U.S. President Barack Obama, who calls himself a Christian when it benefits him to do so, has come under attack from the most unlikeliest of foes: the black church.
The Rev. Anthony Evans, who heads the National Black Church Initiative — a coalition of 34,000 black churches — is blasting President Barack Obama’s decision to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).
The Rev. notes that Obama “has violated the Christian faith” by failing to uphold Jesus’ teaching that marriage is between a man and a woman.
DOMA was signed into law in September, 1996 by then President Bill Clinton. The law is intended to uphold and preserve the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman.
Gays, (and other special interest groups) who make up a substantial portion of the left-wing voting bloc, say the law is unconstitutional. Not surprisingly Obama, who was opposed to gay marriage until it came time for him to seek reelection, agrees with them.
Obama’s new stance has angered the Rev. Evans who says black churches must “reassess their extraordinary support for him.”
34,000 black churches probably won’t put a dent in Obama’s chances to win reelection. Not unless Rev. Evans and his coalition of churches are able to rally the millions of black, non-churchgoing Kool Aid drinkers to join their protest.
I’m not surprised that black people have soured on Obama after years of drinking the Kool aid. Would it be appropriate for me to pause here and say that I told you so?
Welp this is one black christian who isn’t mad. If gays want to get married I could care less. Some black folks need to stop worrying so much about what’s going on in somebodys bedroom and worry about crime/education/local/city/state/fed govt laws/rules/regulations you catch my drift.
#stillteamObama
TGIF
@Daisy
You forgot abortions.
I happened to like Kool Aide tyvm. Especially when it has some fruit in it. Mmmm, its the best.
#TeamGod I could care less about Obama
If Lucy and Anne love each other and are happy and they not killing people or raping babies more power to them. I used this as an example of the type of people we should be concerned about. Im concerned about the child molester that lives down the street from me and not about the 2 lesbians that live across the street that speak to me every morning and are happy as can be.
***Kool Aid***
Good for Obama. Fluck those close-minded church folks.
I don’t respect people who pick and choose which parts of “The Good Book” they want to follow.
Either you believe everything in the Bible or you believe nothing.
Yeah this marriage chit is stupid live and let live!
I have more pertinent concerns then Gay Marriage…
I’m concerned about the Catholic priests diddling the alter boys in the confessional booth.
Are these the same black churches whose Reverends, Deacons, Usherboard, and Motherboards who were at the “Free Sweetie” Rally?
Dawnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@Dawn
No these are the same black churches that uphold that Pastor Gigolo out of ATL
@His
Digging the black and white gravi
His, Hay love what’s shaking?
There are bigger problems in the world then gay marriage…Personally I don’t give a crap about traditional marriage…I’m more concerned with the state of the educational system and this damn economy.
@Dawn- nope. It was the “let a pimp lean in his Maybach” rally.
Who cares who’s up in arms about what? Everyone’s allowed to take a stance for what they believe in. So what? Nothing to see here folks…
I meant than
Choco aka Hippie says:
@Dawn
No these are the same black churches that uphold that Pastor Gigolo out of ATL
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Chit, hell which one… we got gay ones, closet gay ones, ex-rapping pastors, ex phropthesses who call themselves the 2nd, we got a pastor in a muscle shirt with a baby kitten on his head, we got pastor pass yo dollar, we got lots of gigolos… pastors…..
***humming The Time: Gigolos Get Lonely Too
What is the state of the neighborhoods surrounding these churches I wonder. How involved are these churches in the community?
Normally I’m a lurker (more like always a lurker), but decided to post.
I agree with YSo, some ppl that go to church want to defend bits and pieces of the Bible. They wanted to pray for Eddie Long because he got caught having intimate relationships with boys, but want to criticize the President for his beliefs. If that is not hypocritical I don’t know what it. I go to church, but sometimes you have to listen to the word and ignore the actions because some of these preachers are out of control!!
we got a pastor in a muscle shirt with a baby kitten on his head,

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You betta preach Daisy!!
I love that damn song.
Contrary to rumors
Gigolos get lonely too
All my lovers need stimulation
But honey babe
I think that I need youuu…
I am what would be considered “church folks” just like those who don’t attened church we all have the right to believe what we want even when it comes to the bible
I don’t have a heaven or hell to put anybody in. There are hyporcrites both inside and outside the church #thatisall
Team God/Jesus go w/o saying for me plus I represent in my gravi
When did it become a crime to stand up for something you belive in?
Why do people get attacked for holding on to their beliefs?
So gays have the “right” to be married but the church doesn’t have the “right” disagree?
Oh ok…
And I used to say the phrase “There are more important issues in the wolrd besides _____” until I realized that statement doesn’t always apply. Some issues are JUST as important as others.
Ummm what is a “Black Church”??? Are we now labeling churches by skin color?
And as much foul stuff that goes on in the churches, Obama’s decision should be the last thing the Rev should be angry about.
Again, his decision doesn’t mean that EVERY church or every pastor has to take part in a same sex wedding ceremony.
These are Revs (both white and black) ought to be more concerned with how the men of the cloth are preying on these young boys.
Mamacita says:
When did it become a crime to stand up for something you belive in? Why do people get attacked for holding on to their beliefs?
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When what you believe in is politically INCORRECT and goes against the grain of the massive amount of sheeple.
Just because the non-belief of gay marriage is an issue for many churches, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing things about other issues as well. Churches can and do have more than one cause.
Church has no place in who I decide to love and marry
@KrayZKat You’re absolutely right. People are so stuck on not offending others and trying to please that they lose their own integrity.
“If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything”
@Mamacita, I agree to the 100th power!
& 
Whatever.
Believe what you want, practice what you want. I know what I believe, but unfortunately this article is not about me
Obama shoulda made whatever decision he wanted to make, stick with it and stop tryna please this group or that group. At the end of the day, he nor I are God. We all gone have to answer to Him regardless…
#exactlywhyidonttalkaboutreligionorpoliticsatwork
Auntie,It’s Friday. Give this man a break. Gosh i bet he can’t do anything right in your eyes
BTW I am a
drinker
We need a juicier post than this one
President Obama said he was evolving as it releates to this topic
I agree people shouldnt be attacked for their beliefs but I dont think you should try and force your beliefs on others and try and stop an entire group of ppl from saying I do.
I dont discuss religion or politics at work either
I believe I said “close-minded church folks”. If you felt that hit and hollered at that, that’s between you and YOUR God.
As far as standing up for what you believe in, people believed in slavery too. And used the bible to support that belief. Sooo…
Oh yeah whatever is right
since it has to be like that sadly
@Yvonne Hey girl
I remember when Bishop Long basically told his church to vote for Bush cause he was against gay marriage as if that was the only issue at hand
A hit dog sure will holla my mama loves that saying. I said my .02 and you said yours wasnt that deep. I am good with God
thanks President Obama
you are doing the absolute best you can
fvck a black church
black churches are messed up, few and far between to find a good one but there are hundreds of thousands out there smh
30 Choco aka Hippie says:
Church has no place in who I decide to love and marry
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Ditto
Ohhhhh Godddd here we go again! This is very same BULLSHYT that allowed Bush raggedy azz to be re-elected. Sandy, you just ruined my day with this post… ugghh!~
Are there or are there not certain biblical principals Christians should live by? If not, what makes them a Christian and another not a Christian?
Sorry, I am a conservative Christian and nope, I do not believe in gay marriage.
That being said, I do feel that today’s rhetoric against homosexuals is vile and that they should have hate crime protection as well (the bill here in VA was just shot down)
But do I think Obama is flip flopping on the issue? yes sir
Then again didn’t Bush come out in favor of it as well after he left office?
I know Cindy McCain, one of the Bush twins, and even Anne Coulter have relaxed their stance on gay marriage
I just don’t feel like religion has ANYTHING to do with HUMAN RIGHTS… love is love… so let’s all party together!:party:
Just needed a reason to use the Emoticons joint… lol
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCO *cries and wipes snot CHOOOOOOOOOOOCO where have you been
YOU QUIT team DIRTY ROSE 
KrayZKat says:
Are there or are there not certain biblical principals Christians should live by? If not, what makes them a Christian and another not a Christian?
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Yes there are. First, you are to believe in the atoning death of Jesus the Christ for the forgiveness of sins. Some principals that come off the top of my head are to love each other, forgive, worship the Father, spread the good news of Jesus, care for the poor, have faith in Jesus, pray, be pure and modest.
What makes a person a Christian is first their belief in the resurrection of Jesus and that His death and resurrection was a sacrifical death for the sins of man. Second is to live by the commandents, to be as Paul states, doers and not only hearers of the Word.
That help?
Heyy ya’ll
Where is everybody at???
FAAAAAAAAAALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW HEY PRETTY BISH…WE STILL HUNG UP IN THE DR DRE POST… I THINK
@Luv, YES! That does help, and that’s my belief as well. Thank you.
I asked question because I know a lot of non-Christians that question why there are so many Christians that profess to be Christians, yet they are living just like them (non-Christians). I know we all sin, and that we are not to judge anyone’s faith because we don’t know their heart, but this is the very reason why many think some Christians are hypocrites.
@CHA
boo just took a lil time off is all :hugs:
FLORIDA :hugs: HEY BOOOOO!
I’m not sure I’m understanding…
@ Sandra Mae – As someone who was never really a Barack Obama “fan” (because I’m more of a lover of my current quality of life and a future for my baby than I am about making history) – but that’s neither here nor there…
How is it you seem to find wrong in EVERYTHING this man does, even when what he’s doing affects you? You randomly come across as a champion for homosexuality and equality based upon many of your rants, so, when the man says, “I’m not challenging anyone’s right to marry whomever they see fit – marry who the f*ck you want to marry, I wanted a woman and I got me one, if you want a dude, big ups, but I’ve got more important $hit to do!”… somehow, you’ve managed to do the unthinkable and find a way to turn THAT into a negative too.
Admit it, no matter what he did/does… you’re going to find a way to make him your favorite “narcissist”, right? LMAO
Heyyyyy Cha Cha && Choco
*heads to see whats goin on in Dre post*
@LUV
That’s why I could never even pretend to be a Christian of any kind. I personally questioned everything you mentioned and the more I question without finding answers the less I can bring myself to believe in any of it.
I’m just not wired to go with something on faith alone. I need facts and logic. Things that organized religion simply cannot give me.
If your not Gay or a lesbo by 2015 you S@%$ outta luck, cause that’s who run this damn country sad but true….just watch… will you take the mark….Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
YSoSerious says:
I used to be the same way. Matter of fact I still struggle. But what chagned my was loosing my job. I cried out to the Lord because, sadly, He was my “last option”. Man oh man best decision I ever made!
Like I said, I do not agree with homosexuality, but it saddens me the comments that heterosexuals make against gays and it saddens me that gays are not protected under hate crimes. Maybe that will change soon.
There are hypocrites both inside and outside the church as I stated before sorry that’s a #petpeeve of mine.
I was born and raised in the church as well as have personal relationship w/my Lord and Saviour (there is a difference to me) I still don’t think being gay is a sin and I support gay marriage. Even if being gay is a sin God loves all of us he just hates the sin (my belief). I don’t feel I am any less christian than any other person who says they are christian. I believe Jesus died and rose for my sins.
God Bless and have a great weekend
Foxy brown has a new cd, it will be sold via UNCF box donations. I’m sure Sandra will post her numbers tomorrow in addition to the updated Kimberly JOnes paypal numbers…
WOW aint no such thing as christian, another man mad self religion, it aint even biblical written…..no where you will find christian in the bible as religion ….his name is YAH most folks don’t even know it is in there, and besides if the gay do marry, what is the point, half of the people aint saved, not gonna be saved, and aint trying to be saved so it’s pointless
@Y, I know you were addressing Luv, but I have a question. I don’t know if you believe in Creation or the Theory of Evolution, but according to the “Theory,” something that was chaotic all of a sudden became orderly after the Big Boom. If you believe in the TOE, is that, to you, factual or logical?
I’m just asking, not judging or being sarcastic.
funny
*sigh* The black church….
Where is Redeem/Restoration to throws stone at all of you…..
@ Daisy says: I still don’t think being gay is a sin and I support gay marriage. Even if being gay is a sin God loves all of us he just hates the sin
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unbelievable, leave church alone altogether PLEASE WOW, SMH…I would not tell nobody i read and believe in the Holy bible and make a comment like that…I would have just said “To each it’s own”…this is sad really, for all the bible believers that say you are so holy and a christian when in reality aint no such thing as christian….BYE
@Run
Christian means to be christ-like. Now I for one do not call my
self Christian because I could not hold a candle to Chrtist. But I do believe in him and try to follow his teachings. I am not religious either, but spiritual, because those that worship him must worshiip him in spirit and truth.
@Daisy Aren’t homosexuals trying to force their beliefs on us? Blank stare. I guess that is okay in your book. Girl, please. #penisgoesintovagina
Who give s a flick about religion?! I personally believe the majority of it is man-made as well, but I do believe in a God/Higher Power.
I think everybody should just mind their business, worship as the please and worry about saving their own raggedy-azzed souls. Whether you believe in Allah, Jesus, Yahweh, Lord, Jehovah, Buddha, the dope man or the damn Easter Bunny, who gives a hoot?!
Worship who you want and as you please. As long as you are not harming others or yourself in the process- I don’t have nary an opinion on who you choose to believe in.
Whatever keeps your azz sane….
We are not all going to agree religously. I could write a whole dissertation against Run’s view but I’m not.
Bottom line, Barack Obama started his term against gay marriage and now he is slowly turning agianst that stance. Is he sincere or just trying to ante up for reelection? Time will tell
@Daisy Aren’t homosexuals trying to force their beliefs on us? Blank stare. I guess that is okay in your book. Girl, please. #penisgoesintovagina
Most homosexuals beleive in and fear god, maybe if you have any questions about that perhaps you should ask one, but I ask why the hell to people care who in all likely hood someone you dont know marries, what does it have to do with you, if two men being married threaten your commitment than you have a problem.
The president said his beleif on this is evolving I applaud the grown up in the room. I have very little faith in the black church just look at the black communities they serve their outreach is largely within!
If being “gay” is against your religion, offends you, or you find it immoral, or you just don’t approve…then DON’T DO IT!! But those are not reasons not to allow other tax paying, law abiding citizens a right that is given to every other citizen of this country. And you don’t even have to be a decent citizen to marry. Any bum, murderer, rapist, felon, crack dealer, etc…can get married…but yet certain people are treating it like it’s some divine right??!! If a same sex couple marries, how does it really affect you other than the fact that you disapprove? If you belive marriage is some type of religious experience,(which I don’t see how anyone can these days) that’s your right too. But I see a marriage license simply as a legal document that entitles you to certain rights and priviledges. This issue is a simple one to me, but then I’m not blinded by religion, ignorance, and prejudice. If two people love one another, I’m happy to see them commit to one another, and I think everyone deserves that right. I could care less if they’re the same sex or not. And we as black people as always pay attention to the wrong things. Absentee fathers, the high incarceration rate for black males, lack of education, lack of jobs, etc are all more important issues to the black community, but yet all we wanna do is talk about who’s gay?? We deserve everything that’s coming to us. Sorry for ranting, but the ignorance and misplaced attention of black folks set me off.
I have very little faith in the black church just look at the black communities they serve their outreach is largely within!
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There are a lot of black churches all over the country that do wonderful things in their neighborhoods/communities, and most of their outreach is without.
I don’t have a problem with people thinking gay is wrong because everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But why do some people act like gay is the biggest sin you can commit. I know murderers that get more respect then Gay people. At the end of the day we are not the judge. I don’t beleive in a lot of stuff, but that doesn’t make me wrong for my belief. I use to be hard on gays. But my cousin was gay and he died of aids. He was the most loving and caring person you would ever want to meet. So just because you are gay doesn’t mean you aren’t human and don’t deserve respect and to be loved.
@Krazy
I think you are mixing your “Theories” a bit.
The basic premise of Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is that complex creatures (like humans) evolve from more simplistic ancestors naturally over time through natural selection, basically a series mutations that benefit a particular species.
I think you’re saying that the big toe is too complex to have simply evolved through trial and error. The eye is used as another example.
I’m far from an expert but I don’t see how these things could not have evolved to where they are without some sort of divine intervention.
Humans had to grow toes or we would have never been able to stand upright, which had it advantages over being quadrupedal like other, lesser animals. I don’t think we would have ever risen to the top of the food chain on all fours.
As for the chaotic suddenly becoming orderly, I think that has to do with the Big Bang Theory. This is based on the premise that the universe sort of popped from something called a singularity into existence out of nothingness.
As crazy and impossible as that sounds there is evidence to support it. And it technically wasn’t a bang, but more like an expansion. like blowing up a balloon.
Science doesn’t completely understand how or why and I sure as hell don’t.
I think that’s a big reason why people believe in God and the bible. It gives them answers to these big questions. I just choose to find my answers elsewhere.
I apologize if this was too long or doesn’t make sense. However I hope I at least answered your question to some degree.
When I go to my church, my pastor hits on everybody. Gay, straight, bi, liars, adulterers, thieves, etc.
On any given Sunday, he will hit me on my a$$, but that’s the POINT. There are SO many issues in the bible that can be considered the antithesis of Christianity and NOT falling into the homosexuality portion of the bible doesn’t automatically get your ass into heaven, so we need to stop thinking that we’ve got an automatic pass simply because we choose to lay up with the opposite sex.
Last I checked, homosexuality wasn’t at the top of the hierarchy as it relates to God’s commandmendts… correct me if I’m wrong, as I often have been, but when those commandmendts were relayed at that burning bush, Lying, cheating, stealing, coveting, and a few others were there, and homosexuality was nowhere in that ten – so if he COMMANDED your ass to not lie, what makes you better than the homosexual, when you do?
If I steal, what makes me better than a homosexual, if I look at my brother’s wife’s a$$ and my $hit gets hard – does that mean I still get to go to Heaven because I’m coveting a WOMAN?
If I steal a few note pads and pens from work, am I any better than the woman who sleeps with another woman?
People kill me picking and choosing which laws of the bible they want to be governed by: Some of ya’ll went out on Saturday night, LIED to your husband about it, cheated with somebody else and then came to church on Sunday like you’re steps the night before were ordered by God and ignore all the $hit pastor says about what YOU just did last night… “how bout them f*gs?”…
When you get through, as black people, we need to worry about fixing the $hit that matters in our communities. We spend so much time worrying about the wrong $hit that everybody else is passing us up.
I don’t care what happens on nobody’s mattress. That’s how I keep my house and nose clean. Do what you do… what you eat don’t make ME fat.
If homosexuals are going to hell, what can you do besides try to get YOUR a$$ into heaven? If you don’t like gays… don’t become one – and now that THAT problem is solved, you can work on checking off the rest of that $hit off your list that will get you into heaven.
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attorneymom says: @Daisy Aren’t homosexuals trying to force their beliefs on us? Blank stare. I guess that is okay in your book. Girl, please. #penisgoesintovagina
Every American whether gay or straight should have the same rights. Furthermore how is it ok for gays to pay all types of taxes but not have the same privileges as straights?
Some people are just too old to be so silly. SMH.
(falls in love with Carrington all over again)
Some people are just too old to be so silly. SMH.

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@Y, thank you for answering that for me. I appreciate it. When I mentioned “TOE” I was abbreviating “Theory of Evolution.” Sorry about that.
Yes, I’m talking specifically about the Big Bang Theory. Some scientists believe there is evidence of the BBT, but I think that tide is changing a bit. When I look around, I don’t see how orderly our solar system is and how we, as human, are so intricately made, to believe that it just happened.
One of the many reasons I believe in God/the Bible because I see the miracles of our universe that didn’t “just happen,” but that’s me. I respect others and their opinions.
@Krazy
Your welcome. Sorry I misunderstood a bit.
I respect others and their opinions too as long as they respect mine. My problem is I can be extremely sarcastic and that can come off as being disrespectful and intolerant.
I’m working on that. Probably will be for the rest of my life.
Again you can’t find christian in the bible, so why call your self when he specifically told u to say holy, His word is holy he is holy and you should be holy, not Christian…REALLY PEOPLE READ the BOOK IF YOU GONNA BELIEVE IN IT
@Carrington there is some thing he hate, and one is a proud look, women you need to check yourself on this , that make-up it disguss him…and a liar, u just utterly destesable
@Carrington there is some thing he hate, and one is a proud look, women you need to check yourself on this , that make-up it disguss him…and a liar, u just utterly destesable
I’m supa late but Hi SR Fam…..
When will we get to the point where we start focusing on our own “inequities” and stop wasting time worried about what the next person is doing in with their lives…. I have a phrase that I live by,”If you don’t feed me, f*ck me or finance anything I have… then CLEARLY I’m not worried about you”….Sandra boo….I have to say that you have something against Barack…I do not agree with everything he suggests/opposes but I do know that many homosexuals are really antagonized for their actions which in the end is wrong. How can the “black church” who is suppose to support their fellow man & exhibit love do such a thing when they are the biggest antagonizers…..
cough..cough…okay i’m still sick but i will be checking back in later!
*smoochez*
attorneymom says: @Daisy Aren’t homosexuals trying to force their beliefs on us? Blank stare. I guess that is okay in your book. Girl, please. #penisgoesintovagina
And what exactly do gays believe??.. That they should have the same rights guaranteed to every other citizen? That there is a supposedly seperation of church and state in this country?…That all American citizens are equal…?
I think it’s the other way around. Isn’t it more that anti-gay marriage and/ or just anti-gay folks are imposing their beliefs on gays??
(sigh)
Run, 2012, Redeemed #sameperson
So if you bring up subjects such as these, you are automatically not worrying about what’s going on around you? I guess I’m a multi-tasker.
As strongly as some feel about being a proponent of gay marriage, is as strong as others who are oponents of gay marriage. Some people are concerned because they believe it’s a total disregard for the definition of marriage, and also the fact that these agendas are being shoved down the throats of their children. Yes, parents have the responsibility to teach their children their belief system until that child is old enough to make up their own mind, but on the other hand, no one wants their children being taught something that is the total antithesis of what they (the parent) believes in. All this eventually will be taught in schools. While some may think it’s no big deal or that there are bigger fish to fry, some are just as opposed to it. Can you imagine if a schools decided to teach your child about something you didn’t believe in? People would be blowing up the schools, yet these agendas will probably be taught to your children whether you like it or not. Public schools can’t even mention the Ten Commandments.
@Y, no worries, and BTW, you didn’t come off like as sarcastic, disrespectful or intolerant to me.
Question, what black churches have ya’ll be to that talked down to homosexuals? I’ve been going to black churches all my life and never had I heard any preacher antagonize, brutalize, or in any way condemn the homosexual. In fact, many of the choir directors were gay, and they were allowed to continue their ministry.
They may not agree with the lifestyle, but they always showed love for the individual.
I wanna have Carringtons e-baby *swoons*
and 67089879877 mufuggin
for post #78
SEXUAL CHOCOLATE! *drops mic and bounces*
KrazyKat,
Can you imagine what your days would be like if you spent an equal amount of time “multi-tasking” and worrying about people who have premarital sex as you do homosexuality?
How much time would you have left in your day if you added the liars to multi-tasking? When you see a fine broad (and I’m assuming you’re a dude) and married or not, you start thinking about what you could do to her, are you not coveting another’s wife?
Again, this goes back to picking and choosing. YOU want to make this about morality, but YOU”RE making the decision as to what qualifies.
Stop that brother on the street from selling weed. Stop drinking alcohol and spend as much time “multi-tasking” and worrying about THEM as you do homosexuals and you have my undivided attention, if your focus is simply the gays while you hang out with a bunch of brothers looking for some p*ssy this weekend, you’re a hypocrite and I would worry about my OWN place in heaven more than I’d worry about somebody else’s right ot get to marry.
@KrayZKat says,
They may not agree with the lifestyle, but they always showed love for the individual.
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Would that be tantamount to klansmen saying they hate niggers but you’re cool.
@Awesome, no it wouldn’t because a Klansman would not be cool with me.
One issue (homosexuality) is about the action, the other (homosexual) is about a person. You can love someone, but not agree with what they do.
we getting all political up in here?
what we talkin bout>?
@KrayZKat Most of the time it’s people taking an EXTREME case and blanketing it over every church or all christians.
It’s like when people say:
“there are no good black men.”
“All black women are baby mommas”
“All black women are crazy”
“All black men who date women of other races hate themselves”
They take the most extreme example of something and use it as if it applies to all.
But what some people fail to realize is that you calling Christians “fools” “crazy” “bible thumpers” “hypocrite” and attacking the things they believe is the same thing they accuse Christians of doing which is attacking them.
Some non-believers judge more than Christians do but…
@Carrington, LOL. Actually, I’m a female.
What you said would be true if I sat around worrying about what people do all day, but I don’t. However, I do encompass those around me into my life. I’m focusing on gay marriage because that’s the topic of the thread. I am not anyone’s judge. For some people, gay marriage is a morality issue. It is for me. I have my belief system. We all have free will to make whatever choices we do,but it seems as though if that belief system goes against the grain (again POLITICAL INCORRECTNESS) one gets condemned.
Also, my stance on gay marriage doesn’t mean that other issues involving our world aren’t on the table either. Trust me, I used to work and volunteer at the local Urban League and Boys and Girls club all the time until I had to quit. I have other obligations now, but trust and believe, I do my part when I can.
@Mamacita, I could not have said that better! It’s funny how it’s open season on Christians, fat people, and smokers, yet talk about gays/lesbians, Muslims, or any other religion, people bring out the riot gear. It’s amazing!
People love using falacious arguments such as those you mentioned to back up their ignorance, and when you bring the facts to them, they disregard them. The same people saying, “black women are all…” or “black men are all…” i.e. generalizing, are the same ones that would be ready to throw down if someone generalized them.
Great points!
I’m not debating that homosexuality is the issue at hand, where I get a raised eyebrow and side eye is when I ask if you spend as much time and are JUST as emphatically when the “morality” of premarital sex is the topic, or when a liar is the topic, do you go to task THEN, or do you brush it under the rug?
That’s what I mean when I say people CHOOSE their morals. If you’re going to go with the bible, go with it. Don’t flip through the pages that apply to OTHER people and slam your hand down because THAT portion doesn’t apply to you. Slam it EVERYWHERE it’s supposed to go. *wink*
Sometimes, there’s no rhyme or reason behind some people’s logic, Mamacita. My sister says people love to project things on others they are guilty of doing themselves.
I also find it amazing when people say, “Most Christians, churches, black people are…” yet they have no basis for that comment at all because they don’t know most of these groups.
@AM No gays want equal rights and to get married they dont care if you agree with their lifestyle or not so NO they dont force their lifestyle on anybody if they could just be left alone to live life as THEY see fit. Worry about your own bedroom.
Yes, I am a christian and I would NEVER try to tell another fellow christian they were NOT a christian based on their beliefs
I will be at church Sun getting my PRASIE and WORSHIP on like I do most Sundays (and no I just dont wait to Sundays) What makes me a christian is like I said I believe Jesus rose and died for my sins. I do not agree w/everything in the bible (took me a long time to make peace with that) but I know my redeemer lives.
Christ is in the bible so thats all that matters. There are many names of God that are in the bible. Christians follow Christ (or rather try to).
@Carrington Say it again I have heard ppl say they would rather their child be a KILLER vs GAY I think that is just sad and heartbreaking. Sin is Sin at the end of the day but some folks want to make it seem like being gay is the only/biggest sin ever in life.
Mamacita says:
Some non-believers judge more than Christians do but…
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And there you have it let the church say AMEN AMEN and AMEN again
@Carrington, those are good questions. I’m very emphatic about everything I believe in whether it be premarital sex, lying, cheating, abortion, stealing or whatever. I make a lot of enemies that way. I may not voice them here on SR.com like I used to. This subject was interesting to me, so I decided that I would throw my .02. That doesn’t mean that I think this is any worst than other issues of importance to me.
I’m also one who knows that I fall short as well, that’s why I’m not judging anyone. I have no right to judge anyone. I’m just debating the issue at hand.
His_Mommy623 says:
I wanna have Carringtons e-baby *swoons*
SEXUAL CHOCOLATE! *drops mic and bounces*
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just a question:: why are gay people concerned about premarital sex??
For health purposes?? …A real question
@WCC
I didn’t know they were.
YSo your so gifted and smart …you have taught me so much *plays in your hair
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i never “drank the kool aid”…he does flip flop, but what president in our history has done or not done everything they promised?
funny story, when my girlfriend and i went to vote in the primary’s as we left this black man said to us “when obama win’s will get to be the slave owners and white people will be our slaves”. this fool really believed it too. smh
The bible speaks against fornication too….
People don’t seem to get as upset about that tho’
Twitter went horribly wrong again last nite…..but that rih/ciara Twitter beef was funny as hail!!
What twitter beef? What could 2 non singing heffas fight about? That’s like running through a corn field backwards…
@ Dawn
When ciara was on fashion police they were talkin bout wut rih rih wore to that British awards show and when ciara was asked wut she thought bout the dress she came rite out and said that she had a run in wit rih and she wasn’t nice to her (which wasn’t relevant to the reason she was on the show)
Then rih rih got on Twitter and clapped back
ciara tired to get gangsta wit rih and rih gave her a low blow bout ciara tanking career (u definitely need to read it it was funny)
Then they unexpectedly made up *side eye*