One thing I've learned from experience as a nurse and working with drug addicts is they are extremely unpredictable and untrustworthy. These people are major manipulators and tend to fabricate lies for attention. You can't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

Which is why I ignore celebs (Whitney) who claim to have kicked their drug habits. Once a druggie, always a druggie.

When I heard about the Mackenzie Phillips rape/incest interview with Oprah (who believes every crazy thing these celebs tell her), I knew Mackenzie was making the whole thing up.

According to her stepmother, Michelle Williams, who was married to Mackenzie's dad -- the one Mac claims raped her when she was 19 -- Mackenzie has a history of lying and manipulative behavior to get what she wants (drugs). I also wondered if there was a book deal or movie deal in the works. Sure enough, Mackenzie has a book coming out just in time to keep fueling her drug habit.

Showbiz411's Roger Friedman also suspected Mackenzie was lying and reached out to Michelle Phillips who confirmed Mackenzie is lying to sell copies of her book.

“She told me, then she called me back and said, ‘You know I’m joking.' I said it wasn’t funny. Mackenzie said, ‘I guess we have different senses of humor.’ John was a bad parent, and a drug addict. But fucking his daughter? If she thinks it’s true, why isn’t she with a good psychiatrist on a couch? I think it’s unconscionable that Oprah would let her do her show. I have every reason to believe it’s untrue. Oprah should be more judicious about who she has on her show."

"Mackenzie has a lot of mental illness. She’s had a needle stuck up her arm for 35 years. She was arrested for heroin and coke just recently. She did ‘Celebrity Rehab’ and now she writes a book. The whole thing is timed.”

The whole thing is also ridiculous. After the entire pregnant male fiasco, I don't know why people continue to waste their time watching Oprah's show.

  • KaraZ

    Why is this about Oprah, when it's MacKenzie making up the story... funny enough I read that her sister Chynna believes her. Sooo is the stepmother in denial maybe?

  • Daisy

    I don't know if she is lying or not but please STOP acting like fathers don't molest and rape their daughters everyday even w/o drugs being involved. Sad but true.

  • http://twitter.com/LaydeeJustice LadyJustice

    i heard this on the radio this morning, but i have no idea who this chick is

  • masonmom

    i actually seen her story on oprah yesterday. she admitted that after awhile the incest became consentual...disgusting!! she didnt mind havin mick jagger on her list. dirty azz chez whitey! too much free love back in those days!

  • keely107

    Once a druggie, always a druggie
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    I beg to differ.

  • OES_Diva

    Sanda...ppl do change their lives around...so please Whitney out of this!

  • PAHairston

    Hello All. This story could very well be true. Only God, Mackenzie and the dead father knows the real truth. There is a story of incest in the Bible, when Lot took his daughters up into the mountain and they got him drunk and laid with him and got pregnant by him. Funny thing, I have NEVER heard this story preached from the pulpit, NEVER.

  • SunnyPA

    The sister, Chynna Phillips, believes it. She said MacKenzie told her 12 years ago about it.

  • Anna

    LadyJustice Says:

    i heard this on the radio this morning, but i have no idea who this chick is
    ~~
    She played on a show called "One Day At A Time".

  • keely107

    PA HAirston:

    Missed THAT, WOW , will have to re-read tonight! I wouldnt doubt it though. Thats my favorite story, Sodom and Gamorrah, cant believe I didnt pick up on that!

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    I don't know if she is lying or not, but that was just too much information. For real.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Daisy Says:
    I don’t know if she is lying or not but please STOP acting like fathers don’t molest and rape their daughters everyday

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    Not when they're 19-years-old. I refuse to believe a 19-year-old woman would sleep with her biological father the day before her wedding. Mackenzie has a history of lying. And John Phillips is dead so he can't dispute her.

  • VAALLDAY

    I don't know if she's lying, but people do go into denial about stuff like this. Maybe her stepmother doesn't want to believe that she was married to a sick psycho.

  • PAHairston

    "One day the older daughter said to her sister, "There isn't a man anywhere in this entire area for us to marry. And our father will soon be too old to have children. Come, let’s get him drunk with wine, and then we will sleep with him. That way we will preserve our family line through our father." So that night they got him drunk, and the older daughter went in and slept with her father. He was unaware of her lying down or getting up again.

    "The next morning the older daughter said to her younger sister, "I slept with our father last night. Let’s get him drunk with wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him. That way our family line will be preserved." So that night they got him drunk again, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. As before, he was unaware of her lying down or getting up again. So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father." (Genesis 19:23-25, 30-36 , NLT)

  • Anna

    I don't know why anyone would make something like this up. For some reason I thought I heard the story before and it just got shuffled under the rug. The problem I have is that the first time he had sex with her was on her wedding night when she was 19 and the consenual affair lasted for 10 yrs.

  • aqtpie

    The whole story is sick and sad but I believe her!!!!

  • SunnyPA

    12Sandra Rose Says:
    Not when they’re 19-years-old. I refuse to believe a 19-year-old woman would sleep with her biological father the day before her wedding. Mackenzie has a history of lying. And John Phillips is dead so he can’t dispute her.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    John Phillips was a hippie, drug addict and MacKenzie Phillips is as loony as a tune ..... anything was possible.

  • intensemocha

    I HIGHLY DOUBT SOMEONE WOULD PUT THEMSELVES THROUGH THE EMBARASSMENT OR STIGMA ATTACHED TO INCEST ALL FOR A LIE

    WHITE PEOPLE WILL GO THROUGH EXTREMES TO PRETEND TO BE "NORMAL" AND ACT SO "PERFECT" BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS JUST BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR SPEAK BOUT THE "TRUTH" DOESN'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENED

    TRUTH BE TOLD THAT'S PROBABLY WHY SHE WAS IN SUCH HORRIBLE SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH ALOT OF DRUG ADDICTS SUFFER SOME SORT OF ABUSE A CHILD-SHE DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY ALL BY HERSELF WHY DOESN'T HER MOTHER TAKE SOME CREDIT FOR THAT WHILE SHE'S TRYING TO SAVE FACE

  • SunnyPA

    Also, there were a lot of raunchy stories about John Phillips that he admitted to when he was alive.

  • keely107

    @PAHairston:

    My mouf is open, and yes I TOTALLY missed that! And thanks, you know I just couldnt WAIT till I got home. LOL.

  • Daisy

    Sandra nice try but I wasnt refering to this story as I already noted I didnt know if she was lying or not that is not my call to make. I stand by what I said :coffee:

    I record Oprah daily I will watch this ep this evening.

    @Sunny I agree with you

  • intensemocha

    WHO IN THE HELL WOULD "WANT" TO LIE ABOUT FUGGIN THEIR DADDY

    SERIOUSLY-HOW EMBARASSING AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE POSTS HERE HOW PEOPLE WOULD REACT TO YOU BECAUSE OF THIS

    I JUST DON'T SEE ANYONE DOING THIS FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN IT BEING TRUE

    NOBODY WANTS THIS TYPE OF NEGATIVE ATTENTION-THE SAME ATTITUDE DISPLAYED BY POSTERS HERE ARE THE SAME ATTITUDES THAT WOMEN WHO REFUSE THEIR CHILD IS BEING MOLESTED/ABUSED BY THEIR HUSBAND AND BOYFRIENDS HENCE THE VICIOUS CYCLE AND DISBELIEF BY SO MANY PEOPLE

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    How the hell you going to sleep with your father for 10 years?? This story sounds fishy to me - no pun intended. SMDH. This reversed Oedipus ish is crazy.

  • intensemocha

    I GUESS IN THE BIBLICAL STORY ABOVE HE WAS UNAWARE THAT HIS D$CK GOT HARD AND HE EJACULATED TOO

    WOW-THAT'S PROOF RIGHT THERE

  • intensemocha

    SO IF SHE STATED SHE WILLINGLY SLEPT WITH HER FATHER RATHER THAN CLAIM VICTIM-WOULD YOU VIEW HER FATHER DIFFERENTLY

    AS ALWAYS WE WOMEN "WITCH HUNTERS" WILL ALWAYS TEAR A WOMAN APART IN REGARDS TO THE TRUTH-BUT THE MAN ALWAYS GETS A GO FREE PASS

    HE FUGGED HIS DAUGHTER-WILLINGLY OR VICTIM THAT IN ITSELF IS DEPLORABLE

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    One thing about drug addicts with a history of chronic long term drug abuse is they spend most of their adult lives totally coked out. When they wake up from their drug binges, they don't remember anything. So they fabricate stories to fill in the blank spaces in their memories. That's why they become experts at lying and manipulative behavior.

  • keely107

    @Intense:

    I was thinking the same thing!

  • iscream

    sandra said:
    Not when they’re 19-years-old. I refuse to believe a 19-year-old woman would sleep with her biological father the day before her wedding. Mackenzie has a history of lying. And John Phillips is dead so he can’t dispute her.
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    I missed the episode. Was that the first time she slept with him? If not then I could see her being brain washed to the point of doing something like that.

    And MJ is dead but that doesn't stop you from referring to his children as "the children he raised as his own" :coffee:

  • bk2atl

    I feel that whether the sex was consenusal or not (assuming she's telling the truth) she's still a victim of, at the very least, mental illness. Maybe in some twisted way, she began to equate sex with her father as LOVE FROM HER FATHER. For many women, their first "intimate" experience with a man, is sex, not being kissed and hugged by daddy as little girls. These women have probably never had intimacy in any form other than sex, and learn to equate sex with love. Of course, this is all my unprofessional opinion.

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    @intensemocha, "willing grown azz daughter and father" sex is more deplorable in my book.

    Sidebar: I won't be going to see Monique's new movie when it is released. Some s*** I just don't need to know about.

  • iscream

    Sandra if she was a drug addick why does this sound so hard to believe. She wasn't in her right mind. Maybe the abuse is what led her to use drugs :shrug:

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    @Iscream, she claims she had sex with his azz for 10 years. SMDH

  • kwall

    i am believing this. for one chynna, the sister believed her.

    for two YES john phillips was fully of whacky stories some of which he confirmed while he was still living.

    she said she stopped the whole thing ONLY b/c she got preggers and was not sure if she was gonna birth a son/nephew or daughter/niece. gross? yes. but like daisy said it happens even when folks are NOT under the influence.

  • keely107

    @Kwall:

    Sad part is, it happens often, and folks just dont talk about it!

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    Wait a minute.... the man is dead??? Oh hell nawl, he ain't here to defend himself. SMDH

  • Daisy

    Yes she admitted she had an affair with her father for 10 yrs but he was shooting her up she was drugged out and so was he and the story is sad all the way around. She also said she had an abortion cause she wasnt sure if the baby was her fathers or hubby.

    I read the book PUSH and will be front and center when Precious comes out!

  • pinky2083

    LOVE OPRAH!

  • intensemocha

    A FATHER IS TO PROTECT HIS DAUGHER FROM ALL DANGERS IN THIS WORLD WHAT FATHER IN HIS RIGHT MIND COULD OBTAIN AN ERECTION FOR HIS OWN FLESH AND BLOOD

    EVEN IF IN HER SICK MIND SHE WANTED AS A FATHER HER SENIOR HE SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO GET HER HELP AND REFUSE HER

    AGAIN FOR SOME REASON IN YOUR MIND-THE DAUGHTER SHOULD SHARE THE BLAME/THE VICTIM/ETC. WOMEN LIKE YOU ARE HILARIOUS FOR WHATEVER REASONS IN YOUR MIND YOU WANT TO NOT BE ABLE IDENTIFY WITH THIS WOMAN AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HER AND HOLDING HER AT FAULT FOR WHAT HAPPENED IS YOUR WAY OF SAYING IT COULD NEVER BE ME-AND IF IT HAPPENED TO HER IT HAD TO BE BECAUSE OF HER OWN DOING

    LOL-CLASSIC

  • dallas214

    Wow Sandra, I am truly at a loss for words. Im am angry and saddened by your insensitivity and ignorance.

    Let me just say this, my MOTHER was addicted to drugs for over 20 years! I watched her struggle with her addiction and inflict pain on me, herself, and my family. It wasnt untill 2001 she decided to go to rehab and get treatment. She has been CLEAN ever since. So youre WRONG Sandra.

    Not everyone stays on drugs forever. How do you know if Whintey Houston is still on drugs? What gives you the divine authority to make a bold statement, once a drugie, always a drugie? Oh just cuz u a RN? ooooohhhh ookkkk...whatever.

    You know I come to this blog becuz its unlike others. Yes we get out flood of Rhianna bs, but for the most part u shed light on several issuses going on...not to mention ur opinion at times can be blunt and comical. Kinda reminds me of Howard Stern...however this time, I feel like u have taken it too far. Its so easy for u to sit behind a computer and throw stones at people and thats just not cool. Nothing about that is cute nor becoming of a woman. I said all that to say, that was disrespectful on so many levels and u really need to watch what you say.

  • Daisy

    SHOTS FIRED :eek:

  • iscream

    I said all that to say, that was disrespectful on so many levels and u really need to watch what you say.
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    :rofl: where is mizz dallas.

    you need to watch what you say baby girl. That's all I'm saying is whatch what the fvck you say - Whitney Houston to Wendy Williams in their phone interview. CLASSIC!

  • aqtpie

    Addicts CAN become clean.
    ___________________
    This does happen, remember Marcus Wesson? The black man that killed 9 of his children, the two eldest (25 & 17) were by his wife/step-daughter and the other 7 were by his own daughters and nieces.

  • Daisy

    @Isc I remember that interview and another site just re posted it last week and I laughed all over again :rofl:

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ dallas214:

    Kudos to your mom if she really is clean. But my experience with drug addicts is they simply substitute one addiction for another.

  • The Divine Ms. K

    I'm with dallas214 - my mother was also on drugs for about 2 years - and we are not talking about weed.

    She has been clean and sober for almost 20 years and has not replaced one bad vice for another. So, Sandra, I know you have experience as a nurse, but I have experience as a child of a former addict - once they get the mindset to change and be healthy and with support - they do so. My mother is a trainer with a major corporation and is also a real estate agent. So, there is life after drugs.

  • KaraZ

    @Sandra Rose, I think when addicts deal with what led them to drug abuse in the first place and own up to their own bad behavior and makes themselves accountable to others then they can actually rid themselves of the disease. I'm with you, I don't believe Whitney's 100% clean, because in public she still blames Bobby and lies about her drug abuse; but other addicts to get & stay clean.

  • The Divine Ms. K

    @ KaraZ - you are right. For an addict to truly be clean, they need to confront the issues that triggered their addiction and not blame others. As a matter of fact, part of their recovery is to apologize to those they have wronged and make amends. My mother had to apologize for stealing from us and not being around as a part of her treatment.

  • starr

    The affair started wen she was nineteen. She said she woke to her father having sex with her. And she drifted back into a fog....or something like that.....

    I don't know whether or not she's lying. Ultimately...thats between her and god. considering that she and her pops were strung out on drugs.....anything is possible

    And i don't believe for a min that this doesn't happen everyday......people just dont' wanna talk a bout it...

  • LovelyLady

    Once a druggie, always a druggie
    ----------

    That is NOT true.

  • LovelyLady

    @ PAhairston,

    I remember that story from the bible.

  • KaraZ

    @Divine Ms. K

    My college boyfriend was a big time coke head (naive me thought he had a bad sinus problem for over a year) and came to me years later to apologize. It was his 4th (and last) stint in rehab in a 3 yr time frame; that was 5 years ago & he's been clean & sober, got his life completely on track, got married is finally raising his children. I'm happy he finally beat his demons & I believe he beat them for good.

  • LovelyLady

    @ Daisy

    I read the book PUSH and will be front and center when Precious comes out
    --------------

    I REALLY Loved that book, Precious had me crying through out the whole book. I didnt even want it to end.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ The Divine Ms. K:

    My experience is with drug addicts who had to be hospitalized due to their mental and physical deterioration on drugs. Whitney had to be hospitalized, Mackenzie had to be hospitalized. There's a difference between a user who does drugs for 20 years and a user who does drugs for 24 hours a day. I have had to inject drug addicts with medication that put them on the floor in less than 30 seconds. So your experience with drug addicts is going to be different from mine.

  • dallas214

    @ Sandra....thanks for the kudos. Not sure if it was sarcastic or not, but I digress. Im glad u clarified that with YOUR past experiences, they substitute one addiction for another. Maybe thats how u shouldve phrased it in the begining becuz I was deeply offended.

    And to everyone who keeps saying Whitney is lying or still on drugs....ARE U SERIOUS? Did you light one up with her last night? Have u even witnessed her smoking dope? I didnt think so. Quit being soo damn judgemental of others. WHat more do you want her to say?? She admitted being on drugs. Furthermore, she even said dont nobody make her do nothing she wants to do. If that aint f*%kn ownership, I dont know what is. Some of yall have selective hearing...FYI, she dont owe shhh to none of yall. Hell, she didnt even have to say what she said on Oprah. OMG, when did black people (of ALLLL races) become so judegemental and critical of each other.

    As far as Bobby, she spoke on her marriage like the hot mess it was. Plain and simple. Had she said Bobby was the token husband, yall wouldve found fault with that and said she still in love or denial.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    I have found that drug addicts break their addiction when they run out of money or friends to steal from.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    dallas214 Says:
    @ Sandra….thanks for the kudos. Not sure if it was sarcastic or not

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    I wasn't being sarcastic.

  • dallas214

    @Daisy...

    whats up girl? I wanna read PUSH soo bad. I heard it was really good..where u get ur copy at?

  • dallas214

    @Sandra....

    Cool...I guess we still homies (giving u the side eye.....)

  • Daisy

    @Dallas I think I got Push from wal mart or target. Very easy read but she writes as somebody who cant read or write so u have to figure out what she is trying to say at times. I usually get all my books at a black owned bookstore here in the A though.

  • The Divine Ms. K

    @ Sandra - ok. I see what you are saying. But, I just don't agree with once a druggie, always a druggie. My mother is proves that, in my eyes.

  • Anna

    Sandra Rose Says:

    I have found that drug addicts break their addiction when they run out of money or friends to steal from
    ~~~~~~~
    I thought they just get tired of constantly having to chase after the craving.

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    Damn, there is so much I want to say about dealing with a loved one on drugs but I can't because that means I would have to throw them under the bus. I will pass for now.

    In my book, drug addicts are extremely selfish and self-centered people. I applaud anyone that can give up drugs.

  • http://XSCAPESIGHTINGS.COM crystal

    McKenzi dad met his wife wife Michelle Phillips pictured with McKenzi (Mama and the Papas group member and Knots Landing co-star) @ the age of 16/17. I also read McKenzi was doing drugs at the age of 12. Can we get a Mama and the pappas video. California Dreaming please.

  • Daisy

    Mackenzie and her sister Chyna(I dont use the word half) will be on Oprah for Part II FYI just read that bit of news.

  • iscream

    I hate when they make movies about a book I read so long ago I can hardly remember it. I do remember some of it. Like Daisy said it was written like she couldn't read or write and I remember the mother did some FOUL shyt to her that I won't mention. What ever happened to The coldest winter movie? I thought Cash Money brought the rights. I remember them saying Jada was going to play Winter... don't know why because she is not how I pictured winter. Mia Campbell (if she was sane) has the look of how they said winter looked.

  • http://myspace.com/tamarlese Peachizz

    Why lie now? No one cares.....

  • Daisy

    @Ice wasnt Winter light skinned? Mia is so not lol I always pic Jeffery Wright playing Santigo (the daddy)

    I dont recall cash money buying the movie rights and Jada is supposed to be producing or directing the movie not playing in it from what I always read.

  • flyqtnva

    i have never met a person that has lied about BEING MOLESTED! ever think thats y she ended up drugged out????

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    The mind is a tricky thing. It can warp and make the weird seem like normal. Unless your taught you how to shoot up heroin when you were a pre-teen… unless you’ve lived in a household with no rules, where drugs were encouraged and smoked out in the open…unless you’ve spent your whole life f u u u ked up... you really don't know what you'd do in her shoes.

    I think she's telling the truth.

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    your "dad" taught

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    flyqtnva Says:
    i have never met a person that has lied about BEING MOLESTED!

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    Celebrities lie all the time. It's called a publicity stunt to sell books, dear.

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    @Sandra, I concur with you. Everytime you turn around some celeb was molested when they were a child. SMDH

    Sidebar: Can you molest an adult?? Is it still molestration if the "victim" is an adult and consents to the act? It seems that the proper term in this case would be incest, not molestation.

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    Sidebar: Does anyone remember that Michael Jordan's older sister writing a book in which she stated that she was molested by her father??