Steve Forbes of Forbes magazine recently coordinated a sit-down meeting with legendary billionaire investor Warren Buffett and former drug dealer-turned-rapper Jay Z in Omaha.
The meeting was part of the Forbes 400 Summit, and Forbes’ goal was to pick the brains of the two men to expose the secrets of their rise to success.
The cover piece describes Jay Z’s most recent chess move: buying his last album back from Def Jam so he, and only he, could reap the profits from the sales.
Big deal. He’s not the only rapper to buy his masters.
Jay-Z revealed that his last album, “The Blueprint 3,” which included the multi-platinum single “Empire State of Mind,” wasn’t originally set for release on his current Roc Nation imprint.
“The year I went over to create Roc Nation with Live Nation, I still had one album left to make with Def Jam. L.A. Reid, the chairman of Def Jam at the time, did a great thing for me. He allowed me to walk in and have the conversation with [chairman of parent company Universal Music Group] Doug Morris,” Jay said.
“I had to walk into Doug’s office the next day and buy an album back that might leak the next day…But it was worth it, you know. I was heading in a different direction and needed that freedom. It was a great decision for the company. They got some money. And a great decision for me.” [link]
The most interesting statement to come out of this incongruous meeting is 80-year-old Buffett’s musing that young people could “learn from” Jay Z — a former drug dealer who continues to glorify his criminal past.
“Jay is teaching in a lot bigger classroom than I’ll ever teach in,” Buffett said. “They’re going to learn from somebody. For a young person growing up he’s the guy to learn from.”
So Jay Z is a teacher now? This 40-year-old man who can’t even pull his pants up is teaching the youth of America? Please don’t make me laugh. Has Warren Buffet even listened to Jay Z’s music?
I respect Buffett’s business acumen, but he is clearly out of touch — and misinformed — when it comes to Hip Hop and it’s negative effects on the youth of America.
Jay Z may be the most prosperous and prominent rapper on the scene today. And he’s certainly smart enough to know when to put on a well-tailored suit and speak with near perfect grammar in mixed company.
But Jay Z is no role model or teacher. What he is is a great con artist.
If Jay Z really wanted to influence the youth of today in a positive manner, he could start by pulling his pants up.
Hello All. It’s Friday! Let me be the first to comment: I can’t wait til this fashion is history! It looks so dumb and stupid!
But JayZ ain’t!
here we go with u goin on in jay well he is to dam old for the i got shi* in my pants look
Stop being so hard on the empire that is Jay Z and Beyonce. Kids could learn some things from him. He’s a dude from the hood who turned himself into a great success. Not many people can say they’ve exchanged investment tips with Warren Buffet but Jay can. That’s impressive if you ask me.
If Jay Z really wanted to influence the youth of today in a positive manner, he could start by pulling his pants up.
sandra don’t be tempting the bishop
i guess selling drugs and making money talking on albums is the way to go…damn my parents for making me go to college i could have been married to beyawnce now!!!!!!!!!
well, if he was a current drug dealer, i would agree, but since the word former is in front of drug dealer, i have to say that he is a role model for some. 50 cent too…i don’t care how they dress, they have completely did a 180 from what they were doing before they were rapping.
i wonder if beyonk get paid for all the doors she opened for jayz seriously if anybody should be on the cover it should be p-diddy
hell he went from back-up dancer for Father MC to Mogul now that is balling
I’m not a Jigga fan….but black men sagging has nothing to do with Jay-Z. I wish people would stop blaming hip-hop for the problems with the youth. If hip-hop is able to influence or brainwash kids then their PARENTS need to do better.
I was in a waiting room the other day and a little boy…maybe 3 or 4 was walking around sagging so bad he had to hold his pants up. He was also dancing and singing “this right here is my swag…” He knew all the words to the song. He also turned to me and said…”Ay shawty…wassupp” Meanwhile his hoodrat of a mother stood by and laughed. Now you tell me that’s hip-hop’s fault….
The most interesting statement to come out of this incongruous meeting is 80-year-old Buffett’s musing that young people could “learn from” Jay Z
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He’s a damn fool if he believes that crock of sh!t. :/
But Jay Z is no role model or teacher. What he is is a great con artist.
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@ lexdiamonz says:
i wonder if beyonk get paid for all the doors she opened for jayz
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THANK YOU!!! When that bish said she was going to upgrade him she wasn’t lying. Warren Buffet wouldn’t be checking for Jay Z if he wasn’t married to America’s golden girl. Oprah wouldn’t have had his a** on her show either.
I like Jay but he’s an oppertunist for real. I really see his relationship to B as another good oppertunity for him.
renegadesince1985 says:
I’m not a Jigga fan….but black men sagging has nothing to do with Jay-Z. I wish people would stop blaming hip-hop for the problems with the youth. If hip-hop is able to influence or brainwash kids then their PARENTS need to do better.
I was in a waiting room the other day and a little boy…maybe 3 or 4 was walking around sagging so bad he had to hold his pants up. He was also dancing and singing “this right here is my swag…” He knew all the words to the song. He also turned to me and said…”Ay shawty…wassupp” Meanwhile his hoodrat of a mother stood by and laughed. Now you tell me that’s hip-hop’s fault….
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renegadesince1985 says:
I’m not a Jigga fan….but black men sagging has nothing to do with Jay-Z. I wish people would stop blaming hip-hop for the problems with the youth. If hip-hop is able to influence or brainwash kids then their PARENTS need to do better.
BTW JayZ looks just as old as Warren Buffet in that pic. Aint that a blimp?!?!?
EFF Jay and Warren who the fuk are they to tell me what I could learn from a Camel that raps! GTFOH
Ay shawty…wassupp” Meanwhile his hoodrat of a mother stood by and laughed. Now you tell me that’s hip-hop’s fault….
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This type of behavior appalls me and I’m even more disturbed that the stupid ROACH RAT did not admonish him-oh Ladies in honor of my ex moving back around the hood I’ve now dubbed the hoodrats – ROACH RATS – aren’t I a stinka
Yea he needs to pull up his pants…..besides that, the man is gettin money, no hate from my end.
@rene while I hear where you are coming from and I don’t solely blame hip hop or what have you some parents do parent and their kids are still heavily influenced by rappers. I work with youth ages 13-18 I see it all the time and most of these kids come from 2 parent homes but still love and look up to rappers the good/bad and ugly. Some parents can do better just like some rappers can IMO. There is plenty of blame but not enough solutions.
Somebody said on twitter they met warren buffet as well so they were not imprssed by Jay being on the cover
Saggin pants
JAY Z………….
………I LOVE YOU …….. 
Sidenote: There’s nothing I hate more in this world than roaches…. I swear everytime I see one I dry heave…
Why are people such haters?
Anyway, didn’t TI used to sell drugs too? At least Jay-Z and Beyonce weren’t busted for
and X!
Doesn’t TI wear his pants around his ankles as well?
If you’re gonna talk about one then talk about them all…but I guess those checks they cut you shut you up…
Isn’t Gucci man one of your beloved rappers also? Diidn’t he sell drugs as well?
Yeah ok Sandra…
When was the last time Jay Z was arrested or sent to jail?
at roach rats…..LOL! They not just any rat…they’re cross-bred with roaches….
Sidenote: There’s nothing I hate more in this world than roaches…. I swear
cuz I hate ROACHES 
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Exactly why decided to downgrade their name to Roach Rats
HOW SHOULD THIS MATURE, INTELLIGENT,TALENTED AND HANDSOME MAN HE WEARING HIS SHORTS ON THE BEACH SPENDING HIS YOUNG MONEY? :thinks:
Oh Puhlease!!
People kill me with this rappers and people in hip hop have to do better because of the influence crap. I grew up listening to all of the gangsta rap but at the end of the day I had what was called FEAR in my mother and the Law. When parents start whooping there kids a** and putting some fear in there hearts thats when the youth will change. #beadamnparent!
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Silhouette says:
When was the last time Jay Z was arrested or sent to jail?
DONT WORRY WE’LL WAIT

I’m not a big Jay Z fan, but I have to come to his defense. At least he isn’t still doing illegal things (to the world’s knowledge). Now he is a successful business man and he does deserve some acknowledgement for all he’s done. Maybe he can be T.I’s role model. But he does need to pull his damn pants up.
Side note: Parents need to start doing there job instead of allowing rappers and entertainers to be their children’s role models.
Mamacita says:
Why are people such haters?
Anyway, didn’t TI used to sell drugs too? At least Jay-Z and Beyonce weren’t busted for and X!
Doesn’t TI wear his pants around his ankles as well?
If you’re gonna talk about one then talk about them all…but I guess those checks they cut you shut you up…
Isn’t Gucci man one of your beloved rappers also? Diidn’t he sell drugs as well?
Yeah ok Sandra…

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“If you’re gonna talk about one then talk about them all…but I guess those checks they cut you shut you up…”
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WOW, this is gonna be a dam good day!
@Daisy
I feel you…but at the same time, coming from a two parent home don’t really mean shyt…You can have two parents who ignore their kids, or two parents who wanna be their kids’ “friend” rather than a parent.
I don’t think it’s a rapper’s responsibility to raise america’s kids…they shouldn’t be censoring themselves because parents don’t pay attention to what their kids listen to.
T.Y’z Cha Cha says:
Silhouette says:
When was the last time Jay Z was arrested or sent to jail?
DONT WORRY WE’LL WAIT
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Good point. No x pills on him when he gets pulled ova
#ImJustSayin
Out of all the Black doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, and entrepreneurs this man could have selected, he selects a rapper. Blank stare.
“Warren Buffet says young people could learn from Jay Z, a former drug dealer” <— Keyword: FORMER
That's all.
The devil is will always be a liar.
renegadesince1985 says:
I’m not a Jigga fan….but black men sagging has nothing to do with Jay-Z.
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Exactly, tho I really really hate it!
I will reiterate that I am NO Jay-z fan but Sandra, I think you are being unjust in your statements. Yeah, OK, we all hate how he dresses but his business savvy is on point.
Most rappers get money and do the most foolish things with their money such as put it on their teeth, ears, around their necks, get a zillion tattoos, buy a zillion cars and never even invest, open a business, give back or anything. Jay is the opposite of all that, like he is really making very wise grown man decisions with his money. I can’t front on that even if I wanted to.
Hell maybe it’s good he isn’t spending all his money on designer clothes and I know we always see him in that same jeep, maybe that’s good too. I never see him in any jewelry with the exception of that roc chain back in the day. Would I let him tell my 18 year old son anything about fashion…heck no but he could mos def talk to him about holding on to some money or making it grow!
He’s the devil but Jeezy and T.I. are great people huh? And don’t be misleading, most artists don’t own their masters because it costs a grip to get them. You make it sound common. Easy E’s kids are likely still eating off of Dr. Dre’s The Chronic. I agree that showing your drawers to the world looks silly, but I’m not gonna sit around and pretend Jay is some dumb dumb because of that. He has been a business man for waaaay more years than he was a drug dealer and he got out of the drug game 20 years ago. Give it a rest mama.
@rene I NEVER said it was a rappers job to raise kids I believe I said parents need to parent. I didn’t say 2 parent homes meant that the kids shld or wld be better I said that because ppl tend to come down hard on single mothers and it doesn’t matter either way. I am and will always be for more positive rappers or more balance esp on the radio as well as better parents for those who need to step up. Good parents can still have bad kids, kids who are influenced by rappers or kids who go astray. Like I said earlier there is enough BLAME to go around time for some solutions.
Allow me to reintroduce myself my name is HOV.
….black men sagging has nothing to do with Jay-Z. I wish people would stop blaming hip-hop for the problems with the youth. If hip-hop is able to influence or brainwash kids then their PARENTS need to do better.

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33 attorneymom says:
Out of all the Black doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, and entrepreneurs this man could have selected, he selects a rapper. Blank stare.
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Ooooooo that’s Krysi J. I didn’t know who ya’ll was talkin bout.
Hi Krysi
O P P O R T U N I T Y …
BEYONCE OPEN THE DOORS FOR JAY Z… REALLY 
SITTING DOWN, HAVING LUNCH, , BEING A BLACK MAN ON A COVER WITH A OLD WHITE MAN IN TODAYS DAY AND AGE…BUT NOT JUST ANY MAGAZINE…FORBES… IS NOT THE SAME THING AS “JUST” MEETING HIM :YAHOO:
CHB has entered the builidng with them legs
@Sandra, I love the way you spin your stories when you don’t like someone.
“Former Drug Dealer”—wicked writing skills = priceless commentaries
I agree with Attorney Mom which is y I say eff what Warren has to say WTF is that all about so now my son should sell drugs and then try his hand at rap all becuz of JayZ- SMFH at the IGNORANCE
@OHoney….hey girlie…dark brown skin pics are harder to find than LSLH pics…so ain’t finding pics close enough to be me.
“Out of all the Black doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, and entrepreneurs this man could have selected, he selects a rapper. Blank stare.”
So, what’s your point? No matter who he picked people would’ve have found someone “better”…
If anything we should look at it as an accomplishment but some people are so bitter and spiteful that they can ONLY see the negative in a situation.
HI KRYSI JJJJJJJJJJJJ
new post please!
Chiming In….
Not a huge Jay Z fan, but I will say this:
Jay is a Powerhouse. Dont be a HATER! You cant ignore his accomplishments.What dude from the hood didn’t sell drugs?? He turned his life around and his clothing line… that was just genius. He seems to have Invested his money wisely. He married the women he loves and he travels the world without a care in the world. I mean you HAVE to have money to charter yachts @ 75k a DAY!!!!! That is CRAZY MONEY.
Say what you will SANDRA, your a blogger this is what you are paid to DO. Don’t you love doing this? Getting paid to voice your opinion all the while PISSING PEOPLE OFF? Bet your creaming as I type? Than again your gig as an RN aint bad either eh? *smile*
attorneymom says:
Out of all the Black doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, and entrepreneurs this man could have selected, he selects a rapper. Blank stare.
YOU FORGOT ATTORNEYS
BLANK STARE
lol @Cha-Cha
“If you’re gonna talk about one then talk about them all…but I guess those checks they cut you shut you up…”
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WELL DAMN…
SANDRA PLEASE STOP HATIN ON JAY-Z…ITS NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR YOU…
HEY KRYSI
@Mama
What is the accomplishment Jay used drug money to become successful in corporate america – No I don’t want my son idolizing JayZ and his rise to the top none of the rappers or entertainers need to be glorified IMO!
Wait a minute How the hell do we come on SR blog state our opinions in a forum she provides but we gonna tell her to keep her opinion to herself

What in the Hell
The Black community do not need another snitching drug connected (or addcited) saggin rapper with no education as a role model.
Does, not do. Sorry.
UGH
…so ain’t finding pics close enough to be me.
oops forgot hubby will get in that azz 
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Uh IDK I was thinking using a real pic of you
Beyonce opening doors for Jay Z?
Not in a million years, if anything its the other way around when it comes to her careers longevity. She is VERY talented and I am a FAN but from what I know and heard he guided her in a lot of her endeavors.
@ T.Y’z Cha Cha- Dont start with that” ATTORNEY” she will talk you till you wanna catch a case from stuffing a sock down her throat.

CHA-CHA I LOVE YOU I SWEAR..
BUT DONT WALK INTO THE LIGHT DEAR
Choco says:
Wait a minute How the hell do we come on SR blog state our opinions in a forum she provides but we gonna tell her to keep her opinion to herself
CHOCO………. SPIT THAT SHYT
@Choco…
@ROACH RATS–perfect name. Roaches carry many diseases and germs that they spread through the community.
They are mental and visual eyesores…and they don’t die they MULTIPLY.
ROACH RATS are the reason that only 48,000 black men graduate from college while 800,000 black men go to jail.
Where is the :slap: emoticon?
UGH
I knew you couldn’t resist
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You know damn well as soon as I saw what I saw I was
chase says:
Beyonce opening doors for Jay Z?
Not in a million years, if anything its the other way around when it comes to her careers longevity. She is VERY talented and I am a FAN but from what I know and heard he guided her in a lot of her endeavors.
They are mental and visual eyesores…and they don’t die they MULTIPLY.
ROACH RATS are the reason that only 48,000 black men graduate from college while 800,000 black men go to jail.
Damn!
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Ummmmmmmm no….
Exaggeration at it’s finest. That’s what I got from this post. *side-note: I sure wish I had one of them drinks on that table right about now
The saying goes “Behind every fortune there is a crime” and if you traced most peoples path to wealth you would find that it definitely rings true(especially the yt folks).
I would much rather have my children follow in the footsteps of King Camel than Sandra’s own Lord Farquaad
Choco says:
@Mama
What is the accomplishment Jay used drug money to become successful in corporate america – No I don’t want my son idolizing JayZ and his rise to the top none of the rappers or entertainers need to be glorified IMO!
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Yeah he sold drugs 20 YEARS AGO. Hell I know some people who sold drugs in college to pay tuition but when they finished they stopped and went on to be VERY SUCCESSFUL. Just because he messed up in the past shouldn’t overshadow his current accomplishments. Is he currently selling drugs? If the only thing you see when you look at Jay-Z is a drug dealer then maybe you should doo a little more research. He’s made wise investments in his career. Look at where he’s from. Have you ever been to Marcy projects? Where he’s come from and where he is now is a HUGE accomplishment but if you don’t think so then that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to that.
My son will follow in the steps that GOD has already planned for him my son will Idolize and FEAR GOD my SON will be the one to IDOLIZE himself one day…
63 Choco says:
…so ain’t finding pics close enough to be me.
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Uh IDK I was thinking using a real pic of you oops forgot hubby will get in that azz
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ROFLMBAO!!!! Yes, he will. *I meant to say it AIN’T EASY finding pics….but I see you got what I saying. That’s what get for not using correct english.
T.Y’z Cha Cha says:
attorneymom says:
Out of all the Black doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, and entrepreneurs this man could have selected, he selects a rapper. Blank stare.
YOU FORGOT ATTORNEYS BLANK STARE
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Well she did say lawyers, but she forgot the police with their crooked azzes, and the Firemen, cause I love me some firemen. They’re such heroes…
@Mama
I won’t be researching JayZ cuz he does warrant that type of attention from me and yeah I’ve seen the Marcy Projects but the dream they are selling is unrealistic for the young kids that could learn something from JayZ today… So basically they are encouraging illegal activity so that one day if you are lucky enough to make it alive out of that game you can become successful like JayZ- NO there is college, trade schools, employment and hard work that I want my child to utilize in order to become a Well Rounded Adult –
cause I love me some firemen. They’re such heroes…
They are like ANGELS
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LMAO at people saying B upgraded Jay! That’s some Richard Pryor level comedy. Jay was a successful record label owner when he met B. Jay was respected as the brains of the operation to the big wigs and being lured away from Dame Dash by them before he met B. He was already respected by corporate america before her and he NEVER flaunted their relationship. B was likely attracted to him largely because he was The Man. Give credit where credit is due.
@CHB
Proper English in this piece Girl boo BYE
He doesn’t warrant that type
PAGING KAT STACKS
KAT STACKS…HOLLA IF YOU HEAR ME 
@Cha-Cha you know where you headed babe…..get to moving
arms crossed …. stomping and pouting on my way HMPH!! OHoney will you be visiting me any time today?
I might b in the Janet Jackson post. I try to be on my best behavior in here.
90% OF FIREMEN ARE SEXY.
Bird says:
LMAO at people saying B upgraded Jay! That’s some Richard Pryor level comedy. Jay was a successful record label owner when he met B. Jay was respected as the brains of the operation to the big wigs and being lured away from Dame Dash by them before he met B. He was already respected by corporate america before her and he NEVER flaunted their relationship. B was likely attracted to him largely because he was The Man. Give credit where credit is due.

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Loves me to Jay and has never understood the whole he is who he is because of Bey talk. If anything, I feel like they may have upgraded each other. Jay had big bank long before Bey and the truth of the matter is, imo, she didn’t get as popular as she became until they started hanging out/doing collabos and shyt. IN my next of the woods, her start really took off when he started referring to her as the hottest chick in the game before that, she was just the girl from DC that did their first solo album. Now, that being said, he’s hooking up with a debutante kinda took some of the edge off of his “hood” appearance which i’m sure did help him out in some ways but, he was somebody in the entertainment before she was.
*My post is not directed at anyone here. Just MY opinion*
Oh lord, I NEVER thought I’d be defending Jay like this but WHAT IN THE SAM HELL, Bey did NOT, I repeat did NOT open any doors for Jay. He was making moves since before she even had a deal. Hell in my opinion she married up! What does she do besides shake her azz and look cute and when that is gone…Then what? What businesses or investments does she have? Please don’t say House of Dereon either.
And to say that he used drug money, uhhhh NEWS FREAKIN FLASH…this country was founded on illegal activity from day 1. Stop acting like you don’t know that, matter of fact one the nations most beloved presidents (JFK) and family were KNOWN bootleggers.
Lastly, to those who keep asking why Buffet didn’t choose a black lawyer, doctor, etc, it’s because unfortunately, like it or not, rappers have the BIGGEST platform in the world, generally they choose to use it for foolishness instead of good. Todays youth, even those in white affluent homes, in other countries (that don’t even speak english)know who all the rappers are. Rap music is crossing ALL lines, even corporate America
@Choco so you think he’s saying “sell drugs and you can be like Jay-Z”? You obviously didn’t read the interview but ok.
@Sandra, im sure its been addressed, but why is it okay for T.I. to wear his pants hanging off his a$$ if its not okay for anyone else????
Ohhhh wait, I already know, T.I && Tiny are “thee exception” right???
GTOHWTBS!!!
Anyway #TeamJayonce
The Kennedys gained their wealth via prohibition…..Malcom X was a former pimp……and?????
JayZ may have started his come up on the darkside….but he didn’t stay there…..unlike these other rappers who still boast of living in trap houses with strawberry and her kids…when really they live next door to Buffie and Arnold and their children, samantha and bobby….
Howdy SR folks, I still see yall cutting up sideways
NTways I know people may jump on me but I don’t think JayZ is a savy business man, but I will say he is smart and he is LUCKY as all get out. JayZ knows the right people to pick and I think the people that are around him are very responsible for a good portion of his successs. At the end of the day he has accomplished a lot and you can’t take that from him.
@Daisy I read your comment about the rappers, and I agree with you. I do believe in artist having their freedom to perform the music they want, but at the end of the day they should know that their are young people that are going to want to emulate them. I have worked with all types of children- children who came from homes where the parents had structures from kids to who could do what they want, at the end of the day these kids still wanted to be like their favorite rapper’s rapper. I am not saying all artist have to become a Lupe or Common, but people need to be cognizant that they do have an effect on young folks.
I had a few typos in my post but, i’m sure yall got it, right? LOL
@GG
The Kennedy’s are a bunch of cursed folks I wouldn’t want their success for anything in the world and the Patriach Kennedy sold his soul to the DEVIL- hence all the deaths and crime surrounding that family
HEY EVERYBODY! :WAVE:
Bird says:
He’s the devil but Jeezy and T.I. are great people huh? And don’t be misleading, most artists don’t own their masters because it costs a grip to get them. You make it sound common. Easy E’s kids are likely still eating off of Dr. Dre’s The Chronic. I agree that showing your drawers to the world looks silly, but I’m not gonna sit around and pretend Jay is some dumb dumb because of that. He has been a business man for waaaay more years than he was a drug dealer and he got out of the drug game 20 years ago. Give it a rest mama.

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@Mama
No you are correct I didn’t read the interview becuz JayZ does not interest me whatsoever – but I’m sure you see my point – Warren and Jay need to STFU and stop telling folks what they can learn and start telling folks what they can for them- I mean isn’t being a Philantropist a even great accomplishment – when he gets that title then perhaps I will change my view of him…
WHATS REALLY GOIN ON WITH THE SAGGIN PANTS THING.. WHAT POINT ARE THESE MEN TRYING TO MAKE??? I THINK ITS A SUBTLE WAY TO SAY THAT THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO MEN… DISCREETLY.. BECAUSE, IM NOT EVEN A GUY AND I’VE HEARD ALL THE TALK ABOUT SAGGIN AND HOW IT STARTED AND THE MESSAGE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO CONVEY.. SO, IF THESE MEN ARE STRAIGHT, WHY WOULD THEY WILLINGLY PARTICIPATE IN A RITUAL THAT WAS FOUNDED ON HOMOSEXUAL PRINCIPLE?/
All I have to say is this….Jay Z may have sold drugs but he doesn’t hide it…the general public has NO IDEA what Warren Buffet or any of those mega-billionaires did, who they swindled, bribed etc…to get their riches.
Sidenote: Watch Michael Moore’s doc, Capitalism: A Love Story
Wow the elitist attitudes are on full blast this morning. Guess what guys? Not everyone is going to college. That’s just a fact. There is absolutely nothing wrong with pulling yourself out of the hood by other means besides going to college. It actually can be done. And there is nothing wrong with being applauded for your business accomplishments even though you are not a college graduate. There is nothing wrong with anyone looking up to Jay. Jay is a very good example of the benefits of being a business owner from jump. And Forbes is recognizing him because he continues to make money and make big moves. He’s a boss. A very high level boss. The fact that he was a drug dealer in his youth makes his accomplishments that much more impressive.
Wow the elitist attitudes are on full blast this morning.
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Okay since I’m the one who mentioned college I will take it that this elitist statement was indirectly meant for me. So allow me to let you know I am not under the impression that everyone goes to college or even wants to for that fact. IDC about Jay or his accomplishments elitist or NOT SO BE IT- I don’t want my children looking up to any rapper or entertainer POINT BLANK and if I have an elitist attitude becuz of that then I hope more ppl and parents start to have the same elitist attitude!
@ Bird, I’m with you. Jay is doing it so big and people can sit up and talk about what he did or didn’t do but it is not changing the facts
DIMPZ, CHA-CHA, BROWN YOU GOT MAIL
Choco
I guess you are an elitist since you responded. My response was not specifically directed to you. I was actually responding to someone else’s post and decided to remove that part of my response because I didn’t want to offend that person who I respect even if they are an elitist. If you are doing the dang thing then I respect you as well. If you took offense to my calling you an elitist that’s too bad (cause if you are one then I really was talking to you and everyone else on here who is an elitist). I never want to make folks feel some type of way. You have the right to be you. And I have the right to call you an elitist and consider that to be a bad thing. I still love ya.
And I still get inspiration from Jay. People like him remind me that I too can be a boss.
Don’t get me started on the saggy pants thing!!!! it is the most asinine fashion on God’s green earth. I wish somebody could explain this stupid ass all hell concept to me.
WHY????? purposely buy pants 2 to 3 sizes to small…to then turn around and buckle you belt under your ASS-CHEEKS??????? WHAT THE HIDEOUS FLUCK is that SHYT????????????????? and then…why dingy drawls…..why do I have to see your dingy in bright light drawls……
The look is slavish…..I would never know that the young man is intellengent, that he is college bound, that he has a family that cares about him………….because I can’t look up from your dingy drawls into your eyes….all the while the POLICE love to see you comming cause it saves money on RESTRAINT BANDS!!!!!! That’s right young brah…PoPo, VICE all sit back in thier cars and laugh at you holding your pants up while trying to swagg cool without falling!!!!!!!
I believe the men that wear this look are a part of a secret society of HOODLUM-GAYS….GAY In The HOOD…. The crips got their blue rags, he bloods got their red…and the GAYS, got sagging pants!!!!!!
STUPID!!!!!!!!!!
I HEAR YA ggouch – ALTHOUGH EVERYTHING YOU SAY SOUNDS SOOO FUNNY TO ME
YOURE ARE MY FAVORITE SR FUNNY LADY
Hey Choco, Ohoney, Cha Cha, Thick, Dimpz, GG!! :hug:, SB (suthernB), FLOOOooooo
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Darkalicious calm down boo!
Hey KrysiBoo!
@Bird– no disrespect but….
@Choco—- We are >>>>>>>>here<<<<<<<<
100% with you on this post. I don't mind being an elitist on this matter. Yes, people can be successful without going to college…they just have some other very strong attributes to make it big in America. Sorry, I can't recommend drug dealing to kick-start a successful career.
Val says:
I HEAR YA ggouch – ALTHOUGH EVERYTHING YOU SAY SOUNDS SOOO FUNNY TO ME
YOURE ARE MY FAVORITE SR FUNNY LADY
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Thank you VAL…I’m glad somebody loves me…(side-eyeing OTHERS in here)….not you Luscious….
True there are many corrupt RICH MAINSTREAM busisness people. America even looks up to some of them as role models like the character “Gordon Gekko” in Wallstreet.
Here’s the difference: When and IF mainstream gets caught in these white-collar crimes they get a slap on the wrist. Then they go back home to their families. Little Johnny can still say “I want to grow up and be a successful businessman like my daddy”.
However, if Lil John-John lived in the HOOD and committed this same crime or even WORSE sell drugs with the belief that he can one day be accepted into the business world like Jay Z…he will be sadly disappointed, dead before age 20, or life in jail.
It’s a 1 in a million chance that “Lil John-John” will be lucky enough to survive the drug game, or become a successful rapper, or even become a professional athlete…which is all America wants us to tell our children they can be.
Therefore, I will tell children admire people that are trying to their hardest to do the right thing in life. Not someone that got LUCKY doing the wrong thing.
What happened to let God be your role model…for HE represents, perfection, protection, pure love & prosperity.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM My CBH is in the HOUSE!!!!!!!!!! you stop posting body parts online yet to save your marriage? You heard what daddy said!!!!!!!!! That is HIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and he a kill a ninja that thinks otherwise!!!!!!!!!
BROOOOOOOOOOoooooWWWWnnnNNn!!!
@ggouch….Heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy :hugs:
Wait until I find a great cleavage pic…he is really going to lose it then.
CBH!!!! please don’t!!!
you are going to be IKED-Da-HELL- UP!!! and then what…how are we supposed to get to you in time!!!
Blowing kisses to Krysi J!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YALL ARE CRAZY, THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS AND GETTING ME THROUGH THIS LONG MORNING
..NOW HOW AM I GOING TO MAKE IT TO 5PM?!
#THATISALL
@gg…I’ll type 911 as my comment. Then Sandra can call the law…she will be able to locate me.
@twchoc1—Are you new here? (Like a job interview): Tell us a little something about yourself. :lolol:
Therefore, I will tell children admire people that are trying to their hardest to do the right thing in life. Not someone that got LUCKY doing the wrong thing.
What happened to let God be your role model…for HE represents, perfection, protection, pure love & prosperity.
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Uh Thank you sounds simple enough right? I can’t believe Im elitist becuz this makes sense to me…
Krysi girl I spoke in another post we hopping hard today
CorporateHoodB-tch says:
@Bird– no disrespect but….
Sorry, I can’t recommend drug dealing to kick-start a successful career.
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Oh my glory!! Is that what folks took from my comment? I don’t endorse drug dealing. I’m just impressed by Jay’s accomplishments. Please don’t make me get on my soap box about the perils of being a drug dealer and acquiring a criminal record at a young age. No no no. That is not what I’m talking about. Jay didn’t make it from being a drug dealer. As far as I know his drug dealing had little or nothing to do with his success. Unless Dame is lying he is the one that financed Jay. They started Rocafella together with Jay as the talent and Dame as the money man. I give Dame all the credit in the world for saving his life. I’m only saying that he should not be defined by his youthful indiscretions. My dad is an elitist who looks down on me because I was raised in the hood and was a bad kid by all accounts. But sh*t I’m 42 years old and have been a working productive member of society since I was 18. And I turned out alright with only “some college” on my resume.
So no I don’t look up to Jay the teenaged drug dealer. I look up to Jay the successful businessman. I strive to be like him. But judging from you folks that still wouldn’t make my father view me any differantly than a stripper on the pole. I’ma have to respectfully disagree with you folks on this one and leave it at that.
LOL..No I am not new to SR, I have been a reader for years.. I rarely post though.. You guys are too funny today..I just had to say that!
@Bird
I didn’t take offense I just addressed the situation and your right you can think elistist is being a bad thing like I think praising a former drug dealer and saying kids could learn from him IS EFFN IGNORANT and BEYOND STUPID
@CorporateHoodB-tch
@Bird
I still got love for u also :hugs:
@Bird
I see what you are saying becuz you have lived with this type of ridicule but like you said you are grown and successful for me to use JAYZ as a blueprint for my children that just ain’t happening CAPTAIN… I don’t consider myself an elitist I consider myself a very involved Parent
Please tell me nobody took Warren’s words in the literal sense of saying “go sell drugs to make it”!!!!
I don’t believe Birds message is Parents send your children forth with a bag of dope and watch it do what it do….
It is a messege to anybody who finds themselves already out there slinging dope to survive…that you still have time to make better decissions….you don’t make money in that manner to stay in the same murkey water….you have to at some point and time need to swim to clearity!!!!!!!!
Someone said on a Forbes Post: Jayz is a great example of NOT HOW you MAKE your money…BUT what you Do with your money……
I for one love him for it!! Thank you JAYZ, for not blinging your way to broke-assid-ness
I’m not a fan of Jay Z at all. I get he’s come far but I don’t see him telling youth there is a better way enough. Yeah we all know how far he has come and how much he has, but is he out there encouraging kids not to follow in his footsteps? Is he telling people that how much money you have does not define your value or self worth? I hear him bragging about what he has, what he spends, what he can buy instead. And I’ve seen with my own two eyes too many people, young and old, fall trying to emulate the path Jay Z and others have taken or who would sell out mother, woman and even child to get even a quarter of his wealth. Our society, especially the black community, puts everything on how much money and possesions you can aquire and not enough emphasis on becoming smarter, having talent, helping others and giving back. Jay Z and other rappers have A LOT to do with that.. chicks will sell their food stamps and let them and ther kids go hungry just to have a bad outfit for the club or get their hair done. Dudes will sell drugs just to get a better car or some shoes when they live with their moms in the projects and its because that’s what they see on tv, hear in music and see from the people around them… I digress but I wish for once rappers and entertainers would stop being placed on pedestals and real everyday people who are a success could get shine. Just cause most wealthy families can be tied into some sort of criminal activity doesn’t make it right or give people a pass to do whatever it takes legal or not to get rich. Hell for every family that’s become a success of crime there’s hundreds who didnt
renegadesince1985 says:

I wish people would stop blaming hip-hop for the problems with the youth. If hip-hop is able to influence or brainwash kids then their PARENTS need to do better.
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Choco (lol just messing with you)
I kid
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Jerk
Well said on your entire post!
Some people will always be in the dark!
renegadesince1985 says:
I wish people would stop blaming hip-hop for the problems with the youth. If hip-hop is able to influence or brainwash kids then their PARENTS need to do better.
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DAMN!!! right!! Charles Barkley been telling folks tht for years!!! I AM NOT HERE to BE YOUR ROLE MODEL! Your 9.99 or 18.99 you pay for these people’s CDs don’t pay for your children’s directional influence!!!!!!!
DAMN!!! right!! Charles Barkley been telling folks tht for years!!! I AM NOT HERE to BE YOUR ROLE MODEL! Your 9.99 or 18.99 you pay for these people’s CDs don’t pay for your children’s directional influence!!!!!!!
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CB!! Everybody shouldn’t be parents!!!
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I don’t think the women in here that are not impressed by JAYZ is implying that we blame hip hop I think we are the ones that are really monitoring what goes on in our children lives and even have discussions about it letting your child know what is and is not acceptable-I don’t blame hip hop for nathan cuz I’m not into hip hop like that Im old skool I was raised with a different set of values -different times I guess- just wanted to be clear
Young people have already learned from Jay Z….
Lol @Choco thanks and I agree. I do all that I can so my kids do not grow up idolizing and emulating these entertainers. I choose what they can hear and see and while everything isn’t g rated or holy I discuss when there is something bad in it so they know its unacceptable behavior. And I keep them active, they do community work, go to museums, libraries, watch movies and read books on REAL heroes so that they can see there is more to life than rapping, singing or playing ball and that you have to help others regardless of your own financial status. My kids saw me working everyday through pain and exhaustion, they see me doing things I can’t physically do so they can be kids and have fun, I tell them my mistakes so they know I’m not perfect but they can also see how far I’ve come and how you can overcome anything. And I hate that despite all of my efforts there are people in the world promoting and preaching the exact opposite and have the power to plant the seed in their brains that what we have isn’t enough and that they must do anything to be “rich and powerful”, I hate that society, corporate america and white folks keep presenting these glorified ex thugs as pillars of society when they are not. Give credit to the parents, teachers, lawyers, social workers, doctors and others who are actually making a difference. Let them meet with buffet and talk investments and success.. that’s not taking credit from JayZ for his accomplishments but it would be giving credit where its justly due and would actually help somebody
for one thing you cant control who your kids idolize, they are individuals that make there own decisions no matter what you put before them unless you keep them sheltered there entire lives. with that said jay is a success story. if you are an involved parent you can show them hey drug dealing is bad and to not follow in those footsteps but you can elevate the point of him having the ambition to let the odds that was stacked up against him not stop him of becoming the success he is today. sure we would want them to be doctors and lawyers but how many of us was sold that dream coming up? sure there are successful doctors and lawyers but everyone cant have the same jobs to be considered successful. so its a point of educating your kids to be the best at whatever they can be, because truthfully everyone is not smart enough to be a doctor or lawyer or have the discipline to go through all that schooling. so the lesson learned from jay is to have that drive to let nothing stop you in becoming what you want to be despite the obvious of him being a drug dealer in his past it was his drive and ambition that elevated him beyond that. part of educating your children is not showing the world in a rosey light that everything is good you have to educate you children with good and bad so they have the wisdom to know the difference.
@ Choco: I am a Jay-Z fan and while I might not agree with his fashion style or past choices, he is a force to be reckoned with in the business world..BUT…that’s not whay I called you:
You mentioned that you “don’t care enough..” which could explain why you chose to based your part of your opinion on half-truths and incomplete facts. You read what Sandra fed you, assumed it was the whole truth and climbed up on your high horse.. Perhaps, if you had taken time to research, instead of posting:
Comm 100 – “I mean isn’t being a Philantropist a even great accomplishment – when he gets that title then perhaps I will change my view of him…”
You would have seen that Jay-Z has donated millions, to Hurricane Katrina, Haiti, Africa, Marcy, etc. and was honored by the UN for his philanthropic efforts. Let me know how that view change goes…
@East and Heaven
For real give it up I don’t care about Jay I didn’t read Sandra’s article wtf is the problem I don’t like Jay and you do well GET OVER IT you don’t know my children nor my lifestyle so keep it movin feel me – I don’t care what you too say like it’s pointless to me GET IT you are not involved in my children’s life nor mine so kindly back off all this going back and forth over JAY damn sure won’t make me see it your way-Choose your battles wisely both of you – You won’t change my mind DEAL WITH THAT VERY TRUE REALITY! SMFH on the JAYZ obsession GTFOMF
@Heaven
You are going to have to cope with the fact that I don’t like Jay and my reasons may not make sense to you okay – Ask GOD for help in understanding the things you can’t control..
Buh Buh!
LOL..For somebody that doesn’t care, you’re getting awfully heated. I don’t care if you like Jay-Z or not. I’m simply stating the facts, NOT AN UNEDUCATED OPINION. You made a statement, I gave you the info that you OBVIOUSLY didn’t have when you made your statements. I don’t get paid to bring people to the ROC, so do you Boo. Rather than admit that you were wrong (which SR would agree is a narcissitic trait) you go off on a rambling, run-on of a tangent.
And, FTR, I have no desire to know your children or your lifestyle. WSS (Why so serious??) It’s a blog. I do wish them the best though..looks like they’re going to need it.
For REAL Simple FOLKS who don’t Get it @ East and Heaven
I DON’T NEED MY CHILDREN TO SEE JAY AS A ROLE MODEL GET THAT IT AND GET IT GOOD! Tell that mofo to be a role model to his own damn kids wtf are yall coming at me go FUK J and get the hell away from ME- MORONS!
@Heavn
No boo y are you so serious I men for real GTFOIT you writing a effn novel about JAYZ as fukn IF I dont CARE live with that!
@Heavn
Bish Im serious you stalked me in another post GTF!
You got the wrong poster..I have never stalked you..or anybody else, FTM Sorry..you’re wrong about that too. You do realize that cursing only makes you look even more ingnorant. You’ve gotta know that, right? Also, I didn’t write a novel (I can tell you’ve never read one) about Jay-Z, most of what I said was to you.
I’m done. “A wise man said never aruge with fools….”
@choco dont @ my name more than once when i havent responded to you or have spoken to you directly. I was simply stated a lesson can be learned from any situation i didnt say who anyones ROLE MODEL should be. I know Jesus should be yours though from the way you talking. and if you truly dont care at all it would have been very easy to skip over this post as there are many more in subjects that you may care about.
@East
I will do what I want just like you do @EAST!
You got the wrong poster..I have never stalked you..or anybody else, FTM Sorry..you’re wrong about that too. You do realize that cursing only makes you look even more ingnorant. You’ve gotta know that, right? Also, I didn’t write a novel (I can tell you’ve never read one) about Jay-Z, most of what I said was to you.
now please go crawl under a ROCK 
I’m done. “A wise man said never aruge with fools….”
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I do wish them the best though..looks like they’re going to need it.
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Comin from a skank who is probably barren!
if you truly dont care at all it would have been very easy to skip over this post as there are many more in subjects that you may care about.
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Still don’t care about Jay all this and my mind is still the same! Maybe I care more about ppl challenging how I feel when they have no reason to – get your facts straight you and Heaven!
@ east: And that’s somebody’s mama..SMH..Jesus take the wheel!
@ EAST
and yes i know the
but right now I don’t give a fck!!!!!!!!!lol
@ East
You’re usually so calm and mild mannered!
@brown
i am she kept talking to me though when i didnt say nothing to her directly and being called simple minded didnt help
@East
If your comment was not indirectly meant for me then I apologize-
Everyone stated their opinion some folks just want to be right WHAT IS THE BIG TO DO I dont care about JAY and I don’t see him as role model material but I have to be lectured??? Plenty others aint necessarily riding for JAY either so if you bring it I got it for you and I’m not even tryin to sound hard -I debate for fun!
@Heavn
You are so pathetic honey unfortunately you are someone’s child who should’ve done you a favor and swallowed
So ignoring you wasn’t good enough..OK, I’ll humor you…for a minute..Because some of us have REAL jobs..
LOOK BOO..I was not trying to make you like Jay-Z or saying you were wrong for disliking him..I was simply telling you what you said you didn’t know about..that’s it. It’s called ED-U-CA-TING..plain and simple. I never brought up your kids..called you out of your name, etc. You’re not important enough for me to get mad about you calling me this or that. Apparently you’re comprehension is about as good as your spelling and grammar, because that is a MATERNITY pic..Oh, my bad..It means I was pregnant. So while some people OBVIOUSLY shouldn’t reproduce….well you get the picture..atleast I hope you do. Now, I said I was done before..Go run and play..maybe there’s a check in the mail from one of your baby daddy’s or something.. I’m bored with this episode of “WHEN HOODRATS BLOG”. You started it..I finished it..Talk to my back. And I quote, “Buh..Buh”
My oh my, how we talk about rappers yet so many women sit on here and talk about how they take it up the azz, suck dyck, and I can’t even keep count of the men it’s damn near a different one everytime… Kanye Shrugs on that… So if rappers don’t make y’all be hoodrats then who is it??? Wondering… thank you much.. And if you respond to me then ya must be guilty cuz I didn’t call any names out… #justsaying..
@Heaven
Ignoring really now you are extremely delusional and just to keep it consistent I didnt read your rant either just like I didn’t read Sandra on JAYZ-
Practice Safe SEX wouldn’t want you polluting the earth with your kind! CHECK AND MATE!
I wish someone would explain to these children what the sagging pants really mean
One quick question:
How can one offer an informed opinion on something without any information?
Oh, and the wise man speaks when they have something to say, the fool speaks when they have to say something.
@ EAST that was sexy right there #noshade
How do you think the rest of the rich folks got Rich, it sure was not working 9-5 and saving, we all use drug money everyday, just hop into your bank and make a withdrawl ( drugmoney) I had an agent ask a question and say we took his drug money, so i say what are you gonna do with that money, ??? they purchase cars, get a percentage for stealing it from the drug dealer, they use it to fund christams parties, give bonus…so me be who i am says: how the hell you steal they money and say it’s bad for them and u turn around and buy the very same thing they was gonna buy with the same damn money. I said yelling ( YOU AINT NOTHING BUT A HYPOCRITE YOU AND Y’ALL DUMB AZZ SYSTEM)…
My oh my, how we talk about rappers yet so many women sit on here and talk about how they take it up the azz, suck dyck…
attorneymom says:
Out of all the Black doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, and entrepreneurs this man could have selected, he selects a rapper. Blank stare.
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How did I miss this comment? Excellent point!!
Choco says:
Wait a minute How the hell do we come on SR blog state our opinions in a forum she provides but we gonna tell her to keep her opinion to herself
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Shout out to Mamacita, you kept me from having to post. I love Jay ! I love a person with a struggle that makes it. Yeah he, sold drugs years ago, BUT he DID NOT serve time in Fed prison, get out, get married, and get him & his wife arrested for possesing illegal substances. I would say that person is the CONARTIST, after that whole MTV Road to Redemption crap he certainly conned the hell outta me.
Did I mention that I absolutely love SCC.