By Sandra Rose  | 


A mixed race woman and her African husband learned the hard way that love and politics don't mix

When Caroline Jamieson wrote to U.S. president Barack Obama back in January begging him to intercede in her husband's deportation case, she got more than what she bargained for.

According to CNN, her husband "Hervé Fonkou Takoulo, was facing deportation to his native Cameroon. Takoulo failed in a bid before political asylum almost a decade ago."

Takoulo and Jamieson were married in 2005, and a judge issued a deportation order after they were married. Despite the judge's order, Takoulo applied for a green card that would give him the freedom to live and work in the U.S. as a legal resident.

He graduated from State University of New York at Stony Brook with an engineering degree in 2008 and received several engineering job offers, but no follow up due to the deportation order.

The couple had planned to go before immigration officials to plead their case for legal residency based on marriage to a U.S. citizen.

But immigration law requires that the deportation order be lifted before Takoulo can apply for legal residency.

"We want to be given the chance to interview and prove that we are a married couple, so Hervé can get a green card, and that has proven extremely difficult to do," Jamieson told CNN. [link]

Frustrated that the wheels of justice were turning too slowly for them, Jamieson, a vice president of marketing at a new-media advertising company, wrote that fateful letter to Barack Obama.

They never received a direct response to the letter. But they did get two Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers waiting outside their East Village, Manhattan apartment on June 3 when Takoulo was leaving the apartment to go to the gym. [link]



Jamieson told CNN that the officers cornered her husband and asked him if he had written a letter to the president. "He said 'No, but my wife did.' And they explained that with that letter -- when it was brought to their attention -- that the Obama administration wanted them to resolve this quickly,'" Jamieson said. [link]

Takoulo was immediately arrested and he spent the next six hours alone in a room at ICE Headquarters, chained at the wrists, ankles and midsection like a common criminal.

For the next two weeks, a frantic Jamieson wrote letters to politicians and her media connections pleading for help. She got responses, she said, but none seemed to lead anywhere.

Then on Thursday (June 17), Takoulo was brought to an immigration processing jail in Manhattan and released. There was no explanation for the release, but it probably had something to do with a CNN reporter's persistent inquiries into the case.

Takoulo and Jamieson are understandably bitter after their hellish ordeal. They had both been swept up in the euphoria surrounding Obama's historic election win in 2008.

"I felt a special kinship to him because I'm of mixed race, and my husband obviously has a similar background [to Obama's]," Jamieson told CNN.

"I feel really confused, I don't understand how something like this is possible. I can't imagine that at the top of the Obama administration that they realize that something like this is happening," Jamieson told CNN.

"We want to be a productive couple... All he wants to do is contribute to this economy."

Source: CNN

  • lakercrazy

    wow so u write a letter to the president and he almost gets deported dont mess with obabma

  • http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

    Did his issue get resolved?

  • TSRBenz

    well i know who wont be voting for obama's re-election

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    For some reason this is so funny to me.

  • Nika405

    @Smokie me too, after writing to President Obama and her husband getting arrested she wrote to more politicians HA HA (in my Nelson voice).

  • lexdiamonz

    I felt a special kinship to him because I’m of mixed race, and my husband obviously has a similar background [to Obama's],” Jamieson told CNN.
    :dead: :violin:

  • LaTechGrad02

    This is ridiculous. Now I see why the family of the little girl who asked Michelle Obama about immigration reform went into hiding. ICE is a mess.

  • Ace

    When i read this on CNN like 5misn ago..i was like this is right up Sandra Ally...and before i could hit send...she already had a post up lol...

    Sandra you waste no time...

    i have a feeling that the letter NEVER made it to the white house. It was probably opened and read at the local post office then passed on to authorities...(I'm assuming all presidential mail is screened)

    I figure the authorities quickly saw this as a quick case to add to the "win" column since they no his location and decided to cash in ...

    Sucks for the couple....but $hit happens...

  • LilMissRed

    Was this chick SERIOUS?? I mean really... I guess she thought their situation was RARE and would be OK?? girl stop

  • Ace

    also Good morning Fam!

  • LaTechGrad02

    @Ace, I read it and thought the exact same thing. Sandra will be posting this in 5,4,3,2, 1

  • lakercrazy

    good morning sr fam

  • MandaPanda0408

    :rolleyes:

  • shannon04

    Good morning fam......pretty messed up incident, but what did she expect writing that letter. The letter let them know he wasn't really supposed to be here. What did they think would happen??

  • allwrightyden

    I guess Sandra thinks that Obama just walked out to the mailbox and opened the letter and called the police. PULEEZE, I'm sure Obama himself, NEVER EVEN READ THE LETTER. I'm sure they intercepted the letter before it even go to his secretary! DAYUM, this man can't even take a "chit" without someone saying something! :coffee:

  • Danielle84

    @Smokie & Nika

    I'm with yall! This makes me laugh!

    Ok he was illegal!! Im sure there are many nice educated illegal immigrants in the county BUT your still illegal! I hate that people think because the president is black he is going to give special treatment to black people. C'mon son!

    I am and always will be Team President Obama!

    I will be voting for him next election as well :-)

  • mirsmommy

    Soooooo, since he was released, does he get to stay in the US??? :shrugs:

  • Ace

    I think he is just being electronically monitored until a Deportation Hearing can take place.

  • Mamacita

    "Takoulo and Jamieson were married in 2005, and a judge issued a deportation order after they were married." So basically you worte a letter telling the president that your husband wasn't a citizen and you're surprised at the outcome. People who recieve deportation orders after their cases fail in immigration court could face jail time under a new policy of the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Why didn't she know this before she wrote the letter? Obama probably didn't even read that letter. One of his peons probably read it and decided to do this!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Good morning Laker :coffee:

    How does writing Obama=Arrest? It says that he was facing deportation, but I hadn't been deported. :shrugs:

  • iyonah

    Good morning all ..
    The immigration laws need to be revamped. The criteria is skewed on who should vs should not be allowed to become a legal citizen. If the individuals are being productive members of society and they have no crimes outstanding in their native land, I say allow them to be great.

  • lexdiamonz

    i have ONE question do illegal aliens get tuition assitance if so i am about to be PISSED!!!!

  • lakercrazy

    @FREE hey goodmorning

  • lakercrazy

    iyonah says:

    Good morning all ..
    The immigration laws need to be revamped. The criteria is skewed on who should vs should not be allowed to become a legal citizen. If the individuals are being productive members of society and they have no crimes outstanding in their native land, I say allow them to be great.
    :preach:
    i agree if the person is not a criminal why deport them land of dreams right???

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    MORNIN FAM! BACK AND REFRESHED FROM MY TRIP SO LET THE RUCKUS START! :danban:

  • lakercrazy

    @BROWN how was the trip???

  • Ace

    this may sound ignorant and :offtopic:

    but can we please get English added to the requirements for citizenship?

    I tired of having to learn Spanish just so i can read the McDonalds menu...

    ( i took french )

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    COM-MUH -DEEE! It wsa fun laker, it was just a quick get away fro a few days!

  • Ace

    :Welcome: back Brown...We missed you!

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    Ace I saw even in my absence my fruit rollup trick was mentioned so I feel special! :dance:

  • lakercrazy

    Ace says:

    this may sound ignorant and

    but can we please get English added to the requirements for citizenship?

    I tired of having to learn Spanish just so i can read the McDonalds menu…

    ( i took french )

    THAT WAS IGNORANT maybe u shoulda took spanish we might be a minority but we run evry restaurant in town from the dis washer to the dam hostess!!!

  • http://facebook.com/renz.renegadesince1985 renegadesince1985

    Wow....I'm sure this letter never made it to the White House. I don't know why people would blame Obama for this. Do they really think that he read the letter and sent Homeland Security to arrest the guy? If he's here illegally then he knew the possible consequences. They got married in 2005 though, so I don't know why he's being deported. I think there's more to this story than they're saying. :think:

  • Nika405

    @Lexi not in OK. You have to be a citzen to get aide and instate tuition.

  • http://facebook.com/renz.renegadesince1985 renegadesince1985

    @Ace

    I doubt there is a McDonald's menu that is solely in Spanish :rollseyes:

  • Ace

    Sorry laker..i got a habit of saying random shit that is on my mind..I'll keep my ignorant ass mouth close for now...

  • http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

    renegadesince1985 says:
    Wow….I’m sure this letter never made it to the White House. I don’t know why people would blame Obama for this. Do they really think that he read the letter and sent Homeland Security to arrest the guy? If he’s here illegally then he knew the possible consequences. They got married in 2005 though, so I don’t know why he’s being deported. I think there’s more to this story than they’re saying.
    ------------------
    I definitely agree! :cosign:

  • Mamacita

    @Ace I agree...if you're gonna come to an ENGLISH speaking country you SHOULD know how to speak English. I'm tired of having to strain, assume, and guess what you're saying because you don't know english. I remember one time I was at work at the Limited and this guy came in trying to buy his wife something. So tried to help him and started asking him questions to see what size she wears, what colors she likes, etc., then he says "No habla Ingles". Well how the hell do you expect me to help you? I don't know Spanish!

  • Nika405

    @renegadesince1985 President Obama did not respond or send repair men to my house when I left him a message on this blog about the work I needed done on my house. I felt he was responsible for it and he should have fixed it. I see I need to send a letter directly to him!

  • Carmez79

    from the title, i am to assume Obama sent out the agent and said get this man now! because he failed to apply for political assylum waaaay before Obama was president somehow he is to blame?

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    Nigga, go home.

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    I'm gonna email Barack and ask can he open an investigation into FORD to find out why my check engine light won't go off!

  • Mamacita

    but i don't want to offend my spanish speaking fam and if you speak Spanish AND English then you get a :thumbsup: in my book. But to come here and not know any English doesn't make sense. If I move to China I should know how to speak Chinese right? If I move to France i should know how to speak French right? That's all i'm saying...

  • shannon04

    @Mamacita ...Yep.

  • Ace

    Mamacita says:

    but i don’t want to offend my spanish speaking fam and if you speak Spanish AND English then you get a :thumbsup: in my book. But to come here and not know any English doesn’t make sense. If I move to China I should know how to speak Chinese right? If I move to France i should know how to speak French right? That’s all i’m saying…

    __________________________________________________________________________

    :cosign:

  • http://facebook.com/renz.renegadesince1985 renegadesince1985

    I think the Native Americans should have had a better immigration policy

  • lakercrazy

    @mamacita i agree 100% if u come to america u need to learn the language but let me put it like this my uncle comes from mexico goes directly to work to support his family so were does he go to take classes for english?? wen he is working 6am to 7pm were is the time???? most immigrants come here just to work and support fam not to learn a new language

  • Nika405

    As a matter of fact President Obama needs to come and take off the THREE layers of wallpaper I found in my kitchen. I should not have to use any of my money to do it he should called and told me that all that wallpaper was in the kitchen!

  • Krysi J

    what kinda shyt???.....why did it take so long for them to give dude his green card, he was married to a US citizen and they didn't even interview them??? How you just gon deport somebody without conducting a formal investigation???

  • Krysi J

    GOODMORNING EVERYONE!! :grin:

  • Mamacita

    @Laker and I understand that BUT how do you expect to communicate when there is a huge language barrier? If you want to come to America then you need to know English. There are a lot of places that cater to Spanish speaking people but once you go outside of those areas then what? People can tell you anything and treat you badly and you would never know because you have no idea what they're saying.

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    IS THAT MY???
    COULD IT BE???
    HEYYYY KRYYSSSAAYYYY! I SEE YOU GIVIN ME THAT LOOK!

  • Mamacita

    Nika405 says:

    As a matter of fact President Obama needs to come and take off the THREE layers of wallpaper I found in my kitchen. I should not have to use any of my money to do it he should called and told me that all that wallpaper was in the kitchen!

    -------------------------------------------------------

    :lol:

  • lakercrazy

    @MAMACITA :)
    i agree ive seen it happen to alot of my people

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Hey Laker Boo, Believe it or not, in Miami we have predominantly Spanish neighborhoods and besides the large sign "WALGREENS" the sub-print (pharmacy, photos) is in Spanish. Sometimes when you are shopping it is difficult because of the language barrier. Commend anyone for their work ethnics but it would be nice if you attempted to learn the language as we have learned thiers.

  • lakercrazy

    @free yes mam i agree but if u put urself in there shoes just for one min u would realize is not as easy as u may think i would love for all the immigrants to lear english and not have to sit there with a blank look in there face wen u talk to them but to most immigrants priority is providing money and that is all they really worry about

  • speakinmymind

    @ lakercrazy

    your uncle needs to make the time to learn English. i know that sounds harsh but it's the truth. as a tax-paying citizen, i have no sympathy for people who come here VOLUNTARILY to live/work. if your uncle is injured on his job, he will have no qualms about reporting to the nearest emergency room where my hard-earned legal tax dollars will be used to foot his bill.

    there's two sides to every coin and i'm speaking from the side that's tired of my tax money taking care of people who shouldn't be here in the first place. do it the right way and i have no problem with it, but come here illegally and your @$$ should be sent back on the next train smoking.

  • MissHarlem

    @ Brown I hope you got the e flowers I sent you and the thank you card for that fruit roll up trick :-D
    MORNING EVERYONE!!
    On topic something must be wrong with me because I find that funny as all hell.

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    You are a Negro from Cameroon - not Cuba or Mexico. Your azz don't get to stay here illegally.

    Where is Rev Al on this one?

  • speakinmymind

    attorneymom says:
    You are a Negro from Cameroon...
    ----------------------------------
    why did this make me :lol:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Brown I didn't even know you were the author of the fruit roll up trick. Thanks a lot boo :wink:

  • lakercrazy

    @speakmymind its not just your hard earning money is mine too so and ur assumption because that is what it is that ur paying there bills baby please i work for the dam hospital and dont matter what f*ken race u are u dont pay the dam bill no way so take that bull chit somewere else u sound like they owe u something if it wasent for the immigrants ur azz would be down and broke i dont give a f*ck what nobody say this dam country was billed by all the mexicans wetbags waterver the hell u wanna call us under pay doing jobs that other races wont do

  • FloridaChick813

    :popcorn:

    (In my DMX voice) HeRe We Go AgAin!!!!!

  • BamaBeauty

    @ laker

    True story...I work in the medical field. Our old office used to be right next door to a Mexican restaurant. One day, a worker had fallen ill. The other workers stormed over to our office to ask for assistance--which we had no idea what they were really trying to communicate--we knew they needed help. One of the guys presented a Rx bottle to us in Spanish. It was obviously not an American Rx bottle.Needless to say, we could not administer or read the bottle. We were unable to get an accurate description of what happened because in the chaos, either they panicked and forgot to speak English, or the little English they knew couldn't equate to the situation. This is why it is important to speak English. It's heartbreaking not to be able to help someone, when that is what you are trained to do. As it is frustrating not to get the help you need, when you are in need....

    Learning English has to be a part of their struggle to survive in America. We all deal with some type of ish, that we just have to do, because of who we are.

  • lakercrazy

    @bamabeuty i understand yalls point and agree with it they do need to learn english but once again is not as easy as everybody make it seem thatisall

  • lakercrazy

    @flo in my dmx voive "yall gon make me lose my mind up in here up in her"

  • speakinmymind

    @ lakercrazy
    i don't call mexicans "wetbags"...don't even know what that is. my opinion is based on MY personal experiences as a legal, tax-paying US citizen. you can curse and rant all you want about my comments, but it won't change my stance on illegal immigrants - Mexican or otherwise. and no, they don't owe me anything but you can ASSume whatever you like.

    it's not worth reducing myself to a level of name-calling, neck rolling, etc. just because i don't agree with an anonymous person on a blog. like i've said many times on this board, opinions are like @$$holes, everybody has one.

  • speakinmymind

    @ Flo
    you know those "get me told" rants don't faze me... :lol:

  • LuvMySailor

    I'm sorry Sandra but how is this Obama's fault?

    He was scheduled to be DEPORTED before he got married and received his green card. He knew this was coming.

    The one thing that is sad about this story though is the fact you have millions of illegal others who are not being penelized.

  • lakercrazy

    oh yeah i forgot were suppose to be mother teresa on this blog now u right every body got and opinion but the fact that YOU think that ur tax payer money is paying for immigrants medical bill is just ignorant but then again like u said everybody has an a**hole thatisall

  • http://mobile.twitter.com/iamwonderchick2 LesBinLuv

    I wont comment on this because I work for them!

  • BamaBeauty

    @ Laker

    I can see why it would not be easy to just be able to take time out to learn English. Yet,it is so vital to your economic improvement. Maybe people like yourself, who understand the struggle, can help start up programs or assist with English in your community. I'm sure there are thousands of super intelligent immigrants that are working below their potential because of the language barrier. If they don't learn English they will forever be stuck in the stereotypical job setting for them.

    Again I say, we all have to some extra improvement sometimes because we are the minority. We are >>>>>here<<<<<<< Laker..I understand.

  • FloridaChick813

    :rofl: @ laker

    "wetbacks" - Mexicans got that name because they used to have to cross a river(Rio Grande) to get into the United States.

  • FloridaChick813

    :lol: @ Speak, and thats what we love about cha ;)

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @LAKER CRAZY

    I'm with you in the sense that "tax payers" think they footin the bill for someone. LOL. Chit is laughable. Most of them are tax cheats for one anyway. Like you said, they don't hesitate to take advantage of the cheap labor of imigrants but then wanna complain when the imigrants get a small sliver of a benefit? WTF?

    Immigrants do need to learn English and chit tho. :yes:

  • FloridaChick813

    In my opinion, anyone who desires to live in the United States should learn and be able to speak English. English is the predominantly spoken language here, and we should not have to adapt to other languages'.

    I thought I read somewhere that by a certain year (20 such and such) all Americans will be required to learn Spanish. I think it's great that people would be fluent in two languages, but I think it should be a choice.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    :rofl: @ Flo and Laker

    Ok, if you aren't talking about sex and talking about positive issues within our communities, why is still a problem? Everything is always a problem with some folk.

    @ Laker

    Both learning Spanish and English is hard. To obtain my diploma and degree I HAD to learn the introductory/intermediate level of the language. I've learned a lot of the history of Hispanics so I can respect their culture but the effort should be made at some point.

    SN: (A quick joke) And my hispanics acquaintances have laughed with me on this one. I can be standing in line, the cashier is Spanish, a spanish patron walks up to the counter speaking spanish and seems to have a concern about a product. Next thing I know, the spanish person's merchandise is being rang up! :lol: I am tired of being bamboozled :lol:

  • FloridaChick813

    I speak "Spanglish". Had to take Spanish in high school, and when my madre gets p*ssed off she tends to run off the mouth in Spanish. I can understand it better then I can speak it though! :lol:

  • lakercrazy

    @free u did get bamboozled lol

  • lakercrazy

    @flo spanglish is my first language lol

  • Mamacita

    @Laker Hell school ain't easy but it's something people do to get a good job. Getting up at 530 and driving to work ain't easy fopr me but if i wanna make this good engineering money i'll get my azz up and do it! It's not about whether they WANT to learn the language but the fact that they NEED to learn the language to function. Sometimes we have to make SACRIFICES and do what needs to be done in order to reap certain benefits. If you want to come here LEGALLY and make money I have NO issue with that but don't act like it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to learn English because to survive in this country you need to speak it!

  • speakinmymind

    @ lakercrazy
    i have no idea where you're getting any of your asinine assumptions about who i am as a person, when we've never met each other or had a personal conversation from which you could logically draw any assumptions about my intelligence or character. nowhere in my original comment did i insult Mexicans or immigrants, in general. seems this is an issue close to your heart and i can understand that cuz we all are passionate about matters that hit close to home.

    i stand by my opinion - as ignorant as it may seem to you, it's still my opinion. you and Man can assume i cheat on taxes, don't pay taxes, etc...it's irrelevant to me cuz what either of you eat don't make me shyt. disagreeing is a part of life and the name-calling speaks more about your character and maturity than any comment i could make about my stance on illegal immigrants.

  • starr

    I wish i had continued learning spanish...I luved the language.

    If you are living in a country, yes you should learn the language, but people act like english is a easy language to learn. There was a chinese kid in one my biz class told me he's still learning...even though he sounds fluent to me. The japanese lady at my job been in the country for I think 10 years...her english is good, but I'm careful with the words i use....otherwise...we start playing dictionary. But english is not easy for them. If someone doesn't speak english...I used my limited skills of spanish to try n understand that, and not brush them off.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SPEAKIN MY MIND
    "you and Man can assume i cheat on taxes"
    ______________________________________________________________________________

    ¿¿¿ :blink: ???

    DA F.U.C.K.?

    I didn't say, nor do I care, that you cheat on your taxes. BUT, Americans DO cheat on their taxes and then bytch about where "their" tax dollars are going.

    If it's your opinion than state it and roll out. No need to explain the chit and defend it. Someone don't like it, fugg 'em. :shrugs:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ Laker

    It happens ALL the time down here. I've had so many verbal altercations because it's so unfair and rude! But anywho, it's really too early in the morning for the e-fighting, still sipping on my :coffee: Sandra has been trying to keep us occupied with the multiple sunglass posts :lol: Can we all just get along (Rodney King voice) at least up until about 3pm...

  • lakercrazy

    @apeakmymind well like i said u have yours i have mine i see it how i want to and you see it how u want to never said anything about ur intelligence or character i said ur assumption that ur tax payer money pay for theyre bill ok you know waht i aint going to explain again hell im tired next post :coffee:

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    Maybe I'm slow or naive but is it possible that his deportation had nothing to do with her letter to the President and everything to do with the fact that there was already an existing order for deportation and had been for awhile? I'm not saying I don't feel bad for the man or his wife, but everything can not be blamed on the President. Not to mention they would've been better off contacting their governor, house rep or senator before sending a letter to the President due to the amount of channels, screenings and all that stuff that his mail has to go through. Maybe I missed something though since I am kinda tired so I'll go read it again

    Okay so I read again and according to them this was based off the letter but is there proof? How do her husband and Obama have the same history when they hail from two different countries (Africa is huge) and Obama was born a citizen? Does being of mixed race make the law less the law? Its sad but umm yeah, not that sad because unfortunately in the eyes of current laws he was technically a criminal (for being in the country without permission) and he did get released rather quickly in comparison to other immigrants who've been picked up with similar stories. And lastly, WHY WRITE DIRECT TO THE PRESIDENT WHEN THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO COME FIRST!!! That's why we have local and state government offices. That letter would've had to pass through homeland security first, duh!! Idk I'm just tired of everything being the Presidents fault.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    I am satisfied with my President and I think the fact that his demeanor is so realistic people feel too connected, like he's a "homeboy," and they feel like they can just reach out and touch him. I've run across too many people who have told me they wrote Obama. I'm like what? :rolleyes:

  • allwrightyden

    :cosign: @Speakinmymind I like you! I like a person who tells it like it is and don't even raise an eyebrow...that's whats up! :wink:

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    Glad to be of assitance @ Free and Miss Harlem!

    Hey Les!

    I think it's a double standard because I can guarantee alot of these politicians have some illegal immigrants keeping up their well manicured lawns or helping build their houses!

  • Krysi J

    how da hell did this subject of ALL THINGS take a turn for the WORse?? :shrug:

  • Krysi J

    IS THAT MY???
    COULD IT BE???
    HEYYYY KRYYSSSAAYYYY! I SEE YOU GIVIN ME THAT LOOK!
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWwwwwwNNNNNnnnnNNN!! :hugs:

    where have you been???!!!

  • Ace

    Krysi J says:

    how da hell did this subject of ALL THINGS take a turn for the WORse?? :shrug:

    _________________________________________________________________________

    *tries to look innocent but fails miserably*

    I tried to back out before it erupted but it was too late i swear!...

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    @Lakercrazy, I know people who've been in LA 40+ years and still have not bothered to learn English while I've been in LA 10 and HAD to learn basic spanish in order to be able to go anywhere out here or even answer a reception line. No other country in the world would accept that. If you are new to a country take the time to learn the language. Most people don't spontaneously cross borders and decide to stay which means take the time to prepare before coming. Learning at least a working knowledge of the language needs to be mandatory before visas are given period. If I go to Mexico, Cuba, France, Italy anywhere and decide to live and work I better know the language, hell if I want to visit I better have some type of minimal knowledge of the language, a study guide, translator or something or I am screwed so why is that okay in this country. And as far as immigration laws go I believe they need to be revamped but they also need to be enforced because not a country in the world would allow non citizens to live, work and not have any type of documentation authorizing it so why is it okay here? This country is so afraid of offending that they will allow anything to go and that's a huge reason why the United States is in the financial, cultural bullshit crisis its in now..

  • Chgoprime

    Somebody asked above do illegal aliens get tuition reimbursement? I don't know if this has already been answered but yes they do. I have worked in government and also Human Resources.

    They do get full tuition reimbursement and pay zero taxes. They would march into our payroll department pissed if any taxes ever came out of their checks H1B visa holders do not pay taxes. It does differ state to state. Most aliens have the "OPTION" to pay taxes but its not required as it is for us....

    Most employers reimburse employees between 40-60% for tuition. But aliens get 100%.

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    Kysipoo I was bangin in Lil Rock! LOL! I was out of town for a few days

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    When thinking you are above the law goes horribly wrong...I really can't believe she wrote the letter and I really can't believe becuz of her status in her career that she thought she ranked! Nope you DONT!

  • renegadesince1985

    I don't understand why people hate on immigrants so much...after all, wasn't this country built by immigrants? I'm an immigrant...and I have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get anything. So I just don't believe that there are illegals out there living "high off the hog" not paying taxes, getting free medicine, getting tuition assistance etc. I mean I'm sure some fall through the cracks, but people make it seem like they're just here to get free chit. Why don't you blame the AMERICAN CITIZENS that keep hiring them. I mean they wouldn't come if they couldn't make money, right? :shrugs:

    Most employers reimburse employees between 40-60% for tuition. But aliens get 100%."

    Where did you get this info? I need to know so I can apply. Cause as far as I know, if you hire an illegal they usually get paid under the table cause they have no documentation. So I highly doubt that employers are paying 100% for education that they can't write-off at tax time.

  • lakercrazy

    renegadesince1985 says:

    I don’t understand why people hate on immigrants so much…after all, wasn’t this country built by immigrants? I’m an immigrant…and I have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get anything. So I just don’t believe that there are illegals out there living “high off the hog” not paying taxes, getting free medicine, getting tuition assistance etc. I mean I’m sure some fall through the cracks, but people make it seem like they’re just here to get free chit. Why don’t you blame the AMERICAN CITIZENS that keep hiring them. I mean they wouldn’t come if they couldn’t make money, right?

    Most employers reimburse employees between 40-60% for tuition. But aliens get 100%.”

    Where did you get this info? I need to know so I can apply. Cause as far as I know, if you hire an illegal they usually get paid under the table cause they have no documentation. So I highly doubt that employers are paying 100% for education that they can’t write-off at tax time.
    :preach:

  • brucebaner1

    FYI - There are plenty of countries that don't force you to learn their language. Sweden is one that I can think of now. Part of being free in America is you have the choice to NOT learn english. Also part of being free is having the ability to say "why the hell don't you speak english!!" I agree that mexicans contributed to the infrastructure of America and they take the jobs no one wants the catch is, black people were forced to work and WE made this country so that Mexicans could come and take the jobs WE left behind. So let's just thank a Mexican and hopefully he/she understands :D

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    Chgoprime, thanks for answering the tuition question cause I forgot to include that, as well as the fact that (at least in CA) children of illegal immigrants are automatically entitled to a free public education, free meals, medical assistance, food stamps and other state programs which are in fact paid for out of state and federal taxes that working people pay out of their payroll, on their property, cigarettes, lotto tickets (since the state lotto goes to education) and things of that nature, I feel for those working illegally, I know its not easy but unfortunately its also a crime and therefore only worthy of so much sympathy. There are legal ways to get what you want or need, yes it may take work, time and effort but don't commit a crime and ask for lenience based off sympathy and I've personally witnessed horrible deportation cases but still a crime is a crime. And CA is broke, flat broke, running out of jobs, govt is screwed and cutting jobs and social programs left and right, legal citizens have to fight, scramble and beg for assistance and then an illegal can walk in and get the same assistance with no hassle. That's just not right, and @Speak pointing that out doesn't make you racist, insensitive to others plights or any of that but that's what the pc police would have everybody in this country believing. This is one of the only countries that will feed clothe and save everyone else while its own citizens are starving, living in poverty and struggling. Give away jobs by granting companies the right to build factories overseas for half the cost and then wonder why unemployment is so high?? Like seriously, wtf???

  • Chgoprime

    @renegadesince1985

    I guess you didn't read the part where I said that I've worked in government AND currently work in Human Resources. And YES CORPORATIONS will hire someone w/a green card i.e. non US citizen. And they ARE reimbursed at 100% for tuition.

  • brucebaner1

    @ lakercrazy - Americans feel entitled to this country, this is why we have hate towards immigrants. These so called immigrants (like we all aren't) are taking our tax dollars, commiting crimes, destroying schools, lowering home prices, etc. We don't see immigrants for all the good they do. Such as: Building homes, schools, roads, hospitals, becoming engineers, doctors, scientist, etc. If America didnt have immigrants its total population would probably be 10,000.

  • renegadesince1985

    This is one of the only countries that will feed clothe and save everyone else while its own citizens are starving, living in poverty and struggling.

    Yes because America is so helpful and just do these things out of the goodness of their heart :rolleyes: ...you better believe America only helps countries that they can gain something from in the future. For instance, Operation Iraqi Freedom....lol Freedom? That's laughable.

    give away jobs by granting companies the right to build factories overseas for half the cost and then wonder why unemployment is so high?? Like seriously, wtf???

    That's one of the principles America is built on....it's called Capitalism or Free Enterprise Just like foreign countries invest money in America....Ask China how much money America owes them :yes:

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    @Renegade the problem isn't immigration when done legally its the illegal immigration that is the problem and its a huge issue out here. I went to school with a girl who got deported from the only home she's known. Why? Because her mother came here illegally when she was a baby, got fake socials, and when she applied for college and financial aid they realized she wasn't a citizen. Her mom was here 18 years and didn't bother to get citizenship. When I was doing retirement/pension work I had so many clients who upon applying to retire learned their pension was set to go elsewhere because someone else had their social and they were then forced to prove that they were the rightful owners of that money. Not to mention those who'd worked here illegally for YEARS using fake social after fake social just to retire and find out they couldn't get shit without finding every social they used and basically reporting themselves. Until I went into HR I had no idea how big of a problem it was, not to mention the amount of time I wasted whenever hiring for a position because I had to check each and every social to ensure we were complying with the law and hiring only those legally able to work. There's a right and wrong way to do things and you can't start off wrong and then suddenly say I want to do the right thing and cry when it doesn't go your way

  • kwall

    i didn't think it was possible...but does this lady have the same gums as gary coleman's wife?

  • renegadesince1985

    @renegadesince1985

    I guess you didn’t read the part where I said that I’ve worked in government AND currently work in Human Resources. And YES CORPORATIONS will hire someone w/a green card i.e. non US citizen. And they ARE reimbursed at 100% for tuition.

    Well if they have a greencard they aren't illegal so what's the big effing deal?? So legals aren't entitled to jobs either? And what are their motivations for paying 100%? Why would a corporation pay 100% for a legal resident and not a citizen...that just sounds stupid...

    And I have a greencard so again...please let me know these corporations so I can apply.

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    And rene look at the problems that have come from that? Look at Detroit and the auto industry, if we kept it in house do you think that city and the state of MI would be in the position they are in? How many factory towns are ruined when those jobs moved overseas? This economy is fucked because we gave away our jobs so that the factory and business owners could get more financial returns in their pocket. Money which is not being adequately put back into this economy due to the tax credits they get for going overseas. And Iraqi Freedom was a joke and a waste of money true but how many other causes are going overseas but are needed here? Stay up late and watch infomercials and half the charities are sending money overseas and the other half is going to animals. How much is going to kids in projects starving? In half ass schools not learning? In communities in this country which have been levelled by disaster, destroyed by loss of jobs, poverty and drugs? @Bruce we are not all immigrants, I for one have Cherokee in me, I'm just under half Native and my black side didn't choose to come here. Maybe yours did but mine did not so no we are not all immigrants.

  • renegadesince1985

    @Ms. Everything

    I definitely understand what you're saying...and I agree...people should do things legally. My parents did. But my comment was based more so on the overall disdain for all immigrants...legal or not.

    But as far as the illegal thing goes. If America wants to take a stance on illegal immigration then they need to devote more $$ to the borders and have stiff penalties for businesses that hire illegals. But IMO that won't happen cause corporations make too much money off them. For example...my friend's husband is a manager of Wal-Mart and he says they pay illegals little or nothing to do the overnight stocking at his store.

  • Danielle84

    I :heart: Speakinmymind lol

    I love your bluntness, I think we are e-sisters at heart! You say what I think but don't say :rofl:

  • lakercrazy

    @BRUCE all im saying is that what immigrants get is not free we work for it and yes they do need to learn english but its not required...part of this country such as california and texas were part of mexico therefore who would be consider the immigrant? imjsutsaying

  • speakinmymind

    @ Ms. Everything
    they can think i'm a racist, non-tax paying cheat :lol: that's their opinion, i don't care. i agree with everything you've said...keep on speaking your mind!

  • lakercrazy

    most immigrants work for close to nothing at most companies and dont get to do taxes at the bigening of the year so nothing they receive is free this contry was build by immigrants

  • speakinmymind

    @ Danielle84,
    :hug: i'm just a firm believer in right is right and wrong is wrong. it has nothing to do with race.

  • renegadesince1985

    @Ms.Everything

    I cannot agree that the Detroit auto industry failed because of outsourcing. The Detroit auto industry failed because GM failed keep up with other manufacturers and failed to offer their customers fuel-efficient cars and new innovations for a competitive price. That coupled with the crazy union demands and corporate over-spending and irresponsibility.

    So we should just stop helping other countries and just worry about our own huh? That sort of selfish mentality I cannot be a part of. We are all citizens of the world, that's how I see it. As long as you're helping somebody, how can it be wrong?

    Furthermore, these infomercials most of the time are from SHADY CHARITIES that make money off those little babies with the bulging bellies. Trust me. I worked in the non-profit world. It's a free for all.

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    @Rene I have zero issues with those who come and do things the right way its the ones that don't and then ask for sympathy, concern and assistance when they started on the wrong path from the beginning. And I'm a huge advocate for immigration reform but it needs to be done in a way utilizing common sense, fairly and most importantly once done it needs to be enforced properly. I don't see that happening anytime soon in this ass backwards country but it needs to be done.

    @Speak, lol thanks

    @Laker, key word is USED to be part of Mexico, those states haven't been for over 50 years though I'm sure those people who lived here when it was taken over probably were given some provisions to let them stay. In either case, after all this time they shouldn't be here illegally now

  • ricanlbc

    So many issues since his election. Since nothing is private and there are probably people that read this blog because of Sandra's constant opposition to his belief's, and general direction! I am going to refrain from saying what I really would like to say!

    Have you ever seen the movie ,ENEMY OF THE STATE WITH WILL SMITH? THAT IS OUR WORLD.....PERIOD POINT BLANK!

  • EJLOVE

    Hello,
    I just needed to say that America was first built on the backs of SLAVES, please lets not forget. Also lets not forget the STRUGGLES and hardships of blacks who were considered less than in this country...THAT being said, I truly believe that supporting the Hispanic community, partnering with them to work toward better laws and policies regarding immigration would have an overall benefit for both races. Blacks and Hispanics organization should and could form community trainings...blacks teaching English to Hispanics and Hispanics teaching Spanish to blacks...giving us a stronger connection, more access to great job opportunities... Its IMO ridiculous to send people who have been here and productive for more than 10 years BACK any were...and that goes for ANY immigrant... We as a people should not want nor participate in ANY legislature or movement that promotes discrimination...I think we should really stop worrying what others are getting...ie funds, housing, assistance...because they were designed for the people...lets work together...now who gon teach me some SPANBONIC's...lol

  • Chgoprime

    @renegade

    You are so defensive. I guess because you know all that I've said so far is TRUE. If I sound stupid then maybe you have comprehension problems and thats your issue. I have nothing against you or any other immigrant illegal or otherwise. Hell everybody in America is illegal if you ask me with exception of American Blacks, Mexicans and Native Americans. So whatever, you have alot of hang ups I was answering someone else's question to begin with. You cannot say I've said anything negative or false. To answer your questions about which corporations, it's several corporations sweetie pick one...

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    I spent time in the non profit world too and agree BUT so many people are giving money to those shady charities and not doing hardly anything to help the needy here or humans in general. And you're partly right about Detroit but at the same time many companies that were providing materials went overseas, not to mention how many were buying foreign made vehicles versus American, they screwed up true but the outcome could have been better had we been more focused on our own economy and where our dollars were going imo

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    @Speakinmymind, You have to ignore certain cubicle critters or your blood pressure will rise. Not everyone is a cubicle critter just because they use the internet while at work. I am only referring to the haters. They know who they are.

  • speakinmymind

    @ attorneymom...thanks! people want to make it an issue of legal US citizens hating immigrants or Mexicans and that's not the case, at least for me it isn't. my opinion was regarding ILLEGAL immigrants who come to this country VOLUNTARILY and utilize government-funded services. i have no issue with people who apply for and are granted US citizenship, then come here, work and pay into the US tax system. they are entitled to federal assistance LEGALLY.

    anyone who read my initial comment and wrongly interpreted racism or hatred towards immigrants, CHOSE to interpret it that way to suit their own agenda.

  • Chgoprime

    @SPEAK
    @ attorneymom…thanks! people want to make it an issue of legal US citizens hating immigrants or Mexicans and that’s not the case, at least for me it isn’t. my opinion was regarding ILLEGAL immigrants who come to this country VOLUNTARILY and utilize government-funded services. i have no issue with people who apply for and are granted US citizenship, then come here, work and pay into the US tax system. they are entitled to federal assistance LEGALLY.

    anyone who read my initial comment and wrongly interpreted racism or hatred towards immigrants, CHOSE to interpret it that way to suit their own agenda.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thats true! Insecure or in denial about their situation. It has nothing to w/racism. People w/visa's, green cards, etc ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES. Keyword REQUIRED for those of you using the short yellow bus, they have the option most opt not to.

  • texarican mamacita

    Just one question....

    How many who are hootin and hollerin about illegal immigrants (read Mexicans) using our taxes-paid money for their medical, welfare, tuition, etc... BUY FOOD STAMPS OFF THEIR BUDDIES OR LEND OUT/CLAIM A KID COME TAX TIME FOR SOME EXTRA DOUGH OR EVEN GO ON WELFARE THROUGH ILLEGAL WAYS?????

    I chose these examples for a reason; ALL have been mentioned on this board. HYPOCRITES....

    NO to illegal immigration; however, NO to hypocrisy and anti immigrant sentiment to others because whats good for the gander is good for the goose. Whats that about the Golden Rule....

  • LuvMySailor

    renegadesince1985 says:

    I don’t understand why people hate on immigrants so much…after all, wasn’t this country built by immigrants? I’m an immigrant…and I have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get anything
    ----------------------------
    It's the illegal ones that are catching hell. Bottom line, it is not fair that my friend has been over 10K for her husband to become a citizen and there is no "press 3 for Arabic" for him. It is not fair that if you get hit by an illegal with no insurance your premium goes up. It is not fair that a lot of them are paid under the table, pay no federal or state taxes, but send their children to school, hospitals and receive benefits all the while some, not all, steal other's SSN numbers.

    Bottom line, this issue will not go away and frankly is a why to introduce the national ID card (it's in the 'bi-partisan' immigration reform bill)
    Dems want the Hispanic vote and GOPers want the cheap labor. All the while everyone suffers: the illegal who works long hours in fear of ICE, and the citizen whose working class is going to cheaper labor.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    hey Texa...girl where have you been ..and why did you leave twitter????

  • LuvMySailor

    However

    It is TOTALLY not fair this guy gets deported by the President's aunt gets granted asylum.

  • speakinmymind

    texarican mamacita says:
    Just one question….
    How many who are hootin and hollerin about illegal immigrants (read Mexicans) using our taxes-paid money for their medical, welfare, tuition, etc… BUY FOOD STAMPS OFF THEIR BUDDIES OR LEND OUT/CLAIM A KID COME TAX TIME FOR SOME EXTRA DOUGH OR EVEN GO ON WELFARE THROUGH ILLEGAL WAYS?????
    I chose these examples for a reason; ALL have been mentioned on this board. HYPOCRITES….
    NO to illegal immigration; however, NO to hypocrisy and anti immigrant sentiment to others because whats good for the gander is good for the goose. Whats that about the Golden Rule…
    -----------------------------------------------
    maybe you run with people who do this kinda mess, but i don't, have never in the past, and never will. using broad generalizations to bolster your stance on illegal immigrants is pointless and does nothing to further the cause at hand.

  • texarican mamacita

    Hey Missy,

    I am in Job search mode and was advised to close any social networking sites: Facebook, twitter, etc. by my career counselor and by the office I am interning with.

    Anything that can keep me from getting a good job after graduation next month has got to go, lol!

    I have been lurking, just like you.... I can't hang up in here but drop in every once in a while when I have to get something off my chest and then I get my ghost on, lol.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Alright then..Good luck .I hope you get the job *crosses fingers*..too much hoe ish going on SR ..so If i was you I would stay lurking :lol:

  • Chgoprime

    LuvMySailor says:

    renegadesince1985 says:

    I don’t understand why people hate on immigrants so much…after all, wasn’t this country built by immigrants? I’m an immigrant…and I have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get anything
    —————————-
    It’s the illegal ones that are catching hell. Bottom line, it is not fair that my friend has been over 10K for her husband to become a citizen and there is no “press 3 for Arabic” for him. It is not fair that if you get hit by an illegal with no insurance your premium goes up. It is not fair that a lot of them are paid under the table, pay no federal or state taxes, but send their children to school, hospitals and receive benefits all the while some, not all, steal other’s SSN numbers.

    Bottom line, this issue will not go away and frankly is a why to introduce the national ID card (it’s in the ‘bi-partisan’ immigration reform bill)
    Dems want the Hispanic vote and GOPers want the cheap labor. All the while everyone suffers: the illegal who works long hours in fear of ICE, and the citizen whose working class is going to cheaper labor.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    The end!

  • texarican mamacita

    No I dont "run" with people like that, I said in my post people on this blog in the messages have claimed with pride how they cheat the system using the methods I mentioned.

    But this right here:
    "using broad generalizations to bolster your stance on illegal immigrants is pointless and does nothing to further the cause at hand"

    -is pure comedic irony because it is exactly the point of my post. Don't do (or write) unto others which you would not like done unto you. Don't generalize a whole group of people based on your limited personal experience or the perception given by the media of those same people.

    As much hell that Sandra catches when she is preaching on conservative values and beliefs you would think there wouldn't be as many sound bites straight off of Fox News in this joint. Peash!!!

  • HotTamale

    Ace says:

    this may sound ignorant and
    but can we please get English added to the requirements for citizenship?
    I tired of having to learn Spanish just so i can read the McDonalds menu…
    _________
    FloridaChick813 says:

    In my opinion, anyone who desires to live in the United States should learn and be able to speak English. English is the predominantly spoken language here, and we should not have to adapt to other languages’.

    I thought I read somewhere that by a certain year (20 such and such) all Americans will be required to learn Spanish. I think it’s great that people would be fluent in two languages, but I think it should be a choice.
    _____
    :cosign: with absolutely no hate on immigrates!

  • brucebaner1

    Why are we acting like America is really trying hard to keep illegal immigrants out. We need illegal immigrants in this country the same way we need legal immigrants. Who is going to do those cash under the table jobs in America? The illegal immigrants work for a cheaper rate which permits the land owner to cut more of a profit which makes the home a little more afordable on our end (in most cases). Can you imagine if home builders had a union and they decided to strike and not build homes and buildings? We need to get off our soapboxes and understand we need illegal immigrants for our infrastructure to flourish.

  • brucebaner1

    @ HotTamale - If this is the land of the "free", why would you care if someone didn't speak english? Do you realize there are more spanish speaking people in America than Blacks? Its not like these people are teaching english. You don't need to speak anything but pictures and numbers in Mcdonalds :-P

  • brucebaner1

    @ texarican mamacita - you should Google yourself with all your old email addresses and anything that used your name as a tag. I always Google my new employees. It has definately made a difference if I was hiring someone if they had negative images/comments on the Internet.

  • speakinmymind

    @ texarican mamacita
    if you read MY comments, i clearly stated that people who are here illegally should be made to leave - no broad generalization based on my personal experience there and no media-based opinion either. but if you insist on making this a racial issue, so be it. i think we can all disagree and in disagreeing we can also UNDERSTAND differing points of view...doesn't mean i'll end up agreeing with you, but i will at least understand where you're coming from. it's not personal for me and there was no comedic irony in anything i said in any of my posts.

  • KrayZKat

    I'm all for people wanting a better life, but do it the right way. My Jamaican grandmother (RIP, Nana) came to the U.S. decades ago, and she became a legal citizen. I also have a Mexican friend who came here and went through hell trying to be a legal U.S. citizen. He had to travel back and forth to Mexico numerous times, but he did it, and proudly, now, he's a U.S. citizen.

    Nobody's hating on immigrants. People just don't like the fact that many come here and get benefits they are not entitled to. It's that simple. You can't break the law and then expect favors. It isn't fair to all those that didn't break the law.

    Illegals strain this country's resources. People say, "they are taking jobs no one else will." People forget many of these employers are paying lower than minimum wage, therefore, it drives down wages of Americans would want to take care of their families. Who can work for less than minimum wage? Look at California. They are broke in large part due to illegal immigration.

    I say go after these companies that employ illegals and hit them where it hurts.

  • KrayZKat

    English is the language of business and commerce. Foreigner all over the world learn to speak it at an early age. I was say in this country, it is paramount that it be spoken. Spanish speaking people don't live in a bubble. They live amongst people who primarily speak English, so why would someone want to isolate themselves?

  • renegadesince1985

    People w/visa’s, green cards, etc ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES. Keyword REQUIRED for those of you using the short yellow bus, they have the option most opt not to.

    Well that's a damn lie...and I don't give a fluck what you want to say about who riding what bus.

    "If you are a resident alien (pass the greencard test), you must follow the same tax laws as U.S. citizens. You are taxed on income from all sources, both within and outside the United States. You will file Form 1040EZ (PDF), Form 1040A (PDF), or Form 1040 (PDF) depending on your tax situation. The return is due by April 15, and should be filed with the service center for your area. If the due date falls on a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday, the due date is delayed until the next business day." -IRS . GOV

    Stop spreading bull s h it

  • LuvMySailor

    brucebaner1 says:

    We need to get off our soapboxes and understand we need illegal immigrants for our infrastructure to flourish
    --------------------------
    Actually, the underpaid illegal immigrant is what is undermining our economy. Fact is, Americans are starting to see the light because more middle class and working class Americans are loosing their jobs and are finding that the jobs that were once readily available in construction, the food industry, and road work are now gone because greedy business owners are keeping the profits for themselves and will not pay Americans the proper wage. Americans do want those jobs but we will only take them at fair rates.
    No offense, but California is a prime example. They are now bankrupt because it costs them $10BILLION a year to take care of their illegals while their middle class is gone and illegals are not paying state taxes. The Center for Immigration reports that it costs the American people $35 Billion a year to care for illegals. Yeah, they pick lettuce but they also drain this country that already has the largest debt any country in the recorded history has ever had

  • mochacashmere

    :popcorn: <------ really crunch n munch

  • Druma_G

    I guess we should all start writing letters to the white house about our personal problems because the president is black and he reads all his mail in his gucci bathrobe ... SMH at the nerves of people...and brown are those your lips on that avatar???? i cant focus HAHA

  • HotTamale

    brucebaner1 says:

    @ HotTamale – If this is the land of the “free”, why would you care if someone didn’t speak english? Do you realize there are more spanish speaking people in America than Blacks? Its not like these people are teaching english. You don’t need to speak anything but pictures and numbers in Mcdonalds

    ________
    @bruce, I care because i coordinate an International Visiting Scientist Program in which role I have to constantly "attempt" to translate to and for them. It can be very difficult for all. For the most part the scientist do learn to speak english rather quickly as they know that it is in their best interest. Now I do understand the people that I work with are professionals so they may have an advantage/and the urgency to learn the language but speaking english in America will benefit the guy that is building houses or working at walmart as well. so my stance remain...they at some point need to learn to speak english if they are going to live in the United States of America. If I plan to move to France or Spain then rest assured that I will make every attempt to speak russian or spanish as much as possible. I'm pretty sure that the McDonalds quip was not to be taken seriously. : )

  • HotTamale

    KrayZKat says:

    English is the language of business and commerce. Foreigner all over the world learn to speak it at an early age. I was say in this country, it is paramount that it be spoken. Spanish speaking people don’t live in a bubble. They live amongst people who primarily speak English, so why would someone want to isolate themselves?

    ________
    :cosign: Why are some people taking offense to "speaking english"? I honestly don't get it. I don't think that anyone is "hating" on immigrants or saying anything negative about them. :shrug:

  • Chgoprime

    @Renegade

    If you are a resident alien (pass the greencard test), you must follow the same tax laws as U.S. citizens. You are taxed on income from all sources, both within and outside the United States. You will file Form 1040EZ (PDF), Form 1040A (PDF), or Form 1040 (PDF) depending on your tax situation. The return is due by April 15, and should be filed with the service center for your area. If the due date falls on a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday, the due date is delayed until the next business day.” -IRS . GOV

    Stop spreading bull s h it

    --------------------------------------------------------------

    Wow ignorant is an understatement for you sweetie. Again genius I mentioned VISAS AND GREENCARDS. I don't do bulls h i t Hun. I've worked in payroll you know damn well yall have the option of NOT paying taxes regardless of your status as long as you're NOT A US CITIZEN. I don't know who your simple azz think you talking to but, maybe you need to scroll back up to my comment when I said it differs by state. You can copy and paste everything from that website. The fact still remains. SR family is WELL informed. If non US citizens were ALL Paying taxes like everybody else then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Move around w/that dumb shit....

  • Chgoprime

    “If you are a resident alien (pass the greencard test), you must follow the same tax laws as U.S. citizens."

    Look how you contradicted yourself girl please....

  • Mamacita

    I have to post this. It was located in an email i recieved not too long ago

    "New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message...

    1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
    * * * * * * * *
    2. All ballots will be in this nation's language..
    * * * * * * * *
    3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
    * * * * * * * *
    4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
    * * * * * * * *
    5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office
    * * * * * * * *
    6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.
    * * * * * * * *
    7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
    * * * * * * * *
    8. If foreigners come here and buy land... Options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
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    9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
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    10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted and when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you."
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    Too strict ????

    The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!

    So while everyone is on here talking about AMERICA not being fair RUN TELL THAT!!!!!

  • Mamacita

    HotTamale says:

    brucebaner1 says:

    @ HotTamale – If this is the land of the “free”, why would you care if someone didn’t speak english? Do you realize there are more spanish speaking people in America than Blacks? Its not like these people are teaching english. You don’t need to speak anything but pictures and numbers in Mcdonalds

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    FYI BLACKS ARE STILL THE MINORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even if there are more spanish speaking individuals what about all the OTHER AMERICANS THAT SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!! Black people make up what percentage of the population??? How does your statement make sense? Black people aren't the only people in America just in case you forgot that...

  • https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Mamacita says:

    FYI BLACKS ARE STILL THE MINORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    And blacks helped Obama get into office. But what has he done for blacks since he got into office? Not a thing! But if you're gay or Mexican, he's got your back! :thumbsup:

  • renegadesince1985

    You're the dummy

    A resident alien is A GREENCARD HOLDER!!!!!!!!!!! Once again...

    If you are a resident alien (pass the greencard test..for IGNORANT PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE A GREENCARD), you must follow the same tax laws as U.S. citizens. You are taxed on income from all sources, both within and outside the United States. You will file Form 1040EZ (PDF), Form 1040A (PDF), or Form 1040 (PDF) depending on your tax situation. The return is due by April 15, and should be filed with the service center for your area. If the due date falls on a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday, the due date is delayed until the next business day.” -IRS . GOV

    I don't deny that illegals do not pay taxes...But people like me who are here LEGALLY that HAVE GREENCARDS MUST ABIDE BY THE SAME TAX LAWS AS US CITIZENS. Do you work for the frigggin IRS? IF not then STFU. I have a Greencard so I think I know what the hell I'm talking about.

    Furthermore, when you're applying to become a Citizen of the USA...you have to provide your tax returns for each year you've been here. I know this because I'm having to do it now. SO....if I wasn't required to pay taxes, then why would uncle Sam care about my tax returns? Huh? You got all the damn answers.

    You think if there was a way I didn't have to pay taxes, that I would? Why don't you go back to QuickBooks and do the payroll cause you obviously don't know s h i t.

    Auntie...I know at one point you had a Greencard....please tell this idiot that you had to pay taxes...

  • allwrightyden

    #Team Speakinmymind :cheer1: