In last night’s episode of Empire, titled “A High Hope for a Low Heaven,” Hakeem Lyon (Bryshere Gray) deals with the devastating psychological effects of being gang raped by 3 kidnappers who are extorting Empire Records for protection money.
First on Hakeem’s to-do list after he is freed is to have sex with his father’s ex-fiancée, Anika (Grace Gealey) on her front stoop in full view of pedestrians passing by.
There are other clues that Hakeem’s back door was brutally violated: he starts hearing voices (a sign that he might be suffering from an undiagnosed mental illness) and he repeatedly screams “I’m straight!” to his brothers when they try to comfort him after his rough ordeal.
“He feels humiliated,” says his openly gay brother, Jamal (Jussie Smollet) with a knowing smile.
When his mother, Cookie Lyon (Taraji P Henson) stupidly takes Hakeem back to the scene of the crime to “negotiate” with the 3 kidnappers, Hakeem — who is mourning the loss of his manhood — pulls a gun on his captors.
Cookie talks him out of pulling the trigger. In flashbacks, she recalls her 17 years locked up in prison — away from her 3 sons who grow up without her. “I’d rather die than lose you again,” Cookie tells him.
A family doctor examines Hakeem, and he notices fresh abrasions on Hakeem’s back and buttocks.
Instead of getting counseling for his son, who was violently raped, Lucious Lyon (Terrence Howard) gives him a new track. But Hakeem is too emotionally overwrought to care about music. He tosses the track on the ground.
“With you, there’s always strings,” He tells his father before walking away.
Cookie looks to ex-cop-turned concert promoter, Laz Delgado (Adam Rodriguez) to be the head of security at her label, Lyon Dynasty Records. She wants protection for her artists, but Delgado is only interested in banging her back out.
Empire‘s overnight ratings slipped again to 10 million + viewers. That’s a full 1 million + viewers down from 2 weeks ago. Empire‘s household rating dropped to 7.9 from the previous episode’s 8.2 rating.
Watch the full episode below, courtesy of Ddotomen.com.
lmao!!!! Instead of getting counseloring for his son who was brutally raped, he gave him a track…. I can’t… I thought the same shit….. Like how is life going on as if it’s all good.. wtf
i guess I missed the raped scene and I watched the whole show.
I’ve missed every episode except half of one. ? I’m just here for the comments.
Hakeem was raped?
Raped??? His character was not raped. He was just beat up.
Good day and Keya were right. He’s gonna be messed up for some time….
There are other clues that Hakeem’s back door was brutally violated:
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Bwhahahahahahahaah
Yep, I hate that happened to him. But if u pay attention you can see the bruises on his back.
Simply love your re cap……… Outside of scratches that anika could have out on his butt and back…why you think rape? Voices??? O well..just a television show….
The only thing I saw that could have remotely been a clue that he may have been raped was when he had a quick flashback of his face being stroked…other than that, I don’t know.
Maybe Anoka did that…he did go to fvck her in broad daylight outside
Is that what happened? He was raped? I just assumed he felt his manhood was taken away because he was beaten and tortured and that’s why he was acting crazy.
I thought he was just beat up tho…. You guys are good…. I would’ve neva guessed that happen to his character.
I’m usually here for Empire…but this episode encompassed waaaaay too much…there was absolutely too much going on. Lee should take his
time and let the plot unfold as it should instead of cramming every detail into one episode. He’s not leaving the viewers at the edge of their seats like last season…
Lol. Wait a minute he was gang raped? Or is Sandra being funny? Lmbo…why am I laughing so hard?
P.S. Rape is not funny. Not even gay rape.
I don’t watch the show any more.
I love how she strung those words together
Was he raped? Because I sure didnt see that! I know he was beat up? but RAPED?
Right!!! I agree I think he was beaten and tortured and didnt fight back. I do not think he was raped.
Its alluded to in the episode…the doctor says he wasn’t…but his behavior says differently…
that is why I don’t watch. One episode could be 3
Exxxaaacccttttlllyyyy….I don’t even remember what occurred last night
This episode left me so confused. I had no idea he was gang raped. There was, as usual, too many gaps to follow the story lines. I agree with others saying there are way too many story lines and they aren’t tight. Cookie’s character has changed; Lucious is…out there, and something wrong. After last night, I’m tempted to not waste any more time with Empire. They should’ve kept it tight like season 1.
I laughed HARD at your post…. but I do not think he was raped and your PS has me cracking up…
I didnt watch it, I’m just hear for the Viewership Argument that takes place every week when SR posts their numbers
Yea… It’s not good at all…. I jus watch for the hell of it.
Not tight at all….
The main thing I saw was that lee did not push the gay agenda so hard…all sex last night was heterosexual
I said it last night while the episode was on. I think its coming. Hakeem was touched. Recap in a second.
Wait his mama took him back to the kidnappers. WHAT? Man, this sounds absurdly interesting. Let me see if this episode is on Hulu. Lawd…lmbo. I mean if he was free… what were they “negotiating”??…I mean according to this write up his manhood was gone…you can’t get that back. Lmbo…why…real tears…
The part where he’s talking to his brothers he says that he was upset because he didn’t fight back. No where do I see any indication that he was raped.
U could be right. But idk , I immediately thought rape from the way doctor reacted , his face bring stroked, & the kidnappers taking of their shirts.
I just said that below.
The good twist was In the last 30 seconds of show…..if you watch..watch all if it to understand the kidnappers…
My Empire recap (for Keya pacifically)
^^^^
Claireece Precious Jones got her walls tapped last night and
I can never unsee that leg up like that. Imma lay @DivineMissM words of rotten tree trunk right here.
I think Hakeem was touched “ in a special way” (Eldra
DeBarge voice) while in captivity. You don’t just spazz out and hear static in your head from getting your ays beat. I mean you can…but this is Empire. Play along.
Cookie still aint a dyke yet. Lee got her sleeping with the
enemigo first for ratings.
Luscious still an ays. Done took that one dumb azz song all
around TOWN holling: “I wrote a song for ya! Like to hear it? HERE IT GEAUX!” Nigga get your cornball azz LOST.
Jamal still sound like a gay goat.
The big brothers rallying around the lil one they helped
raise was a nice touch.
Im so ready for Boo Boo Kitty to get a story line or get the
fugg LOST. Something. My GOD. ENOUGH already.
Episode highlight:
Lucious to Fantasia Loaf: Stay FOCUSED.
Fantasia Loaf: OKAY. *looks dude in the eye who was
tawkin dat chit*
Dude opens his mouf ONE MO TIME…. and she kicked his azz
like Miguel did that damn girl on the awards show.
I cried.
Lmaoooooo
That’s what I thought too. His ego was bruised.
The purpose for them taking off their shirts…getting rid of evidence..they out new ones back on..when they took off their shirts..keen was able to identify them by there tattoos on their backs…
Now see…that thigh was the highlight of the show…I found myself screaming “u bettah throw that XXXXXL thigh biiihhhhh” at the tv
A gay goat?? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!
I feel sorry for Boo Boo Kitty now. But her storyline is nonexistent, so they need to do something.
Damn I must have blinked. I missed that.
I wasnt ready. I was NOT ready. Dont have me holling the first MINUTE in. Hell the first TWENTY seconds.
If he gonna give her one he need to HURRY UP.
It’s in the scene with the doc…it wasn’t verbally stated but understood….
I’m going to have to do that. I mean this write up actually made the show sound interesting. Ludicrous…but interesting.
Yea… The ending was good. It looks like Cookie is gonna hook up with the leader of the cowboy gang.
I was here for it! That thigh was massive tho. I wonder what happens when she….nem’mind…
kfjskjgskfkgkdmgkm
lfsdgkdkjgkdjgd
I. Can. Not. Stand. You. :hug and kisses:
Now let me say this: I do agree that it is like a train wreck that you can’t look away from. However, I don’t get the “all the characters have changed” No one stays the same all the time. But ok. Shoot. I like the damn show and I will keep watching.
What’s this? LOL
ME LAYING ON MY KEYBOARD. Cause I am DEAD at “wonder what happens when she…”
I luh yew
He bet not ever eat the box. SHe will clamp down and kill that man.
I’m happy Lee gave Becky a man, but that thigh left me hollering… Lol
I really don’t think she could hold them up/open that long Keya…can you imagine the strain….
Going to do some work RIGHT NOW. ErmahGAWD.
I’m jealous. She kicked that leg up like. What you really want??
Im down voting BOTH yall. You AND Keya. Jesus.
yeah it was super fast.
They didn’t show the rape scene.
I made my comments last night. Chile I think that boy was raped. I hope to God Cookie hurry up and find out that the sexy Spanish man or whatever he is, is with the kidnappers and I hope she shoot his ass. The dad ain’t shyt. Ain’t never gonna be shyt. Played the hell outta Andre. Like I said last night, the block head kids can’t see the dad plays them HARD every time. Tuh.
One of the keys to writing is to not change the overall personality of your character. Yes, all of us change, but a writer wants to stay as close to the characters core before switching into left field. That’s not to say different moments can’t happen, but Cookie started off one way (in my opinion) and she’s totally different. That goes for many of the other characters as well. JMO.
I was waiting for him to palm it…but, yeah…
Watch the video again. And pay attention to the subtle clues after he is released.
I know. SO sad. Maybe if she had a few pillows on each side?….Then he could. But I promise she would cut off his air and kill him. I wonder if behind her knees smell pre musty, because how can she reach to wash with the t-rex arms?
hahahahahah. What?!
GO TO A MEETING OR SOMETHING.
>>>>>
Right. She was once an big part of the story, but now she’s non-existent. Lee and the writers completely changed the tone of the show.
I can respect that. But I like the show. I take it for what it is and it entertains me. And really, for me, that’s all I need it to be. Entertainment. But I feel you.
You were not thinking it? You KNOW you were.
Probably smells like burnt sweet potato pie because I’m sure she moisturizes with coco butta…her skin was radiant
That would explain why he ran to fawk Anika immediately afterward…. Hmm.. Lemme reach watch (typo but I’m keeping it cause folks stay reaching) cause i missed the face stroke
I hear ya, Keya. A lot of people still like Empire and it’s all good.
First woman doing life for homicide, by way of an orgasm. Her defense: He should not have licked it so good!!
They changed their shirts
Got all greased up for that man. Made sure her weave was tight, in case he pulled it while hitting it from the back. Washed under her neck and her tummy. She was ready!
Even with Auntie’s vivid portrayal of the show; I am still not watching. I still enjoy the innocence of 227 or The Golden Girls- which has sex, sass, and humor carefully written in. When I want to live on the edge I watch the episode of Good Times when Penny got burned or Different Strokes when Arnold and his sister hitched a ride and got kidnapped.
I mean, that’s the point right? It’s not her fault. Big girls need a good licking too I guess.
So you mean she got the best sew in around. Let me go DM her…..I know some folks who can use those services…>ASAPEDLY
There’s no place for her right now… What do you think her role should be? She said herself when talking on the phone.. she’s got nothing left
She goes to Wang’s dog’s hair person. You see that dog’s hair? LAID!!! Tuh
I turned tried to watch, but I fall asleep so early. I vaguely heard her say, “Why she blowing up yo phn….” and I was zzzzzzzzz after that.
None. But what I did not like was how in the beginning, her dad was some big time doctor. So, can’t she go work for him? Why she sound like she was about to be broke on the phone with her momma?
Why in every movie Taraji has a role where she is ALWAYS in somebody ear like that? LOL
Maybe they cut her off
I’m with you. I respect people’s choice to like or dislike it, but people seem to expect it to be perfect (if there is such a thing). I’m aware that LOTS of shows flounder in the first couple of seasons until they get their rhythm. One of my favorite old shows, Girlfriends, was corny as hell at first and was clearly biting off Ally McBeal, but it got it’s rhythm eventually.
How is Cookie now?
He was punched once. That’s how he sustained the wound over his eye. There were no other injuries on him other than the scratches on his back and his buttocks. The look on the doctor’s face when he saw Hakeem’s butt was a dead giveaway that he was brutally gang raped.
So yall not gonna say nothing about the gospel rapper on the ratchet record label? Oh ok. #ILuhGod
Thank you for being a friend
Traveled down the road and back again
My heart is true
You’re a pal and a confidant
And if you threw a potty
Invited everyone you knew
You would see the biggest gift
Would be from me
And the card attached would say
Thank you for being a friend
That’s what I was thinking.
Your re cap was better than whole episode
He was walking with a slight limp too…and the sex scene with Anika was his attempt to regain/reinforce his “manhood”
You know what. To be honest with you, I think they need to look at how successful the show was during season 1 and go back to what worked. She was involved with Lucious. There was a triangle between Lu, Cookie, and Boo Boo Kitty. There was a dynamic during season 1 that is all but gone now. To me, the characters aren’t recognizable. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Viewership is decreasing, and for those who like the current direction of the show, it’s all good. But since viewership is decreasing, then they, in my opinion, need to reevaluate why. I’m sure they’ve heard the complaints. It reminds me of what happened to The Game. They changed the premise of the show, and now it’s been cancelled.
The clues were obvious. He asked his captors to drop him off near Anika’s house. Why? Because, instead of going home or going to a doctor, he went to see a slut (Anika) who he knew would give it up easily and make him feel like a man again.
That could be her storyline then. Show she got cut off money wise. Estranged from her folks. How she plotting to get back in with Empire ‘nem.
But just having her randomly up there is crazy looking kinda. And its to play up her real life relationship with Trai I do belee. She dispensable. All the scenes she in could do without her. Example: Hakeem coulda ranned and hunched Tiana.
I know of no show with as much buzz as this one, to have characters up there for no reason.
I appreciated that. Considering Andre is saved in all.
I did but I did not. I did, because who can’t appreciate God’s message? But I did not because, I don’t like the ratchet label and gospel artist mix. But that’s just me though.
Kirk Franklin role……
I send this to my frans in a text EVERYTIME after a visit. LOL
Watch the video again. Pay attention to the non-verbal cues.
I did but I did not.
^^^^^^^^
I had a feeling right away that Hakeem had been raped because when he was first released,he sought out Anika for sex.I wonder if there will be a story line concerning HIV,since I would assume it was unprotected by guys in the closet.
The scene with the doctor was the dead giveaway.
SO last night someone said, that Andre is saved now, so he is no longer crazy, so is it that he is back on the meds? And WHO heard the dad check the shyt outta him, talking about “I did not put you in charge, I placed you there. It’s a difference.” I was like see? He STAY playing all simple asses.
What she do with that ring????
um The Game was on for 8 seasons.. it was time to go.. Poor example
Tiana ain’t fawking him no more.. He knew Boo Boo kitty would be down
I missed that part… now i have to go back and watch it again.
Cookie’s new man also has a tattoo on his back….
She sure is not. She been over him.
I can’t wait till they find out.
Men don’t usually admit to being raped.
Somebody give me a play-by-play of this THIGH. FUgg she do? Get sexy wit it?
Cookie need to bring them bangs down about 2 more inches.
Yup. He sure is. He is gonna have to tell them too. And it’s gonna be a total mess when he and the rest of them find out that Cookie new boo was in on it the whole time. See, THIS is why I will keep watching.
Oh my gosh what is even going on anymore??? This is like a black novella.
I noticed she brought them down about a half inch from last time, but she still has a few more to go.
Okay maybe not Tiana. One of the girl group heffas maybe. The one who got throwed out the group. IDK. Anika taking up space tho.
I think he still trying to turn him away from God
WHALE from WATT EYE see yall fonting on here, I think they are going to find a way to turn this cat gay too. Say that he liked it, like the feeling (Chris Tucker voice) DURING SWEEPS WEEK of course
Going to the Festival of Praise in Rochester Sat.
Now one of them, I can see. Wait not the one who was on the left, when they were on stage. She all stiff. And she always looks lost.
The scene with the doctor was the obvious giveaway. The fact that he asked his captors to drop him off at Anika’s house so he could immediately have sex with her was another obvious clue that he was raped. His manhood was tooken from him and he wanted to feel like a man again.
LMAO @ all the mutherfukkers that come on any given site feeling the need to say “they don’t watch Empire” and yet here you are commenting on it…
Do yu want a cookie or something? Millions of people watch the show every week and WE love it….
And I wish the dumb ass dad would leave him be. He wanna Luh God, then let him. The fugg do you care so much bout it for. You can Luh God too. Ugh
Jamal and Cookie will be back working together next week.. So that relationship hasn’t changed.. it went through a growing pain
cookie still telling folks to sheddup
Folks Road Schowlering ALL (or any given)SITES now and ish
Who wrote that? This was in here?
RIIIIGGHHTTT! Now that we’ve said something about it, they gone have them covering her eyes like these overdone bob bangs that I’ve seen here lately. How do folks see to do ANYTHING with a bang covering 93% of your face. I mean how do you see to drive once you leave the shop?
RAPED!? Damn, what did I miss?!
Oh yeah,just scroll,you’ll see it several times….
I live about 15 min from Rochester and wish I would have known about this…
….Just like I don’t think Cookie was dyking (DUBB) I don’t see that from Hakeem. However, he is going to have serious issues, watch. A family of nut cases.
LOL at this write up.
Some people who fresh out the pen…are not tryna go back. They done showed how she was traumatized by her prison stay. She keep talking about how she missed out on her boys growing up yip yap etc…
How you go from striking deals to stay outta GOING BACK to gel one episode or two ago…to pulling a gun on a group of MEN?
Not logical sometimes.
Lol they had to get it off their chest and pull a DJustice in the name of all those that watch. Hallelujah and I say amen.
Oh my gosh Sandra…. i think you’re right…. that part with him jumping on boo boo kitty was odd, i was like what the hell…. dammit Lee!
The dude I WAS talking to gon fake retch during her lil scene.. Like i was so through.. Grow up dude and let her get some… Big girls need love too
I love those bangs! But you can’t see anything…but they hot though!
Nope. I’m not looking for that shyt. People can comment on a show they don’t watch. Just because someone don’t like it, does not mean that they can’t say why, or ask questions. The questions might get answered, peek the persons interest and bring them back to the show. Either way, it’s not that damn deep. #ManufacturedBullShyt
When she said he tapped all 4 of her walls, I .. I
I understand what you’re saying, but I’m thinking if Lee really wants to push all things gay, this would be a chance to make him gay
She had a man between her legs hunny and he was gassing her up and all of sudden…that XXXXXXL thigh slowly raised up like a hippo coming up for the kill…
Sybil??? Ahgane???
THIS.
I’m assuming we are going to keep developing that story with his mama.. He see Andre turning into his crazy azz mama in like every way
When she said he tapped all 4 of her walls, I..
Just his luck that he was in Boo Boo Kitty neighborhood. And Cookie luck that she was able to put a gun to the head of the kidnappers and walk away without a scratch.
Im out.
Running for my blog life.
IIIIIIISSCCCCCREEEAAMMM!!!
They don’t know the blog rules
@ ’em or dap “em
I think Lee was mad at Grace for stealing Trai out from under him. The gays can be insanely jealous.
Yup. But he would be honest about the crazy momma…ok so I may have missed it, but where is his momma now?
Trruuueeee
Spit out my jelly belly’s….that poor man….now he put in work…that was no easy feat…then again, they say big girls have the tightest…
We talkin LeeLah Daniels here, it’s bound to happen.
“..And the card attached” –Don’t laugh at me, but I always thought that was “and the HEART ATTACK would say thank you for being a friend” –I was like damn, this friend was so happy to see you, dey done had a heart attack? das a good fren–Then someone set me straight. I was so ashamed. ::KONA::
….
Oh okay
*waving* Morning
So I’m watching on Hulu and the couch they throw Hakeem on is sprayed painted “I banged your… ” and I can’t read the rest.. kinda looks like it might be sister… Hmm…
See, that’s why I said I was not going to look and I did not. smdh.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You betta run for it, run for it, run (in my Juvenile voice)
As usual,you misunderstood what was written….I could care less as to who watch it or not.
I’m speaking of people that feel the need to ANNOUNCE they don’t watch it,as if it’s relevant that they don’t…..
It’s seems very deep to those that feel the need to make their announcements.For me it’s truly not that deep,because I’m going to watch it regardless.
NOW that’s funny!
YESSS! I love TV Land.
it is getting easier now!!
+100 for ME!!!
You’re right; that aspect hasn’t changed, but what I miss is how they all worked together, albeit, with many conflicts, for Empire. Lucious was the head and he and Cookie battled it out, but their relationship wasn’t as toxic as it is now. Remember, Cookie loved Lu and she even slept with him. Even Jamaal has changed. The story lines are not cohesive and tight. The show is all over the place, whereas before, people knew what was going on. There’s a lot of confusion now.
THEY finna take our fake script on here and mash it all together for next week
LMAO…the visual…you running like honey boo boo?
FOH Gabby
LEE best run me my damn coint then. TUH, Stealing my recaps and chit.
Chile …. saw that shyt like …. here we damn go …. bye Ya’ll be back sometime
Sir, I did not misunderstand anything. I turned my blog life over to Jesus, so I am not fussing about nothing. Good Day Sir. Be blessed.
^^^ That gif is hilarious chile
I figured. That’s exactly why I was not going to look.
To me he even was walking funny . But maybe I was reading to much into.
Ummm, no it was not a poor example. Yes, The Game was on for 8 seasons, but it could’ve gone to season 9 had they not changed the premise of the show. Think about seasons 1-3 vs. 4-8. Hell, they even got rid of the key players. It was doomed to fail. The viewers were very clear as to how the show jumped the shark, but no one listened.
AND FURTHER MORE no one can stop how anyone talks/speaks
THat’s a natural statement to say if you saw it or not. THIS SHATT PISSES SYBIL OFF APPARENTLY
Are people really questioning if he was raped? LMAO Trust if Lee wanted him to get butt raped be would have no problem letting it be known. Not One…
AND WE’RE OFFFFFF :racehorse:
Victim Hour has BEGUN! *bams gavel*
Chile it’s in bold…. so When I read I was like .. smh
EYE SEE David Justice is backtracking his comments he tweeted about Halle
LOL
He was hit in his head with the gun and that’s how he got the eye jammie. The scratches came from Onika.
It never fails every time I’m trying to be productive & earn my check something pops off in here.
Yep, when he walked into the family room.
He didn’t want to get karate chopped/ sued.
Ummm does anyone watch BIC Chicago? Did yall talk about the latest episode?
Yoni, you an old (valued and verified) Rose? Blink one time IF YES
Hakeem asked his captors to drop him off in her neighborhood. Lucious said it when he and Cookie were waiting for Hakeem to get dropped off.
Agreed! I think he probably signed something, and just Remembered!
You mad? Your font sounds angry…
…
Right. And he didn’t have any injuries on him other than over his eye. The other injuries were inflicted on his back during the rape.
Snatches yo hand so we can run away together. So we won’t get in trubba sis….
I tol’ y’all not to laugh @@doesnttalk:disqus
A HIPPO COMING UP FOR THE KILL…
Dubb, riddle me this, when did this blog change format? Was it in the summer of 2014?
My lottery ball eyes won’t allow me to do so on a Dursday. Have a good day.
Define: valued and verified
THAT TIS NAUGHT AH BLINK
And he kept screaming, “I’M STRAIGHT!”
No. This past spring/summer. We only been on Daquan for a few months. Feels like years don’t it?
I’m just saying…
What would you like to discuss?? Don’s simple azz? His simple baby mama with that hollow apartment? Charmaine’s thirsty azz, that thinks she’s wifey material cuz she’ll get fugged by someone else’s man in a bathroom?
Sure does. smdh. Just wondering.
I call that the death stare when folks don’t mind dey bizness. LMAO Now go’ne Smurfette!
…?
I was tryna signal with my one greener eye
It does just seem like with Empire folks are more hype to throw out that they don’t watch or hate it
YES! That itty bitty one is Surely the death stare!
LMAOOOO even MORE! LOL
NOW you got me thinking of Ben Carson! :crying1: Somebody said this morning(IONO if it was a joke or not) that he said he falls asleep while driving!!!!!!
You heard that one?
Yeah they hot and all, but I mean c’mon. What the bang don’t cover, the overdone lashes make up for it. My goodness!
Yes
hollow apartment
^^^^
Hey boo
Joke or truth? FunnYYYY either way!
LOL!!!! Dang, Lee’s greedy. I guess Jussie was taken?
Probably both?
Pathetic still holding on to stuff after 19 years
(in regards to this post)
Nah MissyJ, I think I was the only one to say that I missed it last night. THAT’s how you know it’s Sybil. She just had to come in all RAH RAH style
Lol. First of all let me say thank you for entertaining my question…
1.) I think they have a much cleaner/attractive cast. Don is fine to me. *runs and hides*
2) Don’s girl sounds and looks ridiculous. She isn’t going anywhere. I don’t think he loves her as much as he loves his son and the idea of a family.
3. Charmaine is a THOT. She’s in denial about it though.
4. Lastly is Ryan and the blasian chick together now…in real life?
*emails Sandra to review your membership*
who swapped her meds??? TEARS. (again!)
#HatedIt
….lol…don’t mind me I’m bored.
I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I did read years ago in his book Gifted Hands (or Think Big – can’t remember which one) that he fell asleep at the wheel (or skidded on ice) and had a car accident. Yall can pick out what’s manufactured or not in this.
SR I just had another thought
Some of this years Christmas Gifts could be Food Related
Like giftcards to restaurants (dine in OR fast food spots)
I like Ryan, I think he’s a cutie pie. He looked better when he had a beard though. Don is fine too, but is simple as hell and it’s a turn off.
*snorts*
You know they are gonna clown on SNL!
Lucious (horrible name btw, like is it supposed to convey that he’s hard? Because it doesn’t) wants everyone around him to worship him.
I think so as well.
He is attractive as well. I heard that him and Jeremih have been getting into it on the gram over Jeremih’s son. And that he and the baby mama (Rachel) are beefing.
Okay, this sounds juicy. RECAP please.
From the top (Debbie Allen voice :crying1: )
Clearly you’re mad at my font—>LMAO
Shout-out to all my people who aren’t INTIMIDATED by posters,that know how to write in different fonts.Don’t dumb yourself down for those,who are jealous of a font…LMAO!
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Lol. Child you are insane…stick around. You entertain me. Our resident sped.
Hongree bish. LOL Will they be for ATL’s local spots such as: Bar None (isn’t that the name of Peter’s spot?), or Straits or Triple Beams….oops I mean Scales?
(jacked)
An upcoming biography of former President George H.W. Bush contains harsh critical assessments by the 41st president of some of the top officials from his son’s presidency.
The former president knocked former Vice President Dick Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to his biographer, Jon Meacham in interviews for “Destiny and Power: The American Odyssey of George Herbert Walker Bush,” calling Cheney an “iron-ass” and labeling Rumsfeld “an arrogant fellow.”
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Big Poppa said yall not gonna let my son get and take ALL the blame for this mess!
Dang I missed that, that explains why he was acting the way that he was.
IONO about no names of ATL spots
Sure does, she sleeping with the enemy
Nun!! Hey Hey! Yeah, will not live this down for nothing! lol, meds–whelll, I just recently found myself with a good ton of time on my hands. am fittin’ to act a plum fool. get yo self ready.
That’s what I thought, if he was raped you would think they would’ve made let the viewers know, unless its going to come out later.
Lol @ from the top. Long story short.. Ryan and Rachel were together. He cheated. She one upped him and got with Jeremih. Her and Jeremih had a baby. She said he doesn’t take care of the kid and that Ryan stepped in and is basically his father. Ryan posted some pics of the little boy on the gram. Jeremih was like chill… I take care of my kid, he wants nothing, and he doesn’t need ANYTHING from you.
On the show Ryan keeps saying he wants to get back with Rachel. He wants to marry her. Well allegedly, they tried to get back together here recently. They went on vacation to Bermuda (idk for real could’ve been Miami) and she found out about Kat (the blasian) and she was like F you ninja. But I don’t know what she “found out” about Kat. I for real just think Rachel knows that she can get with someone with more money and she’s #OverIt.
Then why speculate
Isn’t the actor who plays Hakeem gay in real life? Wasn’t there a picture of him and Lee Daniels licking lollipops shirtless in his trailer on set leaked online?
I think it will be a flash back.
You have to read more into what was shown.
He was raped because why else would he be seeking sex with a woman,as soon as he was released from captivity?
LOL–thank you for being a friend.
Yes!!!!!!!!! They are a lot cleaner and seem to have all their damn teef!!!!! Charmaine is loud-mouthed skank. Ugh. You can’t be both, bish. You can’t be both.
No Hakeem posted a pic on his Ig of him standing in a trailer with no shirt on with Lee Daniels.. Nothing leaked, it was a secret
You’re SO WELCOME! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OH EYE SEE NOW!
She’s just using this katchick as a way out, since she’s ah Starrah now.
WHALE I can dig it
Keep me posted
Right, the clues were dropped all over Keen was touched.
Bar None is Peter’s spot. Straits was Luda’s spot and Scales is TI’s spot……I’m guessing.
Lol @ you can’t be both! And I think they are much better tattoo artist too.
Chile…I am no resident here.I’m just here for what Sandra says because she’s one of the FEW “free minds” here.
Chile you are JUST ANOTHER CONFORMIST on this site looking for laughs and backup from other similar birds,with your mindset…LMAO!
Babee…I am on YOUR radar,You are NOT on mine…
Nuff said…..You’re now DISMISSED and DISCARDED into the trash pile that awaits you at the curb.
WHALE Felon if youre listening (reading) just write a book(while you’re locked up).
SHe’s not bound by any HIPPA laws IF SHE AIN’T a frfr nurse
#winning
I think Cookie pulled the gun bc just like any mother she will sacrifice for child. Keep is the weakest, before she let’s him do time she’ll do it.
“I’m straight” can mean, I’m good and yelling it can be frustration from people hovering over you. But I don’t watch the show, so “I’m straight”. LOL
Right…I wonder who hired him though?
I keep watching to support it plus it’s fun in the garden. Lol
…but you keep responding.
I mean it’s a website so how can anyone be a resident? You need a hug. And you’re typing in bold so clearly you want to be on everyone’s radar. It’s ok. Put the crayons down and wrap your arms around yourself. That’s a virtual hug from me to you.
Tf?
SIR…..Of course you didn’t misunderstand anything.You just wanted to start some cyber drama and give the usual riff raff here some laughs,because that’s what you do SIR.
SIR……I don;t want any part of your FAKE blessings, SIR…..I won’t wish you anything because “frankly I don’t give a d@mn…”
End of discussion….
I dont think he was gang raped i believe he was tortured a little bit i assumed he went to smash boo boo kitty to get bk at Luscious again bc Hakeem assumed his dad was responsible for him being kidnapped hell idk ?
I didn’t any indication that he was raped. Kidnappers don’t rape. They beat their captives.
I agree. I didn’t get that he was raped, and why would the Daniels & Co. imply that kidnappers “rape”? Kidnappers beat people.
This just shows how poor the writers are. Kidnappers don’t rape. They want the money. They will humiliate, they will kill and beat. But they don’t rape (unless it’s a woman — like ISIS did)
I don’t remember the kidnappers dropping his off. I’ll have to revisit.
Chile the true business side of Gospel can be ratchet as hell.
He wasnt raped. That was the point of him going in the dining room to be evaluated. And the dr said not other injuries but the eye.
I must have been sleeping because I totally missed that he was raped.
Like they beat him.
She’s always giving out the nappy dugout to security guards. You noticed?
I don’t recall them showing his butt and seeing abrasions. And where did the gang rape come from? Just b/c someone uses the phrase ” I’m straight” doesn’t mean anything. I say it a lot to people I know when they ask how I’m feeling or doing and I know I’m not gay. Where do you come up w/some of this stuff????
Well, I don’t watch it!! (There I said it) and I am 1000% sure (like the women on Maury) that no one is trying to sway you from watching it, by saying that they don’t. You are correct, though…IT’S REALLY NOT THAT DEEP, either way.
They kind of implied it for a while… I’m just rolling at SR.. she always over dramatize everything…
I didn’t see his butt, just his back. I need to go on demand, and replay that because I missed all of what you are talking about.
But why did he report back to Cookie and Lucious that there were no other serious injuries besides the eye? And said Hakeem was lucky. Raped does not sound very lucky.
No….. SR said that in the post.. She’s always so extra with her stories…. lol
It’s so obvious he was raped. Why would a doctor take him into another room and close the doors to examine him? He was doing a rape kit on Hakeem.
They did. We didn’t see it, but the driver told Cookie, and Luscious that he dropped him off.
Because he couldn’t embarrass the man in front of his family.
Then why did the doctor take him into another room to examine him? He was looking at his arse for signs of rape. Hakeem knows that his father knew he was raped. That’s why he was having flashbacks and hearing voices.
I was like “Gabby T.M.I. girl tmi”
i said that all night.
Lucious asked the van driver where Hakeem was. The driver said, “homeboy asked to be let out.” In the next scene, you see Hakeem kissing Anika outside her front door. Clearly Hakeem asked to be let out near Anika’s house because he wanted sex. If a man is beat up and tortured, sex will be the last thing on his mind – unless he was gang raped and he is eager to prove to himself that his manhood is intact and he’s not gay.
i agree 100%!!! I said this all night.
Speaking of Tiana I would have much rather saw her as the lead singer in that song that girl group did. That other girl has no appeal . Tiana would have killed it.
i don’t watch it no mo either….
Ion like how Cookie treating Porche..that was her ride or die in season one now she just rude to her.
Lmao???
My thing with the new girl is why she looking all emo hell she didn’t want him? I know they had a moment and all but she don’t want him..or does she..now?
Cause Lucious is the devil!
Tru and they need to keep that hard blue light off her face..she was looking old af in it.
Ain’t he gay in real life tho anyway?
I just saw a recent pic of him in a gay club arm draped on a man soooo…
I have never watched an episode of this hyper-stereotyping trash but if they are trying to have complex storylines where not everything is spelt out for folks, they got the wrong audience for that. America’s comprehension of subtext and implication has been dulled by too much reality tv.
I’m telling you, I didn’t see past that part.
Luscious song… I mean wtf!!!! Garbage
I caught it but I don’t think cookie nor Lucious did…they think he just got beat!
I can’t wait for Hakeems reaction when he see’s that fools tat…he is going to kill him!
Maybe Hakeem told the doc not to say it? idk…crazy tho
Porsha has never been her ride or die.. tf show were you watching.. She called Porsha a dumbass, threatened to fire her, yelled at her.. She is treating Porsha exactly the same lol
oh boy… *replenishes Kleenex stash*
It didn’t NEED to go to 9.. With or without the original format… The show wasn’t canceled BECAUSE they changed formats.. that would’ve happened season 4 or 5 if that was the case. Yes it is a PISS POOR example to use a show that went on for FIVE additional seasons after a change in format to prove a case that changing formats kills show… ROFL
Actually The Game is a direct opposite of the point you’re trying to make. It was cancelled after 3 season at the so “good format” and then lasted for 5 season at what you consider the “bad” format. The change helped the shows longevity apparently
Nice! I loved that Precious scene. She got a bae AND HE FINE! Shout out to Lee! BBWs are winning!
Porcha wasn’t her ride or die when Anika offered her more money to leave and she flipped it and told on her? ..then stayed!
Yes Porsha treated HER well.. not the other way around
Cookie & Lucious be to wrapped up in their own drama.
I’m sorry but this show is so corny now. After catching up on the 2 seasons of Power, I can’t with Empire..
I just think she treating her worse.
yep, that why cookie sleeping with the enemy and don’t even know it!
They too self absorbed to really understand what’s going on with their kids. Cookie is starting to become alil bit to detached for me. I think she needs to balance luscious evil ass out.
That episode was all over the place! Precious and her boo. Andre acting all weird about gospel rap. Fantasia Loaf popping off (again). Terrance trying to rap!
After watching the episode again, he wasn’t raped. It looks like Hakeem is really upset that he couldn’t/didn’t defend himself.
I never watched this show and now I never will
But the doctor came back and told them that everything was okay other than the eye…oh yeah but doctor/patient confidentiality makes him obligated to keep whatever between him and the patient. Dang it! I’m confused now.
Yeah they should’ve let her and Cookie work together.
I think he was sexually assaulted hence his reason for going to see Anika first to have sex with her to prove his manhood…something happened because the clues were overwhelming..#imo
I agree, Cookie from the streets, although she not trying to go back to jail she knew one if not all of those men were strapped. It was only going to be so long until one of them pulled out their own gun and started shooting.
Sounds like real life family drama to me. Cookie and Luscious still ride for each other when it counts, shoot he just had a man killed for coming at his family beef or not.
She does!
Noooooooooooooooo, please I can take the rape…please let’s not give this man HIV.
Nooooooooooo, don’t speak that into existence.
Those nappers not trying to kill anybody, they want money and Cookie is paying.
Shoot Don and Ryan fine to me…#norunning #nohiding
Do you think the current shows are just as good as the first season or no difference?
True because one minute they are OK and the next minute at each other’s throat.
Lucious knows. That’s why he asked the doctor to examine Hakeem in private. The doctor dropped a hint when he said “I’d like to see if there are any signs of any other kind of abuse.” He put emphasis on “any other kind of abuse.”
That’s prison culture. If an inmate is in prison acting tough, they gang rape him to break him down and rob him of his dignity and manhood. The clues are overwhelming that he was raped.
They made him their bitch. They f*cked him like a woman to break him down psychologically. And it worked judging by how he was behaving afterward. When he pulled the gun on his rapists, he shouted, “Who’s the bitch now?”
Watch the video again. Pause the video and look at the back scratches. A woman’s nails couldn’t do that much damage. That was concrete burn from when he was on his back and they were violating that azz.
They dropped clues in every scene that Hakeem was in.
Do you know any man who has done time in prison? Ask him what happens to new inmates when the lights g out.
Exactly.
You notice he didn’t return any of her calls after he banged her?
He didn’t even stop to wash the blood off his face.
Watch the video again. Pause at the scene that shows his back. A woman’s nails can’t do that much damage. That was concrete burn from him being raped on a concrete floor.
And the rapist was breathing hard in that scene.
So everyone’s gonna randomly jump to the kidnappers gang raping Hakeem. With no evidence whatsoever. Got you.
Let me counter this theory with a new (and more realistic) one.
1) He was not raped l, he was emasculated. He’s like 18 and he’s a “masculine” guy, who was unable to defend himself against a group of other guys.
2) He was most likely beaten and or tortured by the group, not raped. Kidnappers like this very VERY rarely rap people, especially in a case like this.
3) Yes the doctor would “insinuate” they sexually assaulted him. Any kidnapped person would automatically be assumed to have some sexual assault. While Hakeem might have been sexually assaulted, I highly doubt it was rape based on the episode and evidence.
4) Him yelling “I’m straight, I’m straight” is not him yelling “I’m not gay, I’m not gay.” It’s him yelling “I’m fine, I’m ok.” – even though he’s not. He’s clearly suffering post traumatic stress.
BREAK: Just a break away but do we really believe that FOX and Lee are really gonna right a story about how a young teen black kid who’s like 18 just got kidnapped by a male gang and was gang raped and beaten by the group, and who’s ring leader might be sleeping with his mother. All while trying to conquer the rap world and help his new girl group.
5) By the way can we not over analyze Hakeem’s very normal walking pattern. Any one who is beaten would have some slight problems moving there hands, legs, there walk, etc.
6) Also to the comment talking about scratches on Hakeem’s back and butt, let me just say right here that there was nothing shown nor implied that there was scratched or trauma to his lower parts.
7) Him going to confront Anika is him regaining control of his masculinity, however that does not automatically prove he was raped. He was beaten and verbally/psychically humiliated, and didn’t/wasn’t able to fight back or stand up. Doesn’t that sound more reasonable then reading into a slick comment the Dr. made or that quick flashback.
8) If you watched the episode there was a flashback of him with his face being stroked. Again this does not automatically prove he was gang raped. Plus the way the kidnappers were acting around Hakeem in no way indicate they wanted to violate his lower half.
9) Let me use another show as an example: Pretty Little Liars. When Alison was on the run she was attacked and assaulted. She was beaten (stabbed) and she eventually got away. When the doctor was examining him later on, the doctor again insinuates that she might have been sexually violated down there. She wasn’t but again this is a very natural assumption. When Emily, Aria, Hanna, Spencer, Mona, and Sara escaped from being kidnapped for over a month it was again insinuated that they were sexually assaulted. Any one who is kidnapped will automatically be questioned if they were sexually assaulted. But again let’s realize that there’s a difference between being emasculated, sexually assaulted, raped, and gang raped.
10) I’ll finish by saying I’ve studied numerous psychology choruses and am currently working with a psych company also I do have some information in this field. I will say I do believe that he was sexually assaulted but more along the lines of caressing his face and calling him there bitch and things like that. I don’t however believe that non of those gang members violated and inserted anything whatsoever into Hakeem’s lower half or upper half or any half.
Oh crap I was in denial so he was raped smh
I don’t think he was raped if so Lee is doing a bit much. I just decided after this episode though I’m over the show too much going on not enough conclusions everything left in the air it’s getting boring now
I so agree.The first thing I thought of was that he was raped and I won’t be surprised if that story line is expanded.
Come out and deal with reality.Kidnappers don’t just beat people.
There are plenty of men who have been raped.Many of you love an ex con but please do know,that many of them have been raped and they have also been the rapist of other men.There are also men in prison who have not been raped but they adapted to man pvssy: My Source-An uncle of mine,that work at a maximum security prison in Cali.Many come out of prison living with women,but seek men on the low low.
I’m often so amazed at women that NEVER consider the possibility of what their so called “man” was doing in prison…….I’m also amazed at women who never thought about the possibility that men /boys are raped when in prison/juvy.
Exactly because a straight man being raped can certainly mess with his mind.A friend of mine, brother was raped about 3 years ago by men.He was at a club in a Northeastern city.When he departed,he was jumped and brutally raped by 3 guys.He passed out and he was found the next morning butt naked and bleeding from said area.
He is somewhat getting back to himself but not fully. If he goes out socially,he will only go with his girlfriend (soon to be married) or he will go with his two sisters.He does not trust being around men now.He said he can truly understand how rape affects women now.Even though in his case,it was men that raped him as they do women,the violation is the same.
He was whipped, not raped.
He set the whole thing up. Remember they wanted Cookie to pay them to leave them alone. In the end Cookie’s boo recommended that she go ahead and hire the bad guys….and he turns out to be one of them.
The back and forth of the show is getting old. The characters jump back and forth from team-to-team in a single episode. I’m dizzy watching.
Watched it again and again. Where did the subtle clues say, “rape”?
The rape scene? What rape scene? They also didn’t show a pink elephant swoop down and save the day….so that must have happened also. Stop it girl.
Wait … he was gang raped … smh. This post. lol
Me too. I didn’t watch this episode. Can we both share that popcorn. LOL!!
Only when a director’s there to yell “ACTION!”. LOL!
Only when a director’s there to yell “ACTION!”. LOL!
I used to work in a boy’s jail where boys were often sexually assaulted. It does something to their minds. They blank out and they don’t fight back. That’s what Hakeem was referring to when he said he didn’t fight back.
They do
enemigo?!?! Gay goat?!?!
I’m crying!
100
This is kind of why I stopped reading this blog. Reaching!!! Starting to remind me of MTO. Smh