Beyond Scared Straight Or Child Abuse?

Sandra Rose September 19, 2011

*Bumped*

This video of a black man harshly disciplining his son for acting up in school is difficult to watch. In the video originally posted on Worldstarhiphop.com, the father lists the 3 steps he takes to teach the boy discipline.

First he shaves the young man’s head bald. Then he whips him into shape before forcing the youngster to run laps and perform push ups out in the courtyard. As a final humiliation, he sends the video to Q at WSHH to publicly embarrass the kid.

The video’s introduction explains why the dad thinks his brutal methods are necessary (because there are more black males in prisons vs college). The introduction doesn’t mention the statistics of young black boys who are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD (hyperactivity).

ADHD makes it difficult for children to concentrate or pay attention in class, which leads to disciplinary problems in school.

We’re sure the brotha meant well but this disturbing video certainly borders on child abuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9d9FA3fCf4 FeFe

I saw this vid yesterday and I actually thought his method of discipline was harsh but necessary. I thought shaving his eyebrows off and all the excessive was a bit much, but everything else he did I could respect…
http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

i seen this yesterday. i dont know exactly what he did, but im leaning towards abuse
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

Auntie how do you know the boy is ADD?
http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

also , he a lil young. like what 6? 7? if he was older i could understand. maybe im soft. i have 2 girls, no boys i cant relate. my 7yo is an angel
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

@Fefe I agree! I didn’t like the shaving of the eyebrows either but everything else seemed necessary! I respect him for handling his son! A lot of kids don’t get enough structure or discipline and they end up behind bars for crimes that could have been prevented
chocolate divalicious

I am strong believer in spare the rod spoil the child but that does not mean embarrasing your child. To send in a copy of this tape to someone who could care less about you or your child is ridiculous. In this day in time in our black community where there is such a lack of fathers in the household I commend the father for trying to steer his son in the right direction but to go to this level of discipline I actually find quite disturbing.
HoneyBun

Maybe I’m horrible but I laughed the entire time. Anywho that ADD thing I always feel is a cop out to drug kids up. I’ve grown up with friends who used to have to take those pills and purposely chose never to take them agan because they made them feel so numb. They didn’t feel anger, saddness, happiness…etc, it just killed their emotions.

I’m not saying that there aren’t a few cases where kids have severe ADHD problems, in which treatment is necerssary, but usually the child just needs a good ass whoppin. From what it sounds like this boy was just laughing in class from the questions the dad was asking. If he had shown signs of continuous class diruption, not doing hw etc even with the punishment then I’d say you’d have a case for a mental issue. However just acting up and pushing/testing boundaries is what kids do, and parents are supposed to put kids back into line. And as well he did talk to the boy so that he would understand why he was getting punished. He said “This is what you did, this isn’t ok, therefore this is your punishment” I see nothing wrong with that.

Here’s my other thing, there are just some bad ass kids that need their ass whopped. I know because I was one of them, If I didn’t get that ass whoppin lawd alone knows where I would be. And I think the physical excercise punishment in general is great with the high obesity rates we have for childrent these days.

Just my 2 cents
HoneyBun

Bet you he won’t be acting a fool up in class again. His friend going to say “Hey lets *insert something they shouldn’t be doing*” and that boy’s going to give him the 0_o look and say, “Naw, I’ll pass, Not trying to get my eyebrows shaved off”
Crickett

Scared Straight. The grandmother sent this child over to his father for discipline. I think at his age he would have been diagnosed with ADD by now. My son was diagnosed the first week of Kindergarden. One thing I noticed is that even with the threat of death a ADD child cannot sit still without the wiggles- he was very still and alert, he didn’t say “huh” once- so his mind didn’t wonder. I don’t know about abuse, he talked to the kid and told him what he expects and also explained what he was going to do. I have 2 knuckleheaded boys who didn’t give a damn about school no matter what I did, I wish their father would have stopped chasing strippers to come over and check on them and whip them into shape for their own sake. Whatever it is, the kid won’t be disrepecting his Grandma and he will go to school to learn….at least for as long as he remembers what his father got waiting for him if he doesn’t.
Eb

Anywho that ADD thing I always feel is a cop out to drug kids up
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I agree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5ghXdq6Z0 Zoe B.

It wasn’t bad. He made sure he explained why he was doing it and that it was the consequence of his actions. A lot of parents go overboard and unload the stress of the day on their child. This guy just seems as if he is giving tough love because he knows his son can do better. SN: Where is the mother
Ms. Everything

I don’t wanna watch the video because that little boy is too young for all that BUT I do believe in disciplining my children. I would never shave my childs head but the exercise and whupping… umm yeah. I’m creative with my punishments so that my kids never know what to expect but I won’t degrade my children either and shaving that boys head is degrading (unless he had like a mohawk or some ish, then maybe)…

Now as far as ADD and ADHD and all that, I know I’m going to rifle some feathers, but I think both of those disorders are diagnosed incorrectly the majority of the time in an effort to control children (and some adults) behavior and as an excuse to keep the children behind. And both of those disorders, in my opinion, often stem from simple lazy parenting, teaching or not taking the time to get to know the child. Children are different, some learn better in different ways, some have more energy than others, some pay more attention to direction, but our jobs as parents and teachers are to get to know our children and the kids in our care and work with them in the way that works best. I have one child that does not respond well to spankings. You can whup her ass every day and she will not change what she’s doing… but let me make her sit by herself in her room for just 5 minutes and not let her talk to anybody and she’ll come out a completely different person. My son, you can punish him for hours/days/weeks and he’ll just keep finding different ways to amuse himself, but threaten to get a belt and he shapes up. My point is that disorders like those should take months/years of observation and trying different tactics before finally saying okay now lets try medication. Instead you have frustrated parents and teachers referring kids to therapy and lazy therapists looking at the child for an hour or two and then doling out pills, which like most behavior modification drugs, do more harm than good and will affect that child for the rest of their lives. JMO though and I’m not a doctor
http://www.ashland86.com TheRealAshland

Why doesn’t the little boy live with him, and why is granny raising him. maybe he is just wanting attention. I think this was beyond discipline and it doesn’t border but this is abuse. Emotional and physical…..dad and son both need help.
Daisy

I believe Dr. Jawanza Kunjufu has written several books about black boys and how the learn differently. Tavis Smiley had a GREAT piece on education and black young men this week on PBS “Too Important to Fail”.

I have no interest/desire to watch the video but I saw ppl discussing this on twitter yesterday.
I Run New York

I’m all for discipline but shaving someone’s eyebrows and sending the video to world star hip hop is sick. This father needs help.
http://Twitter.com/Juana4ev Joja86

I saw this on another site…thought shaving his eyebrows & taping it was OD. Little boy seemed to do this before and got disciplined and didn’t learn. *shrugs*
ssweetheart85

Sending this video to WSHH was extreme..shaving his eyebrows..extreme…I agree with those as being too much.

However, regardless to what people think or believe..our children are dying, going to prison, contracting all types of diseases, etc at an alarming rate. Nowadays seems as if parents are more concerned with being friends to their children then actually taking on the role of being a true parent.

I believe in spankings, discipline all of that, but there also needs to be a balance. Humiliating your child is not the proper way of teaching them a “lesson”. But I also want to say it seems the people most in arms when it comes to a child being disciplined are people who do not have children. When you become responsible for another life, you also become responsible for the growth, development and production to being a positive addition to society. Sometimes it bothers me how involved other people get in the discipline of someone else’s child.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

TheRealAshland says:

Why doesn’t the little boy live with him, and why is granny raising him. maybe he is just wanting attention.
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That’s exactly what I thought. Boys need their fathers and sometimes they will act out in order to get attention, even if that attention is in the form of a butt whipping. The father said he whipped the kid a few days ago for doing the same thing. That should be a clue to him that whipping doesn’t work, and spending quality time with the kid does.
ssweetheart85

Ms Everything says:

Now as far as ADD and ADHD and all that, I know I’m going to rifle some feathers, but I think both of those disorders are diagnosed incorrectly the majority of the time in an effort to control children (and some adults) behavior and as an excuse to keep the children behind. And both of those disorders, in my opinion, often stem from simple lazy parenting, teaching or not taking the time to get to know the child. Children are different, some learn better in different ways, some have more energy than others, some pay more attention to direction, but our jobs as parents and teachers are to get to know our children and the kids in our care and work with them in the way that works best.
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Agreed 1000%…..so your child has too much energy? Must be adhd. Unable to concentrate in school, oh thats adhd too. SMH, these so called doctors are so quick to want to put a child on medication. How about if my child has too much energy..hmm let’s get him/her involved in sports. My child has issues concentrating in school? Let’s talk with the teachers, administration, etc, about either the curriculum, could it possibly be he/she isnt paying attention because she is bored? I had the boredom issues when I was in school. No one suggested ritalin. It was because believe it or not I was too advanced, and needed to be challenged with what I was learning in school, hence being put into honors classes, etc.

We dont even give our children a chance nowadays to become something great, because we are so concerned about what the public thinks, etc. Its not up to the public, doctors, etc to raise our children. Its up to us.
Mr.BluPhi

Eyebrows and hair will grow back….. what he learned will stick with him for life.

Didn’t need to send the video in, but I watch beyond scared straight on tv, and I think, damn why aren’t these kids getting disciplined at home. And on Beyond Scared Straight, complete strangers have children exercising and walking around in jail uniforms. Why not the actual parent?

As a teacher I see some of the worst behaved students and there is nothing sadder than a parent who says “I dont know what to do”…and I always think…your child is 17, it’s a little too late to start parenting now. He’s been acting up since elementary school, did you think it would magically get better when he entered high school….
ssweetheart85

Mr BluPhi says:

I watch beyond scared straight on tv, and I think, damn why aren’t these kids getting disciplined at home. And on Beyond Scared Straight, complete strangers have children exercising and walking around in jail uniforms. Why not the actual parent?

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These parents are too busy trying to be their children’s friends or it doesnt help when the parent is in an age range close to their child, i.e, 25 years old, with a 10 year old son/daughter. Not to knock anyone who had children at a young age, because my mother had me at 14. But it shows with many parents when babies are raising babies. You can not be your child’s friend and expect to be an effective parent.

I watch that show too and I also get an urge to slap the hell out of the parents, like what are you doing? How is it your child is running YOUR household and telling YOU what to do and you’re the parent?
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ ssweetheart85 and Ms Everything:

Doctors are not dumb. They know the difference between a child who is bored and a child who cannot hold his concentration for 3 minutes and disrupts the classroom by bouncing in and out of his seat and off the walls. There are specific signs and symptoms that doctors are trained to look for in ADD children, and they base their diagnosis on those set of symptoms. Doctors did not go through all those years of medical school just so they can control you or your children. It’s easy for lay people to sit back and judge the doctor’s decision, but spend one FULL day in a classroom with an ADD child so you can see what the teachers and the other students have to deal with.
ssweetheart85

Sandra Rose says:
@ ssweetheart85 and Ms Everything:

Doctors are not dumb. They know the difference between a child who is bored and a child who cannot hold his concentration for 3 minutes and disrupts the classroom by bouncing in and out of his seat and off the walls. There are specific signs and symptoms that doctors are trained to look for in ADD children, and they base their diagnosis on those set of symptoms. Doctors did not go through all those years of medical school just so they can control you or your children. It’s easy for lay people to sit back and judge the doctor’s decision, but spend one FULL day in a classroom with an ADD child so you can see what the teachers and the other students have to deal with.

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Well first of all considering my little brother was diagnosed with ADHD I clearly have a little more knowledge of it as I lived in the house with him all of my life. Doctors put him on Ritalin. What did it do? He continued to fail classes in school, was sluggish, slow in movements, etc. So you tell me how medicating him, with what these so called doctors who have been “trained” for so many years did for him?

Like I said before I won’t completely say every doctor makes incorrect diagnosis, etc, all of the time, but if your first instinct as a doctor is to medicate a child because they are considered to hyperactive, you need to reevaluate your line of work.
ssweetheart85

Sandra Rose says:
@ ssweetheart85 and Ms Everything:

Doctors are not dumb. They know the difference between a child who is bored and a child who cannot hold his concentration for 3 minutes and disrupts the classroom by bouncing in and out of his seat and off the walls. There are specific signs and symptoms that doctors are trained to look for in ADD children, and they base their diagnosis on those set of symptoms. Doctors did not go through all those years of medical school just so they can control you or your children. It’s easy for lay people to sit back and judge the doctor’s decision, but spend one FULL day in a classroom with an ADD child so you can see what the teachers and the other students have to deal with.

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Ssweetheart85 says:
Well first of all considering my little brother was diagnosed with ADHD I clearly have a little more knowledge of it as I lived in the house with him all of my life. Doctors put him on Ritalin. What did it do? He continued to fail classes in school, was sluggish, slow in movements, etc. So you tell me how medicating him, with what these so called doctors who have been “trained” for so many years did for him?

Like I said before I won’t completely say every doctor makes incorrect diagnosis, etc, all of the time, but if your first instinct as a doctor is to medicate a child because they are considered to hyperactive, you need to reevaluate your line of work.

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And to add to that standpoint…what helped my brother with his ADHD? It certainly was not Ritalin, or the upping of the dosage as the “doctors” suggested. The help came due to extra care from my mother, more challenging curriculum, him being able to be more active and have the opportunity to do more things within the community and etc. So again I say, Ritalin may be the answer for “doctors” but not always for the children.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ ssweetheart85:

the fact that you took your little brother to a doctor means you were aware that there was a behavioral problem that required more than a belt and harsh discipline to resolve. Kudos to you for that. The fact that the medication didn’t work means that a different medication was necessary. Ritalin is not a perfect drug. But there are other medications within that class of drugs that doesn’t have the same side effects. It’s important to work with the doctors to find the best medication for your brother. I worked with troubled youths at a boy’s jail and the meds we gave those kids worked. They were not sluggish and they retained their wit and pleasant personalities. But then again, I was their nurse
KrayZKat

I think some parents are too quick to hit, scream, and yell at their children (especially in the black community). If you spank your child and the child keeps doing the same thing, common sense would tell a person that that form of discipline is not working. A person doesn’t need to have given birth to know this.

I know too many parents who don’t have to lay one fingernail on their children, and their kids are well behaved and great kids.

I’m not against spanking, but I’m against abuse. This was abusive. Beyond Scared Straight shows kids that have other issues that whipping may not handle. If parents stop being so quick to hit and to find out what’s going on internally with their child, they might have better success. JMO.
Sandra said, “Doctors are not dumb.” I wholeheartedly disagree with this comment. Oh, many of them are, Sandra. I’ve seen it first hand so many times I can’t count.
ssweetheart85

@Sandra Rose LOL right Ms Sandra..I just feel like medication should be a last resort..because sometimes the child just needs a bit more attention, help or etc. But I agree.
TiFan4Lyfe

We’re sure the brotha meant well but this disturbing video certainly borders on child abuse.

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agreed
Yardgirl

KrayZKat says:

I think some parents are too quick to hit, scream, and yell at their children (especially in the black community). If you spank your child and the child keeps doing the same thing, common sense would tell a person that that form of discipline is not working. A person doesn’t need to have given birth to know this.

I know too many parents who don’t have to lay one fingernail on their children, and their kids are well behaved and great kids.

I’m not against spanking, but I’m against abuse. This was abusive.

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CO-SIGN!!!! I was never beaten and my dad was a stern drill sergeant who made grown men quake in their shoes!! I knew what I had to do and did it because it was expected. Now I have a son and it is the same thing with him, do what you have to do and we good.

That video made me cry when I heard the father cussing at the kid while hitting him and the kid begging him to stop because it hurt (and yes I know he meant for it to hurt. What kind of message is he sending to this child? He has done it before and the kid still acts up so obviously it is not working
http://www.scottwaypublishing.com Jazzy Mommy

I watched this video yesterday and although I believe the father had his intentions in the right place, he went a little overboard. You should NEVER humiliate your child as a form of discipline. Using humiliation on a child as a tactic to encourage positive behavior leads to low self esteem in the child and can only open up a whole new can of worms, possibly worse than what the initial problem was. While I’m all for discipline there is a line that shouldn’t ever be crossed. I’d be willing to bet that nobody has this little boy enrolled in any extracurricular activities, AND he is problably very intelligent and often bored in class which leads to the clowning around. African Americans are so used to azz whoopings that we think it solves every problem with our kids. Everything doesn’t warrant beating the hell of your kids. Taking time to figure out WHY the negative behavior is happening doesn’t take a lot of effort if you are the type of parent who pays attention to them in the first place.
Creamychic

So now dfacs have seen this and is now thinking about taking the boy from him, put the lil boy in a system. Make the father have supervised visitation, now the system gets to raise ur lil man, if they dont get the black man when hes an adult, they let ur stupidity volunteer ur own child to them. when are my people gonna ever learn, this country nor this system is here to help u black man. Its here to destroy u, giving these women govermnet assisstant, foodstamps, free rent, what is the purpose of a black father in the home nowadays, he has none, the system is making sure of that. Instread of encouraging these women to not have alot of kids until they are married, established and able to take care of their fsmilies. I know this is beyond the post. But it starts right here with the fathers. Evning family
honeybun13

I have a son with adhd which was not diagnosed until he was 7 with that said I feel this was excessive and it became too hard for me to watch the boy is young and misbehaved ok but the father went overboard when whooping him a lick or two whould have been suffcient
I Run New York

“Eyebrows and hair will grow back….. what he learned will stick with him for life.”

They will grow back but the emotional scars will last a very long time. I doubt the child learned anything constructive from this especially since this isn’t the first time his father has done this and the child is still acting up. This is truly sad because I believe the father’s heart’s in the right place but he’s doing more damage then good and doesn’t even realize it. World star hip hop? Is this man serious? smh. Instead of contacting an adult/big booty/rap video site he should be contacting centers in the area to see what after school programs they have. SMH very sad
datsmdubya2u

If he meant to discipline his son why did he send this video to a website?

Whether or not his discipline was too harsh it should have been kept in the family. What ever happened to not telling all you business in the black community?

I suspect some of this like the eyebrows and head shaving was for the camera. which renders this parents moral authority. MOOT!
datsmdubya2u

@ssweetheart85

These parents are too busy trying to be their children’s friends or it doesnt help when the parent is in an age range close to their child, i.e, 25 years old, with a 10 year old son/daughter.

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nope they aren’t even trying to be the kids friend. They aren’t paying attention at all to the kid. They are still trying to go to the club, chase the opposite (or same sex), on facebook more than any 13 year old, playng more video games than the kids, watching hella reality shows, smoking more weed, online defending beyonce or rhanna, trying to get noticed on youtube, spending the household income on fashion and hair instead of saving. Going through the spouses/significant others phone, texting him or her all day, fighting with their significant others ex or babbies mama. After doing all that all day who has time to raise the kid. Then when the kid does get in trouble they wanna go overboard.
ssweetheart85

Right! I can agree. Its just a sad situation all around.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

I Run New York says:

They will grow back but the emotional scars will last a very long time. I doubt the child learned anything constructive from this especially since this isn’t the first time his father has done this and the child is still acting up.
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I agree. Whipping a child like a dog doesn’t work the same way it didn’t work when the slave masters whipped Toby ‘n ’em in the 1800s. We were taught by slave masters that whipping will break a man (or a child) and make him behave. The father resorted to violence to modify a child’s behavior and it didn’t work any other time he did it. So the father will continue to increase the violence. I hope DFACs does step in and remove the boy from that situation.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

datsmdubya2u says:

If he meant to discipline his son why did he send this video to a website?
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Exactly.
BellaBarbie

I wonder what Nancy Grace would think of this video:/ SMH!
dopedillema

this man obviously hates this child, how is this discipline. how does quoting statistics make child abuse ok. if we were to examine the background of jailed black men, we would find that an overwhelming number have been been abused in their childhoods. the boy will grow up to be angry and brutal in return. this man is disgusting. this cycle has to stop now!!!!
Ms. Everything

Sandra I’m late coming back in (had to work today) but when my son was younger I was having major issues with him, he was bouncing off the walls non stop, being horrible to his sisters, acting up at school, talking back to me, I mean he was a little terror and nothing, NOTHING, I did helped the problem. Whup him, 10 minutes later he was right back to it, time-out, same thing, bed early, same thing, I literally threw away every single one of his toys and made him watch and his little ass cried for all of 2 seconds and went right back to acting like a demon (harsh but that’s what he was acting like), finally after talking to a few people they told me to take him to the dr and his pediatrician said to me, if anybody would diagnose your son based off the behavior you just described to me then you need to run to a new dr cause they’re just trying to push pills on him. So she said, take him home and keep trying and if he still hasn’t improved within a few more months bring him back and we’ll try counseling first. I went home, I broke out my parenting books, I came up with a reward system and then I set up appointments with a child and family therapist and literally within weeks my son was back normal. Alot of these kids don’t need medication, they just need time, attention and sometimes therapy can help. Too many black people will take medication before they’ll spend an hour a day in a therapists chair cause they think seeing a counselor is crazy. But alot of these kids (and adults) could benefit from therapy before being medicated. And I’m pro medication when it’s needed but alot of these pills dr’s are prescribing is not needed, sometimes, yes it is but alot of it can be avoided with a little extra, time, patience, research and knowledge about children…. that’s all I was saying
dlynn87

This video is hard to watch. A couple of points here. The father should not have sent in the video (FAIL). Shaving the eyebrows, hair is extreme. The making the kid exercise is GREAT!!! My mother used to make us exercise as well walk/run miles for discipline this really works.

I have triplet 19 month old sons and I do believe in spoil the rod… Any discipline given out has to be done in LOVE, thats the key.

I do applaud this father for caring and getting involved with his son. He needs to spend more time with this kid, that is very apparent, take him from grandmas house and instead of playing video games go to the library, read books, go to a museum. Our young boys and black men need to be taught LIFE SKILLS!!!! All dads step up NOW!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

SANDRA ROSE….i disagree with you on ALOT of things. However, your explaination of ADHD, medication and etc is 100% accurate.

ADHD is nuerobiological disorder that impacts the executive functionings of the brain. Yes in most cases the symptoms seems as if students are misbehaving or choosing to make bad decisions. IM IN CONFLICT DAILY with teachers getting them to understand hiw ADHD is manifested in the classroom.

I can go on and on about this but.my point is people can have thier uneducated opinions of ADHD medication, doctors, teachers and etc but I challenge YOU to do more research to help your.child.

Medication is only one type of support for those students. Equipped your child with strategies and.coping skills that would aassist in him/her accessing.the general education curriculum.

Hell you treat a headache and a cold……treat ADHD as well
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Now, as soon as this little boy gets a little bit bigger and an innocent person becomes this kids victim, everyone will be hollering “where was his family and they should’ve kept him in line & check!” I’m so sick of people who don’t know a person from Adam has to throw in their 2 cents on how people are to raise their child, especially when they have not children! Then these same people take the children out of the home from “so called danger” and placed them in to the foster system where is has been PROVEN that children are abused, raped, harassed, treated differently than biological children and are only their for the funds! GIVE ME A BREAK! :rolleye:
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Excuse my post….all types of mistakes!
FLOATY T

People are so quick to call abuse. People are so quick to put labels and make excuses for these children. In times when I was growing up there was no such thing as ADD/ADHD. And if you acted up you got your butt tore up. No questions, no labels. I work for DHS. I have SEEN child abuse. I have seen children who need some form of medication. I have seen children who have been burned by their parents. That’s abuse. I have seeen parents who have left their children at home and the house catches fire. That’s abuse. I have seen a little boys hand shot off and the family is sitting by drinking and smoking everything under the sun. That’s abuse. This is NOT abuse. Children need their butts whipped every now and again. Apparently this man needed to go to extreme because he had already whipped the boy before. Making him do a little exercise, sweat isn’t going to hurt him. He wasn’t bleeding. He did not need hospital care afterwards. But I personally think he will remember that dad doesn’t play and he needed to straighten up. Would you rather this same little boy to end up on the news doing God knows what like allthese other fools? I think that as long as there is positive reinforcement afterwards and love given, the boy will be fine.
I think him posting that video didn’t serve as the sole purpose of embaressing the little dude. I think it was a way to show parents other methods to use when they may have a child…especially a boy…acting up.

I understand where you and your readers are coming from whole heartedly, bu the bigger picture needs to be looked at as well. That man cares about his son. He does not want him to end up a statistic like our other black guys are doing. Check out the other vids where the our little black boys are being praised and laughed at for cursing and fighting. They record that and post those…..
TwinMom

This dad is a bit much! Where is this little boy’s mom? Why is his grandma raising him? I am so sick of young people not taking care of their responsibilities….ie their kids. I am also sick of people having their children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD to get a disability check. I am so sick and tired of these hood scams!!!! Get off the government and take care of your own! Free your mind from the system!!!
datsmdubya2u

@tatted

I don’t necessarily disagree with the punishment, although i think shaving the eyebrows was a little extreme. I oppose a man who doesn’t even live with his own child taking these measures and then SEND IT TO A HIP HOP/BIG BOOTY/GENERAL JUNK VIDEO website. Why would he humiliate his son like that for some internet fame?
http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

No win situation here. I’m sure the boy was bad and the grandmother had a hard time handling him. But then, the kid is cursed with a thuggish father who probably never even sees him unless he’s disciplining him and he’s to ignut to know that shaving hair, eyebrows, and sending a video in to embarass his kid is not helping AT ALL. Where’s the mother? Grandma needs to just take this boy to church, put him in sports, and expose him to upstanding male figures.
http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

And I’m totally ignoring the ADD comment. Doesn’t apply to this kid.
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

I have no problem with this fathers discipline method.. Parents fight for your children.. Trust the streets are fighting for them to do negativity ..The harm to young man will face down the road if this method of discipline is not there,,, would be far worst.. I commend this father..keep going we need more father like him.. Just look around this young men quick to shoot and pull triggers because they never were instill with discipline, problem solving or structure… carry on father
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

At the end of the day.. I bet he wont careee his behind t0 school and act a foool no more.. Let them investigation it is not illegal to beat your kids.. if the discipline did not impaired his physical activity.. and if it did not cause serious injury or harm father is good..
Father stay focus and raise that boy to be a man.. because if this boy go out there and start knocking the white on the head they r gonna blame you anyway…
This is whats needed and missung in our culture.. F that growing up to be angry.. thats the white man way.. Children need discipline and structure and it starts at home….This boy will grow to be a honor roll kid.. Father i commend you
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

sorry for the typos
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

@ ssweetheart85 and Ms Everything:

Doctors are not dumb. They know the difference between a child who is bored and a child who cannot hold his concentration for 3 minutes and disrupts the classroom by bouncing in and out of his seat and off the walls. There are specific signs and symptoms that doctors are trained to look for in ADD children, and they base their diagnosis on those set of symptoms. Doctors did not go through all those years of medical school just so they can control you or your children. It’s easy for lay people to sit back and judge the doctor’s decision, but spend one FULL day in a classroom with an ADD child so you can see what the teachers and the other students have to deal with.

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Sandra Nope!.. Tell me what was the diagnoses in the 70’s and 80’s.. This is a money making machine for your govt.. Dick Cheney is all up in the Pharmeceuticals *sp! Trained… yea im a trained parent that knows my child and he would not be a static.. (ADHD, ADD,ODD, locked up, juvenile deliquent, dropOut, deadbeat etc)

Families walk into a doctors office for an intake.. which last an hour if that and you gonna diagnose a child with bipolar, sizcphrenoc add, adhd etc. Plz dont believe the hype! Im in the filed of social services and ive taught third graders for 3 yrs.. It so much that comes into to play. This teachers today have no classroom management, they are inexperience along with the child coming from an unstable home with lack of structure, no discipline the list goes on! I say parents Whoop yo child Azz if its needed and trust there would be a big difference! Look around.. And you cant wait until he/she is 12 13 14 15 to start structure/discipline
I Run New York

At the end of the day.. I bet he wont careee his behind t0 school and act a foool no more.. ”

You bet wrong. The father beat the child a couple days before this beating and the kid is still not the way the father wants him. This method is not working.
Ididntreallymeanit

No win situation here. I’m sure the boy was bad and the grandmother had a hard time handling him. But then, the kid is cursed with a thuggish father who probably never even sees him unless he’s disciplining him and he’s to ignut to know that shaving hair, eyebrows, and sending a video in to embarass his kid is not helping AT ALL. Where’s the mother? Grandma needs to just take this boy to church, put him in sports, and expose him to upstanding male figures.

^^^ I Agree ^^^
MrUnapologetic

No abuse. The problem I had was with the father filming the entire event and posting it for all to see. If there’s going to be any emotional scars it will be from the humiliation of it all.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Listen, Ion give 2 chits about those eyebrows. They will grow back! Was it extreme, YES! But many of parents, including ours have taken extreme measures. I don’t agree w/him videotaping it and sending it in, but then again, not my concern! If that’s the case, tell this to the parents that make their children hold up signs to their crimes and sins on street concerns (mostly white parents). This is in fact humiliating the child too! But I bet the majority of them won’t still, backtalk, etc. again! I was 15 years old. My mom just came home from work and she overheard me on the phone gossiping about another person! She said “Tatted, once you get off the phone, i’mma need you to come here for a second!” I got off the phone and went to her room as she asked me! She told me to come closer to her and give her a kiss. As soon as I bent down to give her a peck on the check, she clocked me DEAD IN THE MOUF! I was stunned! I looked @ her, eyes swollen up w/tears and she said, “I love you, and if you cannot handle ME, the one person on the face of the earth that will die for you punching you in the mouf for talking about someone, how the hell are you gonna handle someone who don’t give a fugg about you punching you in the mouf when they overheard you talking about them??!!” It was harsh, it was extreme, but I learned my lesson in that area!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

– i mean on street corners!
pointhimout

lol wow he shaved the eyebrows too? damn. at the barber shop once, this guy came in with his sons. one of them spilled a soda on the floor. he made him clean it up, he popped him in his chest and made him do push ups on his knuckles.

we say it’s extreme until the lil kid grow to be a terror on society. I wouldn’t go this far, but that’s that man’s house. I can’t step in to say how to discipline your kids cuz I’m not responsible for them. The vid to WSHH is a bit much, but again, not my kid or house.
Anna

pointhimout says:

lol wow he shaved the eyebrows too? damn. at the barber shop once, this guy came in with his sons. one of them spilled a soda on the floor. he made him clean it up, he popped him in his chest and made him do push ups on his knuckles.

we say it’s extreme until the lil kid grow to be a terror on society. I wouldn’t go this far, but that’s that man’s house. I can’t step in to say how to discipline your kids cuz I’m not responsible for them. The vid to WSHH is a bit much, but again, not my kid or house.

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I disagree. It still takes a village. If we all have the mentality “not my kid, not my house”, we are apart of the problem. You don’t have to be a parent to love and protect a chid from a bully parent.
precious1

That was a little too much. I understand where he is going but he went about it the wrong way. WHY is this child it seems, living with his grandma? Does this no nonsense father not have his own child? If he doesn’t, I say he sit his ass down somewhere. Instead of teaching him discipline, he may enable the boy to harbor all sorts of ill feelings. Thus resulting in the opposite feelings he was trying to bring out. Now…I believe in disciplining children but you have to do it within reasons. Like the woman who was making her son drink hot sauce…pure craziness!
Starr

I’m willing to bet that the little boy learned nothing from that whole episode.

If he really cared about his son, he wouldn’t of send it to a hip hop site for the world to see. This ish will never leave the internet. Is this even discipline, morel like humiliation. I hope someone for the DFAC saw this.
cougar lover

he doing too much talking. it only took 3-4 whippings for acting bad before i knew my parents didn’t play. Only only other time we got popped was cuz somebody ate all the cookies, or drank all the koolaid and we all got it cuz nobody spoke up lol
pointhimout

@Anna, that sounds good, but the reality is 9/10 adults will act a fool if you say anything to their child, let alone TOUCH them? It takes a village was 50 years ago. You have to admit we’re in a different time now. Hell, some of the kids may pull a weapon if you say something. Am I afraid? Not at all. I stick with it’s not my kid, niece or nephew, whom I will phuck up grand style with or without the parent’s permission.

Some discipline can be extreme, I’ve also seen where it’s nonexistent. I stay out of it, and keep the kid away from me because I do believe in discipline – not to this extent, but some.
West Coast Chick

I agree with the discipline. You have to go hard these days, because the streets are merciless.. better the father do it, than some police officer, jail, prison.. I don’t see how it was child abuse. The boy didn’t have any visible marks, he was able to run, do push ups.. More fathers need to take notes… Raise a man, not a thugged out, saggy pants, sexually confused, boy.
West Coast Chick

If he really cared about his son, he wouldn’t of send it to a hip hop site for the world to see.
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I’m glad he did. Its called community awareness. What he did was love and be a concerned parent. I assume that black man knows how the streets are do brothas.. I say, good job dad!
Anna

pointhimout says:

@Anna, that sounds good, but the reality is 9/10 adults will act a fool if you say anything to their child, let alone TOUCH them? It takes a village was 50 years ago. You have to admit we’re in a different time now. Hell, some of the kids may pull a weapon if you say something. Am I afraid? Not at all. I stick with it’s not my kid, niece or nephew, whom I will phuck up grand style with or without the parent’s permission.

Some discipline can be extreme, I’ve also seen where it’s nonexistent. I stay out of it, and keep the kid away from me because I do believe in discipline – not to this extent, but some.

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I get what you are saying, but if we don’t step up who will? Kids are dying because of abuse each day. Yes, no disapline is just as bad as nonexistent disapline. Kids don’t ask to be born, not good for me to turn my head if I see wrong. Some ppl really don’t know how to parent. You have to have a car seat before you can take the baby home from the hospital, do hospital’s have State wide parenting classes (before the baby can come home)?
atltx

If it were not for this type of discipline…my black azz would be dead.

Every child can be diagnosed with something…the pill mill is for real.

A baldy is my style right now (backpain + damn good chemdawg = plug o hair missing)…hair is brown/red so eyebrows blend in with my skin…it’s like I’m missing hair there anyway. I don’t give 2 shats about it all and neither will this youngin. It’s just hair.

If I see one more little fat azz child waddlin behind their parents with some damn 99 cent arizona fruit punch flavored drank…yeah…exercising is good and helps you get over the stinging. I hate the stinging with a passion…it doesn’t hurt…just got on my nerves. Had a cousin that would just stand there and take an azz whuppin…I always cried for him. “Cricket…you gotta cry if you want it to stop!” Those were the days…
Destinee

It is funny people cry that ADHD issue when it is convenient, cuz you can get a kid to pay attention to the things he wants to pay attention to (ex:video games, playing around, talking to friends). If a kid knows that if he doesnt pay attention or acts up in class that there is a punishment if you don’t do what you are suppose to..then you get disciplined. End of Story! Stop making excuses for these kids to not be obedient to their teacher or parents.
quay306

TO EVERYONE THAT THINK THIS IS OVERBOARD….IM SORRY BUT ITS NOT…..HE ACTUALLY DID THE RIGHT THING…..HE SHAVED HIS HEAD SO HE WON’T LAUGH AND PICK ANYMORE AND GAVE HIM A WHIPPING BECAUSE OF HIS BEHAVIOR AND MADE HIM DO PT….REASON Y I AGREE WITH IT…BECAUSE I WAS 1 OF THOSE KIDS THAT.(1).PUT A THUMB TACK IN A TEACH CHAIR..(2). ACTED OUT IN CLASS..(3). GOT PLACED FROM THE 3RD GRADE to 9th grade..all years…UNTIL MY MOTHER BEGIN BEATING MY BEHIND IN THE 9TH GRADE WITH A BOARD.. I RECIEVED WHIPPING MOSTLY EVERY DAY OR EVERY OTHER DAY..I ONCE RECIEVED A WHIPPING SO BAD THAT MY HAND WAS BLEEDING..THATS BECAUSE I WAS SO TERRIBLE IN SCHOOL THAT I HAD GOT AWAY WITH IT SO MUCH TILL IT SEEMED SO RIGHT TO JUX GO TO SCHOOL AND CLOWN…UNTIL THE END OF MY 9TH GRADE YEAR AND BEGING OF 10TH GRADE THEN I REALIZED THAT I NEEDED MY DIPLOMA AND DIDNT WANT TO STAY IN MY HOMETOWN AND BE ON THE CORNER…I THINK THE POLICE OFFICER EVERY TIME I SEE HIM FOR SENDING ME TO JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER FOR 3 DAYS THAT WAS REALLY A WAKE UP CALL AND INSPIRED ME TO BE A BETTER PERSON..SO BEFORE U GO WITH THE PEOPLE THAT JUDGING THIS MAD AND THEIR KIDS IS PROBABLY BAD ASS HELL AND DDONT RECIEVE SPANKING…YALL REALLY SHOULD BE THANKING THIS MAN THAT HE IS 1 OF THE MILLIONS OF BLK FATHER THAT DID DECIDE TO TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILD AND HE IS WORRIED ABOUT THIS LITTLE CHILD FUTURE…….OAN…STOP FALLING FOR THESE SO CALLED DAM DIAGNOSES…ADD REALLY?…GIVE UR CHILD THE PILLS TO WHERE THERE ARE JUX WALKING AROUND FEELING DOWN……ALL PARENTS THAT HAVE A CHILD TAKING MEDS FOR ADD….TAKE 1 PILL TO SEE WHAT UR CHILD GO THRU..WE BEEN TOOK MY NEPHEW OFF OF THEM PILLS..

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