R&B singer R. Kelly defended his unusual relationship with two 20-something women in an explosive interview with Gayle King which aired Wednesday, March 6, on CBS This Morning. The troubled 52-year-old singer was charged with 10 counts of aggravated sexual abuse of three underage girls and an adult woman last month.
In his first interview since his arrest, the oversexed crooner confirmed he is involved in a relationship with two aspiring singers, Joycelyn Savage, 23, and Azriel Clary, 21, who both live with him in his $2 million Trump Tower apartment in Chicago, Illinois.
“I love them and it’s almost, it’s like they’re my girlfriends,” Kelly told King. “It’s like, you know, we have a relationship. It’s real.”
Kelly justified his non-traditional relationship, saying, “I’ve known guys all my life that have 5 or 6 women.”
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King asked Kelly to describe his relationship with Joycelyn Savage, whose parents insist she is being brainwashed by Kelly.
“I didn’t go looking for a Joycelyn Savage” Kelly explained. “I was doing my show, [her father] brought her and asked a friend of mine to put her on the stage with R. Kelly,” he said, referring to himself in the third person.
Azriel Clary also met Kelly at one of his concerts. Kelly said Clary’s parents turned her over to him in exchange for money. He said her parents pulled the then 17-year-old onstage with him back in 2015.
He said Clary’s parents told him they hoped she would become his musical protégé.
King asked Kelly to describe his relationship with Clary.
“Right now? I’m seeing her. She’s 21, I’m seeing her,” he replied.
He denied having a sexual relationship with Clary while she was a teenager.
“Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Although her parents wanted me to.”
King mentioned text messages that the parents claim proves he had sex with their daughter when she was only 17.
“Claim. Claim,” said Kelly.
“So you’re saying you did not have with her when she was 17?” asked King.
“Absolutely not!” said Kelly.
He said her parents were money hungry opportunists.
“What kind of father, what kind of mother, would sell their daughter to a man? How come it was ok for me to see them until they weren’t getting no money from it?”
Kelly is currently out on $1 million bond. He lives with Clary and another of his girlfriends, Joycelyn Savage, in a $2 million Trump Tower apartment in Chicago.
Can we get a break in between bloody lips please? They look like they burn
WOW….THEY JUST PULLED ALL MJ MUSIC FROM RADIO STATIONS WORLDWIDE… So wrong…they didn;t even do this when he was living and going through his court procedures.
is this sh!t about two grown women or a 14-year old girl? i’m bout tired of hearing about these two chicks.
My God i never wanted to douse myself more with acid then after this interview. Worst part is he has kids! But i guarantee you this he still will sell out stands.
Chile could you imagine the entities in this fool here …… all those different women and kids …….. chile …. scum …… chile this man is a damn monster …… gross …….. just grosss https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ecfd6c11b7d795d2adbd22c695b938f5ef5fb31b8c59fae59946cfb30f1b334.gif
based on those two bullsh*t *ss “victims” smh.
Real long deep azz Sigh ?
Bust down thotianas
“What kind of father, what kind of mother, would sell their daughter to [me, a sexual predator of young women] a
man? How come it was ok for me to see them until they weren’t getting
no money from it?”
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This dude…
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DeeRay Davis has two twenty something year old girlfriends..
Next…thery will be removing his Walk of Fame Star…
Wow. Well, that’ll hurt the family (and estate) that is supported by the monies from that music, but it will keep the alleged victims from cashing in on their documentary and its fallout via lawsuit…maybe.
The chickens are coming home to roost all over the place.
LOONNNNGGG EXASPERATED SIGH…….
aunty….are ALL of the posts today gonna be about this pedophile???
so she has been with him since she was 17…but he waited till she was 21 to screw her??? smdh….wow….just…wow….how would he feel if a 52 year old man was smashing his teenage daughter???? THAT is t he question Gayle should ask!!!!!
Do you have kids? So if MJ was alive would you allow your children to hang out with some grown ass man? Do better!
Advice to RK: Move to Utah where you can have all the “sister wives” you want….or convert to Islam where you can have women all you want. The two girls were interviewed by Gail too and they swear there’s nothing wrong. They’re grown, it’s their choice….WTF? is this about?
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Hopefully the estate will win their case against HBO.
How come it was ok for me to see them until they weren’t getting
no money from it?”
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HE SAID THIS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am DONE!!!!
I agree. Music Stations need to go through ALL their catalogs and pull some other’s music too. Just because 2 people claim that MJ abused them, you pull his music? It’s time to load up on all MJ CDs and sell them online!!!
Wait a minute! He can have two girlfriends if everyone is okay with it. Why is the show Sister Wives acceptable but not his choice of relationships? Why can all those religious Latter Day Saints have multiple wives and girlfriends? In many African countries, multiple wives is common. Men even marry their brothers wives when he dies so that she is cared for. This ain’t got shyt to do with sexual assault charges? They’re trying to destroy this man!
He’s still revered overseas. It will make a dent, but not much….plus the estate has probably invested the money well.
if MJ was alive would you allow your children to hang out with some grown ass man? Do better!
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Their PARENTS should have gatdamn DONE BETTER. Lawd. These MEN WERE KNOWN PEDOS. Its your JOB to protect them from pedos. Not drop them the hell OFF round their HOUSE.
How many men have jump offs for years…years? At least he’s upfront with his shyt!
The young ladies are grownups. They don’t want to go home. If the parents were serious, they would hire one of those bounty hunters to kidnap them – like the white folks do.
Like I wrote — he should move to Utah. He’s the stupid one. Move to UT or one of those Islam countries.
I only care about the minors. Grown ass women that’s on them
The parents who prostitute their children out should go to jail as well. As far as him knowing men with 5 or 6 women, well most Africans, Carribeans, and Jamaican men do have a lot of women and children all over the place.
They’re too broke for that. Someone said they have other kids that they don’t even raise.
So, basically he’s saying the pedophile is blameless if the parents handed over the child? So if I go into a bank and I’m a convicted bank robber, and just because of how i look if the teller stuff 20k in my pockets and I walk out i’m innocent?
More …
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My question to him woulda been “What kind of nigga would take teenage girls they parents don’t want unless he tryna fuc on em or prostitute them?
WHO Bigen’d/Hair Color for Men’d him like that?
So who is flying them back n forth to Chicago?
Oh, he’s using the old “Everyone else is doing it” excuse. Meanwhile, you started dating them when they were minors & you groomed the girls into thinking that this behavior is normal…and it’s not.
Spirit Airlines. $49. Round trip.
*hands Kelly a bigger shovel*
Keep digging that hole, R.
I’m just guessing….but maybe RK gives them an “allowance.” I mean they have to stay nice for him. I would imagine they may also be backup singers.
Plus he has a Trump hotel apt., so they sleep free.
I am talking about the parents
This is a gd circus and everyone involved are clowns. I’m embarrassed, and i know i this doesn’t have anything to do with me.
I am glad these parents are getting shamed, but they are still going to walk away with money- book deals, interviews, movies by selling out their daughters.
And it’s tax time.
Unfortunately, that documentary has me looking at MJ like a monster. I used to love him, but in my heart I know he did it. It’s awful. He was the perfect pedophile. He wooed that parents and acted like a kid. Then he would teach the boys how to masturbate and have them perform oral sex. As Wade said, MJ put his adult size penis in his 7-year old mouth. I believe him because he truly loves MJ, and testified twice for him. But he couldn’t heal without finally speaking the truth.
LOL!
i don’t allow my children to hang out with ANY grown ass MAN or WOMAN including some FAMILY. so what does that have to do with the fact that these motherfuckers who did the documentary are FRAUDS?
I would never even let them meet him. He used his power. He would turn the kids against their parents. He was a true pedophile and it hurts me to say it.
The Snowden lives in ATL….on Seeking Sister Wives….they are all over the US
if he had met these two young women when they both were 18 or above, more power to them if they are all in a consensual relationship and all are getting their jollies off. But if he met them when they were underage, and he either slept with them or groomed them, that is a issue. Parents guilty as well.
Not one lie is mentioned there. Men often brag about having relationships with multiple women who are usually younger, hell there was even a TV show about it with a white man showing off his women and he was paid for it. I’m becoming more convinced that this is an easy take down by a pack of opportunitist. That “brand new” evidence still hasn’t been produced. Freak yes, current criminal pedophile, no. He’s gonna beat this case
17 is legal in most states. Have you seen these fast azz girls. Plus her parents pushed her on him which is weird because she had just tried to commit suicide. At least she seems happy now.
Thank you….I protect my son the same way I protect my daughter.
All I know is this is how I act when I’m lying… whewwwww!
the blame game chile
Might as well get rid of movies and music altogether then. Hollywood remembering it has morals.?
This is pathetic … The man is trying to stay out of jail so he will say anything … His brother even said this man like young girls and didn’t see anything wrong with what he was doing … People with power need to understand that they have influence and people just want to be seen with them which impairs judgement for even adults and children have no chance … underage is off limits … he can do what he wants with consenting adults but the lying and hostage mess adds tot he confusion … He keeps playing his cards wrong … Let those girls see their families is all he had to do but he keeps making dummy moves ….. SMH
Logg off ?
plenty of folks have more than one partner & no one bats an eye but because it’s r. Kelly it’s a problem. Gtfoh with that shit.
Boom!!… This is how MOST ppl react when they lying!
Some of his victims are from overseas. Wade is from Australia. Their story is well backed by the footage of MJ hanging with boys all over the world. He had a list of them that he would make his rounds with. He paid off a lot of people. He bought one of the victims in the documentary a house just as he testified that MJ hadn’t abused him. His parents claim they didn’t know about the abuse. They considered Michael’s grown azz a son who would come over, eat, play and have sleepovers in their home.
This right here!!! The entertainment industry across the board is full of predators.
“I love them and it’s almost, it’s like they’re my girlfriends,” Kelly told King. “It’s like, you know, we have a relationship. It’s real.”
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So, they are ALMOST LIKE they are your girlfriends? Are you sure Robert?? It seems like you are trying to convince yourself of that theory. This was an absolute train wreck. Do not even think about pleading NG after this mess. This interview will haunt you, dude. You don’t even realize WHAT you are admitting too..
Meanwhile, twitter is roasting your behind over an open fire. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/98c5adae19abb7212db9c394a33faf48ef6b2a8e1752a3757eb7f04bb7bc73e6.gif
The issue is not how many you had. The issue is the age!
Can we all agree that this man clearly has some mental issues. We always joke and say “hurt people, hurt people” but we have GOT to start healing our wounds so we can do better. That goes for him and Michael.
I could possibly support it. I hate to say this but MJ wasn’t right.
They ‘traded’ their daughters for money and when the daughters became of legal age, he stopped with the moola b/c the young ladies made their decision to “be with’ him in this “sister wives” ish….
Michael is dead. We let him run wild on these boys while he was alive. We knew he shouldn’t have been carrying Emmanuel Lewis around. We knew it!
Did her mama nem really name her after Gargamel’s cat?????
I agree. U cant blame all on RKelly. Blame the money hungry parents
Been said he mildly retarded. Said it in a Kelz post again today. But hell. They the ones who needed to seek help. Kelz said today he STILL aint got no damn help.You cant MAKE someone get help man.
Yes so sad
A lot of men sleep with 17-year olds.
Yea I was watching the Michael doc like this fool has ruined his face but I NEVER truly paid attention until the doc. SMFH. Like D.L. Hughley said, black people will forgive you as long as you give them a good album and I too am guilty of that shit.
Yes. Many young men, rappers, have more than one chic. Kellz is right on wit this one here
Clearly, he did this interview without considering the advice of counsel. No way in F*CK, a lawyer who graduated from DeVry would allow a client to talk himself INTO a jail cell.
WTF?!
Lol. Its actually a real name. Its Biblical. In Hebrew it translates to “God is my help”. Now her sister name is some messed up shit. A’Iceis. Which is a real name too. But that spelling gotta GEAUX.
Right the ONLY truth he said was I NEED help but he ain’t asking for the right help. Big heart my ass you need HELP HELP.
I really, really wanted him to come with his own receipts in regards to paying the parents. Burn himself and the parents all in one. I thought he might really be just that stupid since he went this far, lol.
Amen. Heffner did it. Why cant Rkelly
*Slaps knee* LMAO
Midly retarded…. But yeah I don’t think the elevator goes all the way up. He seems kinda slow,
I cant stop laughing now off of Garagamel’s cat. I hate you
He die as an innocent man….they could have said all this while he was living….certainly the one that was dating his niece….also this dude was married with a child at that time…so you prejury yourself in court 2x but wait 10 yrs after his death to cry the blues…
I heard Butterfly on Claudia & Rudy this AM.
A lot of people don’t wash their hands after using the bathroom. Doesn’t make it right.
I DO think he realizes right from wrong bc he went to great lengths to HIDE these actions. Why I used mildly
“I’ve known guys all my life that have 5 or 6 women.” Translation – “I’ve known deadbeats all my life who went bed to bed to have somewhere to stay.”
Look Heffner had many, many many girlfriends for decades and no one said shit. Move on and leave RKelly alone.
My kids act like this when I ask then who broke something. They get yelling and pointing fingers at each other. Both of them be lying.
I wouldn’t even listen to the evidence when the cancer stricken boy accused him of sexual abuse. I was distracted by Michael arriving to court in his pajamas. What kind of monster would abuse a cancer patient? He also paid off a lot of parents.
Well she need to call on Him. In Jesus name. Amen.
17 is legal in many states. Not a big deal at all, especially if the parents don’t care which hers didn’t.
Chef Mario Batali gives up his restaurants after sexual misconduct allegations. *waits for him to be interviewed*
I ultimately blame the parents for sure.
I swear I didn’t pay attention to anything but JACKO cause I felt like why? why would he do that? I mean I am thankful my mom wouldn’t hear it. My family actually had assess to the Jackson’s from being Jehovah’s witnesses and my mom was like nope. I ain’t hearing it. Something ain’t clean in the milk PERIOD
Kendra “met” him when she was 17.
They swept his shit alllll the way under the rug. Quietly left the chew.
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didn’t THE CHEW (ABC) get canceled because of his doings?
He just don’t understand how to articulate himself. He talks like a 16 year old, which I think is where is at mentally.
My five year old definitely does the MOST when she is lying. Tears and all. I’m always like girl STAWP.
same time! jinx! i just asked about that show below. so he left beforehand. hmmm.
White Priviledge!
Wrong is wrong. Don’t deflect. Why does that matter?
Yea just one day he was gone. I like ooo that’s how we are doing it, but the bald head guy I remember him being pissed.
I think so they got canceled not too long after he left. Poor Carla. I only watched it for her. Him and his crocs and scrunchies irritated me.
He loved MJ and didn’t want him to go to jail. He only spoke out after he couldn’t heal. He was embarrassed to admit what happened. It would negatively impact his career and his family didn’t know. He finally had to come clean to heal and be a husband and father.
Please don’t get mad but ummmmmm………”I don’t wanna hurt nobody but there is something I must confessssss! I don’t see nothing wrong with a little bump and grind. Ok, now wtf did you think he was singing about. Fake outrage is ALL THE OUTRAGE NOWADAYS! #FCKFAKEFOLKS
“I’ve known guys all my life with 5 or 6 women.” The difference is you, Robert, dealt with girls…underage girls. You recently turned yourself in because of your actions with a 14yo girl. Put your smoke & mirrors away.
I think the “like” is indicative of a lack of maturity in that maybe he doesn’t know what a REAL relationship is, be it girlfriend/boyfriend or wife/husband. From what Andrea described of their marriage, it’s like it wasn’t a marriage or even a relationship but just hanging out, drinking, boozing, dancing, singing, etc.
What! I have seen a man on one social media platform with 7 women some of them were pregnant at same time. ????? They share him with no problem.
Now I will say this, I don’t give a damn about him having more than one woman. As long as they legal that’s their business. Most celebrities have more than one woman at time. The courts are reaching with this. They need to let him alone about how many girlfriends he got when Hugh Hefner had a mansion full of barley legal girls.
Me too! Love Miss Carla! Have loved her since Top Chef.
Its lunchtime!
Greenberg is all that he could afford! Greenberg is definitely NOT top notch! Probably in it for the high profile experience….
Yes
Shhhhhhhhh…….that man is dead. Don’t be disrespecting the dead like that. In case you’re wondering MJ isn’t dead it was all a hoax that’s why they still talking about him. Wait….oh wait pay me no never mind my tinfoil hat is crumbling.
Hell Puffy had Kim Porter and Chance’s mother pregnant at the same time. He got ghetto tripletts.
I got a cousin who had two kids by two different women at the same time. 6 months apart.
Why Gail dont interview Harvey Weinstein?
Laying the groundwork for an insanity plea perhaps?
MJ stopped settling and said he was taking everything to court moving forward and everybody shut up. then his estate was broke and everybody shut up. now the estate is worth money and he’s good and dead so…well…here we are.
White men aren’t stupid, they will never allow the media to publicly hang them.
Jayz “met” Beyonce when she was 17. He was 29.
R. Pee Kelly’s fate won’t be decided by a bunch of bitter women who hate young black girls (thank God.) Let’s see if the justice system works for once… Only a matter of time now.
Because most of the time they ARE the media….
So is it illegal to be a sugar daddy??
There are many men in the industry got with young girls at the tender age of 16 years old. No one talks about it. When a black man do it they want to hang him. White or black they should all be held accountable. Now, question, do yall see any white man in the hot seat for what they have done?
Too white
Shhhhhhhhhh……..stop it…….this is about the fall of one black man at a time. Plus Oprah and the Obama’s like Jay and Bey.
yall let’s focus on the fact that R got a video with a chick saying she got 14-yo puzzay. all the rest is irrelevant. he going to jail.
Exactly and they know how the media machine work. Black people are stupid enough to set up interviews or agree to an interview all the while people are convicting u before trial has even started.
You crazy. Yup.????
Two houses
Uggggghhhhh Because that’s who’s behind these black men being taken down. Duh!
i have not seen a white man on video. there is irrefutable evidence of the crime. i gotta believe avenatti is not going to put himself out there like that.
Duh….they own the media.
Yep ELVIS, Jerry Lewis, dude from Aerosmith
AHHHH. LOL Got it!
He’s definitely going to jail. He got away with this before and that wasn’t good enough he had to keep going so now it’s time to pay the price.
Smh these comments are a mess.
Jerry Lee Lewis MARRIED his 13 year old cousin
EXACTLY! Instead they just grab by the pus pus and stick their tongue down the women’s throats and break in 13 year olds. Go to trial get convicted and flee the country and win awards.
All people should do what’s right. I never understood the well everyone else do it logic.
A lot of the white ones go to Thailand
That’s right!!!!!!
So Azriel is a girl again?
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right, i’m not making excuses; i’m just telling you that R is going to jail because of these videos.
The everyone else becomes logic because that’s what sets the standard.
Why dont Gail interview the women Heffner had on TV with him? Why cause Heff walked around with a rob and ciger ????
LOL the MF is on video; what more needs to be said? folk not gonna believe their lying eyes??
Chile… Me neither but whatevs?????
White folks stay on code & protect their own…
So are you trying to tell me that R. Kelly is going to jail because of a video tape? But black men are MURDERED on video tape and nobody goes to jail? As Rodney King’s video showed us decades ago…..video proof ain’t enough.
i think he is trying to say he didn’t keep going; it’s old but, it’s still another girl. he doesn’t understand that new charges can be brought.
So Oprah is handling MJ case and Gayle is handling RK case…what a tag team.
Black people also conduct the interview putting a ‘black face’ on the lynchmob
Nope that is what the black community does totally delusional.
I’m reading some of the comments and I will like to inform those who do not know, there are 2 sets of law books. One law book for black folk and one for white folk. White folk will never be charged or charged as harshly as a black person due to the dual set of rules. What applies to white people DO NOT apply to Black people. With that being said u will never be able to use the excuse well white people do it. Let that go.
I agree.
Yeah that’s true but some of us need a reality check.
IDK. Forgot he was even on there. LOL
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If you willingly accept that treatment you can’t complain
Its the same girl from last time I think. I am lost at this point
Man, I remember when everyone thought Oprah was going to run for president and Donald Trump was like, oh good I have lots of personal stuff on her she will be easy to defeat. Well, I guess Donald Trump wasn’t the only one who had dirt on this cow.
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Sad
The tape they got is from like 97, 98, 99. Its a VHS tape so you know its old old. I don’t think he’s stupid to still be recording himself. I think that’s what he initially trying to say in this interview. But unfortunately for him Illinois JUST changed their laws of about the time limits of statutory rape. They can go back as far as they want, to get him. So he’s flucked. And that’s why he crying
The human trafficking, that’s another story. That may be harder to prove.
Agreed. He kept talking about double jeorpardy as if that gave him a life long pass.
That was another girl. She’s back with her family.
They gotta protect their white Jewish friends….duh
That doesn’t set my standard. IF everyone was killing babies I will not do it because everyone is doing it. That’s a feeble rebuttal.
Its the same girl. But a different tape.
Nothing wrong with SINGING about having $ex!
The problem comes when you are a GROWN Man HANGING out at High schools and playgrounds trying to RECRUIT young GIRLS for $ex! ALL the BLACK employees KNEW what his pedophile a$$ was doing and they said and did NOTHING!
Now you mad because he is going to get prosecuted for his predatory actions???
TOO MANY BLACK MEN MOLEST CHILDREN AND GET AWAY WITH IT! If the White man has to lock his Black A$$ up FINALLY, SO BE IT!
Who gives a PHUCK what Harvey Weinstein is doing? NOT ME because those women werent preyed upon on middle school playgrounds and high schools!
SPEAK!
February was Jussie Smollett Month. Looks like March is going to be R Kelly month.
Woody Allen married his step daughter
How the **** does this make him a CHILD molester? Why is he being hounded about having 2 LEGALLY aged girlfriends? Since when is that a crime? They are on a fishing expedition with this dude and it’s sickening at this point. I mean damn. U can tell they don’t have much to go on so they are now trying to “get him” for having two 20 something year old girlfriends? Give me a break.
Lawyer from Devry??
Lololol
I believe that because that crazy lawyer said… it was exactly the same but different girl…
Folk either don’t want to believe it.. or if they do they’ll say “what about this white man and that white man who did stuff too?”
…As if we need to protect our own criminals who victimize our people, because some white guy is getting away with stuff.
Who? You know I didnt read the write up per usual so humor me??
Ikr- ugh!
They’re trying to impress the white man.
Not accepting it is finding an excellent lawyer like Johnny Cochran who know how to navigate through that black law book to get their clients off or minimum time. There is a unique experience black American people deal with concerning racism in America. The American judicial system is set up for black Americans to fail starting at the 3rd grade.
Yup. And by the way, Harvey Weinstein’s rape trial is set for June 3rd… but negros keep talking about “what about Weinstein”, as if it should matter to us here.
Oh, cut the sorry crap. We see right through the deception to divert or spin away from perpetrator with ‘whatAboutism’ over there while alluding to racism.
The big difference in cases: everything changes once victims and/or their parents and others come forth in the media making it known to the public in addition to filing & pressing charges for justice.
When Black victims (or their family) file a police report, investigators & court/prosecutor and all have to follow through on the document created to see if charges should be filed or risk losing their own jobs.
Great lengths??? That man recorded $exual encounters with children.. That dude is a PLUM A$$ Short Bus riding FOOL???
I don’t know why some folks can’t let this register. Unfortunately, the rules and play book are definitely different. Damn shame..
??? wellllllllll I can’t argue that and that’s sad
You missed my whole point. A grown man singing words about bumping and grinding…….I was about 21 (telling my age) when that song came out and I thought it very odd that a grown azz man would be singing about bumping and grinding. Those were words used by children in those days not grown men. That was my first reaction to that song. When I heard about Aliyah way back then I was done with R. Kelly. Now 20 years later people are outraged. Come on now stop allowing demons with an agenda to control your thoughts. This ain’t got nothing to do with little black girls. Personally his azz needs to go to jail I don’t GAF.
Sure. I’d like to see him plead that he’s been insane for 30 years.
MJs Autopsy and Crime Scene report.. Dude had issues
https://archive.org/stream/251735-autopsy-0001-optimized/251735-autopsy-0001-optimized_djvu.txt
He had to use bump and grind because he couldnt say fuckin and it be played on the radio. Writers have always used wordplay in songs abt sex. Bump and grind isn’t specific to adolescent conversation.
Thank u for saying “play book” because that is what it is a play book and I only informed these folks because if you want to commit crimes it’s best that you know what you are up against.
right! End of story: He’s a ly-ah!
lol!
MJHD #2009 
Exactly ! Just do what’s right and u can never go wrong.
Actually, a lot of people are killing babies and that too has set the standard. That’s what becomes law of the land so to speak.
Just like O before her I’m not pressing play with Gayle, after his explanations after last time with Ed Gordon I was done.
I know they are and that’s why I said it! Like I said that isn’t my standard. Just do what is right and u can stay out of prison. Only white people can break the law and get away with it not your black a z z
Oh well after the 1st trial R Kelly should have got one adult woman and stopped a the crazy freaky mess that would draw attention. That’s what the white men do. They marry a respectable woman and hire prostitutes or go to “massage parlors” for all that freaky stuff.
Being a sugar daddy for a consenting adult is not the same as what seems like an admitting human trafficking of underage teens for s3x.
We can’t even label it a Sugar Daddy. Did he Not foolish say What kind of parents will sell their kids in exchange for money or that the deal all changed once he was sending $$$ to the parents? Pay attention. Nobody forced him to do & interview, act a fool uncontrollable & make such admission thinking he is smart, but only making his case easier for prosecutors & jurors. ijs
Apparently, they have proof of underage kids/teens claiming to be his victims in so many ways. Grooming impoverished kids with $$$ in exchange for all the claims now against him is not the definition of being a Sugar Daddy.
Thought RKelly said Azriel and Jocelyn live with him in Chicago
U stoopid!????
I thought you meant the one that was dressing as a boy.
He really dug his grave with this interview, next he gonna be tryna “hurt” himself… but just for sympathy cuz he loves himself too much to actually do something major to himself… This is what narcissists do when they backed into a corner, smdh!
Nah this the one that went back home to graduate highschool but turned around and went right on back to r Kelly.
I would’ve sent these girls home a long time ago. This arrogant dude let his entitlement to these girls bring his him down.
I SWEAR. I don’t know why this hasn’t been figured out yet. We are NOT equal.
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Azriel
They got Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby now rkelly, who’s next.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But he’s illiterate he didn’t know any better.
Yeah… In the docuseries, she went back home but left and went BACK to R Kelly.
Well let me see…..I wish Vegas was taking odds on this stuff I would be a rich bish! Ok I am going to put my money on Chris Brown.
That Ed Gordon interview was a hot mess!… He shouldn’t ever tried to do another interview after that one, smgdh!
My mama always said- and she was correct- the louder I yelled, the more my GUILT was confirmed.
Is R Kelly lying? No.
Womanizing, mack daddying, macking, playering, two timing, and man sharing have been unspoken cultural sexual norms and basis for “real” manhood for far too long in the black community.
Somebody taught R Kelly everything he knows through grooming and abuse and the man that learned him was learned by another man and so on and so on.
Anyone can look at and listen to R Kelly and see he his mentally challenged but he is a savant. So instead of getting him mental and educational help while also nurturing his talent as a young person and as a grown man, the authority figures and power brokers around him instead exploited, enabled, and profited off him.
Im over this Rkelly fiasco and the lynching going on in the industry of black artist…while using our own ppl to commit the public hanging!!! Nup!
I will NEVER forget the look on Ed Gordon’s face…. what’s that rascal doing these days?
I believe him! The parents of both girls are idiots. R.Kelly had a track record since the early 90’s. So why would you arrange for your daughter’s to meet him? For fame? For a ticket into the industry? Surely there had to have been other ways. This is bullshit.
Chile, OJ still ain’t figured the shit out.
Now he about to loose it all for some little girls that can’t do nothing for him but stroke his ego. I would’ve sent they ass home on a one-way and changed my number as soon as they started bringing this mess to the media!
It is double jeopardy if it is the same girl and time frame….that is why that sleezy lawyer is trying to say different girl.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed. We live on the same Planet but two different Worlds. Punishment has never been the same for whites as it has been for Blacks or any other minority in this country.
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That was another girl. She left went back and left again. She just had her mom. Azriel and Jocelyn had both parents on the show.
what some parents will dew for money….this fool pished her dawta right in harms way of a known pedophile
Let’s give Hef credit for straight up saying out loud that his friend Bill Cosby didn’t do anything that he and all the white stars were doing back then and he said in the press the only reason his friend Bill Cosby was being singled out was because he was black.
That sounds like a confession, taunt, and dare to come for him and the white men who did what Cosby did. No one ever came for the white men which was the point Hef was making.
He said it was a different time where is was the social norm to drug in relations. That’s why victims didn’t come forward until decades later when it was no longer the social norm.
Parents of sons must raise their boys to have extreme caution, discernment, and restraint socially. Sons must be raised polite, courteous, and reserved.
Yep, I don’t feel one way or another about his azz going to jail he needs to go for being a freaking idiot. My thing is STOP EXPLOITING BLACK WOMEN! We can be R. Kelly’s victims but we can’t be victims of the system that’s stacked against us. When we are discriminated against on jobs or by the legal system we are NOT victims. It seems the only way a black woman is considered a victim is only if it’s at the hands of a black man and I am sick of that narrative and I WILL REJECT IT ALL DAY LONG! Call it deflection it you want but I call it TRUTH!
Or he could’ve been a hoe like offset but with women that are clearly over 30 he’ll even 25…. bcus when I person is 18 that it’s hard to tell if the 15, 16, 17, or 18. Like what can a 50 find a attractive about a 18yr old… a pedo is who would find them attractive
These all coulda been 1 post. Auntie must get paid by traffic per story ?
In my world bumping and grinding was a adolescent term during that time. He is not talking about fawkin in that song. He is talking about bumping and grinding what kids who are inexperienced with sex do. Dry humping. That’s why he is saying ” I don’t see nothing wrong with a little bump and grind.” Grown folks KNOW it ain’t nothing wrong with it between 2 consenting adults but a child usually has been taught there is something wrong with doing those types of things. Most of his songs are written by him and I am sure his inspiration for some of his songs were……..yep you guessed it 13-14 year old girls.
I’m seeing Goldie in that movie theater scene brainwashing his hoes
I think he looks and sounds literally retarded.
His lawyers know what their doing.
All image salvaging is off the table this time. They cleaned him up and put him on tv to act out. Probably took him off meds for the interview. They’re going to pull out R Kelly’s medical records this time to save him from prison.
That man is on record as being mentally challenged, illiterate, and sexually abused. If his IQ is even at mild retarded level, he will not go to prison.
But his image and thus his career will be over.
Uhn, and a ‘notha one
Different victims
I think that girls name was Dominique
I think so too and that’s why his dumb azz is screaming double jeopardy
If it’s a different tape it’s not double jeopardy. New charges attached to the new tape
He’s in a Sister Wives polyamorous relationship. Its happening these days. Its the part of the underage girls thats the issue, Mr. Kelly.
He said the only help he needs is from having a big heart
Help help ?
Let him watch your daughter then
I’m pretty sure R Kelly chose to be interviewed. If Mario Batali doesn’t want to be interviewed on national television then you’ll be waiting a very long time. R Kelly said he wanted to get stuff off of his chest, they didn’t force him to do it. During the rant with Gayle he said he wanted the cameras to remain on, so I’m not sure what the point of your statement is. #NoShade
It’s not illegal to marry a person who isn’t your blood relative. Granted, it’s creepy as all hell and problematic on so many levels, but not illegal.
And you know that they “met” when she was 17 how?
Cardi B’s sister’s legal name is Henessey Carolina. Yes, they are naming children after anything these days. Luxury brands (Chanel), alcoholic beverages (Alizè), cars (Alexus). It’s a hot mess in these streets.
You can’t interview someone who’s not interested in being interviewed. It’s not like he’s obligated by law to sit down with any journalist and talk. Just as R. Kelly was under no obligation to do so.
That’s part of his kink. Just like serial killers keep trophies R. Kelly collects video trophies as well. Kinks don’t just stop because the whole scenario/ set up helps them get off. It’s sick.
Just cause someone offers to sell you their daughter doesn’t make you right for purchasing HELLO
I hope a rock knocks him out after it breaks the glass.
First off. I did not like how the lady sitting the closets to Gail said how she was afraid because he started pounding his fists and whatever else she said. She is trying to paint that picture that he is intimidating and is guilty. I did not like that at all !!!!!
Now, he may have very well done some things that they accused him of. He may be guilty. But this whole situation is just sad and very hurtful for all sides. The girls and him. Fame and the price of fame is a hell of a drug. And some people will do questionable things to achieve it.
Some of the ladies actions were questionable in that documentary.
I really didnt like how that lady said those things. Not once did I think he was going to harm Gail. And Gail should not have co signed and agreed with that lady.
I have been in relationships with guys that were players and it hurt me, but I got over it eventually and moved on. I can see some women do things out of malice when the guy is no longer interested and has played with her emotions.
Hun, it was sarcasm. That was the point. I’m not really actually waiting on an interview in real life, as I don’t even watch TV. I haven’t watched this R. Kelly drama. I haven’t watched this MJ drama. I don’t even watch the news. It was a joke. Ha. Ha. Hope this helps. :yeshrug:
We know the parents are scumbags and opportunists…that does not mean you are not a pervert Kellz
Absolutely. We can go out and commit the EXACT same crime, but hell…. what is the ending tho?? Well said!
Thanks for explaining. That’s why I said no shade. I really didn’t understand. It’s hard to catch tone through text sometimes and there’s so much whataboutism going on on this blog that I can’t always tell the real from the sarcasm
He is correct, and all 5 or 6 of the females know about each other and yet another reason black people are at the bottom of every socioeconomic measurement. Lack of morals will catch you every time…?
Right. This is **** ridiculous at this point. A real joke.
You can certainly tell he is not that bright. But, if he truly love those girls, he would not keep them from their families. This whole situation is just truly sad.
U mean the video from 20 years ago or a new one?
Chile sound like several of my exes. LMAO.. I can laugh now. Chile bye.
He’s not keeping them from their families….they have had SEVERAL visits from police.
Parallels to the “parents” who pimped their kids out to other big named entertainers. Hell you have regular females out here openly letting their boyfriends s crew their kids as well! All kinds of lowlifes out here today.
They need to lock up a LOT of other mothafuckas for statutory rape then….this is bullshit.
Nope.
You’re welcome. I joke A LOT on here. Most of the time I comment off of the pic and headline alone and not the write-up itself. I don’t care about a Mario, R. Kelly, MJ and the likes. I come here to pass the day away and 90% of my comments are in jest and sarcasm and not serious. It’s rare to see me on here after 330 on a weekday or anytime on nights and weekends.
What do Aaliyah’s parents think of that interview?
You know you’ve f-up big time if the older generation who never heard of R-uh has something to say. My 97 year old grandfather said “that n***a is going to the penitentiary!
This is a micro-scope into the black community…
SO in others words, let him sleep with fast girls and parents with the improper parenting skills.
Yeah okay, yall have bumped your heads.
I joke a lot too although I find some of the topics hard to joke about. R Kelly has bothered me for more than a decade so I think i’m just fed up about it at this point. Just exhausted with him and his shenanigans.
I was looking back at some of my comments/ jokes thinking that if you don’t know I’m playing around then I sound ignorant/ mean as hel? sometimes! ?
Call me the judge and the jury! House is as glass as it can be. I don’t give a damn. lol
Are you friends with him?
Handler?
Homie?
Lover?
Friend?
This!!! I been saying this we saw everybody say he made them dress as boys which we seen with all of them front row at his concert…think Joy is the only he’s let be a girl the whole time but yea after the documentary he changed that lil pesky rule smdh
LOL
Illiterate has nothing to do with it. There were lots of illiterate slaves that had enough sense not to get involved with a White woman. This fool is just arrogant and believes he’s invincible.
No, they said that on the news when he was arrested. The police have been there several times doing welfare checks and say the girls are fine. The police said the girls are not being held captive.
????
I say that because if he could read what the internet has been saying about his azz since wayback he would have known better. But because his azz is illiterate he has to depend on his handlers to spoon feed him the information. This man is a prisoner of his own ignorance.
Pedophilia and child pornography is deplorable and a crime.
Having two adult gf’s is not, and shouldn’t even be apart of this investigation or interview. I feel it diminishes the real problems and crimes.
Delusional!!
‘They’ did?
DUH…Harvey ain’t talking he’s on bail awaiting his trial
If it’s a different incident from the one he was tried on in the first trial then it’s a different charge.
I think i’m just fed up about it at this point. Just exhausted with him and his shenanigans.
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See I can’t let anybody that I know and especially don’t know take that type of energy from me. I shall not be moved.
And I feel the same way about your last statement. I can come off as mean and ignorant, IF you don’t know me. However, I also feel that people that don’t know how to communicate, ALWAYS think something is an argument. I’ve learned that you can’t play with everybody as they don’t come from the same place as you. So I get it.
avenatti says new one with new girl. i did not watch this so i don’t know what R’s response was. for them to bring new charges, it can’t be the original one that was played in court.
This statement confirmed he is retarded. His statement is true, but he missed the part where he was the man that purchased them
LOL
they TRIED but they’re busy with MJ and RK. chris was brought up a month or so ago.
The adult women made that choice to be with him so….
ohhhh well he may have a case then. why would avenatti do that? the girl said it wasn’t her last time and she’s gonna say it wasn’t her this time.
Right! lol
I believe the shameless parents sold their daughters to him in hopes that their daughter would be the next Aaliyah. As if that’s even possible. In terms of financial selling no but turning the other way or a blind eye yes. Most definitely.
if it’s the same girl, she gonna say it ain’t her; it’s some mystery chick. but then again, if the child is saying “14 year old puzzay” then we are to believe she’s really 14. that must be it.
r. kelly was the first artist to sing about sex now. folk going too far with this lol
He is certified mentally challenged.
He’s not just illiterate. There are many illiterate people who are not mentally challenged. Throughout history there were people who could not read or write who lead righteous and positive and normal lives. R Kelly is mentally challenged. In addition to not being able to read and write, he is mild functioning retarded. He is also a savant, where a mentally retarded person is genius in one area or talent.
The adults in his life failed him miserably.
Meanwhile, looks like Harry Weinstein has slipped through the cracks. They aren’t even talking about him anymore.
R – you forgot the most important thing; flip some furniture!
If you feel like they are lying then you wouldn’t have had a problem sending your kids. The shit was just strange. The fact you can’t understand the correlation speaks volumes about you. I bet you also believe the democratic party is the way to go and Christianity wasn’t forced on black folks during slavery too.
100% agree
So the girl Jocelyn reaches out to her parents and of course the first thing they did was sent the video to TMZ ????? Idk at this point what their goal is first I’m thinking maybe they doing this to keep the press involved so they can keep the case going but then I’m thinking maybe they have another motive idk. This is making my head hurt
Exactly! Let’s say no “molestation” took place. The shit was weird. Hell, I woke up with a family member jacking off standing over me as a child but yet I wasn’t technically molested. I just can’t understand why people are so hell bent not to believe these boys.
However, RKelly is taken down let it be that. I haven’t jammed Kelly since the first early 2000 because of his behavior. How many of y’all can say the same?
GOne go in the closet and take a bunch of aspirins like Fantasia did when she was getting all that backlash for dating that married man that worked at T-Mobile I don’t think her career ever recovered fully after that
Truth.
That sounds like how gma would say that! Yes!
Jussie ?
The way Dominique’s mother handled her makes me think that she always spoke calmly to her. It appears that they kept in touch for her Mama to know what kind of hotels they stayed in. After the other parents came out then she got alarmed that her child wasn’t ok. She left room for her to want to come home. Joycelyn’s parents are bumrushing and recording and getting no results.
I can say since the 90’s after the Aliyah thing. I have been done with R. Kelly but I can’t stand a railroad job.
They couldn’t beat that dead horse MJ anymore so what they do. CREATE a new one.
It’s not about watching it’s about dating & he is free to date as many as he likes. They all say there happy so what’s the big deal.
He byke in jail. Where deadbeat ninjas belong. Toodles
You got to see that sex tape to appreciate/understand what kind of liar he is. People who don’t understand this level of deception cannot fathom that someone who is reacting/behaving this way is actually straight up damn lying. His “a” is lying. Lying! Lying! Lying like you ain’t never seen before.
Why is he on TV? If he just wanted to rant, he can rant and rave all day on IG live or Youtube.
Where have you been chile…the issue is his taste for underage girls….not him dating multiple women
Granddaddy know what he talkin bout!
Leave this man alone. It’s crazy. He appears to have been doing the right thing now they bringing up dirt from 20 years ago
you stupid as f*ck. what i do what my children has no bearing on whether a person is a liar or not. what f*cking correlation are you talking about? my point is i have the same standard for everybody; i don’t give a f*ck whether they are michael jackson or not. i don’t know what’s going on in ANYBODY’s home–sex, guns, environment, etc. i don’t let my kids loose around strangers, period. FOH with your bullshit and stay out of my f*cking comments.
Don’t remember any of those girls families looking for them. I also don’t remember rumors of Hefner smashing 13 year olds either.
LOL!!! Is DeVry still open?
Cause he don’t want to be interviewed by her….
The thing I’m concerned about if the fact that these girls are decoy for all the young 13-16 year olds he’s housing all over the country.
The parents unfortunately need to keep this drama going to keep the part they played in it. They absolutely needed to hire a lawyer. Azriel threw her mom under the bus for Robert, by stating she lied to the police. Robert was flying her from Orlando to Chicago on weekend trips while in High School. So he definitely knew her age. He needed her birthday to book airline flights so Azriel can sit her brainwashed ass down somewhere. She better hope there’s no video of she and Jocelyn “ training” young 13 & 14 year olds.
There’s a few IG pages from people on the inside posting hella receipts.
I also think his assets are frozen under that Human Trafficking Executive order.
Chile… I dont see their commercials anymore… Come to think about it, I dont see University of Phoenix anymore either..
Think theyve been replace by Strayor University..
I can’t…
…and now that he is back in jail, then they should be free to leave, right? They didn’t leave the first time.
Like he said, “hate” him if you want, he ain’t holding those WOMEN hostage.
He a dead beat sperm donor
Thought you going to say he 52 raising that 21 and 23 year old. But okay ??
Folks think human trafficking is joke. It will land you under the prison.
Interesting and sad comment.
Them h..s grown
I dont hate him. I’ve worked mentally retarded previously. He needs help. Anytime AARP SENIOR is screwing 21 and 23 year girls. Especially knowing he got herpes, where they going? No man wants them, they been RAN through.
And he’s probably telling the truth. Men with no valor or integrity are probably the ones he saw growing up.
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