The transgender community in Louisiana, is alarmed after the unrelated murders of three male-to-transgender people there.
Chyna Gibson and Ciara McElveen were murdered within 48 hours of each other in New Orleans.
Gibson, 31, was shot multiple times in the parking lot outside a shopping center on Feb. 25.
On Feb. 27, Ciara McElveen was stabbed multiple times by a male driving a late model car, possibly a Camaro, in the 1700 block of Columbus Street.
“Dude came around to the passenger side and I see a knife in his hand,” a witness told Nola.com. “I’m thinking he’s about to stab (the victim) but, apparently, he already stabbed (the victim) in the car. Then he pulled (the victim) out by (the victim’s) head and slammed (the victim’s) face to the ground. Then he pulled off.”
McElveen, 25, was the sixth reported death of a transgender person in 2017.
“I’ve been frightened, but not like this before,” said Imani Dupree, a male-to-transgender resident of New Orleans.
A week earlier, Jaquarrius Holland was killed in another Louisiana town. All three victims were black and wore stereotypical feminine clothing and accessories.
The transgender community is concerned that the murders aren’t given the same priority as non-transgender deaths.
The three murders are part of a national trend. In 2016, a record 23 transgender people were killed around the country. Most of the murders have gone unsolved.
“When you can’t be valued for simply who you are then that sets up a situation where people think they can do anything to you,” said Beverly Tillery.
Tillery, who works with the New York City Anti-Violence Project, says the political climate and public debate over bathroom access is making trans people feel less safe.
Most of the victims were sex workers, an extremely dangerous occupation for men who impersonate women.
“What scares me the most is that people will feel like they can get away with these things and nothing will be done about it,” Dupree said.
“How many more people have to be killed before something is done about it?” Dupree added.
Sex workers…Is that what we are calling it these days? Either way its sad to have anyone’s like taken. SMH
The Johns call it “hobbying” head over to reddit.. these men crack me up posting about “hobbying”
Even if you don’t agree with someone’s sexual preference or lifestyle, killing them is not the answer. RIP to those who are affected by this tragedy.
Not cool. I don’t buy the whole sex worker thing either, but we move on.
This is sad…but what I will say is, men who solicit sex, aren’t generally cool with being tricked.. if they’re lookin for some type of weird ass men on trans sex, they usually SEEK that… I kno as a sex worker they dont really have to disclose their sex, but it is a very dangerous game to play especially if the solicitor finds out you’re the same sex, while receiving the favor.. anyway, 3 senseless killings and I’m praying for the victims and their families..
Buying sex and selling it is wrong. Mad that you got buyers remorse and using murder as a return policy.
This is so disheartening ? Regardless of their personal life these individuals are still human beings and someone’s family member
Yes, but you can’t assume they’re tricking anyone. I see so many TS types and 8/10 times know they are. IDK I don’t see the point in killing anyone all cuz they say they’re a woman, but aren’t. I guess cuz I’m same sex oriented and there are so many guys who seek out TS types, but not regular men. It’s a fetish of so many ‘str8’ guys. Unfortunately, we still dismiss it as ‘oh well they should stop lying to men.’
It’s not saying some TS don’t lie, but I promise you, the trick knows.
Pretty much.
Are they being murdered because they are not what the suitor thought they were?….then apparently men need to take a class and do the education on distinguishing the difference between a woman and a trans woman. Can’t be taking lives because you embarrassed.
Sad. I get if you disagree w/ someone’s lifestyle choice but killing them is not the answer.
Most of the murders have gone unsolved.
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Because they are thought to be less than. They still have families but hoe Susie with the blue eyes gets killed or goes missing and all kinds of rewards are offered and they’re still making the news (as ALL should) 12 years later.
Or not solicit sex period
This is alarming and it shouldn’t be taken lightly. Praying for their families. Gotta be safe in these streets.
Exactly because I mean in this case it’s obvious.
It will never stop.
People need to mind their business. How does anyone doing them affect you doing you? Just keep on walking.
Nope. So unless you trying to get a free preview of what you MIGHT be getting, the risk you take is unknown. Just like with HIV and STDs.
Sidebar: Ciara was in a car accident in L.A. Thankfully, she appears to be fine. I know that’s a scary situation for her with her being in her third trimester.
Some want it (Mister Cee) but feel ashamed after and then feel regret because they may be outted but are still in denial.
My question was answered. So if they worked in sex industry maybe its john that’s killig them. May they RIP
go and round up white males between ages 28-45 , construction worker, about 6’1to 6’5 missing back teeth, live near lower ninth ward, and a christian that’s married , but have a fetish for black dyck, but hate he have that fetish, a father of 3, if you know where he is please call your local police dept.
This has been happening in Chicago as well. RIP??
I hope these boys are letting their partners know upfront that they are chicks-with-dyks. Withholding that type of information can get you killed… So sad…. the person going around killing them is prolly a tranny lover and feeling conflicted because of it…
More than likely it’s a hate crime. Someone out there killing these men just because they are gay. I say again, it’s Lucifer putting evil thoughts in people’s minds.
EVERYONE’S murder SHOULD be taken seriously …
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Lawd, I was about to ask you wtf was you talking about because one of the trannies calls himself Ciara.
It’s Friday and I am suffering from brain farts, lol.
the one in the middle would be the only one who seems questionable…
Let me ask you this, do you see how enraged a straight male would be when tricked into believing he was with a woman only to find out it was a man with a duck taped peen rocking a beyonce lacefront? Straight men….don’t play that, not even a little bit.
has nothing to do with suppressed homo-erotic fantasies or having feelings of confusion. Nah, it has everything to do with being deceived by a gay MAN knowing full well he was dealing with a straight man.
That might cause the most tolerant man to snap and beat the brakes – and MAC makeup – off of a dude. ijs
the one in the middle maybe,…the other two are clearly men
Who make hideous looking women….
welp yah
I bet it’s a DL man…and I bet he has kids and a girlfriend…
Yes. Let me ask you this, do you see how men you know and/or are related to could have a fetish for TS types? We both have to keep in mind that per the man rule book, one must always be highly offended by anything that resembles or borderlines gay, although we really aren’t. It’s what the man handbook says.
Terrible way to go.
We may never know what led up to this but whoever did this was enraged. RIP to the victim.
This is my main point of contention; the guys are pretending to be tricked and blacking out when it’s not true. They are actually seeking out these TS folk. Where is Mister Cee?
Sad to hear this regardless of what I think about being a transgender. They have friends/ families that care their wellbeing. On a side note: the one in the red wig needed better friends because she did not look feminine at allllllll……
That’s sad. But you can’t be out here tricking folks neither. This ? already crazy enuff.
Exactly! The others…whoever killed them…definitely knew. There was no excuse about deceit on their parts.
Profiling huh LOL. I can’t say I disagree.
Well…crimes against people in the sexx industry tend to go overlooked…
First let me say whether a man knew or not he was dealing with a trans, murder is a beyond excessive response to it!
To answer your question, sure i can see that however there are men out there who are straight, who don’t want any dealing with any other men on a sexual/intimate level and will become unhinged if deceived into doing so.
In this day in age, it really isn’t necessary to not disclose that, lol. There is a fetish for that type of male..a huge one..so leave the straights out of this.
Hellll…you scaring me lol. Straight men I know are offended by gays coming on to them or the thought of being sexualllly involved with a gay man. Now you are saying they are not lol. Picking up the phone making some calls lol.
Mr. Cee is STILL in denial, claiming he’s only engaged in receiving oral from men because men do it better than women. Straight men wouldn’t give a shyt about that, lol. Looking down at a pretty chick with her breast out, plump lips slobbin on the knob, head bobbin until you throb is MORE THAN ENOUGH STIMULATION to a man, lol. :0)
I hope that is not what he is saying. Just because straight men want no dealings with gay men doesn’t mean they question they’re masculinity, have gay fantasies, feels threatened, etc. Maybe it simple means…they don’t want to be around gay men because they just don’t agree with the lifestyle and they’re repulsed by it.
Some of the excitement is around dating DL men as they like the thrill of the secrecy. They could easily end these killings if they are transparent AND refuse to date men that aren’t publicly homosexual. It doesn’t excuse the crimes, but prevention is key as well.
Yeah beat…but not killed. Deceit is one thing…but murder another. The thought of being with a man thinking it is a female could be so mind blowing. Just like finding out a child is not yours…or your spouse cheating with your family member as you walk in…I see your point, or finding your mate with an animal sexualllly. People kill others for so many reasons. I digress…
yea that one in the middle really looks like a woman..
OH I totally agree but we have seen folks killed for less..including all the examples you mentioned.
Nah, I think he is saying they aren’t as repulsed about the lifestyle as they portray to be. If straight men show they aren’t bothered by it, some may question their sexualityyyy. I was just kidding above.
But that’s not true in all cases. Some dudes…just ain’t wanting no dealings with the entire gay agenda and truly disgusted by it.
I hate eggs, lol…I don’t secretly wish I could rub my clit with an omelet! I know, I know…STUPID comparison but still…I simply do NOT like certain things, eggs being one…and there is no underlying reason for it.
What makes you think they are tricking folks. You can already see they were born men. Why is that always the “go-to excuse” when they are involved? It’s a scapegoat and a form of victim blaming. Most of the dudes dealing with these women are in the same mental space. Denial.
Yeah, I would be angry to become involved with someone who is a woman but pretending to be a man. But I would be equally upset about being deceived about anything. However, when people’s sexxx, money and shelter are threatened, we become in survival mode and very protective. And yes, you can die “playing” or deceiving folks. But I think the case SR is talking about is different. This doesn’t appear to be about deception of someone’s sexualll organ, but something much more serious. Because it’s too many deaths in a short time span.
GREAT POINTS!!!
LOLOLOL.
Well…I can’t say I disagree. I am repulsed by the thought of anall sexx by male on male. How can a man bend over or lay on top of another male for sexualll gratification and stimulation? I’m female by the way. But, I am not AS offended by the thought of anall sexx with male and female, although I think it’s nasty as well. I guess men really do not want to have anything in thought or action about other men sexuall.
You are so off base with your comment. First off gay men and transsexuals do not date each other. They are after the same thing men. You would see a transsexual dating a butch lesbian like Sandra first. Secondly these men aren’t tricked many are dating transsexuals and hooking up. Things go bad usually when things are discovered. Clearly you can tell with most that they aren’t born women. Just as many assumingly straight men are dealing with gay men as while but you don’t hear about crimes as heinous as this. Why is that? Also should we blame female women who date men that beat and kill them. If transsexuals are knowingly tricking men yes that is wrong. I will give you that but I’ve known transsexuals personally and most of these supposed straight men are seeking them out and cruising areas they frequent looking for them. It becomes an issue once it’s discovered. Both parties are in the space mental space, denial.
The one’s who tend to be offended the most are usually DL. My cousin has ‘outed’ a few guys to me and they are the biggest homophobes on Social Media.
I have a family member who’s gay, and he stated when he first started being sexual with guys in his early 20’s, afterwards, he felt disgusted and couldn’t stand to look at him (deep rooted thinking that it is wrong), so I guess I understand the remorse after the nut. Shit, I’ve had a few one night stands where a was kinda lit off the Henny and was in regret after the nut.
They knew. Just probably had “buyer’s remorse”
Since Auntie is always dissecting black parenting. What’s your view on this…
https://youtu.be/Mh4f9AYRCZY
Yeah, but some men really are disgusted by the thought…and aren’t on the DL or homophobes. Some men just do not like the idea of being with a man period…not just because they desire a woman…but because they don’t want a man in any form.
I’m just going to go ahead and put this out there….transgendered women have been getting murdered for decades now. Many are part of the night life and get caught up with unscrupulous characters. It’s no different than the many missing &/or dead biologically female prostitutes. Has anybody seen that documentary about the Cleveland Strangler where he was murdering Black women left and right and leaving their decaying bodies in his home for years. All of those women were drug addicts and prostitutes. That documentary was wild.
It’s time to stop lying and deceiving straight people into accepting that lifestyle. You can’t put negativity out into the universe and expect positive results. RIP to those that lost their lives.
That was my point. Stop dating straight men that you feel may not know exactly what your situation is. And it is an opinion that I am entitled to. For example, if I leave my purse on the table at a restaurant and excuse myself to the ladies room, is it wrong that someone stole my money? Yes. BUT.. NEXT TIME, I simply won’t leave it. While we should be able to be ourselves and live freely, it comes at a cost. It is not victim blaming but plain common sense. I am simply saying that they need to be careful.
I do lots of things to stay safe just because we don’t live in this beautiful world we hope for. And nothing should be “discovered”. Be up front and that leaves room for discovery.
THIS WAS HILARIOUS!!!! And he didn’t have any pants on… otherwise he would have gotten up out of that chair. WORKFROMHOMEFAIL!!!
Why are you referring to them as boys? They identify as trans women. If you are too intimidated and disrespectful to refer to them as that at least don’t be ignorant. Be mature enough to call them men instead of boys.
I also saw a program where a man tortured his black female victims and disposed of there bodies. He wrote a letter to a journalist is why he finally got caught.
Cops were not taking the time to investigate black prostitutes deaths. He could have gone on for years…
Lifestyle choice has nothing to do with killing ppl. They are ppl FIRST regardless of the personal choices the individual makes.
Why don’t transgender female impersonate respectable women with respectable lifestyles. Any transgender females just work a regular job and stay home at night with a good movie or book?
Big Freeda alright?…..
They think lying is passing for a real woman.
I think there is miscommunication on this topic. I think what you are saying is when others discover the men are with a transgender the men kill out of shame of being found out he’s with a transgender. Not that they kill because they find out the transgenderism not a real woman. It’s OBVIOUS these are not real women.
If you look like James Brown’s corpse wearing a dollar store wig… you aren’t transgendered… you’re a tragedy!
Those tranny be down there robbing people and tricking men this is not a surprise
“Straight” men are killing these transgenders out of shame and embarrassment of their own desires for transgenders.
Literally ? ????
Literally ? ????
The labeling is what segregates things. Murder is murder and should be treated with the same level of urgency. But what evidence is there to prove that they provide less attention to transgender murders than non transgender murders? Maybe there is bias for prostitution and drug related crimes than those that do not involve prostitution and drugs.
The labeling is what segregates things. Murder is murder and should be treated with the same level of urgency. But what evidence is there to prove that they provide less attention to transgender murders than non transgender murders? Maybe there is bias for prostitution and drug related crimes than those that do not involve prostitution and drugs.
And these isolated incidents don’t help the cause at all.
And these isolated incidents don’t help the cause at all.
The one in the middle favors Toya Wright
Just saying
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The one in the middle favors Toya Wright
Just saying
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New Orleans is a real seedy city I don’t know why people flock over there
New Orleans is a real seedy city I don’t know why people flock over there
No its not. I’m less than an hour away and there all the time. Have you ever been? Apparently not!
No its not. I’m less than an hour away and there all the time. Have you ever been? Apparently not!
Not if you have been begging for it.
Not if you have been begging for it.
Men who solicit sex are sociopaths and view people as objects. It’s not a surprise they kill people they see as a product. Women should not date or marry men who they know have solicited sex.
When you give up your education in exchange for a life of playing dress up and turning tricks, sh/t’s gonna happen.
Well my use to be transgender neighbor was a stay at home. And she grew some nice flowers on her porch. Kept a nice place. But when she and her male boo would go to blows, it was two men fighting. Needless to say, Cobb County popo ran that mess out of our neighborhood.
I loved how mom tried to close the door at the end.
And the one to the far right favors Adrien Broner…ijs
lol….I was right there with you. Ben sitting in the same spot, on the couch since I got home 3 hours ago. Want a beer, but too lazy to get it.
I need a drink!
lol ? really @ Adrian Bronner?
that looks like that might be the nanny
?? TGIF
I saw that … he probably had a lot more victims too.
Pour me a double.
New Orleans is among the most beautiful cities in the US, possibly the world. But New Orleans is indeed a seedy city.
This is horrible
Oh my God, I can’t!!
Maybe there not being honest? Maybe it’s someone who hates this behavior ? SHrugs
They’re just like anyone else. You have some that do and some that don’t. I know quite a few who have “regular jobs” and “stay at home at night”. I guess it would depend on the circle that one is around.
You think that strip is not seedy? I have been several times and saw a person get stabbed on burbon street, been to bayou classic and just on vacations that place is AWFUL
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Transgender sex workers play a dangerous game. Some of them look like women and they don’t tell their johns that they aren’t. They know how to fold their junk like it’s a vajay-jay and they trick for the money. But if they mess with the wrong man…they end up like Venus from the movie, Paris Is Burning. It is what it is.
They have to hustle to pay for the surgeries, clothes, wigs, makeup. This make believe image they have of women in their heads.
Now THAT’S way off base to say Transsexuals DON’T date gay men. They do. That is not the same thing and a huge misconception. ALL of the transsexuals I have EVER met date/marry “hunky” dudes…who like the appearance of a woman…with a penis. MOST M transsexuals date, you guessed it, men because they like men. There are those trans who identify as lesbian and date lesbian, but THAT is another ENTIRELY different story, but it exists.
To think transsexuals and gay men are the same is to think the appearance and feelings are the same. Every gay man does not wear a dress and “feel” like a woman when they wake up each day. There are many gay men who are VERY masculine and wouldn’t give a woman with a chacha the time of day. They like bussy. ?
Men hate when real women put them on blast when they’re paying for sex. I would imagine finding out that Alexia was actually Alex makes the situation worse.
Where can I find this? Did you see the one about the staten island killer? Its similar, all victims were prostitutes, call girls, escorts…
It’s silly to me when I c transgendered women and it’s like do you really think this is how women act, look, dress? It sickens me that they can just get a boob job, put on a dress and makeup keep their penis and say they’re a woman…
Use to be transgendered? ?
It’s usually because it’s hard for police to track every person a sex worker was in contact with given their profession and all and usually their family (if they have) cant help because 9 out of 10 times they can’t recall the last time they even saw their family member.
I was thinking the same. Females born females that live this lifestyle deal with the same things
That shat was funny ??? . The way lil girl walked in the room and the nanny was moving like she knew her job was on the line
That’s the wife girl!
PLEASE. TRANNIES WANT TO PRETEND TO BE WOMEN SO THEY GET TREATED LIKE WOMEN – MURDERED BY MALES! – IS THIS A RHETORICAL QUESTION??
BIO BLACK WOMEN KILLED BY MEN EVERY DAY, SOUND OF CRICKETS SO WHAT MAKES THE DEATH OF A BLACK MALE FEMALE IMPERSONATOR MORE SPECIAL THAN THE DEATH OF A BIOLOGICAL WOMAN???
My condolences to their families. I know it may be too soon, but that first pic looks like an exaggerated Kandi Burress. #forgiveme
I was thinking Orlando Brown.
and sissy nobby?!
I really dont care. This whole ordeal seem preventable. You mean to tell me all these men have to do is stop wearing wigs and dresses they can live? A wig and a dress isn’t worth dying for.
This is a sad story. I’m sure their family and friends are heartbroken.
That said, no one was tricked by those three. The one in the middle has a little femininity, but the two bookends couldn’t fool Stevie Wonder…?
Lawd…lol. Now you know you are wrong for this comment.
Saw that. He killed himself in jail. He also dropped out of Morris Brown college, an HBCU. He was a mess.
The one in the red wig favors DMX ex wife, the one that was in Starter Wives reality show
Okay…. But it’s somewhat true.
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL!
Boys, men, chicks-with-dicks… it’s all good…
Shut yo dumb simple a s s up! You care b I t c h, it’s why you brought your dog a s s here to wish death on men in dresses and wigs. U know what happens when you’re as ugly as you are?
But your dumb a s s thinks it’s funny.
Read b I t C h, it helps
Just trying to figure out how
negus got time to kill innocent trannies but wont take the time to make it to florida to kill George Zimmerman
Good point…lol. Blame it on Friday Brain Fart Syndrome.
Innocent? They are hookers! but no one deserves death
Excellent point.
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If i cared I wouldn’t have said what I said. Sorry poo
You are so angry by a logical statement I made, that tickles me. I just cant stop giggling.
Smh!! ?
The one in the middle looks like Rudy Huxtable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Travis you talking about this guy?
Their looks killed them
I saw the documentary on YouTube. Idk if it’s still on there.
What’s sad is that if a person wants to get away with murder, all they have to do is kill Black female prostitutes. Those are almost 85% likely to become cold cases.
I agree. People need to stop being so stupid and judgmental. That story that’s also in the news about the ex por n star that was almost beaten to death by her insane boyfriend is also bothering me. Everyone is trying act like she asked for that beating, nobody asks to beaten to a bloody pulp just like these trans women are “asking” to be murdered.
What the hell was logical about your statement?
Nah. Even without wigs, we’re being killed. I really believe you typed this to get some attention, because you can’t be that simple-minded. Nice troll job.
This story says transgender meaning dresses and wigs
the ppl who uprooted the comment understand the logical statement I made. If you cant figure it out oh well re-read it
Gurl what the fukkc are you talking about. This is the reason. It’s bitches like you that keep me feeling that way I feel. I know what it is thats why I said “somewhat true” you need to read before you open your fukkc’n mouth it’s not all gay people or activist that are like you, but the ones that are, I hate. Always trying to say something cute, and ain’t saying S.H.I.T.
Yes, this dead mfoker.
Soo sad ?. Murder is a horrible thing
Hello !
I’m pretty sure that they tricked a heterosexual guy or wanted to get in the ladies room..either way this was bound to happen..
Why on earth would I want to read that hateful comment again. You’re basically saying these trans women deserved it because they were living their lives.
Story isn’t getting any attention because they’re black not because they’re trannies.
Story isn’t getting any attention because many of you don’t even consider trans people humans. Are you done calling them He/It yet? Maybe when you stop and you actually think of them as equal creatures of God deserving of the sane equal love Jesus spoke about then maybe…the murderers won’t think they’re killing animals but rather human beings and 9 months of pregnancies of mothers next time around. Save your pity party bunch of hypocrites!
bish if I wanted to say they deserved it, I would’ve said they deserved it. why do black women always put words in ppl mouth??? I said one thing, I made myself very clear and you turn around and say I said something completely different. lol something wrong with you.
like I said dying for a wig and a dress isn’t worth it.
I am not gonna die for a wig and a dress and I am a woman.
Are you saying they are being killed for their lifestyle choice? Meaning they don’t HAVE to dress as women and place themselves in danger? Transgender is a dangerous lifestyle choice. However, no one wishes heinous crimes on fellow human beings.
please stfu…..
so you brought my point home. A wig and dress is a choice so its not worth dying for. I will repeat this again where in any of my statements did I say I wished anyone was murdered???? stop with the weirdness.
Oooops.
the people that need to pay attention are the police …. they are the ones that INVESTIGATE homicide … It is their job to investigate these murders.. it is also the job of the people that the person has in their lives to REPORT if a person is missing and possible suspects … I do believe people SHOULD be more accepting and compassionate of people being “different ” than they are … but the reason these murders are not being solved is because people are not doing jobs that they have been HIRED to do .. there are so many solved murders that we don’t hear about on the news. So not every crime needs national attention for it to be “worked on ” …
AND THEY’RE NOT. Typically it’s fatherless males and mammies who talk like you.
Youu could never look good asko
Have youseen yourselff
If they are prostitutes, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKED AT SERIOUSLY. Period.
People believe, if you place yourself in a high risk situation, do not be surprised by what happens to you.
This is bad. This is very bad on so many different levels.
Say what?!
Sweetheart I am a social worker for a living and most trans women only turn to sex because everyday society won’t give them a regular job. They judge them based on their appearance, I know it’s so easy for many jerks and ignorant people to just say well all they have to do is take off their wigs and put some pants on but I’m sure you know it’s not that simple right? Thank you for your input love.
Sweetheart I am a social worker for a living and most trans women only turn to sex because everyday society won’t give them a regular job. They judge them based on their appearance, I know it’s so easy for many jerks and ignorant people to just say well all they have to do is take off their wigs and put some pants on but I’m sure you know it’s not that simple right? Thank you for your input love.
Sweetheart, I earned my MSW in the 90’s and have worked with an array of populations. When you are a prostitute, you are not respected. Period. That is reality. Denial does not change it.
Did I state, that other factors do not exist? NO. I was speaking specifically about the prostitution.
I’m wondering is the assailants knew they were men up front.
that talk like me ? … I said one sentence and I’m CORRECT … everyone’s murder SHOULD be taken seriously … not sure how to interpret the meaning of your statement lol
Sorry doesn’t look anything like Keshia Knight Pulliam
So he was married to a dude too?