Rev Jasper Williams

A nephew of the late soul singer Aretha Franklin said the Franklin family did not approve of the eulogy given by Rev. Jasper W. Williams, Jr. at Aretha's star-studded, 8-hour funeral in Detroit on August 31.

Rev. Williams, pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, knocked the Black Lives Matter movement which led demonstrations around the country in 2016 to protest white cops shooting unarmed Black men.

“Black lives must not matter until black people start respecting black lives and stop killing ourselves," Williams said in an obvious reference to the thousands of unsolved murders of Black people in Chicago alone.

Williams also called for Black men to stop abandoning their families, saying women can't raise boys to be men.

He called children raised in single mother households "abortion after birth".

The controversy caused more grief for the Franklin family.

“He spoke for 50 minutes and at no time did he properly eulogize her,” said Vaughn Franklin, the late singer’s nephew, who spoke for the entire family.

Vaughn said Aretha never asked Williams to eulogize her nor did she plan her own funeral arrangements, as was widely reported.

Vaughn said the pastor's eulogy “caught the entire family off guard,” and the eulogy was not discussed in advance. “It has been very, very distasteful,” he said, adding that his aunt Aretha was a single mother who raised 4 boys to adulthood.

But Rev. Williams did not back down in the face of controversy. “I understand it,” he said of the family's response. “I regret it. But I’m sorry they feel that way.”

A spokesperson said the Franklin family asked Williams to speak because he gave the eulogy at the funeral of Aretha's father C.L. Williams, 34 years ago.

Williams, who said, “there are not fathers in the home no more”, hopes the message in his eulogy will spark debate and create dialogue where there was none before.

Single motherhood and black-on-black crime are still taboo subjects in the Black community.

 

  • Bashi22

    Don't the family review the eulogy before hand i'm just asking. Being that Aretha Franklin is an American treasure through the arts. I don't get is . Maybe Rev Jasper Williams go off tangent.

  • She.Is.Not.Ready

    Well single family households are a plague to the black community however a funeral is neither the time nor place to try to solve the problem.

  • Soda

    It wasn't the time or place for that. He used Aretha's funeral to showcase his rant and he should have been swept from the stage like a bad contestant on Showtime At The Apollo.

  • Rainbowbelow

    I don't think they know what a person is going to say beforehand but a funeral is not the place to talk about things like that.

  • Dr. P

    Distasteful, absolutely, as was the marathon service they had for her. I'm sorry, I would have interrupted him, as nicely as possible and asked if he would please speak on my deceased loved one. I would not have allowed him to continue speaking on politics and using this time to get "his moment"

  • Kimocha

    “Black lives must not matter until black people start respecting black lives and stop killing ourselves"......... Well I DO believe this statement is true.... However.... The man SHOULD have said SOMETHING about the Queen.... but he didn't say a damn thing about her.... I do question his motives....

  • Rayne

    I thought the family had to approve stuff like this. When my brother died we did ????

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Charlatans .... Point blank ...

  • bran

    On one end, was that really the proper platform...but on the OTHER end, where is the lie? #libra

  • jazmine

    Why they aint just get up there and tell him to stfu?

  • PhillyFacts

    These preachers always doing too much, not use to no spotlight and when they get the opportunity they do too much. School us on another day, that day just wasn't the day....

  • Karen Brady

    :-).. teee heeee

  • Soda

    ... at Aretha’s star-studded, 8-hour funeral in Detroit on August 31.https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/704b68d4bb9a639be0561db38b615d3b0e5ceff6e2c45d4228b34fe20629dcc0.png
    Guess Chuck didn't have a Love Connection!

  • Karen Brady

    Right!!

  • sherri2016

    Their are white single mother's Black people kill Black people White people kill whites Asians kill asians that still doesn't mean cops should kill us

  • Alextra Ballard

    Umma call this like I see it...A Hot Ass Mess! Let the controversies continue. First you got Bishop Ellis groping and tryna molest folks in the pulpit, now this nugga using the pulpit for his own political agenda. It saddens me because ReRe and her family deserved more than they got.I am glad that the family has acknowledge that they are displeased. Everybody was focused on themselves instead of The Queen.

  • Mama Dee’s Wig Maker

    They probably did and he got up there and changed the script

  • Rainbowbelow

    One of my grandma's friends decided she wanted perform her one woman act at her funeral. It had nothing to do with my grandma, but we were so stunned that we just let her finish and have her moment.

  • Karen Brady

    I thought family reviews the eulogy w/ clergy, gives input, etc. beforehand. Oh well. She's at rest now. This man is being berated for his 'eulogy', another man is being berated for knowingly molesting naked Arianna, Chaka's being berated for reading lyrics from her fan.. good Lord, poor Aretha.

  • Bashi22

    Another note the pastor did have some great points for the black family. Yes we are going to say it's not the place to talk about these thing. However that funeral had some much politricking innuendo for the other so call black leader. Black man need to rise up and start support their kids more.

  • Bashi22

    Cannot please people

  • Karen Brady

    *chuckles* I like it :-)

  • WhoKnew

    My mother raised 4 black sons by herself as a single mother and none are in jail or on drugs. On average they have each been on their respective jobs for over 15 years so Pastor needs to take several pew seats.

  • Peace

    R.I.P. QUEEN. Now, Ms. Franklin family knew she was ill for a very long time. They should have preplanned her services better.
    So Eric Dyson and Al Sharpton can get political and bash Trump over her and get applause and the Eulogist has to wait 7 hours before he spoke while listening to thus foolishness.
    Dr. Williams had to set them black folk straight. Too many singers and not enough about her life.

    There were some beautiful pics, vintage videos of her throughout her career they could have used instead of the live performances.
    She really was beautiful, gifted just a Wonder at her craft!

    This funeral as in any live event had its moments. Even the journey to her final resting place people were loud and disrespectful.

    Hopefully her movie will do her justice.
    But I am over the Moon listening to all her Golden hits. They never get old.

  • Stan4NoOne

    He tried it with his Jiminy Cricket looking a**.

  • Luv Pitties

    Vaughn, please stfu and go away quietly. You are THAT family member who has to make sure you “break the news” publicly and are probably the unofficial family spokesperson. I am sure the family has spoken to you before about this role you have taken on but as usual it fell on deaf ears because it has to be about you.

    If you or the rest of the family are unhappy about how Dr. Williams’ eulogized your aunt your family could have very well stopped it before it began-PRIVATELY and that is exactly how you can discuss your concerns with how he eulogized your aunt-PRIVATELY.

    Please find a way to follow in your late aunt’s footsteps and have some tact. Goodbye.

  • dontgetblocked

    John McCain had his funeral and it was portrayed as a celebration of life. Aretha Franklin's funeral has sparked nothing but controversy which targets black preachers! I don't even make it to church every Sunday but I'm starting to think that there is some sort of conspiracy going on.

    ***Can we as black people simply celebrate the life and contributions of the Queen of Soul? Her passing is being overshadowed by a lack of a will; Ariana Grande's short skirt; the alleged and groping of Ariana who shouldn't have been there anyway; the pastor's authentic and true criticism of the black race. And now the family is complaining. I'm sick of it.

    RIH Aretha! Let's move on!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Given Aretha's 'situation' his commentary was inappropriate.

  • dontgetblocked

    This is a bad look for the family. McCain didn't want President Trump at his funeral. The appropriate arrangements were made. The family knows what kind of preacher Dr. Williams is. Yet he was invited to speak. Thank him for participating and it keep it moving.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Why are you posting what that racist POS had to say?

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile Aretha saw that shyt show.... knowing damn well. . . Chile ..... that was a queen and instead these ain't shyt folks thought her funeral was a showcase ... typical in the church house I ain't shocked... tis why I want step foot in there ... my uncle passed last week his funeral will be graveside thank God because had it been in the church house. .. I would politely drive my azz straight to the cemetery .... Bunch of sick (spiritually sick)people in the church house... a hospital full of sick people with open wounds. . you will only get spiritually sicker in there ... how can the sick heal the sick. .. a doctor with open sores operating on you.... shid fugg around and catch some entities in there if your spirit ain't healthy to begin with. it's a haven of wounds in there smh

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Since Aretha was a mother at 12 no the comments weren't appropriate.

  • Elevated Soul

    Pastor Jasper Williams said what needed to be said. According to what I have read,he and Miss Aretha were friends for decades. They actually went over the eulogy, so he was speaking for her.

    I feel that the funeral should not have been politicized as it was especially through the poverty pimps Sharpton & Dyson and I bet the nephew thought what they said was okay as did many Blacks who criticize Pastor Williams. Both poverty pimps are nothing but gatekeepers to the Democratic Plantation and they serve no purpose except to enrich their pockets and keep Blacks in limbo.

    Pastor Williams told the hellafied truth and he was in church preaching what Blacks need to hear instead of what they want to hear. I realize that some Black women raise their male children well,but too many are not. Either they go to jail or turn into a sisssy or perhaps they become multiple baby daddies just like the women become baby momma's. Pastor Williams also preached that Black people have gotten away from God. Everything he said was the truth but Blacks with the liberal mindset have been conditioned to reject personal accountability.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    and yes I'm sure the family knew of the Eulogy ... But a showboating pastor on live TV who is ego driven of course will spin it for flare .... I ain't blaming the family at all. .. this is common damn sense .... just like Clark sistes got there showboating azzes up there screaming and hollering with no anointing in that song by the way.. . you know why because their damn ego took flight and made a damn mess of the song .. The ones that were genuine and sincere sounded good.. . this shyt is obvious now... Blaming the family for these Charlatans chile. .. They were there to mourn ... It's no shocker these clowns tried to show each other up.. . Cause why... Folks is watching ... This eulogy gone get the people talking. . ??... What happened was things was revealed to people... Full display .... Now the sleep would fall for the BS ... But come on now... Oh by the way.... It's mask off season ... Get ready for more fugg shyt in the Chuch since folks want to ignore and it will disgust and hurt people.. Sad to... Folks go to the chuch (the genuine) for spiritual healing. .. But majority in there trying to show up the next... And that was displayed .... Completely took the attention away from Aretha knowing damn well Aretha don't get down like that. . At least show that respect when she resting right in front of ya but instead we got demon city up through there

  • millz

    Maaaannn my grandfather died... his funeral is Saturday... I told my mom we driving in for the funeral and we out... probably won’t do the repast depending on how the funeral goes... I won’t be having no damn reunions at a funeral with people who live in the same state... some less than 20 minutes away... ? I hate fake folks... especially during a time like this!!!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile I'm riding with my parents ... I feel ya unfortunately I have to deal with the repass ... Shyt is intense right now... Because all kind of shyt has come out his daughter stealing money and a host of Other shyt ... Staying out of it.. Ima fix my plate take my azz on my aunt porch and stay clean the fugg back.. . Shyt hits the fan when folks die lawd sending love to your family and strength ?

  • cpatterson_22

    Children have no control over their fathers staying in the home, so how does something that you have no control over determine your entire life?

  • Quitedeliteful

    a showboating pastor on live TV who is ego driven
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This sums him up completely...

  • sunni_daze

    He needs to glue himself to seat and stfu entirely.

  • bella28498 .

    Don’t care glad it’s over

  • millz

    Ima have a flask and a my sneak and smoke ?????? my mom not with the ? either... growing up I used to question why she was so “antisocial” as an adult I now know...
    Jennie keep your energy strong and positive! ???

  • cherrypie

    Yep. This man clearly had his own agenda and it wasnt to honor Aretha. He knew the world was watching. Its a shame too because the message was on point but the setting was totally disrespectful and inappropriate to Aretha and her family.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Well y’all was the ones that invited him soooo. This to much

  • Fire & Ice

    I thought I was the only one who felt that way about the Clark sisters. Ugh all they do is scream and holla. The pastor was out of line. Ms. Franklin's funeral was not the time or place for his rant!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Well damn!!!

  • KLove

    Ummmm....so they disapproved of what Williams said, but of course they were A-OK with what Al and Dyson had to say, even though both were of a political nature.....got it! I knew it was gonna get politicized as soon as I saw who was up there on the pulpit.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    A lot of folks was showing out... Mess

  • Quitedeliteful

    Pimping Pastor Williams should have kept his remarks focused on Aretha Franklin -- who herself was a single mother. If he wanted to comment on the state of Black Families that's all well and good but his remarks were not appropriate for the occasion and should have been saved for an event which focuses on problems facing Black Families and the solutions that are needed. Just because the family asked him to speak doesn't give him license to go off on an inappropriate rant -- and this negroidian's response is basically 'I said what I said.' No bueno...

  • cherrypie

    The Clark Sistes were soooooo extra. I was like really????

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile I will be having a smoke ... Chile .. Much love ????

  • Whiplash(lacejagger)

    There’s are no lies to what he said... just shouldn’t have been said during the eulogy.
    Didn’t McCain’s funeral turn into snarky political remarks too?

  • kimberly

    Really several people sitting on the stage thought her funeral was a time to discuss Trump craziness. This was a funeral for them to discuss her not politics. If that wasn't enough you had singers trying to out do others , sounding a hot mess.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Thats the problem with these clout chasin preachers...all they know how to do is talk about themselves and their beliefs when the funeral or the service should have been about the person deceased...same thing happened at my grandmas funeral she was a member of a church for about 2 years before she passed and the preachers came up there and talked about himself...he even got my grandma first name wrong...by minute 14 my cousins were ready to jump him...my uncle got up cut it short and let the rest of the family speak smh...Reverend whatshisname was pissed...

  • Quitedeliteful

    I agree. The message was better suited for a different event, not a funeral.

  • Quitedeliteful

    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!

  • Quitedeliteful

    all they do is scream and holla
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!!!

  • millz

    ???????????

  • Quitedeliteful

    Ima fix my plate take my azz on my aunt porch and stay clean the fugg back..
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!!!

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    They should have turned off his mic... with all the pomp and circumstance for Aretha they should have had Apollo's Sandman come out and take his azz smh...between him and Reverend Touch-a-tit all it my faith in brothas is gone...Im so sick of the narcissism...Aretha didn't deserve any of them speaking it was her day and they turned in into a damn soap opera...

  • Coffee1st

    I may be wrong, but didn’t Aretha overall plan this funeral herself? If she did, she knew exactly who was coming and what they were about. It felt like an extravaganza, a funeral fit for a Diva. No judgement, she like it then i love it.
    As far as the pastors eulogy.....where was the lie?? Could it be that he and Aretha discussed some of those topics and had mutual feelings about them? And if so, could it be that other than the celebrations of her legacy she also wanted her perspectives on some social issues that were near and dear to her to be included in the eulogy? We don’t know, but it’s worth considering.
    I personally feel like Farrakhan would have given the most sincere, well intentioned speech.

  • Coffee1st

    Pretty ucked up ain’t it?

  • Yui

    Anything new to talk about this morn?

  • Coffee1st

    They always extra though ?????

  • 88

    Instead of blk folks dealing with what was said they deflect and attack who said it.

  • Ladyshopper

    EXACTLY!!

  • Yui

    Yep.

  • Quitedeliteful

    When my brother died my other brother got on the mic and was gonna turn it into a foot stomping shyt show. We only had the venue for a few hours and he wanted to waste precious time bullshytting on stage -- meanwhile he's the type of man that has the bible in one hand while swinging his dyck in the other. Not only did I turn off his mic in front of everybody, I told his very quietly and nicely to get the fugg off the stage. All proceeded peacefully after that...

  • 88

    It's not about just you it's about blk folks as a nation.

  • Soda

    1. Because some people don't know that he's a trump supporting racist.
    2. Because I wanted to.

  • Coffee1st

    Stiffnecked I tell ya!

  • Quitedeliteful

    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!!!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Staying out of it ... Because man... His daughter been stealing... And folks is on 10 right now.... I already know one wrong word will set some shyt off SMH.... Sitting on the porch and smoke a blunt by my damn self... Hell I might take my azz for a walk a smoke in the low... I ain't got time ?

  • PhillyFacts

    LOL!!! A subtle reality check is all that's needed sometimes to shut em down.. Good for you!

  • FukkFolks2018

    McCain's funeral was the time for political remarks bc last I checked he croaked as a politician. Aretha managed to die as a singer. They could have touched on the political a little as far as her civil rights ties...and moved on along. Gonna sit up here and down on single motherhood when she was one of the most famous single young moms ever. Like dude. The products of her single motherhood are sitting here. They can HEAR you. Their SINGLE MAMA JUST DIED. Show some decorum.

  • Quitedeliteful

    Your Uncle did the right thing... Preacher Man is lucky my daddy wasn't there. When my Aunt died and the Preacher Man was going off on a long rant my father yelled from the back of the church: OH LAWD!! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT EVERYONE IS TIRED AND YOU GOING ON AND ON??? WE ALL ABOUT TO FALL OVER!! Needless to say, the Preacher Man quickly finished his sermon. LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!!

  • nekkkyj

    What he said was true maybe not the right place and time for some people but funerals are the only time you can get people together

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    "He called children raised in single mother households “abortion after birth”"
    ----
    I was raised by a single mother and I think I turned out pretty well. I find this man's comments repulsive and ignorant.

  • Nunya Business

    Sandra's write up stated that Aretha did not plan her own funeral contrary to what was reported in the media that she did. This pastor was selected because he gave the eulogy at her father, Rev. C.L. Franklin's funeral 34 years ago.

  • PhillyFacts

    Black folks have been dealing with what was said on a daily basis; this was a funeral not a lecture.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Thank you. It's about time and place. There's a time and place for everthing. A euology is a time to honor the dead, not to push your social/political views or agenda.

  • EasyBreezy

    I do not disagree with the sermon topics. However, a homegoing celebration was positively, absolutely, unequivocally not the place for that (type of) sermon. It feels like the advantage was the Pastor's to take- and sadly, he did just that. He delivers a highly controversial list of personal political opinions via the national media attention the Queen's homegoing provided. Trying to get a seat at Trump's "Black table of pastors," much? Disgraceful. Insulting. Inconsiderate. Rude. Opportunistic.

  • 88

    Listening is imperative to getting an understanding. Williams said absolutely nothing that put down singles mothers. Aretha was married twice for three decades she was not nor in anyway a spokeswoman for single mothers.

  • FukkFolks2018

    It wasnt the time or place.

  • 88

    It's always a time and place for the truth.

  • Quitedeliteful

    Once you have a nice puff or two all will be right with the world and it won't matter what's going on with them folks. You can choose your friends but not your family...

  • the guest

    Not appropriate for a Eulogy.

    But everything he said is PAINFULLY true.

    Single motherhood is wrong. Hold men accountable for marital, family, and child desertion. Single motherhood IS a father aborting a child after birth. Single motherhood should NOT be accepted and expected as the norm in black communities. Surviving, overcoming, and succeeding in single motherhood is noble, valiant, and commendable but that does not negate the fact that women left alone with the full burden of parenting UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE is wrong. Children are born of a mother and father and children are not discardable.

    Aretha Franklin is an extraordinary exception, a miraculous and genius exception to the overwhelming detrimental plight and statistics of black single mothers. We love Aretha Franklin, but no 14 year old black girl should experience having and raising two children. Rest In Peace.

    Black people MUST stop sabotaging, scheming on, envying, hating, cheating on, stealing from, condescending, insulting, wishing bad on, killing, threatening, murdering, breaking the spirit, and ruining the promise, lives, success, opportunity and potential of other black people. Black people cause the genocide of black people more than anyone else.

    The Reverend was right, however, a eulogy was not the proper platform. But black people are so silenced, marginalized, unheard, that we at times take and use the platforms we get to make heard what desperately needs to be heard.

  • 88

    Blacks folks ain't been dealing with nothing ppl in here talking about they should have cut his mic off yall dont wanna hear the truth nor deal with it.

  • Nunya Business

    I think they were more so upset with the fact that he talked about single mothers in a negative way when Aretha herself was a single mother. No one would ever promote single parenthood because it's not an ideal situation, however if you're going to give a eulogy of someone who was a single mother herself, you probably should use another event to discuss single parenthood in a negative way.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Aretha was no spokesperson but it was widely known she was a teen mom. She birthed at 12-13 years old. She was NOT married for 3 decades. Married total around 12 years. The rest of the time put her as a single mom.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Well then I hope the truth is told and your family isnt offended at one of your loved ones funeral then 88. THIS family said they were OFFENDED. Who are YOU to say they shouldnt be? If they want to deflect and attack who said it...its their right. Their matriarch is dead.

  • FukkFolks2018

    At their matriarch's funeral? You really sitting your silly minded ass up here and think ANY lesson can be taught and absorbed during the time of IMMENSE grief?

  • morenYAHdelsur

    “Black lives must not matter until black people start respecting black lives and stop killing ourselves,”

    My rebuttal to this is: Do we say nothing because of this? He’s essentially saying do and say nothing because as a whole we don’t have it together.

    It’s silly to think we shouldn’t say chit because a few of us wanna act an ass. It’s also unrealistic ????? Idc what he says! BLM! That can be in regards to white folks and other black folks!

  • 88

    It ain't about what you or the family wants or feels it's about what Aretha requested and that's who she requested if you dont like it too bad.

  • SweetTEE

    There's a time and place for everything. I understand that this message was on his heart, but I'm sure the Lord did not tell him to spread this message at that particular time. He wanted to be heard by the masses, period.

  • the guest

    where was the lie??

    AMEN.

    Aretha Franklin was a strong woman and mother but she never hid that fact that the men she loved broke her heart, abandoned her, and failed her and her children. I know even though she was successful and wealthy and famous and respected, she would have preferred to not have been a single mother and desfinitely did not wish for single motherhood to be the standard in the black community.

  • FukkFolks2018

    I am pretty sure she didnt request for him to bring his ass up there and make her FAMILY feel bad. He was supposed to do a eulogy. Not a lecture on the state of black America! His ass should have DONE different. I said wtf I said.

  • EasyBreezy

    Yes, it did turn into snarky political remarks. However, that was precisely the fight McCain lead. It was acknowledged. His character was compared to the current administration. It represented what he fought for. Appropriate due to nature of McCain's legacy. Not at the Queen's homegoing, though. No. No. No.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    His comments are not true of all black folks. Some. So because the some can’t get their chit together I’m not supposed to say anything, do anything, feel anything about the plethora of injustices committed against us as a whole?

  • morenYAHdelsur

    She didn’t request this LOL.

  • the guest

    McCains funeral was also used as a platform for people white and black to criticize Trump.

  • 88

    You are not in the know you are a silly overzealous fan who is over stepping ya bounds. Mind ya business

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Aretha was actually friends with Dyson.

  • Tiffany Miller

    He generalized too much. You are an exception. Not all single mothers are strong enough to handle it all. His church is based on the Westside of Atlanta and based on his experiences.

  • the guest

    Paternal desertion and abandonment is shameful and embarrassing for children. It is an injustice and blemish on the child’s reputation and standing in the world. Fathers desert their child to spite the children and the mother of children. Fathers who desert their familes, without question, want their children to fail in life.

  • FukkFolks2018

    A 7 hour televised funeral is everyone who watched it biz. Im sorry. They made it all of America's and some of Canada's damn biz (I know they get Detroit's broadcasts in certain parts of Canada)

  • SpiceGirl

    He knew ALL eyes was on HIM....so of course IMHO...he had to play the part....Which was the wrong placetime if you ask me

  • PhillyFacts

    If people are experiencing what he's talking about, then their dealing with it on a daily basis. A funeral is not the place to bring attention to issues plaguing multiple races, however we choose to keep saying blacks are the only ones killing each other in record numbers. Tell that to the white families who's children are being killed in record numbers from fentanyl trying to get high. More of them were killed by this drug last year here in Philly, than the number of blacks killed in Chicago to gun violence. Miss me with the "burdened blacks" bs every race has issues, and are killing each other ours is just televised more than others. Go back to sleep sir, I'm not into waking the dead.

  • 88

    You are the walking dead wtf cares about other races the conversation was about us. Sit in the correction and find a solution its simple. Stop making bullshyt excuses and deflecting.

  • davine puddin

    Maybe they felt slighted because she had 2 kids before she was 17. However his message wasnt a eulogy but a sermon

  • 88

    Ok that's fine now what you gone do about the crimes and injustices we commit against ourselves?

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Apparently, the concept of "there's a time and place for everything" doesnt mean much to you.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile say it ..... I will mosey my azz on down the road ...... stay in the love and talk to my ancestors and I will celebrate my uncle https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c9ebd790425544590f27517b16eff0125aff1954f9bca4ba420cf36b0c8d186.gif

  • FukkFolks2018

    Not shit

  • Ghost

    She did not leave any funeral arrangements nor will..smh. The family did everything .. they said they chose him Because he eulogized her father 34 years ago. It was not just the pastor...many of the speakers used the pulpit as their own platform. The funeral was too LONG and had too many people performing and speaking! You can’t please everybody....

  • FukkFolks2018

    Tell that to the white families who's children are being killed in record numbers from fentanyl trying to get high. More of them were killed by this drug last year here in Philly, than the number of blacks killed in Chicago to gun violence.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This.

  • Coffee1st

    I respect you alls perspectives. And i guess that’s what it all boils down to.
    She’s at rest now.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    WE don’t do these things LOL.

    I agree crime and parent-less households suck, so we should enlighten one another.

    However, still doesn’t mean I shouldn’t say, do, or feel a damn thing about injustices as a whole because Tyrone down the street is acting up!

  • Coffee1st

    What’s with all these celebrities here lately not leaving a will?

  • PhillyFacts

    The word is "overzealous", goodnight goofy... Nothing worst than an unintelligent comatose fool attempting to appear conscious.

  • 88

    It's always a time for truth and as Mr. Frederick Douglas said to suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I'm guessing here... but it kind of feels like a final "joke" some people do when they depart, since they know that money brings out the worst in people. Maybe they just figure they'll leave that stuff for all ther messy relatives to fight over and show their true colors.

  • 88

    Overzealous is not a conscious word its English.

  • free

    i was confused because was he shading her father? he was all over the place. conversely, according to his logic, a black man cannot not raise a black woman. then he went to aretha's pastor pappy having her singing the blues after church. so was he saying she wasn't brought up right thus the kids and her life? i do agree with what he was saying about black on black crime but i think he misunderstood the BLM movement and the purpose for it.

  • 88

    Yall just love yall slave massas cant keep them out of the conversation for 5 mins.

  • Blue

    lol. Glue though? Hahahaha

  • TMW

    My thought also, especially with Aretha, who’d been sick for a while and had time to plan. I believe her “plan” was to let them duke it out.

    However, I think celebrities who die suddenly just simply think they have all the time in the world.

  • Yup, I said it

    I dont understand why people are more upset about the sermon than they are about that Bishop feeling on Arianas Grande. The whole thing was a mess.

  • sunni_daze

    Gorilla Glue

  • TMW

    I found this comment absolutely abhorrent. I think a LOT of single mothers do okay by their kids - we just always focus on the negative and never highlight the positive.

    I got my daughter through her teen years as a single parent. It was very difficult and not a choice as my husband passed away when she was 13. It was the most challenging experience of my life, but the kid, now 20 and a junior in college, turned out ok.

    I don’t believe many women actively plan to be single parents - unless they are tying to secure the bag, and then I don’t think they think it through.

    IMO, single moms (especially those raising sons) who are really trying and teachers are heroes.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Aretha had 2 babies before age 14. She also reportedly had an affair with her father. You be the judge.

  • FukkFolks2018

    I am a great multi tasker. So much so, that I am able to be pissed over both.And who? Who is upset more? The pastor groping Ariana made national news just like this did.

  • PhillyFacts

    I see you stand corrected my student and spelled it correctly this time. Job well done, class dismissed!

  • millz

    ???

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile pastors job is to heal not to demean ..... folks should feel safe in the so called church .... there should be no judements ..... and if ya gotta judge and haven't walked in those women shoes ... it comes off as insulting ... no minister should make their audience feel some kind of way when they in there stealing folks blind ..... Lebrick is more than the exception .... there are a lot of people that grew up in single homes .... what he highlighted was something dark .... tells everything I need to know ..... and insulted and spewed his dark ways as well ... I see clean through these pastors .... got more skeletons than a little bit ... but tell the congregation to clean themselves up.... when their very spirits (the pastors) are blocked up and poisoned with lust greed ... and perversions

  • 88

    So you wanna feel, say and do something when yt folks shoot you down but all you can say it sucks when we kill each other... sell hatred at it best.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile ... gotta stay in happy place ..... shewt be the light ya know .... I want wallow in mess ever ... I will get thee fugg on quick ..... cut on some tunes and listen to something uplifting rofl https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c22bbb0726b55780d5b8daabf5e7ff036f5e7db69467497fbef25caabddf4b73.gif

  • Renee Bee

    Condolences to you. Be strong.

  • Renee Bee

    So sorry for your loss, Jen. ((HUGS)).

  • Coffee1st

    Maybe so.
    However, my train of thought is - although i can’t take the money with me - it’s still money that I earned, that I worked for.
    Whether it be family, friends, charity, women’s shelters, scholarship foundations— I would assign that money somehere.
    Shoot, I know somebody somewhere could use it.

  • Blue

    I'm done hahahahA

  • KcoolMuziq

    Prince knew what he was doing. His family won't see a dime for YEARS!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Thank you bew ... My uncle suffered here .... he is now free ..... free .... and for that rejoice is to be had ..... https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3fed1aa979b59e05aa9fc5191b385362a3e258bb90139b61a295275fab20cdb.gif

  • Coffee1st

    But his family aren’t the only people he could have left it to.....?? i see you read my edited comment.
    I do it too...

  • KcoolMuziq

    "I think celebrities who die suddenly just simply think they have all the time in the world."

    Aretha didn't think or feel she was going anywhere. It's the reason she lasted fighting Pancreatic cancer so long. She was a STRONG woman

  • Coffee1st

    Fathers desert their child to spite the children and the mother of children
    ___________________
    My dad did. Treated us horribly, along with his wife, becuz his CS increased. My mom wasn’t even being vindictive. She initially asked for so little, the judge refused and increased it on his own.

  • Rayne

    What I was thinking. Did his own sermon.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Prince gave a LOT of his money away. Before his transitioning. Even with in the same week.

  • TheThrowbackBeauty

    The entirety of the last two paragraphs.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0e89e38d7a7afe28feb22b74b5855e03a196f1df98ef3d3bd87513e8d069ac5.gif

    What black community y’all been in for the last 40+ years?

    Now what’s always ignored is the economic oppression that is at the root of black on black violence and ALL violence for that matter. Let’s talk about that.

  • TMW

    She was a strong woman, but pancreatic cancer is the most deadly, untreatable form of cancer and almost always fatal at some point. I’m sure her doctors shared this with her. She made a choice not to draft a will, either because she thought she’d beat it, or knew she wouldn’t.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Uhh Isn't that what I just said?

  • 88

    Wtf? Delusional negress

  • TMW

    I didn’t get all that from your comment LOL, but yes ?

  • Sauvignon blanc and Weed?

    "Black people MUST stop sabotaging, scheming on, envying, hating, cheating on, stealing from, condescending, insulting, wishing bad on, killing, threatening, murdering, breaking the spirit, and ruining the promise, lives, success, opportunity and potential of other black people. Black people cause the genocide of black people more than anyone else"

    I agree a hundred with this part.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I'm sorry for your loss.

  • Coffee1st

    Still had a lot left tho

  • Karen Brady

    LOL.. I love it. Did the mic make that loud ass echo/screech/thump when you turned it off?

  • Dun Dilly

    Truth hurts, tho.

  • Blue

    They said Rev. Jasper is gonna be on Season 2 of Aretha's funeral.

  • TMW

    LMAO!

  • Quitedeliteful

    It did. LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!! I was not playing with him that day -- especially since he didn't help with the set up or the clean up.

  • TMW

    ??

  • EMILY POST

    What was wrong with his sermon? Was it untrue? The timing maybe for people who want you to BS them.
    Hit dogs are going to Hollar.....
    Black lives have to matter to black people first..... I always say that and its true...... LOL People upset cause he called some people out. Black people always get mad when you dont agree with their bad moves. You are suppose to always look the other way. You cant ignore the past but you also can not ignore the bad decision making that people make of the present. Ignoring it doesnt make it go away... Pretending its not there blaming everyone else for things you have control of. Micheal Eric Dyson speech was worse then this guys.

  • http://disqus.com/ yoliewinecorporation

    Rip!! A Franklin IMO the service was a disaster wasn’t organized a lot walking back and fourth. Just a mess

  • morenYAHdelsur

    You clearly missed the point. Have a great Tuesday.

  • KcoolMuziq

    ?

  • Solstice

    I am sorry for your loss Jen. ???

  • Solstice

    So sorry for your loss millz! ???

  • A D N

    I agree with his message, but to speak those words over the person who was a single mom was very disrespectful. This is what the family and critics are highlighting. It isn't a matter or debating the truth or untruth.

  • A D N

    Issues in the black community ref black on black violence is definitely a trickled down effect.

  • Solstice

    I was confused when he hit the pulpit. I remember thinking and commenting ? what is he talking about and what does this have to do with Aretha and her legacy??! I took a hit of my MM a few moments before and was wondering am I just really high? ?? Almost thought I bought the wrong strain. ? Wrong time and place though IMO ?

  • A D N

    Rev Jackson walked the most lol, but he has an excuse.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Yeah, because he couldn't get up out the chair

  • TMW

    ?

  • Li-Wright

    The planner should have made it clear to Everybody = you have a limited amount of time to sing and speak. Notice Farakhan didn't speak (thank god) because they know he would still be speaking today.
    Mr. Williams didn't get the memo. But I was watching his expression while the others performed and he was ANGRY. I kept saying, why is he so angry? And now I know why.

  • Li-Wright

    Not only that he was supposed to EULOGIZE Aretha! Not getting social-economic and political.

  • Solstice

    Exactly! Thank you! His message was not a eulogy for Ms. Franklin.

  • dontgetblocked

    I saw that. The two pastors had to help him. It was a struggle. Bless his heart.

  • dontgetblocked

    She was a single mom due to bad choices.She's a good example of why teens should wait to have sex. She had two children by 14. Let's not act like Aretha was an angel.

  • Li-Wright

    I'm guessing too. Aretha knew what she was doing. And here's what I'm thinking:
    a) She saw what happened to Ray Charles will, James Brown will, et al and saw that it didn't stop the family from fighting.
    b) She has a stash of cash money in a bank account or safety box and it's willed to someone. Everybody should have a pay on Death form at the bank, that prevents probate.
    c) She took care of her kids and grandkids and she didn't want to give anymore to them. We don't know how good those kids are; we know nothing about her children.
    However, at the LEAST she should have had a TRUST fund for her grandchildren. It only takes about $100,000 a tiny amount to setup a TRUST fund. That much she should have done.

  • dontgetblocked

    Why? Aretha was a socio-economic and political activist?

  • JENNYJONES1

    I HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY BAD,BAD SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSET B/C HE'LL BE THE NEXT BILL COSBY AKA YOUR DIRT IS OK AS LONG AS YOU AREN'T BRINGING LIGHT TO THE PLIGHT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT IGNITE GOOD CHANGE AND BLACK POWER.........JENNY JONES!!!!

  • Li-Wright

    If you read the book RESPECT, Aretha never went through with her plans. She had a lot of HIGH ideas that never fell through. For example, that supper club never got off the Ground. Even her movie. It's been languishing for 10-15 years because of Aretha.

  • Li-Wright

    ^^ I agree with this too. Denial. And I wonder if she stayed on course with her medications and exercise from that first surgery?

  • Li-Wright

    One last thing. When the IRS gets into her business, I bet there's going to be a lot of money and taxes owed to the Govt. Everybody should read "Deconstructing Sammy Davis" and the hell his family went through with the IRS when he died.

  • Li-Wright

    Isn't it strange that what Williams said is what Farakhan has been saying for about 40-50 years? But people always talk about his anti-Jewish remarks.

  • Guess Who

    Why was her funeral 8 hours long? 0_o

  • Li-Wright

    Jesse has Parkinson's and that probably had something to do with his reactions.

  • JENNYJONES1

    LISTEN PREACHERS ESP OLD BLACK PREACHERS DON'T JUST COME UP WITH NEW MATERIAL AT THE LAST MINUTE SO IT'S OBVIOUS THIS WAS THIS MAN'S NORMAL TYPE OF SERMON/CHURCH CONVO SO I BLAME ARETHA'S FAMILY FOR NOT TAKING 2-3 MINUTES TO YOUTUBE THIS MAN TO GET AN IDEA WHAT HE WOULD SAY IF THEY ASKED HIM TO SPEAK OR EULOGIZE HER. THEY WERE ALL ABOUT THE GLITZ, GLAMOUR AND HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE SPEAKING OR PERFORMING AT HER FUNERAL AND THEY WOULD BE TAKING SELFIES WITH SO JUST B/C HE EULOGIZED HER FATHER 34 YRS AGO DIDN'T MEAN HE WAS THE RIGHT PERSON TO SPEAK OR EULOGIZE HER FUNERAL. HISTORY BIT THEM IN THE ASS WITH THIS ONE.........JENNY JONES!!!!

  • Li-Wright
  • TMW

    Business ventures and estate planning aren’t the same thing to me. May check out the book with my next unused Audible credit - may be a good listen during the daily commute.

  • Li-Wright

    Jesse announced that he had Parkinson's last year. https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/health/jesse-jackson-parkinsons-bn/index.html

  • JENNYJONES1

    AHH YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN TO A BLACK CHURCH LATELY ESP ONE WITH AN OLD ASS PASTOR B/C YOUR THOSE HURT WHEN YOU LEAVE FROM THEM STEPPING ON THEM WITH THE TRUTH. LOL!!!.........JENNY JONES!!!!

  • dontgetblocked

    I think his focus is on teenage pregnancy and women who are just plain careless and repeatedly have children. No one is pointing the finger at widows or divorcees.

  • Miss Thang

    Because EVERYONE wanted to be on the program smh lol

  • JENNYJONES1

    WELL HE'S NO DIFFERENT THEN THE BLACK PREACHER AT HARRY AND MEAGAN'S WEDDING. HE ACTUALLY ADMITTED HE SAID THE THINGS HE SAID B/C OF HOW MANY PEOPLE'S ATTENTION HE HAD AT ONE TIME AND HE KNEW THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN FOR HIM. JASPER KNEW THE SAME THING WHICH IS HOW HE HAS ALL OF US TALKING RIGHT NOW........JENNY JONES!!!

  • Fire & Ice

    You know they do ????

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I raised my daughter, I Wouldn't say as a "Single Mother," But Mother. Because the male I chose was Not Responsible. So I took my role and had to accept a Double role, which Wasn't Easy!!! Now, I had all my degrees and was a certified teacher . The male had his degree and was a Lt. Colonel. So money was not a problem. I was not on ebt. But what money Couldn't buy was just as much significant in raising my child. However, long story short, she graduated from a well-known university with Honors. Now, if I had raised her with the Dysfunctional male, her father, that Would had been, "Abortion After Brith!!"

  • SpiceGirl

    true.....

  • Applebootay

    People upset cause he called some people out

    NO

    People upset and are ONLY UPSET because it was not an EULOGY it wasn't the right time or space for anything but to honor her name, NONE of which he did. no need to reach...I didn't care for Dyson's speech much either...

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    You are so right!!! My daughter graduated with honors from a top university. Because I was a Mother period. Being single Is Not Always By Choice Or A Handicap!!! We just do what we Have to do for the Love of Our Child!!! They Don't see being a single parent is taking the Duties of two full grown adults, if done correctly, Which should be Respected!!! Every One Can't Do It, not Even married couples or two-parent households.

  • Applebootay

    If she died giving her life for a socio-economic or as an political activist...then yes......but that's not why or how she died....It would've been more appropriate to talk about pancreatic cancer in the black community and the importance of health care maybe....what he did was inappropriate..and disrespectful...period

  • Applebootay

    Sounds like everyone is upset of the whole 6 hour show.

  • cherrypie

    True. They was doing the same thing back in the late 80's ?

  • RICHIE_RICH

    Preach some might think it was a lil harsh, but what he said applied to Aretha right? Our people love to cover up the past. Walk in your truth?????

  • Drea982

    It was supposed to be a eulogy and most eulogies hav something to do with the deceased person. Also referring to children being raised by single parents as being abortions after birth is distasteful, offensive, and just plain old retarded. Especially since the deceased was a single parent and her after birth abortions were sitting in the audience.

  • Karen Brady

    LOLLLLL *CRINE*. Damn shame

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    What this man said over that woman's body and over the heads of her family was DISGUSTING! Not one time while I watched McCain's funeral did I see ANYONE DESECRATE the dead and demean an ENTIRE family.

    The WHITE communities have problems too!!!!! BUT NEVER did any single person take away the dignity and respect from that man or family to make it about ANYTHING ELSE but HIM! If you agreed with this MESS well SHAME ON YOU!!!!

  • David Johnson

    I wonder what was the nature of his relationship with the family since the passing of Rev C.L. Franklin? He shaded the hell out of Rev Franklin within the first two mins.

  • David Johnson

    I was thinking when Bishop Ellis made the statement, "Aretha not dying in disgrace" he was referring to your comment.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Haven't stepped my azz in the Chuch in 5 years ... I know for a fact them Angels have been told not to step foot in there ..... in fact the angels wait when service ends and are waiting when they leave the building ..... Those were strict orders by God .... Angels don't come around fifthy spirited people that are there to keep folks away from God.... chile .... but when folks step out ... the true ones ... the ones that hold integrity they go right too ..... please believe I've seen it ...... the only and I do mean only exception is if someone needs protecting and comforting in homegoing services and even with that they (Angels) have had to pull back because the energy there is so toxic .... God been sick of the shyt .... told them to pull out of that place can't heal there ... point blank .... so technically safety is in jeporady there ... a shootout anything goes on there now .rape etc ...... ....

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Much love thanks bew .... send that love to my Aunts .... they bout to go ham on his daughter .... she done stole all the man's money and had the nerve to put him a way dirt cheap .... they hot chile hot ...... chile and I don't blame em if someone go upside this btych head and drag her I ain't even mad ..... cause man almost like she plotted his damn death intense sweet Lordt https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/51c6b3f7a6512ebaa1918af76267cbf3565dd650397e2957034187e652b8b8a3.gif

  • Guess Who

    SMMFH!

  • Patricia

    "Single motherhood and black-on-black crime are still taboo subjects in the Black community", and there you have it. nobody wants to talk about it. an 8 hour funeral? i would have switched it up, too lol

  • GuestSTAR

    Wasn't the right time or place. He should've saved it for his Sunday sermon. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3dd0165ab0e73f7b509b81cbc96a5cd8f9206cbee1341ff406c8f2ba36ac3607.jpg

  • EMILY POST

    You were offended by what he said okay but was he wrong.... did he say all single mothers? their are some good ones and their are also some very bad ones. It’s amazing to me how people try to protect parents that suck. Parenting skills equivalent to an abortion yep he is probably right on that 1. Some people need to be shamed if they even have the sense to have any. Some parents are horrible... single or not it’s like seriously ?......

    Anytime people question crap parents whether it’s bill Cosby a pastor etc everybody gets all in their feelings oh wells.. maybe not the best time or place for the sermon but was he wrong? If Aretha co-signed it then it needed to be said.
    It’s only controversial to blacks who want to appease everyone else.
    Micheal eric dyson speech or yet his Democratic Party speech what was he even talking about ... lol ? does anybody ever know what he is saying.. I tried to listen but he didn’t make any sense.

  • dontgetblocked

    70% of black children are born bastards. Somebody somewhere has to speak on it. I'm grateful he did.

  • EMILY POST

    Liberals want to see black culture dead ? and soulless. The soulless you can sell them anything....

  • Bee jaay Cee

    His eulogy was Ill timed. He probably was thinking about how great it would be to speak before such a great audience, and be on TV saying that crap.

  • dontgetblocked

    She was a black woman who experienced single motherhood, childhood pregnancy and sexual abuse, drug and alcohol abuse, domestic violence from her pimp husband, money issues, hell ...a fear of planes. Son sleeping with husband. Weight issues. Had a mentally handicapped child. She was a complicated woman. Lots of people die from cancer...no real lesson there.

  • brooks hill

    he spoke the truth. it may hurt but i agree with 90 percent of what he said.amen rev.let them know.

  • FoodDrugsBooks

    Aretha's first child was by her father who raped her.
    Why didn't he say anything about incest?

  • dontgetblocked

    I caught that too. However, Aretha had a drug and alcohol problem at one time. She was also married to a pimp. I wonder if the Bishop was referring to the fact that Aretha died with a healthy net worth and not broke like Whitney.

  • Judi Jupiter

    So I've heard the first kids were incestuous.

  • dontgetblocked

    That's why I said bless his heart.

  • BlackMenHATEBlackWomen

    This low life excuse for a man couldn't even put his lil ego aside for an hour! He embarrassed the black community in front of the world. He spoke against black women and said black lives don't matter.

    BLACK MEN HATE BLACK WOMEN....AND THEMSELVES!

    Our community has been ruined by black men for far too long. Ladies, you keep birthing these idiots, you are also to blame.They clearly don't have any home training.

  • BlackMenHATEBlackWomen

    Stop with the "whites do it too" mess. Whites have more power in this country and privileges that we don't. Comparing us to white people does nothing to help our own community!

  • FukkFolks2018
  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    All you could muster out of what I said was some mess about comparing us to white communities? SHAME ON YOU!

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    At least Jasper Williams got one thing right.....it's our own that we have to worry about hurting us and INDEED he hurt this family in front of the entire world.

  • T Willis

    Taboo indeed...

    Can’t wait to read the comments

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    The equivalent of Jasper Williams eulogy is that of a mass shooting. This thug got up in front of the whole world and shot down the entire black race! SMDH!

  • FukkFolks2018
  • Chuck

    I enjoyed the pastor’s sermon. Stop having these kids and not take care of them, period! Wait until you are married to give birth. Stop killing each other! Phuck you dumb bitches who say otherwise. Aretha is dead. So, it was fitting to preach to the living. Dumb fools

  • Chuck

    Agreed

  • HeyGirlHey

    There's a time a place for everything,and this was not the place for him to catch camera time to focus on him. How you turn someone's funeral into what you want to talk about?? That had nothing to do with Aretha Franklin. All because you want your 15 minutes of limelight.Everybody wants to be famous. And there's plenty of men who turned out great with a single mother. I know plenty of married couples with F@#$ up Kids!

  • Jamal Warner

    I do not agree. This is a misleading talking point that is only used to demonize melaninated people. Studies like the CDC 2016 study clearly shows that melaninated fathers are more active in their children lives than any other group, but this will not be highlighted because it does not fit the narrative of the unfit melaninated father.

  • Jamal Warner

    Because these topics are only used to demonize melaninated people. No one speaks of single white mothers with the same vitrol as single black mothers. It clearly shows a racial double standard only purpose is to undercut melaninated people efforts to overcome racism white supremacy.

  • Jamal Warner

    His purpose was to reprimand melaninated people in front of a white audience. It was not about uplifting melaninated people. Melaninated people will attack and throw our own kind under the bus. Yet, the same energy is lost on attacking and challenging racism white supremacy. Most of the problems that affect melaninated people are a direct result of white supremacy.

  • Jamal Warner

    He was wrong. The problem is not questioning "crap parents", but when and how one does it. He was doing it to garner favoritism with white folks, while throwing melaninated people under the bus. No one ever gets in front of a mainstream audience and shame white folks. Especially other white folks do not do it.

  • Jamal Warner

    The truth is that all melaninated people are victims of white supremacy.

  • Jamal Warner

    What was truthful about it.

  • Jamal Warner

    Exactly! No one speaks of the causation but the effects. No one speaks about white supremacy and the impact it has on melaninated people.

  • Jamal Warner

    No, he was wrong. Out of all you posted, you never mentioned racism white supremacy. Your post sounds as if you want to blame melaninated people for being victims of white supremacy. Your post totally ignore the role of white supremacy.

  • Jamal Warner

    No, instead of the minister addressing the causation of most melaninated people problems, which is white supremacy, he blamed the victims of white supremacy.

  • 90’sBawdy

    All skinfolk ain kinfolk

  • FukkFolks2018

    Why didnt he bring up the original 12 yo girl CL Franklin raped and impregnated as a married father of FIVE at HIS eulogy then? The same POS pastor did BOTH eulogies

  • Renee26

    Jasper azz just wanted a platform to bring attention to himself...those same negative comments are debated every damn day on the internet... They are THE go to responses of trolls across the nation... He just showed how much of a azzwipe he is

  • Dun Dilly

    If you have to ask ...

  • Renee26

    Ok...nor do they criticize the men of other races who abandon their children and families... We know that welfare, alimony, and spousal support came about to help yt women who were abandoned by their men NOT black women.

    People kill me singling out the black race in every aspect of negative behaviors

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    THANK YOU!!!!!!! He just wanted his master to know where he could place the handkerchief.

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    NOBODY seems to have caught Obama when HE spoke at McCain's funeral....stating that he was raised by a SINGLE MOTHER! I guess that doesn't count because his mom was white so I guess some of ya'll are saying ONLY black women are incapable of raising a black man. Yet you sit up there with your mouth poked out when Charlize Theron prances her little accessory around.

  • TheOwley

    It's never a good thing to get political at the funeral of someone who was of service to everyone. The Aretha and McCain funerals were hijacked by people who decided to use those events to further divide people. Agree or disagree, that is what happened. People need to be reminded funerals are not about you (us).

  • Jamal Warner

    I would like to know what part you found truthful. It seems like you don't have a rebuttal so you are deflecting.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Dead just dead!

  • Dun Dilly

    Not deflecting at all...just making an instinctive call. Whomever heard the Rev's Eulogy and was offended of it's content seems to be the same people who would never embrace any of the DATA that supports it.

  • TheThrowbackBeauty

    The hater taught hate that’s why we gang bangin. Did ANYONE hear Chuck D when he said that? Do people even know who Chuck D is??????????

  • TheThrowbackBeauty

    ?????? Thank you! I don’t go past Spring Garden on the EL because of the current “opioid crisis” in Philly. But we’re expected to sympathize with that while demonizing our own. Not gone do it.

  • 6ue$$imh8n

    He could have saved that for another place and another fucking time what the fuck does his opinions have to do with Arethas life?

  • speakinmymind

    ???

  • speakinmymind

    Ok we get it you THOUGHT you learned a new word, "melaninated". It's melanated.???

  • speakinmymind

    Get out Blue!???

  • speakinmymind

    Jamal please get a dictionary...

  • EMILY POST

    Of course people doing matrix bends... on that sermon.

  • Malcom Flex

    A broke clock is right twice a day I have no prob with what he said except he didn't mention the Queen much.

  • Malcom Flex

    Obama says that single mother mess but he had money connections a step father or two and a RICH, WHITE GRANDFATHER in his corner so no, it wasn't like a black single mother raising him.

  • the guest

    I am critical of Aretha's father.

    When Smokey Robinson spoke of their meeting as kids and his walking into the house and seeing her playing piano he said they were around 12 at the time. Aretha could have been pregnant. The little girl in the house pregnant playing the piano. My heart sank.

  • the guest

    Since ancient times black people are powerful people capable of greatness. Black people are not defined by victimhood. Black people are defined by overcoming oppression. Any conscious black person could read my comment and understands the impact of white supremacy, black elitism, and classism.

  • free

    that was shirley ceasar and folk was saying she was talking about how re re didn't go out like whitney.

  • Stacey J

    Seems to me if you go far enough to have 4 wardrobe changes for a corpse and to contact Mary Kay to have 200 pink Cadillacs outside the funeral....you might have taken the time to go over something actually really important like the eulogy...you know the actual thing in the service that pays tribute to the person's life...

  • parisjok

    oh, did not know his grandparents had money

  • Elevated Soul

    Exactly!!!

  • Blue

    Haaaaaaaaa

  • Jamal Warner

    No, the issue is not black elitism and classism, which is used as a deflection from white supremacy. The issue is white supremacy. Melaninated people are not defined by overcoming oppression. That would mean the white supremacist would be defining melaninated people. No, melaninated people are defined how we want to define ourselves. No one has any right that is not melaninated to define us.

  • Jamal Warner

    You should get one also.

  • Jamal Warner

    No, it's however I decide to use it.