chris brown begs judge to remove Rihanna’s restraining order

Sandra Rose January 28, 2011

Troubled R&B singer chris brown, 21, appeared in court today (Jan. 28) with his attorney Mark Geragos for a probation progress report hearing in Los Angeles. According to Radaronline.com, Geragos asked the judge to remove the restraining order that was imposed on him after he pled guilty to assaulting Rihanna in 2009.

“It makes it difficult at award shows and such,” said Geragos. brown has three Grammy nominations but he is not scheduled to attend the award show next month.

The judge will consider whether Rihanna and her attorney will approve modifying the order from a “stay away” order to a “do not annoy.” brown was given a sentence of five years probation and ordered to complete 180 days of community labor and a year of domestic violence counseling.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

all part of the plan…

Rhi want her man back….and this is just a formailty

Rhi will have to sign off on it… for it to be granted ….and she will…
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ Ace: Trust me, Rihanna does not want chris back. She could have modified the order or asked the judge to rescind it much sooner if she really wanted him back.
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

Ace –

I doubt this has anything to do with RiRi wanting Chris back, or Chris even wanting to go back to Ri, this is about dollars and scents. I think they’ve both moved on at this point and I think it’s time we let them.

I was mad at Chris for a long time and really wanted him to fail and lose a whole lot of money to show him (and kids like him) that it’s not acceptable to beat on a woman – unfortunately, the message was lost on most people because WOMEN were the first ones to jump to Chris Brown’s defense (even though he admitted that he wore HER ass out).

The message that we will not tolerate black men beating on women got lost in the tug of war, “She must have done something/I heard she was a bitch” type conversations and young black boys walked away with the same message they got before: “Hell, if a boy whooped Rihanna and even my MAMA blamed her… ain’t nothin wrong with a little bump and bruise”

I think he’s learned his lesson. She seems to be moving on. Let’s all give them both the benefit of the doubt.
Daisy

Right she could have asked but didn’t cause of the BACKLASH it would have caused

I never felt a restraining order was needed and def not for 5 yrs

Rihanna is on record as saying she didn’t want the order for professional reasons just like CBs lawyer stated (if he really did) she doesn’t hate him and has moved on just like he has. I feel they should have decided if they wanted to be friends or not after they had time to heal and move on.

I bet this is about the upcoming Grammys

#stillteamChriannaalsoknownasteamBOTH
Daisy

@Carrington Did you leave out the word “SOME” women? I know I supported CB NOT his actions and plenty of WOMEN stopped supporting him all together even here on this blog #justsaying

Good Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

Carrington –

I gotta agree with that message has been lost….and it is not acceptable to raise your hand to a woman….but i also believe second chances and redemption and that people can change…

It took me 1 time fighting my own sis to know i would never want to put my hands on a female ever again.

It took me 1 time going to jail to know i never wanted todo anything to go back.

And if i want to believe in second chances for myself i HAVE to believe there is redemption and second chances for others.

Deep down i doubt these two get back together…but from a Stan point a view…Rhianna seemed happiest when she was with Chris and vice versa. Sometimes that pursuit(for happiness) will lead people back to where they found it in spades…and hope the lessons were learned.
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

@ Daisy,

It’s all semantics. Some people feel the need to add specific identifiers – I don’t. Usually because I tend to give people enough credit that they understand that when I say “people”, that’s not all inclusive, just like “women” isn’t either.

There’s no way for me to know all women, but those women who argued pro Chris – even when the evidence said different know to whom I’m referring.

I guess it would make more sense to do it your way though because, inevitably, I end up having to come back to insert specified idenifiers.

No harm, no foul. *I didn’t mean all women, clearly I couldn’t have since Sandra Rose still refers to his a$$ as “troubled singer Chris Brown” LMAO!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Carrington says:

I was mad at Chris for a long time and really wanted him to fail and lose a whole lot of money to show him (and kids like him) that it’s not acceptable to beat on a woman – unfortunately, the message was lost on most people because WOMEN were the first ones to jump to Chris Brown’s defense (even though he admitted that he wore HER ass out).
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So true! We are our own worst enemies.
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

I hear you Ace – I didn’t want him to fail eternally. I wanted his last album to fail and for him to have to work like hell to get to where he once was.

That way, he’d have a clear understanding that being a millionaire, being celebrity – loved and adored by millions, and doing what you love doing for a living is a blessing and not to be taken for granted.

The fight to get back should have served as all the “points taken” he’ll ever need.

And I hope he’s learned his lesson… AND I hope that he’ll make a comeback.
I Run New York

I think the order should definitely stay in place. Someone who committed that vicious of a beating needs to be nowhere near their victim. He should of thought about award shows when he was pounding her face in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

Sandra Rose says:

@ Ace: Trust me, Rihanna does not want chris back. She could have modified the order or asked the judge to rescind it much sooner if she really wanted him back.
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i may be wrong….But from what i “think” i remember Rhianna didn’t want the restraing order to begin with it was the Judge that made it happen..and yes i know this is typical in such cases.. but to say she could of modified or rescinded it would be hard…it would be the judge or a CB petition +Rhi’s consent and Judge believing it nolonger necessary to modify or remove it…
I Run New York

@ Ace
“i may be wrong….But from what i “think” i remember Rhianna didn’t want the restraing order to begin with it was the Judge that made it happen”

It’s irrelevant what she wants. A lot of times victim’s don’t want whats in their best interest. I worked at a DA’s office in New York. You have women who are victims of the most heinous crimes and in many cases don’t want to press charges. These type of decisions can not be left up to the victim. Domestic violence does a lot of psychological damage to a person and they are in no position to make these kind of decisions.
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

@ I Run New York,

Is there no room for redemption in the “justice” system? So, once you steal a piece of candy from the grocery store as a kid, you’re always a thief?

At what point can you go through the system, learn a lesson and decide (like Ace) that I refuse to go through that again – I repent of my sins and I refuse to allow my temper to take me through THIS again?

Surely Chris Brown lost a LOT more than the average man who beat his woman and wasn’t killed as a result. I think he’s learned his lesson – at what point does the system allow him to move forward?

At what point do you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

@IRNY

….you forgot part of my quote there “…and yes i know this is typical in such cases…”

but you statement is correct which adds to the statement i was trying to make that Rhi couldn’t just up and stop the order when she wanted to as Auntie was implying.
speedy12

First of all…How the hell does Sandra Rose know what Ri wants. It was stated in court today that Ri ORIGINALLY did not want the order in place in the first place. THE ORDER WILL BE REDUCED. RIHANNA DOESN’T WANT IT!!! In fact…Garragos had already contacted Etra b4 the appearance in court…trust everything was already handled beforehand. All the crap we saw in court today was for media..ie TMZ. Rihanna has no ill-will towards CB….who knows if she still wants to be with him….by other indications she says different..but I won’t go into that. Point of the matter is…CB and Rih both know and knew what went on in that courtroom and what the outcome will be…WHY DO YOU THINK HE HAD THAT BIG COOLAID SMILE ON HIS FACE…GET A LIFE SANDRA!!! Rihanna and CB will ALWAYS BE LINKED!!! SO HATE ON!!!
speedy12

……another thing I should point out…..if you see CB and Rih at the Grammys together (but separate)…then THE ORDER HAS BEEN REDUCED…Same with them being at parties and other events at the same time….THATS WHEN YOU’LL KNOW. SANDRA PREPARE TO BE DISAPPOINTED YET AGAIN…..
I Run New York

“Surely Chris Brown lost a LOT more than the average man who beat his woman and wasn’t killed as a result. ”

He didn’t serve a day in jail for beating and strangling someone to the point that they lost consciousness. How do you figure he’s been punished more than the average man? The average person does jail time when they commit felonies.

“Is there no room for redemption in the “justice” system?”

What does redemption have to do with having a restraining order being lifted?
http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

what? latenight sandra talk? nice….
reduce it, its not like hes been still threating her etc like the typical women beater, im sure rihanna is safe, which is the point, her safety shouldnt be compromised
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

@Sponge

Yeah late Nite on SR…its my first time…so figured i drop 2 cents and what not…

How are you..?
http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

Im fine, home from work, sick of snow ……..

them reducing the restraining order isnt taking nothing away from his crime, he’s still a convicted felon. its not like hes being pardoned
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

Redemption has a LOT to do with it. Clearly, the courts don’t view him as a threat and if Rihanna and her attorney’s don’t view it that way what’s the point of keeping it in place and causing the both of them to continue to have to “adjust” their lives based upon a night of bad judgement.

You work for the D.A. – and you can’t see why a “deal” like this is feasible… what about the DAILY deals the District Attorney’s make with HARDENED criminals?

Chris Brown was a beast that night, I get it. He paid for it – again, he paid MUCH more than the average man would have. If time, money and being on paper for as long as he’s been hasn’t “fixed” Chris’ issues… another 3 years won’t do it either.
Dawn

He just wants to work. It has nothing to do with Ri Ri. The whole domestic violence incident was over shadowed basically because of who whas involved. If it were to be an example for young men and women it was missed. Nobody learned anything from it. I’m sure his temper is still the same and I’m sure RiRi still has the same insecurities and temper as well. Hitting is wrong doesn’t matter who hits who.

No advocates came out to help people who are truly being abused. All people seem to care about is if they still loved each other or whose going back to who. Fame takes away the importance of a lot of important issues, everything gets pushed under the rug.
I Run New York

“Chris Brown was a beast that night, I get it.”

You seem to be implying that this was his only incidence of violence which is not true.

“Clearly, the courts don’t view him as a threat and if Rihanna”

The court didn’t grant his request. How are you reaching the conclusion that they don’t view him as a threat?

“You work for the D.A. – and you can’t see why a “deal” like this is feasible… what about the DAILY deals the District Attorney’s make with HARDENED criminals?”

Deals are part of the system. Never seen one where someone gets no jail time for felony assault though. In fact I’ve seen someone get 3 days for jumping a turn style. What information are you referencing when you say he was treated A LOT WORSE than the average person?
speedy12

PREACH CARRINGTON…LET EM KNOW!!!
RoderickXYZ

My take on this situation is that these two were too young to have been in a serious relationship in the first place.

Second it’s ironic that we are talking about Chris Brown today now that Charlie Sheen has f’ed up again and has finally checked himself into rehab.

Chris Brown was still a teenager when the incident occurred with Rhiana but no one wants to forgive him.

Charlie Sheen has had many incidents over the years yet he is always forgiven. Hell the production company of the show which was supposed to begin shooting next week stated that they will halt production until Charlie is better.

It’s a shame that Chris Brown can’t get the same treatment.
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

You’re in New York, try the Sean Bell case on for size. Where is your outrage for REAL victims of injustice?

For every “3 day sentence” for a turnstyle jumper, there are probably 50 cases of assault that barely go punished. That’s the JUSTICE system and you should know that more than anybody.

OJ Simpson killed two people and walked away and if you’re truly a lover of the LAW, you’d let the SYSTEM deal with Chris Brown and not your PERSONAL issues with him.

How can you NOT see that he lost a few million dollars as a result of that single night of ignorance. That alone is enough to make him straighten up and fly right if you ask me.

At the end of the day, this discussion is rooted in your issues with CHRIS BROWN – and I would be willing to bet that if he worked at the grocery store, you wouldn’t give a damn.
I Run New York

“Charlie Sheen has had many incidents over the years yet he is always forgiven. Hell the production company of the show which was supposed to begin shooting next week stated that they will halt production until Charlie is better.

It’s a shame that Chris Brown can’t get the same treatment.”

Let’s say all you’re statements are true about Charlie Sheen and Chris Brown. Why in the word would you want Chris Brown to be treated like Charlie Sheen who has one foot in the grave? He’s a drug addict with no self control who is surrounded by enablers. Why would you want that for someone else.
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

Charlie Sheen is a drug addict who is hurting Charlie Sheen. Chris Brown hurt someone ELSE… I would hope that that’s the difference in treatment.

Apples and oranges.
jazi65

Rih Rih doesn’t want chicken chest brown back but it’s only fair to let the boy has his lil moment & attend the award show..Then he can help Trey Songz carry his awards home
I Run New York

“You’re in New York, try the Sean Bell case on for size. Where is your outrage for REAL victims of injustice?”

1) I don’t agree that there was injustice in that case. (Man is acting beligerent and crazy at a strip club. Says he’s leaving to go get his gun. Charges police with his car and they fire.) 2nd There was ALOT of outrage. Did you miss the mass demonstrations?

“OJ Simpson killed two people and walked away and if you’re truly a lover of the LAW, you’d let the SYSTEM deal with Chris Brown and not your PERSONAL issues with him.”

The system is dealing with Chris Brown. They decided not to grant his motion to have the restraining order lifted today and instead they are going to consult with the other side and make a decision at a later date. How am I not letting the system deal with him? by posting commentary on a blog

“How can you NOT see that he lost a few million dollars as a result of that single night of ignorance. ”

The fact that he lost some money means he has been treated A LOT WORSE than the average person? That makes no sense. Don’t you think when people go to jail and lose their liberty and freedom they also lose money. Chris Brown has a huge fan base and celebrity, he will work and make albums. The average Joe with a felony conviction will not. How do you feel Chris Brown has been treated WAY WORSE than the average person?

“I would be willing to bet that if he worked at the grocery store, you wouldn’t give a damn.”

LOL When I worked at the DA’s office all the cases were of average Joe’s. No superstars. I do care about the cases of average people.
http://twitter.com/Jerrica_Lewis Jerrica

Trey Songz? Nobody was checking for Trey until all that happened with Chris. All of a sudden Jay-Z wants Trey on his tour? Jay is on Rihanna’s side so he wanted Chris to fail. Trey had to get all sexed up to get on. I liked Trey in his “just gotta make it days” better than this sexed up boy. Was what Chris did right? Hell no and I think he should’ve served some jail time but it’s not up to us what should’ve happened to him. I’m so happy that MAN is not the person that I have to answer to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

I believe Chris Brown is still an immature, arrogant azzhole with anger issues but the question here would be is he still a danger to Rihanna.

I’d have to say no. I doubt CB will ever put his hands on another woman period, let alone Rihanna cause, right or wrong, the world will be watching and waiting for him to fukk up again.

He didn’t lay a hand on me so he doesn’t need my forgiveness. If he has Rihanna’s and his own, that’s all that counts. And if nobody else learned anything from this incident, hopefully the two involved did.
GoldenGurl

So ova Chris and Rhihanna…NEXT…
speedy12

Trey Who? GTFOH!!!! He’s Done!
KDub

Charlie Sheen is a drug addict who is hurting Charlie Sheen. Chris Brown hurt someone ELSE…
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Not true. Charlie SHOT Kelly Preston (now Mrs. John Travolta) and has beat the daylights out of Denise Richards and his current wife too. He has been a mess for DECADES….

Chris has the chance to change due to the fact he was young and his paper not as long as the Sheen family….and the need to make money I am sure outweighs the want/need to kirk out when angry. Hopefully his classes for anger have worked. Basically I am saying Charlie and his old Hollywood money can and has cont. on his path because he CAN…Chris can’t afford it. Carrington’s very FIRST statement is that this is about MONEY AND CENTS…and it is!

I can’t sleep
stunnaz

We were born to make mistakes but how we alter them and move on from them is what matters. Chris is clearly making a good effort to alter that mistake. He is doing his anger classes, community service, and both Rihanna and Chris have stated via their twitters that they are over this and have moved on and would appreciate if people stopped talking about everytime. I am sure they have both gained life lessons from this..Rihanna, the type of man to go for and Chris how to treat women.
Daisy

I see NY has forgotten the reports of Rihannas past violence. CB was wrong for assualting RiRi that night but if past reports were true then she laid hands on him in the past as well which is also wrong. This was CB first time in a court of law so let’s stick w/the facts. I don’t condone of DV at all male or female. Everybody keep your hands to yourself don’t start none won’t be none.

I agree most people really didnt care about DV sadly just the hype around the case.

@Carrington I know you don’t know all women that is why I made my comment

Good Morning

PS Sean Bell thought the undercover plain clothes cops were trying to rob him he did not do anything wrong. That story was so sad I hate justice was never served.
RoderickXYZ

Charlie Sheen is a drug addict who is hurting Charlie Sheen. Chris Brown hurt someone ELSE… I would hope that that’s the difference in treatment.

Apples and oranges.

TMZ initially reported that Mueller called 911 claiming Sheen assaulted her, but that Sheen told law enforcement that Brooke was the aggressor and he was just fending her off.

Actor Charlie Sheen on Saturday denied charges from his estranged wife, actress Denise Richards, that he had been abusive toward her and their daughters and had threatened to kill her.

“I move forward and I maintain my integrity … and focus on my children,” Sheen told Entertainment Tonight co-anchor Mark Steines in an interview for the Paramount Pictures Corp. program to be aired on April 24.

“On Friday, Sheen was ordered to keep at least 300 feet (90 meters) away from Richards and their two young daughters after the abuse allegations were made in court papers.

The restraining order is the latest chapter in the stormy marriage between Sheen, a one-time playboy, and model/actress Richards, 35, who filed for divorce from him last December, after less than three years of marriage.”

Sheen was reacting to Richards’ written declaration that she could “no longer accept (his) abusive and threatening manner and must stop him from the cycle of his abuse toward me and our children and his continued threats of violence and statements that he is going to kill me.”

I Run New York says: Let’s say all you’re statements are true about Charlie Sheen and Chris Brown. Why in the word would you want Chris Brown to be treated like Charlie Sheen who has one foot in the grave? He’s a drug addict with no self control who is surrounded by enablers. Why would you want that for someone else.

My point is that everyone piled on Chris Brown who was still a teenager when the incident occurred. Why is no one willing to forgive and forget one bad night of judgement while everyone looks the other way for other stars who have exhibited years of bad behavior?

Granted Chris Brown should have kept his mouth shut about witnessing his mom being abused because everyone extrapolated from that that he was automatically an abuser and the aggressor when he beat down Rhianna.

Daisy, I have heard the same thing about her so that’s why I don’t understand why everyone is holding CB solely resposible for this situation.
Carmez79

the average abuse victim doesnt even get a restraining order that long….. i know this for a fact.
Phillybruh

I dont think the restraining order was put in place to protect Rihana who I think is the real aggressor in the relationship. Chris Brown was the Man/Boy so responsiblity would fall on him, but this is all been carefully orchastrated why havent we seen CB’s mugshot we’ve seen MJ’s and everybody else’s Sandra Can you get that Mugshot?
I Run New York

“PS Sean Bell thought the undercover plain clothes cops were trying to rob him he did not do anything wrong.”

He drove into a police van drunk and ran over someone’s leg b/c he thought he was being robbed? That makes no sense. A reasonable person doesn’t act like a jack*ss at a strip club, threaten people, and then run the police down a day before their wedding. Sean Bell was the only person in the wrong and all his kids are the true victims.
robin

It seems that CB has learned a valuable lesson. Actions have consequences. I honestly wish both parties the best going forward. The industry that they are in is very fickle. Always looking for the next hot artist. Time is money and many deserving young black men are not awarded second chances. I hope he makes the most of his as it seems the world will be watching. What I don’t get is the order being reduced to not annoy. How do you not annoy someone, just your mere pressence can be annoying. I know I find just the site of my boss on monday mornings to be beyond annoying.
lovezoe

I will say this, we need to teach BOTH girls and boys to keep their hands to themselves. Do I believe Chris hit her that night, absolutely! Do I think Rhianna sat there and took her a@@ whopping, nope! Not to stereotype, but I have had a few Bajan and island born friends, they don’t lie down and take ANYTHING. I think that goose head came from Chris slamming on the brakes, she not wearing her seat belt, and her head hit the dash. AGAIN, I DO THINK HE HIT HER THAT NIGHT! Why is it we have never seen a mugshot, TMZ paid top dollar to get Rhianna’s hospital shot, they pay to get everyone else’s, I think they paid for his too, but saw bruises and just chose to make t seem angry black man beats sweet island girl. It has been two years, let that man make his money. He has a talent, he has served his time in accordance to what the state of California gave him. If Vick can get redemption for killing a few mutts, so can CB.
aqtpie

I personally don’t suppornt Charlie Sheen nor know anyone who does. Can he get a pass from people who never supported him in the first place? He lost his Hanes endorsement and from reading the comments about him, a lot of his fans too. As far as Charlie getting dropped/support from CBS, get real he has the highest ranked show on there. Charlie makes 1.8 million per episode, if CBS dropped his show, they will loose millions. It’s not about CBS supporting his immoral actions or hell supporting him as a person for that matter but like Carrington said, “Its all about money”, as long as he continues to bring CBS millions, they will continue to support his bs. Had Chris had the highest ranked show on CBS, best believe he would’ve had their support to continue to make them millions too. If Charlie’s show rankings were to plummet & stopped bringing in millions, so would their support.
Daisy

Sean Bell was indeed a victim he was innocently killed by undercover cops #theend. There is no crime in going to a strip club for a bachelor party
I Run New York

The crime wasn’t going to a strip club. It was making threats, driving drunk, running over a person’s leg, and driving drunk into a police van.
http://twitter.com/Proberson07 proberson07

aqtpie says:

I personally don’t suppornt Charlie Sheen nor know anyone who does. Can he get a pass from people who never supported him in the first place? He lost his Hanes endorsement and from reading the comments about him, a lot of his fans too. As far as Charlie getting dropped/support from CBS, get real he has the highest ranked show on there. Charlie makes 1.8 million per episode, if CBS dropped his show, they will loose millions. It’s not about CBS supporting his immoral actions or hell supporting him as a person for that matter but like Carrington said, “Its all about money”, as long as he continues to bring CBS millions, they will continue to support his bs. Had Chris had the highest ranked show on CBS, best believe he would’ve had their support to continue to make them millions too. If Charlie’s show rankings were to plummet & stopped bringing in millions, so would their support.

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bravo! let the church say amen!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Dawn says:

He just wants to work. It has nothing to do with Ri Ri.
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Well, he should have thought about his work before he put his hands and foot on Rihanna.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Phillybruh says:

…why havent we seen CB’s mugshot we’ve seen MJ’s and everybody else’s Sandra Can you get that Mugshot?
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I’ll work on getting his mugshot. But in the meantime, how about you put up a Gravi so the ladies can see what you’re working wit?
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ CorporateQueen

Auntie Sandra is on roll this lovely Saturday afternoon.
Mr.BluPhi

A few days after the incident, they (Cb and Ri)were at Diddy’s place right?. So, clearly the order wasn’t Riri’s idea.

Like someone said, this is more about money. The reason Riri spoke out about the incident had nuttin to do with the fear that she was sending the wrong message to young woman…. she didn’t wanna lose fans. And right now he’s trying to get his career back on track….Its ALL ABOUT THE DOLLARS

I will say this, I’ve been in incident were a woman has been extremely aggressive. And when you’re mad, I mean really mad, a thump on the nose can make u go crazy. He was dead wrong for what he did to her, but with him being so young, I wanted ppl to reach out and help him and support him. I didn’t want him to receive the backlash he did.
Mr.BluPhi

On a sidenote : WTF is goin on with Chris hair in that picture. He didnt even try to brush that.
I Run New York

“. So, clearly the order wasn’t Riri’s idea.”

That’s irrelevant. As has been discussed, victims of domestic violence often do not know what is in their best interest. That is why these decisions are left in the hands of the court and not a fragile victim who has been brutalized in the worst way and is not thinking rationally.

“He was dead wrong for what he did to her, but with him being so young, I wanted ppl to reach out and help him and support him. I didn’t want him to receive the backlash he did.”

A lot of people have “helped” and “supported him”. His songs play on the radio,he’s performed at award shows, celebrities like Terrence Howard have defended his actions, etc. I don’t think that’s what he needs though. Shortly after the incident he was jet skiing in Miami. He clearly didn’t understand the gravity of what he did and thought beating someone like that is perfectly okay. It wasn’t until the backlash that he apologized and seemed to be showing some remorse.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ CorporateQueen

No offense to the Chris Brown supporters…but I feel all the backlash he got he deserved and maybe more. Yes, there are other celebs that might have a received lesser punishment for the crime…but that’s not the issue.

The real issue to me is the severity of the beat down. Clearly Rihanna was a battered woman and Chris’ punishment should have been a reflection of that. Hopefully, it will keep others from doing the same.

Close your eyes and imagine Rihanna is YOUR sister, daughter, friend or loved one and her superstar boyfriend sent her home with lumps and bruises. Would your first thought be “well Chris was only 19 years old let’s get that baby some help”…Or would you be 100% in favor of destroying him, his current career and any future earnings?

Two years or Ten years later, my family would still be ready to catch him the streets.

It’s been probably 20 years since Ike last laid a finger on Tina. Yet, it doesn’t change the world’s perception of Ike. Some people learn the lesson and change. But, I can’t blame anyone if they are not ready to forgive and forget what CB did.
Mr.BluPhi

@ I Run New York

The reason I mentioned that the order wasn’t Rihanna idea is because of the order is the topic of the post. And because I know someone who is truly a victim of domestic violence, I wish people would stop clumping them in one category. If Rihanna was in an ongoing violent relationship, then i could see using the psychological break-down that we give women who are victims of domestic voilence. Going of that logic, neither one of them exhibited what could be deemed as “appropriate” behavior following the incident. And if the only reason he apologized was because of the backlash, then did the apology really matter??

And I was sayin that the support is needed over the blacklash.

“Treat a man as he appears to be, and you make him worse. But treat a man as if he were what he potentially could be, and you make him what he should be.”
Mr.BluPhi

@Corporate Queen

The severity of the beat down??? I don’t think we know the severity of the beat down. I mean are we goin off a photo? And do we know the causes of the all the bruises. I mean look, Im not sayin that Chris didn’t deserve to be punish, and Im not saying that the world has to forgive him. Im jus stating how I viewed the situation. But the TRUTH is, we don’t know the TRUTH.

And noooooo…i can’t imagine if it was mother, or sister…because there would be a bias. Hell, my mama could shot a man, and stab his new born son, and if he just spit on her, I would be upset.

Ike and Tina was a completely different story. Again, we’re comparing an ongoing abusive relationship to an incident that happen one night.

The case is over and done with. And I hope both parties have learned something. I support Rihanna, and I support Chris. And I don’t try to convince others to do neither.
I Run New York

“Going of that logic, neither one of them exhibited what could be deemed as “appropriate” behavior following the incident.”

There is no such thing as “appropriate” behavior for a victim. The victim is not to be blamed or scrutinized. They are the victim. Moreover, people recover from being victimized in many different ways. There is no such thing as “appropriate” behavior with regard to a victim.

“And I was sayin that the support is needed over the blacklash. ”

And I’m saying your wrong. “Support” (radio spins, celebrities defending him, awards) did nothing but embolden him. Once the backlash came he changed his tune and behavior real quick.

“If Rihanna was in an ongoing violent relationship, then i could see using the psychological break-down that we give women who are victims of domestic voilence.”

Whether the relationship is ongoing or not victims are often unwilling to press charges, are effected emotionally by the incident,and can suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. As such these decisions are best left to the courts.
trallen75

If I’m not mistaken,Rihanna and her lawyer pleaded with the judge to drop the restraining order that very day. But there plea fell on deaf ears.
http://twitter.com/Jerrica_Lewis Jerrica

Mr.BluPhi: Co-sign

Why do WE have to forgive Chris? If you don’t want to support him don’t. Chris didn’t hit me, so why should I forgive him? That’s just plain stupid. Chris had to ask for forgiveness from 2 people and that was Ri and God.
tintin1979

Chris did his dirt and he’s sorry for what he’s done. He deserves a second chance. I bet you if T.I. buss tiny’s ass, Sandra would be forgiving if Tiny forgave T.I. ass.

Chris has paid his debt to society. His career went down the drain for a while and he deserves to get back to doing what he does best. I want him back on top cause this boy is multi-talented.

You gotta admit Chris was nice with not mentioning what Rihanna did cause we all know she slapped him upside his head that night, there’s no way Chris just started beating her ass when she asked a question, I guarantee you she threw the first blow. I would have if some bi**h was calling my man.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ CorporateQueen

@Corporate Queen

The severity of the beat down??? I don’t think we know the severity of the beat down. I mean are we goin off a photo? And do we know the causes of the all the bruises. I mean look, Im not sayin that Chris didn’t deserve to be punish, and Im not saying that the world has to forgive him. Im jus stating how I viewed the situation. But the TRUTH is, we don’t know the TRUTH.

And noooooo…i can’t imagine if it was mother, or sister…because there would be a bias. Hell, my mama could shot a man, and stab his new born son, and if he just spit on her, I would be upset.

Ike and Tina was a completely different story. Again, we’re comparing an ongoing abusive relationship to an incident that happen one night.

The case is over and done with. And I hope both parties have learned something. I support Rihanna, and I support Chris. And I don’t try to convince others to do neither.

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Yes, all we have is the photo to judge from and Rihanna’s report to the police. None of us were in the car with them…so basically all of our comments are just public opinion.

By the same token human nature leads us to bias…some people want favorable treatment towards Chris because they appreciate his talent…some people side with Rihanna for the same reason. At the end of the day our preference makes us just as biased as if this happened to a girl we love or a girl we hate. Think about it.

I’ve read allegations from friends of both Rihanna and Chris that they had a violent relationship. They stated this was not their first altercation…and obviously if Chris had not took it as far as he did…it wouldn’t have been the last time.

So it is just like Ike and Tina…one day the victim gets fed up and leaves.
speedy12

Wrong again Sandra….. I’ll keep saying it…CB hit Rihanna ONCE THAT NIGHT!!! I DONT SEE YOU BASHING OJ WHO KILLED HIS WIFE–OR CHARLIE SHEEN…..Siddown Sandra with your hate towards CB…Maybe you’re the one who’s been beat and is now bitter. #WrongAgain.
speedy12

PS: Doubt Miss Rose is capable of producing CB’s mugshot…dont hold your breath..Sandra has NOOOO PULL!!!
HoneyBun

I’ve forgiven Chris for the simple fact that I’ve given him the opportunity to prove himself. Its been two years and there hasn’t been any incidents of him putting his hands on a female which makes me believe he’s learned his lesson.
I Run New York

“You gotta admit Chris was nice with not mentioning what Rihanna did cause we all know she slapped him upside his head that night, ”

Actually we don’t “know” that. There is no evidence whatsoever to support that claim.
Daisy

@CorporateQueen It has been my sister before So I know how it is and how it goes. Every situation is different. DV is a serious issue and needs to be addressed. However, I have always felt in general (NOT Chriannagate) that there is a difference if a woman hits or has been hitting a man and a fight (yes I said fight) breaks out and the woman loses to me that is NOT DV. DV is when a man (or woman) is beating on a woman/man just for GP/the sky is blue/she is breathing/he didnt like what she said/wore/cause he/she can etc if you catch my drift. If a woman (again in GENERAL not Chriannagate) hits/abuses a man constanlty and he finally snaps if you will that is not DV to me. I dont think anybody should put their hands on anybody unless defending themselves/children etc. That being said clearly CB didnt deserve a parade in his honor after the incident but I do think the backlash was extreme. Had it been any young white celeb couple it wouldnt have been played out the same in the media. He has moved on all the same so its all good. Some ppl will never forget or forgive and CB knows such but that is why we can all be thankful God has the final say so.

@Sandra Thanks cause bruises or no brusises I am NOSEY and always wanted to see his mugshot.

I agree with whoever said they were to young to be in such a serious relationship, I always felt that way as well.

Sean Bell was a victim again I say. Sad how little an INNOCENT black mans life is worth these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

I hate when people try to defend CB by saying that it was just one incident. That is not how DV usually works.

I firmly believe that was not the first time he beat her azz and if everything hadn’t of been blown out in the open I am almost certain it would not have been his last.

And I also get tired of people saying she hit him first and therefore somehow deserved it. I believe that women can get crazy and physical and that a man has a right to defend himself in those cases.

But unless he was fighting for his life, there was no reason for CB to do that kind of damage. I mean, didn’t he bite her at some point? So I guess Mike Tyson was fighting for his life too instead of fighting like a damn mad dog.
pointhimout

I agree that they’ve both moved on. This restraining order is hurting his business, opportunities, etc. I think the bigger question posed to rhianna is does she feel threatened or that he’d harm her? she has to honestly say no. Lets move forward. It is possible to cross paths and be cordial, or cross paths and pretend the other doesn’t exist. whatever works for you, but yeah, move forward.
RoderickXYZ

Pointhimout, you’re wrong for that gravatar and on a Sunday morning too? LOL
I Run New York

“I hate when people try to defend CB by saying that it was just one incident. That is not how DV usually works.”

Cosign. He also slammed her into a wall once and another time he broke the glass in her car. Pretty dumb assumption that this was the first incident. As you pointed out that is not how DV usually works.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ CorporateQueen

@Daisy
Domestic Violence: abusive behaviors by one or both partners in an intimate relationship such as marriage, dating, family, friends or cohabitation.

I went through DV as a teen. Abuse can affect people in different ways…from the first hit, I hit back…many times I would leave bruises on him as well…one day he smacked me and I bust his head open with a can…but did that mean I was not undergoing abuse? That would be absurdly ignorant to think not.

I didn’t even realize that I was being abused because I was fighting him back. It wasn’t until my family found me unconscious (yep knocked the fluck out) that they took it out of my hands.

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I Run New York says:

As has been discussed, victims of domestic violence often do not know what is in their best interest. That is why these decisions are left in the hands of the court and not a fragile victim who has been brutalized in the worst way and is not thinking rationally.

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@IRNY your statement is so true. _________________________________________

@Daisy…can you give any examples of a man…who was getting physically abused constantly by their woman and never hit her back. Then one day just snapped and gave her the worst beat down of her life. #wheretheydothatat?

I’ve known women that abuse their men…so I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I’m saying that abused men end up just like abused women in domestic violence…they leave after they can’t take another beating.
http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

Nicki did great on SNL last night
http://twitter.com/Jerrica_Lewis Jerrica

How do you know Chris has hit Rihanna before? Who came out and said it? Did she say that? Here we go again with people going off of hearsay but when it’s someone else and the proof is in front of them, they don’t want to believe it. Like I said Chris doesn’t have to answer to any of us on this blog. He asked for forgiveness from the two he needed to and it’s done.
ELove

When it comes to a Female/Male physical confrontation the MALE will never get the benefit of the doubt… That’s ONE DOUBLE STANDARD that will never change for the Vast Majority (Real…)

Doesn’t matter HOW MANY TIMES the Female HITS HIM or the EXTENT of the Damage Done… ONCE the MALE retaliates back (He’s THE ONE At Fault…) That’s Just how the Vast Majority will always see it (Such Is Life…)
http://twitter.com/Jerrica_Lewis Jerrica

ELove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feMJefcB36U kingstonn

it’s amazing how a CB/Rihanna post can bring out the most random people to leave their opinion. instead of getting all riled up about this bullchit like we were in the damn car with them on that night and know firsthand every single detail, why not discuss what’s going on in Egypt right now? just saying.
RoderickXYZ

kingstonn, I agree with you partially.

We as black folk need to expand our horizon on the topics that we address.

OTOH I understand that people like to discuss topics which they are more familiar with like dating and in this case dating gone wrong( domestic violence).

Most Americans epespecially AA’s rarely discuss foriegn affairs because we don’t see those events as directly impacting our lives and foriegn affairs involve complicated histories much of which we don’t know because there is so much shadiness( read CIA, Mossad involvement) that has occurred in the past and has shaped the events of the present.

I am a political junkie and I understand that there is little America can do to influence the happenings in Egypt because it looks like a FUBAR regardless as to whether Mubarak stays in power or is overthrown.

I’m sure Obama wishes that he had never thought about running for Prez.
FABULOSALAKER

GOOD MORNING @TOPIC HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND AWARD SHOWS IT’S NOT FAIR FOR HIM…:shrug:
Boogie

Good Morning Fam!!
His_Mommy623

sup er’one?? s n chit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feMJefcB36U kingstonn

@ roderick

I agree. but still… 600 comments about someone’s boob job, when an Obama post or some other type of public affair wilk have like 50 comments. eh.

@ laker
hey mamas! my dallas trip backfired.
His_Mommy623

Kingstonn! Laker!…I’m so sheepy! someone hold mee

Hey Boogie Woogie oogie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

Morning peoples.

And a special good morning to Shankalicious. :hugs:
FABULOSALAKER

@kingston what happen???
@his hey gorgeouss!! what’s matter babes??
His_Mommy623

@YSO

*gets that new name tatted on my bewb*
His_Mommy623

@Laker, I did NOT fall asleep til like 4..i had a geigh case of insomnia last night…and I had 2 get up at 6:30…a bish is is exhaustedddd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

@LAKER

Basically, frome what I’ve Googled, there is political unrest there in Egypt because they are taking to the streets in protest of there current president and trying to get him kicked out of office.

It’s getting so dangerous that Americans are being flown out of Egypt as we type.

There also seems to be an issue on where the White House stands on this. There have been some conflicting statements and very carefully worded responses to what’s going on there now.
FABULOSALAKER

@his **shimies the girls for his** HERE BEW LAY ON THESE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

(damn typos)
FABULOSALAKER

@YSO WELL DANG!! PRESIDENT IN SOME CHIT!!
PAGESINADIARY

he aint thinking about her, and if they (her side) dont let up on the order i think it will be selfish, let him have his life back and attend awards show and accept his own award. remember, she hit him too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

Good Morning Fam!

Everyone have a good weekends..?

Me and Dimpz watched some bad ass kidz get FLUCKED UP dis weekend…we also learned the that double lamb skin condoms are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

@LAKER

I’m sure when (if) Sandra posts today she will find a way to blame Obama. She always does.
His_Mommy623

@Yso, I’m glancing at the news while I’m working and chit is REAL over in Egypt…

@Laker, *lays my headddddd on yo pillowsss* (in Lloyds voice)
FABULOSALAKER

@ACE RANDOMS CHIT MY WEEKND WAS GOOD FAM FIXING ON MY DANG ESCAPE WHY DID I LEARN SOME MECHANIC CHIT?? HOW WAS UR’S AND DIMPZ WEEKND??
His_Mommy623

@Ace random aren’t we? lmao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

@Ace

Really?…

Are you just gonna leave up with a sip of y’alls tea or are we gonna get the whole cup?
FABULOSALAKER

@YSO U AINT LYING OBAMA PROLLY HAD A HAND IN IT SANDRA AND HER CWAZYY CHIT IN 4…3…2…..
bnatural

Morning all! It’s good to be alive!

The protesters in Egypt are not playing. The President has been in rule for 30 years and they are tired of it. Can you imagine being in a country with a dictator like that?

~As for this post….um…if Rihanna and her attorney do not see a problem with lifting the restraining order than who are we to speak ill against it? It has been almost 2 years since that hideous event happened! Let’s move on from it. I’m sure the parties involved have!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

@YsO

I just turned on the Pot…i’ll let my baby distribute the tea…
StillASassyOne

G’mornin everyone!

Kingston- what were you doing up at 4 AM girl?! And you are so right….on any urban entertainment site, a twitter feud will garner 100000000000000+ hits, one about a missing Black girl, goreign policy or hell, domestic policy- less than 50, guaranteed.
StillASassyOne

*foreign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ YSoSerious

@Ace

That’s why I like you. You’re smart.

(gets my ready for MzD’s weekend tea)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKKxPtP6XjQ renegadesince1985

Kingstonn says: it’s amazing how a CB/Rihanna post can bring out the most random people to leave their opinion. instead of getting all riled up about this bullchit like we were in the damn car with them on that night and know firsthand every single detail, why not discuss what’s going on in Egypt right now? just saying.

I have a friend out in Egypt right now…he’s from there though so he’s not going anywhere. He says they are tired of Mubarak and his US backed dictatorship. Although it is sad that it had to come to all this…I think it’s awesome that the people of Egypt have come together for such a cause. Christians, Jews and Muslims all united. Even some of the military have taken off their uniforms and joined the protesters.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ CorporateQueen

Interesting…it was inappropriate to debate the TOPIC of the post…when we really should have been discussing FOREIGN AFFAIRS?

The protests continue to rage on in Egypt…yet everyone has moved on to more fun topics in the next post. Do I understand correctly? Dosmestic Violence wasn’t important enough to stay on topic but RHOA’s is.

Oh I get it now.
SexxxyDimeDiva

There is NO sin greater than the other in God’s eyes! So if He can forgive our tresspasses, why is it so hard for us to forgive the tresspasses of others! He made a mistake, he admitted his mistakes and you people are still condeming him and its been almost 2 yrs! People (including you Sandra), sweep in front of your own door, I’m sure you’ll find some trash to pick up! Thank God that He is everything He is and nothing like man or we all would be in trouble!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrKEZYUJ6Q Ace

It’ll ok CHB How are you?
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ CorporateQueen

@Ace… :hugs: What’s up homey? I’m feeling a bit edgy these days. I appreciated you sharing your story, though. One time was all it took for you. You made a mistake when you were younger and learned the lesson from it.

I hope someone in that situation or anything similiar gained something from what was discussed in the post.

Bottom line Chris & Rhi both will be fine…if not they have plenty of money for therapy, a team of handlers, and fans…

Fans that would still support them even if Chris or Ri-Ri jumped into the fan’s car and beat, bite, kicked, punched THEM. (As long as it was an isolated incident provoked by unexpected rage–LOL)
Danielle

This Chris and Rihanna situation is so old and tired. Tired of hearing about it.