Bishop Eddie Long sued in investment scam

Sandra Rose October 20, 2011

Ten New Birth Baptist Church parishioners lost more than a million dollars after investing in a company endorsed by Bishop Eddie Long, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday in DeKalb County state court.

The suit charges that in October 2009, Bishop Long held a 3-day investment seminar at which he introduced City Capital Corporation’s then-CEO, Ephren Taylor to his congregation. Church members were encouraged to invest their hard-earned cash in the company, attorney Jason Doss told the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

“I am responsible for everyone I bring before you and what they say,” Long said at the seminar, according to the lawsuit. “The gentleman that I am going to bring before you is an ordained minster. That gives me great pride to bring him for you.”

Long was probably aware of the impending litigation when he uploaded a video to YouTube on Feb. 2, 2011 pleading with the investment company to “do what’s right” and return the invested money with interest.

He claimed neither he nor the church benefited financially from City Capitol Corporation.

But both the church and Long were compensated for their roles in soliciting the investments, the lawsuit contends.

The suit alleges that Taylor’s company was failing when he persuaded Long to help him bilk church members. Co-counsel Quinton Seay said the plaintiffs lost their life savings to the scam.

“It’s a terrible thing, especially when you suffer a loss like that from your church and your pastor,” Seay said late Wednesday. “A lot of them have been members at New Birth Baptist for a very long time. They were given some extremely bad advice.”

The investment scam lawsuit is the latest in a series of legal action taken against the embattled preacher who earlier this year settled a lawsuit filed by 5 of his former parishioners for sexual misconduct.

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

This rottweiler head azz nigga can’t catch a break can he???
That’s what the hell he get for basically doing all his dirty deeds in the name of The Lord!
Yardgirl

Not surprised at all. This man is rotten to the core. Damn teef (and I don’t mean teeth)
ohpretty1

I was wondering when this would make it to court. The Longfellows fiasco overshadowed this.

BUT ain’t no way in hell my pastor would be telling me who to invest my money with DURING CHURCH and I listen. Those folks’ greed got them into that situation. Can’t blame Edna for everything.
lady_cn

I cringe at the sight of this man and the mention of his name.
ohpretty1

I know I’m nonchalant but do your due diligence when it pertains to your money (investments, buying homes). Don’t be so quick to turn over your hard earned money just because some dude who drives a Bentley, etc presents him to you. Sheep, I tell you.
Creamychic

And in the word’s of the Most High, GOD is angry with the wicked everyday. the sad part about it is, he still growing in members,
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Karma is a biatch to ya when you cross her.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Creamychic says:

And in the word’s of the Most High, GOD is angry with the wicked everyday. the sad part about it is, he still growing in members,
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And most of the wicked are the ones that are suppose to be representing HIM to the most! SO CALLED CHRISTIANS, I tell ya!
lady_cn

ohpretty1 says:

BUT ain’t no way in hell my pastor would be telling me who to invest my money with DURING CHURCH and I listen. Those folks’ greed got them into that situation. Can’t blame Edna for everything.

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I don’t agree with what he did as far as the boys or approaching the congregation in regards to an investment but these people had to know that their investment was not a sure thing. It was an investment and sometimes they don’t work out.
BigCityGirl

All I can do is SMH at this guy…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

For some reason I don’t feel sorry for these folks…stop following these false prophets who are nothing more than flesh and blood themselves…they are not divine!
Ms.kaylamomma

WOW!! Do people STILL give money to this man and his “church”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfDHCu6MuQ LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

“The gentleman that I am going to bring before you is an ordained minster. That gives me great pride to bring him for you.”
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“This man is also into boys and as a matter of fact, we’ve be “into” boys together, for long periods of time. It gives me pride to know we have so much in common, please overlook is his sexual deviance as you have mine”
NaijaGal

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. If you didn’t learn from Enron then you should have learned from Maddof so yeah can’t say I feel sorry at all. You place all your trust and faith in man and he will surely disappoint
FoxE

Crazy how things are turning out for Long huh? Out of all his members only 10 filed a lawsuit or lost money on an INVESTMENT?

Just cuz it sounds good doesn’t mean you are gonna get an ROI.. SMH.. people need to realize you take a huge gamble when investing..(unless u got slammed)

**Disclaimer I do not support Long’s extra curricular activities***
NaijaGal

@Luscious you’re slaying me
Creamychic

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Creamychic says:

And in the word’s of the Most High, GOD is angry with the wicked everyday. the sad part about it is, he still growing in members,
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And most of the wicked are the ones that are suppose to be representing HIM to the most! SO CALLED CHRISTIANS, I tell ya!

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soon as they can find where GOD called himself a christian, maybe that will help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

And in my honest opinion, these types of “seminars” shouldn’t even be held within the church walls… Investments are nothing but a legalized form of gambling and you always take a RISK when you invest. This man worshiped and STILL worships money…there’s a MAJOR problem when your pastor is filthy fcking rich and flashy…in my faith lay people take the oath of poverty. Sure, no faith is perfect, but I really LOATHE flashy and braggadocios preachers!
AndThenIHitMyDougie

Okay….so for ALL of the idiots that invested their life savings with Longfellows, Inc. thinking it would be a sure shot because they would basically be investing with “the Lord.” Allow me to offer a short lesson in the NORMAL world

IN THE NORMAL WORLD….

You listen to a stockbroker concerning STOCKS.
You heed an investment banker regarding INVESTMENTS.
You seek a pastor/minister/reverend regarding GOD.
You contact an accountant regarding MONEY.
You find a lawyer regarding the LAW.
You look inward for COMMON SENSE.

What these “plaintiffs” need to do is figure out where two or more of the above were sought from ONE person instead of several with specialized experience in each field and then they’ll find out where their money went…and why they shouldn’t be surprised it did not come back. I implore them to start with the last one.

‘Tis all.
iheart405

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

This rottweiler head azz nigga can’t catch a break can he???
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Fkn You are killing me today His head is big than a mug tho
Anna

Ms.kaylamomma says:

WOW!! Do people STILL give money to this man and his “church”?

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Has he stepped down yet? Do ppl still attend?
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Creamy – <—– my sippin' my hot cocoa w/you!

@ Naija

Iiiiiii – Have never been so much
In love – before
What a difference
That true made in my life
So right
AndThenIHitMyDougie

@Anna
They say God looks after children and fools…and plenty of BOTH still attend Eddie Long’s church sooo….
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ iheart – IONO why i’m on a roll today! This nigga got a straigh rottweiler head! I mean, I would’ve said pit head BUT, it’s a little more astromonical in size than a pit….well, maybe a bluenose pit would fit!
chubbswifey

Well dang! Bishop just can’t get right! I think it’s time for him to go home and focus on getting himself right. It’s hard leading a flock when you obviously need guidance.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Dougie –

How you be????
AndThenIHitMyDougie

@Tatted (CV)

I’m great!!! And you, beautiful?
Creamychic

Anna says:

Ms.kaylamomma says:

WOW!! Do people STILL give money to this man and his “church”?

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Has he stepped down yet? Do ppl still attend?
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yes, and I just look at them, friends and family still sit there they said they gonna follow their pastor,
http://www.philly.com/ Jay Bee

Leave the politics out of the Church….
ohpretty1

@ Dougie – I swear I was about to go there (#10). I bet these same people have never sat in an accountant’s office. Probably have that ‘attitude’ that some person can’t tell me what to do with my money, etc. Some things shouldn’t be allowed to go to court I tell ya.
GAGIRL87

God don’t like ugly, karma is a beast & trust God’s not through with Eddie yet
prynsexxx

He running out of rocks to throw ain’t he?
Ms. Everything

Pastors should not be involved in the financial investment dealings of their parishioners… period. He should have known that anyone he brought before the church would get heavy support from the congregation and by 2009 he knew that banks/financial institutions and the stock market in general were failing and that any financial investment advice should not be coming from him except where it’s directly pertaining to what he’s preaching. Even if he isn’t guilty into helping con his churchmembers, he’s guilty of just plain stupidity. Not to mention that he should be smart enough to know that a church can not (and should never) accept money in lieu of endorsing something like this. He needs to step down, the church needs to force him to step down because this man is making dumb decision after dumb decision while continuing to play the anointed above sin card. I know someone who goes to his church and I shake my head every Sunday when she posts pictures of herself at New Birth or excerpts from the sermons.

Greed and stupidity will bring you down every fvcking time…. idiot
ohpretty1

*#19

Eddie won’t step down because there is no deacon’s board (read no one to make him) at that church.
iheart405

@ tatted, You are on a roll but I’m lovin it Keep em coming
prynsexxx

…he only had 5 to begin with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

I was done with I heard there was an ATM in the lobby of the church…there is something extremely WRONG with that picture!

@GAGIRL and ohpretty
Ty

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

This rottweiler head azz nigga can’t catch a break can he???
That’s what the hell he get for basically doing all his dirty deeds in the name of The Lord!
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Ditto. He is shady az hell.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Dougie – @ the CV!

I’m great. I’m always great! Still employed, still healthy, still loved & still in love! You can’t ask for anything more than that!
MsOnederful

FeFe says:

For some reason I don’t feel sorry for these folks…stop following these false prophets who are nothing more than flesh and blood themselves…they are not divine!

Fe and #19 good lesson. These church folks need to go to church for CHURCH. Not advice on how to ‘lose’ hard earned money!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfDHCu6MuQ LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

LOVESUCKS!!!
#salty
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ iheart & Ty – Iono how these ppl fell prey to his azz. One good look @ the domepiece, I would rather fugged w/Creflo “Dollah” first!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Brown –

YOU MAKE ME
NaijaGal

@Tatted

Share my world
Don’t you leave
promise I’ll be here so baby don’t you have no fear
…to be with you is like paradise
everything would be so nice, so right, the joy you bring…

boothang, missed you around these parts
Creamychic

Jay Bee says:

Leave the politics out of the Church….
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then there will be no church, the moment you file a 501 C-3 you now become a church of the world and not of GOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@MsOne

The problem with this type of church culture is that folks look to their pastors and congregation as guidance for every avenue in their life… :stop: doing that folks! Look to the most HIGH for guidance, that’s IT, that’s ALL….
Ms.kaylamomma

Creamychic says:

Anna says:

Ms.kaylamomma says:

WOW!! Do people STILL give money to this man and his “church”?

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Has he stepped down yet? Do ppl still attend?
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yes, and I just look at them, friends and family still sit there they said they gonna follow their pastor,

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Following the pastor? I thought the point of going to church was to follow God? SMH
Ty

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

@ iheart & Ty – Iono how these ppl fell prey to his azz. One good look @ the domepiece, I would rather fugged w/Creflo “Dollah” first!
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< One look at that damn hair piece
NaijaGal

@FeFe people clown my religion all day (Catholic) but at the end of the day with my church my priest is not using the money to drive a bently or get a private jet, nor does he have million dollar mansions…but I digress b/c like you said, no religion is perfect
ohpretty1

@ Fefe and all.
iheart405

FeFe says:

I was done with I heard there was an ATM in the lobby of the church…there is something extremely WRONG with that picture!

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I went to a church like that a few times and I was like
They was askin for my SSN on the offering envelope and I was like oh hail naw
Ty

@ Tatted…he kind of covered it in my gravi though
candibfly

and the lawsuits just keep rolling in

in other news, the word of the day is cosmogony
Mamacita

I’m disgusted by his sexual misconduct but I fial to see how them losing money in and INVESMENT is his fault. Even if he did bring the company before the people he didn’t force them to invest. If they were stupid enough to invest everything without looking at all the info and taking ALL outcomes into consideration then too bad for them.
Ms.kaylamomma

There was a church here that I heard asked people for their tax forms. Really? Has it gotten to the point where only folks that make a certain amount can join the church.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

Good morning ladies!
candibfly

some pastor from baltimore (jamal somebody) visited our church in houston i swear he spent an hour on the offering part, askin folks for a specific amount and not stopping until a certain amount of folks had given the requested amount. his actual sermon was good but when he did that it was an absolute turn off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Naija

I’m Catholic too! That’s why I put my disclaimer in there about not all faiths being perfect… :hugs: fellow sistah!
lgriff

This guy….
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Just checked out the trailer (by referral) of Love & Hip Hop (Season 2)!
All I got to say is Christie was “swangin’ them thangs!”
Ty

Ms.kaylamomma says:

There was a church here that I heard asked people for their tax forms. Really? Has it gotten to the point where only folks that make a certain amount can join the church.
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No they do that to ensure that you are tithing correctly. You are supposed to tithe 10% of your gross income. However the church can’t enforce that. If you don’t pay your tithes thats between you and the higher ups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Dimpz

I actually know churches where you can pay tithes online…on one hand you can call it “new age” on another hand it’s kind of questionable…
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Naija & Fe – I grew up Catholic (hence being half hispanic) and it’s not the religion for me but I respect those who it is for!

@ Naija – You need to come w/another song, mami! That was the LAST song you sang to me, just this time you sang the chorus!

#paysattention
Creamychic

Religions were made up by man, they were all made to fit that person agenda at the time, tisdale, martin luthern, giddeons, etc. as of know you buy the NIV bibles , search why this bible was created, no it was not for understaning better, they omitted scriptures, and letters, and the words they used in the KJV bible differ from the ASNIV, NIV etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Ty

No they do that to ensure that you are tithing correctly. You are supposed to tithe 10% of your gross income. However the church can’t enforce that. If you don’t pay your tithes thats between you and the higher ups.
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My bff goes to a church like that and she justifies it by saying that you should be tithing so much and if you aren’t then the church can help you figure out why your money isn’t right…

I’m sorry, but that is just too intrusive for me!
ohpretty1

@candi – When I was in New Orleans, ‘Bishop’ Paul Morton gave a ‘sermon’ like that one Sunday. He said he wasn’t preaching until people had pledged a certain amount of money so that he could get a jet. Said that traveling commercial was a pain with all of his commitments. Silly me, I thought he was playing. He didn’t preach that Sunday either. One man pledged 100K.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfDHCu6MuQ LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

Candi
was it Jamal Bryant?
I think that’s the one that had a baby with his mistress or somethin like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Creamy

you are correct…
Creamychic

candibfly says:

some pastor from baltimore (jamal somebody) visited our church in houston i swear he spent an hour on the offering part, askin folks for a specific amount and not stopping until a certain amount of folks had given the requested amount. his actual sermon was good but when he did that it was an absolute turn off
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jamal bryant ( child molestor)
Ms.kaylamomma

@Ty So that’s normal? WOW! Church has changed from when I was growing up.

@Fefe my church has that online tithe payment option. I still write out the envelopes though.
Ms. YaYa

@ candi I attended a church and the whole sermon was on giving and becoming a tither. It was a huge turn off, the pastor was practically bullying the congregation into giving more than they could give.
candibfly

ohpretty

wow. i would have stuck my index finger up and walked on out of there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Tatted

My mom’s whole side of the family is strict Catholic. I went to Catholic schools, had a big Catholic wedding (hubby is Catholic too), and alladat. I totally get why folks say it isn’t for them, but I always felt at home there…
Creamychic

Ty says:

Ms.kaylamomma says:

There was a church here that I heard asked people for their tax forms. Really? Has it gotten to the point where only folks that make a certain amount can join the church.
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No they do that to ensure that you are tithing correctly. You are supposed to tithe 10% of your gross income. However the church can’t enforce that. If you don’t pay your tithes thats between you and the higher ups
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ummm that is not biblical tithing 10% of your gross income
https://twitter.com/Mizz_Dallas mizzdallas

candibfly says:

some pastor from baltimore (jamal somebody) visited our church in houston i swear he spent an hour on the offering part, askin folks for a specific amount and not stopping until a certain amount of folks had given the requested amount. his actual sermon was good but when he did that it was an absolute turn off

it was pastor jamal bryant, I actually like his preaching too, but when they start trying to collect offerings every 2.5 seconds thats when I get annoyed and ready to leave
candibfly

@chic

yeah that’s the last name. he just seems shady to me
candibfly

everyone knows who i’m talking about
https://twitter.com/Mizz_Dallas mizzdallas

Creamychic says:

candibfly says:

some pastor from baltimore (jamal somebody) visited our church in houston i swear he spent an hour on the offering part, askin folks for a specific amount and not stopping until a certain amount of folks had given the requested amount. his actual sermon was good but when he did that it was an absolute turn off
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jamal bryant ( child molestor)

please spill the tea???
Ty

Creamychic says:

Religions were made up by man, they were all made to fit that person agenda at the time, tisdale, martin luthern, giddeons, etc. as of know you buy the NIV bibles , search why this bible was created, no it was not for understaning better, they omitted scriptures, and letters, and the words they used in the KJV bible differ from the ASNIV, NIV etc.
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Its used to control the masses. The original is in Hebrew and there are several books missing (purposely) but I will not touch the Catholic comments
NaijaGal

@Tatted

I gave you all the love I got
I gave you more than I could give
I gave you love
I gave you all that I have inside
And you took my love
You took my love

I keep crying
I keep trying for you
There’s nothing like you and I baby

This is no ordinary love
No ordinary Love
This is no ordinary love
No ordinary Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Creamy

again…that tithing 10% of your gross income is GROSSLY misunderstood…
deedeegirl

Long can’t stay out of trouble. However, an investment is a risk. It’s a risk you accept when you invest money, don’t see how you can sue for damages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfDHCu6MuQ LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

Jamal was on JoJo and K-Ci’s show and for some reason I got the urge to laugh every time I saw him, maybe it was his attempt at trying to dress young and hip
Crickett

Sounds like Atlanta born President wanna be- Hermain Cain. He brags about being rich to his congregation and blames them for not being prosperous- then signs them up for his 666 plan.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

FeFe says:

@Tatted

My mom’s whole side of the family is strict Catholic. I went to Catholic schools, had a big Catholic wedding (hubby is Catholic too), and alladat. I totally get why folks say it isn’t for them, but I always felt at home there…
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I understand where you come from. My grandfather is the forced everyone to go. As soon as he passed away, basically, people started falling off. He died before I was born and my mom (who was 17 when she had me) and my grandmother and a few other aunts attended and then by the time I was 10, BAM they dipped!
Ty

Ms.kaylamomma says:

@Ty So that’s normal? WOW! Church has changed from when I was growing up.
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Its common in Mega Churches like Long’s and the others
Ms.kaylamomma

candibfly says:

@chic

yeah that’s the last name. he just seems shady to me

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Me too! As well as Creflo Dollar. I hate to say this and I know I may get backlash from it but there is something about that Joel Osteen guy that I can’t put my finger on.

I like TD Jakes though.

Jamal Bryant? Hmmmm
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Naija –

THANK YOU!
NaijaGal

@Creamy although I am proud of my religion I’ve always wondered where the so called 10% requirement comes from…and I don’t think money is the only way to tithe…you can give your time and volunteer, help clean the church, etc…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Ty

Express yourself hon! I’ve heard the Catholic bashing my ENTIRE life…I actually understand it and get it…but I always say that folks should be where they feel most comfortable…
Ty

Creamychic says:

Ty says:

Ms.kaylamomma says:

There was a church here that I heard asked people for their tax forms. Really? Has it gotten to the point where only folks that make a certain amount can join the church.
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No they do that to ensure that you are tithing correctly. You are supposed to tithe 10% of your gross income. However the church can’t enforce that. If you don’t pay your tithes thats between you and the higher ups
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ummm that is not biblical tithing 10% of your gross income
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Nope its not
NaijaGal

@Tatted, I guess that Mary song was still in my system…it will never happen again
ohpretty1

That was my last time at that church. The Sunday before that, he said that he needed a new home. He and his family had outgrown the current one. Mind you it was a mini manse and his kids were grown. He got his plane and the new mansion (really a monstrosity) and Katrina wiped that bad boy out. He also had Longfellow problem.
Creamychic

candibfly says:

@chic

yeah that’s the last name. he just seems shady to me

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Me too! As well as Creflo Dollar. I hate to say this and I know I may get backlash from it but there is something about that Joel Osteen guy that I can’t put my finger on.

I like TD Jakes though.

Jamal Bryant? Hmmmm
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joel osteen False Prophet

creflo Dollar False Prophet

T.D jakes False prophet. give me some more names
NaijaGal

@Ms.Kay, I see Joel as more of a motivational speaker, I swear everytime I watch him I leave smiling b/c in his world, there’s never a bad day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

I always liked watching Joel Osteen and I used to love me some Joyce Meyer…but there is definitely SOMETHING I can’t put my finger on about those folks…I like Rick Warren too, but folks drag him through the MUD!
NaijaGal

@ohpretty I def feel you…I like Morton’s singing and that’s about it but he def missed me with the whole private jet thing
Ty

FeFe says:

@Ty

Express yourself hon! I’ve heard the Catholic bashing my ENTIRE life…I actually understand it and get it…but I always say that folks should be where they feel most comfortable…
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Religion is a “very” sensitive subject FeFe but the truth behind the Catholic church would make your head spin.
caligirl

77 mizzdallas says:

Creamychic says:

candibfly says:

some pastor from baltimore (jamal somebody) visited our church in houston i swear he spent an hour on the offering part, askin folks for a specific amount and not stopping until a certain amount of folks had given the requested amount. his actual sermon was good but when he did that it was an absolute turn off
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jamal bryant ( child molestor)

please spill the tea???
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Jamal Bryant
Has a mega church called?
Empowerment Temple – Baltimore, MD
You have to arrive early; most of his followers are WOMEN

Jamal is charismatic, which you probably witnessed! He attended Morehouse and Duke. He was previously married to a very attractive woman. He cheating on here with a young woman in the church and she became pregnant. Most recently he was Omarisa (msp) Spiritual Advisor. He loves the ladies you will hear of no little boys with this man.
Creamychic

NaijaGal says:

@Creamy although I am proud of my religion I’ve always wondered where the so called 10% requirement comes from…and I don’t think money is the only way to tithe…you can give your time and volunteer, help clean the church, etc…

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Most false prophet preach Malachi 3 as a reason to take folks money, that scripture is misunderstood to the average person, it was all about food, spices etc, never money
NaijaGal

@FeFe I forgot about Joyce…I enjoy her too sometimes but I think when 20/20 did an investigation she refused to show them her financial books
Ms.kaylamomma

NaijaGal says:

@Ms.Kay, I see Joel as more of a motivational speaker, I swear everytime I watch him I leave smiling b/c in his world, there’s never a bad day

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So true!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfDHCu6MuQ LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

My uncle is a bishop (I have my own issues with him) anyway he said TD Jakes wasnt nothin but an ugly dressed up niccah from the country
NaijaGal

@Creamy yeah but as we know people will take a verse out of the “bible” and twist it to fit their agenda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Ty

Yes, I know, and I’ve heard it…when I was in college a lot of my friends would pull me in a corner and have a session with me revealing stuff about the Catholic church and its origins. My affiliation with it though, has more to do with family history, and my growing up, it was an integral part of who I am…but the thing is that I NEVER force anyone to agree with that or follow it themselves…

and yes, I agree that religion is a sensitive subject for sure…the history of Christianity, Islam, and the fights during the Crusades was a bloodbath in itself…
Creamychic

FeFe says:

I always liked watching Joel Osteen and I used to love me some Joyce Meyer…but there is definitely SOMETHING I can’t put my finger on about those folks…I like Rick Warren too, but folks drag him through the MUD!

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I will say this A bishop must be the HUSBAND of one WIFE, (joyce meyer) not qualified, GOD give specific instructions to the church, even the deacon has to be qualified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfDHCu6MuQ LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

Creamy
this church i went to for a couple of years did that scripture every sunday
“I am the lord, I’ve changed not etc
“bring ye all the tithes into the store house……
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I think their bldg fund lasted about 15 yrs……….
Ms.kaylamomma

I think tithes are a touchy subject. I don’t think Jesus would have wanted you to give up your light bill money to pay your tithes.
caligirl

Ms.kaylamomma says:

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So true!!!
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I tool like Joel and Victoria. Especially his daily inspirations. My boo, doesn’t like him says he blinks too much
Mamacita

“Most false prophet preach Malachi 3 as a reason to take folks money, that scripture is misunderstood to the average person, it was all about food, spices etc, never money”

@Creamy Yeah that scripture was about food, spices, etc. because that was a system of bater. Back in the day there weren’t banks and atms etc. so people exchanged goods for services. Today’s system is different which is why its been converted to money.

You don’t walk into a store and pay for your merchandise with food and spices do you? Food and spices don’t keep the lights on in your house do they?
Ms.kaylamomma

LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS says:

My uncle is a bishop (I have my own issues with him) anyway he said TD Jakes wasnt nothin but an ugly dressed up niccah from the country

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He is unfortunate in the face but I like his preachings.
NaijaGal

@Ms. Kay say that again…I was watching “Black in America” on CNN last year I believe and this guy was unemployed and was still tithing…ummm sir I’m sure the Lord u/s that you’ve got a mortgage and other bills to attend to but whatever floats his boat I guess
Creamychic

LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS says:

Creamy
this church i went to for a couple of years did that scripture every sunday
“I am the lord, I’ve changed not etc
“bring ye all the tithes into the store house……
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I think their bldg fund lasted about 15 yrs……….

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If you go to another church that preach Malachi as a reason to give you his money RUN bew RUN, False prophet, if they are selling you stuff in the temple RUN, they are making a mochery of GOD WORD, and those who mock his word , will be damned, Save yourself from this wicked nation, the blind lead the blind they both will fall in the ditch .
NaijaGal

I think a lot of pastors are like politicians…they come in with the best of intentions but then get caught up in the foolishness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Luscious

I always thought he resembled a walrus…
Ms.kaylamomma

What??!!! @ Caligirl That’s when you know you are paying too much attention to the man and not the word!!!
Ty

@ FeFe I agree and my story is similar except I was raised in the Baptist Church but they are just as scandalous
MzTisch

I don’t knock anyone’s religion….

I’m just annoyed by those who try to force their religion upon you. I went to one of my brother’s many churches one year and I got emotional during one of the musical selections (I always be all weeping listening to Gospel). Well, I guess at this time it was part of the “program” for people to fall out. One of the usher’s came up to me and led me to the front of the church. This heffa was trying to push me down on the ground to participate in the “show”. At that point, I was done with that church. If I feel it, and pass out on my own…that’s one thing. But, when that heffa literally was on my shoulders trying to MAKE me collapse….I was disgusted.
Creamychic

caligirl says:

Ms.kaylamomma says:

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So true!!!
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I tool like Joel and Victoria. Especially his daily inspirations. My boo, doesn’t like him says he blinks too much
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he blinks like that cause he cant believe how stupid his members are for following him and not the word
caligirl

Where is redemption? 5. 4. 3 . 2 .1

Malachi 3:8

“Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How do we rob you?’ “In tithes and offerings.

@ Ms.kaylamomma
I would be willing to pay someone else’s light bill than give it to a church. This of course is within reason, if the person is not blowing there money on shoes and clothes and they had a rough “season” I often give money to single women with children at church rather than putting in the plate. Just makes more sense to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

Creamy says:

he blinks like that cause he cant believe how stupid his members are for following him and not the word
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have you seen ‘The Last Exorcism’…that movie tripped me out…
TwinMom

Rev. Ike Jr. (google his story)
NaijaGal

@MzTisch generally Catholics don’t start dancing and falling out so imagine my surprise when I went to a Baptist church with a friend and all of a sudden they were up running and one person was FOAMING at the mouth with her eyes bugged out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

This small Baptist church I used to attend in college used that Malachi verse EVERY SINGLE Sunday!
Ms.kaylamomma

@Naija I was young at the time. I know this old lady that lived next door to us, she had to spend a few nights at our house because they cut her lights off. When I sat next to her in the church that next Sunday, I saw that she tithe $300 to the church. I was young so I asked her “why did you tithe that much when you don’t have any lights”. She said ‘that’s what God told her to do.’ I was confused!!!

I think some people are confused about tithes and He certainly does not work that way.
NaijaGal

@TwinMom the fact his name is “Ike Jr.” lets me know I don’t want to google
MzTisch

NaijaGal says:

@MzTisch generally Catholics don’t start dancing and falling out so imagine my surprise when I went to a Baptist church with a friend and all of a sudden they were up running and one person was FOAMING at the mouth with her eyes bugged out

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They were doing that too!!!! I was like, “Why is this fool slobbing and snotting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@MzTisch

My father’s side of the family is Pentacostal/COGIC (imagine the household I grew up in) …so I’m used to that “show” that is put on for the congregation..I could never get with it, yes…I’ve gotten emotional and filled with the spirit before, but running around and talking in tongues just is not necessary for me to express my love for God…
https://twitter.com/Mizz_Dallas mizzdallas

77 mizzdallas says:

Creamychic says:

candibfly says:

some pastor from baltimore (jamal somebody) visited our church in houston i swear he spent an hour on the offering part, askin folks for a specific amount and not stopping until a certain amount of folks had given the requested amount. his actual sermon was good but when he did that it was an absolute turn off
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jamal bryant ( child molestor)

please spill the tea???
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Jamal Bryant
Has a mega church called?
Empowerment Temple – Baltimore, MD
You have to arrive early; most of his followers are WOMEN

Jamal is charismatic, which you probably witnessed! He attended Morehouse and Duke. He was previously married to a very attractive woman. He cheating on here with a young woman in the church and she became pregnant. Most recently he was Omarisa (msp) Spiritual Advisor. He loves the ladies you will hear of no little boys with this man.

ok thanks! I knew about him cheating but I didnot know he had a child with the girl…
Ms.kaylamomma

@caligirl I think 10% can go to your own personal charities, not just the church.
Creamychic

Mamacita says:

“Most false prophet preach Malachi 3 as a reason to take folks money, that scripture is misunderstood to the average person, it was all about food, spices etc, never money”

@Creamy Yeah that scripture was about food, spices, etc. because that was a system of bater. Back in the day there weren’t banks and atms etc. so people exchanged goods for services. Today’s system is different which is why its been converted to money.

You don’t walk into a store and pay for your merchandise with food and spices do you? Food and spices don’t keep the lights on in your house do they?

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this is the thing, you cannot change what it was to fit another agenda, it was for food and spices, that is what it is, GOD word never changed its the people that change the word, and dont get me wrong If you put money in your church that is fine the problem is it was not to be misused by the preacher, you can give but give freely, but hear again GOD never told these folks to go build these 50 million dollar temples and expect the back of the people to foot the bill, and make him rich, these folks are an abomnation in GO eyes. but use wise judgement when it comes to your soul. the DEVIL got many tricks, and besides, the Money thing Do you want me to go into that as well, and break it down.
MzTisch

FeFe says:

@MzTisch

My father’s side of the family is Pentacostal/COGIC (imagine the household I grew up in) …so I’m used to that “show” that is put on for the congregation..I could never get with it, yes…I’ve gotten emotional and filled with the spirit before, but running around and talking in tongues just is not necessary for me to express my love for God…
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Right! I was like…Oh, no! Will not be coming back to this church…….
I just want a church home where I don’t feel PRESSURED. Someplace cool and relaxed. With that I would glady attend to get the word. But, every church I’ve ever visited turned me off and I never return.

Also, is it customary for guests of a church to add to the collection plate (that the seem to pass around 2-3 times a service)?

In regards to this: Whenever I visit a church I have two dollars and two dollars only for the collection plate.
caligirl

@FeFe – Did you see THE RITE. That was based off a true story about a Catholic Priest.

I’m down for whatever you down for except VOODOO and WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL. If it you pray to a slice of bread and you not hurting nobody, then you and your bread have it.

@Creamy I can’t stop laughing…
yvonne79

Morning all….performing a drive, so forgive me if I don’t speak back.

Regarding these people who were “swindled”, I don’t feel sorry for them at all. This is YOUR money, why not take the time a research the company you’re investing in? This corporation took you for millions of dollars, instead of placing blame on yourself for participating in unwise business transactions,you want to blame the Pastor who put you on? Sounds incredibly dumb to me…….it is what it is…..
http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

Gee whiz malloid. It just never ends with this character. I wonder if he gave the money he earned for setting them up back to the parishoners since he’s asking ole boy to do it.
http://www.philly.com/ Jay Bee

Creamychic says:

Jay Bee says:

Leave the politics out of the Church….
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then there will be no church, the moment you file a 501 C-3 you now become a church of the world and not of GOD
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Yes it would, it just would little! “MANY” i mean “MANY” are “CALLED” but few are “CHOSEN”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@caligirl

I’ve been wanting to watch ‘The Rite’ for awhile…I heard about it being a true story…

@yvonne
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

This rottweiler head azz nigga
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HEY HEY HEY SR

Y am I not surprised but more so I feel no empathy for folks who go to church and get scammed! Honestly you going to church to worship the LORD so called and your azz in there making financial investments to profit off of! YEAH priorities are not in order take that!
NaijaGal

@Tatted if you read this when I saw the clip of Chrissy molly wopping ole girl all I could picture was you when you said you don’t play…no hair pulling, just straight punching and kicks
NaijaGal

@Choco I bet you don’t work out either for that tiny body hmpf
Creamychic

Jay Bee says:

Creamychic says:

Jay Bee says:

Leave the politics out of the Church….
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then there will be no church, the moment you file a 501 C-3 you now become a church of the world and not of GOD
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Yes it would, it just would little! “MANY” i mean “MANY” are “CALLED” but few are “CHOSEN”

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exactly true, but they know how to get you so they do, and build these multimillion dollars rat holes, and use the people to pay for them , that is wrong wrong wrong. if you go back to the scripture, you find that the son of MAN had nowhere to lay his head. these preachers of satan, and he is drawing many every .sunday
KDub

Y am I not surprised but more so I feel no empathy for folks who go to church and get scammed! Honestly you going to church to worship the LORD so called and your azz in there making financial investments to profit off of! YEAH priorities are not in order take that!
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So he done scammed folks out of money?

Surprise surprise surprise <<< Gomer Pyle voice.

"A lie is a cheat. And a cheat? Is a thief " <<< KDub's Grandma Bea voice.

SWEAR I hear her saying it in my head. That was one of her most FAMOUS sayings too.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Can NOT stand Joel Osteen! I don’t do gospel shows anyway!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Choco and Kdub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

Dirty IS as Dirty DOES …
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

“A lie is a cheat. And a cheat? Is a thief ” <<< KDub's Grandma Bea voice.
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Grandma Bea is on point thats why if my kids lie to me it's almost the worst thing you could do in my book – no character whatsoever so they tell me the truth most times and we go from there! They realized its better not to lie
Creamychic

Do any of yall church members speak in tounge if so how do they do it??
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

:2dance: Feeeeee

OFFTOPIC
SO this woman comes to me today and tries to train me on some program – just showed up at my desk wrong bish Im not a morning person and what you are training me on is not a resolution to the problem originally created you wanna get on my calendar to do this training oh k yeah! Saw this bish again she gave me the evil eye I was
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

@Creamy
I won’t answer your question in fear of incriminating myself but talking in tongues isn’t hard!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Creamy

I could never understand the tongues thing…most folks tell me that it’s just a language that comes to them and so they express it…my grandma tells me that it’s in the bible and at her church, before you can join and become a full-fledged member, you have to first talk in tongues…
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

@Choco I bet you don’t work out either for that tiny body hmpf
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Oh how I love thee SUP MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Choco

I have to tell folks that chit all the time at my office…they act like their needs and requests are important enough for me to stop what I am doing for them…THE NERVE!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

I could never understand the tongues thing…most folks tell me that it’s just a language that comes to them and so they express it
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http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

@FE
This bish got me wrong the problem is your reporting system has incorrect info in it – bish fix that and then we’ll talk!
Mamacita

@Creamy Ok. I give because I want to and that’s what I feel is right in me heart, not because I feel I’m forced to do so. God always supplies me with more than enough to do so. Church doors don’t stay open because of food and spices.

I understand what you’re saying but we are not living in the same way as they did back then. Are we really supposed to go by the same system of exchange that they did thousands of years ago?
MzTisch

Choco aka Hippie says:

OFFTOPIC
SO this woman comes to me today and tries to train me on some program – just showed up at my desk wrong bish Im not a morning person and what you are training me on is not a resolution to the problem originally created you wanna get on my calendar to do this training oh k yeah! Saw this bish again she gave me the evil eye I was
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I hate that! Don’t phuk with me a hour after I start work and a hour before I get off!
Creamychic

FeFe says:

@Creamy

I could never understand the tongues thing…most folks tell me that it’s just a language that comes to them and so they express it…my grandma tells me that it’s in the bible and at her church, before you can join and become a full-fledged member, you have to first talk in tongues…

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tounge is not jibber jabber, like juanita bynum speakingin toung on FB, and folks saying Amen in her respond, speaking in tounge is in other language not in unknown language, and there has to be an interpetur when doing so, and it must be done by tern not all at once he said let it 2 no more that 3. and it must be in order
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Creamychic says:

Do any of yall church members speak in tounge if so how do they do it??
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My mother speaks in tongue! She is a very faithful servant of God. When you see my mother, you KNOW for a fact she is a woman of Christ! There is nothing fake about my mother!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EaI0U1_IW4 shannon04

If those members would’ve researched Ephren Taylor they would still have they’re money today. I learned about this man a few years back. He is a smart man but he is also a thief…somewhat like a Bernie Madoff >> research City Capital Ephren Taylor and Kansas City together ….. after reading up on this guy my friend didn’t invest a dime with this dude.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

I hate that! Don’t phuk with me a hour after I start work and a hour before I get off!
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Right! And how the fuk you just gonna walk over and presume I feel like a) seeing your face b) talking to you and c) bish do yo mofo’ng job chit her training was not gonna get the problem fixed talking bout for the future – then I see you in the future #POW
KDub

Grandma Bea is on point thats why if my kids lie to me it’s almost the worst thing you could do in my book – no character whatsoever so they tell me the truth most times and we go from there! They realized its better not to lie
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My daddy and my uncle stole a typewriter and some kinda radio from a yt man they used to clean a building for back in 1964! My grandmother had to pay to get their juvenile delinquent azzes out of JAIL and had to pay that man for the stuff that got missing. Til she almost left this EARTH she would still ask dad “Did yall REALLY steal Mr. Davis’s stuff??” Answer was always NO. FINALLY he told her in 2002. He did not; but my uncle DID. Said he had to wait til she could handle the truff! And he was waiting on ole man Davis to die before he fessed up.
Creamychic

Mamacita says:

@Creamy Ok. I give because I want to and that’s what I feel is right in me heart, not because I feel I’m forced to do so. God always supplies me with more than enough to do so. Church doors don’t stay open because of food and spices.

I understand what you’re saying but we are not living in the same way as they did back then. Are we really supposed to go by the same system of exchange that they did thousands of years ago?

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we are in a different diposition in time now, so yes we will do things different but we still cant say that tithing mean this because it dont, and besides when you start teaching lies to fit your own agenda, its not of GOD, and yes we pay bills with the green legal tender but it is not real the only thing that is real is gold and silver, and american have none, so they create those fiticious bills and we get them to pay our debt, but if you dig deeper, you actually not paying at all, beacuse you did not pay with gold nor silver, its all an illusion really it is
Creamychic

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Creamychic says:

Do any of yall church members speak in tounge if so how do they do it??
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My mother speaks in tongue! She is a very faithful servant of God. When you see my mother, you KNOW for a fact she is a woman of Christ! There is nothing fake about my mother!
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No babygirl i never said that, I was stating what the word say, I didnt write it, it comes from the book, but I dont know what you mom speaks and I dont talk about people like that either.
HotTamale

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Creamychic says:

And in the word’s of the Most High, GOD is angry with the wicked everyday. the sad part about it is, he still growing in members,
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And most of the wicked are the ones that are suppose to be representing HIM to the most! SO CALLED CHRISTIANS, I tell ya!
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@ Tatted, cosign 1000%
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Creamychic says:

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Creamychic says:

Do any of yall church members speak in tounge if so how do they do it??
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My mother speaks in tongue! She is a very faithful servant of God. When you see my mother, you KNOW for a fact she is a woman of Christ! There is nothing fake about my mother!
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No babygirl i never said that, I was stating what the word say, I didnt write it, it comes from the book, but I dont know what you mom speaks and I dont talk about people like that either.
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I didn’t even read your post, so this was not addressed to you. I just basically responded to the question. Not directed at you, at all!
caligirl

SPEAKING IN TONGUES – Short version….The devil/his angels are able to intercept our prayers and speaking in tongues is a way of speaking to God without the devil being able to decipher what is being said.
Creamychic

Creamychic says:

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Creamychic says:

Do any of yall church members speak in tounge if so how do they do it??
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My mother speaks in tongue! She is a very faithful servant of God. When you see my mother, you KNOW for a fact she is a woman of Christ! There is nothing fake about my mother!
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No babygirl i never said that, I was stating what the word say, I didnt write it, it comes from the book, but I dont know what you mom speaks and I dont talk about people like that either.
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I didn’t even read your post, so this was not addressed to you. I just basically responded to the question. Not directed at you, at all!
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oh ok u
Creamychic

caligirl says:

SPEAKING IN TONGUES – Short version….The devil/his angels are able to intercept our prayers and speaking in tongues is a way of speaking to God without the devil being able to decipher what is being said.

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Huh?
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

oh ok u
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So cute JOY JOY JOY :2dance:
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

caligirl says:

SPEAKING IN TONGUES – Short version….The devil/his angels are able to intercept our prayers and speaking in tongues is a way of speaking to God without the devil being able to decipher what is being said.
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EXACTLY! this is what I grew up being taught, and this is what I believe!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

I think the Devil can decipher what is said in tongues – they too have a language that sounds like tongues
MzTisch

Choco aka Hippie says:

I hate that! Don’t phuk with me a hour after I start work and a hour before I get off!
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Right! And how the fuk you just gonna walk over and presume I feel like a) seeing your face b) talking to you and c) bish do yo mofo’ng job chit her training was not gonna get the problem fixed talking bout for the future – then I see you in the future #POW

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CTFU! Or the ones that come to your desk while you are eating talking about, “Are you on lunch?” GTF away from me! I mean, I take lunch around the same time everyday. Why do you bishes come to ask me some chit during that time? BASTIDS!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Choco aka Hippie says:

oh ok u
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So cute JOY JOY JOY :2dance:
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You’re a goofball! I didn’t know how that got all discombobulated!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

GTF away from me!
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we are like kind!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Choco aka Hippie says:

I think the Devil can decipher what is said in tongues – they too have a language that sounds like tongues
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I agree, but you hit it on the head when you said they have a language that SOUNDS like tongues! People forget that he bless his ppl to w/gifts, financial, etc.
http://www.philly.com/ Jay Bee

Amen CreamyChic!
caligirl

@creamychic – speaking in tongues is a gift and being able to translate what is being said is also a gift. If one is to speak in tongues in “church” someone should be there to interpet what you are saying, otherwise it for self edifcation and between you and GOD.
MzTisch

Choco aka Hippie says:

GTF away from me!
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we are like kind!

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Choco, girl…….People are just rude now-a-days. They don’t think. At least not of others……..
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

It’s amazes me (AGAIN NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS ANYONE) that when one don’t believe as you believe, it’s not so! This is the very exact reason why I don’t debate or try and convince anyone of your beliefs. You don’t have to, they are yours!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

@Tatted
We could go all day and some may even think I worship the DEVIL but I don’t – here’s how I see it Lucifer was GOD’s most beautiful angel – OUR GOD IS A LOVING GOD – now being as though Lucifer was once an ANGEL in heaven I don’t believe the war between good and evil is about GOD and LUCIFER more so the demons who think that LUCIFER’s bidding is always EVIL I don’t find this to be true – Lucifer presents you with temptation – that is all – if you choose temptation he is merely pointing out the errors of mankind – which is really what got him casted out of heaven – not that he wanted GOD’s POWER or was jealous of him – HE challenged GOD to reconsider creating a race of humans where they had so many choices – but GOD’s plan is a RIGHT and CONSCIOUS ONE! In that he will see the good and bad in mankind in their choices – which is why we must all repent even for the sins he already died for in the name of us all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

Lord, I don’t do religion talk but, if Lucifer/Satan/Long ass list of names was once an ArchAngel himself, why wouldn’t he be able to interpret Tongues? Did they change the language when he got evicted?
Creamychic

Well this is my final post on this subject, i grew up on that as well but it is not in the bible, not nowhere in the 66 books nor the 400+ laws, dont get me wrong I have my flaws.. speaking in tounges is a gift. you cant rehearse it, go to school to get it, etc, but i respect yall to the fullest, going to the next post. these bible post are kinda touchy, and i can respect everyone thoughts, I dont agree, but I will respect it. Love ya :2dance: tatted and :2dance: with caligirl
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Choco – you are definitely right, we COULD go all day, but I don’t do that!

I also agree with you 100% but I also BELIEVE that some people are presented w/gifts. That is my belief!
caligirl

Choco aka Hippie says:

I think the Devil can decipher what is said in tongues – they too have a language that sounds like tongues
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I agree, but you hit it on the head when you said they have a language that SOUNDS like tongues! People forget that he bless his ppl to w/gifts, financial, etc.
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The devil cannot decipher what has been said in the HOLY SPIRIT through tongues. I have read that when one is possessed they are speaking in UNKNOWN TONGUES.
HotTamale

Most false prophet preach Malachi 3 as a reason to take folks money, that scripture is misunderstood to the average person, it was all about food, spices etc, never money
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At last, someone that truly gets it.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

I also agree with you 100% but I also BELIEVE that some people are presented w/gifts. That is my belief!
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The devil cannot decipher what has been said in the HOLY SPIRIT through tongues.
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Yes he can he was once an ANGEL of the LORD
caligirl

Like a said 50/11 post before. If you worship bread, monkeys, fruit, zebras. That’s on you. I’m not knocking NO BODY or anyone. My grandfather was a minister and so is my mother. I studied religion in college, but I have yet to be called to minster. I just ain’t that right YET….I got nothing but for errrrbody

Choco Hey girl
Tatted Your makeup is always fierce.
Creamychic : waves: you too funny
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Caligirl and love your honesty about being right to live up to that TITLE of MINISTER! Right ON!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Caligirl, thank you for the compliment. I appreciate it. I can definitely understand where you are coming from. My mother is a minister and I love her to life! She restored my faith that there are people really living (not just preaching) his word!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Cali – BTW – I studied religion in college @ Selma University in Selma, AL before transferring to The Ohio State University!
caligirl

@ Tatted this is why we have to know the word for OURSELF’s and not what anyone tells you. Have a wonderful day
caligirl

@Tatted – My formal courses were @ Cal State, but Grandma kicked it off at age 5. Now sit your tail down and read the first 5 chapters of Psalms.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Caligirl – YES, YES! You too!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Caligirl – OKAY! We HAD to read the Bible! You almost viewed it as a punishment, but, what I grew to know is that my people were teaching me to read for self, learn it on my own! People can quote, know it back and forth, and still be as big of a heathen as the next man!
caligirl

@Tatted: That is soooo funny! I love that woman for that know. When you know the word, you don’t have to quote you light will shine.
renegadesince1985

Ummm…I’m not going to go into too much here cause religion is a touch subject. I’ll just say that people need to quit worshiping this man and start worshiping GOD! A lady at my old job went there and she sounded like she was brainwashed! It was scary

I’m not going to any church where my pastor/preacher/bishop..whatever you call them… is driving Bentleys and shyting on gold toilets.

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