Nielsen TV ratings plunged overnight for Fox TV’s dreadful soap opera Empire.
Wednesday’s episode drew just 8.2 million viewers. That’s down 8 million viewers since Empire‘s season 2 premiere.
Following the 9/23 second season premiere (which was itself down from hour two of the season one finale), each “Empire” episode has suffered a week-over-week decline in the overnight households (and in adults 18-49 and total viewership). The declines have not, however, come close to eradicating the series’ standing as Wednesday’s top broadcast show. Source
In Wednesday’s episode, Andre (Trai Byers) gets baptized to wash away his sins. He is torn over his pastor’s suggestion that he ask his family to attend. “My family doesn’t go to church unless someone is in a casket,” Andre tells his pastor.
R&B singer/songwriter Ne-Yo makes a guest appearance in episode 5 as himself. Ne-Yo advises Jamal to take his boyfriend on tour with them.
And in yet another unnecessary scene, Jamal (Jussie Smollet) flies into a rage when he encounters his boyfriend being serviced by a gay photographer at a party.
Fire the writers and get a whole new staff quick.
,,,the source says it drew 12.183 million viewers, and when the final numbers are tallied will be greater than last weeks 12.223 million….I don’t watch the show, but luv at least quote the source right. Still lubs your Sandra Rose!
You misunderstood the ratings – the 8.2 is the overnight household rating (% of households with TVs who watched)
The episode did over 12M viewers, since more than 1 person per household can watch the show. It was actually up week-to-week.
Ne-Yo ….
Did he ever admitted being into men??
Still love his first album.
That is all.
No wait.. just by reading the weekly write-up, the show should be renamed “Gay Empire”
I’m all for a man with hair on his face. But if they don’t rid Andre of those 1969 porkchop sideburns, IDK what to do! THAT’S why those ratings are plunging, the creative director is showing out.
And in yet another unnecessary scene, Jamal (Jussie Smollet) flies into a rage when he encounters his boyfriend being serviced by a gay photographer at a party.
^^^^
Tole @ Nana ass this really did happen!
So folks can’t support the show knowing the time it will be scheduled?? Usually people run to see it so they won’t have to see comments and memes on social media…. is it too early?
Uneccessary heterosexual AND homosexual scenes are on network television. Whatever happened to…we’ll never mind. -_-
All I learned from this episode is ‘A mouth is a mouth’.
Agreed. That man is too fine for that foolishness
That’s the part I missed. So Screech was servicing ole boy huh?
I had more fun with the Roses than the show so disappointed this season.
dead bawahhhhhaaaaaa
Look like he walks around with a cigarette hanging off his lip talking about “And the jive turkey, with the smooth as silk velvet on the black hand side…..”
He was begging to suck some dack. The boy fren had the nerve to be side eyeing ole’ boy then he let him put his mouth on him. disgraceful *faints*
I hate yew ????
Haven’t seen one episode, but if this episode is exactly like Sandra’s write-up, it’s clear this show is made for black women, in the same vain as Tyler Perry films.
I want to see more of the back story about Lucious’ mom
They’ve succumbed to the sophomore jinx.
I don’t know. My husband enjoys it. Folks want too much.
If you DVR a show and watch it 20 times, isn’t that artificially inflating the numbers? That’s why the ratings are based on the initial viewers.
12 million people looking at your show is not hardly a jinx. Empire just has more competition than it did when it came out in January last year. It’s biggest competition at the time was Blackish.
Too many people love this show. It will be fine.
Way off topic:
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Three sought in reported robbery of Dover delivery driver
Dover Police say they have identified three suspects involved in the robbery of a pizza delivery person on Saturday night, after Officers located the suspect vehicle. According to the report, Officers attempted to stop the vehicle, but the driver fled on foot, leaving the vehicle on South Queen Street at Reed Street.
Using evidence found in that vehicle, Police say they are now looking for 25-year-old George Wilson, 18-year-old Isaiah Harber, and 18-year-old Donnell Cuffee, all of Dover. All are wanted on robbery, and conspiracy charges, with Cuffee facing additional resisting arrest and reckless driving charges.
On Saturday night around 9:55 PM, Police say a pizza delivery person was approached by three men on North State Street, following a drop-off. The men reportedly had a gun, and demanded money. They apparently fled with an undisclosed amount of cash.
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So Mr Harber is one of the boys who was involved in that stuff that happened to me at work…he just got out the beginning of this month….#karma
Harley I still be trying and I agree with you. But I’m gonna stick with it. HTGAWM is my fave now.
From the convo downstairs, who watches WWYD? Y’all see how many people DONT say anything when folks spiking drinks. Cold world.
Understandable. Can’t please everyone.
It is not on too early. Last season they were happy with the live, overnight numbers. Now they are adding the DVR views on top of the live numbers, which is deceptive.
Wow I have to check that out. That’s terrible.
some people are scared to be good Samaritans, sad but true…There was a guy just killed not to long ago for helping this woman who was getting whooped by some man…
The epic fall of an Empire SMDH !!
I said I would watch HTGAWM but I keep forgetting.
I’ve missed the past two weeks and was like ah well. I’ll get around to it. Maybe season 1 was too fast. I will say I’m sick of the Luscioys thinking he Jesus references. Him and Lee are hurt queens.
I’m one of those lost viewers.
so DVR recordings don’t count…
Auntie want ((drawing a blank on the gay-dude-writers name)) to lose so bad???. Auntie let that show live.
I watch every week and no show can keep the fire hot EVERY week. And I bet they still get more views than POWER.
I liked the episode but I’m confused as to where the hell the story is going. Jamal and his boogah boo were happy in their relationship and now they pullin out the dack for whoever can swallow? Lucious wants to spread some of his baby butter on lil Dej pumpernickel loaf? Hakeem still ain’t finish making Destina’s Child? It don’t take that damn long. Neyo don’t like menz? I’m just so lost
Spanish Harlem cheated on Jamal? Huh, too bad.
Power ain’t getting my views cause I’m cheap.
I didn’t follow first season because it’s so confusing but it’s good. I watch reviews to further help me unnastand lol.
Lee Daniels tryna make sure that people that don’t have cable can get a glimpse of HBO at 11… But on fox
Yes I can see that being deceptive if they recount DVR showings, but I am not really sure how they figure the DVR recordings in, if only the first view is counted, or if they count multiple views from the same TV>
? It ain’t that serious.
WATTS for lunch ????
there is a way around that…#hypothetically
Chipotle
it’s not…I had a $10 italian sub that was worth $2..
I know I’m just lazy. I wait till the end of the season.
Hypothetically I could get the channel for a day, watch all the episodes on demand and then turn it back off…. but these are theories.
what do you think it’s confusing?? them showing the ending first??
Unnecessary if I walk in and my man getting face from a woman I’m flying off the rails and that was Brent Spiner Data from Star Trek not Schreech
I just didn’t understand what was happening at first the foreshadowing then the now. But I’ve got it now.
Damn that ain’t right.
WATT
UNACCEPTABLE!
FRom where???
lol…I can do you one better..download MovieHD or Showbox…just another theory..
Mmmmmm
That about sums it up. I’m still gonna watch tho.
I think that’s what intrigues me about the show the most…
It’s deceptive because most people DVR the show while they are watching so they can skip the commercials. That’s why the 2 ratings are separate.
The lazy struggle.
This place I wanted to try called Pat’s..I’ve worked in the town for almost 11 years, the selections have burned me out…welp, I guess I got burned..
Your own source is saying that this week is on an uptick as empire enjoyed a week GAIN in adults 18-49 and naturally maintained its Wednesday #1 broadcast show.
I had to come out of lurking mode to commit. I did research to find who was the writers. Well they look non-black and Hispanic(reason for Latino singers).
Last night episode was pure downgrading to black people. First of all tha Hood is the safest place to be and getting robbed and kidnapped is rare where I come from. Imo!?
They could had provided the characters with bodyguards if they are as famous as Empire makes us to believe.
If so they could have written a better script by adding growth to the characters in which we are not seeing! Andre script was acceptable and written well,?
?Ah Chair is steal ah Chair
Even when there’s no one sitting there
?????
But ah house is not ah houseeeeee
Because you wonder how it’s gonna get to that pernt right.
Lee?
I’m about over all the over the top stuff,?Dora being serviced by the ugly artist was just to much. It seemed like it was all about Dora and it was boring until Hakeem got kidnapped ?
Get a life
I’m trying my best to hang in there.. this season it doesn’t have my eagerness to watch like last season…
(Seth Meyers voice)
Ya burnt! ???
I like Jimmy Johns Italian sub, a#8 I think ?
Exactly! I’m reading the source like its right here in black and white. WTF
Lol
Yeah last season I wouldn’t move that hour. I was late actually.
Show has gotten to become all over the place. Almost like they’re allowing interns to fill in while the writers are on vacation
It should not count. They never counted VHS or DVD recording back in the day. So why count DVR? Its too easy to manipulate the numbers.
THIS.
I be trying to figure out what people want…. To me the show hasn’t changed. It’s still the same schizophrenic show it was last season. It’s actually more calmer now. Folks always finding fault. Can’t never be happy.
Paul Ryan
That’s all Imma say Because if a woman had said or did what he’s planning to do—-that would’ve bean thee end of political career??
Too many unnecessary “fill up time” scenes, from Anikas twerk to Cookie as an ape
Last night’s “I can’t” moments:
1. The thirsty artist (not Neyo)
2. Precious striking the thirsty artist
3. Porsha and her mutt
4. The devil having flashbacks in the church house
5. Hakeem’s kidnapping was so predictable
Still watching tho…
Most shows WISH they had the ratings that Empire has…It just seems to me, there are people that just want,to tear down this show.?
One thing about many Black people is that many Blacks are swayed by “the power of suggestion”. There are people that have an agenda against the show, because they hate Lee Daniels,whom I also don’t care for because of his agenda…..
With all that said,I have liked every episode and last night’s episode was fiyah!!!
I actually find myself more excited to see AHS than Empire on Wednesdays. Last night episode was crazy. I lub me some Angela Bassett. She is pure sex whenever I see her walk on the screen
This^^^ If he is so famous why didn’t he have a body guard!! ?
#4 ?
Yes but all of that was from the 1st episode…The 4th episode aired last night….
Exxxaaacctlllyyy…especially after the Tiana situation and video threat…not to mention he’s a “Lion.” But of course they’ll rescue Hakeem with little to no effort…
C’mon Lee!
Sam’s here!!
Straight to the
both you and the spirit of Luther.
I hate the way luscious treats his kids
Yup! It’s a bit much.. It’s turning into Jamal show but the problem is Lucious & Andre are great actors their ” it” factor just shines brightly over shadowing Jamal’s…
On the show scandal.. We know that Cyrus is gay. The difference is that it’s not shoved down our throat, he have other things going on ( such as being a killer,critical thinker, Getting hit men to kill people, lying, being deceptive , great speaker) The viewing public knows he is gay, but the show doesn’t focus on that He has a lot more going on than Just that & people accept Cyrus because of it. Even that guy from the “wire” that whistled before he shot you up, rob you etc. people knew he gay but he had other things going on to distract from the fact he was & it wasn’t the main focus.
Jamal it seems all he has going on is boy action, music which is not that great, he not sexy, he don’t command the screen, he just there,,,
Unlike Terrance he commands the screen, Andre command the screen , Taj, Aubrey, the guy play the young son is good too. The rest of the supporting cast make the show watchable. Lee trying to make Jamal the ” star” thinking people will tune for him only, well! He is sadly mistaken Jamal is NOT enough to carry a show on his own.
I think it’s the new fad to exploit sex to the 10th power these days. Growing up, my parents never had to worry about a gay, straight, bi, etc flashing onscreen by surprise. I think there may have been clues leading up to a kiss scene at best but now, it’seems like here you go whether you’re ready or not.
I kinda feel bad for saying this…even though I tune in live every Wednesday because the way my cable package is set up….I cannot DVR it, but its becoming a clown show, and unrealistic writing…Ironically sort of like the new fake reality tv. Only thing appealing is the music, even when it is uncut, so I could miss a few Wednesdays. lastly, I am glad to see blacks back on TV, and forget it, as much as I like Cookie, this show has nothing on Power.
Jamal should be the one getting Baptized gay azz
First of all Andre’s pastor is the original Frank Gathers. He did the driveby in the first season. It’s good to see him back although I would have liked him as Frank this season way better than Chris.
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Below please see the headlines for this week’s ratings (in my work email voice)
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Ratings: Fox’s Empire Enjoys Its First Season 2 Uptick – TV Line
‘Empire’ stops its slide – TV By The Numbers
‘Empire’ Ratings Decline Ends – Deadline
Ratings: ‘Empire’ Back on the Rise – Variety
Ratings Update: FOX’s “Empire” Rises – Headline Planet
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Must I go on? I could. I had to stop somewhere. Empire had 12 million viewers this week.
You sho is petty.
Don’t they though?…The thing that get me, is that many that critique the show,don’t even watch the show.
Thanks Sandra ????????
right
The devil walked in and stood there waiting for them to acknowledge his greatness… But if he entered what does that say about…. Never mind!
I do believe that guy cookie had the gun aimed at ” when she said: no cops: he looked shocked… He will be instrumental in providing info or leading cookie to find Hakeem…
He will remember her not calling the cops!
The storyline with the photographer was unnecessary period. This has become a platform for Lee Daniels to showcase his gay desires and fantasies, and bring along for the ride gay Hollywood , those that are out ,the one’s that we know are gay, the ones with many rumors of being gay, and the highly suspect.
would that be big or skinny Luther..
Empire has a lot of competition with American Horror Story. That is where a good part of the audience went to. I have to admit I forgot Empire was on while watching American Horror Story. How do they measure ratings anyway? Seems it would be hard to do cause viewers have Hulu, TiVo, & DVR figuring to watch later. Do they include the ratings for that to?
The roses are the queens of #hypothetically
I agree with this.
I wondered what that added to the storyline also. All relationships can have insecurities or infidelities what was it trying to really tell us? Maybe it’ll add something next week.
Yep, I saw that too. She’s redeeming her street cred….was the theme of this episode, redemption? Hmmmmm
Boff of ’em
And that’s when the family will unite.
Power is more realistic because ….. Those who were or still attached to that life can relate… Fifty seem as if he is playing his real life street life.. All the actors on that show are good … I have my chips, dips juice etc.
Thank you?Being a member I hope I am making you proud?
Let’s just say that since I cut the cord, I have no need for cable or the need to go to the movie theater…#hypotheticallyofcourse
It’s good though. So is Survivor’s Remorse which also comes on Starz. Survivor’s Remorse has actually become my favorite show. My daughter used to watch for free online until we got Starz a couple months back. Try it out. What’s his name is super sessy. What dat nucca name il?
Hi Yoni– I thought it was just me being irrational, and hearing 70s music each time he would step into a scene.
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To show Jamal that Michelle a hoe.
“And in yet another unnecessary scene, Jamal (Jussie Smollet) flies into a rage when he encounters his boyfriend being serviced by a gay…”
This boy right here is Lee Daniels fantasy.
A friend of mine randomly saw a gay “act” on TV last night and immediately said, “they should be on Empire”.
Isn’t it funny how Jussie is all of a sudden having more camera time to sing on every act????
watching the ending of Season 2 on my way to and from work..
Allegedly, this is a fanstastic idea.
I thought so too. The thirsty artist hanging around is a little off to me…I’m sure like all of these characters, he has a hidden agenda somewhere. But it was very unnecessary to have him trolling around offering fellatio to whomever accepted.
I see you Sandino!!! Taraji be hooking up folks.
But it was stupid and know they are creating an episode on the stupideateat .so.ck of Not providing Label Artist with bodyguards!!
Yaassss I forgot about Sandino. Ironic, he’s coming to her rescue again!
the synopsis sounds like it might be interesting..Do they have that Boston accent??
I don’t go out on Saturday nights Power be on. If I do…I don’t leave til it go off. I can’t wait til Sunday to watch. It’s one of THOSE shows. My 20 yo pure be in house on Saturday nights…. Her homegirls too.
Errbody used to criticize my Hakeem’s acting. I have seen zero complaints this season about his acting. Do we all agree that he has improved by leaps and bounds?
A mouth ill a mouth
This^^^^
No. No, we don’t. Sike, I don’t know I haven’t seen this season. I didn’t think he was bad last season though…not his acting anyway. All things considered.
Only M. Chuck (the sister) bothers with the accent. She kills it though. It’s also nice that the ball player and his manager cousin are actually good guys. It may be unrealistic for an NBA player and his manager, both of whom are from the hood, but it’s really refreshing to see.
Nasty arse cuz he sho said it when Jamal turned him down
I was just about to write that, but the problem is Terrance is a STAR and it shines brightly without him even trying,Andre commands the screen too. ( just like the rest) Jamal doesn’t scream star to me & he is not enough to carry a show by himself… Hopefully next season lee will redirect and focus more on back story ( cookie time in prison, the children growing up etc.)
He has improved….
I just got hip..I love it..I love Ghost and Tommy..can’t stand them bitches though…Weren’t you the one into Boardwalk Empire?? Is it mob-esque??
Bout the same…not bad but not great either…
You talking about my Rocky??? I liked him when he was on Rock.
*jacked
Another church fire!
Founded in the early 1840s by Jesuits in a neighborhood that then mostly consisted of German immigrants, the Shrine of St. Joseph has a special place in the history of St. Louis and especially the Catholic Church there. It’s open to tours showcasing intricate artwork, statues and other details, and also boasts “the only authenticated miracle in the Midwest” — the recovery of German immigrant Ignatius Strecker from a monthslong illness after his prayers to (future saint) Peter Claver and a blessing at the church.
Not only that it’s just more crisp than Empire. It’s more luxe. That’s what happens when you take the cheap route and try to get people to believe the show is filmed in NYC when it’s actually filmed in Chicago. It doesn’t have the same feel. The fact that they are actually IN New York on Power changes the dynamics. That setting is like another character on set.
Also one show is on Starz and the other is on Fox. Can’t show no goodt sex scenes like they do on Power. Can’t cuss. Empire maybe should have went the cable route. Then Lee could be as gay as he wants… Lol
Chick Fil A?
i cant get into the acting of the shady lawyer.. whats his name “thirsty?”
Neyo played himself and told him to bring his boyfriend on tour! I wonder if that was from personal experience!??
Lucious going through some mommy issues right now. Be patient with my boy. Andre gone pray over him and he’ll be alright.
Yes. Me and few others here!?
It is 1920’s mob esque.
Loved that show!
Bubbles is that ninja!
lol- so true…so true, that was another factor. Lee would be happy as a sissy in boys town shing a linging all over hbo and stars!!! lolol too funny
Today, the church sits in the Columbus Square neighborhood — an area that, according to 2010 Census findings, is about 90% African-American. The parishioners at the Shrine of St. Joseph, however, are mostly white, according to CNN affiliates KMOV and KTVI.
I don’t for the life of me get why folks do this type of stuff..There are religions I don’t understand or believe in but I would never do any type of sacrilegious stuff…
OMG! I think it makes him look so manly. I ain’t never been attracted to poor Andre until this season.
I think he steals every scene he is in. Without Hakeem there is no show.
Woo
Woo
Woo
Woo Wooo
I luv Hakeem.
I agree!!! Well said!!!!
Yes if they can get back to the storyline. It was so awesome last season.
cookie time in prison
^^^^
Cookie dyke’n…?
You know he did
Im only here for Alex Rodriguez
Tasha has her moments but I cannot stand Angela.
LOL, I thought Neyo was going to come out and say “yeah, I brought my man on tour and I left him home too”, instead of talking bout his woman.
me too…hbo, showtime… i live, i live. i know all those shows like my hand…from the wire on down to sopranos. boardwalk empire was so good but then you turn to the nbcs and abcs and cbs and have cookie doing the most, its just terrible writing. and damn dramatic not making any sense. Empire should have stuck with their first platform in season one, but now making cookie a comic relief is the worst idea. i wouldn’t take her seriously. Tasha-power, most definitely.
he is dreamy…
YES
hate ang…she is just as manipulative as Tasha. but she is legally manipulative. i dont know whats worse!
I missed Empire last night so I am extra annoyed. I like the show. ALL of it. well…not so much all the gay stuff, but I can bypass that. I do enjoy this show though.
FX is the only network that can hang with the premium cable channel. FX been killing since Nip/Tuck. Nip/Tuck used to boderline be soft porn sometimes.
I’m at the episode where Angela had Tommy handcuffed to the bed post…
I can’t stand Tasha. She stuck in her small minded project superstar mentality.
Angela…I don’t care for her either really
With an extremely ugly dude no less.
We he said “I’ve done both” I held my breath for a moment… lol I thought he was finna break them closet chains chile
Let me go and find a recap. All Dubb gonna do is make shyt up if I ask her. lmao
I’m still waiting on those moments, I got three more epi’s to go…I just don’t like her
I found Boardwalk Empire by accident mid 1st season. My sister and BIL turned me on to it. Was at their house and caught an episode. Hooked.
This here is a failure.
epic
I hope you ate a fry for me.
he’s not gay on there, is he?
I already did one. Brb.
Wait, what did you have? I haven’t had lunch yet.
Me either. Like at all.
Tasha gets on my nerves. It’s like Natauri is nervous with scenes with Omari. There is no chemistry. Cause if that was me, I’d own the fuk outta that role. Maybe that’s intentional though
Angela ain’t scared of Ghost though. She hops on that dik like a pro. Like she missed out on her life without that dack.
That’s Holly
Empire:
Lucious and Cookie still playing Nah- Naanner Boo-Boo in re to EVERYTHING. So damn dumb. Cookie not a dyke. YET. Its coming tho.
Porsha showed back up with a bish in tow.
Adam Rodriguez got from out of the basement Tyler Perry had him in last black production he was on…into Taraji office on Empire.
Tiana got jacked by some bout it bishes in the lobby of the raggaley, ranned down record label.
These folks need Bubba from round the way as security. Just be running all around unsecure and shyt.
Crazy son got baptized in the name of Jesus. Lucious had a flashbyke of his cray azz mama washing away his sins in the bathtub yelling out “the POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS MEH”
Lucious showed his evil azz up at the church when Andre got his sins warshed away to bully him into keeping his mouth shut.
I am not sure WHAT the white wife is pregnant with or by WHOM but it aint by the seed of Andre. She should be happy that crazy is not being passed down.
Faggot son Jamal and his bf Michael-Michelle both got hit on by the same weirdo. “A mouth ill a mouth”. Out of the two…only Michelle got his dack sucked though.
Hakeem got his ass turned into milk box material at the end. Snatched his azz up like life snatched up Brandy and Naomi Campbell edges.
Precious Becky. I want to see more of her.
This EARLY recap of Empire fuggery brung to yall by me on tah’day.
you talking about the cop?
That’s what I don’t like about Tasha.
i am a Steve buschemi fan since sopranos, so when i saw his ugly mug on the set, i knew it was something i had to catch…the bonus was Michael williams…and the dude that plays gyp Rossetti. it was loosely based on truth so anything like that will always get me watching.
I know a buncha hoes they don’t add shyt either. *shrug*
Most young trap queens think like Tasha. Let her get to be around 32-33 she will change. Right now it’s all about keeping your street cred in tact.
lol say it again… Angela be walking around the streets of ny looking for the D…
she’s not that old already??
Not yet
Angela is Ghost childhood sweetheart, she’s the federal prosecutor. Holly is the Tommy’s gf who had him cuffed to the bed.
I disagree. Although I love me some Power (Tommy is my boy in my head), it is extremely unrealistic to me. Tommy is wreckless and would have been killed or imprisoned a long time ago in real life. That’s one of many unrealistic scenarios on the show for me.
????????????????
got it…does she do him dirty at the end??? #spoileralertdonttelltoomuch
holl? red headed chick… oh you have a ways to go til some REAL excitement!
Didn’t they say he was gay in real life or nah??? I could be mistaking…
yes, I meant Holly..isn’t there only two seasons??
Yup you too. Gwo’on now.
Dub I just can’t wit you…lol. Imma get fired. REAL HOT TEARS!
We for yrs were Atlantic City regulars. So to SEE it as a period show was awesome. They did awesome job with set, costumes. Excellent. I miss it.
Ok- especially when he said I always brougt mine ( paraphrase) and then he quickly said my lady. He looks so weird to me. Them lips and eyes scare me. They’re so big.
damn, I hope not..
OMG I just said that. So true.
He used to go with Melanie Fiona. All I know bout him.
Tasha has to already be in that age range. If she don’t get it by now she never will. Her momma tries to talk to her dumb azz but she don’t listen.
yes…they are renewed…i love it when a show is renewed before the season is even hot in the middle. they renewed for season 2 after the first pilot. i wouldn’t be surprised if empire last one more year. but for some reason, something happens and luck runs out on these premium cable shows and they get cancelled in the middle of nothing.
I don’t think she is that old. I think Ghost may be a few years older than her. Hence the more mental relationship he has with Angela. Angela has more substance. She’s educated. Probably more cultured. Tasha is a dressed up hood rat that made it out the hood. Two totally different women.
DEAD See…this is why I did not ask you *hug* I am dying!!!!!!!!
And so WHO is Andre’s wife (who is annoying as hell) knocked up by?
WHO kidnapped Hakeem?
Why Bubbles so damn shady EVERYTIME I see him on TV? AND he still looks low key dirty. Ugh.
Don’t worry. Stevie Wonder can see that dat nucca gotta die. He knows way to much for Lucious to have known him for like 2 weeks.
I want to go to Atlantic City *let me find a bus to ride*
I always like Hakeem’s acting – he is a cutie too.
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but tash is ride or die…she may be greedy but she is down for hers, and she is the one to fight for the cause.
He sho is extra but I can live with it. That’s the theme of the family.
Actually, I think it was the 5th episode.
Thats cookie’s new piece
Yea he got a lil bit of dog in him
Sad how men turn out to be…not what you expected. And especially after Michelle was talking all that shyt to Jamal about relationships and crap. Fugg him.
Andre wife pregnant by that man she fugged last season.
I think Boo Boo Kitty took Hakeem. Or Naomi Campbell.
Bubbles got his ass told by Andre to get the entire fawk out last night. Funny AF
What happen to Derek Luke’s character
Him and his ICDC law degree
Oh wow! Never knew that…
Me either. With his fine self!!!
First off how in hell Andre gonna run the ratchet side of Empire? He is NOT cut out for that…unless crazy Andre gonna be the one doing it.
#BringBackHakeem
Bubbles needs his ass beat and then a bath.
I’d rather be be Tasha than Cookie…. Lol
wow…ok but it is good to get a different perspective a show so well liked. i love me some Tommy but ghost did some uncompromising things as well, that could have got the same results…and with more to lose. he was just a little smarter to cover tracks and find some fall guys over dumb stuff he did. he is lucky Angela loves that d, and tash ride or die…those where the people who holds the key to both ghost and tommy dummy moves.
Michelle is apparently just trying to get put on and kept by whomever will have him. He a narcissist.
Yes you’re right,it was the 5th episode.Honestly I like all of the episodes…
right!!!
Please delete this message cause they could (allegedly) be used by someone I know and would rather not having to go to the movies and paying exorbitant amounts of money or getting killed just to watch a movie. Plus they done sued and pulled all the Movie2K sites of the internet. Thanks in advance.
He was in her video right? The one where he died?
He is Bipolar… maybe he will only take his meds er’other day.
He looked so uncomfortable with those strippers. Made me wonder if this is the start of his Gay story line.
He dogged her. All them songs on one of her albums bout HIM
I had high hopes for this show, but I haven’t watched in three weeks and I don’t plan to ever tune in, again.
Empire is nothing more than a heavily scripted version of a bad reality TV show.
Yeah.
True she loves hard. That’s one of the few redeeming qualities about her character.
Shut up….4 am…. Damn Alex lol
That sh1t is satanic. I don’t care who writes and produces it. Everything is not about black hate.
They were together 3-4 years.
Melanie had me ready to FUGG my SO at the time up. I was all bipolar sad one minute and mad as hell the next.
I’m a jersey girl, so i get excited when i see those rep…sopranos etc. i am in Baltimore now, and trust and believe, do not mention wire here. or 12’o’clock boys, they hate shows repping true bmore-isms… lol
I don’t think he is gay, he is just….corny in that way. Like ok, he is not going to the fish fry to drink 4Locos and Straw-bur-ritas and get wallies from girls. No tossing money at strippers. He likes stuff like the Opera…plays (not Madea). He don’t roll up and chill.
Never seen the show. Am I missing anything?
FYI
At this very moment the Federal Communications Commission is voting to cap the costs of predatory prison phone calls, making all calls from prisons and detention centers across the country more affordable for families. Today’s vote is a major victory for Black families and communities, who are already coping with disproportionate policing and over-incarceration, and who have for too long been seen as a billion dollar cash cow by prison phone companies. You made your voice heard on this issue, and the FCC showed that they were listening.
Tune in now to watch this historic moment live!
#PhoneJustice
For over a decade advocates have been leading a long and arduous fight to rein in the prison phone industry’s excesses. For too long families have had to make the choice between communicating with an incarcerated loved one or being able to put food on the table. Prison phone companies like Global Tel Link have made billions and billions of dollars off the backs of a literally captive audience, charging unconscionable prices with no correlation to the actual cost of services.
In 2013, 25,000 Color Of Change members called on the FCC to end predatory prison phone prices for people calling across state boundaries. And earlier this month, we hand delivered 65,000 signatures from all of you to the FCC urging them to clamp down on rates for in-state calls.1
Now, under the unwavering leadership of Commissioner Mignon Clyburn alongside Chairman Tom Wheeler and Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel, the FCC is poised to fix what Commissioner Clyburn has rightly called “the clearest, most egregious case of market failure ever.”2
Join activists from around the country in watching this historic vote right now.
You can also follow the #phonejustice to join the conversation online.
Before today, the nearly 3 million children who have a parent in prison faced prohibitive costs to maintaining family contact for the months or years spent apart. Price gouging by the prison phone industry has had a particularly profound effect on Black children, as one out of nine have an incarcerated parent. Keeping up regular family contact is not only key to supporting our loved ones while they are incarcerated, but it also plays a critical role in reducing recidivism and assisting with successful reintegration post-release.
Today’s victory is a testament to work of countless impacted families as well as the Prison Phone Justice coalition, of which we’re proud to be a member.3 It shows what happens when everyday people band together to make our voices heard. So to celebrate, help us make some major noise on social media this morning by joining our thunderclap, and showing appreciation to the FCC for doing the right thing for families.
Peace,
— Brandi, Rashad, Arisha, Brittaney, Evan and the rest of the ColorOfChange team.
References
1. “Tell the FCC: Keep families connected. End predatory prison phone rates,” ColorOfChange
http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/endprisonphonerates/?t=5&akid=4926.1730149.B-zKoA
2. “FCC Moves To Cut High Cost Of Prisoners’ Calls,” NPR, 10-21-2015
http://act.colorofchange.org/go/5430?t=7&akid=4926.1730149.B-zKoA
3. Campaign for Prison Phone Justice
http://act.colorofchange.org/go/5432?t=10&akid=4926.1730149.B-zKoA>
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Chile. They used to be every where here. I ain’t seen no ads or nothing for them. Place called Travel Mikes pure had a flight package we used to go on too. And Bobbitt Tours.
They sure do. Be mad as hell….because the shyt is true. Walk about three, four blocks from the inner harbor…shyt looks like a crack town. SO sad.
Nope.
I forgot to tell you I am going next month.
My BIL from Jersey too. So there you go. Won’t no way he was missing Boardwalk Empire lmaoooo.
That Wrong Side of a Love Song? Goodness
say word… i walk from work near the jects…be madd scared to park my car between pratt and central and they be out chere…as they say…looking like mm hmm…lol
Damn.?
I guess we gone have to see whether his square gone turn into a circle. lol
You have to find out for yourself….No one can tell YOU,what you may like or dislike.
Many here that hate on Empire,have never watched the show…..
YES!!! Man please. I got to Morgan State and could not believe it. I called home, like “Mommy the whole city is the damn projects” lol. Had the time of my life.
So that means it won’t cost you as much to have phone sex with your prison boo anymore huh?
BIL birthday.
That album and Mel are EVERYTHING. Her and Chrisette don’t get enough props. Epiphany album by Chris my SHAT
I’m probably the one of few who have not watched the show and ain’t said nothing about it…The rest have watched since season one…so I guess they have an opinion too..
We are <<<>>> Love love Chrisettes crazy ass.
agreed. I have never seen Power, but from what my family says, it’s a different show from Empire. They like both. Me personally, I have no real issues with Empire. I support it.
lololol… well i live in the county right now, and as much as i love jersey…i wont go back to live unless dire…christie cream got taxes on lock up there and since my parents are still there, he has my moms wanting to trip him down a flight of steps. bmore county is a home…but JERSEY is HOME…
FUGGIN DEAD
New post
It’s so ironic that you posted this. I just got a call from a guy I know that’s locked up. He called with a phone card.
If you’re in jail, you shouldn’t be allowed to talk on the phone, watch TV, eat dessert, play on the internet or anything else considered a luxury.
LOL but frfr WHEN EYE did partake in such nonsense THEY used to send me money TUH AND HUT
#nooffense
Excuse me yall. My IG just alerted me that someone just tagged me in something. and also added others. WHO has the IG initials of S.T? Thanks
LOL
Bless his heart
Smoked turkey(that I put gravy on :facepalm:) and mac n’ cheese, and a spinach salad with avocado and cheddar cheese
Really? Cookie is self made. The other woman is dependent on a drug dealer and is the type of ignorant individual that thinks drug money is better than legit money.
And I love Terrance Howard and Taraji P. Henson as actors.
phone/tv both necessities..the rest I agree with you…Now I’m not saying that you spoonfeed them but they have been sentenced and doing the time…
Here are some more credible articles regarding Empire’s boost in ratings!
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/ratings-empire-bernie-sanders-jimmy-kimmel-1201624077/
http://tvline.com/2015/10/22/empire-ratings-season-2/
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/10/22/tv-ratings-wednesday-oct-21-2015/479826/
I ain’t mad at ya. Do ya thang.
now that’s, a lunch…
Nah, I disagree. If they didn’t have those things it would be extremely hard & dangerous for the corrections officers.
I understand they should be restricted, I agree with you there however why shouldn’t they be able to talk on the phone? They can’t talk on it for hours the way you or I can.
it would be pure chaos..
I took a bus out a Raleigh a few times. I like the casinos on this coast. They’re cheaper than Vegas.
Clearly I struck a nerve because I don’t recall,saying everything is about,”black hate”…..I’m talking about ONE television show here….?
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went to DC
If they didn’t have those things, the recidivism rate would probably drop dramatically.
Jail should be a painful, uncomfortable experience – not a taxpayer-funded vacation for criminals.
There are law-abiding citizens who can’t afford a TV or phone; yet, we provide those amenities to convicted thieves, dealers, druggies, rapists, and murderers?
Food and water are necessities. Inmates don’t need a telephone or television to survive.
Now I would love to see that based on snore fest going on. Look at the writers trying to write for black people. Their fears(ghetto) is being written in along with Lees fantasy of getting his dack suck by random fans????
Love American horror. I remember I watched a whole season on the weekend. It was so fun. Lol. It was prob season one and two. Loved that girl with Down syndrome. She was good. In the earlier season I’m referring to.
No. Rocky was not on Empire last night. Charles Malik Whitfield played Andre’s pastor last night.
My point. Lost me from ep 1
I don’t like THAT “patterned” type of beard, if that makes any sense.
Prisoners shouldn’t be allowed to interact with the outside world. Your freedom is the price you pay for your crimes.
HEY! We are HAIR…oops I mean here. LOL Even the scenes he was in started looking dated. LOL
It’s two differant groups hitting Lyon Dynasty. Lucious sent the two robbers in there. It’s someone else robbing and kidnapping folk. Thirsty might have something to do with it, but I don’t think Lucious does.
Sounds like they got too caught up in the hype .Don’t count your chickens before they hatch
Monique probably went to a serious roots doctor to get even with Lee Daniels
Although the ratings are still great, the “power of suggestion” for blacks may not be the issue of the weekly decrease in ratings. If Lee Daniels is consulting others for answers to why the numbers are decreasing weekly, a lot of his questions was answered after the 1st week’s, 2nd week’s episodes and so forth. The problem is companies do not listen to the consumer or in this case, the viewers, because they think they can tell us what we like, rather than listen to what we like. Power of suggestion is real, but at a certain point people revert to their true selves and that is what Lee Daniels should consider.
I no longer watch after the 2nd week after being an avid Season 1 viewer and raved about the show. I listed my reasons before, but to briefly reiterate: (too much gay love scenes, Jamal’s singing is horrible, Cookie is too over the top, the story line doesn’t flow continuously, less drama feel and more theatrical).
HAAAaaaaa. I die for a good pun!!! I am a #cornball. LMAO. too funny.
Or get a souped-up Fire Stick from somebody.
I’m still confused on how they ruled Vernon’s death a suicide and closed the case so quickly. That part flew over my head or something. Just seemed unrealistic.
I started watching the show and went to sleep. I cannot tell you what happened on the parts I did watch. Something is just off with the show this season.
I LOVE’EM! LOL
Last nights episode was terrible and accomplished nothing. It was a waste of an episode.
Empire was good, though. I liked it. I’m appreciating what is being presented re: Lucious’ childhood. It reveals a lot about why he is the way he is, particularly towards Andre. I’m just wondering when Rhonda is going to tell Andre that the baby she is carrying is likely not his? And I wonder how Cookie and Lucious will feel about it when that child is born without a stitch of melanin?
I do that, it just seems like the amount of commercials are doubled with this show compared to others.
This is true. I guess it just never caught my eye, too hyped up. I might try to watch it once it hits Netflix.
Just watched the episode and I am amazed at how much jussie has aged since last season. Is Lee holding him hostage for real?
I pictured him walking in with the Newport in his mouth and doing the spin and slide like the Jackson 5 saying “What’s happenin bruthaaaa” or like Lenny from Good Times, “my name is Lennnayy and what you ain’t got I got plenaaay” lol
Nobody likes Neyo, he lame as fck. I almost changed the channel when he came on lol. AND SANDRA CAN’T READ IT’S 12.1 MILLION VIEWERS
DVR NUMBERS are pinged based on the unique viewer, not the amount of times you watch.
Gaypire
Kool cigarettes
Struck a nerve over a show that I have no vested interest in? Hardly! If that is the case, everyone’s berve was struck. It is a blog about entertainment. My nerves don’t live here.
I think that title fits best
Empire is good to me I still watch, but I am starting to believe Lee Daniels is pushing the “gay agenda” a little much. There where so many storylines that could’ve had more dept, but he spent over a 3rd of the shows on Jamal and his relationship problems. When he could’ve played off and added to other parts of the story.
Too much gayness for me
swoon! White boy Tommy is fine,,,
I called Comcast, and the person I spoke with said that’s not true. She said Comcast does not share any such “ping unique viewer” data with Nielsen. The DVR numbers are totally fake.
The show is unrealistic…..lol
Hole up that Otis. Well I’ll take him too.
Sandra are you sure? THR is reporting that ratings are stable.
That was my understanding too, from THR and deadline.
On to the next one! The Empire way.
Some of those amenities have been used to prove the innocence of many. I can’t imagine attempting to rehabilitate people who have no clue of the society moving forward without them. How do you integrate someone back into society without skills? Hiw do you monitor someone who doesn’t have an outlet? You couldn’t pay me to work in a correctional facility without these so called luxuries. It’s hard enough as it is.
Sheddup! ? BOL ??? a la Little Richard
BOL! Dayum shame that question has to be asked.
Still in rotation.
Textbook. Thrown in for good measure to try to throw off the truth that these churches are being burned down due to the hue of the parishoners.
Next season?
Your last sentence has me rolling. “…fellatio to whomever accepted.”
To me is seems as if the characters on Power are more developed.
Can’t cuss? What CAN’T be said on tv now?
Brava!
They do count. Nielsen ratings are actually based on sound, not views. Yes, that’s right – Nielsen tracks your viewing habits by the sounds that are emitted from your viewing device.
Google Stuff You Should Know, How Nielsen Ratings Work
But what I want to know is WHO THE HECK WOULD WATCH EMPIRE 20 TIMES IN A ROW – even once is too much sometimes!
Menthol
Cookie called him Dora in season one.
????? ok!!!
Hell naw…I must have been under a rock. ? I missed that!!!
I agree………I’ve never seen Power but it seem interesting,so I bought the seasons on Amazon and will watch them soon.
There are people that live to tear down Empire.I feel it’s a combination of two groups,which mainly consist of people, that watch Power and people that hate Lee Daniels,because of his obvious gay agenda as well as the one, he has against God.
Power supporters including Power’s own, 50 Cent, seem to feel there is no room for both shows,so they dog the show every chance they get,which is just stupid to me.
I get why people don’t care for Lee Daniels because of his agendas,but as long as you’re aware,you won’t be pulled into his agenda.Truth is that,kids should not be watching Empire.
I’m sure FOX has the ability to obtain the data though Comcast first, and then they share it with Nielsen for their report. They getting the information some how lol
I thought it was actually good last night.
In real life that’s how it is… Most people would be think aren’t you on fed time with a weapon? When a person still living foul It’s how they roll. 2nd the depending on thevdrug boss woman That’s exactly how it is real life circumstances & im not referring to the neighborhood street boi ( who working under someone else) I’m speaking on the person he working for….it’s rare that you will find the Boss dealing with a woman with employment & if he do it’s because he using her to ” clean” his money, or make moves that need to be made …believe me whatever line of work she is in she serving a purpose.
Omg I said the same thang last week or so..I nae on the eardbae..Andre is much too fine for that. Hate it!
Please dont..???
Oh lord I scrolled down and read @luv patties..too late??
It does make him look like somebody’s dated uncle. His skin is too beautiful to be hiding.?
LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, this was hilarious! I can go on to glory now.
I watch.. love it too!
I was glad she hired Porsche back. Her and Cookie make a good team.
True!
PEOPLE are swayed by the power of suggestion…PEOPLE .
But he could STILL get the bizness..all day!??
Producer or not, who the f thought it was a good idea for Neyo to be the one to talk about “boy problems on the road w/Jamal?”…
Neyo playing himself just keeps on playing himself.
Just get tired of the blasphemy and the boy on boy action. I also hate how theirs so much going on when they can really milk one of the plots for a few episodes then move on. Hakeem was just trying to get his girl group popping now he’s kidnapped? Jamal’s man randomely popped back into the picture this season now he’s cheating? Lucious was in jail then got out after one episode? I just wish they would develop things a little bit more before they jump onto something else
SANDRA ROSE you are a hating. Sit Down. And if you are going to use a source for support make sure it agrees with your warped opinion not the opposite.
Just curious, if I watch on Hulu does that count in the ratings?
I work in one and they snap out when commissary is late…
Just give me one night with his a** lol goodness, he is delicious!!
I used to listen to his music the first album … But I am not a fan.
So why is every other source reporting a 4% increase wihout dvr numbers
From your “Source” link:
Why does the blog owner go out of her way to misinform?
That’s exactly what I do! Skip all those commercials!!
That show is over the top and does way tew much. They oh-dee-ing on the strong sexual content.
Wow, this is a pathetic article. Empire’s ratings rose last week. They did not plunge. The ratings this week were 4% higher than the ratings of the first season’s fifth episode. I’m not sure why you posted this lie. It makes you look sad and unprofessional. It’s as if you have an ax to grind, and are too lazy to read ratings sites like TVbythenumbers or spoilertv. I’m pretty sure that you are also too lazy to correct this.
The 12,183 million does not count DVR viewing. The only DVR viewing that counts is from those who belong to the Nielsen survey audience. Newsflash, those people are not being counted twice. They submit their data once.
I just realized what you have done, you are mixing house hold ratings up with actual physical viewers. Please go back to your source site, and try to learn the terminology. Empire’s rating this week was 4.8, which was a point higher than last week. The total number of viewers was 12.28, which is a number that does not take into account delayed viewing that occurred after 3am. The number that you are listing is a household rating point.
This is so funny, but the sad thing is that people actually think that you know what you are talking about.
That’s not how this works. Please think about this. Nielsen only counts the people in their group once. They do not double count. They use People Meters now, as well as ratings books. People don’t even have to enter what they are watching into a People Meter. Please do some basic reasearch.
No, the only people who count are those who are part of the Nielsen survey panel. But, do collect data on your views. It’s a nice thing to have, but not the same as being part of the survey panel.
No, DVR numbers are based on those who are on the Nielsen panel. Just like all of the other numbers. Comcast does share how popular a show is on their On Demand Service.
No they are not. Nielsen releases Live + 3 day viewing numbers as well as Live + 3 day viewing numbers. Add rates are based on Live +C3 data, which means those who watched a show live and saw it on a commercial streaming platform with three days of airing.
The numbers that you saw last season and this season have always been for live viewing and DVR viewing that has taken place before 3am. You are incredibly confused. The number that you listed is for households, and not total viewers. A good site for you to learn what the ratings mean is TVbythenumbers.
Lee Daniels ruined the show. Too many cameos, Black people were watching Black people in season 1 season 2 they watered it down and too many contrived marketing gimmicks and ploys.
Stopped watchin Empire bec gay kissing. Empire should be for grannies and trannies.
Gay kissing feels like dirty gay ‘recruirtment program targeting Black heterosexuals. Creepy. Lee Daniels is a liar when he says Blacks are homophobic when they are not homosexual.