Pusha T responded to Drake saying he wore blackface (with oversized red lips) to address the struggles of black actors in the film and TV industry. Pusha, left, used the image of Drake wearing blackface makeup to promote his diss track “The Story of Adidon”.
Drake denied using the blackface photo to promote a clothing brand in a post on Instagram.com.
“This was not from a clothing brand shoot or my music career. This picture is from 2007, a time in my life where I was an actor and I was working on a project that was about young black actors struggling to get roles, being stereotypes and type cast. The photos represented how African Americans were once wrongfully portrayed in entertainment,” he said.
Drake, who is biracial, added: “This was to highlight and raise our frustrations with not always getting a fair chance in the industry and to make a point that the struggle for black actors had not changed much.”
But Pusha doubted Drake’s sincerity during an interview on Big Boy’s Neighborhood at 92.3 radio station in Los Angeles.
“You are silent in all black issues, Drake. You really you are. I don’t hear about anything. You don’t stand for nothing, you don’t say nothing about nothing. You don’t. That’s just what it is and you have all the platform in the world,” Pusha said.
The drama started on Friday when Pusha dropped his track “Infrared” which suggested Drake uses a ghostwriter — the ultimate insult for a MC who pens his own lyrics.
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“You are silent in all black issues, Drake. You really you are. I don’t hear about anything. You don’t stand for nothing, you don’t say nothing about nothing. You don’t. That’s just what it is and you have all the platform in the world,” Pusha said.
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I’m a Drake fan, but where’s the lie?
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yeah…now thinking on it….this is all truth…..welp it was only a matter of time before Drake got called out…sooo…..so exciting to see how this unfolds…..and he better remember that Pusha got bars for days…Drake thought he was safe…..this could be interesting….
*squints*
Pusha is a right nice looking young fella, mmm-hmmm.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68bc52b2a4f54f3dc0d4dea29ec0c12c203c19b65d4d18beb2fbbd13d0be6a55.gif
When rappers create beef with other more popular rappers over lyrics or having a ghost writer seems like too me they are trying to drum up interest in their new project or whatever.
Pusha and Drakes beef goes back years
The photos represented how African Americans were once wrongfully portrayed in entertainment
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African-AMERICAN…But your ass is Canadian sir. And before someone brings their ass to this comment with a geography lesson hollering about well Canada is part of NORTH America…the term African-American refers to blacks…in the USA. So a PRE- FOMF.
He’s got a point. I’m not gonna count Drake out as far as the battle goes. I think he might be cooking up something but it’s been looking bad for a couple days now
Well he cares for certain black strippers…does that count?
a PRE- FOMF. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/615d380290005c75f2b73b61063d678adb00cb683258e4273a2f5c12b8d5723d.gif
Been paying for community college for years smh
Aubrey’s a liar. The clothing company already confirmed it was 100 percent Aubrey’s idea so where is he coming with this struggle story as if he actually had to overcome any obstacles. Please.
Oh really…,well Pusha still needs to sell some music.
14 years. Some shit yet again Aubrey didnt have shit to do with an he inserted himself in. The original beef was with Wayne. And when Drake got signed to Young Money…he inserted himself.
Not enough to buss a seed in them though…
You give no fuks at all…….LOL
Yea. Exactly
No bc then he ends up fukkin their white homegirl and making a baby. One cancels the other out.
I’m a Drake fan, hell I was a wheelchair Jimmy fan. What I see here is called a public humbling. Drake bodied Meek Mill, old girl name Karma rolled his just due back at him via scraggly braids Pusha T. Nikki got humbled via Remy, although Remy is straight gawwww-bahgggeee, but the humbling is necessary. Drake is a rapper, not an activist. He doesn’t speak on black issues cause in his mind, he ain’t black, he’s Canadian. Unaffected and unconcerned. Instead of explaining himself, where is his response?
He’s a lame for that…smh
14 years? Both of them wasting time as they both can do more than just talk about what the other isn’t doing or what issues neither of them are actually supporting.
“I don’t hear about anything. You don’t stand for nothing, you don’t say nothing about nothing. You don’t.”. Pusha has a platform too. Maybe not as big as Drakes, but he does. What does he stand for?
I’m a fan of both, however, I believe that Pusha T is using Drake to create buzz for his new album and he has a very small fan base. Pusha T is trying to ruin Drake’s career as well because he is gotten real personal and dugged into Drakes personal life. I understand the goal of battle rap but Pusha T is starting to turn me off from with these interviews he is doing discussing Drake, like make a diss track and keep it moving smh
I really wanna like Pusha T but I just can’t take a grown man with the same plaits as Blue Ivy seriously #SorryNotSorry
Am I the only one tired of this “beef”?
Same thing I said hell neither one of them are doing and saying as much as they could be
He was doing something this past election where he registered 10000 people to vote. He basically volunteered during Hillary entire election run
nope!
lol
What’s wrong with big boy? Does he have the package??
Drake made it personal by mentioning Pusha’s wife
Pusha T is silent on black issues as well, just like Kanye
He doesn’t speak on black issues cause in his mind, he ain’t black, he’s Canadian.
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With a daddy and an uncle from the deep south of AMERICA it should concern him. If my dad was from say Guyana I would be concerned with Guyanese issues. If my mother was from El Salvador? I would be concerned with El Salvadorian issues.
So he doesnt get a pass from me.
Volunteered for the super predate herself?
Why is Nicki getting involved? I don’t recall Drake saying anything when Remy buried her as$.
THIS IS WHAT NICKI POSTED:
Chun-Li
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Verified account
@NICKIMINAJ
Niggaz gon run that Quentin shit in the fkn ground like Drake don’t write 4 himself & OTHERS! Ya enemies will remix, reinvent & TRY 2make u RELIVE some old shit for YEARS 2 come when they have NOTHING ON U! Knock it off. Challenging the chosen ones only awakens the sleeping giant
10:05 PM – 26 May 2018
ReMember he had Gastric Bypass years ago.
Lol I’m no Hillary fan I was just pointing out that Pusha was working to register people in the inner city to vote. I think he has a organization
Aubrey’s (and Nicki’s) fans always forget how shat start. They have the most to say when it ends though.
Feels like Pusha T is trying to ride Drake’s coattails to get some publicity and boost his own career. Lame.
People should be talking about you & buying your records because your music is good, not because of some artificial beef you’ve strarted with somebody else (who happens to be way more talented than you, BTW).
Would it be better if her was helping Trump? They were both terrible candidates.
Should’ve, could’ve, would’ve… he hates blackness unless he’s profiting from it.
When the last time Pusha took a single mother who works at a hotel shopping spending $10,000 like Drake did even though he wrote it off via his income taxes… ???
Hmmmm
How Drake gonna jump into the middle of a beef between Pusha and Wayne, but only has a ghost writer to back him? It’s not like he has bars of his own. If Aubrey responds, Pusha is gonna end it. There’s something else real juicy coming.
So basically Drake didn’t do shat for that single mother either (with his own money).
Bc Drake does write for himself and others…namely her ass since Safaree left/got fired. I dont think for a minute her album got pushed back. I think it was full of Cardi B beef bullshit, she came out with those whack ass two singles, saw folks were not with no beef mess…and its being re-written. Probably some written..by Drake. She is protecting herself.
I’m assuming your not familiar with Pusha’s catalog. He’s a well respected and talented lyricist in rap. It’s not a popularity contest.
Did you see Chun Li only went Gold the other day? Before, once she dropped music, that shat was Platinum. Remy dealt a major blow to Young Money. Will Pusha T end Young Money?
Find out on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z.
Even if Drake didn’t do anything, the story said he paid out of his own pocket so there is a lie somewhere. He was given the credit, I read the story myself.
I’m sure when Drake dropped his diss song, he never predicted the tables would turn and it wouldn’t be in his favor. Pusha is taking a page from Nas and doing an ether on him by destroying his credibility with facts. You can’t dispute facts, so there is no need battling about it. Leave it alone Drake.
Yes, I know he’s talented. That’s beside the point though.
Fact is, this still feels like some some artificial “beef” he created to create buzz for his new album. And to me, that’s lame.
Baby ended Young Money lol
For the masses, it is indeed a popularity contest. Corporations don’t give money too and back little know individuals
This is an old beef. Drake has been saying slick shat for years for buzz.
Push does A LOT for the Hampton Roads area where he is from. He sponsors a whole kids basketball team through his brother’s church. Push is very extra EXTRA underground far as a rapper. Matter fact Im going on and gonna say he is one of the last underground artist of that whole era who is still pretty much just that. Underground. He has only done 3 albums total as a solo artist. Not for lack of talent. For lack of not giving one fux allocated towards the industry as a whole. We wont ever know the full extent of what he does. he sent two semi-trucks full of water to Flint and tried to keep even that secret. So if he took a mom shopping to Greenbriar Mall in Chesapeake…we will never know.
Boy bye … The day you put that bs on your album cover was thee day you fugged yourself with me… This point the finger BS has gotten old… still don’t fugg with you… And to be honest … I gives not one fawk about this bytch made spat … Miss me.. ?
So a PRE- FOMF.
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Snicker….
Many folks in here are young as hell or loli POP fans.
Cliispe – PushaT are LEGENDS in HIP HOP PERIOD!
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Well damn!!!! This right her says it all!!! LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!
I saw. I was like when was the last time someone went GOLD in this day in time of music even announced? I dont recall the last time I heard hoorayyyy. XYZ went gold. Like really?
I’m strictly talking about a rap battle. It’s clever marketing, but also rap is a competitive sport.
There is no acceptable context for ANYONE, especially a white or biracial person to put on black face make up.
No art, no acting project, no protest, no excuse period. Drake is not confronting his own sense of white entitlement in taking liberty with a blackface project no matter whether he was well intentioned. Unacceptable Drake.
Pusha T is right. But Drake is not black and not obligated to stand up for or address black issues. However, he immerses himself in a black cultural context and earns his living from it, so it is expected for him to demonstrate black cultural loyalty.
I’ve been saying for years, people keep forgetting that Drake is not black nor a black leader. He is a talented biracial Canadian rapper, lyricist, and producer. I’m not disappointed because I see Drake for who he is and I never looked at Drake as black.
He didnt create it. Kanye did with the whole Whitney picture shit. Push I think doesnt care about any of this here shit. Of being an industry darling. He is not see and be seen. He comes to say what he came to say and moves on.
he out here moving in silence doing GOOD?!
*fans self & tries not to develop a cougar crush on this MAN*
LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!!!
I didn’t know he had a baby with Becky!!!!
I STILL listen to “Til The Casket Drops” literally 2x’s a month.
He is “Kinda Like a Big Deal” see what I did there? HA! Non hip hop heads kinda dont get it.
YES!
Its just supposedly allegedly at this point. But yes the alleged baby mama is a former porn star who looks like a shoe horn in the face. Rosee Divine/Sophie something or another.
i’m finna block you…..
…CRINE.
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YAASSSS!!!!! See seasoned folks like us and others who have listened to hip hop since the womb…knows the lyrical skills and backgrounds of rappers like Pusha T….hell is is from my home state of VA!!! I am glad to see Drake on the other end of beef now….he now has real competition…lets see what happens
SIS THIS!!!!
I dont even like Aubrey all that much. As an artist or a person
Especially from someone that big. I don’t like to celebrate people’s misfortune (in real life), but Nicki deserved this for the way she treated Kim. Everyone has a season and Nicki failed to realize that. I don’t think Kim wanted Nicki to kiss her as$, just simply show love, but Nicki was like fawk you bish I’m gonna take your swag and make more money than you in the process.
I have an issue with Drake picking fights with black men especially dark skinned black men. It’s not a racially and socially level playing field. I find his diss records against Meek Mill and against Pusha T to be colorist and racist. I think Drake could take a lesson from Eminem in some respects, he knows where to draw the line in his immersion in hip hop and black cultural context. Yes, Drake has a black parent but Drake’s agency and privilege in the world is very white.
#facts!
you a mess!!! lmao!!!
Same here Hampton Roads by way of NYC/NC
Which these youngins fail to realize.
your last sentence?!!?!?
Have a good evening Ms. Moore
You just said he got a tax write off, so how did he pay out of his own pocket?
I need more on this baby situation… apparently Drake was one of FIVE men who could have sired this child- James Harden, Iman Shumpert, Asap Rocky and Bey’s back up dancer. Paternity test say’s it’s Drakes and he is ashamed that the mother is a whore. Asap told Pusha this tea.
He for sure has a baby with a white whore. She spilled that tea months ago online. He was one of 5 possible fathers.
LOL.
He fetishizes black women from a hypersexualized perspective just like white men do. Of course he likes black strippers but are there any black women in a position of importance or authority in his companies?
Drake’s explanation made no sense at all, he knew he had to say something, but what he said, he should have kept to himself….Not buying it!
VA stand up!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42e766825cc2dd5dbc519049a6665384ef032d605184f428da26f418913d9567.gif
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I dont think any of this has anything to do with money. Otherwise he would have did all this yearrrsss ago.
I see you fancy waving your whig.
My two aunts have lived in VA Chesp/Great Bridge and VA Beach…forever. Military. When I say that for a very long time I would go up (Im in NC) and soon as I got to Emporia…sometimes all you would HEAR…is Missy, Tim, all their acts, Pharrell, Neptunes, NERD all their acts. acts as in anyone who is associated via a song etc. Sometimes it would be HOURS to hear NON-VA music. This is pre-satellite radio being prevelant and pre-iPods etc. JUST the radio. Clipse were part of that.
Drake has a sweatshop of ghostwriters that write for him
Ima have to look this up. smh….
Deep.
OMG yes!!!!! See, folks don’t know about all of that….they don’t understand….that is REAL music…not the bubble gum ass tween shit…smh….hell majority of my family lives in Va beach, Norfolk area…..VA STAND UP! LOL
i had to show the people my Pusha plaits!
*re-affixes whig and sits back down*
I hope it’s not so… ole shoe horn looking bish!!! LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont think you are aware of how any of this even started. All Pusha said was that Drake uses a ghostwriter-which he does. The poor dude can’t even get on himself because of the stigma attached to him for being Drakes ghostwriter.
Drake started this when he mentioned Pusha’s Fiance… That is why Pusha mentioned the baby and blackface. Everything is not about “fanbase”. If it were, I would think Push was like 15 years too late.
well respected yes, but well sought after, nah.
It has to do with creative artistry and Push is 41 years old. His damn album wasnt even half an hour long. He didnt make that album or any song to get rich off of it. He taking care of this beef. And he gonna fade to black and retire as one of the GOATS. Folks are totally missing the point. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f8483a0e91cf560d4c5f62f338b342fefb829f89ebc271191439124e9a77c615.gif
LMAO!!!!!! I cant with you today…..you keep me rolling…make sure your sides are laying flat too… ( peeps in my pocket mirror to make sure my wig have not shifted back like it sometimes does)……
IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s very annoying.. like Ima need some folks to attempt to do so form of research before making excuses for their favorite.
It should concern him, but it doesn’t. He has yet to speak on anything that isn’t making him money.
that part!
Yea, they are obviously young or lost. He is a well respected lyricist.
I don’t think Drake gets a pass. But we need to be realistic in seeing him for who he is and he is not a black man. His father and uncle may be black from the deep south but Drake is a white-priveleged biracial Canadian.
Shittt Im in Va beach now.. Raised in Portsmouth.
Do that ish!!! lol
“Well sought after” is very subjective.
“This was to highlight and raise our frustrations with not always getting a fair chance in the industry and to make a point that the struggle for black actors had not changed much.”
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You don’t need to don the blackface to get your point across…
Forgive me if this comes across racist but Drake is shrewd like a white Jew.
(but don’t YOU start waving your wormy whig… the people DON’T want to see that) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4bf66981bd226f3155956908ddad1e749db4abf3e9bc038eda5a63f0a56d9934.gif
Drake was like…”Noooo, I wasn’t readdyyyyy”
Iman Shumpert
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Petunia/Teyana. Chime on in girl with your big ass mouth trying to make it like you are so damn it happy. Where you at? You chime in on everything else with your irritiating ass.
He pays out of his pocket, he writes it off on his taxes, the money goes back in his pockets.
I know he’s been featured on classic hiphop albums
AND….how many times DRAKE been featured on
60min/CNN special. NEVER NOPE TUHHH
Crack to Hip HOP
https://youtu.be/d2Eh-oUMkYM
Not throwing no bombs tonight sis
P-TOWN better DEW
Probably plenty times and he just doesnt feel the need to tell the world. He does plenty in VA, I know for a fact. I personally hate a mofo that does something for you then broadcasts it to look good.
When you comeback with an explanation and not a verse or some bars.. It might be safe to say he has been ethered.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, LMAO….YEEESSSSS
Plus, he just slaughtered Aubrey lyrically
yaass!!! Va all day…born and raised!!!! OK…let me go…time to clock out and go pick up the kids…lol
You know Pusha T is absolutely correct BUT Drake isn’t the only entertainer that don’t stand for blacks……..AND THEY’RE BLACK THEMSELVES! Don’t just call out Drake, CALL THEM ALL OUT, even these newbies!!!! DONT SAY YOU FOR THE BLACKS BUT WHEN REAL ISSUES COMES UP….THE ONLY BLACK YOU FOR IS FADING INTO THE BLACK OR BETTER YET THE BACK!
sure, here have your wig holder back…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b59c7edcb32d900272c32ef2c037ecbe950f0575cd6816f3ec38ea534186ce60.jpg
He is a Jew
Be safe
see, that’s why i could never wear wigs (or a lot of make-up)…. i’m forgetful. i’d get hot, snatch that wig off, forget about it, and be halfway to my destination before i remembered, smh
Ewwww her font irks my soul
why this look like road kill? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb4264f7d4d7227830d50436ebc02fe52f854ab6633bc6dbb91c04c30c8efcd0.gif
*does the VA shuffle*
#NotAThing
ROFL!
Yuck
Exactly. That’s why I said that.
I see yall came with the receipts today, LOL!!!!
You have to ask yourself that, why you keep buying plastic.
LMAO
LOL!
JFC. I swear, black folk got their priorities all wrong. Drake/PushaT beef? Is that what is paramount now? Unbelievable.
throws a brick and runs
How about some just don’t listen too him, nothing against him… not a young or old issue and I’m a die hard rap fan. I do like him on features just haven’t listened to any of HIS stuff as opposed to him with another rapper.
that’s a lot of “souls” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a5f6182adf7601cc7d6bd7651b790edefe1d56085936c9c74c4b8a2232152d5.gif
Drake is only black when he is saying nigga over 100 times in front of a Jewish church
Chile, we got the time today lol
Apparently for the past 14 years…..which is the dumbest shat.
Drake (ie. Aubrey).
I never saw Drake as anything other than an entertaining approroriation. I always said his hyperarticulateness is indicticative of his white/biracial privilege. Although he is fluent in hip-hop and rap linguists, I don’t think he rhymes or sounds like a black man and that’s why he was embraced by mainstream.
Wow! That’s a lot of managing on her part.
How in the world these dudes never bumped heads?
Like they say, a woman is the best at cheating.
go long Sis! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3720a5fdb8cd20450e755d44c7554792e9b67440be164ee81da5d0acd98e7794.jpg
*sprays lysol and cracks the window*
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oooh-wheee…. they ALL need to get to the nearest clinic! yuck!
I don’t know their issue don’t care to evah….
Lol
Hell yeah…they raw dawging prostitutes like AIDS isn’t real
Pusha what we should be talking about is Daytona and also roasting your ass for using that tasteless pic. Been riding for you since you was on my campus looking for girls before you even had a hit. This beef that you been hinting at for years is pass lame. We all should be talking about your album but alas this is consuming timelines and blogs ? do better sheesh
We all should be talking about your album
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The album is 21 minutes long sis. Aint nothing much to technically talk about lmao. I cannot stand soft ass Aubrey so PLEASE excuse me personally. I am extra gleeful. *hangs head and hides my smile*
No winners. Only losers. Push not all innocent bc that pic wsa some bullshit as well.
Please dont call on her loud ass lol..That’s probably why those divorce rumors started..
I just never liked him. I dont totally agree with concept of appropriation in the realm of music. But I just felt Hip hop doesnt need a singing soft ass rapper. It just doesnt.
Sophia Knows Best is the ig.. or just google “sophie brussaux son drake”
It’s a good 21 mins though ?. That’s better than this beef that’s years old. Save me. I listen to him quicker than Drake. Drake only gets a listen because it’s forced. That pic was the first time I was like nah he crossed the line ? yuh gone too far now bigs ?
Damn all facts. Pusha T was like…..
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I told yall it took me almost a YEAR to eradicate Drake ass off my Lil Wayne station. Do you know how damn HARD it is to eradicate DRAKE? And my kids force Drake on me. damn traitors. they know I HATE his ass. It wont be long now. Push gonna finish this beef on up and then he gonna retire. I promise lol
Sidenote ALL OF YOU BLACK MEN WITH A PLATFORM BIG OR SMALL SHOULD BE SPEAKING UP AGAINST INJUSTICES. CALL EVERYONE OUT EVEN YOURSELF. Dumb ass argument about what the next is not doing and the public don’t see you doing it either. Yes you help 7 cities all day so I’ll give you that but that singling out one when your own boss idolizes white supremacy is beyond unfathomable and down right ridiculous. Pusha I will take you out of time out tomorrow because it’s Friday and I still bump clipse first album on Friday’s when I’m feeling good lol.
Now she got something to say? What happened when Drake made Meek sit down? She is not a real rider. You knock it off Nicki.
I don’t care how young he was at the time he should’ve realize that black face not appropriate. Where was his mom? We know his dad wasn’t there. Those big ass red lips? Drake is just corny.
I agree with this.
And if I make it to tomorrow…”Lord Willin” …I will bump it too *snorts*
You will make it tomorrow ?? don’t talk like that. I should whoop your ass for that tuh. We will bump lord willin togetha on wake and bake status like one big high happy family. Thank you in advance for your cooperation
? late but I got it
Girl you come up with some instant classic slang. PRE-FOMF.. Another one (in my DJ Khaled voice)
HOLLERS
my god, did her vagina get to rest or breathe at all???
Bwahahahahaha! You hurtin’ my sides.
I see what you did there ???
his hyperarticulateness is indicticative of his white/biracial privilege……
Wait, what? I can’t. I really can’t. This is exactly why Cardi B’s inarticulate behind is so popular.
Drake mentioned Pusha’s fiancée but how was she dissed in that one line. All Drake said was he was going to let it ring on him like Virginia Williams. Where is the diss in that? He merely mentioned that woman’s name. He didn’t call her a whore or say he pumped and dumped her. Pusha is mad that people got nosey and googled his fiancée and realized she was his long suffering girlfriend. Home girl was with him for 10+ years before he finally proposed to her. And the real tea is that she had to threaten him to get a ring hence the “let it ring on you” line. Pusha needs to get all the way out of here acting mad that Drake mentioned her name. He wasn’t mad when all those side chicks were clowning her because he was dogging her behind her back. What Jay-Z said about Nas’ baby mama Carmen in a diss track was disrespectful. What Drake said was nothing at all. Plus what Pusha said about 40 was disgusting. He wouldn’t like it if Drake came at his brother Malice’s appearance because Malice looks like he’s suffering from the Eddie Long disease in his most recent video ijs.
Drake’s Northern Maple Syrup azz ain’t know nothing bout this:
https://youtu.be/d6VuYsNpYg8
Pusha T started this battle.
Straight men are some of the biggest bitches ever theyr’e catty petty and don’t know when to shut up neither is worth the bother
Has either one of these niggas said anything about the jury that awarded $4 judgement to a mother who’s son was shot by the police while he was at home in his garage…. police shot thru the garage door hitting him 4 times and killing him. His family was awarded $1 for his death and $1 each for his 3 children.
I’m with you on that. But I’m also kinda jaded, so I’m thinking to myself…. “Drake, with his white mom, (alleged) white baby mama & white baby, along with his Jewish privilege…. and folks are pressed that he’s not advocating for blackness?” Oh, ok. #carryon
I’m sick of all these so called rap fueds!
Yes, Ma’am
I truly believe it’s all marketing. Cause everybody got a issue right before album drops, just like when I get paid. SHITS goes haywire.
See some of these comments saying Drake is not black he’s a Jew. Well he’s a culture vulture in every way then. He used the reggae lingo in his music ? acting all Jamaican with his none-flavour white self. His father never came back in his life until he’s grown. His dad cussing ? out Wendy but never date or married black is always white and Chinese. His dad current wife is Chinese. These black men are the only race that public disgrace the women of their race. Drake I never see you giving Toronto shit yet but you always rep the six lol ?
Drake is a common day opportunist. Nonetheless, Pusha T can miss me with his pseudo social commentary. He needs to take full responsibility for being Kanye’ s puppet. He’s just mad he got caught and called out on his mess without achieving Drake’s level of commercial success.
I don’t see 1 lie lol not a single one
I see your point, however having a “long suffering girlfriend” is a far cry from impregnating a known whore and plus being an industry whore himself. EVERY dude I have conversed w about this beef has said the game changed when the fiance’s full name was said, not even mentioned. And that is disrespectful. Literally every dude. The fact that he said her entire government changed the game. Period.
Furthermore, This is rap beef. Its lyrical. I dont think Push is mad, I think people are just now seeing ish for what it really is. It’s go hard or go home & If Drake’s tea keeps on spilling, he will have to take his ass home.
Beyonce never speaks on black issues either. Someone needs to call her out
Are you sure? They have been taking shots at each other for years.
She’s rich now. Im guessing having that many dudes run through her snatch raw in the same week was an investment?????? And u know they knew about each other..
Are you sure? What about all the rappers that have come forward and said they wrote for Drake? Including the one who posted pictures of his face beaten up for telling the truth about what happens at OVO?)
What about The Weeknd saying he gave Drake at least 6 songs on one of Drake’s early albums?
Both men need to grow up and exist in 2018. Rap feud is so 90s. Grown azz men feuding about gf and side baby… sheesh
I think this is all about promo’ing a CD. One rapper starts a beef with another one and it pumps up the sales. Remember — Kanye is producing and Kanye has a CD coming out too. Why do these men do this? These are grown arse men. Acting like juveniles.
Besides Drake is Canadian. He needs to call himself what he is – Canadian American.
Yes I understand being a long suffering girlfriend and impregnating a known white are different I don’t get the big outrage over saying his fiancée’s name at all if there was nothing disrespectful attached to her name. If my man went that hard because my full name was mentioned I’m side eyeing the heck out of him because it sends the message to me that he’s trying to hide me. I just dont see how that’s taking it too far. The Carmen diss was taking it too far. Dudes are clowning Drake for his baby mama but so many of them have slept and knocked up community snatch but they’re not famous so nobody knows their dirty little secrets. Drake is not the first man ashamed of his baby mama. Stand outside any family court building in any hood and see the Sasquatch looking women coming out pushing strollers and their baby fathers looking embarrassed as heck lol
At the end of the day beef is a part of the rap game. I just want it to stay on wax and not get physical
You are right. Pusha started this round though.
actually, it goes back further with cash money it started with Lil Wayne wearing bathing ape and he took offense to it.
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“Straight” men THESE DAYS…. Cause baby I ain’t NEVA SEEN this much BITCHASSNESS IN MY LIFE.. WHEN THEvyear 2000 hit all healed broke loose and the euros flip flopped!
It’s disgusting. And the sheriff’s department’s response makes it even worse.
You clearly don’t know who Pusha T is to make a statement like that.
It is not “allegedly.” He has been paying her child support for months and even put a nursery in his home for when he is in town.
Exactly.
There is a difference between Drake and Cardi B. Both are accepted by the mainstream for different reasons especially with Drake being a man and Cardi a woman.
Drake is a version of the great white hope where white people secretly and not so secretly want white men or whiter men to dominate hip hop.
Whereas, Cardi is the ultimate example of exploiting the afro latin broken or heavily accented English dizzy sexpot stereotype. Most important to note is that Cardi is NOT white at all. Drake is. She has no white agency or entitlement. Drake does.
Cardi is a modern hood version of Charo and an extreme female rapper version of the way actress Rosie Perez was stereotyped when she first became famous.
His “singing soft ass” and being half white and Jewish is what makes him less threatening and have mainstream appeal.
You’re the same fool that was jealous of their co-worker for pushing a BMW.
You are too old to not know who Pusha T is . Ole hating ass trash bag self.
I think they all ghostwrite for each other at this point. I am tired of that. As a true hip hop fan that is my biggest complaint right now. It’s prevalent now. Stop shaming each other behind it.
I really hope Drake and all black people are knowledgeable enough to know that it doesn’t matter what you’re mixed with, you’re still black to white people.
whaaaaaaaaaatever.
Push started it with Lil’ Wayne and then with Drake simply because Drake and Wayne are squad.
I love this!!
I loved Clipse so much!!!!
Truth need no support!#DoBetterDrake??
Not true. White people DO selectively accept biracial and multiracial people as white. This is what black people fail to understand.
Pusha T is calling Drake out about not supporting black issues, but his boss says slavery was a choice, and decided to exploit Whitney Houston’s drug problems on his album cover. Ok.
Ed Lover called it on TMZ Show, this is all a publicity stunt to sell music, appeal to social media, grab headlines!
Applause to Pusha for deflecting the low-life choice of using Whitney’s bathroom pic, regardless of who bought or sold the photo! It was on his album [sic]!
Both men are WAY TOO OLD FOR A HIP HOP BEEF! It’s entertaining for many, but it’s not going to do anything for those living and dying in the hood!
Just bring good music (HIP HOP), Pusha, Kanye, Drake…regardless who writes it!
Lastly, Drake IS BLACK and regardless if he has enough receipts, gave away enough money, stood up for BLM or Kolin, or Marched on Selma!
He’s a highly successful mainstream biracial, black rapper from Canada, and his baby’s momma, child, or blackness is his business!
In his defense…not that really is any, bc you told not one lie…
Drake’s boss is no better. Mr. Long Haired Thick Redbone, dark skinned women suck, All Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter doesn’t apply to me Wayne Carter.
IJS. They pretty much even far as their bosses go. Both are self loathing ass negroes *shrug*
You ain’t said one lie either. But I forget about Wayne.
That is so not true. Who do you think came up with the one drop rule. Unfortunately a large number of our own are the ones color struck. White people could care less. I’ve never heard the KKK ask a black person what they’re mixed with before hanging them. I’ve seen so many commercials and tv shows where a child or adult is supposed to be mixed and they look 100% black. And it’s because to most white people they don’t see the difference. It doesn’t matter to them. White people aren’t giving black people special privileges because they’re mixed. I think that’s what a lot of black people fail to understand.
I don’t. He on my top 10 list dead or alive. Right up there with Push. Wayne the youngest one up there too. Wayne is a lyrical beast in his own right. When he is sober. But this is what I mean when I say I don’t really hold folks personal views against them. Truth be told, not even Kanye too much. I’m just here for the music. But in Drake’s case I will admit I never liked him. And I didn’t appreciate how he did Meek. Over a woman. Really sir? He deserves this kinda.
Along with most of our black celebrities! They all give or do something, give out turkeys in the hood, surprise wait-staff with big tips, write a relief check, become a spokesperson for one of the big NGOs!
Many visit black high schools, give out some scholarships, computers, etc., but none that I know of have done what they have the potential and vast resources to do and make a difference!
Jamie Foxx said so, a few years ago, in reference to Harry Belafonte and his era of black celebs with way less resources!
It’s gonna take ALL OF US to change our condition!
Pusha did ether Drake, but this is all still fake to sell his music! Him using that Whitney photo, cancelled him, IMO, talking about character, whew!
Right! I’m Canadian and has never once referred go myself as African American.
Wayne is probably one of the best lyricists out there, in the sense that he verses are smart. I think he’s super intelligent. I don’t listen to a lot of rap, but I do enjoy his music when I hear it on the radio. When I say I forget about him, he’s been keeping a low profile.
And I really appreciated the time before social media when we didn’t really know much about the people who entertained us. Ignorance was bliss.
I think Drake knows he’s Black! He’s no different than most celebrities, they do feel entitled, privileged because they are in the sense of people waiting on them, catering, pandering, following!
Even with his success, he’s seen it (assuming), if Obama was degraded and experienced biases, I’m sure this biracial guy has too! If not, he WILL!
Wrong…corporations don’t give money to people not willing to bend to their will.
Lmao
There are a lot of light skin biracial people who don’t rise to the top!
It was his timing, promotion, management, bargaining, diverse fanbase, (lot in life) just like most successful rappers or entertainers!
Being light comes with its privileges, like IG models, former adult dancers or like many of these black celebs (from the darkest to the lightest) decide who to mate up with!
I hope he in extensive rehab. As to Why he’s been out of sight. Wayne is not WELL. At all. His lean habit it killing him. When I saw his hair is now falling out few months ago, I burst out into prayer. God bless him
Absolutely NOT!
Too much money involved from his label, Apple, Tour Company, handlers, merchandise, etc.
Drake and Nicki are brands and make other people a lot of money!
Pusha and Remy don’t, ether or not, regardless of their talent!
I completely believe Drake identifies as a black man. His entire crew he runs with are black guys. But I do agree, he does feel entitled, is really feeling himself and thought he was untouchable, to the point he totally underestimated Pusha. But I bet he woke now.
And, give the guy some credit, his music did chart well, and I for one, loved, loved his Rihanna collabos!
It was like smooth jazz (which purists hated), smooth hip hop, soft, yep!
Thank you, it’s kinda a shame how many people fell for this, Ed Lover called them out on TMZ, fortunately!
With this beef, we look dumb AF!
What the hell are you talking about? There is no right or wrong answer it’s my opinion. And I was really talking referring to the word “popularity” in the context of how the person I replied to use it.
Well, that wasn’t the case for Barack Obama!
Your opinions can be wrong.
I agree! Look at Valerie Jarrett, the focus of Roseanne’s racist comment!
Your first black president, he didn’t get a play in congress or with many people because he was biracial!
Oh he that dude. To have a song on the Billboard charts every week for EIGHT years straight??? Folks love him. He has MAD talent. Never would say different
Thank you, it became all about his light skin and blackness!
El DeBarge was that dude, too, but…well, we know what side-tracked his career!
Do you know who Pee Wee Kirkland is? The Destroyer Hammond? Earl “The Goat” Manigault? They were famous streetball legends. And they were all happy to just be playing bball…in it purest form. Not in it for money. In it For the feel. The bragging rights. For the LOVE.
That’s what I liken the Remy’s and Pusha’s to. Someone has to be a street rapper. Someone has to represent all the underground rappers. Someone. Not everyone in to sell records or all that. They just love the art
You know they say Tupac really kinda invented a lot of shit that happened to him. That he was always literally playing Bishop for the rest of his life. That’s how I feel about Drake. That he inserts himself in bullshit bc he is still constantly playing Wheelchair Jimmy. I think he lives in his mind. It’s also why I don’t trust your street cred or none of it if your ass started out as an actor. It’s kinda cheesy? Ijs.
Meanwhile he and Kanye have no problem using a pic from a low point in WH’s, one of the greatest black entertainers (RIP) of our time, as an album cover despite her family’s protest. Distraction maybe? Acuse one black person for not addressing black issues while exploiting the past mistakes of a dead black woman to sell music?. Im trying to figure out the difference here.
My guess it has something to do with Pusha T past and his regrets.
#carryon
Grabs my bottle….
I really do think that pic has something to do with both of theirs past…kayne most recent with whatever the fugg he was on or should have been on. I am not saying the pic was justified. Its art and its subjective. My two cents
“You diss me and you’ll never get a reply for it”
-Drake
He should have just stuck to it. ?????
And Push was an admitted drug dealer. You on to something!
Listen. I’m here for this theory
Is that Toya?
Drakes baby mother is ugly af ? the audacity.
It probably wouldve had more of an impact if he wouldve just used his own personal pictures then. Not Whitney’s past. Its just makes him look like a hypocrite. Theres a lack of respect for Whitney. Its not something she wouldve wanted the world to see depsite how the pic originated. It just seems like the rules change to suit certain folks when we want it to. He’s no better.
Now Nicki knows she doesn’t want smoke… bih still hasn’t responded to those 7 minutes of shether when remy went in?
You know we deep thinkers. Lissen Linda
Did you see the CNN link I posted earlier….how he sold crack to moms who’s kid were hungry. That’s why No Malice formerly known as Malice got out the game. He said he was cheating on the road, like fish need water. well he didn’t say that…but he love the LORDT now. Amen
It would have made sense, but we would not be here talking about it.
Night Night
I still love them. Drake can’t handle that smoke if Pusher bring out his brother No Malice for a reunion. Lol. #Memories
AND MEEK STARTED THE OTHER ONE, GETTING ROYALLY BODIED IN THE PROCESS………JENNY JONES!!!!
Drake has a white mother. A white grandmother he adores and his upbringing was dominated with white people around him with his dad hardly being present in his early year. His best friend is white. SOOOOOOO….
I KNEW he was going to knock-up some white, trashy ass piece of bologna!!!
Still hurts tho lol
I can’t help but to put most the blame for this situation on Kanye. B/c he’s the one who changed the original album cover at the very last minute even when Push originally said no he let Kanye talk him into it,and that’s where he comes into fault b/c he should been more aggressive in the matter. No matter Kanye being his boss. Some time you have to stand your ground when wrong is wrong and he didn’t do that.
Man! When she got the news ?was this her reaction ????????
YES, they DO.
That selective acceptance of biracial sand multiracials as white angers black people and threatens the status quo of white supremacy.
There are many biracial and multiracial people accepted as white or white enough to be accepted as white and I’m not only talking about color.
The one drop rule was created by slavemasters for the purpose of economic disenfranchisement of biracial and multiracial children. Anyone who identifies themselves in accordance to a slavemasters doctrine is still enslaved.
Slavemasters didn’t care one bit about black unity and everyone with black blood being one people. They knew daggone well that biracial and multiracial people were not black but created the one drop rule solely for the economic purpose of not giving biracial and multiracial children their right to inheritance and to lessen sharing and competition for economic power.
The one drop rule is not scientific, genetic, or racial fact.
So I see people saying he does nothing for the black communities or the culture……..so was God’s Plan video a whole lie??????? I’m confused or is it that Pusha T is not satisfied on how much Drake addresses black issues….and who is the black issue Po-Po???Pusha T???
White people were angry that Obama refuses to identify as biracial and instead elects to identify as African American. Most white people voted for Obama because he is biracial raised by his white mother and family which made him palatable. White people were disappointed and resentful that Obama identifies solely as black and married black and they acted out through racism instead of accepting that’s his choice. If Obama identified as biracial and publicly identified also with the white family who raised him, there would have been far less criticism. On every message board, white people complained and asserted “but he is white” and complained that he only identified as black (which is his choice to do so].
Yes it absolutely was, even though he is dark skinned biracial person. Most of his life with his family he was primarily accepted as white. He elected as an adult to identify solely as black.
Also, there is a contradiction in black nationalist theory on biracial and multiracial people. On one hand blacks say mixed people are what the mother is, but then blacks selectively at their whim exclude who they want from that rule to include biracials and multiracials with white mothers that black people want to consider black.
If biracials and multiracials are what the mother is, then Halle Berry and Obama are white but black people want them as black. Also, I don’t think Halle Berry really thinks of herself as black and only called herself black for black movie opportunities which jump started her career. It is also very likely that Obama would have continued to identify as biracial if the black vote did not require he identify as black. It’s all politics and economics.
This always exposes contradictions: is Slash from Guns n Roses black? Black people consider Slash white and do not ever claim him as black or even biracial when in fact Slash’s mother is a black skinned black woman.
But black people consider Lenny Kravitz black and he is the same racial make up as Slash.
Black people assert the one drop rule to suit their selective consideration of and who they want to claim as black and therefore it is not fact, it is theory.
Color is not the only determining factor of “who rises to the top”. And white is not the top, it’s a racial construct and group that many biracials and multiracials even without “fair skin” or “light skin” are accepted into as white. This angers black people and frightens white people because it goes against status quo.
Not all people with black blood or even brown skin are marginalized and oppressed equally and the same. This is what black people need to understand.
There are many white people with African phenotypes and attributes like tightly coiled hair texture, darker skin, broader features and they still are considered white even though they look more black than some black people.
Race is not simply black and white. Also, not all people with black blood are subject to police brutality or face discrimination as black people wish for them to face to prove their choice to embrace the slavemasters created one drop rule theory.
Black folks want and expect everyone with a drop of black blood to stand with them on the black margin and join the black fight and then get angry and disappointed when that doesn’t happen. Not all people with black blood are black and not everyone with black blood feels an alliance or kinship or responsibility to black struggle.
He did. But Drake should know better. Drake would come off so strong if he came back with an anti-diss record talking about how he doesn’t attack his black brothers or his elder brothers. That would have made Drake look wise.
Valerie Jarrett is not black and black identity is not defined by a racist comment. Valerie Jarrett may CHOOSE to personally identify as black but she is not.
Do you feel validated by thinking of Valerie Jarrett as black?
How would you feel if one year at your school all black scholarship funds were awarded to only biracial and multiracial people? Would you feel ok with that given everybody with black blood is black? Did you know there are white people who find out they have one black ancestor and according to the one drop rule belief, they can and do benefit from affirmative action? But that’s ok being that everyone with one drop of black blood is black?
So, an Italian American with olive skin and tight curly hair called the N word by another white driver in a traffic jam is black? You would consider a white Italian American person black because someone called them N word? Race is not defined by ignorant commentary of white people (nor ignorant black people for that matter).
Oh, he’s biracial now, not black? He didn’t get play in a staunchly republican congress because he’s a staunch liberal. If Obama was a biracial or black conservative with similar ideals as a republican congress he would have not faced the same resistance. Now we are talking about political affiliation and difference which is not always determined by race.
Black issue Po-Po????
Drake knows he is biracial and surrounds himself with mostly dark skinned black guys not because he knows he’s black, he does so because he is not socially, racially, economically threatened by black men in his circle. Drake is very very aware he is biracial and privileged.
Exactly!
this is the most boring sh!t ever. f*ck pusha t and kanye.
It is a complex topic. I understand what you say. But white people do sometimes give special privilèges to ligher skinned black people, that is the problem with colorism. I’ve seen with my own eyes how more at ease non-black people are around me than a darker skinned black person. Does that mean I don’t experience their bullshit racism? Nope! I experience it all the time both inside and outside of the USA because I appear black. But there is and has always been a caste system in the USA with the darker you are being on the bottom. I am more intemidating to non-blacks than my near white looking cousin, for example.
As for biracial people with one black parent; they are biracial, even if they look mostly, or all black. No amount of white ignorance changes that, and using the KKK as a example is very poor. They are extremists; they don’t even like Japanese people. Now while that is true, bi-racial people who appear black are still not advised to act differently around the police. Times are changing, but it is still a complex topic indeed.
I remember the Italian mathmatician (actually from Italy, not the Americans who say they are Italian) was on a plane flying across America. He was working some équations on board the flight, for work of course, and some blond bimbo reported him to the flight staff, saying that he was a terrorist because he was writing in a language she didn’t understand (calculus, probably). Her ignorance of the man’s background, based on look and action didn’t make him Middle Eastern. It didn’t make him North African. He was still a white Italian man.
We should stop letting ignorant racists define our identities. They are clearly in no position to do so.
Oh, and the one drop rule is bullshit.
You said: They knew daggone well that biracial and multiracial people were not black
This is Truth. They knew SO well, that some other slave holding societies outside of the USA had biracial communties ON PAR with white communities, while people with two black parents stayed at the bottom. Early Haiti is an example. I think it was Louis 14 (with his evil ass) instituted the black codes, because biracial communities where getting richer and more educated than the white French. They were allowed property and were able to transfer weath to their mixed race offspring. They had the finest clothes and houses, ect. They were Not Black.
That is only one example.
Isn’t Drake also Canadian?
From my experience, Canadian black people and mixed race people with a black parent don’t think along the same lines as black folks in the USA, when it comes to blackness and identity. There are fewer of them in Canada; and while racism is still a problem in Canada, certain social policies make blackness less of a scar/shame than historically in the USA (though they had slavery and their treatment of First Nations people is horrific). That is my understanding but some black Canadian can help clear it up. I’ve just met black Canadians who seem almost as clueless about race as white people, lol.
Drake is also a celebrity, so he knows and has been trained to use his various identities for his benefit.
It hurts like hell lol. Like hE couldn’t get a respectable whyte gul pregnant? He had to knock up one who’s vagina has been with every negro in the music and sports industry??!?!
Whew! these comments…people are writing thesis statements and theories.. Alrighty then!…this Pusha T/Drake thing has brought the Scholars out!
So what? What has Pusha T said about black issues?
And? I’m not sure I ever heard him say he wasn’t black
OMG, you too? When Canadians, Brazilians and Mexicans get started on the whole *I’m American too*, I just back away slowly. The people that I’ve interacted with seem to think that I wanted to gangster the term *American* to feel superior, but it is only because that is what most of the world calls people from the USA, and I’m not calling myself United-States-ian.
He’s done . Save your hope
LMAO
I always write long comments, but I’ve been trying to improve, lol!
I’ve already written a dissertation, you’d think I’d get tired of writing.
THIS! Not wishing death upon him, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it hit the headlines. I want him to get better
LOL…I’m here for ALL of it…I just need to go get this cup of coffee and block off some Reading time, hahahahahaha
*off
Shoot, sometimes I’ll start typing, then delete, like…nobody wants to read all that, lol
LOL!!
Wayne was sitting courtside at the Warriors vs. Rockets game 7. I would’ve posted the pics if I knew you cared.
Drake does not have a baby. It’s a PR stunt.
I believe whoever said it was promo for a t-shirt line.
He also has epilepsy so maybe that’s also why he’s become a recluse. ?Sometimes when you think you’re invincible then you get sick, it messes with your head. Of course drinking lean doesn’t help any of it.
Pusha T is good and all, but Drake may serve well just to ride this one out and let him keep talking. It does him no good to keep responding to this, he’d just be helping him keep getting publicity and sell a few records.
Right?! She did those couple times in 2016?????
http://blackyouthproject.com/beyonce-posts-powerful-statement-in-support-of-black-lives/
When she invited the mothers of a few black men killed by police join her on the red carpet ?????
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/arts/music/beyonce-vma-black-lives-matter.html
In 2017 when she made a video
https://www.refinery29.com/2017/09/171990/beyonce-racism-climate-change-video
And surprised Colin Kapernick
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/beyonc-surprises-colin-kaepernick-present-si-muhammad-ali-legacy-award-n826986
Other than that, I could find nothing ????? Nothing more recent at least.
sound like barry Obama upbringing thing is he left that asian/white woman for Michelle cause blacks like to see black men with black women if they are going to vote
But the photographer himself said it.
Right?!
#facts. He’s also making moves behind the scenes writing jingles for McDonald’s (I’m Lovin’ it, 2003) and who knows who he’s ghost writing for.
But he’s not little known. He’s a rap genius. He won a Grammy in 2003 and 2013.
Akon and Rihanna, are examples of Black Artist who have really made a real impact in peoples lives with their Charitable Foundations. Life altering, life changing impact.
I seen folks who canceled Kanye over wearing the MAGA hat that still understood what he meant about the slavery statement. While he wasn’t saying anything deep… his statement wasn’t suppose to taken as simple as slavery is a choice lol
I don’t care about all the popularity contest folks care about… don’t care about how or what these people do in their personal life. I’m only speaking on the beef lol. Pusha T really hurt Drake feelings lol. Drake thought he was going to clown pusha by dropping the diss and a pic of an invoice lol
I recall reading a few things over the years. My husband and I read an article last year that he set up a college fund for a little black kid who made a video speaking out against guns violence. I don’t know if there is other stuff out there but I’ve seen a few things…more than I can say that I’ve seen of Drake but I’m just one person.
What about Chance the Rapper?
Regardless of how he meant it, the words were offensive. I’m just saying people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Really????
Paula Patton’s son Julian is mixed with black and Maceo Martinez is mixed with black, and white people still see them as black? No.
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But the beef goes back to 2012????? He resurrected it though.
Not true, you say????
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Don’t know why they needed to resurrect a beef from 2011-2012 though.
Exactly, like Roseanne calling Valerie Jarrett an ape doesn’t make Valerie Jarrett black.
I really wish we as black people would stop referencing the one drop rule and come up with our rules.
Because the one drop rule was created by slavemasters for economic reasons.
If biracial and multiracial offspring during slavery had their white blood legally recognized then they would have economic rights and entitlements. So the slavemasters said one drop of black blood made someone black.
I will never reference that slavemaster rule to define anyone.
Intentions are huge…. That is what’s wrong with folks. We want everything to look and sound good. We don’t care about what it is really is. How can I sit and be upset over something that I understand wasn’t worded correctly… when I know what was really meant. Doesn’t make sense. Pusha T ain’t in a glass house lol and should be open to state facts regardless of who said or did what. Drake doesn’t openly address “black” issues. It’s a fact! period!
For reals!
Exactly why Haiti could have been a powerhouse independent self sustaining black nation and society but biracial and multiracial supremacy and entitlement took over where the white attempted enslavers and colonizers were defeated. Biracial and multiracial people are not black, they can ELECT to identify as black, but they are not. Fair and light skinned Creole privilege is very very real.
I’m more of a fact person and I don’t assume to know anyone’s intention unless they explicitly state it. Taken in context in the moment Kanye said it in a televised interview – it was what it was. The other problem with Pusha T is that he allowed Kanye to exploit Whitney Houston, who isn’t even here to defend herself. That’s not cool on any level.
And I don’t care that Drake doesn’t take up black causes. He’s an entertainer and he has a choice. He’s never claimed to be “woke.” A lot of folks who claim to be really aren’t.
Thank you.
Slash from Guns n Roses with his mother.
And black people never claim Slash as black or even biracial and black people don’t protest that he doesn’t identify as black. He never denies that his mother is black but he is racially ambiguous.
Why don’t black people consider Slash black, because he’s a rock musician? Music doesn’t determine race.
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No. They are seen as privileged. Black people are seen as secondary to them. Who do you see representing blacks in TV commercials now?
Damn right.. geeked af.
Well if you was following what he actually/factually said then you couldn’t have just stopped at “that sounds like a choice” lol you would have also had to have heard him say we live in mental prison… The word “prison” takes away the whole free choice part. So he basically said that when you hear something lasted for 400 years it sounds like a choice, but they folks be trapped mentally…. so it was deeper than physical bondage. But that’s nothing new… plenty of folks have said that before. it is understood.
I can’t speak on the Whitney bathroom. I personally do not agree with that. In a sad way it keeps her alive though. unfortunately, the picture reminds me of how folks thought about her when she was alive. Nobody want to love you while you here, but when you gone… this picture is disrespectful.
I agree about the Drake part too. I really don’t really look to him for that. But I think for folks to see him with the black face and say it was to bring some type of awareness of how black folks have been seen…. then you on a big platform to really reach people and we get nothing…. Pusha statement is to say the excuse wasn’t good enough lol
Also, black people have been misguided to believe every black person on earth was enslaved during slavery and that all black people descend from slaves. Not true.
Black Haitian immigrants actually came through Ellis Island as early as 1910 just like irish and italian immigrants.
When early Black caribbean immigrants from Haiti arrived in america, they were bilingual, more educated, articulate, classed, and cultured than white immigrants.
So white people kept them down, because they were superior to whites. To this day, whites are threatened by black skinned people superior to them intellectually.
I totally got what Kanye was saying. First and foremost actual slavery didn’t last 400 years. I knew he was talking more about the bondage black folk choose to live in now. But to use “slavery” and “choice” in the same sentence was in really poor taste. And guess what? Most people stopped listening after that. Along with all of his other simp antics lately, that was just too much, and the last straw.
And the bathroom picture keeps crack head Whitney alive yes. But she was an amazing talent and she has a huge catalog of music and there were other pictures that he could have used. Kanye is about tearing down, not building up. He was wrong and Pusha T was complicit.
Oh I do give him credit. He can definitely rhyme and his music is captivating. His collab with Weezy and Santigold is still a favorite song of mine. Werk with Rihanna was brilliant.
As we use to say in the old days, True dat.
Of all the women Drake could have made a baby with, he chose a whore to procreate with. Watch these silly black women still support him. Black women are weak at times when it comes to black men. All the extra support yet the favor is never returned.
To be honest though I never hear any of young money Nicki, Drake or Wayne speak on black issues. Yet people stay hating on Beyonce and Jay Z but atleast they speak on black issues.
Drake was real real confident in his privilege but like someone said on this thread, he got humbled. An articulate dark skinned elder black man put it to him eloquently and Drake is dumbfounded.
Linguistically, Meek was no match for Drake. Pusha T, he’s no Meek Mill.
It’s not about white ppl, they are not the end all be all, or who decides to label or identify ppl.
YASSSSSSSS come thru with the statements and hypothesis and facts …..yaaaassssss GUEST
mixed biracial kids
Complete bs but we love hanging onto slavery concepts.
Times change, albeit slowly. My white-skinned grandmother has identified as black her entire life, because of the one drop rule. But she is very old, and you will never get her to claim anything but black.
If she was born in 2018, she would not be categorized as black.
When I was younger, I embraced the One Drop Rule, as a default like most black Americans. My creole friend used to call herself “mixed” and it annoyed me, because I was brainwashed. I thought she was not claiming black because of self hate and trying to distance herself from people that looked like me.
Then I grew up. My friend was right all along.
She wasn’t distancing herself from blackness, she was staying in her lane.
Her parents taught her that she was multiracial, as they were. They taught her that she would experience a privilege that dark skinned black people cannot access. But they also taught her that in America, many people (like racist police) will consider her black based on some phenotypes , so be aware.
I think the ignorance comes from misrepresentation of history. Few history books, movies, documentaries, etc. show black people arriving in America of their own free will prior to 1950. So, many Americans think that we are all descendants of American slaves.
It is easy for the text book makers to get away with that, because was so few black immigrants because the USA government had an immigrant quota of ZERO from the continents of Africa and Asia until the Civil Rights Act.
…but clearly, some black people from Haiti and Guadeloupe for example, were able to slip through, but history tries to erase them.
So…I don’t know much about this story, but TMZ said that Drake’s alleged baby mama is French and was trying to use him to get into the USA. But, Drake is Canadian, so why doesn’t she take her self to Canada?
Where is ICE and INS when you need them??
pusha t was talking about drake being Silent On All Black Issues’. the God’s plan video where he gave out money was just to promote HIS video.
It’s true. He’s never spoken on anything
Her sharing the red carpet with people who’s family got killed is doing something? I could of stood next to the family as well don’t mean nothing but ok
I’m confused… Pusha is calling out Drake but I have never heard him speak on black issues…. just rap about dealing drugs to the community… I have always respected Pusha as a lyricist but this new gimmicky beef has got to stop.
I am also tired of people telling people what they can identify as. Anyone who is a person of color can identify how they choose. It’s funny how people don’t call Bob Marley biracial. Because someone is fairer skin doesn’t make them less black. In fact they may have more African dna that those with darker skin. I am a brown complexion yet my mother who is fair skin has more African dna whole I have more European. People of color still fight battles…. he’s not blonde hair and blue eyed…
Where has pusha advocated for us? He raps about dealing drugs and is Kanye’s homie
That’s called colorism… how can anyone tell another person who they can identify with? All people of color face struggles… some fair skin people have it just as hard or harder than brown skin. There are tribes in Africa that have fairer skin. Bob Marley is never seen as biracial
It’s not just black people it’s the actual person… they identify with who they feel comfortable with
Truth!
Or maybe he runs with them because their his friends and he identifies with them… just as slash runs with white boys and bob Marley ran with Brown skin people
Right and where has he advocated for black people? All he has done was glamorize drug dealing
But Nicki does write… she even wrote a song for Coonye new album
Pharrell ghost writes for half the industry who cares at this point
So fake he is trying to use gimmicks for publicity
Canadian people of color fave racism and hardhips as well … matter fact people of color all over the world do
Same here. White skinned grandfather when he was a young man in the army the military kept classifying him as white and he refused to pass and insisted to be with the black soldiers. You are right, in 2018 our grandparents would not be categorized as black.
My black scholarship reference upthread really drives our points home. In the 90’s, academia, corporate america, and media did try the trend of exclusively using biracial and multiracial people to represent black. Then black people realized biracial and multiracial people were not black when they were used to replace and exclude blacks. I do think biracial and multiracial people face forms of discrimination but it is not the same forms of discrimination faced by black people.
@Cannelle wrote:
I think the ignorance comes from misrepresentation of history. Few history books, movies, documentaries, etc. show black people arriving in America of their own free will prior to 1950. So, many Americans think that we are all descendants of American slaves.
It is easy for the text book makers to get away with that, because was so few black immigrants because the USA government had an immigrant quota of ZERO from the continents of Africa and Asia until the Civil Rights Act.
…but clearly, some black people from Haiti and Guadeloupe for example, were able to slip through, but history tries to erase them.
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ALL OF THIS. TRUTH. I feel relieved there are some of us who know this truth because white people rewrite and erase anything black that threatens their white supremacist status quo.
Exactly.
Bob Marley is indeed factually biracial yet not recognized as biracial. I think that also has to do with ignorance about Jamaican race and color diversity. People generally view Jamaica as an all black island with no mixed population. Because that is what’s sold through white tourism media. But Jamaica has a very real mixed history.
Same experience here.
In some instances that is true, but black folks DO refuse to see Slash as black even though his mother is the same color as Lenny Kravitz’s mother.
Dave Chapelle’s race teams game show skit really articulates this. Black people just don’t want Slash on the black team, even after they know his mother is dark skinned black woman. Black people don’t fight and protest his not identifying as black because they just “don’t want him at the cookout.”
Unfortunately, many black people do consider non genetic factors such as taste in music and style of clothing as definers of blackness.
Who you “run with” does not supersede facts.
This is the point I’m making. Black people pick and choose based on whimsical factors and preferences who the one drop rule applies and enforce the one drop rule inconsistently and discriminately.
I do remember black people really wanting Tiger Woods on the black team and being livid he identified as mixed not black. Because black folks wanted his early history making success to be a credit to the black race. That’s is superficial one drop rule acceptance, conditional one drop rule acceptance, and selectively using mixed people if it’s felt they benefit or are a credit to the black race.
Slash just plays guitar in one of the greatest rock bands of all time, so he’s not seen as valuable to the black race or as a credit to the black race so he is not wanted on the black team.
Another perplexing thing about the “who you run with” theory, there are black people who will accept a “hip hop urban identified white person who only runs with black people” as black over actual biracial, multiracial, and two black parents black people who don’t run with black people or fit black stereotypes.
A lot of black folks are confusing.
*warning, rant ahead*
While they will try to be selective with who is black, they will also try claim everyone in the world as black. I’ve been told by white people that their black co-workers will insist that the white person is black, simply because they have curly hair or an ass that is not a pancake.
Some black people will use blackness as an insult and not even realize it. They will “mark” someone white or pale as black when they are trying to bring them down to their perceived level.
How many times have I heard a black American person argue that all Italians and Spanish
people are black? The ones that look like me are black, but majority citizens in those countries are WHITE, I don’t care how many moors invaded 1000 years ago (and not all moors were black, but that is another story). I live next door to those countries and what I mostly see are white people. Most importantly, those white people do not view themselves as black, they do not identify with us, and many of them racist AF. So telling them that they are black has zero impact on their thinking.
Just another case of black people claiming everyone, then complaining when they are erased.
I live in Europe now, the origin of white supremacy. I’m learning more and more about the history they’ve try to erase or minimize. The devilment that Europeans kept up in Africa is so astonishing, no wonder their descendants try to hide it now.
Then they deflect about how racist America is. Who do they think racist Americans got the concepts from?
Bob Marley, if still alive, would be well over 70 years old. Of course he was considered black back then. Times change, thankfully.
How many times have I heard a black American person argue that all Italians and Spanish people are black? The ones that look like me are black, but majority citizens in those countries are WHITE, I don’t care how many moors invaded 1000 years ago (and not all moors were black, but that is another story). I live next door to those countries and what I mostly see are white people. Most importantly, those white people do not view themselves as black, they do not identify with us, and many of them racist AF. So telling them that they are black has zero impact on their thinking.
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Exactly.
The African American enforcing of the one drop rule is inconsistent, discriminate, and often based on superficial and stereotypical factors. The way one speaks, dresses, articulates, votes, eats are not scientific, genetic, or factual definers of who is black and who is not. African Americans will write off black people with two black parents as “talking, dressing, acting white”.
Even Italians and Greeks that do look even more black than some mixed and full black people, DO not think of themselves as black at all. Therefore they consider their “nappy” hair and dark skin to be inherent and natural white traits! Oh, this can get real complex.
For the Italians and Greeks, people with two white parents can look a variety of ways like people with two black parents. And perhaps they have black African descent from a long time ago and those phenotypes came through with them. But…black ancestry does not necessarily make them black. As you say, there are many factors.
If he is indeed ghostwriting for others then isn’t it hypocritical for him to come at Drake? Ijs
Well, if you say so…most of us are mixed, not a 100% of any one thing! I don’t need to feel validated, she is what she is, her genetics!
“Valerie was born in Shiraz, Iran, to American parents, James E. Bowman (James Edward Bowman), a physician, and Barbara (Taylor) Bowman, an early childhood education expert/advocate, author, and professor.
Her father ran a children’s hospital in Iran at the time of her birth. Her mother was among the four founders of the Erikson Institute for child development. Valerie was mostly raised in the U.S., in Chicago. She has a daughter with her former husband, late medical professional William Jarrett.
Valerie’s parents were/are both black, as were all her grandparents.
A DNA test taken by the show Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. (2014) stated that Valerie’s genetic ancestry is:
*49% European
——–approx. *28% Irish and Scottish
——–*16% Scandinavia
——–*3% Western Europe
——–*2% Ashkenazi Jewish
*46% Sub-Saharan African
——–*24% Nigeria
——–*8% Congo
——–*6% Ivory Coast and Ghana
——–*5% Senegal
——–*2% Southeastern Bantu
——–*1% Benin and Togo
*5% Native American”
I Agee on some points! Skin hue doesn’t necessarily dictate how a person chooses to self-identify! I believe more in “tribes” than race or ethnicity because the metrics are too subjective and imposed!
I expect nothing, just remain hopeful people can see who and what really runs this world or determines the fate of the masses!
AND HIS ONLY PURPOSE FOR DROPPING GODS PLAN AND GIVING AWAY ALL THAT MONEY WAS TO DISTRACT US FROM THE SOPHIE BRUSS HEADLINE THAT WAS LEAKED AT THE TIME. THAT’S WHY ALOT OF FOLKS NOW ARE JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS BABY… EVEN THOUGH IT BEEN LEAKED 6 MONTHS AGO….HE DISTRACTED US RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT.
And we can’t forget the buried hate he’s prob always felt towards Black men as a result of his Black coon father abandoning him all his life.
he tried with Common buuuuuuuuuuut it’s Common LOL bodied him
WHY DID I READ THIS IN THE DBZ NARRATOR VOICE!!!!
it’s so funny cus radio stations bumping him non-stop as if they’ve been paid off or choosing a side. let the beef be a beef. this the first real once since the early 2000s anyway. I liked drake when he was just coming out and just being pure to himself and his lane but he has gotten cocky af. chill. you not even cute
she didn’t have to. her husband did. kinda the way Dwayne wade should’ve did for gabby instead he publicly stated he has a miracle baby to continue to carry the legacy of his name while she got dragged. Iman did right and shut it down
I heard this on the news and almost broke my tv
looks like a calculated kill to me. Drake been riding high off winning a rap battle as a “singing ninja” and look at Karma. Pusha was waiting LOL
Afro-Canadian. does he even have his citizenship with us??
It’s not just about who you run with but who you identify with. A person of color can identify with black people if they want to. They have a choice. People born in Africa may have more European blood than some mixed African Americans. Have you been to African countries? Have you seen the diversity? You can’t tell someone else who to identify with. I have mixed race cousins who have fairer skin who identify as black and others as white. It’s what that Person feels comfortable as. You don’t know their experience. Some mixed race people have darker skin and kinkier hair than people who consider themselves all black. They have the same experience as black people