Last night, the ambitious drama/musical ‘Empire’ debuted on FOX. In one of the flashback scenes, Lucious Lyon (played by Terrence Howard) beats his 6-year-old son for wearing his mother’s feminine things. The flashback was based on ‘Empire’ writer and director Lee Daniels’ emotionally troubled childhood.
In an interview with former CNN host Larry King last year, Daniels explained how his police officer father beat him and dumped in a garbage can after he wore his mother’s shoes and wobbled into the room where his father was playing cards with his cop buddies.
Daniels said the beatings had no affect on him. He said he came downstairs the next Sunday wearing his mother’s shoes and carrying her purse.
Daniels was 6 years old — and by that time, the small window for successfully navigating through his psychosexual development stage had already passed.
Ages 2-6 is the crucial psychosexual developmental stage where boys begin to focus on their genitals and seek to identify with the same-sex parent. In the absence of a healthy male role model some boys will being to form an unhealthy attachment to their dominant/aggressive mother’s feminine things as a way to connect with her emotionally and gain her acceptance.
If the dominant mother (or weak father) rejects the child’s behavior, the boy will not navigate successfully through this stage of psychosexual development (Oedipus Complex).
Be aware that not all boys who covet their mother’s shoes will grow up to be cross dressers or gay.
What did you think of ‘Empire’?
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I MUST SAY I ENJOYED IT….ALTHOUGH THEY COULD HAVE LEFT THE GUY KISSING PART OUT JS MY SON PEEKED UP I HURRIED UP AND FAST FORWARDDDDDDDD THAT THANG LOL…BUT I’LL KEEP WATCHING
The show was ok ill keep watching to see how it turns out (and because I don’t have cable and I cant really watch power).
If the dominant mother (or weak father) rejects the child’s behavior, the boy will not navigate successfully through this stage of psychosexual development (Oedipus Complex).
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Very interesting
I loved Empire. It’s very sad his father treated him that way. That’s where homophobia will take you.
So was members of Hi Five
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Well Tony died while sniffing AC fumes behind an apartment complex. Tragic
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Hi five without Tony thompson, how dreadful
And I couldn’t stand the fact that they used Barack Obama name at the beginning of the show (I don’t know why it irked me but it did).
And I couldn’t stand the fact that they used Barack Obama name at the beginning of the show (I don’t know why it irked me but it did)
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I didn’t like that part either. As if these entertainers aren’t dying to be around the president.
I like it! I’m just glad that there has been more scripted shows than reality shows on lately.
SummerBaby says:
If the dominant mother (or weak father) rejects the child’s behavior, the boy will not navigate successfully through this stage of psychosexual development (Oedipus Complex).
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Very interesting
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I agree…hmmmmmmmmm
I wonder how the ratings were like?
I enjoyed the show for the most part. I will tune in next week and see where it goes.. Just one request. Please keep that blonde wig off of Gabby
I didn’t watch it. For some reason I like shows with universal appeal–like Friends, Breaking Bad, Living Single, the American Horror Story anthrology…
I saw some of it. It was pretty good. For all the shade that Terrence Howard gets… dude can act mayne.
I didn’t watch it. For some reason I like shows with universal appeal–like Friends, Breaking Bad, Living Single, the American Horror Story anthrology…
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Do you really think Friends and Living Single have universal appeal?
I heard Empire was good…. but for some reason I’m not interested
could be I’m watching way to many other shows
I didn’t watch it. For some reason I like shows with universal appeal–like Friends, Breaking Bad, Living Single, the American Horror Story anthrology…
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Friends has never had universal appeal for me
I’m hooked on this show. I got a for real for real problem. I keep watching the episode over and over. I have a fag hag crush on Jamal. Is Jussie Smollett gay with his cute self?
Anyway, how Cookie get out of jail? You see they left that question hanging. How Bunkie gonna pull a gun on a killer and not pull the trigger? He deserved to die for that alone.
inter_loop says:
I didn’t watch it. For some reason I like shows with universal appeal–like Friends, Breaking Bad, Living Single, the American Horror Story anthrology…
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Yeah I like shows with Universal Appeal too…. the writing seems to be better
Living Single wasn’t that universal though 
@Bird
I was on his IG last night trying to figure our that myself
Do you really think Friends and Living Single have universal appeal?
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How universal is Friends with only 2 black people appearances in New York!!
I didnt watch. I may catch up with it this weekend.
the American Horror Story anthrology…
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Buuutttt this is my twisted show!!!!!!
I watched. The verdict is still out. I need another episode tho. But I truly do enjoy Terrence and Tarji as actors. And Miss Sandy your tweets were funny.
Jay3088 says:
And I couldn’t stand the fact that they used Barack Obama name at the beginning of the show (I don’t know why it irked me but it did).
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It happens. His people call their people and they arrange to get together. The President has spent time with Jay-Z and Beyonce on serveral occasions. I’m sure it is not always Jay and B requesting the meeting. Sometimes he might invite them and they are too busy to attend.
I liked it but I caught bits and pieces.
I want Blackish to survive so I gave that my loyalty. It was funny. I’ll probably catch this on demand tho
But when Terrance tried to Oscar the Grouch his own seen tho
Friends is still my show. So glad they put it on Netflix.
But when Terrance tried to Oscar the Grouch his own seen tho
by Gigi26 on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:43 am
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Hair Lova Formerly Known As Dark Ceaser says:
Friends is still my show. So glad they put it on Netflix.
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I love Will and Grace
I’m here for Naomi Campbell taking that young dyck tho
Show em how its done!!
How universal is Friends with only 2 black people appearances in New York!!
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Right! That show is as white as white can be.
inter_loop says:
I didn’t watch it. For some reason I like shows with universal appeal–like Friends, Breaking Bad, Living Single, the American Horror Story anthrology…
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They say this is the “continuation” of “Hussle and Flow.”
Terrence’s perm is Turble.
The show was pretty good, but I wasn’t feeling the gay scene. Just like I wasn’t feeling the gay scenes in How to Get Away With Murder. Even if you say the people are gay, do they really have to kiss on camera? It’s disturbing and dear I say….disgusting (male or female).
<<<<<<<<<<<< Has never watched an episode of Friends
Buuutttt this is my twisted show!!!!!!
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I cant watch this season with that creepy clown.
*Kah* Namaste! Peace! Blessing! One Love! says:
Terrence’s perm is Turble.
The show was pretty good, but I wasn’t feeling the gay scene. Just like I wasn’t feeling the gay scenes in How to Get Away With Murder. Even if you say the people are gay, do they really have to kiss on camera? It’s disturbing and dear I say….disgusting (male or female).
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They had all of that in there
I watched what I could my mama decided to bring her arse over here right in the middle of the show
couldn’t hear over her playing with the kids
Im torn between this and Blackish. If this does reruns Friday nights or something I will stick with Blackish on Wednesday.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
They say this is the “continuation” of “Hussle and Flow.”
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I can believe it
SummerBaby says:
<<<<<<<<<<<< Has never watched an episode of Friends
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Me neiver.
SummerBaby says:
<<<<<<<<<<<< Has never watched an episode of Friends
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I never really liked Friends
I love Will and Grace
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:45 am
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I like Darma and Greg
And here we go
I will give it a chance on demand this weekend. It’s not a “reality” show so I’m ok with that.
jeniefrumdabloc says:
*Kah* Namaste! Peace! Blessing! One Love! says:
Terrence’s perm is Turble.
The show was pretty good, but I wasn’t feeling the gay scene. Just like I wasn’t feeling the gay scenes in How to Get Away With Murder. Even if you say the people are gay, do they really have to kiss on camera? It’s disturbing and dear I say….disgusting (male or female).
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I agree
For all the shade that Terrence Howard gets… dude can act mayne
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Questionable
I haven’t watched yet. But if Baby Wipes Howard is talking in squeaky voice and saying mayne every five seconds I won’t be able to stand it. I want to support Taraji badly
By that I mean good character and story writing—either of the shows I named you could put any good actor of any race into either role (albeit you’ll still have to cast correctly) and the show would still work. But a lot of our black-driven sitcoms and dramas aren’t universally appealing. Everything about our creativity is narrowly scooped, and subsequently weakens our power, reach, and profitability.
They say this is the “continuation” of “Hussle and Flow.”
by Man, I just don’t care™ on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:47 am
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That’s what it felt like. DJ ole soft arse.
@ jeniefrumdabloc
Yes, and it was very distasteful. It seems that all new shows have to have an interracial relationship and a gay person in it.
inter_loop says:
By that I mean good character and story writing—either of the shows I named you could put any good actor of any race into either role (albeit you’ll still have to cast correctly) and the show would still work. But a lot of our black-driven sitcoms and dramas aren’t universally appealing. Everything about our creativity is narrowly scooped, and subsequently weakens our power, reach, and profitability.
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I get what your saying
I watched one epi of Friends. Jenn Aniston was pregnant by the tall skinny dude but she was living with the goofy guy who had a crush on her.
dumb. never watched it again.
even tho I loved that skinny bird face girl from Romy & Michelle.
Terrence’s perm is Turble.
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Yes lord. Happy to see it will be cut off. Why he do doing his hair like tho
Friends, Dharma & Greg, Frasier all my ISH!
Daniels said the beatings had no affect on him. He said he came downstairs the next Sunday wearing his mother’s shoes and carrying her purse.
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Lee said he will not be delivert. He will curr a purse. He likes menz,menz,menz damnit.
@MISSY J
Mayne… Terrence Howard can act bruh! Come on now. Who you got over him?
Everything about our creativity is narrowly scooped, and subsequently weakens our power, reach, and profitability.
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I never got friends. Thought it was the corniest chit but it’s not for my demographic so…
Hair Lova Formerly Known As Dark Ceaser says:
They say this is the “continuation” of “Hussle and Flow.”
by Man, I just don’t care™ on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:47 am
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That’s what it felt like. DJ ole soft arse.
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That’s what I thought I was watching
I watched one epi of Friends. Jenn Aniston was pregnant by the tall skinny dude but she was living with the goofy guy who had a crush on her.
dumb. never watched it again.
even tho I loved that skinny bird face girl from Romy & Michelle.
by User Friendly on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:53 am
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Oh that’s when it started getting real stupid and going downhill.
But when Terrance tried to Oscar the Grouch his own seen
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At first I was like WTF you mean , then
MissHarlem says:
And here we go
I will give it a chance on demand this weekend. It’s not a “reality” show so I’m ok with that.
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it all goes back to homosexuality. EVERYTHANG
so anybody besides me see the commercial for Monsanto?
Friends and WaG were my chit.
There couldn’t have been any black folk on these shows and stay true.
What black person you know feeding Joey and putting up with Feebie loopy azz.
Who feeding, clothing and saving Jack!
Who not just gonna rob Karen drunk azz?!!?
*Kah* Namaste! Peace! Blessing! One Love! says:
@ jeniefrumdabloc
Yes, and it was very distasteful. It seems that all new shows have to have an interracial relationship and a gay person in it.
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True …. but aye unfortunately they want stop sticking it in there…. How to get away with murder was a bit much for me … but I stopped watching because I couldn’t keep up …. way too many flash back scenes… I know this makes the show… but not my cup of tea though
I’m watching a lot of shows anyways…. …I need to cut down on some of my shows.
Friends, Dharma & Greg, Frasier all my ISH!
by #missyJSays on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:53 am
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I watched the hell outta Frazier.
What’s so funny is some of those shows can appeal to anyone but ours just appeal to us. Smh
I’m just excited as all hell that there are finally more than 2 black faces at a time on television.
With the likes of Scandal, Empire, Power, Being Mary Jane, How to Get Away With Killin a B*tch – and a host of other friends and relatives… I’m there for black people being projected as something OTHER than what Mona Scott and Bad Girls club has done with images of black women in general.
Way to go, Hollywood! You’ve realized the worth of black actors – FINALLY – and you’re casting black people who actually ACT to do it. With the exception of Tyler Perry’s inability to cast TALENTED actors, MOST of Hollywood is getting it right.
Kah* Namaste! Peace! Blessing! One Love! says:
@ jeniefrumdabloc
Yes, and it was very distasteful. It seems that all new shows have to have an interracial relationship and a gay person in it.
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Now THATS universal appeal
Time to Waste says:
Friends and WaG were my chit.
There couldn’t have been any black folk on these shows and stay true.
What black person you know feeding Joey and putting up with Feebie loopy azz.
Who feeding, clothing and saving Jack!
Who not just gonna rob Karen drunk azz?!!?
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@ jeniefrumdabloc
Yes, and it was very distasteful. It seems that all new shows have to have an interracial relationship and a gay person in it.
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They trying to appeal to all and make no one feel left out I guess. We are from an era that this wasn’t normal, wasn’t in the forefront. Now they just busting it wide open
black shows = limited scope since it appeals to black ppl
white shows = broad audience because EVERYBODY is mandated to accept their version of entertainment
Friends, Dharma & Greg, Frasier all my ISH!
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Singing Smelly caaattt…smelly cat..What are they feeding you?
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat.. It’s not your fault!
Mayne… Terrence Howard can act bruh! Come on now. Who you got over him?
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Jesse Williams
Omar Epps
Dennis Haysbert
DB Woodside
Even Mario Van Peebles
Terrance Howard is the same guy in every role. That is not acting. It is one dimensional.
Time to Waste says:
Friends and WaG were my chit.
There couldn’t have been any black folk on these shows and stay true.
What black person you know feeding Joey and putting up with Feebie loopy azz.
Who feeding, clothing and saving Jack!
Who not just gonna rob Karen drunk azz?!!?
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by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 11:58 am
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I swear.. Who the phuck is gonna do a video and a song with cats, about cats? That smelly cat ish. Omg
User Friendly says:
black shows = limited scope since it appeals to black ppl
white shows = broad audience because EVERYBODY is mandated to accept their version of entertainment
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Truuuuuuu
Jennie!!
The drive by in the Prius 
Weed!!
I only did like two seasons past U-Turn though
Then it went to left and got to crazy!
Romeney was on that chit too
Hair Lova Formerly Known As Dark Ceaser says:
@ jeniefrumdabloc
Yes, and it was very distasteful. It seems that all new shows have to have an interracial relationship and a gay person in it.
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They trying to appeal to all and make no one feel left out I guess. We are from an era that this wasn’t normal, wasn’t in the forefront. Now they just busting it wide open
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For some reason these things don’t bother me on premium channels
but regular tv ….
guess I’m ole skool
Weeds was funnyyyyyy! Stopped watching after Romeny left and she had the baby.
Everything about our creativity is narrowly scooped, and subsequently weakens our power, reach, and profitability.
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I disagree! We don’t always support “our” shows & the shows made by “others” aren’t that creative to me because how many times has the movie Carrie been done?!
For some reason these things don’t bother me on premium channels
but regular tv ….
guess I’m ole skool
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:00 pm
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Trust me I agree with you
Time to Waste says:
Jennie!!
The drive by in the Prius 
Weed!!
I only did like two seasons past U-Turn though
Then it went to left and got to crazy!
Romeney was on that chit too
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Weeds is a good show
Last season was lack luster but still good though 
I watched this…EARLY this morning since I couldn’t due to sports last night. Another reason I was late.
I love Cookie.
I love the gay son.
True what somebody said (@MisUnderstood I think) said about why the black man who married to the yt woman is always the fuggin weakest link?
Sir Lucious put in his own work huh and popped a cap in ole boy?
Romy and Michelle is like one of my favorite movies!
I laugh everytime I watch it. I have to get the dvd somewhere!
USER no!!! I haven’t seen that commercial.
Give us free!!! Now I gotta do some work bc we still in here
Im scared to ask what smelly cat is
I know one dam thang. me and my fren almost got into it when she tried to make me watch some shyt called Gilbert girls
I couldn’t take it. all they did was talk. now I know all actors do is talk but this was something different and it was pure unadulterated torture. I was finna die.
Im about to have a seizure just thinking about it 
What black person you know feeding Joey and putting up with Feebie loopy azz.
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Friends and Living Single were the exact same show
Joey = Max
Phoebe = Synclaire
The only show that had me hooked from start to finish and brought it with the writing acting just everything…. was Breaking Bad
best show hands down…. from beginning to end…..
Deserved every single award 
Gilbert girls
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Gilmore Girls.. and that show is one of the greatest
MissHarlem says:
USER no!!! I haven’t seen that commercial.
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I think im part of a cult now just off of seeing it
its real family friendly. like eerily so. white ppl riding bikes and pushing swings and talking about how Monsanto loves the kids

Nah User I ain’t fawkin with no Gilbert Girls. I know what it is too, but not my speed.
For some reason these things don’t bother me on premium channels
but regular tv ….
guess I’m ole skool
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It irks on the reg for me…Stop shoving both agendas down my throat….Sooo in order for me to have power, success and happiness.. a chiseled white man is my way out??
Best shows ever:
The Wire
Sex and the City
Breaking Bad
This is not debateable
User Friendly says:
black shows = limited scope since it appeals to black ppl
white shows = broad audience because EVERYBODY is mandated to accept their version of entertainment
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I think everyone tends to have a desire to watch what they relate to. Black people tended to choose Martin over Seinfeld (which came on opposite Martin) because Martin did things that we related to and Elaine and Kramer, while still funny didn’t have the same connection to the black community.
When Myra was at Shenene’s shop and said, “Am I almost done? I got to get home to season my gizzards.” black folk giggled like a mf because we could relate to our mother’s or grandmother’s saying some $hit like that.
I think we also tended to watch the white shows because we didn’t have much recourse. When Darma & Greg were on TV, if we didn’t watch that we were stuck watching “Good Times” reruns, or some bullsheyit like “Family Matters” if we wanted to see black folk.
It’s just like at work when you start a new job. You don’t end up friends with, and going to lunch with black folk because you’re racist – you automatically seek out the black folk because you know you tend to have the most in common with them. It’s subtle and subconciously done.
You know the black folk you go to lunch with will be talking about Empire, or maybe Nene. You may discuss that Frankie Beverly is coming to town, etc.
That’s just the way it rolls.
The only show that had me hooked from start to finish and brought it with the writing acting just everything…. was Breaking Bad
best show hands down…. from beginning to end…..
Deserved every single award 
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Yassssssss
I agree its more prevalent now to whomever said new shows gotta have a gay in it or an interracial aspect, but hell some old shows had the same. If not a direct character, then an innuendo. Jack was pretending to be gay on “Three’s Company” and Tom and Helen Willis was zebra like according to George on “The Jefferson’s”
“Bosom Buddies” had men dressed as women the entire RUN of the show. Not new. Just more…out there.
Sex and the City
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I blame Carrie’s simp boyfriend for why ppl keep naming their baby Aiden.
For some reason these things don’t bother me on premium channels but regular tv …. guess I’m ole skool
because I love Shameless 
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Me too!
USER you will regret the second you asked about smelly cat. Stupideeeeessssssttttt chit known to man on tv. I was pissed I watch that scene to see what the fuss was about
dancerbee93 says:
For some reason these things don’t bother me on premium channels
but regular tv ….
guess I’m ole skool
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It irks on the reg for me…Stop shoving both agendas down my throat….Sooo in order for me to have power, success and happiness.. a chiseled white man is my way out??
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Yeah sometimes it be a bit too much …. I can even dig it on channels like TNT, AMC, channels like that … but the local channels….. wait … what Channel Empire come on
What’s so funny is some of those shows can appeal to anyone but ours just appeal to us. Smh
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Sadly I think a lot of us refuse to watch some of the shows because of it. Kind of like with standardized testing which had questions that minority groups couldn’t relate to which caused wrong answers and minorities to score lower.
Instead of branching out to what is unfamiliar we create a lot of entertainment purely based on what we know and then stop. How many movies/shows have big mama, ma’dear, madea type kwim?
Joey = Max
Phoebe = Synclaire
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Max was a lawyer – Sometimes Joey acted and Chandler paid for everything
I gots nothing for Synclaire!
You right !!
white shows = broad audience because EVERYBODY is mandated to accept their version of entertainment
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Thank you.
I give OUR shows the time of day because that’s how WE get more roles on PRIME TIME TELEVISION. I hope they move it to another time cuz I don’t want it to interfere with Blackish. I want them both to succeed.
Sex and the City
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I just started watching this show about a year & half ago. I was home & caught a marathon & I enjoyed it.
Instead of branching out to what is unfamiliar we create a lot of entertainment purely based on what we know and then stop. How many movies/shows have big mama, ma’dear, madea type kwim?
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I cant stand these type shows frfr
Best shows ever:
The Wire
Sex and the City
Breaking Bad
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I only watched ONE and then only when it was long gone off the air. SATC. I got it on DVD one weekend when there was still sucha thing as Blockbuster lol and watched the whole series. I have weird TV watching habits tho.
the black man from designing women was supposed to be gay. even in Revenge of the nerds the black dude was gay and Police Academy stayed doing some homo-erotic stuff but…….
black shows = limited scope since it appeals to black ppl
white shows = broad audience because EVERYBODY is mandated to accept their version of entertainment
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That’s the way that works. And we are special when we watch their shows
VDot says:
Best shows ever:
The Wire
Sex and the City
Breaking Bad
This is not debateable
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I tried to watch the Wire … I really did…. just didn’t do it for me…
Sex and the city still my shyt too
I really couldn’t get into True Detective either…
folks was raving about that show …
just didn’t do it for me….
Friends has never had universal appeal for me
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+1 @Summer they can really take that chit off re-runs if you ask me. Chit which no one did
I think everyone tends to have a desire to watch what they relate to. Black people tended to choose Martin over Seinfeld (which came on opposite Martin) because Martin did things that we related to and Elaine and Kramer, while still funny didn’t have the same connection to the black community.
When Myra was at Shenene’s shop and said, “Am I almost done? I got to get home to season my gizzards.” black folk giggled like a mf because we could relate to our mother’s or grandmother’s saying some $hit like that.
I think we also tended to watch the white shows because we didn’t have much recourse. When Darma & Greg were on TV, if we didn’t watch that we were stuck watching “Good Times” reruns, or some bullsheyit like “Family Matters” if we wanted to see black folk.
It’s just like at work when you start a new job. You don’t end up friends with, and going to lunch with black folk because you’re racist – you automatically seek out the black folk because you know you tend to have the most in common with them. It’s subtle and subconciously done.
You know the black folk you go to lunch with will be talking about Empire, or maybe Nene. You may discuss that Frankie Beverly is coming to town, etc.
That’s just the way it rolls.
by Carrington on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:07 pm
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This is true. We really don’t get that many shows for us. We just dont, but what we did get is a flooding of the others. And sometimes you are left wth no choice.
I think everyone tends to have a desire to watch what they relate to. Black people tended to choose Martin over Seinfeld (which came on opposite Martin) because Martin did things that we related to and Elaine and Kramer, while still funny didn’t have the same connection to the black community.
When Myra was at Shenene’s shop and said, “Am I almost done? I got to get home to season my gizzards.” black folk giggled like a mf because we could relate to our mother’s or grandmother’s saying some $hit like that.
I think we also tended to watch the white shows because we didn’t have much recourse. When Darma & Greg were on TV, if we didn’t watch that we were stuck watching “Good Times” reruns, or some bullsheyit like “Family Matters” if we wanted to see black folk.
It’s just like at work when you start a new job. You don’t end up friends with, and going to lunch with black folk because you’re racist – you automatically seek out the black folk because you know you tend to have the most in common with them. It’s subtle and subconciously done.
You know the black folk you go to lunch with will be talking about Empire, or maybe Nene. You may discuss that Frankie Beverly is coming to town, etc.
That’s just the way it rolls.
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But you don’t know what else or whom else you can relate to… until you try it. If you stay in the same bubble, how do you learn something new and then in turn relate to someone new.
We have to stop automatically seeking what is comfortable and familiar. How do you know what you do or don’t like if you don’t try it?
User Friendly says:
black shows = limited scope since it appeals to black ppl
white shows = broad audience because EVERYBODY is mandated to accept their version of entertainment
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I was thinking the same thing. We embrace their shat, but they don’t embrace ours to the point that we think that’s exceptable. F them and their TV shows.
I just started watching this show about a year & half ago. I was home & caught a marathon & I enjoyed it.
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I watched all of Seinfeld while I was on maternity leave (with my son). used to be cracking up. I stopped watching when Kramer went HAM in real life.
Friends has never had universal appeal for me
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+1 @Summer they can really take that chit off re-runs if you ask me. Chit which no one did
by SOTHERNGRL on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:12 pm
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Friends wasn’t even supposed to make it past the first few episodes. It was actually canceled but guess what? Those sprite protested. Actually protested and they had to bring it back.
gay ppl and characters have been around, whats new is the (social) media nitpicking of everything. more visibility.
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I AGREE. TOTALLY.
Folks get mad like I said about Sade being on drugs downstairs…well also get mad when I say half of Sesame Street is gay. Bert and Ernie are queer. So is the damn Bird. Oscar is suspect too. TUH.
But you don’t know what else or whom else you can relate to… until you try it. If you stay in the same bubble, how do you learn something new and then in turn relate to someone new.
We have to stop automatically seeking what is comfortable and familiar. How do you know what you do or don’t like if you don’t try it?
by #missyJSays on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:13 pm
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This is true also. That’s how I got into watching many shows. Nothing else on, so you get stuck and then you realize, hey I kinda like this. And that’s it. Like I watch The Goldbergs and I like it. Nothing was on so I went to Hulu and I decided to check it.
the black man from designing women was supposed to be gay. even in Revenge of the nerds the black dude was gay and Police Academy stayed doing some homo-erotic stuff
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I don’t recall the black man from Designing Women (used to love that show) or Jack Tripper kissing another man on camera like they are doing now.
That’s not true. The Cosby Show had that appeal in talking about, so did That’s So Raven. There are other shows, for example, In Living Color, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and stepping outside of scripted TV there’s Montell Williams and the phenomenon The Oprah Winfrey.
It boils down to content and story telling quality if you ask me.
Folks get mad like I said about Sade being on drugs downstairs…well also get mad when I say half of Sesame Street is gay. Bert and Ernie are queer. So is the damn Bird. Oscar is suspect too. TUH.
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The gay agenda has ALWAYS been there..Especially in cartoons..Impressionable age….
Max was a lawyer – Sometimes Joey acted and Chandler paid for everything
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Max was lawyer but what did she pay for? She was a constant freeloader. Even more than food… Remember when she took the box of clothes Regine had left for Goodwill and was wearing her old stuff?
Not every character was an exact carbon copy but the two shows were the same and tackled a lot of the same issues. Ex Ross and Rachel meant to be but could never work out until they accidentally had a baby together. Max and Kyle.
But you don’t know what else or whom else you can relate to… until you try it. If you stay in the same bubble, how do you learn something new and then in turn relate to someone new.
We have to stop automatically seeking what is comfortable and familiar. How do you know what you do or don’t like if you don’t try it?
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yup cuz porta reecan dyck feels exactly the same as black dyck
I don’t know why I thought adobo was gonna shoot out of it or something but I was so scared to even kiss papi chulo.
oh that’s not what you were talking about?
oh
Best shows ever:
The Wire
Sex and the City
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SatC is MY CHIT!
I own all the seasons and both movies.
It was funny and real and though unrealistic; Carrie ain’t make enough for that NY apt and Monolos; it was written well and relatable!
I like shows that have good writing and just flat out good
for instance Revenge is one of my favorites… I like it better than Scandal…. Walking Dead too …. I think people like what they like…. Orange is the new black to me wasn’t all that… but a lot of people love it…. 
I was thinking the same thing. We embrace their shat, but they don’t embrace ours to the point that we think that’s exceptable. F them and their TV shows.
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Right. I’m familiar with their shows and their people. Their humor as well. I just don’t LIKE it. I will watch stuff like Breaking Bad and American Horror story, but their sitcoms don’t appeal to me. They definitely don’t sit down and watch our shit.
*The Oprah Winfrey Show phenomenon.
(for the sake of clearity.)
yup cuz porta reecan dyck feels exactly the same as black dyck

I don’t know why I thought adobo was gonna shoot out of it or something but I was so scared to even kiss papi chulo.
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Like I watch The Goldbergs and I like it. Nothing was on so I went to Hulu and I decided to check it.
And the Middle
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I like that show too! And Modern Family
That’s not true. The Cosby Show had that appeal in talking about, so did That’s So Raven. There are other shows, for example, In Living Color, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and stepping outside of scripted TV there’s Montell Williams and the phenomenon The Oprah Winfrey.
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How long ago these shows aired? And it is about script and being able to capture your audiences attention for a good 20 minutes.
inter_loop says:
That’s not true. The Cosby Show had that appeal in talking about, so did That’s So Raven. There are other shows, for example, In Living Color, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and stepping outside of scripted TV there’s Montell Williams and the phenomenon The Oprah Winfrey.
It boils down to content and story telling quality if you ask me.
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Agreed
Who the phuck listed Sex and the City as one of the greatest shows ever????
Man.. they goin start issuing licenses to watch tv if people keep saying chit like that.
Terrance look like he wearing lip stick up there
gig I wanna watch the Middle but I gotta check it from the beginning
Shyt you like what you like bottom line, just like what you eat don’t make me shyt…
BUT. Don’t complain when there isn’t enough of US on TV cuz they put it out there..some people just don’t want to give it a chance
Terrance look like he wearing lip stick up there
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:20 pm
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He always look like that
Like I watch The Goldbergs and I like it. Nothing was on so I went to Hulu and I decided to check it.
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I love The Goldbergs, I found it the same way just browsing on Hulu and I also love The Middle.
A lot of family dynamic shows like Modern Family, Parenthood, Black-ish are universal. Families have favorites, under achievers, drama queens etc etc but people shy away but the characters don’t look like them.
yup cuz porta reecan dyck feels exactly the same as black dyck
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Well then
OScar aint
he a piece of damn weed mayne 
Shyt you like what you like bottom line, just like what you eat don’t make me shyt…

BUT. Don’t complain when there isn’t enough of US on TV cuz they put it out there..some people just don’t want to give it a chance
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Sex and the City was a good show for those women and gay men who read books and are into magazines and fashion.
I tried to watch the Wire … I really did…. just didn’t do it for me… ?
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The Wire took a few episodes for me to really get into it. And then it was on and popping
yup cuz porta reecan dyck feels exactly the same as black dyck
I don’t know why I thought adobo was gonna shoot out of it or something but I was so scared to even kiss papi chulo.
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why is you so stoopid
I think everyone tends to have a desire to watch what they relate to.
I didnt care enough to set no VCR
That is why I missed most of the shows being talked about up here. I couldnt tell you about no smelly cat or Aiden from SATC, but I can tell you about the Bulls beat the Knicks in 91-93 Eastern conf. finals. I have a TV dead zone from around the time “Who’s The Boss” went off the air damn near up to about 2004. :crying1: I watch sports. All of them except baseball and by the summer all “the shows” be on hiatus. 
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I relate to sports. Why I say I have strange show viewing habits. Up until the invention of DVR I missed ALOT of scripted shows. I would catch them here and there, but to say I watched it on a reg…
Modern Family, is such a good show.
It encompasses all aspects of family.
It is Funny and sweet and Kev Hart was on it
Folks get mad like I said about Sade being on drugs
her. Eventhough hubby say her music is suicide music. I feel about Sade how you feel about Mariah.
BIG UGLY LOUD TEARS. :crying1:
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Dont do her like that @Dub. I
I rather not be represented, then be represented half-a$$. I don’t want Jesse and Al just becuase King and X are out of commision.
gig I wanna watch the Middle but I gotta check it from the beginning
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use Popcorn Time
that’s the site Muslim Redeemed hipped me to
I don’t know why I thought adobo was gonna shoot out of it or something but I was so scared to even kiss papi chulo.
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Terrance look like he wearing lip stick up there
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He probably is chile. Ole pretty muthafawka
Who the phuck listed Sex and the City as one of the greatest shows ever????
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ME
Non debateable 
A lot of family dynamic shows like Modern Family, Parenthood, Black-ish are universal. Families have favorites, under achievers, drama queens etc etc but people shy away but the characters don’t look like them.
by #missyJSays on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:22 pm
I don’t care what you look like. If your a comedy and can make me laugh I’m good. If your a drama and you can keep me intrigued I’m good. Idgaf what you look like.
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I didn’t watch it cause I hate commercials so i’ll see it on demand and fast forward through the commercials – I don’t think I will like this as much as I like Power simply cause it’s on Fox…
Romie & Michelle is a classic…. I’m THE MARY AND YOU’RE THE RHODA!!!!!!!!!
use Popcorn Time
that’s the site Muslim Redeemed hipped me to
by #missyJSays on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:25 pm
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What’s that??
I can’t relate to living in the Hamptons
but baby that show have me like this
every Sunday….. Does anyone watch Resurrected ? I caught part of the last epi and it seems like it may be good
OMG PARENTHOOD IS MAH SHOW
Now that is quality TV. Negroes on the show (even though its an interracial relationship but she a real sista :yes:).
I’m kinda pissed i’m gonna miss it but that’s why I never watched HTGAWM cuz I put Parenthood first. Very very good show
I feel about Sade how you feel about Mariah.
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Oh chit then. In this case I sincerely apologize.
*Even tho I do not get mad when folks talk about Mimi and her dranking. The bish is truly a drunk azz hoe.
Sex and the City was a good show for those women and gay men who read books and are into magazines and fashion.
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Or young women, with college degrees, working and single who know they can provide for themselves and don’t need a man.
Those women were lawyers, art curator, writer and PR professional who worked hard, played hard and provided for themselves …And looked for love in the 2000s
SOTHERNGRL says:
Folks get mad like I said about Sade being on drugs
her.
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Dont do her like that @Dub. I
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Sade ole High azz calmed a sister down last night real talk while I was headed home…. Her greatest hits was playing
I fawks with Sade 
I can’t relate to living in the Hamptons
but baby that show have me like this
every Sunday….. Does anyone watch Resurrected ? I caught part of the last epi and it seems like it may be good
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:28 pm
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I love Revenge. Started watching that on Netflix too along with once upon a time. Those are my fav’s Ressurected is losing me. Idk. I watched the whole first season and the season season is losing me. Idk
Those women were lawyers, art curator, writer and PR professional who worked hard, played hard and provided for themselves …And looked for love in the 2000s
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Talk about it!!
I watch the show fro beginning to end at least once a year. Usually semi annually.
Fugg a “friends” I was so mad when girlfriend got the boot
Time to Waste says:
Sex and the City was a good show for those women and gay men who read books and are into magazines and fashion.
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Or young women, with college degrees, working and single who know they can provide for themselves and don’t need a man.
Those women were lawyers, art curator, writer and PR professional who worked hard, played hard and provided for themselves …And looked for love in the 2000s
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Love the show, love the movies too
but it ain’t for everybody … I wonder if they are coming out with a third movie 
Sade ole High azz calmed a sister down last night
******
After you were about to
that bytchbytch? 
@Gigi
This is Parenthood’s last season :crying1:
@Hair Lova
Google Popcorntime movie download.. it is an app for watching shows for free. Or Couch Tuner has all the TV shows too but I’m not sure if they have all the seasons
@V DOT
Who the phuck listed Sex and the City as one of the greatest shows ever????
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ME Non debateable

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See, that right there is why so few women are executives to put shows on the air.
Hair Lova Formerly Known As Dark Ceaser says:
I can’t relate to living in the Hamptons
but baby that show have me like this
every Sunday….. Does anyone watch Resurrected ? I caught part of the last epi and it seems like it may be good
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:28 pm
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I love Revenge. Started watching that on Netflix too along with once upon a time. Those are my fav’s Ressurected is losing me. Idk. I watched the whole first season and the season season is losing me. Idk
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Chile Netflix got me hooked on Once upon a time, Revenge, Walking Dead and Breaking Bad …. lawd …. I can’t miss Revenge … and the wardrobe on that there show
chile ….. my Gawd…. folks Talk about Kerry Washington swag … shid…. them broads in Revenge is serving ya hear 
I wonder if they are coming out with a third movie

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I need one!
I need Samantha to get chose
I loveee Sadé “There must have been an angel by my side. Something heavenly led me to you. Look at the sky. It’s the color of love. There must have been an angel by my side. Something heavenly came down from above. He led me to you”
Omg my favorite
San
I know Missy
WHYYYYY But I can respect them when they end it on a good solid note then let the show get real stupid 
They know when to pull the curtains down. You think Zeke is gonna die?
VDot says:
Sade ole High azz calmed a sister down last night
that bytchbytch?
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After you were about to
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Sade brought me home
Ya give me ya give me the sweetest taboo 
Those women were lawyers, art curator, writer and PR professional who worked hard, played hard and provided for themselves …And looked for love in the 2000s
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Carrie being a newspaper columnist and able to live in high ass NYC alone really was fiction tho. Newspaper writers dont make CHIT. Nationally. Even if you been doing it for years. But hey the story and the message was good and I believed in it too.
Did you watch the show Man?
my gut is telling me no….it wouldn’t really appeal to loud undercover women hater tho. 
What are your top 3?
Chile Netflix got me hooked on Once upon a time, Revenge, Walking Dead and Breaking Bad …. lawd …. I can’t miss Revenge … and the wardrobe on that there show
chile ….. my Gawd…. folks Talk about Kerry Washington swag … shid…. them broads in Revenge is serving ya hear 
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:35 pm
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OMG yes!! I do not miss Revenge. As bad as I be wanting to go to bed I just can’t make myself watch it on Hulu the next day. And yes they be dressed!
Time to Waste says:
I wonder if they are coming out with a third movie
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I need one!
I need Samantha to get chose
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I thought I read somewhere that they were going to do one but Samantha’s cancer was going to come back
I think they may have been a rumor
Carrie being a newspaper columnist and able to live in high ass NYC alone really was fiction tho. Newspaper writers dont make CHIT.
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I know Dub.
I said it in 119
She couldn’t live in NYC and buy Monolos on her salary, even though her apt was rent controlled
I have a confession. I have never seen The Wire. I didn’t have hbo at that time so I missed the whole thing.
OZ too. I know its about gay prison sex tho, right?
Thing I loved so much about SATC was it was nice to see the friendship the ladies had. And worked hard to maintain. And cherished.
They LOVED each other.
it wouldn’t really appeal to loud undercover women hater tho.
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*snickers
Sade ole High azz calmed a sister down last night
one of my faves
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Her song King of Sorrow
Samantha’s cancer was going to come back

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Oh God!
They bet not kill her off
Hair Lova Formerly Known As Dark Ceaser says:
Chile Netflix got me hooked on Once upon a time, Revenge, Walking Dead and Breaking Bad …. lawd …. I can’t miss Revenge … and the wardrobe on that there show
chile ….. my Gawd…. folks Talk about Kerry Washington swag … shid…. them broads in Revenge is serving ya hear 
by jeniefrumdabloc on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:35 pm
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OMG yes!! I do not miss Revenge. As bad as I be wanting to go to bed I just can’t make myself watch it on Hulu the next day. And yes they be dressed!
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That’s a must see …. I hate they bring it on at 10:00 but I tape and watch it…
that’s can’t miss …
I need Samantha to get chose ?
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Samantha doesn’t want to be chose
I mean she left fine azz Smith Jerrod. She tried her hardest, but the monogamous life isnt really for her 
Google Popcorntime movie download.. it is an app for watching shows for free. Or Couch Tuner has all the TV shows too but I’m not sure if they have all the seasons
by #missyJSays on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:34 pm
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Ima check it out. I know on my roku I downloaded popcorn kids and my youngest was killing me watching Rhe Bug Comfy Couch
San
I asked about you yestaday. You move? Put in notice? What they say?
My favorite series:
– Spartacus (its over)
– The Wire
– Nurse Jackie (season 1 is a classic)
– Walking Dead (only show on network television I’ll watch)
– Power (can’t wait till nexy season)
– House of Lies (Marty Kaan is a muthaflucka)
– Game of Thrones (WINTER IS COMING!!!!)
I have a confession. I have never seen The Wire.
See? Strange viewing habits.
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+1. And I can…but I dont want to. And the fact that David Simon (creator) is a former REPORTER seems like I would. But I never did.
I interviewed Jussie Smollet a few years back on my radio show…and I wanted to ask if he was gay so bad… but i don’t think he is.. and this is coming from a queen.. I liked the show … I’ll be back every Wednesday. Just like for How to get away with Murder.. the only 2 network shows on tv I watch.. everything else is ratchet tv.. down to south beach tow an hardcore pawn..
Thing I loved so much about SATC was it was nice to see the friendship the ladies had. And worked hard to maintain. And cherished.
They LOVED each other.

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I remember when Carrie said maybe they were each other Love of their life
So sweet!
They bet not kill her off
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She the oldest. She damn near 60. If they killed any of them off it would be her . IJS
Opinion
Nurse Jackie is my chit too.
Nothing like the last season finally and she got her sponsor committed to Rehab! With a big ole
They bet not kill her off
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She the oldest. She damn near 60. If they killed any of them off it would be her . IJS
by KDub on Jan 8, 2015 at 12:43 pm
I thought Samanatha was the oldest?
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*Even tho I do not get mad when folks talk about Mimi and her dranking. The bish is truly a drunk azz hoe.
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@Dub this is very true of you.
Samantha doesn’t want to be chose
I mean she left fine azz Smith Jerrod. She tried her hardest, but the monogamous life isnt really for her 

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I want her with Smith fine azz too!
She tried and she loved him and and he shaved his hair when she lost hers
I know it wasn’t enough or a reason to stick it out but if he moves to NY it it it
You know what I liked but they canceled it. Hawthorne. That was a good show
I remember when Carrie said maybe they were each other Love of their life
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And when Big said “Yall are the loves of Carrie’s LIFE”
Told yall when Dub9 was born, my ex-husband was like gone head and give the partner/spouse extra bed to THAT BISH standing over THERE >>>
nigga. Go to Subway and get us some sandwiches before you go home why dontcha? 
Imma go back to the HOUSE. And BFF was like
Thing I loved so much about SATC was it was nice to see the friendship the ladies had. And worked hard to maintain. And cherished. ? They LOVED each other.
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I thought Samanatha was the oldest?
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That is who we tambout. Said if a SATC Movie 3 come out they gonna give her cancer again/kill her off. I was like it makes sense.
They know when to pull the curtains down. You think Zeke is gonna die?
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Yep Gigi, I have a feeling that will be the final episode
I’m gonna mess around and watch SatC this weekend.
Again!!!
Mr. Time gonna be
And when Big said “Yall are the loves of Carrie’s LIFE” ?
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Ok ok I had to think for a minute. Is ain’t watch that show in a min. I was thinking Miranda for a sec, had to go in the memory box. I used to love that show, then after a while it went off and I just couldn’t do repeats for some strange reason. Maybe I watched it too much
– Game of Thrones (WINTER IS COMING!!!!)
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WINTER IS HERE @OPIE when is my show coming byke. I need my little person fix.
I have a confession. I have never seen The Wire.
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+1.
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+2 and HBO was running a Marathon over the holidays.
@ Bird I think cookie got out by making a deal… Looking at the previews for the next episodes…she working with someone..most likely to bring some (Terrance Howard) down…I seen a similar show like this (or movie) just can’t remember what…
the show was ok. I’ll watch again though. Yes, Jessie Smullett is gay for real. He was in a few gay movies actually. Who puts their kid in the trash can?
great show and good acting. will be watching next week.
oh no, my son is 3 and he put on my heels the other day, should i be worried? i do want grandbaby’s in the future