Rapper T.I. argued with his arresting officer in jailhouse footage hours after he was arrested for drunken and disorderly conduct at his wife’s gate community in Henry County, Ga. early Wednesday.
In the jailhouse footage obtained by TMZ, T.I., whose real name is Clifford Harris, Jr., argues with the arresting officer, who is off-camera.
Henry County officers were called to the Eagles Landing Country Club in Stockbridge where T.I.’s wife, Tameka “Tiny” Cottle purchased a mansion in 2014.
According to sources with knowledge of the encounter, T.I. was denied entry to the affluent golf and tennis community because he didn’t have a sticker on his vehicle and he refused to show ID to prove he lived there.
The security guard eventually allowed him in after the registered property owner — Tameka — authorized his access over the phone.
Not satisfied with being dissed in public, T.I. and another Stockbridge resident, music producer Marquinarious Holmes, aka “Sanchez”, returned to the guardhouse to berate the guard for not knowing who T.I. was.
After the men ordered him to call his supervisor, the guard said he felt threatened and called the police, who arrested T.I. for drunken and disorderly conduct.
Holmes, 40, was arrested for outstanding warrants out of Clayton County.
In the jailhouse footage, T.I. calmly asked why he was arrested. The officer responded that he was arrested for “acting like a fool.”
“I wasn’t acting like no fool!” T.I. argued.
“You didn’t have to come back,” the cop replied.
“I didn’t have to come back?” I have a right to come back,” T.I. said, implying that he paid “millions of dollars” for the mansion tat is registered in Tameka’s name.
T.I. was later released on bond.

the entitlement these celebrities have. … Remind of Reese Witherspoon that time
Marquinarious
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I couldn’t get past this. This sound like Bowen homes to me
I said this yesterday to. “Do u know who I am??”
I don’t know the full story but I am feeling some type of way as I listen to this podcast on the prison industrial complex.
There is a war of terror against black people in this country. Any reason that they can, they WILL lock you up. A black body is a money ticket. Maybe there is truth to what T.I was saying. He was wrongfully locked up.
listen, T.I. got himself in this little kerfuffle! boy, hush your mouth! he gon be mad at Tiny tho. lol!
TI, next time don’t drink and look for puz$#y. It never ends well.
Lol! I almost clapped out every syllable to make sure I pronounced it correctly?
Is that his friend next to him madder den a muthafukka? LMAOOO
Marquinarious Holmes, aka “Sanchez”
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Macarena Sanchez Holmes Rodriguez should have returned his ass to his own lane…to his own house in Stockbridge.
???
As the CAUSE for the name fukkery (Bowen Homes is the reason he is named this shit)…or the actual sound of the name? Im screaming.
Those corner cameras in the jailhouse always show everything thats why you supposed to keep ya mouth shut smh….I never realized TIP was that little…looking like a short stack of pancakes with his fine azz…
Lol
I ain’t even up enuf to try to pronounce that name
At every facet – no just in the court system. I just had to get a neighbor together for talking to one of my sons out of pocket. We both raised our voices a bit and the first thing this other WHITE ItchBa ( that had nothing to do with the situation) did was tell the other woman “ Just call the police on her.”
I couldn’t get back to my truck to let the windows up fast enough so my boys wouldn’t hear the foul disrespectful shit I let out of my mouth towards her. Told her to take a damn good look at me because Im probably the first BLACK woman she will see that won’t flinch over the opportunity to sit out a ticket or two. The aunt and I came to an understanding but I was so mad st the white ItchBa I called the police on my damn self to see how and what to do when one has a verbal altercation. I was ultimately told no one can go to jail for a verbal altercation only when a threat of or actual physical altercation happens. I couldn’t believe it though. Call the police on ME because a whole grown woman – who IS NOT a parent, cursed out a child because he told a little girl (her niece) that he saw her flip off another kid.
Yea, I remember that. She was wildin’. lol They need constant affirmation to feed their egos.
That pisses them off even more because they think everyone should. LOL
LOL. Chile. I hate when Sandra posts stuff about my former friend because I end up commenting when I tell myself that I shouldn’t.
I’ve been telling y’all for quite some time now that T.I is a hot mess, an egomaniac, a maniac, a bully, and just an azzhole in general. He is extremely hard to get along with and the only reason why Sanchez is still hanging around is because he has really nothing else going on anymore outside of his relationship with T.I., and he kisses T.I.’s ass better than anybody else in the circle.
Alcohol and drugs only highlight your true personality, it doesn’t recreate it, by the way.
This is pretty much how T.I. resolves “disputes”, i.e., anybody who doesn’t give him what he wants, when he wants it, how he wants it, or slights him in some way that only he sees: he threatens them or finds a way to retaliate.
At least him and his boyfriend didn’t have to stay in jail long though.
I’m so sorry your child and you had to experience that. Yes, they are trying us! They’ve been trying us! we can’t study in common rooms, can’t golf, can’t stay in Airbnb’s, can’t enter our own homes, can’t barbecue, can’t meet at public establishments without THEM bothering us. It’s ridiculous.
you can just tell by his body language, he’s giving them the business with some of his best and biggest words, Lol!
This is why Tiny moved her crew behind the Gates in the first place .
Good job Security. Exactly what a woman needs when a brother shows his behind.
Stay Safe Tiny .
i can see it. i just picture him speaking all Oswald and stuff
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0bee5faa85bf41b2bf152ddaff01e60b9aa4ff64a05c30530b4c66484b3db94.jpg
Bullying is never OK.
But, he did have a right to come back.
and see Tiny ain’t say nothing. clearly she didn’t want the nugga there. she didn’t call or come to clear up shat
that last part though…. ‘go ahead caller, i’m listening’ LOL! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68bc52b2a4f54f3dc0d4dea29ec0c12c203c19b65d4d18beb2fbbd13d0be6a55.gif
lawd, now i want pancakes…
How in the world does TMZ get their hands on these videos? They must be funded by the government because they be the only ones with exclusive videos.
“Because I was quwestioning the person who REFRUSED to acknowlege me!!”
“I am not arguing but I am MERELY seeking an ANSWER”
“Why did that constinute for me to be arrested”
girl my hand is trembling just from reading this…. i can’t find the words…. i applaud you for standing YOUR ground though! i keep telling these ‘post-racial’ knee-grows, that mess is in their DNA – they gonna always assume authority and oversight. still, i’m committed to re-training & educating as many as i personally can. they gotta learn, smh
I’m glad that you held your composure because I KNOW that *ish was HARD. Kudos! If it was the right one, she woulda got a nice fade. lol It sucks you had to go through that mess. smh I was mad for you reading that BS.
That cop could give a fugg about her pasty yt arse
*blank stare*
you got one more time, today. *swallows yelp that almost escaped* https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/615d380290005c75f2b73b61063d678adb00cb683258e4273a2f5c12b8d5723d.gif
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
In minority here. IDK. Maybe NOT.
He might have not have had CERTAIN RIGHTS in this scenario.
We dont know whose house that is…
We dont know (YET) about any previous incidents he had with the security shack and their employee stable of Rent A Cops.
But EVERY citizen has the RIGHT to ask the grounds of their arrest. Which is what Clifford did in this video. And Im sorry “acting like a fool” is not a good damn answer. It just AINT.
The end.
Man does TI come with a mute button. His long winded speechs and poorly placed metaphors irk my nerves. Sayless my brotha
“Why did that constinute for me to be arrested”
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gotta go to lunch…. i’m straining so hard not to holler, i’m getting gassy…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/615d380290005c75f2b73b61063d678adb00cb683258e4273a2f5c12b8d5723d.gif
Lawd hammercy….That last part!
That part reminded me of drunk ass Mr. Turner. An ICON. The GOAT.
“I refuse to answer any questions under the grounds that it may incriminate me!!!!”
Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-uIqkDVQ4
chile… talk about a cliff hanger!
wait… i said “Cliff” ….you get it? CLIFF?
….gotta go for real now… i done tickled myself in a majorly way….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/615d380290005c75f2b73b61063d678adb00cb683258e4273a2f5c12b8d5723d.gif
Harvey is a gay ass Jew lawyer. He has the connects.
At least him and his boyfriend didn’t have to stay in jail long though.
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Now see? NOPE!
Money talks.
LIES!
T.I. is one of the coolest most approachable celebrities I ever met.
T.I. said, implying that he paid “millions of dollars” for the mansion tat is registered in Tameka’s name.
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Don’t matter if he paid for the house or not. Its in HER name therefore its HER house…..
music producer Marquinarious Holmes,
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How in the tongue-twisting tarnation do you even pronounce this???
And Im sorry “acting like a fool” is not a good damn answer. It just AINT.
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AT ALL!!
I’m a need you to give the verbatim wording listed in Penal Code 18, section 5.C.iaa.,statue 527, violation 101. (made up but you get the pic!)
Ok so it wasn’t just me that was trying to “sound it out”
They need to realize not everybody cares.
Sounds like his ass belongs in a fish tank not a jail cell
LOLLOLLOL!!!
Snicker….
he was arrested for “acting like a fool.”
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Sounds about right…
It varies from state to state and in some instances, they dont have to tell you. But he can for sure ASK. And I think in some places, once you have been transported from the scene they do have to tell you why. Im not sure of the process for GA. I applaud him for knowing his rights though.
What is Bowen homes?
This country is becoming a POLICE STATE.
Law enforcement are tools for people’s personal annoyances, prejudices, and hate. Don’t want someone waiting for a friend in a coffee shop, have them arrested. Someone raise their voice, have them arrested.
Yes, TI may have been acting a fool, but this arrest was unnecessary waste of tax dollars. He was arrested because he annoyed the guard, not because the guard felt or was threatened.
All someone white (or black) has to do these days is say “a black person is annoying me”, and the police will come along and arrest them. That’s a police state. It’s a shame because black folks use the police against each other too knowing the dangers.
Absolutely you deserve the right and like you said, “acting a fool” is not the proper answer, PERIOD!
To the officer: that’s an ACTUAL crime sir?
Also his fren Macarena may have a few rights too. If you are arrested for an outstanding warrant I think they have to show it to you before you are officially booked. Not sure if that happened either. We dont know.
This country is becoming a POLICE STATE.
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Its been happening along time. Little by little we are happily giving our rights to the government in the name of “patriotism and security” Its all bullshyt and the government knows it. We gonna be living in concentration camps soon enough. Just watch.
Mosquito should have stayed his wanted arse at the house….but that’s neither here nor there…
The projects. Demolished now I think.
He should have just gone to Bernice partment and tailed somebody in the gate. Now your homeboy in jail selling police tapes to tmz for honey buns
he kisses T.I.’s ass better than anybody else in the circle.
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This has got to be true because why would someone with an outstanding warrant come to T.I.’s defense?
Right he looking like man just shut tf up that’s why we in this ish now lol???
Oh I said that too. Why was you there buddy?
Lol thanks!
OOOUUUUUUU! I saw this yeeeaaaaaaaaaars ago and is an ALL TIME fav. Mr. Turner’s drunk ass knew his rights! Drunk and all!
T.I. doesn’t look or act intoxicated in this video.
I applaud him for knowing his rights though.
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TUH – He may not know how to conjugate verbs in their proper context, but he damn sure better know his rights! As many times as this mofo has been through the penal system…
hahahahah.lmao. and since when do the po po share their interrogation videos
They Have The 10 Minute 911 Call Out Now With T.I Yelling In The Background & The Security Guard Is Black Too.
I’m back…. yeah i left for REAL.
now here go This foolishness, smh… *clicks play* https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5406a067d89d1924f4f9967857b7ca15a701e44524df7514659efb170810c224.gif
Enjoy chile! Hot tears await….
Holllllllllllllllllllllerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring. I swear I am related to Mr. Turner. Or he went to high school with my daddy’nem. LORDT.
Yeen never lied. Hot tears, snot… I wasn’t ready at all for Mr. Turner.
Baaybbeee when I tell you Mr. Turner READ them their rights…classic!
THIS!
Other than stupidity!
Did you close your eyes?? Damn near died!!!
T.I. baby you are not Malcolm X. Please have several seats. That liquor got you gassed Boo. Now you done got Marquinarious hemmed up.
This is where I laughed so hard my heart stopped:
Sir, are you refusing the test? “YEAH! I’M REFUSING THE MUHFUGGIN TEST!”
If this was today they would have just shot Mr. Turner. My bf had NEVER seen this until 2 years ago….He was like Mr. Turner gave them damn officers the 1984 business.
i hope yall happy…. i done sputtered & sprayed tuna fish shrapnel all over my daggone keyboardt! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ee213326789da8c38cd6f48b38b83c0913d5380bd129361dd5ed666d29db102.gif
yall on that b.s. today…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/adf60a6e2371eb61ed06e11e80488e695ce1b05aba500eece1116c5034cde3bf.gif
Rocks Nancy. You NEEDED to see this Nan!
*chokes on chip*
lawd….
YEP! When I showed this to my parents, they said the exact same thing- Mr. Turner’s ass would be grass fuggin with these officers tuday!
Look, I warned you! Now go get a wet paper towel and clean up!
*sniffles*
you right. i did… i did. *sniffle*
I want you to put the muhfuggin handcuffs on me and take me to muhfuggin jail!!
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shut it! i got clorox wipes. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16192fdc61f10ea0e85c64a5c68ffcada626e5c7a9764a7592d68ef5a33dfbcb.gif
He was SO fed up after the physical prleh-foam-mence tess. And the line of questioning. He was drunk. But he WAS NOT muthafawkin drivin! He lost it at the end. Just totally lost his shit.
Humble pies are being handed out… This is not the time for taking on the sense of entitlement … Get folded SMH .. And you’re so right
tess
I’m going to lunch!
Ohhhh so ya’ll does it big over thur!
As angry as I was, when I got home I actually cried out of anger because the shit isn’t fair, you know? I really wanted to put hands on her but the boys couldn’t see that… Lord know if they weren’t there…. I live in McKinney – where the little girl got “handled” by the police at a pool party and a city council member JUST accused the police of racial profiling. We moved out here to give thsee kids a better chance – schools are phenomenal I’m still struggling with “turn the other cheek” with racism. There have been some good white neighbors but the looks and blatant disrespect sometimes is tasking.
*whispers*
i know peepa…
uh-oh, new post…. i’m gonna have to logout and come back, much later. i can’t.
Well then ???
(giggles)
“well sir, unbeknownst to me .. i was indubitably & wrongfully arrested due to the fact that i was trying to gain entry to the property in which in fact i rightfully own..”
boy sit yo ass down somewhere.
RIGHT!
And nobody “truna hur dat schit he talked bout pahdna u hur meh”…in a language only them materialistic country undereducated over dressed too much nasty sex VD sharing bammas clothing line boutique opening protesting when told no but with money muffuggas utters! Smdh
NOT ready!! He told her to close her muddafukken eyes!?
Quwurstunin” lmao
I so understand how you were feeling. The sh*t isn’t fair. I ask questions all the time as to why do we get this life? Why is it so hard for US to just live and be just as any other person? It does test your emotions….I mean, there have been times where I had to respond in a nasty way but that’s all I could do because I KNOW that when sh*t hits the fan it will be my black a** going down. It’s like we gettin’ punked and can’t do sh*t about it. I ABSOLUTELY HATE THAT FEELING. I choose my battles wisely though because if I didn’t I’d be slapping white b*tches left and right. lol
Just know sis that when you cry, we all do. I hope this never happens to you again. And if it does, may your boys be in a safe place where they can’t see you draggin’ her ass on the floor. lol
Oh.. And BYE CLIFFORD!
Chile that name ? I almost stopped reading after that…?????
????!!
?? I hope it’s the little Debbie honey buns at least. The large box at that.
#narcissism
#guarddontknowhim
#lLOL
And the security guard had a right to call the cops if he felt threatened by the situation.
I’m so tired of people elevating this negro like he’s a combination of Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.
You just made my dam day!! I cry EVERYTIME I see mr.Turner he was good and drunk!! That man said I was drunk BUT I wasn’t mfkin driving!!! Da bish jumped in my lap ???? you take the moformance physical ???
Jesas!! I knowed I was going to die several times in this post! I just knowed it!!
Amen
You know the guard injured his narcissism because he said he didn’t know TI.
LOL!!!!
I had to repost this comment firm slither blog:
“The timing of the edification of this problematic circumstance has severely limited my contentious appetite for lasciviousness and further alienated my beloved assemblage. Pardon me.” – Tip.
LMBAO!
music producer Marquinarious Holmes
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‘Marquinarious?’ your name’s ‘Marquinarious?”
GO TO BED!! I’m crine!! Just shut it down. Take a potty break and just go to bed!! ????????? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1fbc90cd4e9d13dd79f0e1d4c0823b963da77faf17c8eddc3658d626c474c860.gif
Le sigh…EV I could barely get past it myself ??
Exactly. Sanchez used to have his own up and coming career but now he’s just the weed carrier.
The other guy is the bigger idiot, because if he won’t of gone with him he won’t of got arrested for all his warrants! Just because u are famous doesn’t mean everybody in the world is going to know who u are! He thinks he’s very “entitled” in my opinion!
“WHAT?! my license ALREADY suspended.”
mr. turner remains a legend. he let them folks have it.
Mofos can get a video of a celebrity in the bing asap but took forever and a day to get the video of Sandra Bland’s lock up.. smh..these yt devils all in cahoots…
LOL….Girl I know what you mean. I’ve ran through 4 keyboards within the last two years. My last keyboard was destroyed by Fried Chicken grease and crumbs…..LOL…Some of the letters and numbers were missing plus letter I and A, N wasn’t working anymore….LOL
Yeah, that’s all I got out of that too. Imagine trying to learn how to spell and write Marquinarious as a kindergartner. Good grief.
AND IS. I love him to pieces
Lawrd Have Mercy….SMH……T.I shirt is a Toddler size 12……LOL……I see that T.I has been reading a dictionary to use big words in a simple sentence sounding stupid….LOL
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A few people are crying “police brutality” and all that nonsense but this is not that. The guard did his job.
If I were working a security job, and I had just refused entry to someone for whatever reason, I would feel threatened if that person not only went and got some unknown person to assist them in whatever it is he plans to do, but then the person begins beating on my door and mumbling some crazy jibberish all while demanding me to “come outside”, and “handle it man to man”. That’s crazy behavior.
Security guards are trained to not escalate a situation, and to call police if necessary. The guy did his job.
And I would have called the cops too.
Everybody seems to be overlooking one thing: how come Tiny didn’t crawl out of her bed (or whoever’s bed) and just come up there and straighten things out? Think about that.
T.I. was looking to prove a point: he wanted to show the guard that he was inferior. Thus the, “Do you know who I am?” line. That’s how T.I. thinks; typical superior attitude.
One more thing…disorderly charges aren’t usually leveled in Georgia unless the law enforcement officer is present to witness the conduct. An audio recording usually doesn’t influence that.
That case, regardless of T.I.’s connections with local D.A.’s, will be dropped–UNLESS he acted a fool in the presence of cops, which is likely.
Beating on a door while tossing threatening innuendos can be considered assault, although its a stretch. These charges all came as a result of the public intoxication, which is a pedestrian charge that can easily come from situations such as this.
To anybody looking to turn up and breach the peace in a similar situation, if cops come, then the rule of thumb is: somebody is going to jail.
He can’t help it. And yet, there are people encouraging him to run for Congress–which is the stupidest idea ever.
Name of this podcast, please?? Sounds like something I need to listen to.
You got to be kidding me? He is a known FELON!!!! So tell me how he is going to win? He is going to put out a whole of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Tip SHOULD NOT hAve gone back he should be happy that security guard was that strict..and doing his job..without proper identification…secondly he did not deserve to be arrested they couldve easily sent him back home!! Strr8 bs!!! Had he been white they would’ve just been “like cmon sam let us escort u home!” ?? Frkn pink and black pigs !!!
For years I love this video! One of the best movies ever made. No screenwriter could ever write what Ike Turner naturally was.
And he did.
But, for the cop to say or imply that TI did not have the right is inaccurate.
i’m weak….
okay, i get the crumbs (i’ve had to flip mine over and tap it to dislodge cookie crumbs)…. but chicken grease!!!! WEAK! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b029c76378ea5eb0d17be0ae40b316f329298b08b0b47105020d3c5aaea4a82e.gif
I am so serious. Even the Mayor is telling him he should run.
Both him and Killer Mike are idiots and that would be amplified and displayed at full effect if either ran for office.
same here. he’s my drunk ass spirit animal ?
The guy did his job.
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That man was SLEEP. You can hear his hesitation in the actual 911 tape in reporting some of the facts. Why? Bc he was sleep on his job and he knows it. TI charges gonna get dropped and he gonna go about his happily rich ass life. This security rent a cop ass negro gonna be looking for another $10.50 an hour security job. Tip shouldnt have pulled rank on the man with the whole do you know who I am…no. But the dude was NOT doing his job by sleeping in the guard shack
I can not understand why the officer would not tell him why he was arrested. Isn’t that his right?
Constitute.
I can’t.
??????????????. Dâmn! Dámn! Dámn! Did he really tell her to close her eyes???
Wait didn’t Tiny call and approve for him to get the trough the gate? What am I missing?
They are just too darn beautiful together.
Girl I thought you knew. Calling police on our black asses is in the Bill of Rights of white privilege.
Did the police ask him to leave or did they just show up and arrest him?
How is Killer Mike an idiot?
exactly. he is trash.
REFRUSED……TEEeeeeeeeeeeHeeeeeeeeeeee
Girl you done gone and dug up this oldie but goodie….lemme go get some butter free popcorn, I need a good chuckle…
damn!
Same thing went through my mind….Like HOW in THEE HELL….isn’t that a lawsuit? I’m suing the whole jail house for slandering…lol
She did approve him to come him after he refused to show his ID….then he came back…
Mr. Turner is a mess!! I’m dead..
1984 Business.. 84 was a very good year!!
IKR!!! I guess it’s been so long since I had an issue with blatant racism I was taken aback – especially since I had a issue ANY mom would have a problem with.
Doesn’t look like an argument to me. Looks like he’s ASKING A QUESTION and pending a response.
If this were you, would you not demand a response as to WHY SPECIFICALLY YOU WERE ARRESTED?
I don’t understand some of y’all and how yall ok with people’s rights/basic freedoms easily resulting in their arrests. SMH
If only the CURRENT FLOTUS would snatch her man’s phone ?
The media outlets are mostly run by Time Warner. TMZ is an affiliate last I checked.
The others are basically TBN and some other conglomerate
THESE WHITE COPS THINK THEY R ABOVE THE LAW. ANYTIME A PERSON OF COLOR WANT BOW DOWN.THEY GET IN THEIR PUNK X FEELINGS .AND BECOME DETERMINED TO SHOW U THAT MONEY OR NOT YOU AINT (BEEP). ITS SICKENING
Lmao chile! For real ? please and thank you!
RUINED IT! AND IM GLAD!
Ruined it! AND IM GLAD! BYE CLIFFORD!
Looking STOOOOPID!
I’m sure when they booked him they told him why. This entitled fool’s just mad because the cops are treating him like any other regular Joe.
He was probably drunk and belligerent and they locked him up for the night so he could sober up. Wouldn’t be the first time they’ve done that to a drunk person.
Ha…you can tell his buzzed or drunk….he knew he was wrong….TI…do better homie…for real….
LMAO!!!!!!! This is funny as shit!! Reminds me of my Uncle Duke…..he was notorious for getting drunk and acting out!!!
physical mafornace test….lmao
mr turner is a classic. we still place bets to try to watch without laughing
I hate 12.