Oprah Winfrey featured transsexual Thomas Beattie, who is 5 months pregnant, and his “wife” on her show yesterday. I shook my head as Oprah fed into the couple’s delusions that Beattie was a pregnant man. Over and over Oprah repeated (for the benefit of Beattie’s psyche) that Beattie was a man and she incorrectly stated that Beattie had a penis.
In fact, Beattie’s vagina is intact as are her female reproductive organs. Beattie has no penis.
We learned a lot from Oprah yesterday – and I hope your kids were watching because it was monumental. Oprah basically taught us that all it takes to be a man is some facial hair and no breasts. Did anyone mention that to God? It seems to me that God went to all that trouble of creating two separate sexes for nothing.
According to the mighty Oprah – and let’s not forget People magazine – God should have created all humans as females and then let the females decide whether they wanted to be men or not. Think of it: if God had created all females there would be no wars, no Holocaust, no triple digit budget deficit (since women manage money so much better than men), and there would be no September 11.
Oh, wait, I just discovered a flaw in my theory: If God created all women from the very beginning, He would have had to create prehistoric turkey basters for the cave women to impregnate each other with.
I agree with u Sandra.
you know what i do not judge because that’s god’s job, but i have a really problem with this, these people want it both ways and its sick ,ok , if you want to be a man that’s your choice and you will be dealt with later, but men don’t have babies, and that’s what makes me sick, if you wanna be gay thats you but don’t change our marriage laws the correct way of doing things just like this MEN DON’T HAVE BABIES and you should have thought about that before you changed your sex, if your women can’t have a baby then adopt or whatever people do to have kids that can’t, this world is going to hell in a handbasket they are a disgrace, its a shame and point blank sick, what are we teaching and showing our kids this world is so contridictive how can i teach my kids when they see pregnant men, and women kissing women men kissing me, lord help us, all i know is to get my house ready for the lord, as for my house we shall serve the lord, sick, sick sick
It seems to me that God went to all that trouble of creating two separate sexes for nothing.
No you didn’t bring God into this. The bible states that homosexuality is a vile abomination. Do you agree with that?
Wow. What is this world turning into. My 9 year old son asked me this morning about this issue and I had no idea what to say. How can you explain to a 9 year old that a woman took drugs to make her more masculine, lived as a man, and now she wants to be a woman? Lord Have Mercy on us All
So I suppose u don’t Bird.I believe the Bible in that aspect but I don’t believe that God loves the Homosexuals any less than any of the rest of us.He just does not like the sin;the same way he doesn’t like us lying,stealing,and fornicating.The problem is that we like to interpret the Bible for our own benefit and say well I agree with this part b/c it doesn’t apply to me but the part that applies to me wasn’t really meant the way it sounds.
Her DNA states she’s a woman … PERIOD … I stopped watching Oprah when she said she “lives in the place where God is” … I am speechless really … shaking my head (smh) … smh… smh … smh
I agree with Sandra too. I was SO DISAPPOINTED in Oprah yesterday for even acknowledging that this “story” exists. I was waiting on Oprah to be like,”Can we just admit that you’re just another pregnant woman, dressed as a man?” I mean really, there is NOTHING important about this story. It’s not like an actual, biological man is pregnant. She (Oprah) lost some MAJOR cool points with me, and makes me wonder about what SHE identifies with… ya know?
wtf? this is crazy. if that man or whatever it is/was pregnant, he would be a millionaire.
I can not stand oprah and I will be glad when people quit putting her ass on pedal stool. She is so damn fake and funny to her own people she could have have luda on her show with the rest of the cast from crash but she can have this person on her wtf? Get the fuck outta here oprah can get the balls in her mouth
I am surprised at Oprah. She is increasingly becoming out of touch, and needs to mingle more with the average everyday normal person.
oooh Bird… I don’t think she’ll answer that.
Legally he’s a man, and he claims to have a penis.
Lol @ Bird…
This society is so sick! That’s why I am packing up and leaving because, I’ll be damned if I have to raise my children here! No morals! I would never have my kids near that thing… And you know they’ll be teaching them in school that it is ok for daddy to have a baby too…
Oprah is a human being and not some almighty persn. Human beings can be idiots at times and Oprah & her guest proved that. This was not a show that you allow your children to watch because it is complete nonsense! It is a sad & confusing story even though it brings them joy.. How will they explain this to their child? Daddy gave birth to you? That is going to TOTALLY confuse that poor child! Gross!
you’re right Sandra, this is a freak show! Jerry Springer all the way!
I watched part of the show yesterday until I couldn’t take it anymore. I’m with you Sandra. This is a low for Oprah. She’s lost some credibility and respect with this one. This woman is clearly NOT a man. I’ve always believed that no matter how many surgeries you try to get to change your sex, you’re still who God made you. Just like if you buy a Buick you can’t change it into a Benz–no matter how much chrome you put on it. You still look like someone with a Buick that looks similar to a Benz and everyone knows it, laughs at it, and goes on about their day. But Oprah, she let that she-man ride around in his tricked-out Buick for an hour all over her stage. SMH
I have asked the question a hundred x is Sandra really Gay or are ya’ll joking b/c I’ve only been here a lil while.
pinkvirgo Says:
So I suppose u don’t Bird.
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I really don’t. I thought my town was like any other town, but clearly it isn’t. I went to elementary school with no less than 3 boys who were clearly gay in kindergarten (sp?). I didn’t know what gay was at the time (neither did they) and we just called them sissy’s, but they were clearly gay as 5 year olds and they grew up to be gay men. One guy I know even tried to get cured in church and lived a lie for as long as he could. Homosexuality is not a choice. Who would chose that? I believe they are born the way they are. We all know the Bible was written by men. Flawed men. Lying men. Judgemental men. Sinful men. I don’t believe everything that is in the Bible. That is a correct assessment. I have a personal relationship with God that is not defined totally by the Bible. I have to ask Him for guidance when reading the Bible which is filled with conflicting stories. I will not judge gay people when I know they were simply born that way.
I didn’t see the show, but what I gather from the comments is that Queen Oprah wanted herself and everyone else to believe that that woman carrying that child was actually a man? Now I don’t know about the rest of yall, but if THAT WOMAN was an actual MAN, how the hell did IT get pregnant. Last I checked, women were the only species that could have babies. Although science tries to dictate that over The Almighty’s creation, it still reigns supreme that women have children NOT men.
pinkvirgo
I don’t know Sandra personally so I can’t state beyond a reasonable doubt that she is gay, but she does claim to be gay and I have no problem with that whatsoever.
WHAT IS ALL OF THIS HOMOSEXUAL TALK?! HE IS TRANSGENDER AND THAT IS NOT A SEXUAL ORIENTATION…YOU CAN BE TRANSGENDER AND NOT BE HOMOSEXUAL. AND PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO GET OFF OF THIS “BEING GAY IS UNNATURAL” IF THATS THE CASE THEN MOST OF THINGS THAT EVERYONE DOES WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SIN. PAINTING YOUR NAILS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SIN BECAUSE ITS UNNATURAL FOR YOU TO DO THAT. PROCESSING YOUR HAIR WOULD BE A SIN BECAUSE THATS UNNATURAL, THE ONLY PURPOSE OF HAIR IS TO COVER YOUR HEAD.
I believe that you can be delivered from anything but I’d be here all day talking about that.I do not believe that babies are born Gay. I grew up with a boy in my neighborhood who was very feminine at young age as well and he is now a homosexual man and I don’t believe that he was born gay.You have control over who you choose to be with.If I don’t ever want to have sex with a man again I don’t have to and I’m a woman.You don’t die from not acting on your sexual urges.I don’t feel like you’re automatically going to hell if you are gay and being straight does’nt give you a ticket to heaven either a sin is a sin no matter how you wrap it up and their all wrong. I am by no means an angel so I don’t go around condeming ppl to hell b/c I don’t have that right.
So, is this the world we live in today?I’m trying to gather my thoughts because I don’t know what to say.Scientist, or sick scientist or people who just bored with their life always try to trick the norm.Men don’t have babies, be gay, but a man having babies??The fuck?I’m confusing my damn self.This shit is sick.Sideways twisted.Scientifically wrong.What’s wrong with adopting?They couldn’t adopt?Or no, wait they wanted to the “first.” This is some straight up bullshit.
@ kitty4shigady and not to mention she had rapist, the kkk and people like that and couldn’t even respect him on the stage.Oprah should be shamed.No pride Oprah????
i dont know why u all are bashin oprah. OPRAH INVITED HIM (HER) ON HER SHOW, wouldnt u expect the guest to be treated like he would like to be treated? oprah DID NOT WANT TO CRUSH HER GUEST’S EGOS. why would oprah openly bash him on national tv tellin him he is woman, etc. OPRAH IS NOT TO BLAME FUH THAT. she should be blamed for invitin him, but since he was on the show OPRAH IS OBLIGED TO ADDRESS HIM THE WAY HE WANTED TO BE ADDRESSED.
like any news media in the world THIS STORY IS TOP NEWS, and oprah being a media person WOULD LIKE SOME OF THE NEWS TOO ON HER SHOW.
DONT BLAME OPRAH FUH CALLIN HER A MAN, BUT BLAME OPRAH FOR INVITIN HIM ON THE SHOW. there is a difference if u guys understand wat i mean.
@how u explain it to the children? TEACH THEM THE BIBLE, THE BIBLE SHOULD BE THE TRAININ BOOK FUH ALL PARENTS WHEN RAISIN THEIR CHILDREN. INSTILL IN THEIR MINDS THAT SUCH AND SUCH IS RIGHT/WRONG. DONT LET MEDIA RAISE UR KIDS, FOLKS. TELL THE CHILD THAT A WOMAN CAN ONLY HAVE A BABY, AND THAT A MAN AND WOMAN SHOULD BE MARRIED.
BTW, GOD DOES NOT HATE HOMOSEXUALS, HE HATES THE SIN. WE ALL ARE HIS CHILDREN, SOME OF US ARE DISOBEDIENT AND OTHER ARENT.
Bird, I’m curious to know your take on the following. You claim to not believe everything in the Bible because it was written by men who were liars, flawed, judgmental and sinful. If you believe in the Bible then you believe that it is the word of God, GIVEN to man. How can you pick and choose which parts of the Bible you feel are truthful and which ones you feel are not? The same way you say you ask God for guidance when reading the Bible, is the same way these men were guided by God when writing the BIble. Furthermore, what makes your OPINION that homosesual people are “born that way” any more valid than someone’s OPINION that they choose a homosexual lifestyle?
I agree w/ u sandra…..completely
Who would choose that?
Me and my husband have this discussion often. He says it’s against GOD and that it is a choice. I say why would someone choose to be gay only to be shamed, cursed, discrimminated against. I think some ppl may choose it because of being sexually abused or being bi curious. But I have always believed that they were born that way.
The Bible should only be a reference.God is not judging anybody who doesn’t read the bible and follow anything it says because he didn’t write it.He’s judging how you living your life-how you treat people regardless of their skin tone, race, even sexuality.You, as a human has a mind of your own to figure out what is right or wrong in “your” life and apply it to daily living.You live your life, other people will live theirs.This is the issue with Christianity now, let people live their lives.But when shit like men poppin’ out babies, there is an issue.
You choose who you sleep with or if you choose to sleepp with anyone at all.So that makes it a choice.
Why do ya’ll keep saying God didn’t write the Bible. If I read to you everything I want you to write in a book but you physically write does that make it your book.
@sharonda ok girl what;s really going or how abour how she had that doctor who did the surgery on Kanye’s mom she was all on his nut sack praising him and he was not even a certified surgeon.
Again I will say I have no respect for her she is full of shyt and I don’t like her ass SO AGAIN OPRHA BALLLLZZZZZZZ IN YO MOUTH!!!!!!!
oh boy…if homosexuals were born gay that would have to mean that God is unjust…and He is not…why would He create people as homosexuals and then turn around and say homoseuality is a gross sin deserving of death?….this is a willfull sin…God knows that we all are imperfect that’s why He gives us a chance to change….how can we expect blessings from Him but yet not expect to have to work for our blessings?..every living thing owes it’s exsistance to God our creator…people will agree that they owe God something but they are not sure what…the only thing that we can give Him is our obedience and our praise….try to pattern your life by the bible and it won’t be a perfect life but it will be more peaceful…and yes Oprah messed up on this one….dang….
you know it’s good to be accepting of everyone and all in today’s world BUT O is going to the extreme with this. her power is not always directed in the right way. dang oprah! we are glad u give so much to the community and those in need BUT i pray you think before you speak so freely what is not truth love.
GOD DID write the Bible. It just written physically by man.
Wanted to add: Man COULD NOT have written it without HIM.
@abhor god made you what he wanted you to be, i mean i hate when people try to justify wrong, i mean not saying you gotta be perfect but at least admit its wrong,like me i smoke i KNOW its wrong, i am not trying to justify why smoking is right cuz its wrong and i thing god will be more happy with you admitting and trying to do better ,i mean and she is homo because she is still a woman with a woman point blank, and god didn’t write the bible he gathered men his dispciles to write what he said and what they saw, i live by it and i believe and i feel sorry for this world people always trying to justify,, I have alot of respect for this blogger on perezhilton they were having this same conversation and he was gay but he said i am gay and i know its wrong don’t be dillusional , about the kids , i don’t let media raise mine their are not allowed to watch certain programs and i talk all the time about the lord but its still hard because my 4 year old is not old enough to understand why is she kissing that lady or vice versa, and still really to young to quite understand the bible and its teaching.
@gemini83 i couln’t have said it better than that although i tried he wrote it but it was physically written by men PERFECT!
I agree with gemini83. The bible was divinely inspired. We all are human and fall short of the glory of God. He loves us all. Men, women, trangender, gay, lesbian, etc…… With every breath that we take, we are given another chance at salvation. Rather than exhort people that we think are doing wrong, we need to pray for them and bring them to Christ. Once they are empowered by the Holy Spirit, they can then make a decision about they life based on their own conviction.
All of this hatred needs to stop. All of the ugliness in this world needs to stop.
Sorry, meant their life based on their own convictions.
jamil2008 Says:
I watched part of the show yesterday until I couldn’t take it anymore. I’m with you Sandra.
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I didn’t stop watching, but I did turn down the sound once I realized Oprah wasn’t going to challenge the absurdity of a pregnant female calling herself a man.
@ toosexy….
What you over there smokin on? LMAO….don’t mind me. You don’t have to answer that. LOL
Bird Says:
The bible states that homosexuality is a vile abomination. Do you agree with that?
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There’s a lot of things in the Bible that I don’t agree with.
SANDRA ROSE..
There’s a lot of things in the Bible that I don’t agree with.
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WOW….
SANDRA ROSE..
There’s a lot of things in the Bible that I don’t agree with
Too bad it doesn’t matter.
Stop playing yall! They did this ish for insurance/financial purposes. And that “wife” disgusts me.
First of all I LOVE THIS BLOG!!! You guys are the shiznit. I blog all over the place and Sandra has the best audience by far man. Yall are making my day right now.
bk2atl Says:
I don’t believe that the Bible is the necessarily the word of God. How do you account for all of the contradictions? How do you account for the fact that Soloman, who was as materialistic as Diddy, was considered a great man? Heck my aunt thinks Peter was gay based on his writings against marraige. There are so many things that don’t make a lick of sense. Then there is the biggest problem of all. The Bible was writen before and after the birth of Christ yet He didn’t write one word of it and the Bible tells us precious little about Him.
bk2atl Says:
Furthermore, what makes your OPINION that homosesual people are “born that way” any more valid than someone’s OPINION that they choose a homosexual lifestyle?
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I didn’t say it was more valid. I’m only speaking from my experience. I refuse to believe that a 3, 4, 5 year old boy choses to act like a girl which subjects them to ridicule and physical abuse as a child. I think they would change it if they could and I have seen them try. Look at Donnie McClurkin who claims he’s cured. To me he’s just morphed into a DL dude because of shame and guilt caused by his belief in the teachings of the Bible. I also don’t think it’s all about sex. You can be celebate and still be gay.
I don’t condemn people for their opinions no matter how crazy I might view them to be. I know that if I think the opposite then they think my opinion is equally crazy. That’s ok, but I still like to discuss our differances and try to win people over to my side like we all do.
God has performed miracles in my life. Real miracles. Ones that I have asked for and some that I haven’t. I KNOW He exists. But the Bible is far too confusing and contradictory for me to accept out of hand that it is totally true.
@GEMINI83 ITS THE INTERNET SO I SMOKE WEED, THAT’S MY BIGGEST HOLD UP BUT I PRAY ABOUT IT AND I KNOW IT DUE TIME I WILL BE FREE, BUT I DON’T GLAMORIZE IT ONLY MY FAMILY KNOW WHAT I DO, THAT WAS JUST TO SAY THAT YES GOD DOES LOVE US ALL BUT THAT DON’T MEAN DO WHAT YOU FEEL CUZ HE LOVES YOU AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE LOST IF THEY CAN’T EVEN ADMIT WHAT THEIR DOING IS NOT RIGHT, AND ASK GOD FOR HELP, THERE IS NOT JUSTIFICATION FOR SIN EXCEPT WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND FALL SHORT OF HIS GLORY. ALL OF US HAVE OUR SINS THAT DIFFER BUT ACKNOWLEDGE AND PRAY THAT’S ALL I CAN SAY.
@BTKL THAT WAS THE MIRACLE , TO SHOW GODS GLORY AND WHAT HE CAN DO THAT’S THE PURPOSE SOME OF HIS GREATEST MEN WERE MUREDERS LIKE PAUL BUT THAT WAS TO SHOW US THAT HE CAN HEAL AND BRING YOU FROM IT ALL JUST LIKE GAY PEOPLE, HOW CAN HE SHOW HIS GREATNESS IF THESE THINGS AND MIRACLAE DIDN’T OCCUR THINK ABOUT IT HOW CAN YOU SAY I CAN DELIVER ANYHTING WITH NO TESTIMONY, GOD DID THAT HE TOOK THOSE THAT WERE LOST AND SHOWED HIS MIGHT. AND THE DEVIL TEMPS US JUST LIKE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE BI-CURIOUS BUT YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG AND REMIND YOURSELF OF WHAT GOD SAID AND KNOW THAT THE DEVIL TEMPS UP LIKE HE DID JESUS IN THE WILDERNES GOD UNDERSTANDS THAT, AND I THINK WE FORGET HOW POWERFUL THE DEVIL IS ALSO, AND SOMETIMES YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE BIBLE TO.
I agree with miguellopez…
God doesn’t HATE homosexuals, he hates their willful sin.
AND PLEASE PEOPLE – stop interpreting the bible to fit your own twisted lifestyles! God hates homosexuality, it’s wrong …end of story. If you wanna be gay – go right ahead, I’m not here to judge you. I just wanna warn you.
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bk2atl Says:
I don’t believe that the Bible is the necessarily the word of God. How do you account for all of the contradictions? (HONEY, IF YOU READ IT IN CONTEXT, YOU WOULDNT BE SO CONFUSED. DIFFERENT THINGS APPLIED AT DIFFERENT TIMES.)
How do you account for the fact that Soloman, who was as materialistic as Diddy, was considered a great man? (SOLOMAN WASN’T PERFECT, GOD BLESSED HIM WITH THOSE THINGS – BUT IT EVENTUALLY GOT TO HIS HEAD – PLS READ). Heck my aunt thinks Peter was gay based on his writings against marraige. (PETER WASN’T AGAINST MARRIAGE – HE JUST SAID IT WAS BETTER FOR A MAN TO NOT BE MARRIED, BECAUSE HE CAN FOCUS ON GOD AND THINGS OF GOD. MARRIED MENS INTEREST ARE DIVIDED, THEY HAVE “EARTHLY DUTIES”.)
Learn your bible and please stop listening to your auntie, she will lead you straight to the pits of hell.
Thanks.
HE JUST SAID IT WAS BETTER FOR A MAN TO NOT BE MARRIED,
aprilshowers Says:
BECAUSE HE CAN FOCUS ON GOD AND THINGS OF GOD. MARRIED MENS INTEREST ARE DIVIDED, THEY HAVE “EARTHLY DUTIES”.)
Learn your bible and please stop listening to your auntie, she will lead you straight to the pits of hell.
Thanks.
This is why you have to pray for God to show you the true meaning of his words for yourself b/c ppl will lead you astray including some Pastors.You have to read the Bible yourself.It’s an oxymoron to say you believe you believe in JESUS CHRIST but you don’t believe the Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit and the word of God.
Oprah is going to loose a lot of viewers with all of this new free for all ish she’s preaching. She’s lost me with A New Earth and all that goobly gook.
And I am SURE that this woman wasn’t the first pregnant STUD. I felt sorry for the woman though. She was clearly seeking a mother figure in her “wife”.
Oprah kept calling her a woman because now, since reading A New Earth she doesn’t believe in labels.
My bad I copied “bk2atl says” and forgot to take off the “says” I was just addressing him/her because he/she asked me a question.
Aprilshowers
Thanks for the explanation, but it doesn’t begin to explain away the inconsistencies. I don’t believe for a second that God blesses people with an over abundance of useless material possessions when there are people starving and no person or even the Bible can make me buy that. Those gifts are from the devil and the worship of them has led us to where we are today. Just as people use their religious books to justify war you are now attacking my aunt who loves the Lord and studies the Bible. She got what she got from it and you get what you get and I get what I get.
I have posed these same questions to my former pastor and my cousin who is the most devout Christian I know and they have told me it can’t be explained by man and that you have to pray before reading so that the message can be revealed through all the confusion and inconsistency so that is what I have done. What I got was that it was written by flawed men, you got something else, my aunt got something else. Lets not get too personal here. How would you like it if I attacked a family member of yours that loved and cared for you?
I mean she kept calling her a MAN….
bk2atl Says:
Bird, I’m curious to know your take on the following. You claim to not believe everything in the Bible because it was written by men who were liars, flawed, judgmental and sinful. If you believe in the Bible then you believe that it is the word of God, GIVEN to man. How can you pick and choose which parts of the Bible you feel are truthful and which ones you feel are not
How do we know Man(flawed sinners) didnt pick and choose what parts of gods word or how it was said? Or during the MANY translations, languages and years the bible has been rewritten the messages got a little confusing?
If you watched the show, you’d know that this person was born, and pretty much still is a woman. So, there is no biological mystery behind how Thomas got pregnant.
But I think it’s sad the all of you people judge so quickly and freely. This couple demonstrated a love for each other that was so obvious it was almost tangible. And that’s all that matters. They are happy. The wife’s older children are happy for them and outside of that, who give a fuck what anybody else thinks? I can almost guarantee you that this child will grow up in a more stable home than most of us did! There is too much hate in this world for us to add to it!
If you don’t agree with something YOU don’t have to do it! But leave other people alone! MIND YOUR BUSINESS!
I think you all are hypocrites and ought to be ashamed of yourselves!
I agree with what you said about God going through all that trouble of making two seperate genders for no reason.
NOBODY RESPECTS HIS PLAN
pinkvirgo Says:
SANDRA ROSE..
There’s a lot of things in the Bible that I don’t agree with
Too bad it doesn’t matter.
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Look at who wrote the Bible: one of the Disciples was a known drunk. That’s a fact. Plus the Bible was written 6000 years ago but it doesn’t explain the fact that the earth is hundreds of millions of years old. Remember the dinosaurs? They walked the earth 65 million years ago. Where is that mentioned in the Bible?
HunE916
As you can see, I didn’t address the couple because I didn’t watch the show (talk shoes aren’t my cup of tea). Had I addressed it I would have said exactly what you said. And while I disagree with Sandra’s discrimination against gays who want to be the opposite sex of what they are we are 100% in agreement about the Bible which I do read and get guidance from WITH PRAYER.
Sandra I totally agree with u.
I know we’re getting way off topic here BUT Sandra, I understand what you are saying about the Bible, but how do you feel, in general, about God? Here is the latest video to hit the Internet about how Oprah feels about God and Jesus…
I used to be a big fan of hers, but over the years, I noticed that she’s really changed. See for yourself what she’s now promoting on her show (A New Earth).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA
All I got to say is…. OPRAH done lost her damn Mind! by doing this show… She has went “Bien foo” ( that means good and crazy in creole) I dont support that heffa one bit…
Now on to this topic again…. OH YEAH WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?
You ain’t a man unless you have a D I C K between your legs!
We ARE truly in the last days.
Hune916 who are you to call someone a hypocrite? I don’t believe that anyone here is doing anything but having an intelligent conversation.Homosexuality is a sin call it what you want to call it.It’s not the only sin but it is a sin.I am not judging how anyone lives their life b/c I am not perfect and I have no heaven or hell to put anyone in.You act like someones posting Kill all the homos today.Just b/c u disagree with what some of has to say you don’t have a right to call us hypocrite.
HunE916 Says:
I can almost guarantee you that this child will grow up in a more stable home than most of us did!
I doubt that you can guarantee that.You watched those ppl for an hour you have no idea who they are.
Who cares if one of the disciples was a known drunk.This speaks to the God I serve he is a God of new beginnings,he does not hold against us what we did the day before like man does,if we ask for forgiveness with a pure heart we are forgiven .I am sure you all heard the song and it says saved a WRETCH like me. jesus saves us from our sickness(sin) and if we weren’t sick we would’nt need him.So of course one disciple was a drunk,Mary Magdalene was a whore and I could go on and on noone in the Bible and in the world is perfect except for Jesus Christ and that is why we need Grace.
Wow @ some of these comments!
My take on this is I am not here to judge, I feel that the judging should be left up to God so we can all call it a day and keep it moving. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion but theres a fine line between an opinion and a judgement.
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bk2atl Says:
I don’t believe that the Bible is the necessarily the word of God. How do you account for all of the contradictions? (HONEY, IF YOU READ IT IN CONTEXT, YOU WOULDNT BE SO CONFUSED. DIFFERENT THINGS APPLIED AT DIFFERENT TIMES.)
How do you account for the fact that Soloman, who was as materialistic as Diddy, was considered a great man? (SOLOMAN WASN’T PERFECT, GOD BLESSED HIM WITH THOSE THINGS – BUT IT EVENTUALLY GOT TO HIS HEAD – PLS READ). Heck my aunt thinks Peter was gay based on his writings against marraige. (PETER WASN’T AGAINST MARRIAGE – HE JUST SAID IT WAS BETTER FOR A MAN TO NOT BE MARRIED, BECAUSE HE CAN FOCUS ON GOD AND THINGS OF GOD. MARRIED MENS INTEREST ARE DIVIDED, THEY HAVE “EARTHLY DUTIES”.)
Learn your bible and please stop listening to your auntie, she will lead you straight to the pits of hell.
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Actually, that was Bird responding to one of my questions to her….that’s NOT my quote.
My 2 cents: All I can say is that scripture interprets scripture, anything else you have to pray for. Don’t go judging the bible unless you have read it in all its context: cover to cover.
To all of you who state that they believe in the bible in its entirety — please stop deluding yourselves!
Here is just a small example of all of “gods words” that we choose not to follow (because we are not crazy!)
DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
DEUTERONOMY 22:22
If a married person has sex with someone else’s husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
MARK 10:1-12
Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.
LEVITICUS 18:19
The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman’s period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.
DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy’s genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
oh yeah, don’t forget, according to the bible eating shellfish (and pork!), wearing different fabrics at the same time, and women going out during their periods are all no no’s. you sinners!
All I gotta say is WOW! We got kids killing kids….here in the United States….20 in Chicago already…..Why hasn’t Oprah addressed this on her show????
I wonder…..I really really wonder….
just so you know, the food stuff is Leviticus 11, in which God tells Moses that the people must not eat pork or rabbit or shrimp or lobster, or anything in the seas and rivers that does not have fins and scales? “Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the water shall be an abomination to you,” Leviticus says.
Just trying to point out the hypocrisy. You cannot pick and choose your bible verses. if you take the homosexuality stuff literally, you should be following all of the other mandates (by the reasoning of some).
maema Says:
To all of you who state that they believe in the bible in its entirety — please stop deluding yourselves!
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I will be praying for you tonight. *singing-Please believe me!
You are absolutely crazy.
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I was just about to clock out and that foolishness made me log back in!! Have a nice weekend everyone!!!!
Thank you maema!Self-righteous people kill me every time.We all sin but when people start fooling nature, our days are numbered.
@ Pinkvirgo
I’m calling you ALL hypocrites who have nothing but bad things to say, PERIOD! Everybody got something to say about someone else’s business when the people you’re talking about are just expressing THEIR version of love they way that THEY see fit! I’m not saying what they are doing is right and I’m not saying that it’s wrong, I’m saying it is not ME, it is not MY family, so why would I feel the right to judge so harshly?
I don’t think they are doing this to gross anyone out or to get on the news! I do not think they will burn in hell nor will their children! If THEY are happy with what THEY are doing- FINE!
And for folks that don’t know what to tell their children, then you need to break out an anatomy book! Thomas was born a woman and internally still is one! Therefore- CAN GET PREGNANT!
Bottom line is, I am disgusted with all the negativity! At the end of the day, a new life is about to be brought unto this world and whether that happened through a “man” or IMMACULATE CONCEPTION [Bible toters!] – It’s a beautiful thing!
I’m done with this post b/c it’s been going on too long but I’ll leave by saying this, on judgement day you can not cite ignorance b/c you have been told about God and his word.I just hope they everyone that can read my words accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and acknowleges that he died for our sins so that we may have life more abundantly.
pinkvirgo Says:
I’m done with this post
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AMEN!
Learn your bible and please stop listening to your auntie, she will lead you straight to the pits of hell.
I am so glad the boss left early today. I laughed that comment out very loud.
And ya’ll ALL going to hell for talking bad about OPRAH! LMBAO!
Signs that the world is coming to an end. Oprah has really shock me in these past couple weeks. God knew what he was doing and he makes no mistakes. People always feel that they are entitiled to change a law/rule when it doesn’t fit into what they want to do. Being gay is wrong, male or female. I feel that they should not be mistreated but stop trying to make the world adjust. For those who choose to be gay and claim that they were born that way (don’t believe) deal with the consequences, men can not have babies if you’re able to have one, that makes you a woman, GOD created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, a union is man and woman,deal with it. Next thing we know murders will be protesting to going to jail after they kill someone, some feel that they were born to be killers so why should they have to be punish. Get Real. When you make a choice you deal with the repercussions of that choice, good or bad. People need to stop going with the crowd and stand on what is true even when it’s not in season, the world would be a much better place, GOD please help us.
HUNE916 If you would have thouroughly read my posts you would know that at no point did I even refernce what these ppl are doing other than saying this isn’t news b/c women have babies everyday.You don’t know me and by you calling me a hypocrite you are being judgemental yourself at the end of the day I don’t care who don’t like my opinons b/c they are my opinons and I am entitled to them just like those women are entitled to have 20 kids if they want to. If your issue is with me saying homosexuality is a sin then so be it b/c it is.There are many homosexuals that will tell u that b/c I work w/one.I’m not going to sugarcoat the truth b/c it makes me unpopular.I’m not here to make friends.And as far as that sideways bible toters jab you better get yourself one,unless you wanna lift your eyes up in hell.
God is real, the Bible is real, Sin is real! No need to state other sins in the Book of Life when it is also preached by Jesus Chris to repent! Homosexuality is the ONLY sin listed in the Bible as and Abomination. That’s more than just a sin if you ask me. lol
Another thing, people are always screaming if it makes you happy, drug addicts take drugs because it makes them happy, does that make it right. Whether we like it or not everything that is done effects us all one way or another. So to say that it’s not you or your family doesn’t make it none of your business. Doing what makes you happy we all know is not always a good thing. I’m sure pedafiles are happy when they rape little children, and abusers are happy when they are beating the s%&@ out of there spouses, but as long as they are happy right????????????
Fuck Oprah
And another thing….lol The same ppl that are doubting God are the first ones when something happens saying lord help me or lord have mercy!
@too sexy, I think you are speaking with limited knowledge of LGBT issues and your only source is “the bible” which is definitely not a reliable one…lol! It’s not about justifying wrong, there is NOTHING wrong with being HOMOSEXUAL. You as a heterosexual woman did not choose to be that way, you were born that way, correct?! So, why should it be any different for homosexuals? Back in the day it was considered a mental disorder and now in 2008, we know that it has nothing to do with a mental imbalance. As far as people who being delivered from homosexuality, i disagree. How can someone be delivered from something that is natural to them? There have been many studies where people who were homosexual were sent to a “straight camp” where they would be counseled into being HETERO and every single person that attended “relapsed” and went back to what is natural to them. You also mentioned smoking being wrong, assuming that you mean marijuana where in the bible does it state that smoking is immoral?! NOWHERE! Before it was used as a recreational drug Monks use to smoke for spiritual reasons. Somehow you’ve let the media determine for you what’s right and wrong and have been brainwashed.
LIKE I PREVIOUSLY STATED, just because you’re transsexual/gender does NOT make you homosexual, a lot of transsexuals were intersexed. It seems that your reasoning for not agreeing with homosexuality is because you haven’t done any extensive research on it or other issues..I hope you educate yourself before you teach your children to be closeminded…
I am interested to know why exactly do you believe that the Bible is picking on Homosexuals?And toosexy you and I both know that if you are smoking with the intent to get high then it is not right.I am not being judgemental b/c I drink and I know that when I go to far I am not in a place that I should be eventhough they drank wine in the Bible.
The same way they have the right and I’m sure they will to teach their child their personal beliefs of what’s acceptable; is the same way we as individuals have the right to teach our children our beliefs of what’s acceptable and I’d teach mine that this is not. Would I love them any less if they choose to do the exact same thing? Absolutely not, would I change my mind about it being wrong in my eyes if they chose to do the exact same thing? Absolutely not. If it’s their business how they live their lives then it is YOUR business of how you and your household live yours and teaching your children this is right or wrong is up to you as an individual and it doesn’t make either household more accepting or narrowminded.
And if you read the bible in its entirety then you would know that Jesus was/is the end of the law(Jewish laws of the first testament). Please also read Matthew 19:9. Like I said before scripture interprets scripture. You can’t take just one scripture and not look at them all.
I find it funny that we throw around all this judgment when 70% of african-americans babies are born out of wedlock. At least you have two people who seem committed to raising this child. Which should be easier to explain: (1) how did my daddy give birth to me or (2) why do me and my sisters/brothers all have different baby daddies, none of whom are around? I think you can find a considerable amount of sin in both of those sitations.
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pinkvirgo Says:
I’m done with this post
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What Happened?????? {sniffs} Do I smell a little hypocrisy?
You addressed ME directly first. My 1st posting was a general one. You responded to ME so I’m responding to your comments to ME- no need for me to read all your postings. Believe me, I’ve heard enough!
pinkvirgo Says: “There are many homosexuals that will tell u that b/c I work w/one…”
Is that like when racist white people say they’re not racist because they have a Black friend?
pinkvirgo Says: “And as far as that sideways bible toters jab you better get yourself one, unless you wanna lift your eyes up in hell.”
I can only laugh at that, feel sorry & pray for you! Pray for anyone who believes that his or her thoughts and views are more righteous than the next person’s! We all have the right to believe in what we want; this goes for you, me AND the all mighty Oprah! I HAVE a bible, thank you very much! I READ my bible, again, thank you! But we were all given brains for a purpose; to USE them! I have a GOD GIVEN ability to decipher and CHOOSE what I want to believe in, whether it’s the Bible, the book of Mormon, the Koran or the back of a box of Cheerios!
We are ALL God-like, for we were made in His image, right? Therefore, our “sins” are of his image too. I choose to respect everyone’s lifestyle and try to live my own on the basic principle of ‘Do Good Onto to Others as You’d Have Them Done Onto You.’ I love and I love hard. And at the end of the day and my life, if that’s not good enough for you, for Jesus, for God (or Oprah), then that’s too damn bad!
Now, I’M DONE WITH THIS POST! And MY word is bond!
Nobody saying that they don’t believe in God because they don’t think he wrote it.It’s just that some parts of the bible are old and that some things aren’t applied or make sense now.Some of you can’t comprehend anything it’s just so typical for some to act like that.As long as God knows I lived my life the way I wanted to without committing the ULTIMATE SIN than I’m ok.I use MY BIBLE as a reference.I still praise the same God, nothing’s different.I have built MY close relationship with God and MY relationship with God has nothing to do with religion.My “religion” is not getting to heaven, my spirit is.And I’m done with this post too LOL, it’s not like anything is going to change at the end of the day…