A female wing walker died in a fiery plane crash at a Dayton, Ohio air show on Saturday, June 22. Jane Wicker, a single mother of 2 teenage boys, died along with her pilot, Charlie Schwenker. The tragic accident occurred during the Vectran Air Show in Dayton at 12:45 p.m. Saturday in front of horrified spectators.
A video uploaded to Youtube.com shows Wicker sitting on the bottom of the wing as the biplane flies upside down at 110 mph, about 100 feet above the ground. As Wicker begins waving to the crowd, the wing suddenly dipped and the biplane plowed straight into the ground, exploding in a giant fireball.
“I noticed it was upside down really close to the ground,” spectator Shawn Warwick told the Dayton Daily News. “She was sitting on the bottom of the plane,” he said. “I saw it just go right into the ground and explode.”
According to the Daily Mail UK, Wicker took an interest in aviation in 1988. She took flying lessons and earned her pilot’s license in 1989, all while working full time as a budget analyst at the FAA.
Wicker met her husband, Kirk Wicker, at a wing-walking audition in 1989 and he became her first pilot. The couple had 2 boys before divorcing in 2002.
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DAMN… LIKE WHOA
She would be alive today if she had been at home with her children instead of indulging her dangerous fantasies.
Ouch…
Awe
The video made it look like she was on a roller coaster ride, except for the flames at the end.
@Sandra I agree this was risky behavior as a mother: however, when it’s your time to pass that’s what will happen. Accidents can occur anywhere; car, home, business, workplace. Sometimes a fatalities are caused by unfortunate circumstance of no fault of the victim. That being said, while I have the responsibility of being a mother I can still live my life and do things I enjoy…
Dont understand y it dipped like tht!
I totally agree with you Miss Sandra! As a single mother of 2 children, she should have had more caution with her life. Now these kids are motherless. I hope there is a father(s) in the picture for these poor kids
The day I had my son I stopped doing things like thrill rides at amusement parks and such other stupid shyte. I am a mother first and I can look back at all the dumb thrill seeking I did back in the day with clarity (what the hell was I thinking!!)
That is so sad. That’s exactly why I stay away from stuff like that and animals.
Hey y’all..!
That’s just crazy. Was it pilot error or…?
Wow may she rest in peace AND Sandra that was a very cruel thing to say, EVERYBODY has a birth date and a death date when it’s your time it’s just your time. You should be ashamed….
Next time you have a personal conversation with God about people’s confirmed expiration dates please make sure you have a post on it. I’ll surely be tuned in.
Who’s to say she couldn’t have had an accident at home, it happens unfortunately. Not even gonna lie that was judgmental and all around wrong
Whoa that video….OHMY
RIP
I believe you can cut your time short by doing something foolish. The good book says “…do not be foolish: why should you die before your time ( ecc. 7:17)” and also says not to tempt God.
We can talk for days about how foolish she was to do this and indirectly imply that she caused her own death. However, we all put ourselves at risk in this world where anything can happen at any point in time. Do we lessen/increase our chances of being harmed/killed by certain activities, yes. But more people die doing “everyday” things than people die doing stunts.
My heart goes out to her boys and other dear loved ones.
Sandra Rose says:
She would be alive today if she had been at home with her children instead of indulging her dangerous fantasies.
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Sandra I love your site but that ^^^^ right there is not ok.
Like I tell my patients when they ask me what the risks of treatment are.. there is a risk with everything you do in life and you took a risk just by waking up today.
She was providing for her kids when this happened and she was well trained. She could have died in an electrical fire while making waffles for her sons. When your time comes your time comes. At least it was while she was providing for her kids.
She was providing for her children and they are way better off then the ones walking and talking and are not doing anything for their children at all.
Shocking to watch, yet, pointless death.
To clarify, yes – we are all going to go somehow, sometime.
However, I have a hard time sympathizing with adrenaline junkies – who – by definition – are really testing death. For fun! BY CHOICE.
So that’s a WORLD of difference from say me walking out my house to go to work in the morning and getting into a car wreck. Or any other type of accident for that matter.
When you specifically seek shyt, don’t be surprised when you get it.
I got nothing else.
MORNING ROSES, THORNS, & LURKERS
You can die in two feet of water.
this was her means of support for her family.
Sad that she died. Life is always a crap shoot.
Good Morning Sandra, Roses, Thorns and Lurkers. Hussies, heffas, heauxs, Biatches, scuzzies, and the like too.
Oh and I forgot, hello haters
So because I work in an office, I am guaranteed the time I’m here? Its not like she woke up and got in a plane one day with no experience. She was a professional, it just happened.
Morning Roses! I see yall starting already. So then let’s get to it. I don’t feel like she was doing this for attention or an “adrenaline junkie”. That was her job. It just so happen that her JOB was doing something she loved. It’s a shame she died. But let’s remember, that when it’s your time to go, no matter what you do, it’s going to be your time. God Bless her and her family.
She would be alive today if she had been at home with her children instead of indulging her dangerous fantasies.<—-This was her job, she died doing something she loved. A lot of us wish we could be doing something we loved and had passion for and still get a paycheck. I'm pretty sure that her and the pilot practiced this a million times before doing it at the airshow. Like others' said uptop, when it's your time, it's your time.
for both their families…
Just because this isn’t something you would do personally doesn’t mean that she is wrong for doing something that she loved. Hell, I bet if you looked at how much money they make, you’d be thinking twice about condemning her as an adrenaline junkie.
Morning Roses
Hey Future
Hey Donte. So, idk why you think your lil press n curl is the bidness, but I need you to cut it boo.. PLEASE!
RAZZLE says:
You can die in two feet of water. this was her means of support for her family.
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She worked full-time for the FAA. This was not her only means of support. I’ll take my million-to-one chance of slipping on a banana peel over increasing my risk of death exponentially by hanging off the wing of a plane.
@ Cubarican: You increase your chances of death by living dangerously and taking more risks. As a nurse, should I tell people to keep right on smoking even though they increase their chance of death from lung cancer?
Nthabi says:
However, I have a hard time sympathizing with adrenaline junkies – who – by definition – are really testing death. For fun! BY CHOICE.
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Hey you military women with kids, you’d better get your asses home before something happens since you choose to indulge in your dangerous “fantasy” I mean career.
Just the messenger
Dr. O says:
She was providing for her kids when this happened and she was well trained. She could have died in an electrical fire while making waffles for her sons.
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What are the odds of her dying in an electrical fire in her kitchen vs. dying while hanging off the wing of a plane? I’ll wait while you do the calculations.
What are the odds of her dying in an electrical fire in her kitchen vs. dying while hanging off the wing of a plane? I’ll wait while you do the calculations
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San says:
Hey you military women with kids, you’d better get your asses home before something happens since you choose to indulge in your dangerous “fantasy” I mean career. Just the messenger
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I bess get on before I die!
I don’t think the two can really be compared. There are no benefits to smoking and it effects your health. This woman was a registered pilot like I am a register car driver. Everytime I get in a car I take a great risk of crashing, even more so then riding in a plane. The things they do like lets say the Blue Angels, are practiced time and time again. They reduce their risks when flying with several precautions, just like I reduce my risk in the car by wearing a seat belt, going the speed limit, and paying attention to the road. We all do what we can to reduce risks in our life. I’m sure this was something she loved to do. If she did all she could to reduce the risk, and was doing something she was passionate about I don’t see why she can’t be a mother and this at the same time. Being a mother doesn’t isn’t a life sentence of conformity and sadness. I would never fly a plane but hey that’s me.
I bess get on before I die!
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I would have never thought this convo would arise from this tragedy. Wow
Sandra Rose says:
Nthabi says:
However, I have a hard time sympathizing with adrenaline junkies – who – by definition – are really testing death. For fun! BY CHOICE.
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This selfish woman did not consider the fact that she had 2 sons to raise. All she cared about was the rush she got from living dangerously. Is it any wonder why she was divorced? And I’m sure her insurance company will refuse to pay out. So her boys are left with nothing.
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This was her career, she’s been doing if for 20 yrs. Yes she was divorced, but she was also engaged. So what about ppl who race cars?
Sandra Rose says:
RAZZLE says:
You can die in two feet of water. this was her means of support for her family.
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She worked full-time for the FAA. This was not her only means of support. I’ll take my million-to-one chance of slipping on a banana peel over increasing my risk of death exponentially by hanging off the wing of a plane.
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She still got money for doing air shows.. air shows pay a lot. so it was a type of support for her family. Whether it’d be extra money in the boy’s pocket so they can do what they like in their spare time, or saving it for their futures. It doesn’t matter. I’ll say it again, Just because this isn’t something you would do personally doesn’t mean that she is wrong for doing something that she loved.
I would very much like to drive cars…but I don’t have the race money.
QueenSJ says:
However, we all put ourselves at risk in this world where anything can happen at any point in time.
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I’ll take my chances dying while blogging vs hanging off the wing of a plane. I’m shocked that some of you think you have the same chance of dying as a person who takes extremely stupid risks with their lives. Yes, you can die walking down the street, and a tire blows out on a car and the car swerves and hits you. But what are the chances of that happening? This foolish woman INCREASED her chances of dying by taking extreme risks with her life. She had a job. SHE WORKED FOR THE FAA. She is no different from a drug addict who risks death with every snort. She gets no sympathy from me.
SO WHO WATCHED TRUE BLOOD LAST NIGHT?
@Sandra, I would love to know how to bold my font.
I tried
Who here took FST in highschool?
Lets break out these stats and probabilities Sandra is looking for….
:bold: ??
Cubarican says:
This woman was a registered pilot like I am a register car driver. Everytime I get in a car I take a great risk of crashing, even more so then riding in a plane.
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The next time you get behind the wheel of a car, try steering with your foot while hanging your entire body out of the car window. That’s the equivalent of what she was doing. She was not “riding in a plane” — she was riding ON THE WING of the plane without a parachute. I’m sure sitting on the wing of a plane going 110 mph was not one of the requirements to obtain a pilot’s license. In fact, I’m sure the FAA doesn’t give out licenses for what she was doing.
Cubarican says:
If she did all she could to reduce the risk,
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Explain to me how you reduce the risk of death while hanging upside down off the wing of a plane going 110 mph without a parachute?
try steering with your foot while hanging your entire body out of the car window. That’s the equivalent of what she was doing
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How is this the equivalent when there was a pilot?
Topic change? Anyone?
Right now her kids are probably sad and mad as hell that their mom was a wing woman. What else matters?
The next time you get behind the wheel of a car, try steering with your foot while hanging your entire body out of the car window.
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Well In Chicago it’s this park called Washington Park and when it gets hot outside..the guys come there to show off their cars or bikes…so on Father’s Day it was a guy in his souped up Mustang…doing that same exact thing…you just mention in the comment.
@ Anna: They don’t call it a “daredevil” sport for nothing. She dared the devil once too many times and she lost. Now her teenage sons are left without a mother.
What did you go see Caramel?
RAZZLE says:
How is this the equivalent when there was a pilot?
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My point was she was not doing what she was licensed to do — flying the plane. You’re not licensed to ride on the hood of a car while it’s flying down the highway at 110mph.
Did you know you’re more liable to die from a hospital infection than you were to die in a car crash?
In fact, you’re at a higher risk of dying from a hospital infeciton than you are an air/space accident…
I fully agree with Sandra. I ain’t doing nothing to increase my chances of leaving my 3 kids without a mother. I don’t bungee jump or nun of that crazy chit. Kids NEED their mother like they need no other person on this earth.
@ Razzle, I saw World War Z..
Save your money.. Worst $10.50 I ever spent
ITA with you Sandra. I have very little patience for those who think they can cheat death and come up a winner every time.
God is not mocked.
As a parent, taking unnecessary risks is irresponsible.
Sandra Rose says:
RAZZLE says:
How is this the equivalent when there was a pilot?
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My point was she was not doing what she was licensed to do — flying the plane. You’re not licensed to ride on the hood of a car while it’s flying down the highway at 110mph.
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We’re not licensed to “ghost ride the whip” and folks in the Bay Area still did it.
RAZZLE says:
Did you know you’re more liable to die from a hospital infection than you were to die in a car crash?
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Unless you are hospitalized every day of your life, you have a higher risk of dying in a car crash.
Sandra Rose says:
@ Anna: They don’t call it a “daredevil” sport for nothing. She dared the devil once too many times and she lost. Now her teenage sons are left without a mother.
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Most would say she died doing something she loved. I do understand what you are saying. Surprised you didn’t go so far as to say, she should not have had kids.
Flying is fine. and Yes when your time is up, your time is up. But why play with your life like that? Life is too fragile. You can only cheat death so many times. When somebody dies from some crazy chit they decide to do, it’s their own fault. Sometimes it aint got nothing to do with God, satan, or it being “their time” to go. Sometimes, it’s just a bad decision by the individual.
AllNYC says:
ITA with you Sandra. I have very little patience for those who think they can cheat death and come up a winner every time.
God is not mocked.
As a parent, taking unnecessary risks is irresponsible.
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LOL @ Anna
Sandra Rose says:
RAZZLE says:
Did you know you’re more liable to die from a hospital infection than you were to die in a car crash?
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Unless you are hospitalized every day of your life, you have a higher risk of dying in a car crash.
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1 in 38 die from hospital infections.
1 in 84 die from car accidents.
1 in 5051 die from air/space accidents.
What are the odds of me winning the lotto? I dont need the Power Ball or non, I’ll take the $500,000 jackpot
She died because the plane crashed, she’d have died even if she was strapped in sitting next to the pilot.
Sandra just because you don’t agree with her second professional career doesnt mean you should blame her for dying in this crash.
you throw so much shade on your blog, how about if one of your ‘victims’ gets ‘blog rage’ and decides to do something about it, should we say she deserved it for putting herself out there?
For example…if a person sits at a table and decides to play the real russian roulette. You mean to tell me it’s okay to think it was just “their time to go”? ppl will say “God don’t make no mistakes”. That is true, but this fool azz person that decided to play this game and go with the odds, made the damn mistake. RIP fool is what I’d say
AllNYC says:
I have very little patience for those who think they can cheat death and come up a winner every time. God is not mocked.
As a parent, taking unnecessary risks is irresponsible.
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@Zimbo so if the dude in your avi got toe the hell up by that ferocious animal he is hugging, is it not his fault??
ZimboChick- is that man caressing that Lioness?
I had basically said what you said to Sandra (about agreeing with what she did) and she had something to say about everything else I said.
She’s going to stick to her guns though.. It’s her blog. “I’m Never Wrong!” -Sandra Rose a la Truchable from Matilda.
libra80sbaby says:
I ain’t doing nothing to increase my chances of leaving my 3 kids without a mother. I don’t bungee jump or nun of that crazy chit. Kids NEED their mother like they need no other person on this earth.
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1 in 2 of getting cancer
1 in 36 selected on The Price is Right
1 in 175 being audited by IRS
1 in 2.2 beating house in hand of jackpot
1 in 500 being born in 11 fingers or toes
1 in 1,820 dying in the next year
1 in 12,00 finding a pearl in oyster
1 in 22,00 being a pro athlete
1 in 354,319 dying in airplace accident
1 in 616,488 killed by fireworks
A mother’s job is to raise and nurture her children. She had a full-time job, which means her sons rarely saw their mother in between her job, her hobby and pursuing men. I have no patience for selfish women having babies and then abandoning them to pursue their own interests. You put your life on hold for at least 18 years when you have kids. It’s no longer about YOU and what YOU want. It’s about your children and what they need: a full-time mother. You nurture while your man works and provides. If you have to work, then you work part-time so you can be home when they come home from school. If any of this isn’t possible, don’t have children!
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I’m not feeling well today.
So my posts will be painfully slow today. My apologies in advance. You’re free to roam the Internet. Thanks for visiting. 
If you have to work, then you work part-time so you can be home when they come home from school. If any of this isn’t possible, don’t have children!
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@ Aunt Sandy, what’s the matter? Have you taken any pain medication?! Prolly just sinus issues huh? Flonase is my best friend…
libra80sbaby says:
When somebody dies from some crazy chit they decide to do, it’s their own fault. Sometimes it aint got nothing to do with God, satan, or it being “their time” to go. Sometimes, it’s just a bad decision by the individual.
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Caramel Rain says:
@ Razzle, I saw World War Z..
I think Next wednesday will be the first time I’ll spend money on movie tickets in three years. It’s Lil Razz’s fourth birthday and I would like to see, I mean take him to see Dispicable Me 2. 
Save your money.. Worst $10.50 I ever spent
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I heard it was horrible. Another movie about zombies I see. I rarely pay to see movies anyway since I wait til they hit Red Box.
It’s Lil Razz’s fourth birthday and I would like to see, I mean take him to see Dispicable Me 2
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My son and I can’t wait to go see that!!!
libra80sbaby says:
For example…if a person sits at a table and decides to play the real russian roulette. You mean to tell me it’s okay to think it was just “their time to go”?
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Exactly.
You’re free to roam the Internet. Thanks for visiting.
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Feel better Sandra
If you have to work, then you work part-time so you can be home when they come home from school. If any of this isn’t possible, don’t have children!
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@Sandra I love you butterum…I have a son and I work full time, and we do ok. My momma or his father gets him until I get home from work. And really working part time does not make ends meet. IJS
RIP
Good Morning Roses and Thorns
no roll call this am but I see yall have been lured into the fuggery. 
Nakeya_j says:
It’s Lil Razz’s fourth birthday and I would like to see, I mean take him to see Dispicable Me 2
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My son and I can’t wait to go see that!!!
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I liked the first one because Pharelle produced the music used for the movie.
What caught my attention this time is that they used Eminem for the promotion of the movie…
“Guess who’s back, back again, Shady’s back. tell a friend!” I damn there sang the whole song and lil razz was looking at me like
then he busted out laughing
Caramel Rain says:
It takes 2 incomes, in most cases to survive…
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And it takes 2 people to make a baby. It also takes a brain to determine that the man you are opening your legs to might not be a good provider for you and your kids.
@ Razz, I didnt really want to see it and I usually dont go to movies either but I had to go somewhere and make it seem like I had something to do since somebody decided to drag their @ss home at 3am Sun nite but that’s a whole ‘nother convo
RAZZLE is the
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Caramel Rain says:
@ Razzle, I saw World War Z..
Save your money.. Worst $10.50 I ever spent
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I heard it was horrible. Another movie about zombies I see. I rarely pay to see movies anyway since I wait til they hit Red Box. I think Next wednesday will be the first time I’ll spend money on movie tickets in three years. It’s Lil Razz’s fourth birthday and I would like to see, I mean take him to see Dispicable Me 2
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Me and Mr. Libra saw that chit Saturday…good movie to me, just a remake of I Am Legend with Brad Pitt
@ Razzle. I am def going to take my son to see that one the weekend it comes out. Those little minions tickle me. We saw Monsters University on Saturday, not as good as the first one but it was cute.
Sandra Rose says:
Caramel Rain says:
It takes 2 incomes, in most cases to survive…
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And it takes 2 people to make a baby. It also takes a brain to determine that the man you are opening your legs to might not be a good provider for you and your kids.
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Well not everyone uses their brains and everyone makes mistakes. Go drink some green tea Sandra!
welp, guess I need to get to work
Caramel Rain says:
@ Razz, I didnt really want to see it and I usually dont go to movies either but I had to go somewhere and make it seem like I had something to do since somebody decided to drag their @ss home at 3am Sun nite but that’s a whole ‘nother
Went to the movies, lunch, mani pedi, shopping, friends house, libray…was gone from 10am until 2am. He was 
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I’ve done that too
Get well Sandra lawd knows we need you to
Sandra
hope you feel better soon.
Sheeew I’m excited for lil Razz to go to the movie.
libra80sbaby says:
Caramel Rain says:
@ Razz, I didnt really want to see it and I usually dont go to movies either but I had to go somewhere and make it seem like I had something to do since somebody decided to drag their @ss home at 3am Sun nite but that’s a whole ‘nother
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I’ve done that too Went to the movies, lunch, mani pedi, shopping, friends house, libray…was gone from 10am until 2am. He was
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libra80sbaby says:
Caramel Rain says:
@ Razz, I didnt really want to see it and I usually dont go to movies either but I had to go somewhere and make it seem like I had something to do since somebody decided to drag their @ss home at 3am Sun nite but that’s a whole ‘nother
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I’ve done that too Went to the movies, lunch, mani pedi, shopping, friends house, libray…was gone from 10am until 2am. He was
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what through him off was when he came in, I didnt fuss and fight like he expected! But while I was out I had my phone off the whole time. Had like 5 voicemails.. “Where you at..”
Betamax82 says:
RIP
Have you all already discussed Dark Girls yet
^^ I haven’t seen it. How was it? Anything notable?
Nakeya_j says:
My momma or his father gets him until I get home from work.
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Is his father sick or disabled? Why is he at home while you’re out working? His job is to provide. That means working 2 or 3 jobs, if necessary. My little brother was a teenage father. He worked 2 jobs to provide for his son. He worked the nightshift, then he came home, took a shower, ate breakfast and left to work his day job.
Betamax82 says:
RIP
Have you all already discussed Dark Girls yet
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No but I did watched a little bit of it…
Man Sandra be trolling
What time did dark girls come on?
@ Caramel Rain; Here is another gentle reminder that men are not natural babysitters. They don’t have the patience for young’ns that women have.
Miany I only caught like an hour of it will finish watching tonight but lets just say some of our people are ignorant and some are damaged I was just in awe at some of the things they were saying
Kirk is on 107.5 WGCI this morning… talking about his “frustrations” with Rasheeda.
Trend so what is your take on the little you saw
Razzle maybe @ 8 I caught it @ midnight
aye man…. I read this story asking for advice and boy I thought this was fake… but dude is dead serious…. BRB…
RAZZLE says:
Man Sandra be trolling
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He’s not working but he can be out until 3 in the morning? Instead of leaving her kids with him all day, she should have sat him down and discussed job openings with him. It sounds like he needs a job to fill his down time so she doesn’t have to work so much.
Is his father sick or disabled? Why is he at home while you’re out working? His job is to provide. That means working 2 or 3 jobs, if necessary. My little brother was a teenage father. He worked 2 jobs to provide for his son. He worked the nightshift, then he came home, took a shower, ate breakfast and left to work his day job.
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His father and I don’t live together. So his dad get off work before I do, so that’s why he will keep him until I get off of work. He was a poo poo bf (yes I should of been smarter) but he is a good dad. He does work. and he does provide without me having to tell him so.
Nope, lion is photoshopped.
@Razzle
Folks this is a tragedy.
Good luck seeking immortality while maintaining a ‘risk free’ life.
Um Keya, I think that was meant for you
RAZZLE is the
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Kirk is on 107.5 WGCI this morning… talking about his “frustrations” with Rasheeda.
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He’s not working but he can be out until 3 in the morning? Instead of leaving her kids with him all day, she should have sat him down and discussed job openings with him. It sounds like he needs a job to fill his down time so she doesn’t have to work so much.
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Wait, who is this? Kenya? I thought she did not have any kids?
Morning & chit
What I miss?????
Kirk is on 107.5 WGCI this morning… talking about his “frustrations” with Rasheeda.
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And what did he have to say? I saw she put him on blast (kind of) on IG
Um Keya, I think that was meant for you
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Yeah, but we don’t live together and I don’t leave my son with him all day because he works. I think Sandra has it a bit mixed up. But that’s ok. lol lol
Lord…and tired of this convo
Sandra is truly sick cause she just mixing fonts together
@Sandra that was Kenya’s BF out until 3. My son’s father and I are not together. I think you mixed the two stories up.
Nakeya_j says:
His father and I don’t live together. So his dad get off work before I do, so that’s why he will keep him until I get off of work.
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Men are not babysitters, they are hunters/providers. If he gets off work before you do, it sounds like he has time to go to a second job so you don’t have to work full-time. I realize it’s too late because I doubt he will get a second job just to support your kids, but you can use your experience to teach young girls to do better when choosing a father for their children.
Sandra Rose says:
RAZZLE says:
Man Sandra be trolling
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He’s not working but he can be out until 3 in the morning?
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You’re cold is getting in the way…. This is two different fonts you’re talking about
@Razzle & Nakeya…I’m bored so I’ll ask… What is Kirk saying?? what Rasheeda say on IG???
Hey dem babies mama
If he gets off work before you do, it sounds like he has time to go to a second job so you don’t have to work full-time
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I am dying. Help me breath
Keya idk… I just saw the title and what not but let me go get this story form this advice column
@Miany Hey girl. Rasheeda was on iG talking about some, if Kirk can post stuff on IG then why can’t he answer the phone when he sees his kid calling him. I guess the kid was calling him and was waiting for him to do something, but he was not answering but on IG. Just messy.
I know he was HOT! U was gone all day lol I shoulda got a mani/pedi too, that woulda killed more time…
what through him off was when he came in, I didnt fuss and fight like he expected! But while I was out I had my phone off the whole time. Had like 5 voicemails.. “Where you at..”
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I didn’t say a word either. I got up that morning. took a shower, dressed very nice, beat my face and hair and walked out. I turned my phone off too. When I turned it on, I had like 15 text messages and several voicemails. He didn’t do that chit no more. My motto is, if you can do it to me, I can do it to you..but my chit gone be worse
I am a 33 year old man who has a lovely wife that I’ve been married to for 10 years. We’ve had our ups and downs but she’s right beside me. The problem is, i have an appetite for other women, my woman is a damn good wife, she holds me down, she pleases me sexually, she cooks, cleans the ho…use, she’s submissive, she’s everything a woman is supposed to be. But i just can’t shake my desire for other women, when we got together i was having sex with 4 other women. She found out and forgave me i stopped for a while then i started having sex with a girl we knew back in highschool. I think I’ve had sex with at least 70 women throughout our marriage. My wife is really hurt and i can’t get her to trust me but i don’t expect her to cause i told her about these problems, i told her as a man, i can’t help it sometimes, I think she also gets mad because i don’t go down on her but she goes down on me. Lately my wife doesn’t want to have sex with me, she tells me she just doesn’t want to so i think it’s leaning towards a divorce, i love her to death and don’t want her to leave. How do i get her to stay with me ?
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As Sandra would say, He’s just fulfilling God’s commandment to sew his seed and multiply.
Mernin bombshell! Just the great woman’s roles debate again.
huh? I dont have any kids.. He does work but he was out kicking it and BSing til 3am which is why I left and went to the movies
But if we did have kids, I wouldnt have any reservations about leaving my kids with their father, or my father or my brother or my mama or his mama! That’s what he’s supposed to do! Id be a lil hesistant about his folks tho
@ keya, yea, it’s ok! Auntie Sandy doesn’t feel well today
Now most people are going to assume that you have to be kidding to even send me this email and ask how you can get your wife to stay with you. However, seeing the things that I have seen in life, I realize that you are dead serious. You do not understand the damage you have done because you do not equate sex with love. I am simply going to say this. Let your wife go and find a man who truly desires to be a husband. You are doing nothing but causing her pain, disrespecting her, and ruining her life. She will probably not walk away from you since she has not already but if you truly love her, you will let her go. She does not want to have sex with you because the act of it means nothing anymore. Not a damn thing! You want her to suck your dick after she knows you have been implanted it in an average of 7 women a year? You have some serious issues and you need to join a positive men’s coalition and ask for some guidance or seek counseling. If you cannot understand why she does not trust you, there is nothing that I can say to change that. Good luck and I am going to pray for your wife to see the light and leave if you are not man enough to do it. She sounds like wonderful wife material and you will never appreciate her AT ALL.
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^^^^^^
the response to the advice asked…
My bro works 2 jobs. I barely see him. When I do, it’s sleeping or off to the other. His exes don’t give a hoot
@Sandra….my dad is an awesome father and provider. He works day and night and my mother hasn’t held a real job in 14+ years. Now I commend my dad for supporting and providing for us but, I must say I do not think GOD intended DADS to work like slaves. I wish my daddy didn’t have to work so much. I personally think it would be best if the two shared the load at all times. Two people working as one with one common goal and one common loyalty (the family) aint nothing better than that IMO.. aint no use having a good man if you gone work him into the ground.
Men are not babysitters, they are hunters/providers. If he gets off work before you do, it sounds like he has time to go to a second job so you don’t have to work full-time. I realize it’s too late because I doubt he will get a second job just to support your kids, but you can use your experience to teach young girls to do better when choosing a father for their children.
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I only have the one kid Sandra! lol And as co-parents we are supposed to provide for him together. SO he does his part and I do mine. But yes, young women should learn from me and see the signs before its too late. But even with that, my kid is a joy so I would not have it any other way. It is what it is. Oh and feel better!
Nakeya_j says:
@Sandra that was Kenya’s BF out until 3.
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Well, if she doesn’t have any kids with him, then her bf can stay out all night if he wants to. She’s right not to have kids with him because the writing is already on the wall.
Nakeya_j says:
@Miany Hey girl. Rasheeda was on iG talking about some, if Kirk can post stuff on IG then why can’t he answer the phone when he sees his kid calling him. I guess the kid was calling him and was waiting for him to do something, but he was not answering but on IG. Just messy.
^^ I need em to stop looking stupid for fake attention… stupid azz married couple bout to let this decade long relationship fall apart publicly. All in the interest of puttin on for folk who DGAFF
aint no use having a good man if you gone work him into the ground.
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Ion even know what to say to that story Razzle a mess
Well, if she doesn’t have any kids with him, then her bf can stay out all night if he wants to.
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@Sandra, you don’t find that disrespectful? I would think he should come home at a decent hour? No? Thoughts?
Men are not babysitters, they are hunters/providers. If he gets off work before you do, it sounds like he has time to go to a second job so you don’t have to work full-time. I realize it’s too late because I doubt he will get a second job just to support your kids, but you can use your experience to teach young girls to do better when choosing a father for their children.
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I expected a lot of the women to react the way they did, that is fine but i think it’s wrong for people to say my wife should leave me when women put up with far worse, i don’t abuse my wife or nothing…, i treat her good and just because i don’t go down on her doesn’t make me a terrible husband. I know what I’m doing is messed up but i don’t want her to leave because i do want to change, She’s a christian woman and believes in forgiveness which is why she’s stayed and she loves me. All those women commenting I bet over half have loved somebody and put up with their shit, Y’all can say I’m a hoe i don’t care i just want to save my marriage, If she cheated on me i could never be mad because i would just be getting it back, does it mean i would stay? Probably not because y’all are right most men can’t handle their women cheating but it’s a choice to stay, i want her to stay. Not cause I’m selfish but because i love her and i want this to be my first, last and only marriage. Understand that cheating doesn’t make you a bad man and just like y’all saying men don’t understand how women look at things a lot of women don’t understand how a man looks at things or how his mind works. And i also don’t go down on any of the women that i have sex with and i don’t get head from them either. I’m not asking for y’all to like me or accept me because none of you have to be with me, i just want my wife to stay with me. If no one can understand that then i don’t know what else to say.
And what’s with the male bashing comments? Men are dogs? So does that make women dogs? People need to stop acting like women are perfect and can’t do no wrong, we all have our flaws. You don’t have to accept mine i don’t need any of you to but those comments about men aren’t necessary. Thank you for giving a real answer even if i don’t agree i can respect it, i wasn’t expecting you or anyone to be cool with what i said. I just needed to know how i could make my wife stay with me. To the miserable ladies, a lot of you are not single by choice, a lot of you are single because you are judgmental and just as selfish as you claim men are, and for the girl who said submission is a problem, that’s why a lot of women of color are single because you want to be a man instead of allowing him to lead. Don’t take it as a race thing because i am a man of color myself, anyway peace.
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His response after the reply was given and other commenters clowning his ass
I said that if he’s willing to “change” and he should get counseling for his addiction and then go to couples counciling for his relationship if she’s willing to stay… after all of the shat he put her through, 70 women and 10 years… I wouldn’t. I’d be putting my own [mental and physical] health (as I did 70 other times) at risk if I’d stay longer
All in the interest of puttin on for folk who DGAFF
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Amen. And really we don’t. We just get bored and talk about them. Rasheeda should know that seeing how not a soul buys her albums….
Sandra Rose says:
Nakeya_j says:
@Sandra that was Kenya’s BF out until 3.
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Well, if she doesn’t have any kids with him, then her bf can stay out all night if he wants to. She’s right not to have kids with him because the writing is already on the wall.
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Sandra just can’t say “Aye man, my bad. I got mixed up.”
Ok yall..I gotta actually go be chit at work. I’ll font later
@#BEDAZZLED…HE needs his counseling. SOund like a sex addict. After counseling he need to hope someone can find him a new wife… cheat on me with 70 women show me u don’t care bout my azz…talk bout some sex addiction? even a crack head got a lil akk right in em…
aint nobody got time fah dat.
Beta- The messed up part is that he tried to put women down when he tried defending himself.
He was mad and you can tell. He is a silly man child.
” You do not understand the damage you have done because you do not equate sex with love.”
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The person giving the advice is a fool. Sex has nothing to do with Love. Love is the responsibility that one feels for the health and well-being of another, such as a life partner, child, parent or friend. Sex is a mechanical function that was originally meant for reproductive purposes. When you mix up sex with Love — before Love has even come into the picture — you end up divorced or brokenhearted.
libra80sbaby says:
I know he was HOT! U was gone all day lol I shoulda got a mani/pedi too, that woulda killed more time…
what through him off was when he came in, I didnt fuss and fight like he expected! But while I was out I had my phone off the whole time. Had like 5 voicemails.. “Where you at..”
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I didn’t say a word either. I got up that morning. took a shower, dressed very nice, beat my face and hair and walked out. I turned my phone off too. When I turned it on, I had like 15 text messages and several voicemails. He didn’t do that chit no more. My motto is, if you can do it to me, I can do it to you..but my chit gone be worse
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Beta
Cubarican :hugs: Oh
When you mix up sex with Love — before Love has even come into the picture — you end up divorced or brokenhearted.
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Imma hve to mfing cosign. Men don’t love you from sex. They will tell you this if you ask. Women get all lovey dovey.
The person giving the advice is a fool. Sex has nothing to do with Love
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Why do people think this? I never understood why ppl think sex and love are one and the same. its not.
RAZZLE is the
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says:
Beta- The messed up part is that he tried to put women down when he tried defending himself. He was mad and you can tell. He is a silly man child.
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Yes he is 10 yrs is a long time to put up with that shyt ion think she will leave hell he’ll probably leave her in the end
Miany says:
@#BEDAZZLED…HE needs his counseling. SOund like a sex addict. After counseling he need to hope someone can find him a new wife… cheat on me with 70 women show me u don’t care bout my azz…talk bout some sex addiction? even a crack head got a lil akk right in em… aint nobody got time fah dat.
manchildren these days 
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No he needs to live the life of a single man that he’s acting like. He doesn’t need to be with another woman on a serious level for at least 2 years after the ink dries on those papers. He is in need of help. He said he wasn’t ‘abusing’ his wife. I’m sorry, the mess he is doing to her is causing her emotional pain and distress. I’m sure that’s a form of abuse.
What up!!
Who dyckmatized or coochie whipped??
Sandra Rose says:
” You do not understand the damage you have done because you do not equate sex with love.”
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The person giving the advice is a fool. Sex has nothing to do with Love
either way… the situation is messed up on all levels.
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I thought she was saying that though… Like, he doesn’t know the difference.
@ RAZZLE: man is only responding to his inner desires passed down to him from his ancestors in Africa thousands of years ago. It is in a man’s DNA to cheat because the evolution of life required man to impregnate multiple women to populate the earth. All babies, whether human or animal, are born with a blueprint that ensures the survival of its species.
Miany says:
@Sandra….my dad is an awesome father and provider.
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He certainly is! He provides for your family and he is an excellent role model for the type of man you should seek for a life partner. Men are built to work hard. Too many men today are sissies who get their nails done and dress prettier than women.
idk…idk what I would do if mr razz stepped out on me… I know for one thing I’m gathering all the proof I need and sending it to his First Shirt….but then that would kind of mess up the child support for lil Razz and any other kids we may have…unless he gives up the SGLI stuff… either way that shat is going to bills for that lawyer… greedy azzes these days
San says:
My bro works 2 jobs. I barely see him. When I do, it’s sleeping or off to the other.
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Your brother is a good man. He has exes because, unlike most women who open their legs to any man, he is waiting for a good woman to be his life partner.
Men are built to work hard. Too many men today are sissies who get their nails done and dress prettier than women.
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“I notice that a dead Trayvon is a well behaved and polite Trayvon. Something he couldn’t quite achieve in life”.
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Comment that I pulled from Yahoo I’ve got to stop reading there
Nakeya_j says:
And as co-parents we are supposed to provide for him together.
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I don’t know who told you that lie. Co-parents means you nurture your child while he works to provide. Men are built to work hard to provide for their families. Women are built to stay home and nurture their children.
I don’t know who told you that lie. Co-parents means you nurture your child while he works to provide. Men are built to work hard to provide for their families. Women are built to stay home and nurture their children.
Let’s agree to disagree.
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Oh the days of doing what he did as get back. I don’t have the time or patience for that ish no more. I am too old. I will just leave you alone
Nakeya_j says:
@Sandra, you don’t find that disrespectful? I would think he should come home at a decent hour? No? Thoughts?
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That man was not born with you attached to his hip. He is an individual just as you are. Communication is key. IF he is going to stay out all night, he should tell you. That’s where the respect comes in. But he does not have to come home at a decent hour just because you think he should. That would mean you control him — and females do not control males.
Too many men today are sissies who get their nails done and dress prettier than women.
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Now this I must completely agree with!
That man was not born with you attached to his hip. (agreed)
He is an individual just as you are. (agreed)
Communication is key.(Very much Agree)
IF he is going to stay out all night, he should tell you. That’s where the respect comes in. (kind of agree)
But he does not have to come home at a decent hour just because you think he should. That would mean you control him — and females do not control males (No one controls the next person, so agreed)
San says:
Men don’t love you from sex. They will tell you this if you ask. Women get all lovey dovey.
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Exactly. Men know that sex is a mechanical function. That’s why they hit it and quit it. Women are the ones who get all emotional after they open their legs to a man.
San says:
Oh the days of doing what he did as get back. I don’t have the time or patience for that ish no more. I am too old. I will just leave you alone
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Right I guess you would have to think about what the revenge will give you in benefit… ultimately nothing… Unless you meet some billionaire, but still you’re damaged so no hope there… Thinking about what’s best for you would be the best choice in the end.
Sandra Rose says:
San says:
Men don’t love you from sex. They will tell you this if you ask. Women get all lovey dovey.
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Exactly. Men know that sex is a mechanical function. That’s why they hit it and quit it. Women are the ones who get all emotional after they open their legs to a man.
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Cant go wront with Mr. Wabbut.
I got 1 job. Guess I ain’t shat!!
Thinking about what’s best for you would be the best choice in the end.
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And that’s all that matters.
Sandra Rose says:
Nakeya_j says:
And as co-parents we are supposed to provide for him together.
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I don’t know who told you that lie. Co-parents means you nurture your child while he works to provide. Men are built to work hard to provide for their families. Women are built to stay home and nurture their children.
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I totally agree
but hell cost of living is so damn high to incomes is needed 
two!
Cant go wront with Mr. Wabbut.
That bullet boy 
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Exactly. Men know that sex is a mechanical function. That’s why they hit it and quit it. Women are the ones who get all emotional after they open their legs to a man.
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Nope you ever heard of a guy named Drake Rhi hit it and quit it and that nicca couldn’t deal
goat76 says:
I got 1 job. Guess I ain’t shat!!
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Shewwww I work full time and I’m taking a dangerous risk by being in the military and I have a four year old… *folds arms* I aint shat right along with you.
goat76 says:
I got 1 job. Guess I ain’t shat!!
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Only if you have kid(s).
goat76 says:
I got 1 job. Guess I ain’t shat!!
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Betamax82 says:
Exactly. Men know that sex is a mechanical function. That’s why they hit it and quit it. Women are the ones who get all emotional after they open their legs to a man.
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Nope you ever heard of a guy named Drake Rhi hit it and quit it and that nicca couldn’t deal
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That man was crying like Keef Sweat after Rihanna
Baby don’t go!
She must got that monstuh snatch or sumptin..
RAZZLE is the
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goat76 says:
I got 1 job. Guess I ain’t shat!!
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Shewwww I work full time and I’m taking a dangerous risk by being in the military and I have a four year old… *folds arms* I aint shat right along with you.
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Lets get in this ain’t shat boat together. Bring you hubby, unless he has 2 jobs…
jeniefrumdabloc says:
cost of living is so damn high to incomes is needed
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It’s funny that only 1 income is needed if you don’t have children. If you’re going to open your legs to a man, and you don’t have the finances to support children, use birth control. It’s that simple. Remember that sex is for procreation, not recreation.
Sandra Rose says:
goat76 says:
I got 1 job. Guess I ain’t shat!!
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Only if you have kid(s).
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Sandra, I’m just playing with you. Gotta find some entertainment for this Monday.
Sandra Rose says:
Caramel Rain says:
It takes 2 incomes, in most cases to survive…
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And it takes 2 people to make a baby. It also takes a brain to determine that the man you are opening your legs to might not be a good provider for you and your kids.
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At Jenie, She’s already addressed that talking point.. Please see above
Betamax82 says:
we keep the stamina we’ve built for Zimmerman start screaming and protesting against the lil knuckleheads that are killing each other.
“I notice that a dead Trayvon is a well behaved and polite Trayvon. Something he couldn’t quite achieve in life”.
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Comment that I pulled from Yahoo I’ve got to stop reading there
^^ Don’t let the devil get in yo head this am…Thing is they allowed to think what they want, say what they want, etc. When it comes to doing what they want, they can. They just need to know black folk aint gone accept them killing ours for the sake of killing ours. They can STILL do it but, we aint havin it.
Now I just
San says:
Cant go wront with Mr. Wabbut.
<– really Bzzz and moaning… 
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That bullet boy
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Remember that sex is for procreation, not recreation.
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Sandra Rose says:
Remember that sex is for procreation, not recreation.
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Yall take note
Sandra Rose says:
jeniefrumdabloc says:
cost of living is so damn high to incomes is needed
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It’s funny that only 1 income is needed if you don’t have children. If you’re going to open your legs to a man, and you don’t have the finances to support children, use birth control. It’s that simple. Remember that sex is for procreation, not recreation.
^^ I can’t follow this SANDRA…It’s just one me here and I dayumm sho need 2 incomes. I aint even a big spender and I need 2 incomes, Heyull that’s part of the reason I deal in long term arrangements.
<– really Bzzz and moaning… –
Righttttt
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Well damn this video is awful
my gawd 
that came out of no where
Remember that sex is for procreation, not recreation.
I’m sad for you auntea. No more glazing fah you. 
^^ by that logic you can NEVER have sex again?????
San says:
Remember that sex is for procreation, not recreation.
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I remember before we created lil razz we stayed fit as hell…
Here’s a scenario: if I was young again, and straight, and some guy who worked at Burger King sweet talked me and started my dopamine juices flowing, I would immediately remind myself that, if I sleep with him and get pregnant, this man cannot provide for me or my child on his income — and I have no plans on working if I have a kid at home.
She must got that monstuh snatch or sumptin..
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jeniefrumdabloc says:
Well damn this video is awful my gawd that came out of no where
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You know there are rules stating that if it’s too windy you’re not supposed to fly, and even when the man was narrating, he said they had to fight the wind. I think the wind caught dude off guard
Chile you need to incomes to support a family
two …. unless you a celeb or have a job making at least 50,000 a year 
if you stay in Atlanta. Food is high as hell ashid 
childcare too
I just can’t deal
This stuff is just too too funny
Sandra Rose says:
Here’s a scenario: if I was young again, and straight, and some guy who worked at Burger King sweet talked me and started my dopamine juices flowing, I would immediately remind myself that, if I sleep with him and get pregnant, this man cannot provide for me or my child on his income — and I have no plans on working if I have a kid at home.
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Sandra Rose says:
Here’s a scenario: if I was young again, and straight, and some guy who worked at Burger King sweet talked me and started my dopamine juices flowing, I would immediately remind myself that, if I sleep with him and get pregnant, this man cannot provide for me or my child on his income — and I have no plans on working if I have a kid at home
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You say that because you know better now.. I say all the time that if I could go back I wouldn’t deal with half the people I did. But Life is one big lesson. SOme people are good at comprehending it, others, aren’t so good…
Miany says:
…It’s just one me here and I dayumm sho need 2 incomes. I aint even a big spender and I need 2 incomes
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When I was in high school I went to the career planning lady in the school library to help me map out my career. We discussed different jobs and salaries, and I chose nursing because I knew that my other choices would not provide for me financially if the economy was poor. A nurse always has a job no matter what. Will you consider going back to school to learn the skills to get a better paying job?
Here’s a scenario: if I was young again, and straight, and some guy who worked at Burger King sweet talked me and started my dopamine juices flowing, I would immediately remind myself that, if I sleep with him and get pregnant, this man cannot provide for me or my child on his income — and I have no plans on working if I have a kid at home
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That would depend on age. If you’re 18 and in college and this is your parttime job to take of yourself, then that’s a different scenario. We’d be taking steps to make sure we dont get pregnant.
But if you got pregnant by the cook, I’m sure he would find a higher paying job to take care of his kids.. idk,
this is not a typical situation and I’m srue most ppl dont plan on getting pregnant by random men 
My gawd did somebody write that about Trayvon on yahoo
I can not read their message boards just awful 
Miany says:
^^ by that logic you can NEVER have sex again?????
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You can have sex with protection.
But if you got pregnant by the cook, I’m sure he would find a higher paying job to take care of his kids.. idk, this is not a typical situation
I can’t
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I am considering going back to school to get a BSN in the fall
It would only take me a 1.5 years! 
Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
^^ by that logic you can NEVER have sex again?????
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You can have sex with protection.
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YOu can get pregnant with protection.
Two of the homies got pregnant WHILE ON BIRTH CONTROL.
Caramel Rain says:
I am considering going back to school to get a BSN in the fall It would only take me a 1.5 years!
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Go for it :cheerleader:
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You say that because you know better now.. I say all the time that if I could go back I wouldn’t deal with half the people I did. But Life is one big lesson. SOme people are good at comprehending it, others, aren’t so good…
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girl who you telling! If I could go back, I’d do stuff so different.. In my 26 yrs, I’ve done some ignant stuff. Like that time me and friends pickked up a female hitch hiker.. She rode with us to go see my bf and we dropped her off on the block and ended up getting passed around
God is good
that coulda ended badly
Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
^^ by that logic you can NEVER have sex again?????
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You can have sex with protection.
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YOu can get pregnant with protection.
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I prefer the pull out method, you surely can’t get pregnant doing that
jeniefrumdabloc says:
Chile you need to incomes to support a family two …. unless you a celeb or have a job making at least 50,000 a year if you stay in Atlanta. Food is high as hell ashid childcare too
Childcare is running neck and neck with my mortgage 
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I do and I still need two incomes
Morning Roses :wave:
RAZZLE is the
, not a BEDAZZLED tramp. 
says:
Two of the homies got pregnant WHILE ON BIRTH CONTROL.
causea birthcontrol work Ion care what folks say
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They missed a pill or suntin
Two of the homies got pregnant WHILE ON BIRTH CONTROL
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I see we are still in the same post from Sunday? I have no read the comments just checked in to say that I am listening to the Yesus album as I work and
I feel like I need to be baptised after listening to I Am A God. He ties in the fact that he is a “man of God” but the tone is still ominous and and dark to me. Me no likey. 
4 tumbs down for this album
ended up getting passed around<—-that's not ending badly, you guys didn't try to help her?
I prefer the pull out method, you surely can’t get pregnant doing that
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Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
…It’s just one me here and I dayumm sho need 2 incomes. I aint even a big spender and I need 2 incomes
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I knew that my other choices would not provide for me financially if the economy was poor. A nurse always has a job no matter what. Will you consider going back to school to learn the skills to get a better paying job?
^^ Nursing is great but, I can’t work with the fluids so I didn’t go that route. I’m always willing to go to school..I was just accepted to a graduate school, I’m starting for my doctor of chiropractic medicine in the Fall.
They missed a pill or suntin causea birthcontrol work Ion care what folks say
Stuff sure nuff 100
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I say Jesus loves me
Jenie, one was on depo the other on Nuvaring.
Bootcampgirl says:
Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
^^ by that logic you can NEVER have sex again?????
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You can have sex with protection.
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YOu can get pregnant with protection.
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I prefer the pull out method, you surely can’t get pregnant doing that
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Ya better off doing the ovulation method
Bootcampgirl says:
Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
^^ by that logic you can NEVER have sex again?????
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You can have sex with protection.
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YOu can get pregnant with protection.
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I prefer the pull out method, you surely can’t get pregnant doing that
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Ok Kirk
If you have a baby, your first thought should not be whether the man you’re pregnant BY can take care of you and the baby, it should be whether he can afford to, and is WILLING, to pull his weight as it relates to his responsibilities to that CHILD.
Having a baby by a man doesn’t automatically give you the right to be taken care of. If you get pregnant, your first thought should be, “Can I take care of this responsibility on my own?”
In a perfect world, a dude handles up, but in the REAL world, when you break up and he has other responsibilities, his obligation is to the kid, and his current household – not you!
So, you need to have the desire and the skill set to take care of you and the baby if he ends up in another place at some point.
You have to have a plan b, c, & d when you have a child.
I’m a single parent. I get child support. If that check DOESNT come. My baby (17) will eat and live the same lifestyle either way.
Jenie, one was on depo the other on Nuvaring.
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On depo really?
Jenie, one was on depo the other on Nuvaring
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I just can’t trust that ring ish. Just seem crazy
RAZZLE is the
, not a BEDAZZLED tramp. 
says:
Jenie, one was on depo the other on Nuvarin
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:stop: Ion believe in either one, I heard terrible things with both. I know I saw a light of females blow up on that shot
I’m starting for my doctor of chiropractic medicine in the Fall
good for you!
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*Slaps yew on the ass like OCHOCINCO*
@Caramel go for it girl!!!!
@San, i’m with you…if a chick get preggers on BC that mean she aint follow directions.. I chewed those nasty lil pills for 4 years, messed up my personality, body EVERYTHING! I aint get preggers though..aftermath: I can’t stand to swallow pills now… But, I aint get preggo on em.
ended up getting passed around<—-that's not ending badly, you guys didn't try to help her?
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I guess that what she wanted
She was a yt girl. She said that they were gonna take her home so we left her there with about 4 dude posted up on the block, per her request 
In a perfect world, a dude handles up, but in the REAL world, when you break up and he has other responsibilities, his obligation is to the kid, and his current household – not you!
Don’t make nobody cry today
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I prefer the pull out method, you surely can’t get pregnant doing that
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Who gave Kirk a log in
So, you need to have the desire and the skill set to take care of you and the baby if he ends up in another place at some point.
You have to have a plan b, c, & d when you have a child.
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Carrington I like your fonts
Chile my ac went out in the crib and I think I’m getting delirious
Jada Pinkett Smith believes cheating can improve a relationship. The 41-year-old actress, who has been married to ‘After Earth’ star Will Smith for 14 years, says that infidelity can help create greater understanding and respect between a couple if both partners are willing to put their egos aside but hinted she would never tolerate a habitual cheater.
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I’ve been on Depo (while I was in the desert because I kept forgetting to take my pills) and I stayed slim… like 135 for 5’9 1/2″.
I stopped shortly because the homie got pregnant.
I then started Nuva Ring and I loved it. No pregnancies no side effects no nothing. Now every now and then when Mr Razz would
we’d find it around his thang, but other than that I had no complaints. They took me off of that because it wasn’t helping with cysts and endometriosis. 
MissT take Rocky out of your gravi
Carrington says:
So, you need to have the desire and the skill set to take care of you and the baby if he ends up in another place at some point.
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Back in prehistoric days, before there were jobs or family courts, men pulled their weight. They went out and hunted for food to provide for their families. What changed? Welfare and women thinking they are equal to men.
Sex is recreation for me, probably will always be that way.
messed up my personality, body EVERYTHING!
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Better than a baby for life wasn’t it girl
GO ON NOW @Carrington… you know good and doggone well logic aint hittin it round these parts!!
submissives…I mean women in 2013 can only comprehend nurturing, raising and domestic duties and cave men…I mean men in 2013 can only comprehend providing, protecting and financially supporting their families
You have to have a plan b, c, & d when you have a child.
Always have to prepare for the unexpected 
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I know I saw a light of females blow up on that shot
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I have too! And on that ring stuff – everyone I know who got it wind up having to get it taken out for one reason or the other. One friend kept passing out, turned out it was a side-effect!
Miany says:
I was just accepted to a graduate school, I’m starting for my doctor of chiropractic medicine in the Fall.
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I then started Nuva Ring and I loved it. No pregnancies no side effects no nothing.
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I hate the pill so I got on the nuva ring. It makes my hair thin. But I will take the thin hair. I’m in no rush to have another baby.
My homegirl nuvaring got lost inside her and she became pregnant
Betamax82 says:
Jada Pinkett Smith believes cheating can improve a relationship. The 41-year-old actress, who has been married to ‘After Earth’ star Will Smith for 14 years, says that infidelity can help create greater understanding and respect between a couple if both partners are willing to put their egos aside but hinted she would never tolerate a habitual cheater
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So he IS fuggin Dwayne Martin…?
I’ve been on Depo (while I was in the desert because I kept forgetting to take my pills) and I stayed slim… like 135 for 5’9 1/2?.<—same story. I actually only started the Depo to gain weight, I was wearing 1's and 3's. I didn't actually start gaining weight until my mid 30's but that was from sedentary work…
congrats @ Miany!! That’s great! I know a chiropractor and she makes BANK! Good luck girl!
Betamax82 says:
My homegirl nuvaring got lost inside her and she became pregnant
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ION balee that… she sure it didn’t fall out in the toilet or come off during sex on his penis?
Sex is recreation for me, probably will always be that way.
whenever I do get some 
a bish been on desert island forever…
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Miany
Cubarican says:
I know I saw a light of females blow up on that shot
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I have too! And on that ring stuff – everyone I know who got it wind up having to get it taken out for one reason or the other. One friend kept passing out, turned out it was a side-effect!
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You sure it wasn’t Marena? Cause all you gotta do is squat and take it out. No need for a dr’s visit to have it taken out.. Marena, I heard was horrible. This one lady said that she started lactating and her kid was two.
Miany says:
^^ Nursing is great but, I can’t work with the fluids so I didn’t go that route. I’m always willing to go to school..I was just accepted to a graduate school, I’m starting for my doctor of chiropractic medicine in the Fall.
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Congrats!! You can be my chiropractor now!!
@San.. yup yup I take the aftermath of bc pill ova an expensive, permanent attachment to my ex anyday
@Bedazzled, Bootcamp…so yall said yall LOST WEIGHT on the shot??? Chilllee lucky cuz the shot got my homegirl lookin a big round mess
I gave up all birth control 2 yrs ago
I hate the synthetic hormones.. I was on ortho tri cyclen lo and LOVED it!
Til my insurance stopped covering the generic, then was on Loestrin 24 and gaved 45lbs but my hair was so think and healthy! But I got terrible painful ovarian cysts and uncontrollable nipple discharge (ewwww). I didn’t do the nuvaring b/c it made me sooo sick so I just said to hell with it… No babies yet
been off for full 2 years now! The pull out method does work 
RAZZLE is the
, not a BEDAZZLED tramp. 
says:
Betamax82 says:
My homegirl nuvaring got lost inside her and she became pregnant
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ION balee that… she sure it didn’t fall out in the toilet or come off during sex on his penis?
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Nope it didn’t fall out she’s a GYN so I think she knows what she’s talking about
Bootcampgirl says:
Sex is recreation for me, probably will always be that way.
desert island
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whenever I do get some a bish been on desert island forever…
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I shouldn’t laugh because I’ve only been getting some ever 3-5 months
Thanks Jenie
@Goat (looks round for Diva) 
You qualify for private rub downs…you know, for practice and all
Sandra Rose says
Back in prehistoric days, before there were jobs or family courts, men pulled their weight. They went out and hunted for food to provide for their families. What changed? Welfare and women thinking they are equal to men.
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Back in the 60’s, if your wife didn’t cook dinner to your specifications you got to whip her a$$ – what changed? Women’s rights.
Back in the early 60’s, a white man could spit in my face – what changed? Civil rights
So, you can’t have it both ways, you want equal rights. Same pay. Same treatment… Until you decide you don’t? Until its no longer convenient?
IJS
:wave: HELLLO ROSES;where’s SANDriTa down SOuth at the HEAT PARADE??
Miany says:
Thanks Jenie @Goat (looks round for Diva) You qualify for private rub downs…you know, for practice and all
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Fcuk Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Miany, no I didn’t lose weight, I just didn’t gain weight because of it. My sister on the other hand
that’s just like saying you can tell if a girl has a vd by using ear wax….
@Caramel, no shade, but you sound just like one of my cadets
Luvn
The pull out method does work
girrrrl
Bootcampgirl says:
Sex is recreation for me, probably will always be that way.
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whenever I do get some a bish been on desert island forever…
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desert island
I shouldn’t laugh because I’ve only been getting some ever 3-5 months
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You have me beat because I ain’t had none since Dec of last year…
@Bedazzled, Bootcamp…so yall said yall LOST WEIGHT on the shot??? Chilllee lucky cuz the shot got my homegirl lookin a big round mess
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No I was already slim and didn’t gain weight. Some girls I worked with gave me the side eye cause they were bigger than I was.
@Beta Oh. well it jsut got stuck up there then
with the way our uterus is shaped there is no exit unless her’s is huge.
GM Roses!
<—scarf that says RIP to the wing walker & pilot
Hey Luvn/Fay
273 luVn_liFe… says:
HELLLO ROSES;where’s SANDriTa down SOuth at the HEAT PARADE??
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She probably ill. she say she’s sick.
I keep telling her this is not the Stone Age maybe it sounds better coming from a man
Morning Luv Bug :wave:
Heyyy Boot!
how dat sexiness in yo gravi tho?
Hey Fay Luvn- Sandra say she sick, so her post will be slow. She said we are free to browse the internet too and thanks for visiting.
Fay Fay
So Kendrick Lamar was in Dover for Firefly and I missed him..I am mad about that. That was supposed to be a 3-day rock festival…
Fayla
how dat sexiness in yo gravi tho?
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i’on even know but, I sure would like him to come and take me off desert island
ABOUT THIS PARADE……Ion see how/why this is a parade. All I see is an open bus with the players & cameras on it.. no floats? no decorations? no colors? no nice banners? I say this a cheap imitation of a parade and they need to stop the fuggery and put my view back on… then again, I aint everybody
Meanwhile, in Justin Beiber’s ass
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like saying you can tell if a girl has a vd by using ear wax….
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like saying you can tell if a girl has a vd by using ear wax….
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Yes, I hear all kinds of shat from they asses..
In a quiet, even delivery, John Guy, a member of the prosecution team, opened the trial with a narrative portraying Mr. Martin as the unsuspecting victim of a man who had wanted to be a police officer and who had profiled him as suspicious and murdered him in cold blood.
The basic question for the jury is: Did Mr. Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, murder Mr. Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old, or did he shoot in self-defense?
Prosecutors portrayed Mr. Zimmerman, 29, as reckless, a man with a vigilante streak and a concealed weapon. Defense lawyers will paint their client, a volunteer neighborhood watch organizer in his condominium community, as a dutiful citizen on high alert after a string of burglaries and as the kind of man anyone would want as a neighbor.
Caramel when is the wedding?
In a key ruling on Saturday, Judge Nelson barred the testimony of the state’s two audio experts, one of whom said a voice shouting for help during the altercation was most likely Mr. Martin’s; the other concluded that it was not Mr. Zimmerman’s. The muffled cries could be heard on phone calls that neighbors made to 911.
The judge said the science supporting the two experts’ analyses was not as widely accepted as the more established methods relied on by defense witnesses. The testimony would have been a boon to the state because it would have weakened Mr. Zimmerman’s self-defense case.
gave up all birth control 2 yrs ago I hate the synthetic hormones.. I was on ortho tri cyclen lo and LOVED it!
) Ion know if they still offer the coupon. Just go on and try get back on it cuz it’s gone be a day he forget to pull out in time. Unless u wanna bambino right now, u needa get to pill poppin
^^ ORTHO TRI CYCLEN LO aint half bad. I used to get the coupon from their website (every month
So RT is catching flack for his Blurred Lines song…
The basic story, by now, is familiar. Mr. Zimmerman was in his car at Retreat at Twin Lakes, his gated community, when he spotted Mr. Martin walking with his hoodie up. Mr. Zimmerman became suspicious. He called the police nonemergency line, as he had done numerous times before to report things like a stray dog and an open garage door.
“This guy looks like he’s up to no good,” he told the dispatcher. The dispatcher asked him about the youth’s exact whereabouts. Mr. Zimmerman got out of his car and followed in Mr. Martin’s general direction. The dispatcher said it was not necessary — “we don’t need you to do that” — and Mr. Zimmerman said, “O.K.”
Prosecutors will argue that Mr. Zimmerman disobeyed the dispatcher and deliberately pursued Mr. Martin, provoking a confrontation. The defense will argue that Mr. Zimmerman was headed back to his car when Mr. Martin accosted him, threw him to the ground and beat him. Neighbors heard cries for help but saw next to nothing in the darkness.
In part because there were no witnesses and Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries support his account, the prosecutors face a much higher legal hurdle than defense lawyers do.
Sandra you hung up somewhere eating glazed doughnuts? Chaz Bono’s trial done started and you MIA overloading on Krispy Kreme’s.
*poof*
RAZZLE is the
, not a BEDAZZLED tramp. 
says:
Hey Fay Luvn- Sandra say she sick, so her post will be slow. She said we are free to browse the internet too and thanks for visiting.
well i hope her is feeling better ASAPtually!
<—w aunt tea
#woo-woo-woo
sup Razz?
@ Miany, they had a tacky parade like that last year.
Someplace boo’d up with Luda blasting…
I wanna …
From ya from ya head to ya toes….
And we in turn don’t get nothing but a leftover non-news Sunday post in return.
There you go
Was worried about you. I think we missed you 
RAZZLE says:
The defense will argue that Mr. Zimmerman was headed back to his car when Mr. Martin accosted him, threw him to the ground and beat him. Neighbors heard cries for help but saw next to nothing in the darkness.
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I’m not wasting my time reporting on this bogus trial. Trayvon Martin will not get justice in Florida.