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For nearly 2 months, news organizations reported that a $3,500 check made out to two Chicago brothers by Jussie Smollett was payment for a hoax hate crime attack. But now the brothers confirm the check was in fact for a training program.

According to TMZ, the $3,500 check made out to Abel Osundairo was for training to prepare the former Empire actor for an upcoming music video shoot. Abel, 25, and his brother Ola Osundairo, 27, are bodybuilders.

Abel and Ola's attorney, Gloria Schmidt, told TMZ the $3,500 check was compensation for a training and nutrition program designed to help Smollett bulk up for a music video.

Schmidt denied a reporter's suggestion that the brothers could be in legal jeopardy if they lied to police about the check.

"Absolutely not," Schmidt said. "I don't know what the prosecutors have said or not said, but I know in terms of their legal analysis, they're not in any peril."

She said Smollett "took advantage" of the Osundairo brothers. "What this case really is about is a person in a position of trust who really betrayed my clients and took advantage of them."

Smollett, who is biracial and openly homosexual, told police two Trump supporters attacked him and yelled racist and homophobic slurs while pouring bleach on him and tying a rope around his neck outside his condo on Jan. 29.

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Smollett, 36, was arrested on Feb. 20 and charged with one felony count of lying to the police. He also faces federal charges of mailing a threatening letter to himself.

Chicago PD Superintendent Eddie Johnson accused the actor of paying the brothers $3,500 to help him stage the attack. They told police Smollett promised to pay them an additional $500 when they returned from a trip to Africa. They departed the U.S. for Nigeria the same day as the alleged attack.

But the new revelations contradicts what Supt. Johnson told the media in a press conference days before Smollett's arrest.

"Smollet paid $3,500 to stage this attack and drag Chicago's reputation through the mud in the process," Johnson said during the news conference.

A Chicago grand jury returned a 16 felony count indictment against Smollett based on the information given to them by the Chicago PD. The actor faces a maximum of 48 years in prison if convicted on all charges.

In related news, some of the Empire crew members have reportedly turned against Smollett.

The cast and crew are said to be divided over the allegations that Smollett concocted a hate crime to benefit himself financially.

According to Page Six, some of the hair and makeup department crew members are reportedly "disgusted" by the allegations and refused to sign a card for the actor.

Smollett is due back in court on March 14.

  • dontgetblocked

    I'm tired of these big black brothers. They knew what they were doing,

  • Li-Wright

    Whatever happened in that grand jury we will never know until trial. Grand juries are secretive, so for the chief to make that statement about the $3500 was crossing the line. The Chief gave too much information at that press conference. I can understand he's upset, but the grand jury has all the evidence.

  • ALLMINE?

    He saw two white men with MAGA hats tho.

  • Peppermint Patty

    At least it's a different picture cuz they wore that other one OUT!!

  • Coy little wink
  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    Have we already discussed the woman mauled by the Jag-U-Ar *in my man from the jaguar commercial's voice*
    I just said that whole sentence in an English accent!!!
    lmao!!! I'm sorry I'm deliriously sleepy right now...come on 5pm!!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™
  • WinterIsComing

    All that massive bulky muscle will turn to fat and titties. I prefer my men slim and trim.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Empire actor for an upcoming music video shoot.
    ________________-
    For a video shoot .....No movie ???? These lies keep piling up ...... This shyt is quicksand ....... just stop while your ahead ...... https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/164ad7cc338a739f7fc2d94294a2ffb67b75ae66872436dbe732bfb54ee4ae16.gif

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil
  • Navybeans95

    ......?So that small little detail of him being seen still wearing the "noose" around his neck 45 mins after the alleged attack....was that true or false?....so now the media wants to insinuate that he may be innocent?...ok..not spending one more second thinking about this crap...?

  • Whirl

    I’m liking your balanced approach to this case, Ms. Rose.

  • MrsSpice1

    Who cares ? they’re all going down...next!

  • brooklyn23

    Im witchu

  • Whirl

    He’s back in court on pi day (3.14 or the circumference of a circle). This should be interesting.

  • bemetoo

    thats her fault she scared that jaguar and the jag said bitch get back

  • bemetoo

    fawk jussie bust down thotiana and chicago PD

  • Navybeans95

    Yes...everything tight and right ..don't need all that bulky muscle...

  • WinterIsComing

    The worst is when they have all that bulk up top and chicken legs on the bottom.

  • Vegas1989

    I'm here standing up working and this damn cat putting on these glasses...And I hate cats too...They don't mind like a dog...But I'm crying and I'm glad my neighbor didn't see me fall over...LOL...LOG OUT NOW!!!!

  • Navybeans95

    Ha!...terrible...just stop with the bench pressing ..

  • Vegas1989

    I need this GIF to post on a thread....

  • bemetoo

    the african dude in the black shorts got a lil peterwacker

  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    It sure TF was her fault!!! And I was waiting for them to say they were gonna try and put that animal down...I WAS GONNA START THE PETITION!!!!

  • Vegas1989

    I'm with you on that....My husband has some chicken legs....and he said that I have Fred Flintstone Calves....LOL...

  • RaginB

    I wonder if he told em he would pay em more if they said it was for “training purposes”.....stop the bullshit jamal.

  • Rainbowbelow

    He needed to bulk up for a video?! Was he trying to do another D'Angelo, Untitled type of music video?.

  • WinterIsComing

    Lolol I think big calves are beautiful

  • WinterIsComing

    Lol

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    It’s funny ain’t it

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    ?? we needed a laugh

  • Vegas1989

    I'm crying, coughing and laughing at the same damn time.....LOL

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    ??? I’m looking at this post like that too

  • bemetoo

    off topic yall seen brandy bust her ass lip syncing whitney houston last night in miami at jazz in the garden ?? girl ray j big sister need to have a seat

  • bemetoo

    lol i would've signed

  • Vegas1989

    Thanks....I've been laughing all day but this pic right here took the cake...And I can't stand cats but at the end of the day I will show a cat some love...My pooch right now is on Troll Patrol on the cats....LOL...He's too funny....He be side eyeing my husband when he tells him to go sit somewhere...My doggie is Super Spoiled. We don't have any kids...And dog dude be ready to go when I pick up my keys. I want to get him cleared to come work with me..>But that damn dog will have me fired barking at ERRRYBODY

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I think "the media" overall still realizes he's probably guilty... but they may have gotten that piece of information wrong. I'm sure his defense attorneys will be all over that, trying to create reasonable doubt. But I think there are so many layers of evidence that it's going to be hard for him not to get convicted.

  • Vegas1989

    But I can't wear these boots that I brought years ago....Bad boots...But I have to get extra wide calves.....

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Yup. No need to try the case in the news media. I felt that he said waay too much in that news conference.

  • Vegas1989

    That was her fault trying to take a selfie with a CAGED ANIMAL.....I glad that she didn't die...

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    I’m catwoman ok! Totally. I don’t have kids either. Not yet

  • Navybeans95

    ....bc they are all over the place with alleged "evidence"....definitely safe to say to just wait on the trial...

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    I wish u could take him to work. That would be great

  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    Yeah Im glad she wasn't too seriously hurt. But had they come talm bout they made a conscious decision to put that lil pussy cat down I was gon kick the shyt off!!! Cuz she shouldna hopped her happy azz over that fence. Its always them though that do shyt like that. Like what would possess you to hop that gate with all those carnivorous animals inside and not think they would see yo azz as lunch?!?!

  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    Yeah Im glad she wasn't too seriously hurt. But had they come talm bout they made a conscious decision to put that lil pussy cat down I was gon kick the shyt off!!! Cuz she shouldna hopped her happy azz over that fence. Its always them though that do shyt like that. Like what would possess you to hop that gate with all those carnivorous animals inside and not think they would see yo azz as lunch?!?!

  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    lol

  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    lol

  • Being bad is way more fun

    How do you know that ? He could be a grower not a shower..

  • bemetoo

    lol true

  • Whirl

    Off topic- The Jeffrey Epstein case is arguably worse than R Kelly’s y’all got to read for yourself how lenient the US government was with him and then contrast it to the current R Kelly case. A federal judge just moved to unseal Trump’s buddy sex scandal case. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

  • Youcan’tbanmesucka

    Fat Eddie Jackson must be hanging around Trump making shat up to fit his narrative!

  • MsPam

    Where is the receipts?

  • Fire & Ice

    I heard bobby brown sh*ted his pants. Anybody know if that's true???

  • Justice For TM

    The jury can easily return an indictment on this but not on police officers and corrupt officials. Not guilty on all charges!! Btw, Not guilty does not have to equate to guilty. The government or law isn’t fair and never has been. Big deal. #NotGuilty it’s clear they are trying to divide and conquer

  • Blak

    He's still guilty of lying

  • Youcan’tbanmesucka

    Reminds me of the Katt skit. Tiger laying on the speaker.... wait for itttt this is not a drill ?

  • Justice For TM

    Big deal. He should get off

  • Panther Charleston

    I'm really confused now.

  • Sushi

    That is why I'm glad I work from home, with my baby right by me, until she get on my nerves. ...

  • Justice For TM

    They won’t indict police officers for brutality, excessive force or killing unarmed individuals, or corrupt government officials but this just “pisses them off” please. Smh . Not guilty. Let that man walk and take it as a lesson learned. No one got hurt but him

  • TamG

    Epstein is linked to Democrats too. Not really a point in trying to make it partisan. Perversion happens on all sides.

  • Renee Bee

    Oh? Lately, I have been seeing repeating angel numbers all over the place.
    This 3.14 interests me.
    http://media.riffsy.com/images/61456c75bda3cd6bde6db83a8bf9e148/tenor.gif

  • Truth7981

    Look I would take some Khar-Jenner mess over this.

  • Logan Roberts

    Here we go with Jussie & the Shaka Zulu brothers ?

  • http://welfareinfo.org angrysolo

    whatever. whatever what. ever.

  • Whirl

    If Clinton is involved then so be it- Let the chips fall where they may. You are absolutely right! This is NOT a partisan issue. I don’t know how chummy Weinstein and Oprah were but if she is connected in any way whatsoever let the chips fall where they may.

  • ALLSEDUCTRESS

    WAT HE DID WAS FOUL- BUT GIVE SOME OF THESE LYING CRACKAS A CHARGE FOR MAKING FALSE REPORTS- 16 FELONY CHARGES THE LACK OF EQUALITY N THEY SAY BLACKS COMPLAIN FOR NO REASON

  • Whirl

    Labor Secretary Acosta who was the District Attorney in the Jeffrey Epstein case is exhibit number one for rouge representations of the law.

  • Ms Thang

    ????nooooo

  • Dainese

    He paid them extra to say this too??

  • VernadineTheQueen?

    I don’t care about this story anymore. I have emotionally DETACHED! lol

  • Rahab

    They showed up late to Chance's wedding.

  • xxxgracious

    I saw that too...and my bestie was making excuses for Kim saying she got a lot of kids. I told her dumb@$$ Kim has nannies so what else you got. She was silent....
    Kim is so rude. She loves outshining the bride at any wedding. She had on that ugly green dress at 2 chainz wedding upstaging the bride. If I were a celebrity kim and kanye would NOT be attending any function I have.

  • bemetoo

    lol idk but there is a video of brandy

  • bemetoo

    oh you didnt see the video...shaderoom has it

  • Whirl

    “Epstein did not go to prison, but served 13 months in a private section of the Palm Beach County jail, where he was allowed to leave for 12 hours a day to go to his office in West Palm Beach under a work release program that is normally not granted to convicted sex offenders.” Keep this in mind as the R Kelly case unfolds. Time to get an up close and personal view of the inequity in our system of justice. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article227411649.html

  • Keekz

    Epstein is a demon,IMO.

  • Whirl

    There’s got to be a level worse than that of demon

  • Christopher Gibson

    I just have a question....why must the author of this blog always have to identify Jussie as “biracial “ and “openly homosexual “... we know both but must you point it out each and every time?!?

  • PlayerP

    Go to a GOOD shoe repair/cobbler...they can work magic. Never thought about it til a girlfriend hipped me

  • Sean

    When the story first came out, everybody had something negative to say about how he was hooking up with some random person and made up the story. Now that it looks like that maybe, just maybe, Jussie is telling the truth, the comments are full of people who don’t want to hear about the story. I just love the subjective black on black support we put out there.

  • dru and neil

    It really doesn’t look like he’s telling the truth, not to me at least.

  • dru and neil

    LMAO..

  • dru and neil

    To be honest I think the “personal training fees” is just another lie. This is going to sound nit picky to people who don’t train, but they hardly look like the kind of fitness gurus that have celebrity clientele. They look like two dudes who work out, nothing special. Do they have other clients is what I’m wondering.

  • Fire & Ice

    Chillllldddd I'm seriously trying to find out ???

  • Fire & Ice

    I heard she busted her ass ???

  • Christopher Gibson

    So true.

  • dontgetblocked

    LOL! Really? A grand jury says differently. 16 times over.

  • Fire & Ice

    That's what I heard from someone who went LOL.

  • Ghost

    Their lawyer was on GMA this morning she says there is PROOF that he set this hoax up..Yes, I believe he took advantage of their naive and eagerness to get ahead. He put training in the memo to cover his butt...They just didn't wake up take a UBER to his residence in BELOW zero weather @ 2am, beat him up, jump back in an UBER home...He's due back in court Thursday...he has RUINED his career ...smh

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    I am interested in knowing if these brothers have ever catfished
    anyone. I believe Jussie.

  • Well$$Well$$?

    I'm sorry but I still don't think he was telling the truth. Just because the check was for personal training doesn't mean he didn't lie about being attacked...And just being real the story was always..strange..Some men in negative degree weather waiting outside to attack people....Make it make sense...

  • Lia Washington

    I'm going to wait to see the end game...Not judging

  • wigmon68

    The story above is factually incorrect. the lawyer said the $3500 was for training and a "favor" with the favor being the fake attack.

  • wigmon68

    no need to be confused. the lawyer said the money was for training and a favor and she specified that the favor was the hoax.

  • dru and neil

    Well if somebody said it happened, they probably got a reason why, they must have smelled something.

  • hottlanta

    Kinna like Sponge Bob shaped skinny white jeans wearing John Gray and his wife going on The Real today saying he had an emotional affair. Kept talking about brokenness and trying to sound romantic. Everytime you get on top and make love to your wife she is in brokenness trying to breath and praying that you don't kill her with your fat azz, Cant take these two

    .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtTedJP9fvA&t=467s

  • dru and neil

    They are NOT personal trainers...

  • xxxgracious

    So sick of hearing about Jussie...If you really wanna punish him let him stay at my house with my three year old and new puppy. I'm debating on which one I'm going to put out first. The dog or my son...maybe both. I took the puppy to the groomers and she said you guys were just here a week ago I told her just call me in 4 hrs after he's done and told my dad to go get my son from school today. I needed some REST lol.

  • dru and neil

    Well if somebody said it happened, they probably got a reason why, they must have smelled something

  • wigmon68

    I felt like the press conference was necessary to refute the bs that jussie was spreading. If jussie doesn't play up the racist, homophobic victim card to tmz, gma and other news outlets, they probably keep the lid on most of the facts, but would have proceeded with the indictment because they have the goods.

  • dru and neil

    He shouldn’t have made up this dumb story to begin with, I mean, what’s wrong with him?

  • Truth7981

    Assholes

  • Eileen

    Wow the shade is super fierce ...LOL

  • Sean

    An indictment doesn't determine guilt or innocence. It simply says a group of people believe there is enough information for the prosecution to move forward. I'm not here to debate guilt or innocence. I simply wanted to point out how we as the African American community often say support our black kings and queens. Support doesn't mean look the other way if they're wrong. It means that we all go through things, make bad decisions, etc. We still all need to be loved through that. Instead, a lot of people pounced on Jussie and the story, created memes and made all the jokes that they could think of.

  • Chocolate

    Puppies are no joke...like a newborn on skates lol

  • Fire & Ice

    They said that he barely moved on the stage...hmmm probably why LOL

  • RaginB

    Why?

  • Mielle Downey

    They were on Camara in the vicinity of the hoax so no I don't believe Jussie. He made up this story and it was distasteful. If he said the Studio owners were racist at least that would have been a believable hate crime. But no his sweet behind had to be extra and stage a hate crime. Damn dummy you got tons of hate in the industry to pick from why make up shit that already existed?

  • Overpower Radio

    Rather than jumping to conclusions, look at the facts. It's clear THEY jumped him, but their reasons aren't. They said he paid them to do this as a hoax, the Chicago PD made a statement referring to the check as payment. Jussie later proves the check was a payment for training services. NOW, THEY ADMIT the check was for training services ......so where is the payment they got for the hoax??? If this was for training, this blows holes in the story that they got paid $3500 for the hoax and was gonna get $500 more when they got back from Africa? They been lying.

  • JENNYJONES1

    HMM THIS WAS REPORTED WEEKS AGO SO WHY IS IT A STORY AGAIN NOW............JENNY JONES!!!

  • Overpower Radio

    Whose lawyer? Cause Jussie itemized the amount. He detailed meal plans, training, and such that added up to the full amount of the check.

  • Overpower Radio

    I believe they're playing him. I'm thinking they really don't like him so much that they wanted to rough him up, or it was a chess move to get him to hire them as bodyguards. The more this goes on, the less I believed he staged this dumb shit.

  • Overpower Radio

    ...but they did do exactly what you said. What if they had another reason to do it other than the reason you think? We should look at it from all angles, including any possible angles that suggest Jussie was oblivious to the attack.

    I find it hard to believe he thought he needed to do this for publicity. He had so much going for him already. He dropped an openly gay R&B album, he's a main character on one of the most successful shows on prime time, and he has the lbgtq community behind him, including Ellen's platform. Why would he pay somebody to beat him up again?

  • Kay J

    Tell me why is the media still reporting on this topic?? The dust has settled so lets keep it pushin ???

  • Whirl

    There are private citizens who went on Twitter and was able to easily discover a homophonic comment by at least one of the brothers. With all the money that’s been invested in the Chicago Police Department no one did a free internet search before jumping all the way out there? Did tge CPD even bother to investigate the brothers given they admitted to doing the beating? That’s a possible motive for the beating- homophobia. Furthermore, did anyone possibly put the brothers up to to doing the beating as a result of Jussie’s very public anti Trump Twitter comments? These questions alone should have merited an investigation lasting more than three and a half weeks tops.

  • MsPam

    Thanks, I saw it she didn’t even try to play it off.??

  • Trey

    This is a non-story...the check clearly states "training'..why would it say "staged attack"

  • hottlanta

    Sick of these two internet attention whores.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs
  • wigmon68

    The brothers lawyer.

    Can you provide the details you reference because other than a couple of texts about what he was supposed to eat on a given day and that he was supposed to exercise 30 minutes the day of travel, I haven't seen what you are describing? When did the 5 week training begin? When was it supposed to end?

  • wigmon68

    The brothers lawyer.

    Can you provide the details you reference because other than a couple of texts about what he was supposed to eat on a given day and that he was supposed to exercise 30 minutes the day of travel, I haven't seen what you are describing? When did the 5 week training begin? When was it supposed to end?

  • wigmon68

    They are accused of entirely different crimes, are they not? Kelly is accused of kidnapping and detaining minors against their will. Not that what Epstein did wasn't sick, but what Kelly is accused of is an entirely different level of crime.

  • wigmon68

    They are accused of entirely different crimes, are they not? Kelly is accused of kidnapping and detaining minors against their will. Not that what Epstein did wasn't sick, but what Kelly is accused of is an entirely different level of crime.

  • Overpower Radio

    I've seen so many bits of information on this topic that I'm not sure where i saw it.

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  • StoneColdLady

    Nope “I” said he was lying then and he is still lying. How did they know he would be WALKING to Subway at 2:00 am? He thought these two men whom “he fought” with AND KNEW were white ?

  • wigmon68

    A statement from 6 years ago about not liking a gay singer is irrelevant.

    The police did not just take anyones word for it. They used texts, phone records, physical evidence, statements etc.

    IT was evident from the beginning that Jussie's story was a fabrication. Ain't know way 2 guys who allegedly hate blacks and gays would go to all the trouble of stalking a gay, black man in freezing cold temps at 2am, bringing bleach and a rope are going to leave him able to walk away with a scratch on his face. Then, after being terrorized in this manner and not knowing where the perpetrators went, the victim just strolls through the lobby past a security guard like nothing happened. A 5 year old has enough critical thinking skills to detect the BS.

  • StoneColdLady

    He should have thought of ALL of the people who ACTUALLY experienced the hateful acts he chose to lie about...

  • Indies beauty

    Plot twist...what if Jussie was telling the truth??? Its a slim chance but possible.

  • Ni Ni

    That check might have indeed been for training, but the rest of the story is still BS. I dont care one way or the other what happens.

  • Trace da Ace

    I'm just gonna wait for trial......when all of the details comes out...other than that...I gots nothing for Jussie this morning....

  • Rayscoty

    Boring now.....

  • StoneColdLady

    They probably did, but didn’t expect it to go as far as it did; capturing the attention of THE NATION

  • NewNew
  • SJ

    This!

  • SJ

    Itemization itself could be a cover up.

  • Whirl

    I’m with you

  • Panther Charleston

    Oh. Wigmon68, I swear I didn't get it until you put it like that. Thank you.

  • wigmon68

    I don't think anyone in the general public knows all the facts. They will come out at trial. There is nothing in Smolletts original story that seems believable.

    But I will give you some examples of some of the evidence documented. Abel provided a text from smollett on Jan 25th (three days before the "attack") about wanting to meet him to talk about something "on the low". Abel provided a specific location of the meeting, the conversation that took place about staging the attack, that they drove back to his place after the meeting to discuss it with his brother. Police were able to corroborate the travel of Smolletts vehicle that day through video and cell tower pings of Smolletts phone.

    There is also a phone record that smollett called Abel at 12:49am the morning of the "attack". His flight was originally scheduled to get in 4+ hours earlier. I guess the call at 12:49 am was to get his nutrition plan for the run to subway.

    The brothers were dropped off in the area of smolletts apartment at 1:22am. Smollett arrived at his appt from the airport around 1:30. The brothers walked around the area, eventually sitting down on a bench waiting for smollett to meet up with them.

    Later that day, there were 3 phone calls that took place between Smollett and Abel.

  • wigmon68

    The check wasn't for no training. The brothers were out of the country for 2 weeks.

  • Parent

    Those brothers are fine!!! Sexy chocolate you heard me!

    Hope something positive happens for them after this whole mess!

  • Parent

    lmao

  • ?? Kari ?????????

    Oh bs. Face it juicy, it’s all fake! If those guy would have really beat you up, you wouldn’t be walking and talking!

  • ?? Kari ?????????

    Those brothers would have done more to him than a scratch on the face.

  • Overpower Radio

    Could be? ..but is it? Everyone's ready to throw him under the bus and here it is, where the story was once that the check was for the hoax, now they're admitting it's for training.

  • Overpower Radio

    I'll patiently wait to see what happens, because on Jussie's behalf it's all been hearsay. They've also said one of the brothers was his plug, so they're no telling what "on the low" meant. Allegedly, the attack is something that was planned for weeks, so why was all the props purchased on the night of? What did they rehearse without the rope? Jussie was also adamant about not ever saying his attackers wore MAGA hats (during his interview with Robin) ...and this was all before we were exposed to video of the brothers buying red hats from the same place they bought the rope. Chicago PD seems to be working against Jussie, because just like the brothers' lawyers are saying Jussie "took advantage" of them, the Chicago PD called them "victims" ....whereas if this was a staged hoax, then the Nigerian brothers are accomplices that ratted him out. There are a lot of things ...too many things that are just off about this whole deal, and they only thing anybody can pin on Jussie is what the Nigerian brothers said. Other than their word, there's no evidence ...apparently not even a payment at this point.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Lies,lies and mo lies....so what did the grand jury indict Smollet on? The grand jury did not indict Smollet on a check written for weight training.

  • Ghost

    Because he is a narcissistic sociopath!

  • wigmon68

    Not sure what you mean by "it's all been hearsay". The bond proffer contains some of the evidence police have. You have 2 conflicting accounts. The question is, which one fits the other evidence. Much more damaging than the check is the fact that Jussie called Abel at 12:49am, about 30 minutes before they headed to his place, then called him 3 times later that day. Jussie hasn't said what those calls were about and tried to hide them from police. Abel has told police about the calls and what they discussed.

    Chicago PD seems to be working against Jussie because that is where the evidence and his statements have led them. They and the prosecutors have filed charges of a crime based on that evidence.

    ITs interesting you have an observation about the too many things that are off about this deal, but you didn't mention any of the inconsistencies in Jussies story. Why haven't you applied your critical thinking to that aspect?

  • Reina1718

    & the purchase of the masks & red hat were for?????

  • wigmon68

    Shortly after it was revealed that there was a check, a source "close to smollett" confirmed the existence of the $3500 payment. They said $600 a week was for training and $100 a week was for a nutrition plan. The check was post dated (according to Abel) to 1/23 and the earliest text of a diet plan was on 1/20 (eat chicken, tuna, eggs, peanut butter). If the training supposedly started on 1/20, the video he was allegedly training for was to be shot almost exactly 5 weeks from the date. The problem with that story is, if he was paying $600 a week for physical training, what was he paying for while the brothers were out of the country for 2 weeks? He surely wasn't paying $600 to have one of them text and say, "make sure you run 30 minutes today".

  • onelove

    this is getting messy

  • wigmon68

    The fact that he strolled through the lobby with his sandwich in hand and didn't want to call police is pretty much all I need to know that this attack was staged. Ain't no one gets randomly attacked and just walks past security guards without telling them what just happened less than a minute earlier. Then of course there is the GMA interview saying he "fought the f back" and hit one of the guys in the face. Its just laughable.

    Why would he pay someone to stage an attack? He's an activist, starving for attention and fame. He was making good money, but hardly anyone knew who this guy was before the attack. Its been reported that shortly after the attack, he was getting all kinds of offers for shows and appearances. Then of course there is the Trump hating social media posts and trying to pin the crime on white, racist , "MAGA country", homophobes when it turns out, the dudes were black and friends of his. He provided the reasons in his statements to police.

  • Overpower Radio

    I have. The easiest thing to do is to assume he staged it. I was with that theory until the Chicago PD's press conference. It's just came off as sketchy and inconsistent.

    Even the narrative that him calling them is damaging evidence against him. Why? He could have been talking to them about staging an attack or he could have been talking about LITERALLY anything else.

    Especially, when in the same narrative paints the picture of someone who Ron precaution in these regards to text "meet me on the low" as to not discuss plans by phone or text, AND told the brothers to meet him some place without their phones, BUT (as you say) called them on the night of the attack with his own cell phone to coordinate, AND wrote them a check.

    It just sounds too dumb.....and I can't say that he's not dumb, but all the so-called evidence wasn't evidence, when the Chicago PD claimed they had the brothers on a 48 hr hold and of they didn't "confess"in the 47th hour they would have had to let them go. That means all they really had on Jussie was the Nigerian's word against him.

    And they're saying this happened because a threatening letter didn't get more attention. Jussie could of put it on his Instagram and it would have gotten all the attention it was missing.

    It was a lame attack with too many holes in the story, and so far only one person's story remains the same.

  • SJ

    I know you believe your boy jussie to the fullest and you're trying to convince others. But I myself am not for the bull---t. Lies have come from everywhere in this case, but they started with jussie.

  • Overpower Radio

    I'm not one of his fans and stopped watching Empire a long long time ago. I'm just thinking objectively. The idea that he staged it, is (just as) plausible as the idea that he really didn't know who his attackers were at the time of the attack. Most people have an "opinion" that he staged it, but they don't have the proof. What's the truth? That's why I'm thinking so critically, and the truth is that everything people think they know about that night is ONLY what the Nigerians (the actual attackers) said. Phone records? Those are just time stamps of when calls were placed and how long they lasted. It's not an audio recording of the conversation (so we don't know what was said), and at this point there are no incriminating texts, just the speculation that a text saying I need to talk to you "on the low" was about this hoax. To me, that's not proof of guilt.

    I read he could face a maximum of 48 years in the way he's been charged for this crime. Before we even get to the part of how ridiculous that is, we need to be sure of his guilt. HE COULD HAVE STAGED IT, but I'm not sure. There's room for other possibilities.

  • Overpower Radio

    I agree, not calling 911 immediately after the attack is something to question. Him still wearing the rope "as evidence" 45 minutes after the attack was shady. The "Maga country" term sounded weird. It doesn't sound like a term that a MAGA supporter would use, and not in Chicago of all places. These are the reasons I believed he staged it. Like I said, the Chicago PD's press release and time line was shady enough to spark the "what if he didn't do this" thoughts in my head, and with that said I could imagine how these events could play out with him being innocent.

    If you think objectively, and ask "who would walk past security after being attacked?"

    A celebrity who wasn't in immediate danger, nor hurt that bad to begin with, who knew that once he reported it - it would be publicized, so he took his time to decide if he was even going to report it, called his manager asking their advice about it BEFORE he actually called the cops ...and left the rope around his neck the whole time, thinking if he did report it, it should remain there as evidence for the police to witness.

    We know he has character flaws ....all that "I'm the gay TuPac.", "I fought tf back" bs was lame. He didn't suffer 2Pac level injuries, but does his phony narcissistic way of reacting to the event in the media mean that he staged it? No, not necessarily.

    His attackers COULD HAVE done all of this on their own, and IF THEY DID, Jussie could face up to 48 years for staging an attack he didn't stage.

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  • wigmon68

    Not sure I follow. He is a celebrity. He had no idea he wasn't in immediate danger (he told police he didn't know where the attackers went). any guy/girl that was just surprised and had the described attack happen to them is going to be sprinting into that lobby and thanking their lucky stars they made it their alive.

  • wigmon68

    I don;t think he planned to call them the night of the attack. Recall that the brothers said a time had already been set for 10pm which would match the time his flight was scheduled to arrive. The problem occurred when his plane was 4 hours late. you just think its a coincidence that he called them right after his plane landed, at 12;49? That call was required if he wanted the "attack' to occur before they left town for 2 weeks. a stroke of luck, caused him to get sloppy.

    I do think much of the case is circumstantial. But, when you have a case where 2 people say one thing and the other person says something else, the circumstantial evidence determines the outcome. I don't know of any circumstantial evidence that breaks smolletts way. The things the brothers have said have all appeared to check out.

  • Look@m3

    Nah not when you have been indicted. I'm pretty sure the prosecutor doesn't have time to go to court just because he is a celebrity....the DA has other cases to focus on. If he indicted they have enough evidence against him to prove he is guilty already so no plot twist. It is what it is....

  • Indies beauty

    Im with you. He's guilty IMO, but crazier things have hapoened.

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    So what about the other ck he wrote so they can say the first ck is for training? These dudes need to stop they know they went in that box and sang like birds! Jussie trying to do everything he can to keep that backside from getting brutally mangled in prison

  • pika12

    I'm not surprised. I think the police were way too eager to divulge details to the media on an ongoing investigation. Why would anyone with half a brain write a check from their personal bank account to pay for a crime? Wouldn't they just pay cash so it wouldn't be easily traced back to them? First people were too quick to believe Jussie was really attacked and when that became questionable, then some of those same people made the same mistake by quickly jumping all the way to the other side and fully accepting the brothers' version of the incident. The so-called evidence is mainly just a recount of the brothers' story. They did it so of course they would be able to provide specific details. But whether or not Smollet hired them to do so remains to be proven. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle or even elsewhere. I guess we'll see.

  • pika12

    I only know of one check for $3500, have seen or heard anything about a second check. Are you sure?

  • pika12

    A grand jury will indict almost anyone. Thank goodness that only means that a case goes to trial.

  • pika12

    Why would anyone with half a brain write a check from their personal bank account to pay for a crime? Wouldn't they just pay cash so it wouldn't be easily traced back to them?

  • pika12

    Thank you! At least someone is willing to give the situation some thought before just accepting the brothers' version of the story before all of the evidence is developed. The police were too busy holding a press conference and going on a media tour so that they could divulge details of an ongoing investigation. Makes no sense.

  • pika12

    None of that proves Smollet paid for or staged the attack in my opinion. He could have looked around for a camera right after the attack, hoping that the incident was recording. Cameras are every in public now a days. If I were ever attacked, if still conscious, I would try to take note of the location of a camera that may have captured it. As for the texts, phone calls, and meeting, we have no clue as to whether any of it was related to the attack and/or whether or not Smollet knew that the brothers were planning the attack; along those lines, the brothers could have possibly staged communication surrounding the attack as well.

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    Lol! Naw I was just saying he prob paid them to go back to the media and rebuke the first ck

  • pika12

    Okay, I get it now.

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  • Spazzy Jeff

    Jussie aint lying ya'll! He may be caught up in some freaky leaky sex triangle, but he ain't lying. Everyone so quick to believe the lies.

  • Queen B

    Okay, these brothers didn't attack him so who tf did it?

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  • wigmon68

    There are 2 opposing stories. Witness testimony is evidence. Who the judge/jury believes will focus on the events that occurred. The fact that what they told police checks out and that Smollett contacted them about 30 minutes before they were dropped off in the area of his apartment and constantly communicated with them after the incident is relevant. I agree that is not proof in and of itself, but clearly gives more weight to the brothers version of events.

    And I think you are reaching to suggest that seconds after a "brutal beating" a victim is going to look to see if a camera caught the action, but wouldn't bother to tell the security guards or call police immediately. I mean how do you connect the belief about immediately looking to see if a camera caught the attack with his statement that he didn't want to call police? The attackers weren't white. They weren't racist. They weren't Trump supporters. There is almost nothing that Jussie has said about these events that has been supported by evidence. The dude was raised to be an activist in the mindset that the truth doesn't matter, only the desired result and thats exactly what this story is about.

  • pika12

    First, I didn't say it wasn't evidence. Of course testimony is a form of evidence. While there is some evidence against him, I just haven't seen proof beyond a reasonable doubt yet, IN MY OPINION. So if I were a juror, I'd vote not guilty at this point. I'll have to wait to see what other evidence comes out at trial to see if that vote stands. As for looking for a camera vs not wanting to call the police, I would imagine that mixed feelings goes through a person's mind after being attacked a person would probably have a rush of conflicting thoughts which may or may not lead to the right decisions. As for the attackers, they could have been disguised or sufficiently covered at the time. Or of course, Smollet may have staged the whole thing just as the brothers claim. I'm just considering both sides. Bottom line, this could go either way for me at this point. To be continued.

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  • wigmon68

    Would you agree that only 2 possibilities exist? Either smollett planned the attack, or the brothers attacked him without him knowing? I can't really think of any other possibility. Based on the evidence collected, which story has been supported and which side has been more truthful?

  • pika12

    Those are the only two possibilities that I can think of so far, so at this point I would agree. I don't feel that either possibility has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt although there is some evidence on both sides. I really don't have an opinion as to which side has the most support. I'll have to wait to see what evidence comes out during the trial. There's Smollet's statements vs. the brothers' statements at this point. In my opinion, the evidence that he knew is weak. But it's clear that they did attack him.

  • wigmon68

    I think its entirely fair to reserve an opinion until all the evidence has been presented. I've begun to form an opinion based on the evidence presented (statements made by both sides, phone records, text records, actions taken, etc.), but clearly we don't have all of the available evidence yet, so that opinion could be changed.

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  • pika12

    I've considered all of those things as well but I just don't find the evidence to be very persuasive on either side. The statements are one side vs the other; he said vs. he and he said. It's two against one though, so that might help the brothers. Just depends on who comes across as credible during questioning at the trial. The jury will have to make that call.

    As for the text and phone records revealed thus far, if the content of the text messages was more relevant or revealing or if the phone calls were transcribed or recorded they would hold more weight in supporting one of the two sides of the story in my opinion. The fact that he communicated with the brothers about some unknown topic around the time of the attack does little to prove that he knew they attacked him. They were acquaintances, maybe they had frequent communications regardless. I'm on the fence on this one and could be swayed either way, based on how the evidence turns out. Sounds like we both at least have an open mind. We'll see.

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