By Sandra Rose  | 


Prosecution star witness Lisa Van Allen and her boyfriend Yul Brown (left) arrive for court.
(Brian Jackson/Sun-Times)

Lisa Van Allen, the prosecution's star witness in the ongoing R. Kelly trial told a packed courtroom today that she participated in a threesome with R. Kelly and a then 13-year-old girl on Kelly's private basketball court.

    Van Allen said she had met R. Kelly at the video shoot for "Home Alone," in which she appeared. Kelly's cousin, "Blacky" invited her to join Kelly in Kelly's trailer, she said. She talked with Kelly and ended up "having intercourse" with him in the trailer, she said. She was 17 at the time, she said.

    The pair exchanged numbers and Van Allen soon visited Kelly in Chicago, eventually giving up her job in Atlanta to be with him full time. Kelly paid for her to stay in hotels and she spent most of her time with him at the studio.

    In late 1998, she testified, Kelly took her to his former home on the North Side of Chicago, where she met the alleged victim in this case for the first time. Kelly taped them while they had three-way sex in his "log-cabin" room, she said. That's the same room he's alleged to have filmed the tape in this case. Kelly told her the alleged victim was 16, she said. (Source)

Thanks to loyal reader Blogger Girl for the link!

  • bklynchick

    And the saga continues.....

  • classic

    Oh, what tangled web we weave when we try to deceive. I want to see how the worm of a man - R.Kelly, will try to wiggle his way out of this one. This is like soap opera- by this way is this trial on Court TV?

  • cupcakes

    Here they go.....and she nasty too!!! WOW!! After she steps down off the stand, they should slap the cuffs on her....she look like she scared to death!

  • classic

    That should have been ...........BTW- by the way! And if this saga is on court tv, and there is anyone who watches the trial.....give me in the info.

  • cupcakes

    Courtv is off the air.....I think.

  • brwnsugga4you

    this is very disturbing and disgutsting??? is this chick pregnant now in that pic??? how will you explain this story to your children???

  • shunda

    They are just gross. Is it just me or does the boyfriend look like he is much older than her too.

  • ladyrazor

    Now i aint saying kells didnt do it....cuz he got that history with aaliyah...but ol gurl seems a lil suspect to me too...im just saying she seemed to be one of them fast a** lil gurls growing up...and by the looks of her boyfriend its apparent she likes them older or whateva...i just want to know if she didnt want to do it from the start why continue to meet up with him and the other gurl to do the do still????...not once but on numerous occasions. im just sayin...some one fill me in if i missed something..

  • MOCHAMOMMY

    Brownsgga, I'm with u... I am having a hard time believing her though. Even if the girl was 16, she was an adult... How do u explain being just as nasty as him???

  • AlwaysSweet

    Isn't she incriminating herself as well?

  • MOCHAMOMMY

    I meant to say that Van Allen was an adult**

  • LovelyLady

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, dis trick nasty......tryna justify her actions saying she thought she was 16.....So da F*ck what dats still underage.............I mean I guess Kells would get off by saying "man I thought she was 18 look at dat body" GTFOH.......I agree with everyone else she should be locked up to.....I mean she is a child molester however you wanna see it...so I guess if a "GUY" commits a crime like this and testify against his friend he gets no jail time?

    DO YALL THINK SHE WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.........WHICH SHE IS

    *I'm Just Saying*

    Side Note: Thsi is like a soap opera.........My guess is the girl was paid off by Kells to not testify she wanted more money and he wouldn't give it........so now she playing hard ball...........and is going to testify and keep her money (sound like a woman scorned rather than a helpful citizen)

    And now her ex sees an opportunity to get money so he's going to testify against her testimony.........I guess these 2 mofo's planned this out.............I SMELL A MISTRIAL IN AFFECT AS WE SPEAK....dat's was planned by both witnesses and Kells

    Is She preggers I see a bulge........Is it R Kellys and he want man up lol

  • kwallace577

    this whole trial has turned out to be the circus of this century!! i need an excel spreadsheet to keep up with these suspect folks popping up outta no dayum where. i wonder if things woulda gone this far had the trial not been postponed so many times?? wow is all i can say.

  • http://www.myspace.com/millyly milly

    WOW this would make great T.V
    I hope they dont do a mistrial or an aquittal
    R kelly and old gird both need some jail time

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    Am I Missing something because she said that she was 17 and if she thought the girl was 16 then she was a minor herself so how can she be locked up if technically they both were underage. The entire situation is nasty and disgusting. Both of them are adults now and even as adults neither one of them can see anything wrong with their actions ugh..... The money seems to be more important than justice for them both.
    So sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What about R. Kelly he is the responsible party for all of this foolishness. One thing for sure he was clearly the adult in this situation. SO there can't be a dispute there.

  • ladyrazor

    @SnootyPooty1

    if the witness was 17yrs old back in 97 she would have been 18 in 98 which would make her an adult and just as in the wrong as kells....but who knows we are all speculating here..lol

  • cutienjerzey

    Please read the post. It clearly states that Lisa was 17 at the time and thought the girl was 16. She he molested both of them, I do agree that Lisa was fast as hell, but she was also star struck and probably didn't have much of a home structure.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @ladyrazor... Okay how many of us dated a man that was one year older or maybe 2 years older than us when we were 15,16, 17 or 18... Most of us have. I am not saying that it is right i am just saying you can’t prove that she knew the girl was 13 that is easy for us to say she should be locked up now because we know everyone’s ages now. But when they were having a threesome the only one who cared about their ages was R. Kelly as long as they were not woman he was cool because he wanted minors.
    I am sure the witness was not like girl how old are you because you look like you still wear a training bra....
    They were both with a famous man and did not care... But like you said its only speculation.

  • http://www.myspace.com/millyly milly

    damn sooo thats 2 minors in one video???

  • mimi08

    UM, NEWS FLASH*******

    SHOULDN'T THIS BI/T/CH GO TO JAIL TOO, SINCE SHE WAS OVER 18, AND CLAIMS TO HAVE HAD A THREESOME WITH KELLY AND A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL. SHE WAS JUST AS WRONG! A THREESOME IS THREE PEOPLE HAVING SEX TOGETHER, SO THAT MEANS SHE ALSO HAD SEX WITH A 13 YEAR OLD! NASTY B/I/T/CH.

  • Bubbles

    this trial is a circus

  • mimi08

    SOME PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION...IT SAID SHE WAS 17 WHEN SHE FIRST HAD SEX WITH R. KELLY IN HIS TRAILER BY HERSELF....

    IT THEN GO ON TO SAY IN LATE 1998, SHE HAD THE THREESOME..I'M SURE BY THAT TIME, THIS B/I/T/CH WAS 18 BY THEN. SHE IS JUST AS NASTY, IF NOT MORE THAN R. KELLY, BEING A GROWN ASS WOMAN, F/U/C/K/I/NG A YOUNG GIRL, NASTY WHORE, PROBABLY THE REASON KELLY KEPT CALLING HER, CAUSE HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN ANY NUMBER OF CHICKS TO PARTICIPATE....THIS B/I/T/C/H IS PROBABLY A NASTY AS/S WH/O/RE AND OFF THE HOOK.

    IF KELLZ GO TO JAIL, SO SHOULD THIS BI/T/CH! TRYING TO COME TO COURT WITH KING KONG NEXT TO HER, ACTING INNOCENT. SHE WAS A FAST TAIL H/O/E BOTTOM LINE.

  • kurvykutie

    I agree this is a made for tv movie. I don't understand why the chick would come out and say she had a threesome. Some things should be kept in the dark. And that boyfriend of hers. He is so proud to be with her, he rocked the shiny green suit for court.

  • LovelyLady

    To everyone saying she was 17 she shouldn't go tell jail.......bulshit.................READ.........because the article says in 97 she FIRST hook dup with Kells in which she was 17.............THEN in 98 is when she first met the 13 year old..........not sure about yall but I thought we turned a year older each year

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    SnootyPooty1 says:
    Okay how many of us dated a man that was one year older or maybe 2 years older than us when we were 15,16, 17 or 18… Most of us have. I am not saying that it is right i am just saying you can’t prove that she knew the girl was 13

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    So my guess is you would feel the same way if it were a guy

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @LovelyLady..... It’s not okay for a 30 year old man to date a 13year old... I am not condoning anyone's action the point i am making is some of us were fast and have dated men that was older than us when we were underage. It’s illegal for a 17 year old and 18 year to date but people do it.
    A grown man should never date a 13 years under no circumstances nor should a woman participate with a underage minor but can you prove she knew the girl was 13? Heck we did not even know until years later ourselves.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    I say again, why hasn't this man taken a plea yet? Does he want to go to prison for year and years? Is he not aware that there is not neary an adolescent girl up in there?

    His lawyers have stalled as long as they could. It's time to throw in the towel.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    The entire thing is sick let’s not forget who the true adult was and the role he played.
    If my husband asks me to do a threesome he better start running right away…

  • candycane

    I bet she thought she was doing it BIG, quit her job, moved to a different state and Rrah was taking care of her financially. I bet she told all her friends, " yeaaaaaaaah bytch R. Kelly about to hook me up with ......

    This ish is a dayum mess!

  • LovelyLady

    @ SnootyPooty1

    Trust I understand exactly what you are saying.......but my point is if it were a guy 20, 19, or 18 yr old guy sexing a 17, 16 yr old girl and didn't know her age (because trust I had a body of a grown woman before high school) would you still feel as though he shouldn't have went to jail............If that's the case every person locked of for statutory rape should use the *I didn't know she was _____________________* line

    But like I said yes I'm sure all of us has dated a guy a year or two older than us........Not to say it makes it ok

  • candycane

    I wont say she's nasty just because she had a threesome, plenty a'dayum people have threesomes, this one just happend to be with a child molester. HE is the one wrong. Aint nothing wrong with a threesome if that's your thing. I've never had one, but it's an interesting thought (blush)

  • D.Ortiz

    This is a nasty gutter-butt trollip shame, Where were these childrens parents when all this sex was happening ? I wonder if they will use the Aaliyah married against him since she was 15 or 16 at the time.

  • katgirl33

    I do see a VH 1 Movie coming about this, right after they do a special "Behind the Music"...cause if the ain't behind the music, I don't know what is.....

    If ol' girl was 18 at the time of the threesome, that does make her a child molester, just like Kells.......but you know whoever exposed R. Kelly wasn't doing it to get paid from HER....

    Something to think about.....

  • katgirl33

    I believe Aaliyah's parents approved for her to get married, then made her get an annulment once they seen how people reacted so negatively to it.....I have a hard time believing Aaliyah's parents didn't know about the relationship.....

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @LovelyLady... I see your point, but how do we know that she knew the girl was only 13 because from what I seen in the video she had more experience than me at the time. She definitely did not act as if she was that young. At 13 I was still in the girl scouts and playing with my Barbies!!!!!! If she knew then yes she should also be held accountable for her actions she as sexual perverts
    Who target minors for example R. Kelly.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    pardon my typo. "She should be held accountable just like any other pervert"

  • LovelyLady

    SnootyPooty1 Says:

    @LovelyLady… I see your point, but how do we know that she knew the girl was only 13 because from what I seen in the video she had more experience than me at the time.

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    LMAO

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @LovelyLady.... you stop laughing at me tell the truth did she not look like she had some miles behind her??????....

  • Negrito

    Kelly will not be able to get out of this mess. He's going down now. Ever since that whole thing with Aaliyah everybody knows he has a preference for teen girls. Kelly was 28 years old when he dated a 14-15 year old Aaliyah SMH. He likes them young when they have hit puberty and start to develop but aren't yet grown women. R.Kelly suffers from that "Lolita" complex.

    BTW..That woman looks like singer Claudette Ortiz from City High.

  • LovelyLady

    SnootyPooty1 Says:

    @LovelyLady…. you stop laughing at me tell the truth did she not look like she had some miles behind her??????….

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    I'm laughing because it is so true..........I'm like damn.......rewind......I need to learn dat.......When I first saw the tape I was like she can't be no damn 13 only grown women do things dat way lol

  • LovelyLady

    Negrito Says
    R.Kelly suffers from that “Lolita” complex.

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    Hey now I liked that movie
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    BTW..That woman looks like singer Claudette Ortiz from City High.
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    Damn u remember dat group.....we need a "Where R They Now"

  • http://notenoughrealmen.blogspot.com 2thick4u

    Mostly likely they gave her a deal since she is the star witness.

    This is very sad that she was sleeping with his grown ass at 17 and having three-somes.

    I'm 24 and have yet to have a three-some nor fuck with an old nasty ass man!!!

  • tintin

    damn R. Kelly is over.

  • http://www.myspace.com/theflyestmom Nekita

    Trust me, she was probably granted some type of Immunity for this testimony. She is just as bad as Kelly!!!

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @LovelyLady....LOL okay she could have had given me some pointers boys grossed me out at that age probably because I had a nasty brother.....

  • Negrito

    LovelyLady Says

    Damn u remember dat group…..we need a “Where R They Now”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    LOL...yeah, "What Would You Do" used to be my song.

  • kurvykutie

    SnootyPooty1 Says:

    @LovelyLady…. you stop laughing at me tell the truth did she not look like she had some miles behind her??????….

    I agree. At 13 I was cheering and playing with my friends (my own age). She looked like an experienced PRO. I have a 13 year old and this has made me keep a much harder look at what she is doing and where she is going.

    I hope they didn't give this ole' girl immunity. She is just as responsible as R. Kelly. This is a perfect example of how videos give these young girls the wrong impression of how they should be treated. Just because R. Kelly had money she was willing to have an sexual encounter with a 13 year old girl.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @kurvykutie.. My Daughter is 14 and she cant spend the night away from home or anything. Because 13 and 14 year olds are different now days. They should come with GPS

  • Vegas Dice

    I MUST be honest..

    When I was age 14-18, I always had men trying to holla and most of them were definitely between age 18-25.

    Now that I'm older, I find it disguisting on a pedophile level..

    But, when I was that age - I wasn't even trippen.

    R.Kelly knew better.. He has a history of preying on young girls. Lock his ass up!

  • Coop

    Her new boyfriend looks like he's older the R. Kelly.

    And if this is true didn't she break the law as well?

  • VAALLDAY

    Well I understand what everyone is saying, but if she was 17, technically she is still a minor herself. Either way he's still having sex with kids and he wouldn't watch a teenage daughter of mine.

  • Liyah74

    R. Kelly's attorneys paint Lisa Van Allen as thief, extortionist

    On cross-examination, R. Kelly's attorney Sam Adam Sr. is attempting to paint Lisa Van Allen as a liar and a thief.
    Adam got Van Allen to admit that she had relationships with two men convicted for fraud in the federal courts. One - Damon Pryor - is the so-called "mystery witness" who flew into town at the last minute last week. He's the father of Van Allen's child. The other man - Yul Brown - is Van Allen's current partner.
    Under questioning from Adam, Van Allen said that she knew Pryor had served time for fraud before they met in 2001. She also knew Brown was a fraudster, she said.
    She laughed when Adam asked her if she only dated men with federal fraud convictions.
    While they were together, Pryor told her "how you interject yourself into a case - that you go at the last minute" with important testimony, she said. Van Allen agreed with Adam that Pryor was a "conman," describing their relationship as "a mistake."
    Adam pointed out that Van Allen had not come forward for nearly five-and-a-half years as a witness against Kelly, suggesting a link between Pryor's advice and her late emergence as a witness.
    But Van Allen denied telling Pryor that the tape at the center of the case was a fake, or that she had told him she planned to extort cash from Kelly. She denied telling a Minnesota woman the same thing, also denying that she knew two men called "Chuck and Keith" had staged the tape at the center of the case to get money from Kelly.
    The Minnesota woman, Lena Prado, has not been mentioned in court before, but Van Allen said she had known her since 1999. Van Allen denied having a sexual relationship with Prado.
    Van Allen did admit to stealing Kelly's $20,000 Rolex from his hotel room. Asked why she had never admitted stealing the watch until today, she said, "That's not what (R. Kelly's) on trial for."
    She acknowledged that her current partner, Brown, had been sentenced to probation for a weapons conviction just two weeks after she eventually approached prosecutors, offering to testify against Kelly. But she denied that prosecutors had told her they "needed" her to take the stand. Brown had faced up to 22 years for possessing a loaded AK-47 machine gun, Adam said.
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    This all boils down to one thing and is that she & her fiance got greedy and wanted more money. You can't make hoe into a housewife. Which she clearly is!!!!

  • Tangela

    Call me old-fashioned, but why aren't her (the girl in the video) parents on trial? I could really careless if they convict R. Kelly, I am more concerned about the lack of parenting and home-training this girl received. I knew PLENTY of fast-assed girls growing up, who used to emphatically lie about their age and hung out with older men. And I think this young girl was one of them. I think the government is wasting our money prosecuting this case when there are other more dangerous pedophiles attacking children as we speak. They are using R. Kelly as a scapegoat and let's not forget this is an election year, folks are trying to make their names known. I'm too through with grown-tail kids pretending to be adults.

  • andriceb

    uhm i wouldn't tell anyone i was a nasty pedophile myself!!! downgrade to miss van allen:(

  • starr

    everyone is on here talking about whether or not she was an adult or not. As far as i'm concerned, she's not on trial here, R. kelly is....so really, what does it matter. This isn't here trial. And lets not forget, R. kelly has been taking advantage of this gurl since she was 17. And i say advantage, because he knew she was star struck, and took advantage. R. Kelly made this situation. He could of left the 17 year old, but he continued to prey on her desperation, her star struckness (if dats even a word), and the fact that she was basically a black girl lost. HE was the real adult in the situation. He could of sent that gurl on her way but he didn't. So yes, she may have been an adult in the threesome, but she ain't on trial here. This is kells trial. And if she was adult in the threesome, well, she's believable to me cuz she was der. Who would put themselves out der like that.

    And side note. Everybody makes mistakes. Everybody didn't have a good life growing. Some harder than others. Some of go thru ish, some of us go thru ish harder than others. What she's going to tell her child, is her business, and no one else. This can for we know, make her a better mother. Cuz trust, I child who grew up in good stable situation wouldn't of been out looking for love (lust) in the arms of an older wealthy man. I'm not holding anything against anyone who did something like this when they were a child, probably going thru who knows what at home. An adult like R. Kelly now......he should be totally responsible. He was the ADULT (and mean that with more than age), and he knew exactly what he was doing.

  • http://www.myspace.com/amax AKAtastrophy1908

    So she is a pedophile too. She was of age when she had sex with the "13" year old. I don't know. I think these people wanted something from R. Kelly at one point and they didn't get it so now they are making him pay. It's sad.

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