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Unsealed court documents reveal actor Will Smith, right, was concerned that loaning actor Duane Martin $1.4 million would cause a public relations nightmare for himself and his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.

Will, 50, and Duane, 53, have been close friends for over 2 decades. But when Duane asked his longtime friend for a $1.4 million loan to save his home, Will hesitated to loan his friend the cash. The money wasn't the issue - Will could certainly afford the loan.

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According to The Blast, Will worried that his association with the $1.4 million loan would turn into a "PR nightmare."

Newly unsealed documents including emails and text messages show the actor and his team feared the worst if the loan was made public.

Text messages exchanged between the two men reveal Duane increased his demands for the money. Duane pressured his friend to give him the loan and even had to be warned by Will's legal team to back off.

Will's team told Duane that the A-list actor wanted to help, but he didn't want to put himself in any unnecessary risk.

Like a good husband, Will informed his wife, actress Jada Pinkett Smith, of Duane's demand for the money.

Jada, pictured at right with the Campbells, possibly helped Will to overcome his reluctance to help out a friend.

According to The Blast, private emails show Will directing his team to wrap up all outstanding issues with Duane. He wrote one of his advisors, “The point is to SIMULTANEOUSLY Get the books cleared while Helping Shake transition."

"Shake" was Will's codename for Duane.

But Will's team expressed concerns over how Duane wanted the loan structured. Will's team worried about the "questionable structure of the transaction."

The reason for their concern was Duane and his now ex-wife, Tisha Campbell-Martin, needed the cash to purchase their home thorough a LLC because they didn't want to list the house as an asset in a bankruptcy filing. But documents reveal Tisha rolled over on Duane, telling the bankruptcy trustee he hid the house from the court.

The trustee then sued Duane, demanding he turn over all documents related to the mansion sale, including who paid him the money to purchase the home from the bank.

In February, court documents revealed Will Smith was subpoenaed to turn over financial records, text messages and emails related to the $1.4 million loan.

The bankruptcy trustee alleges that Duane and Tisha set up Roxe LLC to allegedly conceal ownership of their 9,000 sq ft mansion in Chatsworth, California. They originally bought the home in 2006 for $900,000. Duane then borrowed $1.9 million from a bank using the house as collateral.

But when Duane defaulted on the bank loan he negotiated a short sale, and used the $1.4 million loan from Will and Jada to buy back the house from the bank.

The trustee alleges the couple entered into a lease agreement to pay their own company $5,000 a month rent. But the trustee says the lease was a fraud and the couple never paid any rent to the LLC.

In early 2018, Duane listed the home for $2,695,000 with the intention of pocketing the sales proceeds after paying back Will and Jada their $1.4 million.

The trustee's lawsuit demands Duane be forced to turn over the home to the bankruptcy estate to be sold to pay back other creditors.

Photos by Johnny Nunez/WireImage, Kevin Winter/Getty Images, Dimitri Halkidis / WENN, David Livingston / WENN, Brian McEvoy / WENN, Fabrizio Picco/WENN

  • Gamer?? Chick
  • Coy little wink

    How could Duane demand anything from Will....

    Or am I reading between the lines here ?

  • MJF

    Wait what? So these celebs be out here broke, broke!

  • Gamer?? Chick

    Lending to friends and some family causes chaos I tell ya.

  • Gamer?? Chick

    BOL!

  • Trace da Ace

    well...first off...THIS (and other reasons) are why you NEVER deal with friends and finances......and it was never a "loan" cause how could he EVER pay Will back????

    oh..and HEEYYYYYYY WILLL......I see you boo!! *muah*

  • Yoni7

    Duane looks like he smells something stank.
    I hope he can get back on his feet.

  • Yoni7

    Give without remembering.
    Receive without forgetting.

  • Dee

    Very slow news months?

  • Topic Influencer

    Duane got the goods on his ass and this was hush money. Duane said he is tired of being long suffering. Nicknamed SHAKE. Like wtf? This screams homosexual in nature. But Imma let them live. Will and his team to Duane...

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/1zgOyLCRxCmV5G3GFZ/giphy.gif

  • Topic Influencer

    Im making time.

  • Topic Influencer

    Post your chocolate factory gif

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I wish I had friends like Will and Jada.

  • Yoni7

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/h6ghOHmbWV81G/giphy.gif
    Oh it's one of THESE type situations, huh sis?

  • Topic Influencer

    Autocorrect. Still Snake. Shake. Its all very suspect.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    You're not reading deeply enough between the lines. ?

  • Topic Influencer

    Yes. A code 10 one

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Give love never loans... they will eff a friendship UPPP!! If I give a "loan" I already count it as gone gone.. If they pay it back Im surprised..if they don't I won't be hurt either..

  • Trey

    broke...broke....broke

  • Topic Influencer

    His milkSHAKE brings all the boys to the yard. https://media2.giphy.com/media/i9ACy9Sh7PSik/giphy.gif

  • Yoni7
  • Gamer?? Chick

    Well they do seem like they are very generous with their family and friends.

  • Gamer?? Chick

    LOL

  • Coy little wink

    ? auntie don't come for me hun cause i got time...

  • Topic Influencer

    How could Duane demand anything from Will....
    ^^^^
    Same way his sister wife Jada came up the rear (no pun intended. Well okay) and made sure Shake Em Up Shake Em Up Shake Em had what he needed. https://media1.giphy.com/media/nuzQxFyKAVoRi/giphy.gif

  • 100milesperhour

    Duane & Tisha sound like 2 crooks w/poor money management. She’s been on tv/movies steadily since the 80’s. Wtf? She’s probably the character she played on “All of Us”, the dead beat sister always needing cash.

  • Yoni7

    What gets me is......when they ask for it, with an agreement to pay it back. But they doing everything else like trips, nails, hair, eating out, new clothes, bags, shoes, hair on 'fleek'......instead of running you yo' ends. I done had that happen to me. Now yo ass back to square one. https://media2.giphy.com/media/1gUWdf8Z8HCxpM8cUR/giphy.gif

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    His name was shake on husbands of Hollywood! Which meant scammer ont the show! Looks like Will knew in real life he was with the s*hit

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    A mess. I don’t loan out money anymore. it’ll ruin the relationship you have. When folks owe you money, they’ll act indignant as if you’re the one with the problem. I learned not to deal with folks that are always in financial straits-they stay broke for a reason.

  • Coy little wink

    The plot thickens...so did Jada and Tisha get to ?

  • Tee Tee

    Yep. You and I probably have more savings than most celebs. How do I have the deed to my house yet Tisha and Duane have been working for decades still paying a mortgage? Hell took me and my husband 12 years of saving to buy our house?????
    Chile they ALL living beyond their means smh

  • Topic Influencer

    Since the 70s. She been working since she was FIVE years old. And aint got shit to show for it.

  • Yoni7

    Sandra I KNOW you photoshopped that popcorn in Duane's hand. He ain't holding it right.

  • Tee Tee

    Why was he "demanding" money like an angry side chick?
    This is gonna be messy as hell?????
    Tisha wrong for snitching tho

  • Seldomseen

    Whew chile.....messy messy messy

  • Topic Influencer

    I think this wasnt a friendship type of loan. It was a loan between two ummm life partners? Not sure what to call em.

  • bemetoo

    I blame Gina if she didn’t tell them about the home in the LLC none of this would be happening

  • Topic Influencer
  • Seldomseen

    That is the truth, I don’t deal with people and money anymore period. Gal you changed your name?

  • iWasteTime

    Looks like he had every right to be worried and Tisha was wrong for that.

  • iWasteTime

    Speaking of loans, did that white man pay Fofty (lol) his 750K?

  • Keyshia Ray

    Messy....

  • Blaque Mahogany

    This is the dumbest scheme ever. They created an LLC, used the LLC to purchase the home they previously defaulted on, then they set up a fake rental agreement. And they thought that set up would be too complicated for a forensic accountant to figure out.

    This is exactly why Will didn't want to loan them any money.

    P.S. I wonder of Duane and Tisha get high. This is a crackhead scheme.

  • Chulita

    Don’t ever loan a friend money! It ruins everything....

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Will Smith, right, was concerned that loaning actor Duane Martin $1.4 million would cause a public relations nightmare for himself and his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
    ____________
    Nah you should've been worried about the balcony pics from Brazil a few years ago. Granted we know yall have been tag teaming for many years anyway. Jada just had a spiritual marriage with August and bought him a Bentley. Now he's losing his damn mind again. Sandy can we get the real tea on the Smith's chile

  • Trace da Ace

    after seeing this gif....i....just...canna.....make it stop!! lol

  • Dowoop

    That was all I kept seeing

  • Coy little wink

    They must be on coke. Where did their money go in the first place?

  • Seldomseen

    Definitely something fishy. If you ask me for money ,you gone get how I give it! You ain’t gone be talking about cashapp 15, and fly a eagle for the other 20. GTFOH

  • Topic Influencer

    Why was he "demanding" money like an angry side chick?
    ^^^^^^
    Bc he tired of being a (horribly kept) secret. he is an angry side chick. https://media1.giphy.com/media/Eqc8s9Hxs2sODqbvzV/giphy.gif

  • Yoni7

    At this point, folks can't ask me for NOTHIN'......literally!
    Them: Yoni, can you loan me nothin'?
    Me: I ain't eein got it right now. I'm fukked up too.

  • Trace da Ace

    soooo....it could have been a swap of the spouses??....awww man.......awww man.....maannn....

  • Yoni7

    Lissen!

  • Seldomseen

    ?????

  • Logan Roberts

    "How y'all doing" *in my Wendy Williams voice * ????

  • Trace da Ace

    chile!!!! Hell my fam be asking me to borrow money....I give them the "evil-side-eye-we-got-4-kids-beoch" look...then they be like...."oh nevermind then".....

  • Chaseboogie The Prince

    Messy.

  • Yoni7

    I kept tilting my head and squinting and scowling and smh like "dis don't look right."

  • T Willis

    ?

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    Lolol yup! Winter came to Winterfell last night in Game of Thrones.

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    Amen!

  • Phillybruh

    It was actually not a bad Idea until Tisha wanted the house sold, she got real petty and vindictive in this divorce.

  • Seldomseen

    OK

  • Phillybruh

    Got a whole Martin settlement.

  • joel adams

    Sometimes it’s just best to start over and go through the process of building your family back up. Easier said than done when your back is up against the wall (in this case, sheet rock)

  • Yoni7

    Tell the truth! Even when you try to teach financial literacy, they still won't accept it.

  • T Willis

    Lol what money? I’m surprised they could afford a $900k house in 2006. Tisha has been carrying their families (spouse+siblings+parents+kids) for 20+ years, and while living in Cali too? I’m not surprised that they’re broke, but, I did expect better financial savvy since they’ve both been working since the 80s.

  • Yoni7

    It was requested. LOL

  • Coy little wink

    Duane looks constipated in the top pic...hilarious

  • Topic Influencer

    It coulda been all of them in the bed together for all we know. Its just supposedly allegedly maybe speculation

  • T Willis

    ???? man 50 needs his own reality show. I legit would watch and I don’t give f*cccck about reality shows ?... but his petty be on ? omg ... from T.Mari to this Randall dude, I can’t stop crying laughing at his IG posts

  • Trace da Ace

    he looks like somebody farted....lol

  • Coy little wink

    She got a settlement from Martin. Plus royalties. My wife and kids. House party. Boomerang. She's been working non stop...should have been able to buy a house and keep up with mortgage payments...

  • Seldomseen

    No in that first pic, it looks like Duane gotta be the bottom and Will gonna be the top.

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    !!!! Right! I told my cousin that I would sit down with her to create a budget bc she needed money every dang month. The day came to create the budget and she canceled our meeting. Stay broke and continue begging folks then. When folks ask me for money now I look up part time jobs on indeed and craigslist and send them the link.

  • Logan Roberts

    Duane favors Freddie Jackson ?

  • Trace da Ace

    the finger motion tho....lmao....the stick and twist action....lmao!!!!!

  • Judi Jupiter

    So I just loaned my friend of 32 years $2k to finally move from NY to VA. I didnt sign a promissory note with her, and told her pay it back within the year. I ONLY did this because even her struggling to raise 4 kids and put them in private school and living with her momma all her life, she has NEVER asked me for a dime. Within the first two weeks I got half of it back... but now its 6 mos later,
    and she's trying to catch up a bit and I dont know when I'll see my money... the good thing is she knows she owes me and wont let me forget it... but can I at least get $250, I'm just sayin..lol

  • Seldomseen

    He sholly do

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    You know what...

  • Chhzz

    now that's a friend!
    Bros 4life!

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    Good luck!

  • onelove

    lol

  • T Willis

    That’s cause she’s been sponsoring all her siblings, parents, spouse, and then their children... at least one of which has special needs. Plus black actresses don’t get paid on the same scale as yt actresses... especially before the 2000s... which is when the bulk of her money/high demand was at its peak. I just wished she had gotten some financial advice from Will + Jada instead of mooching off of them.

  • onelove

    I'm GOOD! sitting here at work eating my Vegan Lunch!!

  • Judi Jupiter

    Yesss.... I live my pettiness through 50... his IG makes my day...

  • Yoni7

    My borrower will be starting at my current part time gig in about a week or so. TUH!

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    ???? have them sign their checks over to you.

  • Yup, I said it

    Everything Gina touches goes to hell. She destroyed the show Martin. Now she's sinking this ship. Idk if she is just unlucky or spiteful.

  • Topic Influencer

    Tisha was perfectly fine until Duane happened along. I think the bulk of the mismgmt is him. I think she just blindly trusted him and by the time she started asking questions and paying attention the damage was done.

  • T Willis

    Lol I think they refinanced it sometime within the last 10 years lol but yeah, it’s still crazy

  • Seldomseen

    That’s a good one

  • Topic Influencer

    She got 4 kids. You will get the rest within still the year. Next year at tax time she got you. So Feb/March. She will meet her deadline. Im confident she will.

  • Yoni7

    I pray that 2019 is still holding onto ole Freddie!

  • Judi Jupiter

    Yeah, I have faith in her, but I didnt even get tax return $$$...even though I watch enough Judge Mathis to know that wasn't going to happen anyway...lol.. I'm taking the positive approach saying to myself, if she gave it back now, I'd blow it all anyway, so I can wait a bit...

  • Yoni7

    Oh, I got MY coins back. What's funny is, I do my part time for fun. It's my SHE money. LOL

  • WhoKnew

    His back is up against the wall? His or Wills or both?

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    You are so nice.

  • Judi Jupiter

    Me too... she hates borrowing money from people so she never does it. It took her three conversations just to ask.

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    They never follow through bc they still beg.

  • Logan Roberts

    Lol. That's not what I meant, but hey ?

  • GAPeach

    I've been watching reruns of Martin all week on VH1 (I think). Tisha is funny as hell. She definitely is a talent. Fugg her old consistently unemployed husband.

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    Love that!

  • luVn_liFe…

    YES HE DOES!!

  • Guest

    My Auntie always says "Don't lend/loan no Scared Money"

  • T Willis

    How do we know she’s getting royalties for any of those films? And boomerang? Lmao that little 5-7 minute cameo? I don’t think so... ?... Tisha definitely made money, but I don’t think it was a lot. And any settlements for Martin would have been in the late 90s... and the write up says they purchased their $900k house in 2006... and then refinanced for $1.9 million... I just think their creditors outweighed whatever change Tisha was bringing in. Then, when you got fam that’s dependent on you, with a broke husband... I can see how things got bad.

  • Yoni7

    *slides in next to you....* What is it? https://media2.giphy.com/media/GHGF7hGQjCKbu/giphy.gif

  • Kim’s Original Face

    Messy messy

    Live within your means!

    This is going to get even messier

    Was he asking for spousal support from tisha?

  • http://www.findyournichewithme.com Low E. 30BELOW

    $80 ONCE UPON A TIME...HELPING A FRIEND WITH 2 JOBS BUY HER BOOKS. SHE HAD BILLS THAT I DIDN'T HAVE AND $80 FROM MY REFUND CHECK WASN'T HURTING ME...I WAS PREGNANT THO. ONLY ASKED FOR HALF BACK. HOMEGIRL GAVE ME $20 AND TOLD ME SHE WASN'T GIVING ME A DIME MORE.

    BE NICE, BUT DON'T GET OVERRUN.

  • MSGREENMINUSTHEENVY
  • Renee Bee

    The love of money is the root of all evil.

  • Coy little wink

    I'm speculating just like you. I bought my house at 25 I still have it...but I'm just a regular person...

  • Judi Jupiter

    Damn...that's sorry as hell...

  • joel adams

    I didn’t want to picture that LMAO

  • GAPeach

    My neighbor borrowed $20 and it took her 3 months to pay it back. She kept saying, "girl I'm gonna get you your $20, I'm just going through shit". If I needed it I would have never lent it to her. I wasn't even asking. I guess it was guilt.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    yasss he has done more for Duane than Duane has done for himself chile. Even gave and financed a show for him and he couldn't carry that either. Now he's having a bytch fit. Daune should write a letter...

  • T Willis

    I agree. I remember Tisha saying that she didn’t even buy a new car until like the 2nd or 3rd season of Martin. It seems like she was at least financially responsible. Duane f*cked everything up lol.

  • MSGREENMINUSTHEENVY

    i am sorry that happened to you.
    I still would've got her jumped by a bunch squirrels and sewer rats.
    Look bit$h don't be a heffa when you owe me!

  • joel adams

    Why come Will and Jada just them stay in they pool house? Or on the side of the house where Jada film red table?

  • MSGREENMINUSTHEENVY

    I am glad you had a friend who knew they could ask you and be respectful of your money.
    It's hard to ask when you don't have it but don't want someone else to feel like they don't have it either.
    you're great @Peejay127:disqus

  • Yoni7

    When I've loaned it out (because folks will try and get over on you). I make it clear....I don't want to see you or yo kid's gaining weight. They bet not have no haircuts or hair done. No new nothin'.......til I get MINE first!

  • Seldomseen

    We losing so many

  • GAPeach
  • http://www.findyournichewithme.com Low E. 30BELOW

    SHE WAS ONE OF THOSE FRIENDS I NEEDED TO LOSE BEFORE HAVING MY BABY...IT IS WHAT IT IS! OR WAS -SHRUGS-

  • Seldomseen

    Did we get an open post today?

  • Yoni7

    He been hanging on for a long while. He wasn't looking too spry a few months ago. I pray he's back in good health and spirits.

  • T Willis

    Lol yeah but I’m just speculating that your house didn’t cost $900k, and you weren’t carrying 2-3 sisters, your parents, a broke/out of work husband, and a son that has autism. All awhile being underpaid as a moderately successful black actress, living in California. I remember seeing and hearing about Tisha, and the sacrifices she’s made... it’s a shame that this is what her situation boils down to.

  • WhoKnew

    Not a crackhead scheme? LOL. Sounds more like a quarterback sneak.

    Duane: Okay, Imma take a snap down the center. Then Tisha you use your big ass head to dive ahead and block for me, then imma pretend I'm the O line and surge ahead and sneak in and boom we create the LLC and hide some shyt. Dumb AF on their part.

  • Navybeans95

    I stopped reading because I don't care enough ...but why can't Duane get some work instead of a loan??...will needs to make a movie and he needs to get to acting...I don't loan friends money...too murch headache...?

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Oh My God...you're like a horrible loan shark...
    I don't borrow money though. I will go without first.

  • Renee Bee

    Ummm.. I was like who in the heck is this now?
    I can't keep up. Lol.

  • Coy little wink

    My initial comment was where did the money go. So you are saying it was not drugs but she poorly managed her money and was underpaid...

    Interesting

  • WhoKnew

    That's because he is an angry side chick.

  • that_VA_thickchick

    Thank you for quoting this correctly. People are always saying money is the root of all evil. It's not. It's the LOVE of money. https://media1.giphy.com/media/l52CGyJ4LZPa0/giphy.gif

  • Mz_Opinionated

    I read somewhere someone said their grandmother said "If the bank ain't going to loan you the money", why should I? I've co-signed car loans for a friend who in turn ruined my credit at that time and gave an ex boyfriend hundreds of dollars...almost a 1000.00 and never returned one penny...Never give money you aren't prepared to lose. That's the truth.

  • Yoni7

    Loan shark???!! Shiiiiddd, I don't have to "loan" it in the first place. LOL
    I don't borrow either (Almighty bless). And like you......I WILL go without first with no problem.

  • Nina Ross

    So they didn’t list Will & Jada as one of their creditors? They need to amend that bankruptcy filing so that Will & jada are compensated if they’re forced to sell the house, smdh

  • Coy little wink

    My friend lent me 5k I paid her back. That's a real friend and I'm forever grateful...

  • WhoKnew

    Do tell more between the lines....

  • Seldomseen

    Good for yall????????

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Y'all are crazy on this site ? ? It's tough out here in these streets.

  • Coy little wink

    Will should have just bought the house and sold it to them under land contract. Or rented it to them until they could purchase...hello

  • WhoKnew

    This is the kind of shiggity that happens when you have an open marriage. It sounds like Duane was putting an "or else" demand on Will to come thru or else I'll talk. If you notice from the story Will apparently told his team to take certain actions to get the loan paid out and it's like he wasn't even in communication with Duane anymore like they were still...arum...boys and friends. ION.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Freddie Jackson?! Okay...so you know he lost a ton of weight...so we talking "old" Freddie or "newer" Freddie ?

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    let me find out Duane is a scrub... bruh! https://media3.giphy.com/media/DyvyiFFXF1Yli/giphy.gif

  • Kanyade
  • Yoni7

    I've co-signed car loans for a friend who in turn ruined my credit
    ________________________
    SHIIIIIDDDD!!!! Couldn't/wouldn't be me. Depending on the person, I will loan up to 2 to 300. DASSIT! And when they want to pay half or less than the agreed upon back. I say what grandma says...."You can't go to the grocery store and tell them you only got this much to give'em when they finish ringing up your stuff."

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Log off darling...

  • Kanyade
  • T Willis

    My initial reply was, she never had a lot of money to begin with lol. If you look at the black actors during the 80s and 90s a lot of them were poorly managed and were paid significantly less than their yt counterparts. I highly doubt Tisha had a drug problem (it would have came out in their divorce), I just think the responsibilities to her family, poor money management, living in an expensive city, and health problems is why she’s broke.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    ??? Don't talk to me the remainder of the day!

  • that_VA_thickchick

    Shake and Will look like a cute couple in that popcorn pic. https://media3.giphy.com/media/l49JQIushQig2JHcQ/giphy.gif

  • Yoni7

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    ewww, yuck!

  • Renee Bee

    You're welcome, sis.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    logout ma'am.

  • Kanyade

    if it is a large amount, such as some thousands up into the hunnid thousands or even a cool mil (like i got that---i don't), we going to the bank together. i'll help you with the loan, but i'm not giving you the loan. fiscal responsibility and whatnot. https://media3.giphy.com/media/5aYfKg7I10JqPbRudO/giphy.gif

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    i'm so tied of yew... LMAO!!!

  • Seldomseen

    Lol

  • TheNightKingWearsPressOns

    Lolol

  • Kanyade

    “Money doesn't mind if we say it's evil, it goes from strength to
    strength. It's a fiction, an addiction, and a tacit conspiracy.” --- Martin Amis

  • http://www.findyournichewithme.com Low E. 30BELOW

    TWAS...BUT I GREW FROM IT!

  • Yoni7

    I need to. I ain't did NOTHIN' at the plantation today. My feet are cold because I forgot to put on stockings.

  • that_VA_thickchick

    This isn't wrong either. I was speaking of the scripture that people quote incorrectly. Not necessarily the subject in and of itself.

  • MsChocolate

    LOL !!

  • KneeSee

    It's a shame that their relationship is probably gonna end because of this messy situation. I think Will was co-owner of their Xen Lounge too. Did they also lose that?

  • 2gr8ful

    This was almost like a pyramid scheme.. they never used any of their money but everyone’s money, appearing to be generating income when in fact creating a hustle (LLC) for themselves while moving people’s $ around the circle. What may really get them is concealing those assets bankruptcy courts don’t play with that nonsense. I hope they didn’t file taxes for that fake LLC ?.

  • Karen Brady

    Wait.. hold up. Someone explain this to me nice and sloooowwwwwwwww… Also, Shake was what they called him on Real Husbands of Hollywood or whatever that funny azz, stupid show was called.

  • Karen Brady

    Almost adorable I was thinking.

  • Karen Brady

    lol

  • MsChocolate
  • Karen Brady

    "Live within your means!"

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Yup. Clearly they were having money problems. Even if I was very rich, I wouldn't be lending that kind of money to somebody who clearly is having some financial issues.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    So he lent $1.4 million to someone going through bankruptcy? Doesn't sound smart to me.

  • SoChlo

    Rich people problems.

  • Karen Brady

    LMAOOOOOOOO

  • Notatall

    Lol!!!

  • Karen Brady

    This right here - "My initial reply was, she never had a lot of money to begin with lol. If you look at the black actors during the 80s and 90s a lot of them were poorly managed and were paid significantly less than their yt counterparts."

  • Karen Brady

    lol

  • Notatall

    That's why I'm lending only 5 dollars or less...that's all I can afford to lose.

  • Karen Brady

    *chuckles*

  • Yoni7

    She'll give it back. She hasn't forgotten. It's coming. Don't stress it.

  • Let them eat cake

    My cousin whom i was very close to (or i thought) GAVE me money for my rent because i was really struggling. We always had a great relationship, and I have NEVER asked her for anything but i really needed help, so i asked her to loan me rent money. I promise, she told me it was a gift and said that i never ask her for anything and that i dont have to pay her back but in my mind i was going to give her the money back anyway. Fast forward just ONE MONTH later and she deleted me from instagram and was ignoring my texts/etc. She only responded to me later because i was trying to get in touch with her through her mom and sisters because i didnt know why she had deleted me etc... later my cousin then sends me a long private message about how i "used her" and she was belittling me and making all types of insults. its was like she was a totally different person. she then blocked me i didn't even have time to respond to her. To this day i can't believe how she behaved. I have her money now and im going to try to get to her house and give it to her since she blocked me by phone and social media but i honestly want nothing to do with her after this. i was so hurt.

  • Ebony Starr

    I loaned a "friend" a grand and when I asked for it back after she never mentioned it, she said I have it to you. Remember I said here's your thousand.

  • Joy King

    Will Smith seems like a good dude that a lot of people try to take advantage of. Maybe that's why Jada comes off as a bit icy to me, she's always trying to protect her husband.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    oh!
    *tries to bum lyft money on my way out*

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Wow...People can show you who they really truly are when you are in need. I am sorry to hear that. Hopefully, she will apologize. But her behavior seems "shady". Why say something is a gift if you are going to throw it back in someone's face and then treat them nastily? I don't like that...it's not very nice.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    ? What did I say earlier?!

  • Mz_Opinionated

    I hear you...People don't mean to take advantage. I don't think so...it kind of just happens that they cannot pay you back I think.

  • Yoni7

    I would have given that money back (gift or not) as SOON as it hit my hands. WHY? Because of things like this. I don't want to feel like I OWE anybody anything. Specially so that they can hang it over my head/throw it up in my face. NO SIR/MA'AM! It's HARD for me to accept things from folks. Because you never know how they are going to react. I've had people tell me "You blocking THEIR blessing by not accepting it." Uh, guess what.....they can share theirs AND mine with the next person. I don't have time to figure out a two-faced coin.

    They say.....When you really want to know how someone feels about you.....make'em mad.

  • KcoolMuziq

    NEVER borrow,,loan, take money from friends.

  • Let them eat cake

    yea...and i felt we were close enough that if she felt that i was using her etc she could just talk to me about it not just block and delete me...we both speak our minds so i felt we really understood each other. i was completely blindsided and im still hurt till this day. before this situation, we've had nothing but positive interactions and we had never even argued before.

  • Let them eat cake

    she's my cousin.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    'you got five on it'???

  • Let them eat cake

    yea i know that now...and people also think you are beneath them if they give you money unless its your parent. i wont ever let myself get into that deep of a hole again.

  • Hazel

    Robbing Peter to pay Paul. I'll keep my 813 credit and modest house. The people who try to flex are usually broke. I hope they go down hard.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    not nar' braid, lock, or shape-up, huh? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I aint never ever like Duane...I remember when they said he was the reason that Tisha stopped working on Martin...once they got engaged Duane gave Tisha all these "rules" to abide by and he would come on set acting like he was on the show...Martin was also creeping with Tisha (allegedly) and she stopped once she got engaged to Duane...Allegedly...Also I heard he was a prick on the set of My Wife and Kids too...

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    I didn't see that last part coming... you took my breath away, LOL!!! https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o7TKuylrX8kT7XhVS/giphy.gif

  • Yoni7

    Family either.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    he thought he was Kevin Hunter? ROFL!!!!!!!

  • Yoni7

    Keep that same energy/mindset.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    He is and he was jealous of Tisha's fame when he got with her and his career aint jump off after Above the Rim...Chile...

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I dont give nobody nothin...not even change for a five... https://media1.giphy.com/media/2ubmtAwCI5fc4/giphy.gif

  • Yoni7

    They can if they going to get their nails and hair done every (other) week or so. Nails ain't cheap. So if loaned you 300 and you pay 60 every other week to get your nails done. You coulda paid me back almost half of what you borrowed in a month. That's what I have a problem with.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    You still at it I see ? But there is a lot of truth in what you're saying...

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    "aint jump off after Above the Rim"
    _______________________

    i swear yall not right in here! LMAO!!!!

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Sweetie...I am sorry you and your cousins relationship took this hit. I don't understand her mindset at all. I am all about talking something out. Why do this to family?!

  • Yoni7
  • Mz_Opinionated

    You said you told her mom (I'm guessing your aunt). Maybe she can convey your thoughts and feelings to her shady acting ass daughter. And you both can jump over this hurdle. But it's forever a blemish in your relationship. It shouldn't be like this though.

  • Yoni7

    I'm leaving. LOL But this is one of the times I'm being a lil serious on here. I mean it. https://media3.giphy.com/media/HVweQ5FuSFZJe/giphy.gif

  • Let them eat cake

    thank you i really appreciate your kind words. yea she said she was disowning me and im like, how're you just gonna drop me like that and im family and we were close smh. i asked her for the money because i felt really comfortable with her and it SEEMED like we understood each other on a deep level so it hurt that much more when she just dropped me out of no where. i will get over it eventually.

  • Thingamajig

    Such a shame. Duane is not a genuine friend if he did that to Willard.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Hey Hazel...You should be my very best friend with a credit score that amazing ? Seriously though...congrats!

  • Chhzz

    like you know them directly...

  • B.Loveitt

    Duane looks like he gotta poop.

  • Sha

    Your funny !!!!!!

  • Coffee1st

    That's a huge pet peeve of mine.
    And, "God helps those who help themselves"..... chic argued me down bout that one.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    LOL!!!

  • Jordan’s Memory

    LOL We miss you Bernie Mack!

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    I done got strangled on my sea salt caramels... lawd... ROFL!!!!!!

  • Yup, I said it

    You doing right. Modest house is the key. My house is only 1200 sq ft and the repairs for my 8 yr old HVAC are over $4000. The HVAC cost increase the larger the home. The bigger the home the more maintenance and the more the technicians try to juice you for money because they think you got it.

  • that_VA_thickchick

    I hate when people use "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" as a catch all for their mess. Ummm after that He also says "now go and sin no more."

    Conveniently left that part out. LOL

  • Yup, I said it

    Sounds like she set you up to cause drama. Some people will give you something so they can turn around and play like they were victimized and taken advantage of. Its a mental illness.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    ? ? Dammit! Didn't we already have an agreement?! You are terrible...

  • AListDiva29

    Why not just mail the check and let that be that?!

  • Li-Wright

    Wow! I remember for YEARS I was reading gossip items that linked Will and Duane as more than friends. This just kills that gossip. Will was a friend who was conflicted about helping them.
    I see that Trisha is now working, hosting, acting after cutting her husband loose. Getting lots of work. The problem is that these two were trying to keep up with the Joneses. They were trying to live like their Hollywood friends (Will & Jada) and couldn't keep up.
    I have been in situations like that, trying to keep up with friends who were wealthy, and I had to cut them loose. I was just a normal working person and I can't afford to have rich friends.

  • Coffee1st

    Duane looks miserable and dejected.... like he KNOW he aint chyt.

  • Greatgrape37

    Looks like Will was right to be hesitant. Smh

  • Bonita

    Well I have a cousin that lives off social security, who has a working, very frugal husband, and three grown kids. She started calling me ever so often about a year ago, to see how I was doing and to gossip about certain relatives. About 7 months later, she asks me to borrow $50 so that she can have something in her pocket when she visits her mom in Kansas City, and she'd pay me back in 2 weeks. She paid me back when she said she would. A month later, she sends me a text saying she knows I'm not an ATM, but can she borrow $50 for spending money on this cruise that one of her daughter's was taking her on. I told her "no" and I aint heard from her ass since. I had another cousin who has 2 teenage kids. She is on welfare and I later learned has a bad weed habit. Kids had no beds, no form of at home entertainment, raggedy clothes, sons hair was never cut, etc. I bought them their own tvs, their own laptops, I bought the daughter who's into games a PS4 and 10 games, I paid a barber directly to have her son's hair cut bi-weekly, I bought a new tv, microwave, washer and dryer for my cousin, and both kids brand new beds, cause my trifling cousin got her mom's queen size bed after her mom died, while the kids continued to make pallets on the floor in their rooms. This dirty b*tch decided she was moving to Vegas, and pawned all the kids electronics and put the beds and electronics I got for her in storage, and lost the gotdamn storage. I will NEVER do for another relative that isn't my mama or my future grandbabies.

  • mzwhang90210

    With the abrupt mood & behavioral changes like that is it possible that your cousin has a mental disorder or psychological issues? Whatever the case, it's not your fault. The Universe could be sending you a signal about distancing yourself from her. It might be wise of you to take heed.
    I'd also be very leery of her from here on out, even if she "comes around" & starts being friendly in the future. Fool me once, etc. It's perfectly okay (and sometimes necessary), to love certain relatives from a distance. Also, if you do pay her back in person, I'd record it, or have some kind of indisputable proof- just to be safe. Good luck.?

  • Seldomseen

    Not even a lining?

  • Seldomseen

    Girl why you made me think of sweet daddy off of Good Times.

  • Let them eat cake

    Thank you..and thats a good idea. i will def get proof that i paid her. and yes...the mental illness part was the first thing that crossed my mind when i read her nasty message to me. the whole thing just sickens me and it really sucks she behaved this way because i can never look at her the same again.

  • Let them eat cake

    because i'm paranoid about mailing a check for that large amount of money even though no one else could cash it. i want to physically put it in her hand.

  • lovelygamour

    this is the same thing she did with the martin show. tisha is a bridge burner. why would she say anything. its not just about getting her exhusband, now its roping in her friends of 20 years. she has enough clout to eat that house. now who is going to want to help her. I dont think will smith did anything wrong except involve his team. he shouldve quietly loaned the money at the kitchen table. I dont see a problem with loaning friends money. just dont loan more then you can afford and if you feel used then stop.

    the only person this really reflects bad on is tisha because she/ her kids use the house too. the bank probably got back their principle with some interest. their friends i assume have been paid back. if duane goes down in court then she does as well.

    she still going to have to pay him alimony. she shouldve worked out a deal.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Do I really need to lmao bye chile

  • lovelygamour

    I think tisha is trying to avoid child support and alimony but it wont work. she enjoyed the house just as much as he did. I also agree with you about stomping out the rumors. if they had something going on then he would give him the money just to wrap things up. a million isnt nothing to the smiths. its like me loaning a friend $500. I would notice its gone but it aint worth killing over: just a beatdown. lol.

  • lovelygamour

    tisha said martin harassed her. she sued and they settled. I personally think it was a lie or she was just high strung because she had to finish out her contract.

  • Patricia

    maybe she felt pressured into doing it. some folks have a hard time saying no
    maybe she felt you would have cut her off if she said no, so she resentfully gave it to you.
    or maybe she thought she had it to give and it turned out to be some money she desperately needed for herself and shes resentful towards you bc she overextended herself. just some thoughts...

  • Soon2BWife

    Is Tisha toxic?

  • Kanyade

    Yeah I understood your post :) Just wanted to add one of my favorite quotes about money, to compliment the discussion.

  • lovelygamour

    plus they try not to give you any choices. they see a nice hvac system they will try to get you to upgrade. my current house utilities is compact and simple. thats exactly what i wanted cause trying to find problems can turn into days. i notice a difference in how im treated. its not so much back and forth now. the repair people arent walking around trying to "upgrade" they do the work and leave because they cant lie. we looking at it together.

  • Igottimefordash*ts

    The gag is tisha snitched so she wouldn't have to pay child support. Foh they both was down with the caper. She jumped ship and told. Without any consideration for the Smith's. Now they (Smiths) all exposed when they were trying to help. With friends like this you dont need enemies?

  • Chhzz

    yes to say what you said., all else is rumors and gossip

  • Yup, I said it

    My electric bill is usually less than $40. I sleep very well at night not stressing about bills. Middle class struggle to buy big homes and expensive cars like the wealthy but the wealthy purchase large homes and luxury vehicles as a "business" investment or "business" expense and can write of the taxes and maintence, like what Dwayne and Tisha Campbell tried to do. Regular folks be out here working 2 jobs and selling herbal body wraps to pay for that stuff.

  • lovelygamour

    if i was will and jada i dont know if i would still be her friend. did she just not care.

  • Mrs Mary

    This is one big hot a#$ MESS!!!!!

  • lovelygamour

    plus, she is on dr.kim and she has other things going on. her "wife and kids" salary was nice. you are right she should have money. however she has health problems and she doesnt get free stuff or atleast not a lot. so I think she spent big just like her husband. everyone blaming him but i think it was a two way street.

  • lovelygamour

    it worked. she snitched. they actually wouldve got away with it.

  • tintin

    Im so confused

  • Lolly Asher

    Will calls him Shake for Shakedown. Duane is doing mess like a husband on real housewives making Peter go dayum.

  • tintin

    I cant believe duane was beating Tisha

  • mzwhang90210

    I am so sorry that happened to you. And I'll bet you to this day she will act like she did NOTHING wrong. SMH. You'll be blessed though.

  • lovelygamour

    i gave a woman on the bus a few bucks because she had a kid and was yelling on the phone about needing some food/bus fare. the next day she smiles at me while walking on the bus with freshly dyed purple-ish hair. that ticked me off. she used that money for hair dye. plus i thought she was trying to get to a place but she stayed on the bus line and was going to the store. lol.

    she is living with relatives and wants the kid father to take care of her. he wants custody and gives her money but not enough for herself.

  • tintin

    Didnt Duane have a sports management company ? Or was that a character he played on TV

  • tintin

    Ppl know the ppl to lend that type of money. My best friend asked me for that amt of money and promised to pay it all back within 2 mths and she did. Now my mama and my sisters never would i lend that to them. My mama borrowed 1000 from me and act like i owe her for giving me life . 10 years later i still havent been paid. Its a write off

  • PlayerP

    That second cousin is about that trife life...that shit pissed ME off...I had similar experiences

  • PlayerP

    Then the real comes out...this is why I tell people all the time...if you actively participate in gossip, whomever you're talking to will do it to you...they don't even have to be big mad...just little mad and everybody gets a dose...smh

    But we are one...if I ever ask something of someone...know I must REALLY need it...otherwise I make do without.

  • lovelygamour

    agree now some do an "exit scam". some guy got me this way. he asked for a little loan and then moved two days later. come to find out he was going all around the building borrowing then moved out.

  • lovelygamour

    yeah, i dont understand why he involved his team unless he didnt trust tisha. maybe he saw them heading toward a divorce.

  • Mz_Opinionated

    Honey...No good luck came to him. Believe me. That was deceptively sneaky and trifling.

  • lovelygamour

    thats against the law or contract terms. because it was a foreclosure sale you agree that the previous owners wont gain from it.

    farmers during the depression would buy each others foreclosed tools and rent to own them back. i guess the banks was losing too much money on those deals.

  • lovelygamour

    i dont know about the lounge but tisha shouldve not involved the house if it meant bringing their friends into it. she has a good enough career to cover that lost. she will still have to pay duane spousal support.

  • lovelygamour

    tisha didnt think at all. I bet they included that fake rent on their taxes. this will come back to bite her.

  • lovelygamour

    she probably felt small that it took someone else to do for her kids. so in order to take back the power she pawned the stuff. I dont think this should close your heart but only do the bare minimum until you learn a persons heart. I am sure the kids really appreciated you for doing that and that maybe the most kind thing anyone will ever do for them. you showed them it was more to life and to be kind.

  • lovelygamour

    she sounds like a weak person who cant say no. sounds more like a problem on her end. maybe you missed some clues. maybe she meant to say "give" in a sarcastic tone. either way i would just explain that I really did mean a loan and that she couldve said no. pay her back. then i would leave her alone.

  • Madcap Maddy

    this is why lisa raye doesn't fool with duane's ass.

  • TheOwley

    Firstt, beggars can't be choosy and this man was demanding terms of the contract. Will should have read the desperation in they way he was demanding' money. Secondly, a large financial loan to friend who is broke is really a gift. You won't see that money again.

  • TheOwley

    Sounds like extortion to me.

  • 88

    9,000 sq feet mansion? The Martin's were clearly living above their means.

  • Yup, I said it

    PayPal it back to her.

  • Eileen

    downsize into a 3000 sq.ft and call it a day...

  • Coy little wink

    The writeup says they did short sale to LLC...why couldn't Will have bought the home instead?

  • MsPam

    Me too, I had to read it twice. ????

  • lovelygamour

    I was at the post office and this tiny natural thin women was telling a chunky woman that those wraps is why she is thin. the seller had so many mlm stickers on her bag it was unbelievable. a lot of those people really believe they are going to be instant millionaires selling $5 wraps for $20. then they do it wrong. they run up a tab but their expenses dont come close to any threshold. so they get no benefit from owning a business .

    just like the people who donate cars but owe no taxes. donating a car is deducted from taxes so if a person doesnt owe they dont get anything back.

  • lovelygamour

    will could buy it but the martins couldnt be sold back the home. cause the house sold for less then they owed. so if the same people will own it again then the bank wants the rest of their money. with the llc even though the martins controlled it its not directly in there names. thats how they got around it. then the llc rented the house out to them.

    its a scam. the bank can come after them for fraud, if they filed taxes with regards to rent the state can come after them, and the bankruptcy court can come after them if they want. tisha shouldve kept quiet. this is a part of why the real housewives of nj teresa went to jail. falsifying bankruptcy paperwork. hopefully they just have to pay the sell proceeds to their creditors. hopefully they just say a friend loaned them money but I think this isnt going to end well for the martins.

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com Ms.Devereaux

    Daaaaaaaaamn he was doing s lot of moving stuff around got will name all in the mix ????? This is a mess!

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Seem like they was having man on man sex

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Seem like they was having man on man sex and Duane was going to tell it all

  • Ghost

    Yep on the gift! My daddy always told me don’t lead out money that you can’t afford to loose!

  • Bee jaay Cee

    Shake was Duane's nick name when he appeared on Kevin Hart's "Husband's of Hollywood": That show was funny.

  • justlooking

    Damn she was pressed over that house. Bitterness gets you NO where.

  • Yoni7

    Now you know.....

  • Yoni7

    Not even lint.

  • Yoni7

    So so so terrible.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Yes. And the should automatically understand that the bridge has been burned and not keeping their word does more harm to them than you. What goes around comes around and the same way they need that money before..it will be needed again...

  • Logan Roberts

    I never really cared for Tisha ole pie faced self and thought she was over hyped in the looks department.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Let see .....
    Will created and financed a show for Duane, made him a lead character, and he still couldn't carry the show. What show has Duane created for himself? Better yet what has Duane financed for himself? I'll let you find the rest since you want to be captain save a hoe and defend him lmao FYI cancelled shows are public record and I didn't need to speak with him directly

  • EMILY POST

    They were two working actors and its sad how so many people in Hollywood this is their story. Thats why older black celebrities bought homes in places they could actually afford

  • PrettyPetty

    Just messy and sloppy and I see why Will was hesitant. He knew exactly what he was trying to do and he must have saw this coming. I'm sure their marriage has been on shaky grounds for awhile now.

  • LLC

    yeppppp and he was scamming there too. shit was real ?

  • LLC

    willard ??not the govment name

  • Wildcat34

    This was actually pretty clever of them to purchase home through LLC. However, greed will sink a ship quicker than anything.

  • Chhzz

    LMBO!! IM trying to get those cheeks...leave them alone :)
    lol