The Cincinnati Zoo has completed renovations on a new fence around the Gorilla World exhibit after a beloved silverback gorilla was shot and killed when a boy fell into the moat.
The zoo erected a 42-inch tall fence around the exhibit to replace the old 3-foot fence that surrounded the exhibit for years.
According to WCPO, the new fence is fortified with wooden beams along the top and bottom and netting in between.
The gorilla exhibit is set to reopen on Tuesday, WCPO reports.
The old fence wasn’t enough to keep 4-year-old Isiah Dickerson out on Saturday.
After seeing the movie The Jungle Book, the precocious toddler was determined to swim with the gorillas.
He crawled under the old fence, over some rocks, and through some bushes before falling 15 feet into 18 inches of water.
Harambe the gorilla, who turned 17 the day before, was shot and killed by the zoo’s emergency response team after the primate dragged the child to safety and stood guard over the boy.
That baby boy will NEVER forget that day — he got the ride of his lil life in that moat, dammit!!! Weeeeeeeeeeee! Look at me, mommie! Tol’ you I was goin’ in!!!!
Side story…
Remember when just a year ago this story about a Lion made the news?? I forgot what happened. But I see a repeated pattern again with the news. I’m happy for the family but I do feel sad for the monkey… Planets of the Apes comes to mind
Soon there will be a new age of ALS bucket challenge, Zika virus stories, then next thing you know, back to school and winter…
SEW THEY WENT FROM 36 INCHES TO 42…I GUESS?
SUMMER IN AMERIKKKA.
that boy is traumatized for life. I bet he becomes a parent, he aint gonna take his future children to the zoo
6 inches makes a difference. In just about everything.
Oh goodness. I thought you said “Future’s children”. I was like, dats his kid too!??? Had to re-read it. Ok. Yeah, you’re right, Teresa.
After seeing the movie The Jungle Book, the precocious toddler was determined to swim with the gorillas.
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LMBO. I should feel bad for laughing….
-INSERT “HMM” EMOJI-
EDIT: LOW 3 IS ALMOST 40 INCHES TALL…42 AIN’T ENOUGH TO KEEP TODDLERS OUT
For instance: You want a 6 inch or a footlong?
Sub. Im just talking about sandwiches here.
Okay. No I aint.
I was saying the same thing.
Determined to make the gorilla a part of this black family. I hope you didn’t shoppe this pic on your own Sandra.
IN OTHER NEWS THAT WE CAN TALK ISHT ABOUT:
-FUCHSIA STILL AIN’T ISHT.
-MEEK MINAJ’S HOUSE ARREST GOT EXTENDED
-TEMPORARY DESTINY’S CHILD FARRAH GOT ARRESTED AGAIN…PUBLIC INTOXICATION
I LIKE SANDY PINK…PINK BUT STILL TAN. “RED” IF YOU WILL. -GIGGLES-
Farrah got arrested AGAIN? I was IN Myrtle Beach the last time she got arrested. Let me go find this here ish.
You so nassy.
Why did they extend Meek’s house arrest?
-MEEK MINAJ’S HOUSE ARREST GOT EXTENDED
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How your dumb ass do the wrong Community Service?
They TOLD you what to do!!!
Am I reading this correctly? They added 6 inches to the fence?
Let me go finish these few files…
TMZ claims that Farrah said ‘not enough’ when police asked how much she’d had to drink.
^^^^^^^
Aye. This is the most G chit Ive read in a minute.
Bish is you drunk?
Drunk heffa: Yep. But I aint have not NEARLY enough.
I said the same thing this AM. He will remember that forever. People can’t stop talking about it here in Cincinnati
OMG! ????
phallus – certainly
phence – doubtful
I got snot.
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!
The singer was arrested
for public intoxication and possession of marijuana, and is apparently still in custody with bail set at $250.
^^^^^^^^
If I was in the A, I would go get Farrah. And thats on everything man.
smh…. please put your computer in ‘sleep’ mode, LOL!
#FreeFarrahFranklin
Omg…she stayed drunk on Divas. Same chic right?
Phallus
Sandra…you are a cold wizard with photoshop
I think that was LaTavia. Farrah the one with the light eyes that replaced LaTavia and LeToya. Her and Michelle.
Nah. You’re thinking of Latavia.
so she got NO friends. when I got out, I’d re-evaluate my relationship w/every name in my contacts, LOL!!!
Tears.
Tavia was on Divas she’s expecting again not the drunk one
Ohhh, Farrah was on millionare match. Chile please…she a millionaire. Hundredaire
Who was drunk?
He did what he wanted to do, I’ll bet anything on it. He will not learn, just dumb and happy about it!!
Nvmd you mean Farrah
Then immediately got kicked out.
“INSUFFICIENT”
CRINE!!!!!
Yep po baby
Thank goodness now no other child will be able to get inside the pit…
OAN the mom told folks whomever wanted to donate to her, should donate to the zoo for the ape. ? Run tell that fox.
**snatches Keya’s hashtag keyboard out your hand**
Immechedly didn’t she
SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SERVICE…AIN’T EEEM DO ENOUGH
My ICE contact is DTTS..that ball of for will have ur back. She at yhe top of my list. Fa real…???
That ish was classic. One MTV interview it was “these our two new members”. Next MTV interview 3 months later was “we continuing on as a trio”
*hot tears*
*leaves before they start passing out onesies*
AND SHE’S SUPER SKINNY TO BOOT…SHE USED TO GIVE ME SLIGHT CHUBBY, BUT SHE’S RAIL THIN NOW. EVEN WITH CHILD.
Faux of course won’t.
Hmm I wonder what the compliance really is
WATT SAY YEW. They really don’t care but don’t wanna shoot their moneymakers ????
Maybe Bey is feeling a lil charitable & can get that bail for her? Oooor she could ALWAYS ask ole boy Juan Diaz Romero (high school FRAUD A$$ donor) for a CHECK & HOPE FOR DA BEST
Is there a byke story here?
they’ll be looking at your foam like…. hmm, this just says “Wolf”
Sometimes an extra 6 inches sets shyt OFF Nancy.
Cincinnati Zoo Erects New Fence Around Gorilla Pit; Plans to Reopen Tuesday
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ANOTHER DAY…ANOTHER DOLLAR! AIN’T NAAAA MONKEY…WELLL GORILLA GOIN’ STOP NO SHOW!
They should’ve had already have fences up… tf you mean
Farrah knows better. Why did choose to drink and drive in Atlanta with as many Uber and Lyft rides that are available. I think Farrah should sit there and think about what she has done.
Hmmmmmmm (ogasm sounds)
OH
her and Juan gone end up sharing a cell
See below. Farrah Franklin got her ass arrested and only need $250 to get out. Glad you are here. You were the last person with the blog Rush Card. Give it to an ATL Rose so we can go get Fay-RUH.
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Throws plastic shoe at you. Dont call DTTS no wolf. She me ride or die.?????
Wait. I thought she was disorderly conduct? Said she cussed some cat smooth out and got in a fight at the gym. She was DUI? Oh let her sit her ass there then.
N ahhhhh son! I’m saving up for new GUCCI pocketbook. Farrar is SHAWT! ?
Lol
New Post…Former Destiny Child Memba…
Its for blog expenses. You doing mismanagement and misconduct. All these damn baby showers we gotta throw. So selfish. *calls to have the Rush Card cut off*
What aboutchoooooooooooooo frennnnnnnnnnnns
Reevaluate = Pop em in eye
They should have done this a long time ago.
The three foot fence was just fine for years before this irresponsible family showed up to the zoo.
Ion care! SR ain’t give out no gifts in over a year…It’s for when we do our atl meet up #fyi
*places blawg cahd in protective case* ??
He seems like the type of hard headed FAWK to be like nah son. I wanna do my com-runty service at THIS library. Fukk going way ‘cross town. *walks into wrong library and starts to shelve books* While the staff looking around like who is this nigga here? And the ‘cross TOWN library wondering WHY he aint show up. Fukking dickwad.
true… but it’s all relative.
6 inches more on a trip to see the river monster aint the same as 6 more inches to keep you outta the gorilla moat
ARe they gonna let chew down ? and let you sit in gel ????
I’m tired if hearing about this gorilla as if it’s a freaking human being. Gesh!!!! It’s an animal for goodness sake.
That kid has some issues. What kid wants 2 swim with a live “Gorilla?. I’m sure he’s begging his mom 2 go back since the trip was cut short?
MzWolf ?
Not that kind of wolf lol
I love my wolf Herr ???
Will they stand their ground? Will they let you down again?
apparentlee, smh
LOL!
I will say that I like this family photo up top ?
you wearing jellies? in this heat???????
No to jellies…
They emit the pvc fumes or something G along those lines. We learned this about a month ago
Facepalm
No to jellies…
They emit the pvc fumes or something G along those lines. We learned this about a month ago
Facepalm
*walks into wrong library and starts to shelve books*
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this has given me the WORSEST cramp in my side… CRINE.
*walks into wrong library and starts to shelve books*
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this has given me the WORSEST cramp in my side… CRINE.
Yeah, i will give them back later after u leave golden corral. ?
Yeah, i will give them back later after u leave golden corral. ?
nvmd… she prolly doing ‘laundry’
nvmd… she prolly doing ‘laundry’
Just gonna PICK him a place and what he gonna do for his damn service? Trash? I aint picking up no street trash. I WILL go into this library tho where its nice and air conditioned.
Just gonna PICK him a place and what he gonna do for his damn service? Trash? I aint picking up no street trash. I WILL go into this library tho where its nice and air conditioned.
Ohhhh..come here I am Am the only one that can call her crazy like a wolf. U talking about sll that hair of hers. Ohhhhh
Kona
Ohhhh..come here I am Am the only one that can call her crazy like a wolf. U talking about sll that hair of hers. Ohhhhh
Kona
girl you can keep ’em! *fake grin*
girl you can keep ’em! *fake grin*
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I’m all up in the koolaid without knowing the flavor. $250 ain’t nearly enough for DUI bond. It’s probably for just disorderly conduct. I would go bail her out, but she the way my bank account is set up: I have a checking and a savings…
I’m all up in the koolaid without knowing the flavor. $250 ain’t nearly enough for DUI bond. It’s probably for just disorderly conduct. I would go bail her out, but she the way my bank account is set up: I have a checking and a savings…
it’s okay (we already figured you were doing laundry)
it’s okay (we already figured you were doing laundry)
It takes 3 days Butter? I understand lmao.
Its too early and warm. Hands ur bottle back.
PREACH??????????
Ok we got until JULY for Nakeya’s shower!
Exactly. I thought that was awesome and very clever strategy turning a negative into a positive. I have yet to see a media source make that the focus since the incident and the vile treatment they’ve experienced from the public.
He did!
They said go to the homeless shelter.
He went a hand full of times or some chit
Its been a few. NBC. NY Daily News.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-boy-who-fell-harambe-exhibit-asks-donations-go-zoo-n583831
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boy-family-calls-cincinnati-zoo-donations-harambe-article-1.2656801
Hell naw. Not them of all folks. MSNBC/NBC pretty fair. I always big up them. ABC is hit or miss. CBS just does wtf the other two I just mentioned do.
*places it back in the nook behind the fire extinguisher*
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me check these out because initially when the statement was released I didn’t see anything. Thank you!
I’m near bout hollering! I swear we STAYED at the library when school was out in the summertime for this very reason… dag gone window units and box fans was NOT the business at the house. mama can we PLEASE go to the library????????
LOL!
I mean, if you gonna reinforce the fence just go ahead and add a foot…. iont know, just seems like they’re doing the bare minimum but I don’t know what this fence looks like, how it’s situated, or what other deterrents they may also have in place
Still throwing shade at this family NBC News. SMH!
The family’s statement came a day after Hamilton County prosecutor Joseph Deters announced that Cincinnati police are investigating whether any criminal charges should be filed in the incident.
i am still upset they killed this gorilla..every time i see the video i see nothing but protection coming from the gorilla ..if he wanted to harm that little boy there was PLENTY of time.. people forget that gorillas are protective by nature, they are loving and friendly animals..the same way they wouldve protected their young is the same way this gorilla protected the little boy..
Are Gorillas ferocious animals.. YES… should he have been tranquilzed..YES but killed naw mann..thats a bit much for me
Good place
I’m totally lost on this. ?
Who is offering 2 donate Money 2 her & WHY?
dont because its probably true..lol
What vile treatment have they encountered?? Haven’t heard about anyone speaking with them?
Nothing’s fool proof. That’s why parents need to watch their kids
I think his people couldn’t pay off the right people to falsify the records but I blame Nikki Minaji. How are you his girlfriend and the only thing he had to do was easy ass community service. That’s part of the gf code to make sure all I’s were dotted and T’s were crossed. I also blame the high priced attorney for not reviewing the terms of his service with competent people. In other words, this shouldn’t have happened.
Kids do and will get away from you.
IF YOU ASK MY ESTRANGED SPOUSE IT’S NOT THE WOMAN’S JOB TO HELP DOT THE EYE’S AND CROSS THE TEE’S… IT’S BEING CONTROLLING AND DEMANDING.
Kids will run in the street in traffic if you don’t teach them any different. Kids needs to be taught so they know better. In all the years that zoo has been open..out of the tens of millions of kids that have visited that gorilla..NOT ONE HAS CLIMBED INTO the gorilla enclosure. So go somewhere with that kids will be kids bul chit!
LMBO!!!
He is 3 that day is already behind him, he better grow up to be somebody cause if ever get in trouble with the law white folks gonna want justice for that gorilla. No matter how far out it is, if you don’t believe me ask OJ.
It’s funny when folks on this site thought the mother was white, they called her and her child every name in the book. Now that we know they’re black…there’s so much sympathy. I’m real if nothing else. That boy is BAD and his momma knows it. She shouldn’t have brought that rug rat to the zoo and then let him run wild. What kind of devilish child climbs a fence and works his way through tough terrain to leap into a moat??? That’s the kind of bad azz crazy child that only a mother could love.
All those damn kids.. Couldn’t watch them all…
Well that’s like a story about a child crawling on subway tracks. Some things just are inexcusable.
Nothing cute about what this child did. He lacks common sense and seeks danger. His parents are unaccountable for their neglect and make excuses for their child’s bad behavior that cost a life.
As he grows up and his poor judgement, thrill seeking, and bad behavior escalate to crime, his parents are the type that will blame everyone but him. This kid and his family need help. He’s proven a danger to himself and others.
Sorry to be so by the book harsh but kids don’t just go around defying their parents to the point of placing their own life and others lives at risk. This is no boys will be boys, this kid needs help.
He’s not traumatized. He’s been rewarded with sympathy and fame for his bad behavior. He will brag about this and show off the video and maybe even profit off it for the rest of his life.
LOL
Thank u for Speaking The Truth. That child is Mentally Challenged?& the Apples don’t fall far from the Tree????????
A 3 year old lacks common sense. Bwahaha. Duh. He’s a child.
He’s four and normal four year olds don’t climb through two barriers then walk a ledge to fall 15ft to swim in a gorilla enclosure. Normal children don’t have the thought or desire to seek out danger. People should not be making excuses for his disobedience and bad behavior that cost a life.
He’s four and normal four year olds don’t climb through two barriers then walk a ledge to fall 15ft to swim in a gorilla enclosure. Normal children don’t have the thought or desire to seek out danger. People should not be making excuses for his disobedience and bad behavior that cost a life.
The kid is 4 years old…a kid that age doesn’t know that a gorilla is dangerous unless taught AND even then the kid would still probably be curious.
His bad ass…
That’s what I said lol. I would have whipped his little butt raw when we got home!
Thank u. ??It’s shocking that some r not able 2 scope the “Abnormal behavior of this child. He’ll end up n the news again. You can’t fix “Stupid”. ?
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That little child will probably be banned from the zoo and his whole family. They probably don’t care they are just glad they have their son. If they are charged then the man that just jumped in the lions dens butt naked should be charged too! They shot those lions too and he wanted to die. Nobody is complaining about the lions getting killed!!!!
this is stupid thinking. it only takes one time for tragedy to happen. just because it hadn’t happened beforehand doesn’t mean that there was not potential for it to have happened or that it wouldn’t happen eventually. so you understand, let me give you a plain real world analogy. if your bathroom has mold growing in the floorboards, it weakens the entire infrastructure and rots your wood. now you can live with this without incident for several years. but let’s say one day, your cheating husband gets in that shower with his mistress and the combined weight and exertion of their activities causes the floorboards to break, pipes to burst and so forth. now the whole bathroom has to be remodeled. sure, the husband and his mistress were wrong. but despite that fact, it doesn’t excuse the fact that you knew you had a weak infrastructure and didn’t take precautions to reinforce it so your entire bathroom would not get ruined. as a zoo that entraps deadly animals, it is there responsibility to do q&a and proper risk assessment. that a four year old has the ability to climb over a rail because they didn’t make the structure sound is bad planning. and the zoo is outdated. security breach.
someone started a petition to have the parents charged for negligence…
That’s because they grieved Cecil The Lion so much, that they already met their quota. LOL
That’s because they grieved Cecil The Lion so much, that they already met their quota. LOL
Thank you, its sad people cant see something is really wring with the Gregg family for this to happen. Unfortunately the kid will end up in the news again for bad behavior because this bad behavior was rewarded.
That’s the bottom line – he told his mother he was going to do it and she ignored it.
You so wrong for that!!!!
Rest in Peace H….. It’s between you and https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d6e0fdd05657ce5805b38f147e6f0f3771eb0ccf605ddfcfac1bb88a2aa29b2d.jpg your Lord if you was trying to save the little boy or stomp him out! Only God can judge you now!!!
why is harambe in the family pics though?
according to witnesses, there is a lot that we DON’T see. the video doesn’t show the full ten minutes.
none of the animals get out; people climb in. the compromise between keeping animals in a habitat that closely mirrors their own is keeping your self and your kids out of their habitat. nobody should want to go back to caging and fencing animals in. if folk don’t think a zoo is safe, they shouldn’t allow their kids to go. these natural habitats have been around forever.
…the animals are caged and fenced – that is the whole premise of a zoo am i right? when you have a business that is predicated on displaying species that are dangerous, you have to use proper risk assessment and quality assurance for ALL possible scenarios. that means by nature, you have to ensure that the gates can keep the animals in AND people out. if a four year old can climb inside, that means you have failed. if a grown person had done so – okay, that’s on the fault of the person because one would assume that given an adult’s size, power, and cognitive ability to problem solve, it would take a bit of concentrated effort to get in. even still, if it is a person that gets in, most companies might take a look at how the security measures were breached and may rethink their planning. if a four year old who is not fully developed mentally or physically has the ability to climb over your barricade, it is likely your infrastructure is outdated and needs reinforced. the enclosures at my zoo have barbed wire and electrical fencing near the gates closest to the railing. so if a person climbs over the railing and attempts to wide through shrubbery, they will not get far… also, it is difficult to climb over the railings themselves since they are pretty high up.
that fence should have been that tall…I would sue the zoo if it was me, while they ( the police) trying to arrest them
I know…everyday on the news..thats what I hear….
It was 7000 folks at the zoo that day….that there was reason enough to keep both eyes on your children…but when he KEPT saying he was going in….ummmmm….Yeah! RIP Harambe
I don’t know if I replied to you already but I don’t know how you can say this isn’t their fault. The park has been like that all these years and no kids have fallen in. They might as well have just dropped the boy off and left.
The vile treatment I am speaking of is the verbal attacks this family has endured. The comments thrown at them were disgusting and horrible. Does anyone need to speak with them face-to-face to make it less or more horrid in your opinion?
You must not have kids or know any. Kids run into traffic. Dive into swimming pools before they can swim. Pet strange dogs. Touch hot stoves. Climb up on rooves. And a host of other dangerous things.
They’ve issued corrections. He is actually 3.
No one is making excuses. He did disobey his mom. What I am saying is it is normal for kids to do things that one would hope an adult (who has spent enough years on earth to know better) wouldn’t do.
Don’t think it would matter if they’re approached face 2 face. This woman has the attention span of a “Knat?She didn’t pay attention 2 her kid so obviously no one else would get her attention?
Hmph, if you say so. You are entitled to your opinions. Take care…
He’s a 3 year old you idiot!
I didn’t say that the mother was not at fault as well, but as a business owner you need to take precaution to ensure you assess ALL risk and do everything in your reasonable power to mitigate potential tragedy. if it had been an adult: definitely personal accountability. but the reality is that kids often run off from parents that SHOULD be watching them. I’ve seen this in all public domains. knowing this – and having a public place where a large population of my intended patrons are children – I would need to account for this in my planning. the national zoo has high enclosures; mesh netting to prevent people from falling down and barbed wire in their enclosures. it would take reasonable force and planning to break through all of these safe falls that a child would likely not be able to get through. at this establishment, however, it did not take reasonable effort or concentrated efforts for him to fall down into the moat. that is my point.
We can argue the same point all day. Your point would be valid IF and that’s a big IF- there was a pattern of kids falling in there. But this never happened to 1 other child ever before. So no she is to blame 100%
Children who–have the opportunity to–run into traffic, dive into swimming pools before they can swim, pet strange dogs, touch hot stoves are abnormal and victims of parental neglect, period.
A child with desire and determination to crawl under two barriers, walk through bushes, walk a ledge, then fall 15ft in a gorilla pool under his parent’s watch is abnormal and victim of child neglect.
In 36 years, the barriers were sufficient to keep out all properly reared and supervised children. The zoo is not at fault.
This mother refers to her incompetence and neglect as an accident. An accident would be standing with your child and your child slipping. Ignoring your youngest child in a public place for an extended period of time and the child willfully hiking and breaking barriers to jump which cost a life is not an accident.
Yes, I have children and like all the other parents who ever visited that zoo, I properly raise and supervise my children. And even when as young as two, my children had the innate sense and intelligence to not seek out danger.
The only idiot is Michelle Gregg and her child is following her idiot example.
The parents must be charged with neglect. Both of them. Two parents work as a team to endure the supervision and safety of their children. Parents should know their limitations. The mother is not capable of supervising her multiple children so the baby daddy should have taken off of work or they should not visit public places unless they bot can attend.
He didn’t get away. His mother ignored him.
THANK YOU!
Exactly. And this kid didn’t fall in. His mother ignored him and he willfully navigated a maze to jump in. He didn’t slip because onlookers tried to stop him. He was determined and jumped. And people are defending this as an accident? Unreal.
but that does not mean there would not have been another curious child to do so. I work in IT. most of these infrastructures are outdated and there are known holes in some security measures. your thinking is what enabled Target to get hacked and for millions of people’s personal financial data to be leaked online. when you continue to allow holes in your security models and do not continuously attempt to improve structures based on what has not happened, you lend more opportunity for tragedy to strike.
Good morning and thank you for responding back. I say this with respect to your opinion, I don’t wear “rose colored glasses” . I hope you have a great day.
Are you around any children? I’m just asking.
Who’s at fault here?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/22/americas/chile-zoo-lions-naked-suicide-trnd/&ved=0ahUKEwi-pIjWj5HNAhVFPiYKHRs5BsAQFggeMAA&usg=AFQjCNE8iWuv08Hab8DVxud4cwPs-71u8g&sig2=ZQR67Eh8fZ14OHSTur6D_w
Who’s at fault here? I’m just asking.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/22/americas/chile-zoo-lions-naked-suicide-trnd/&ved=0ahUKEwi-pIjWj5HNAhVFPiYKHRs5BsAQFggeMAA&usg=AFQjCNE8iWuv08Hab8DVxud4cwPs-71u8g&sig2=ZQR67Eh8fZ14OHSTur6D_w
Black people will defend all types of nonsense lol
You passed many judgements here. My judgement is that a child should not have been able to get under, over, or through a barrier at a zoo to keep humans and animals apart.
If you say so. I’ve seen it happen too many times. Less than 5 seconds and they’re gone or they cover territory much faster than anticipated.
I don’t remember blaming the zoo.
Good for your kids. Can’t say that most children have that sense as they are children and know little of the world and it is pretty abnormal to have such a keen sense like that but good for your kids.
Can’t day that I’ve ever disagreed about the average kid not crawling into a gorilla pit. It had happened a few times but that small number wouldn’t qualify as average.
Who is making excuses? Stating that kids often do things that aren’t in their best interest is not the same as condoning kids running off.
We just have to agree to disagree. Too many normal kids out there doing all kinds of crazy things from time to time for me to agree that kids have an innate sense of danger lurking at all times and only rare abnormal ones don’t fit that profile.