CNN: Is it the return of Lauryn Hill?
Hill, 35, is scheduled to perform in a few shows as part of the lineup of the Rock the Bells tour. In the past few days, a previously unheard track titled “Repercussions” which is purported to be of her singing has hit the Web. The notoriously private singer also recently gave an interview to National Public Radio, sounding very much like a star on the comeback trail.
“I’m starting to get excited again,” Hill told NPR. “Believe it or not, I think what people are attracted to about me, if anything, is my passion. People got exposed to my passion through music and song first.”
Not everyone is convinced.
“I’m not sure if there is a comeback,” said Gail Mitchell, senior editor covering R&B and hip-hop at Billboard magazine. “Maybe that interview with NPR was to prime people, but until there is an announcement or new music, I don’t think we can say that anything is set.”
“Is she coming back or is she just doing what she has always done?” said Sandra Rose, who runs the popular gossip site SandraRose.com. “She performs, makes some money and then she disappears again.”
It’s not quite the career the world expected of Hill after her hit album, “The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill,” was released in 1998 and went on to garner the singer 10 Grammy nominations (the most of any female performer at the time) and five awards.
It seemed as though the singer — who had initially found fame as a member of the rap group the Fugees and as an actress who co-starred in 1993′s “Sister Act 2″ — could do no wrong as the reigning princess of neo-soul.
“She just had a deep soul that reminded so many of what was truly real and important,” said Karu F. Daniels, executive entertainment producer at AOL Black Voices. “She wasn’t talking about the bubble-gum stuff. And what she was doing was far from gimmicky.
“What she spoke about — and how she emoted it through song — is what was most appealing,” Daniels added. “Listening to her music today — 11 years later — still sounds like it’s new.”
But soon there were rumblings of eccentricities. During a Grammy acceptance speech, she took to the podium clutching a bible from which she read Psalm 40.
There was a lawsuit brought by a group of musicians who said they didn’t receive proper credit for their work on “The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill.” Essence magazine reported that in 1998 a quartet of music industry pros, Johari Newton, Rasheem Pugh, Vada No-bles and Tejumold Newton, sued Hill for songwriting and production credit on “Miseducation” and that the lawsuit was later settled out of court.
There was also much speculation as to whether she was legally married to Rohan Marley, son of music legend Bob Marley, and father of her five children. He spoke with People magazine two years ago, saying of Hill’s life away from the industry: “She loves [suburban life], being with her children, seeing them grow and instilling our teachings of righteousness to them.”
There also was talk about what some saw as her mystical side. In 2003, Rolling Stone published an article that included details of an alleged friendship with “Brother Anthony, a shadowy spiritual adviser” she reportedly became close with in 2000.
It was also in 2003 that Entertainment Weekly reported that during a Christmas concert performance at the Vatican, Hill launched into a tirade against the Catholic Church, saying ”God has been a witness to the corruption of his leadership, to the exploitation and abuses. It is the least one can say about the clergy,” according to Rome newspaper La Repubblica.
She recorded an MTV “Unplugged” album that was as much a confessional session as it was a musical performance. “I had created this public persona, this public illusion, and it held me hostage,” Hill said during one of many interludes in which she talked to the audience. “I couldn’t be a real person, because you’re too afraid of what your public will say.”
Hill, a New Jersey native who as a youngster performed the Smokey Robinson hit “Who’s Loving You” at the famed Apollo Theater’s Amateur Night, always seemed more at home on stage than off. “I was just a little girl, skinny legs, a press and curl, my mother always thought I’d be a star,” she sang on the autobiographical single “Every Ghetto, Every City.”
Blogger Rose said she met Hill at an early listening party for the Fugees and the performer seemed ill at ease in the spotlight even then, uncomfortable making eye contact and softspoken.
“I believe she just couldn’t handle the fame,” Rose said. “You have that a lot with many of the musical geniuses, including Michael Jackson. I think she just lost it.”
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¿¿¿¿Why are we still talking about a singer with ONE solo album over ten years ago????
Lauryn, thank you for your album last decade, it was good. Have a good life.
If she comes back great, if she doesn’t, that’s cool too. I’m over it.
I do hope she comes back with an album, BUT I won’t hold my breath. People will expecct another musical masterpiece so the pressure is on.
Lauren has raw talent that I can and always will appreciate.
I hope she is coming back, it’ll be nice to have music with actually substance for a change. I’ll just keep my fingers crossed and wait.
Sandy you did not have to post that tearful, overly rouged pic up. Messy
oooooooohhhh Look at Sandra getting her shine on, go ‘head then ma! I ain’t even mad!
Lauryn doesn’t really want to do this music thing any more. Imagine how difficult it is to walk away when the whole world is telling you to go back. Other people shouldn’t define your destiny for you.
If LH never wants to record again, everybody’s world will still go on. She just has to realize that she can’t go back to the record company for money after that. From what I hear she had those folks dangling on a string salivating over the promise of a new CD for years. Like Maxwell, eventually the requests start getting denied and the artists find their way back to the studio.
¿¿¿¿Why are we still talking about a singer with ONE solo album over ten years ago????
Because that ONE album shyts on most any female artist’s 10 albums since then….
Come on back L-Boogie!
There was also much speculation as to whether she was legally married to Rohan
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She cannot ever be legally married to him until he divorces the first wife and also the mother of two of his kids (the dude has a tribe) that he married when he was playing football for Miami. So if and when he divorces her…he can finally marry Miss Hill the mother of his other five kids.
But until then they will remain “married in their hearts” like Brandy and the fat guy.
¿¿¿¿Why are we still talking about a singer with ONE solo album over ten years ago????
Because that ONE album shyts on most any female artist’s 10 albums since then….
Come on back L-Boogie!
Whenever she is ready is when she will make a comeback…other than that I’m good
renegadesince1985 says:
¿¿¿¿Why are we still talking about a singer with ONE solo album over ten years ago????
Because that ONE album shyts on most any female artist’s 10 albums since then….
Come on back L-Boogie!
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IF SHE DOES THEN I HOPE SHE COMES BACK AS THE PRETTY LAURYN HILL NOT AS THE CIRCUS CLOWN AS SEEN ABOVE.
@RENEGADE
“Because that ONE album shyts on most any female artist’s 10 albums since then…. ”
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And she got her awards and chit like that for it. I mean, how are people goin worry about it?????
**Alicia Keys first two albums were superior, Beyonce’s “B -Day” was superior and Lil Mama’s “Voice of the Young People” was superior…**
yeah i think its the pressure to make another album like that one especially without the same people around you. i think its like dave chappelle after his second season its like it was so classic how can it be topped. and that keeps your from doing anything else again and without a doubt whatever new comes out its gonna be compared to her first album
Come on back Lauryn.
@Kwall Brandi didnt even like that fat dude…….
@ MAN DID YOU SAY LIL MAMA’S ALBUM WAS SUPERIOR
MOUTH says:
Lauren has raw talent that I can and always will appreciate
I was just belting out Ex-Factor last night… that album saved me!
AllNYC says:
Lauryn doesn’t really want to do this music thing any more. Imagine how difficult it is to walk away when the whole world is telling you to go back. Other people shouldn’t define your destiny for you.
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She still wants to do music. That wasn’t the problem. Music has always been her passion. What she had a problem with was these big record execs trying to mold her into this image that she wasn’t. They wanted her to be more mainstream and she wasn’t willing to conform. I applaud her. A lot of artists allow these execs to manipulate and changes them and they get lost in these “images” and lose sight of who they really are. She was trying to keep this from happeneing so she took a hiatus and I can’t say I blame her.
@MS. THICKNESS
“DID YOU SAY LIL MAMA’S ALBUM WAS SUPERIOR”
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Lil Mama > Lauryn Hill
**Alicia Keys first two albums were superior, Beyonce’s “B -Day” was superior and Lil Mama’s “Voice of the Young People” was superior…**
I love Mis-Ed just like the best of ‘em but she cant “borrow” all that material again, y’all.
But I would love to see her back. I love her voice.
“And there’s no way in hell I’m gonna compare L. Hill to Beyonce”
Why not?
oh boy, this sh!t. no one cares if she comes back or not. i wont act like she did one album and sat down, i mean, she spent years with the fugees and had great success. this was on cnn?
hmmm, are they done making a mockery of her, calling her crazy so fans would hopefully turn on her? we’ll see why no more shade on lauryn all of a sudden.
I love Lauryn and since she’s still under contract w/ Columbia Records, she has to deliver new music or pay back the millions they gave her.
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Ms. Hill! Hopefully this is true…..
@RENEGADE
” Lil mama??? seriously?? And there’s no way in hell I’m gonna compare L. Hill to Beyonce A.Keys gets a pass…those were two great albums.”
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Yeah, L. Hill wouldn’t want to be compared to Beyonce because there is no comparison. One has about 15 years of success and one has one album… over ten years ago.
Now, if it’s a baby makin contest Lauryn got the game on LOCK!
**YEAH NIGGA, LIL MAMA! DID YOU LISTEN TO THAT ALBUM?**
**Alicia Keys first two albums were superior, Beyonce’s “B -Day” was superior and Lil Mama’s “Voice of the Young People” was superior…**
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All of those folks who got named (Even Lil Daddy…) writes their own stuff. I think (jmo) that some of her reluctance to record stems from the fact that history is NOT gonna repeat itself. EVER. There will never be another “Miseducation” because she did not write that album. So unless all of those folks whose songs she took credit for writing come back…that is just a chapter in music history that will not be repeated.
One of the reasons she comes back every few years to make some money and then disappears again? Its maybe because once she settled with them out of court…it was an admission of guilt and she most likely got stripped of any songwriting credit she had on the album. Idk. Just a thought. Kinda like when you just pay a traffic ticket instead of going to court. It is the equivalent of pleading guilty. Same thing. We all know the money is in songwriting. This is why Mimi will never be broke and Whitney is reported to be. So instead of pushing her to tour or perform folks should be pushing her to write.
(Turns on Ipod and plays “Nothing Even Matters” SUNG by Miss Hill and D’Angelo..who knows who wrote it…still a good song).
i think everybody is holding their breath, waiting for lauryn to return and put all these other “R&B” acts to shame, finally.
… and congrats on the cnn plug!
she may be on a trip to mars….but her voice is everlasting…lol
IF and whenEVA she comes back…I will still be a fan.
Actually, I don’t think Lauryn will have a hard time topping the first album. She is one of the very few artist that are just talented like that.
I think she loves the music but can leave all the other stuff that goes along with it. And to be honest, not many REAL artist get to really do THEIR music, after the lable execs get thru with you it hardly resembles the essence of the artist at all.
I wish her the best in whatever she chooses to do.
What’s up OTB…Look’s like man has all the women showing what they twerking with
@ Man, Alicia and Beyonce are overrated. None of their albums are classic IMO. I liked Amerie’s 1st album better than their 1st albums put together.
Mamacita says, “She still wants to do music. That wasn’t the problem. Music has always been her passion. What she had a problem with was these big record execs trying to mold her into this image that she wasn’t.”
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You better preach!! Not everyone want to live on *Planet Commercial.
*Planet commercial is a term I jacked from MC Keys The Problem. It is used to describe the place where many artists sell their souls and talent to ignorance and buffoonery for money.
**YEAH NIGGA, LIL MAMA! DID YOU LISTEN TO THAT ALBUM?**
Nigga?? Really? I stopped when my lip gloss started poppin….
Comparing Lil Mama to Lauren Hill is like comparing Tiny to Kim K.
@CINDERELLA
” Alicia and Beyonce are overrated. None of their albums are classic IMO. I liked Amerie’s 1st album better than their 1st albums put together.”
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I see you was out with Whitney last night doin what you do:
AMERIE??????? SHE don’t even remember her own songs nigga!
**tho that bytch is bad…**
Play with it Free.
i’m more impressed with CNN quoting SR. SR IS OFFICIALLY ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS!
Lauren sucked as a solo artist IMO. The miseducation was a dry album with no classics. Her best work was with the fugues.
@ Man, Uhhhhhh, why everyone gotta be the N word and Amerie is a bad Bytch?
Ok clearly you have fell and bumped your head this morn
No wonder Murder Inc fell off
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Murda Inc fell off cause 50 sent Ja Fool’s career and manhood out to play while Irv was busy bedding Ashanti AND her momma….and because they BOTH got caught up in some hoe shyt with Supahead. Jmo.
@NIKA
“Comparing Lil Mama to Lauren Hill is like comparing Tiny to Kim K.”
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hooooooooooole up nigga, hooooooooooole up! Sandra should put some kind of software or something in place that prevents the word “Tiny” or “Tameeka” being typed in the same sentence as.
(new sentence)
KIM K.!!
That was pure blasphemy. You should have felt a slight burning sensation just typing that.
“The miseducation was a dry album with no classics”
What is classic in your opinon @DeliciousOne?
Didn’t it come out a few years later that her Miseducation was a big fat fraud? If she wants to spend the rest of her life making babies and wearing a homey the clown wig, it’s entirely up to her, I could care less if this chick ever comes back or not.
Well done Sandra on the shoutout from Cnn. I like how you court controversy and make no apologies for it.
Hello All. Lauren’s CD was the baddest CD ever, every song had a message and was a hit. The words were fierce and poignant. Whenever I want to get into my militant mood, I listen to her. Such a powerful message! Have a great week family! Peaceeeeeeeeeee.
PS For the record, I was born and raised in Martinsville VA, home of the Martinsville Seven, the largest mass execution for rape in U.S. history. For the past 33 yrs, I’ve resided in DC, chocolate city, which is slowly but surely turning vanilla!
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Play with it Free
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kwall says:
But until then they will remain “married in their hearts” like Brandy and the fat guy.
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*iDied*
Jesus I hope my penthouse is ready, because this heffa done kilt me
@FREE
“Play with it Free
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Hehehehehe, you know me. I’m posting a booty shot ta-ma-raaa
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Didn’t it come out a few years later that her Miseducation was a big fat fraud?
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Yep. But I still bump those OTHER folks song like it is 99/00
*Switches my Ipod to “Lost Ones” which she actually MIGHTA wrote in an effort to slay ‘Clef…again, who KNOWS??
MISEDUCATION of LAUREN HILL….. Killing me softly…aaaawwwwww lawd…
@OTB
New Ark wanted credit for writing 2 songs on the album…not the whole thing. And Beyonce takes credit for writing her songs too…
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@FREE
“Play with it Free
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Booty shots make my day go faster at work!
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@ Kwall, I was just being sarcastic when I said that but for him to make that comparison shows that he doesn’t have good judgement. I’m just sayin
The whole industry does. I was just wondering why they couldnt be compared…
And New Arc said 13 or 14 songs… :/
but for him to make that comparison shows that he doesn’t have good judgement.
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I agree with Man’s #1 comment I like Lauryn but Damn she wasn’t a legend or anything like that-
@outsidethebox
A classic to me is something like MJ’s Thriller, Biggies Ready To die, what’s going on, marvin gaye, Sade’s Diamond Life etc. Albums that have distinctive lyrics and baselines. Lauryn’s miseducation has none on these qualities and I think she won those Grammies for it based on hype from the fugees.
lauren hill wrote her album. i guess most people dont know how music works you are suppose to get credit if you contribute anything to a song. if i make a song and say the chorus is just missing a line if you come up with that line you are technically suppose to get credit. people sit in studios and ideas are tossed around and depending on who it is the person sometime gets credit more often they do not. the album was just so huge people wanted there share of the pie. the music connected on another level thats why she pushed over 8 million copies and no other r&b female artist has done numbers like that solo
Go ‘head Sandra, you’re quoted in CNN. Welcome to the “Big Time”.
@EAST POINT
“…she pushed over 8 million copies and no other r&b female artist has done numbers like that solo”
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That’s cause it was in the late ’90′s. The same album dropped today would do about 2 million. And she would be lucky to get that.
#whobuysalbumsanymore
if i make a song and say the chorus is just missing a line if you come up with that line you are technically suppose to get credit. people sit in studios and ideas are tossed around and depending on who it is the person sometime gets credit more often they do not.
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that is the same shat SHE said…
@OTB I was saying 2 songs cause they specifically said the did “most of the writing” on 2 and wanted credit for basically “contributing” to others.
And I agree with East…if i’m in the studio and I write 95% of the song and you say oh I think you should say this instead of that…does that mean you wrote the song? Should you get credit? Yes! But hell no you didn’t write the song….IMO I feel like it was her vision and mostly her work…she got help editing the raw work.
Whoever wrote it Lauren sang it. I still play that cd to this day. Zion is my song. Hey Kwall and the rest of the fam!
Hmmm Off the Wall was more classic to me than Thriller….but I understand
@DeliciousOne
Dang @East we know how music works! But if Bey dont get to say she wrote her chit, L-Boogie doesnt either! #sorry
/stanning
Anyway, I agree with “credits”; whether I write one line or twenty, they all come together to form the song.
@man
thats like saying oh thriller came out in the 80s thats why it sold 35 million if it came out today it would sale 3 million. thats a mute point it sold 8 million its not a hypothetical situation. alicia only came out a few years after that cd she did pretty good with 6 million and beyonce did ok also with 4 million the fact is its still a better album than all those the fact thats it still being talking about 12 years later.
@OTB
its different though Bey is doing the im the star thing so you should be honored to have wrote this song for me even though u wont see any credit for it other than this payment you getting under the table. lauryn had a more of a team around her were they did stuff together and they just wanted they credit. its different than the strong arm tactic
Yeah, I agree @East but I tend to give Bey a pass cause I believe she was just doing what has “always been done” BUT I agree she is a singer and Lauryn is a singer/songwriter.
I juat cant imagine sweet wallflower Bey strong arming somebody.
LMAO
@EAST POINT
“thats like saying oh thriller came out in the 80s thats why it sold 35 million if it came out today it would sale 3 million. thats a mute point it sold 8 million its not a hypothetical situation. alicia only came out a few years after that cd she did pretty good with 6 million and beyonce did ok also with 4 million the fact is its still a better album than all those the fact thats it still being talking about 12 years later. ”
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Is it your posistion that had the album “The Miseducatiion of Lauryn Hill” come out in more recent years, it still would have sold 8 million copies, Yes or no?
“GIRLS YOU KNOW YOU BETTER WATCH OUT, CAUSE GUYS SOME GUYS ARE ONLY ABOUT, THAT THING THAT THING THAT THINGINGGGGGG”
“ITS BEEN THREE WEEK SINCE YOU BUT LOOKING FOR YOUR FRIEND, THE ONE YOU HAD LET HIT AND NEVER CALLED YOU AGAIN, REMEMBER WHEN HE TOLD YOU HE WAS ABOUT THE BENJAMINS”
(doing the doo-wop)
Welp, 4 more ppl are listed on “Irreplaceable” too. Guess they didnt need their shine.
I love Lauryn and since she’s still under contract w/ Columbia Records, she has to deliver new music or pay back the millions they gave her.
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Exactly. These record companies are in deep doo-doo and they are not playing about their money anymore.
Anyone who goes into the studio and can’t stop either preaching or crying is saying they don’t want to be there anymore. The threat of losing a whole bunch of money is a powerful motivator.
Again…. Lauryn’s album was sold on hype from the fugees. Those were the days when people would get excited about a lead singer of a popular group going solo. The days when people would have to buy the whole album before listening and not like today where we get leaks on YouTube. There is not one distinctive song, baseline or lyric on ‘miseducation’. In fact the only one I can rem is what she lifted from Gladys knight. ‘it could all be so simple’ which was a play on a lyric from Gladys ‘the way we were…’
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The Miseducation was a beautiful album, and Lauryn is a brilliant artist. I didn’t hear about the recent controversy of the writing credits until recently but it still doesn’t negate the fact that it was an incredible album. OFF TOPIC: why can’t movers give you a definite time, why does it always have to be between 12 and 3pm?
Can’t wait to read the story on my brake. I’m hoping there is some word of a mental recovery. That is the only thing stopping her.
@ OTB, Yeah the Stargate producers also wrote on that record. Since you have to give credit to all the contributors (if they’re not paid to not take credit), who really knows who’s responsible for these songs.
Lauren Hill didn’t need to use base lines in every song. Her voice was the instrument. Not many people can sing with just a ggeettar (guitar). People pick the silliest things to discredit talent.
Lauren Hill is that chick and she could sell and album singing aca pella.
Her voice was the instrument.
Candy Apple says:
‘Lauren Hill didn’t need to use base lines in every song. Her voice was the instrument. Not many people can sing with just a ggeettar (guitar). People pick the silliest things to discredit talent.
Lauren Hill is that chick and she could sell and album singing aca pella.’
She couldn’t sell that live acoustic album that she did where most of the songs were like over 10 mins long…just saying.
DeliciousOne says:
Candy Apple says:
‘Lauren Hill didn’t need to use base lines in every song. Her voice was the instrument. Not many people can sing with just a ggeettar (guitar). People pick the silliest things to discredit talent.
Lauren Hill is that chick and she could sell and album singing aca pella.’
She couldn’t sell that live acoustic album that she did where most of the songs were like over 10 mins long…just saying.
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Acctually that album did well. And it all depends on how one measures success. Are you saying she should have went Platinum. She was on space-crack and many artist have at least one album that sells below peoples standards. But what were her standard while creating this album. Was it personal or was it for money. I digress.
i love lauryn hill, and after reading all the comments some people are just plain crazy! lol Hey Krysi, iscream, eastpoint! I miss u guys but i ha to lock down and focus on school! Iscream i read your book girl it was GOOD! I mad ol girl dies at the end…..i need a part II!
And in fact that album recieved little to no promotion
” Iscream i read your book girl it was GOOD! I mad ol girl dies at the end…..i need a part II!”-FLYQTNVA
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Wow..
**takes Iscreams’ book out of my Amazon shopping cart…**
hey shunda@67. it’s raining here and when i saw that you spoke to me, i thought about your lil weatherman. how is he and his diva sister lol?
@man
my position is that any album thats over 5 years old will sale less today than it would have when it came out but thats saying what? it sold 8 million in a time when people did buy music.
@delicious
how could people only buy her album because of the fugees? she sold more albums than there album together. you can get away with maybe a million people or possibly even 2 million then without listening to the album before they buy it but 8 million people not going to buy a record without already knowing they like it. and she had about 5 singles off that album to get radio play which is a testament to the quality of the album and people wanting to hear her music
@Man, I just don’t care™ says:
So i bought the book over a years ago I mean WTF you should have been got up off that 17 bucks, what r u waiting 4, a sale lmao
@eastpoint, People still buy albums. Unfortunately, most R&B and Hip-Hop fans don’t. Rock, Pop and Country artists still sell records.
@EAST POINT
“my position is that any album thats over 5 years old will sale less today than it would have when it came out but thats saying what? it sold 8 million in a time when people did buy music.”
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Good, we’re in agreement. Now, with the agreement that albums over five years old wouldn’t sale as well in today’s market being understood, Lauryn’s 8 million records sold in late 90′s sales would translate into approximately 2 million in sales in 2005 and after sales.
Good but nothing groundbreaking. For all of it’s acclaim, the album was good but nothing that is revolutionary. Half of it’s notierity comes from the fact that Lauryn disappeared afterward. Not because the album itself was so great.
@FLYQTNVA
“So i bought the book over a years ago I mean WTF you should have been got up off that 17 bucks, what r u waiting 4, a sale lmao”
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It just so happens that EVERYONE wasn’t aware of the book…
**I TRY to support our people, lord knows I do…**
@cinderalla
music as a whole is way down. the top selling album last year was 3 million when it used to be 10 million. its not just an r&b and hiphop thing because truthfully the biggest artist still do decent numbers. eminem just came out an already has the top selling album this year across all genres but even as well as he is selling now years ago he sold 2.4 million albums in one week. we will never see numbers like that again.
@man
now with your adjusted for inflation album sales numbers and you giving her 2 million in todays terms. tell me how many albums last year sold over 2 million albums. ill help you out because its less than 5 which would still put it at the top of the charts so it would be pretty groundbreaking.
*peeps in*
@fly I AGREE…ISCREAM’S BOOK WAS BANANAS!!! I bought one and sent it to my friend…Bish read MY COPY in 2 days. I’ma need her to get to writing asap.
anyhoo…WTF IS GOIN ON UP IN CHEA!
@eastpoint….you hit the nail on the head. I completely agree with you. That’s twice in one week we agreed on something. lol
@EAST POINT
“now with your adjusted for inflation album sales numbers and you giving her 2 million in todays terms. tell me how many albums last year sold over 2 million albums. ill help you out because its less than 5 which would still put it at the top of the charts so it would be pretty groundbreaking.”
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That was a rough guestimate to begin with. And we all know 2 million in sales today definitely does not signify “groundbreaking.”
A true comparison would adjust for inflation and true ratio for late 90′s sales to today. How many people sold 8 million records in the late 90′s? Etc. etc. etc. The point is, 8 million THEN is DEFINITELY not as impressive as if she were to sell that many now.
**Didn’t TLC sell over 10 million with “CrazySexyCool” a year or two prior to “The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill?”**
@flyqt
*waving hard* heyyyyyyyyyyyyy
yes its been a long time. Thanks for the support. Do you have a twitter account? I don’t visit round these parts much anymore 
Aww Divine you even stopped in. See you on the other side. Lol
@man
Confused. How can you take a book you didn’t know about out of your amazon basket? You know that I know that you know that I wrote a book. You spoke on it in the past. (o_-)
Anyhoo. Anyone in the NY area I will be having a book reading tonight at the NY public library at 9 west 124th street in Harlem. Come get your copy signed.
@Man I just don’t care,
You sicken me, just as when you used to spew your ignorant diatribes on B.o.S.s.I.p.! Why don’t you go back over there and post?
…Got the nerve to come at L. Boogie, yet you’re upholding lil’(ghetto)mama and BeyonStank????
How dare you care someone else on here a n****r, when you are in fact ignorance personified.
*how dare you call someone else a n****r
Lauren Hills album was ground breaking. Everybody still remembers all the lyrics to every song on her album. LOL
It’s flaming hots and dill pickle juice. Dayum…my fingaz gonna be red! But, it’s oh so good!
in the late 90s only titanic, backstreet boys, britany spears did more than what lauryn sold and thats saying a lot considered those were mega pop groups. tlc came out about 4 years before that and they crossed over pop.
L Boogie, bring it on back girl! You have true fans out there, like myself, who will buy whatever you put out! Don’t worry about the naysayers, just write a song about ‘em. Lauryn tells us exactly why she did what she did on her Unplugged cd. Still love that isht and Miseducation! Plus the Fugees music is still hot 15 years later!
PPL R YU SERIOUS THAT 1 ALBUM REDEFINED R&B! THERE WILL NEVER BE AN ALBUM LIK THAT EVER AGAIN ITS CLASSIC! IM ONLY 18 YEARS OLD I WAS ONLI 6 WHEN IT CAME OUT! AND I VIBE TO IT TODAY LIK I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO KNO WAT IT WAS BAC THEN! THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER MISEDUCATION OF LAURYN HILL…NEVER!
@iscream im on twitter:
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girl keep me posted to what you have going on! You won me over! Glad to see your doing ur thang! Make those dreams come true!
@divinebrown
i read it in one day! While getting my hair braided, GIRL Girl Girl!
and if yu look at interview with beyonce you will hear her say when she made single ladies she liked it cuz it was “CATCHY”! WTF i dont want to listen to music thats catchy i wanna listen to music that hav soul and meaning to itd! alicia is cool bt she will never be lauryn hill! no female album will HAV NOT OR WILL EVER BE AS GOOD AS MISEDUCATION!
@dlamonte
i agree with you but dont waste ur time, anybody that tries to discredit this woman, her music, or writings are simply crazy!
Lauren Hill was so beautiful. My mom still listens to “The Miseducation..” in her car.
flyqtnva says:
@dlamonte
i agree with you but dont waste ur time, anybody that tries to discredit this woman, her music, or writings are simply crazy!
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I AGREE! IM DONE LOL!
@ISCREAM
“Confused. How can you take a book you didn’t know about out of your amazon basket? You know that I know that you know that I wrote a book. You spoke on it in the past. (o_-) ”
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I didn’t say I didn’t know about it! LOL. Seriously, I was just messing with FLYQTNVA for telling part of the story. Nothing serious.
@NILANO
“You sicken me, just as when you used to spew your ignorant diatribes on B.o.S.s.I.p.! Why don’t you go back over there and post?
…Got the nerve to come at L. Boogie, yet you’re upholding lil’(ghetto)mama and BeyonStank????
How dare you care someone else on here a n****r, when you are in fact ignorance personified. ”
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Da fluck is this? Sound like you just been hatin for a hot minute or something.
Canddyapple wrote ‘Acctually that album did well. And it all depends on how one measures success. Are you saying she should have went Platinum. She was on space-crack and many artist have at least one album that sells below peoples standards. But what were her standard while creating this album. Was it personal or was it for money. I digress.’
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It barely sold 2 million which was a lot less than ‘education’. To reiterate people went out to buy that album on the back of the success of The fugees.
The sales of that MTV unplugged album prove that you are wrong when you say people just wanted to hear her voice and not distinctive baselines, unique lyrics and other things that classifies a classic album. IMO The Fugees- The Score was a much better album than Miseducation. Education was crying out for Wyclef’s production skills.
The MTV Unplugged album didn’t sell as well because the music was not quite the same as Miseducation. A lot of people still don’t know the reason why Lauren Hill is in seclusion. She isn’t crazy like the media wants us to believe, same as with Dave Chappelle. You do what the industry wants or you are painted as crazy and black-listed. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear…
if thats the case why didnt wyclef or pras have hugely sucessful solo albums? thats because lauryn was the talent they needed to take the sound to the next level so how can she ride off the success when nobody else in the group can? MTV unplugged was an album of new material live that was largely unpolished. its hard to buy into a live album when you never heard the studio album version to identify with the songs. had the mtv unplugged been of miseducation it would have sold a whole lot more
Eastpointvet says: ‘how could people only buy her album because of the fugees? she sold more albums than there album together. you can get away with maybe a million people or possibly even 2 million then without listening to the album before they buy it but 8 million people not going to buy a record without already knowing they like it. and she had about 5 singles off that album to get radio play which is a testament to the quality of the album and people wanting to hear her music’
I am not in America so maybe I see things from a global perspective. You can’t deny that ‘The Score’ was the Fugees breakout album that introduced Lauryn Hill to the world. Lauryn would not have moved those numbers had she released the album after Sister Act 2. She was the lead singer and beautiful female of the biggest hip hop group on the planet at that time, a rare position held by any female if any at all
The Fugees album the Score outsold miseducation by at least 3 million all over the world.
that goes without saying the group introduced her to the world but she was the star no doubt just like justin was the star of nsync or even busta rhymes from leaders of the new school. that still doesnt take away from her album and even with your global perceptive you are wrong miseducation did 18 million worldwide the score did 14 million
Wyclef and Pras didn’t have successful albums because people attributed the Fugees sound to Lauryn but they were wrong because it was really Wyclef’s production and music arrangements that elevated the group together with Lauryn’s vocals. Wyclef can still produce hot tracks as he did when he remixed the Destiny’s Child track ‘no, no, no’ which made them international stars. He also produced smash hits for Whitney, Shakira, mary j blige etc.
Lauryn wrote and produced songs for both Aretha and Mary j blige which flopped!!
wyclef and pras flopped because they are not stars in the same light as lauryn. the average consumer does not attribute what they buy based of who they think responsible for producing. the fugees album and lauryn album are sonically different so you cant attribute the sound when the 2 dont sound nothing alike. the score sounds nothing like miseducation. wyclef is a great producer i wont take that away from him but for what you are talking im starting to think you are wyclef or somebody in his family.
The Score sold 18million worldwide
Miseducation …where are you getting your figures from? I am getting max 11 million.
Pras flopped by Wyclef did not. As I said Wyclef was the main force behind The Fugees, not Lauryn, not Pras. IMO they worked better as a group and not as solo acts. However Wyclef has proved his worthiness as a producer with hits for Destiny’s child, Whitney etc.
lol..I am not in Wyclef’s family. I just don’t get the hype over Lauryn.
Auntie….you were interviewed by CNN?? I’m so proud…more and more people are finding out what we already know…..you do come with that scoop!
Perez, move that azz over! Sandra Rose is about to take over…..!
katgirl33 says:
Auntie….you were interviewed by CNN?? I’m so proud…more and more people are finding out what we already know…..you do come with that scoop!
Perez, move that azz over! Sandra Rose is about to take over…..!
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Thanks.
So the real point of this post was for us to see CNN quotin’ you & ish huh? Kudos 2 u Sandra…and I hella wish I could “like” comments on here….lol