Moms, please stop leaving your babies with these no good men!

Sandra Rose June 5, 2008

I don’t have the full story, but once I get all the details I will update. Once again an innocent baby has lost his life and a mother mourns the loss of her child – all because of a no good man she met in some bar.

The mother, Timika Martin told police she left her 4-year-old son in the care of her boyfriend while she ran errands. When she returned home, her baby was unresponsive. The boyfriend, Herbert Warren, said the baby fell off a chair. However, police say the injuries the child sustained were not consistent with a fall from a chair.

Warren was released on bail and then disappeared. But thankfully, detectives tracked him down at a friend’s home in Buckhead. Warren is now in jail with no bond.

Hopefully the “friend” was arrested too for harboring a fugitive.

It’s funny that my white nursing friends who are single mothers won’t allow their dates to meet their children much less babysit them!

african_dude

may that little boy`s soul rest in peace!
now back to normal…this is the case of another desperate i-want-a-boyfriend-sista who leaves her son with someone she just met at a bar, and i bet not long ago…..!i got to go this is too much for today
Anna

I am sorry for her loss. You can’t trust anyone with your kids anymore. As much of a hassle it is to drag the kid with you while running errands, you know they are safe.
avidreader

Sandra, its not just your white nurse friends either!
kaliente

OMG:( this saddens me like farreal farreal. SANDRA i agree with you on this one, When will we learn? We cannot trust our kids with anybody, i have read TOO MANY stories about ppl abusing kids. Women need to wake up and realize your kids come first!!! she barely even knew this man and i hate when dumb bytches say “oh he wouldn’t do that” yea bytch you don’t know! I’m mad now!

“It’s funny that my white nursing friends who are single mothers won’t allow their dates to meet their children much less babysit them!”

-now there are also a lot of black women who think the same, it’s just sad all around
MOCHAMOMMY

It’s funny that my white nursing friends who are single mothers won’t allow their dates to meet their children much less babysit them!

My heart goes out to the family but ur statement is not true. Amber Frey left Scott Peterson with her child and we know how that ended. Truth is, u cant trust any and everybody with ur child.
Kymystry

I feel for this woman .. I cannot IMAGINE the pain .. hurt .. and 2nd guessing she’s experiencing right now … Sista .. My heart goes out to you …

I’m Black … and My son is 15 … he’s Met ONE man beside his father in his ENTIRE LIFE … and I STILL won’t leave him alone with too many people … Lets not generalize here Sandra …
kaliente

and i know ppl handle shyt differently but OMG i wouldn’t even be able to interview!
Kymystry

Thank You Mochamommy … thank you VERY Much …
Andrea Yates WAS the Momma .. Her husband left HER alone with HER kids and she Drowned the ALL …
brwnsugga4you

MOCHAMOMMY Says:

It’s funny that my white nursing friends who are single mothers won’t allow their dates to meet their children much less babysit them!

My heart goes out to the family but ur statement is not true. Amber Frey left Scott Peterson with her child and we know how that ended. Truth is, u cant trust any and everybody with ur child.

~~~that statement is so..so true…he was a cute lil boy…my heart goes out to the mom~~~
shunda

It is not just your white nursing friends. I only leave my kids with my mother. You can’t trust everybody.
cutienjerzey

Sandra says:
It’s funny that my white nursing friends who are single mothers won’t allow their dates to meet their children much less babysit them!”

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Well let me tell you this, there are a lot of single black mothers with good heads on our shoulders who know better then to let any man around the kids…Let alone watch him while I run errands, PLEASE. That shit ain’t gonna happen.
I do know people who have all different men around their kids talking about that’s uncle so and so. Girl them kids know that ain’t their damn uncle. They ain’t never sent that dude a day in their life (mind you the twins are 10 years old). I just sit back and shake my head. I’m not god so, who am I to judge. I just know I wouldn’t do that shit! It makes me mad when I see this crap.
http://www.smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

“Running errands” – she was probably “running errands” at her 9 to 5 while he played Mr. Mommy Dearest. Negroes… and the women who love them…
http://www.weneedtostop.com 2Unruly

What a cute kid. When will this madness stop? rip little tyke.
cutienjerzey

The lil boy’s father probably wants to rip that chicks head off right about now. (That is if he was involved in his life). I can’t even fathom someone doing something to my kids like that
TIGHT29

When I was a little girl, I used to think that my mom was so overprotective. I wasn’t allowed to sit on any man’s lap with the exception of my father. My grandfather, uncles, or older male cousins never changed my diaper. My mother and father broke up when I was 10 and the next man that came to the house was introduced as her fiance. She made sure that it was a long engagement just in case he did not treat us right, because she would have let him go. He was never allowed to discipline after they got married. He had to tell on us in order for her to handle it. I used to think that my mother was too protective over us but I would like to take the opportunity to thank her because that could have been me!
http://www.myspace.com/msmeka2cute Mz_Magnificent1

Sandra you are wrong for that white friends comment…there are PLENTY of people from every ethnicity that wouldn’t let Ray-Ray watch their babies.

My prayers go out to the family…that chick has to live with that stupid mistake for the rest of her life.
ELove

Disgusting-n-Sad and SHE is just as much to blame as this CREEP-ASS-MURDERER…
How can a “so-called” Parent be so careless with the resposibility of Caring for the Welfare-n-Safety of Your OWN CHILD!!!
Vegas Dice

NO ONE meets my son.. NO ONE!

My son might think I’m a lesbo cuz he don’t see NOBODY! EVER.

Want to see me, see me when he’s gone or sleep.. That’s it!

I feel WORST for these women who leave their DAUGHTERS with they “man”… Helllll No!

Another thing.. If you have a man who don’t take care of his own kids, but he taking care of yours.. ADIOS!

I don’t want NO MAN taking care of me & my kid, when his own blood is not being cared for.
brwnsugga4you

just thinking about it…maybe she didn’t have anyone at the time to watch him but, the man she trusted. i mean really. maybe she has no family near
tkotuki

My child will not meet my boyfriend until my boyfriend has met my daughter’s dad which will be when I am ready to slip his ring on my finger.

I am well aware that I must be an example to my daughter by not “dating around.”
http://www.myspace.com/millyly milly

This is just sad. RIP
GAGIRL73

@ SANDRA THAT’S B.S. THAT YOU ARE SAYING…BEFORE I MARRIED MY SON’S FATHER WE WHERE NOT THE SAME PAGE SO WE PARTED FOR A WHILE, BUT WE GOT OUR ACT TOGETHER AND GOT MARRIED!
NO ONE BUT MY MAMA, MY AUNT OR HIS FATHER KEEP MY SON AS A MATTER OF FACT NO OTHER MAN EVER MET OUR SON!! I JUST DONT GET DOWN LIKE THAT @ ONE TIME IN MY LIFE I WAS A SINGLE PARENT AND ANOTHER FACT I’M BLACK , SO PLEASE BE CLEAR WHEN YOU JUDGE!!!!

MAY GOD BLESS THIS FAMILY FOR THIER LOSS!!!
NYCUTIE

Your children shouldn’t know who you are dating! The only time your child should be introduced to the man you are dating, is when that man says that he wants to be committed to you and you only! I am soo sorry for her loss but right about now, she wished she would have taken him with her.. People need to start realizing that the children they have are their responsibility.. Stop having or don’t have children if you know you are not ready for the responsibility. I am soooo PRO abortion!
Terry .W

Damn..how sad that she has to learn such a tough lesson…Losing a child is just the hardest thing anyone has to go through!…RIP
Negrito

This is sad. R.I.P…but that “white friends” stuff that you wrote was a low blow, please don’t try to make this horrible crime a “Black problem”.
brwnsugga4you

NYCUTIE Says:

~~~the mom stated on the news this morning that they were suppose to get married…~~~
NYCUTIE

Thx brwnsugga4you.. Didn’t know that but what an extreme!!
blu_mango

I just had a similar conversation with a friend about people introducing their boyfriends/girlfriends to their children WAY TOO soon! I feel for her though; because she thought she could trust him.
https://www.sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

brwnsugga4you Says:

just thinking about it…maybe she didn’t have anyone at the time to watch him but, the man she trusted. i mean really. maybe she has no family near

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Then the child goes with her!
Everyone here made great points – especially Vegas Dice. If a man abandons his own family why would you move him in with yours?
D.Ortiz

ATLANTA — The man accused of killing Jay Din Martin was back in court for a second time after fleeing two years ago. Thursday, a judge denied bond for Herbert Warren. Prosecutors asked a judge to deny bond based on the fact that after Martin was charged with murder in 2006, he posted bond and fled.

Herbert Warren is accused of killing 4-year-old Jay Din Martin nearly two and a half years ago. A judge gave Warren bond initially but police arrested him again on a different charge.

Timika Martin said she assembled a book of her son’s life – a life that ended in 2006. “Even the pregnancy test, I was so excited for having him. He was my baby, he was my life,” said Jay Din’s mother, Timika Martin.

In 2006, Martin left Jay Din with her then-boyfriend, Herbert Warren. “I trusted him, I thought I was going to marry him,” said Martin. “So he watched him for a couple of hours. I left Jay Din for two hours.”

Warren told Martin that Jay Din fell off a bar stool. But the medical examiner said that wasn’t possible. “He said the amount of trauma that Jay Din suffered was like a head-on car collision with two cars going at 60 miles an hour,” said Jay Din’s uncle, Joseph Martin.

Warren posted a $75,000 bond and then disappeared.

DeKalb County sheriff’s deputies recently arrested Warren in Buckhead.

The FBI helped the DeKalb County Sheriff’s Office arrest Warren. They tracked him online to a friend’s house in Buckhead.

Warren has been charged with malice murder, felony murder, cruelty to children and aggravated battery. He is being held in the DeKalb County Jail.
kwallace577

i feel you i feel you @gagirl73. i pure used to take my now 13 yo daughter to work with me back in the day before i left her with my man (he’s now my husband). not that there was anything wrong with my husband (or i wouldn’t have married him). it is just you don’t DO THAT. and he admits now years later that those actions hurt him but hey, back then i was a single parent in school working two jobs and i did not know where he and i were headed. i had to do what was best for her. she was 10 and we were engaged before i let them venture out together alone or left her with him.
brwnsugga4you

fathers, and mothers kill their children too…so are they really safe anywhere?? i’m just asking?
bklynsjm123

Wow this is so sad. I never let anybody foreign around my daughter either. I just thought I was setting an example by not having different ppl in and out but I never imagined that this could happen. Just awful.
Kymystry

We can’t expect a lesbian to think that ANY man’s is a good man… All men are suspect as Gay or “no good” ..

Timika and her Son Jay Din are the Victims .. HE committed the crime .. He ran … SHE lives with the pain every day …
https://www.sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ D. Ortiz, thanks for the article.

@ Kymystry: That was cold.
pointhimout

wow wow wow. awful story, man. damn
coco

i saw this in the local paper and i got sick same as i always do when i see these stories. i hate to sound like a broken record but i can NOT for the life of me understand why time and time again these women think it is okay to leave their children with these men. they dont know them from the next tom,dick,and harry. just because you met a guy at a club, he’s been nice to you,giving you the best sex of your life, does not qualify him as a babysitter for your children. he is not a stand in father. my daughter is almost five and ive never left her a day in her life with a man, not even her own father. i dont leave her in the room with a man when im in the house. this disgust me so much. yes the man is a criminal and yes i feel for this young mother but these women need to wise up.who was watching the kid before you met this fellow? just because he’s there doesnt mean he has to do it. but these women think they giving him a feeling of responsibility and makes him feel more important by playing daddy. get it together women, please, if not for yourself but for the little ones.
Prissydiva71

Sandra, you are wrong for that comment. My mother wasn’t a white nurse; she was a special education teacher and she ever allowed men to spend the night at our house, nor did she have different men around me. So hun, that statement is out of the window. Secondly, I am not a white nurse; I am a therapist and I would never allow anyone I am “casually dating” and don’t know anything about around my son. Some people simply do not think it can happen to them. Yes, it can be annoying sometimes in the store and your child is crying and carrying on. However, at the end of the day, if his father is working or family is not available, my son is with me.
http://myspace.com/westendfresh westendfresh

thats crazy. homie is gonna burn in hell for whatever he did to that child. coward.

the so called mother does not get a free pass either. that totally irresponsible. i have a young son and i wouldnt even consider leaving him around some off brand chick. hell, i dont even want to leave him with his grandmother.
teecee

not having a father really affects black chicks more than you think.

so in there desire to have a father for their kids, they will go out and rake the hood over until they find a piece a man as my g-ma use to say, and bring him home. only to find out that there was a reason why he was single and end up in a big old ghetto azz mess.
Anna

@ westendfresh,
I agree, the mother does not get a pass. It is our job to protect our children at all cost. She will have to live with her decision for the rest of her life. My motto has always been “If you can’t get a trust worthy sitter don’t go”. How many mothers go clubbing after putting the children to bed and come home and a fire swept through and killed her kids. You are always going to be a parent but they go up so fast. I paid my dues and spent more time with my kids than the average parent. My youngest child is 18, I am 40 and still have time to go clubbing if I choose. I don’t choose to. I would rather come home and sit at the table and chat with the kids about their day, goals and love interest. I can’t imagine losing a child, especially as a result of my own selfishness. This story only reminds me how very blessed I am. I was a young mother but even when my kids were young I had to work but I worked in day care centers. Take the kids to work for free and still be able to keep my eye on them.
AlwaysSweet

My son never met my fiance until we were almost two years into our relationship already. Whenever he came over it was always at night and my son would be spending the night with my mother or my sister. Since then, he has proven to be more of a father and a mentor to my son than his real biological father, and he doesn’t have any kids of his own.
srv

No Sandra, what you said was cold. I must admit that I shared some of the same naievete (?) that some woman experience when attempting to move on from one relationship to another. The positive female role models in my life brought me back to earth and made me realize that you can never leave a man alone with your daughter, or allow random people to dictate anything that has to do with your kids. It’s also hard to be a single mom with absolutely no free time. I know that’s not an excuse, but maybe she just wanted a few hours of peace. Who knows. All we know now is that this woman has experienced a devestating loss that will never repair itself. I know that her heart is irretrievably broken, and she will have to live with that for the rest of her life. She shouldn’t have to look at this blog and be reminded of the terrible mistake she mad. No one is perfect. Get off your high horses.
kdillon

Many women are that hard up for a man, she should be in jail too.
http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

It’s funny that my white nursing friends who are single mothers won’t allow their dates to meet their children much less babysit them!
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Does that mean that all your black single nursing friends have their kids all up with them on dates and what not? The jab at black single mothers was not necessary. This type of thing happens to people of all races. Not only that, but while I don’t know the actual statistics, I’d be willing to bet that biological parents kill their children far more often than boyfriends/girlfriends killing their mate’s children.
bloggergirlz

i don’t have kids, however it saddens my heart to hear stories like this…

@vegas dice…i agree w/ u 100%…i never understand why woman date men who don’t take care of their own damn kids…i will NOT make this exception…i don’t play that “my baby momma is tripping”…take that b i t c h to court (make me know it)! niccas buy cars and rims and $hit but don’t fight to see their seeds…i stopped dating guys w/ kids altogther though…i don’t knock anyone for doing but it wasn’t my cup of tea…

…Another thing.. If you have a man who don’t take care of his own kids, but he taking care of yours.. ADIOS
bloggergirlz

sandra, this type of $hit happens in trailor parks to! you str8 blew me w/ that “my white nursing friends” comment…i know you’re entitled to your comment and this is your blog, but damn cool out…
Yazzmin

WOW, this happened to a neighbor. My man met this dude & thought he was cool (I did to). Until he killed his girlfriends baby. We were actually in denial thinking it couldn’t be him because that’s how cool this dude came off.

She had been with him since her pregnancy. One day she needed him to watch the baby plus her two young sons. Her mother always kept the baby but couldn’t that day. When she came home she noticed her baby wasn’t responsive. The guy fled & led my dude to believe it was due some probation issue. The girlfriend also agreed that he should leave when the police arrived due to the probation. Thinking her baby would be ok, plus thinking he wasn’t at fault.

When I came home he left her truck in our garage. When she came to the house she informed us that the police told her the baby was killed by shaking it and a serious injury to the head. Her son later said he seen the dude sock the poor baby in the head. Drugs played a role in it which she had no clue he was doing (neither did we). And she informed us that when he dropped her off for work that morning she wasn’t sure if her baby was alive then when she started thinking back.

She said he insisted that she let the baby sleep & he would change the baby’s diaper so that she didn’t have to worry about it. Come to find out, he abused his own disabled son in another state that’s why he ended up in Cali.

We were so upset over this. We couldn’t close to feeling her pain but we felt just as betrayed. So at what point can you fully trust someone, especially if you’ve been with them for a while???
http://TheBeatniksCelebrityGossip.com Seattle Slim

I’m just saying it’s not just black women, although I have seen a disproportionate number of black kids dying as a result of the mother being a complete jackass and leaving her kids alone with some man.

First of all, where the hell are the bio fathers of these kids so that this shit wouldn’t happen???

Secondly, what kind of f*ckhed attacks a child???

Thirdly, these women out here these days are a bunch of idiots and lowlifes. You don’t leave your child alone with your boyfriend you just met or until you have seen, guided, mentored and checked that man to your parenting standards. I just now started leaving my 5 year old with my fiancee and that’s after TWO years and he’s been around my son for a year and half every day. He knows what’s up and he knows not to cross any limit with my child. I would’ve never EVEN imagined. Chances are that the guy was a d*ck to the poor little angel while she was present but to keep a man she let it slide. Put her up on charges too!

When will women go back to being self-respecting and independent like we USED to be???
http://TheBeatniksCelebrityGossip.com Seattle Slim

Correction not ALL women I meant to put some.
http://notenoughrealmen.blogspot.com 2thick4u

I wasn’t able to comment earlier due to me being on another computer abd forgot log in info!!!

This story is very sad and disturbing.

It transcend all color lines. Please stop leaving your children with anyone!!!

Also, Sandra I resent the fact that you included race with your posting…please stop being an asshole during this trying situation!!!
http://notenoughrealmen.blogspot.com 2thick4u

*and
intensemocha

CONSENSUS IS WOMEN SHOULDN’T TRUST ANY MAN MORESO ANY BLACK MAN & IF YOU ARE A SINGLE MOTHER DON’T DATE AT ALL, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO WATCH YOUR CHILD FOREVER (THEN YOU REALLY ARE A BAD MOM-CAUSE YOU DON’T SPEND ANY TIME WITH YOUR CHILD) NOT SURE BUT I’M ALMOST CERTAIN IN ORDER TO FALL IN LOVE YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE PERSON AND CONSTANTLY BLACK WOMEN ARE BARRAGED WITH MIXED MESSAGES EVERYDAY-DON’T TRUST ANYBODY, ALL BLACK MEN ARE NO GOOD & CAN’T BE TRUSTED, YOU SHOULDN’T DATE OR HAVE A PERSONAL LIFE IF YOU ARE A MOTHER……SO ON & SO FORTH

WE STAY AND RAISE THE CHILDREN, WORK & TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND THIS WOMAN’S ONLY CRIME WAS TRUSTING & LOVING A MAN-I’M CERTAIN NONE OF US HAVE EVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT

PEOPLE ALWAYS IN HINDSIGHT TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD NEVER DO OR HAVE NEVER DONE-JUST LIKE THIS MAN KILLED THAT BABY A DAYCARE PROVIDER COULD HAVE DONE THE SAME-NO MATTER WHAT HEINOUS CRIMES ARE COMMITTED AGAINST US OR HOW MANY MEN ABANDON THEIR CHILDREN IT IS AND ALWAYS BE THE WOMAN’S FAULT

STOP MAKING OVERGENERALIZATIONS-THIS IS A TRAGIC SITUATION, SHE MADE IN ERROR IN JUDGEMENT AND UNFORTUNATELY HER CHILD WAS KILLED-BUT I’M CERTAIN IF SHE THOUGHT SHE COULDN’T TRUST HIM SHE WOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT HER CHILD

PEOPLE GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES AND SOAP BOXES-AND STOP POINTING THE FINGER-AND ALLOW THIS WOMAN TO GRIEVE AND MOURN THE LOSS OF HER SON-AND JUST BE GRATEFUL THAT THIS MURDERER IS BEHIND BARS

I’VE NEVER LEFT MY DAUGHTER WITH SOMEONE I DATED EITHER, BUT WHO WANTS TO HEAR THAT SH#T AFTER THE FACT……..
Brookiebaby0506

Too bad the most “shocking” part of the this is that Sandra made a generalization about white single nurses vs single black mothers!!!
I’ve been on this site for a long time now and have seen several comments that put white people in a bad light. Most of the response on this site – anywhere from laughter to agreement.

How things change when the shoe is on the other foot……

If you can’t trust the person you are with, that you are allowing in your home with you and your child ——then why the hell are you with them???????????????????? I agree not letting someone you just met be left alone with your children, but someone that you are dating or engaged to —–YEARS LATER—– and you still can’t trust them with your child???? Give me a damn break – maybe you need to check who you are dating.

How did you ever put your child in daycare? Did you hang out with your daycare worker for months/years before you left your child in their care?

How many people that knew or were related to SERIAL KILLERS said they never thought that person would be capable of commiting murder after murder after murder?
Sometimes no matter how well you know or think you know a person they could do something that would just shock the sh*t out of you.

I am a white, single mother dating a black man that takes care of his kids, and is a father figure to my son. After about 6 months I knew this was a good man and I could trust him to watch my son while I ran to the store. If he wasn’t good enough to be trusted with my son then why would I trust him with ME?? Almost 2 years later and I trust this man with my life and my son’s life. If after 6 months of knowing this person I didn’t feel that way, I WOULD NOT BE WITH HIM.

I am NOT making an excuse for the man in this article.
I AM commenting on the ridiculous comments left here. And that’s my opinion.
GAGIRL73

@ Brookiebaby0506, everyone has a right to thier own opinion. You yourself just did the same thing.
As everyone who made a statement about this heatbreaking matter. REAL or RIDICULOUS it’s called freedom of speech! REAL TALK!
Brookiebaby0506

@ GAGIRL73 – then we are on the same page then. That’s why I ended my comment with “That’s My Opinion”. I didn’t say nor mean to imply that anyone shouldn’t make comments. My comment just centered around the comments of others.

Moms, please stop leaving your babies with these no good men!

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