Entertainment Titans Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey were once tighter than a pair of panty hose 2 sizes small. But the media moguls recently parted ways over creative and professional differences.
Rumor has it that Oprah grew tired of the gay direction that Perry was taking all of his shows in.
According to the Daily Mail, “things grew tense” between Oprah and Perry when she suggested he hire new writers to develop his shows with less gay-themed content.
Perry, 46, reportedly blew up at one of their meetings when Oprah, 62, presented market research that proved viewers were being turned off by the rampant homosexuality.
“He told her, ‘Aren’t the shows delivering ratings for the network? Well, then let me do what I do and you can keep your focus group research to yourself,” reveals the source.
The source said Perry’s outburst surprised Oprah and the two stopped communicating with each other.
“Gone were the days of them having long phone conversations and texting late into the night,” said the source.
Things really went south when Oprah found out that Perry was taking the credit for turning Oprah’s Network around from a failing business to a profitable one.
Oprah’s OWN Network was doing poorly in the ratings before Perry stepped in and saved the network by producing hit scripted TV programs.
Now Oprah is resentful that, not only did he save her network from failing, but he’s bragging about it in magazine interviews, such as the December 28, 2015 issue of New York Magazine. The headline read: “The Brand Keeping Oprah in Business.”
“She knows Tyler is a micromanaging control freak and she felt that he was aware of the story’s title and didn’t make sure it was killed,” the source told the Mail.
I did read this somewhere else already but I don’t believe this story.
A case where Money, mad at Money, for making MORE MONEY!!!
To be honest, Tyler needs help writing his shows, because the vast majority of the subject matter makes no sense.
I don’t know if this is true but everyone knows Tyler is gay.
This is interesting especially when she just released a clip of a new show she executive produced that will be on her network. It looked like it was another evening soap opera. Let’s see where this goes!
Everyone but HIM!!
Agreed!!!
Tyler Perry’s shows are one of the few reasons to watch OWN. Prior to HAHN and his other programs, OWN was a fledgling network.
Tyler Perry still has TBS. Oprah should be just as thankful for him as he should be for her, because she damn sure didn’t make him. His films are profitable, as are his tv shows. The stars of his films have offshoots (“It’s A Mann’s World” being one). I hope this story isn’t true.
Perry, 46, reportedly blew up at one of their meetings when Oprah, 62
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So you saying Twyla done sissy-clawed Okra in the face with a fresh hot pink full-set on?
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Her boy Lee, does the same gay shows, so what else is new, Harpo?
I just wish the actors/actresses on HAHN would have changed their clothes some during this season. I think Katherine was the only one that changed her clothes. Everyone else wore the same thing week after week. Wardrobe budget low?
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha..Gaggle…….Bwahahahahahahaha
I was wondering if that was a show or movie
I read reports and it said OWN was hemorrhaging money and that’s why she had to sell her own studio and build in Chicago.
He’s not on her network
He makes will be as much as she say up in his.
I watch If Loving You is Wrong and For Better of For Worse. I don’t know why, but I do. The acting is HORRIBLE. The storylines are so far-fetched. Like I know cops are dirty, but this show takes it to another level. Like a beat cop telling his boss what to do? Folks screwing in the shed and you just crying. And she a SISTER! I truly believe Tyler hate women. He gives them the worst storylines. They are the most miserable, evil, and vindictive.
I JUST got into ILYIW…..but I missed these new episodes. It was kinda good. LOL
oops. Spoiler alert lol.
I don’t know if I believe this.
He saved that network, she knew his chit was gonna have le ghey themes and she cashing them checks …
I watch If loving you is Wrong and The Have’s and the Have Nots. I always chalked the “bad acting” up to the shows being more like his plays, like he’s not using Hollyweird actors. Did you see the preview for next weeks If Loving you is Wrong? The Dirty Cop that’s ordering around the rookie, and telling him not to call for help is NOT the same actor that’s on there next week playing him.
“She knows Tyler is a micromanaging control freak and she felt that he
was aware of the story’s title and didn’t make sure it was killed,” the
source told the Mail.
^^^^^^^^
I am so sorry to damn tell the source. But New York magazine is not letting ANYBODY dictate their content. Up to and including story titles.
Has he ever talked about his momma? Cause that’s usually what it is…
Huh…I haven’t seen the commercials as I bootleg it online…cut the cable cord long ago.
Well, his shows did turn OWN around. I watch all of them. However, if her network was meant to be successful, it would be…with TP or not! God is in control and Oprah can not be underestimated or counted out…
Interesting. I didnt see it.
Both need to get over it. He saved her network with his shows. She offers some (much needed) criticism bc the shows can be slowwww at times.
HAHN storyline drags too much. . If he dont speed it up a bit. Oprah mad because Tyler was running his mouth ?
Ahhh. I only noticed because I think the dirty cop is cute lol. I hated when Soap Opera’s did that back in the day-replaced the actors with someone else. I cut the cable cord…..for less than a month. Now I sit here with cable and complain about nothing being on.
I hit rewind twice on the DVR lol. He was talking to his ex wife, the dispatcher, and it wasn’t the same guy it usually is.
Exactly
Chile better hit TV Muse
Yup I think he hot too with that attitude lol
Don’t Oprah fall out at least once with everyone she “helps” out?
Tyler’s shows on OWN does need better writers ? I swear all the scenes drag and linger too long on those dry shows. ?
Meanwhile, Tyler still has his studio. ??
Oprah isn’t poppin’ anymore, and she needs to face facts. She rode the coat tails of her white, female audience for 25 years. Now that her talk show is over, she realizes they’ve abandoned her, and as such, she is attempting to cater to Black people. Bye.
Ok, I was wrong. The guy hugged up on Esperanza was Julius, and I don’t know who he is. She was telling him he’ll never touch her again, like she always tells Eddie. My bad.
So I guess Lee Daniels filled Tyler’s spot with Oprah……
“Get out of my house/office!”
“Get out of my house/office!”
“Get out!”
They do this dialogue exchange for at least three minutes each episode!
They can keep the wardrobe budget very low for Bennie
He doesn’t need a shirt, ever lol. Did you see Katherine lay into the D.A. the other day? It was good.
@SandrRose The article doesn’t say that they want more writers because the show is “gay” themed. #SprinkleSprinkle
Lol ok
Agreed
I only watch HAHN & ILYIW. Those so called comedies are awfulllllll. He needs new writers for his shows that I do watch. I’m trying to support our folks, but they need improvements.
He needs new writers. Main reason I fell off from watching ?
Entertainment Titans…Or Entertainmet Queens…ONE IN THEE SAME, LOL
Never did watch his comedies except the one with the dude from Jason’s lyric.
Too much unfunny buffoonery. Allen fine a$$ Payne. Yes!
If true Tyler might want to listen cus the haves and the have nots writing, acting,plots, hell the whole dam show is turrble I haven’t watched the other two shows but based on the commercials alone I knew the shit sucked balls
So she asked Tyler to tone down the gay content. I wonder came up with the brilliant idea of the prancing elites?? That chit right there …
I watch For Better or for Worse and the first season was cool ? But every season afterwards was awful! Scenes were dragging on like as if they were ad-libbing or forgot their lines. ?
PREACH! bye harpo…..
? What does a Oxygen show have to do with Oprah and OWN network.The article didn’t say Oprah asked him to tone down gay content.Sandra Rose made that up.
“She knows Tyler is a micromanaging control freak and she felt that he was aware of the story’s title and didn’t make sure it was killed,”
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DOESN’T EVEN SURPRISE ME
Greenleaf is a series about a black megachurch.
Yasss…Bennie
Horrible for sure, but I keep watching.
Dear Tyler…… Love Oprah
Dear Oprah…. Love Tyler…
Noooo. Who is this? Please confirm. ???
I think Oprah’s heyday ended when she left channel 7. She has lost her appeal because the audience she had on ABC is not tuning into OWN.
Lol praying it’s photoshopped…
Agreed, but to a certain extent. I don’t think Tyler’s new shows would fit any other place other than maybe B.E.T. His big hey days are over. He’s not making big profitable movies like he once was, and the plays are all on dvd so he’s not as big as he thinks, and if he leaves OWN, I don’t think he would have the same success. His shows are somewhat cheesy.
Well it’s no secret that a lot of his actors he hired be on the downlow and gay
Yall gonna watch that Passion show from Tyler
Sandra, I don’t believe this because Oprah loves the gay direction and uses it all the time herself. You can’t turn on Where Are They Now without a gay or trans-gendered person’s story being featured. If they did have a fall out, I doubt it was because of a gay theme.
I don’t know what direction he’s taking with HAHN, but he needs to pull back and start over again because the characters are too over the top. I watch both those shows you mentioned, but he does need to writers.
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I remember reading somewhere that his dad was abusive but his mother was very loving to him?
I always knew she would try come back.
I believe of Oprah decided to come back to a talk show she would get her audience back tenfold.
True? but his night-time soap Opera’s did save that “O” network tho. Cause ain’t nobody checking for Oprah’s “Who Gives a Rats ass where They are Now Show”. ?
While I don’t belee this I do know he needs to write better. If he keeps killing the cast of HAHN off there won’t be a cast lol. Every break someone dies.
so true and I don’t even watch any of them because of it…what happened to six little mcghees?
LOL- I came across that episode where 2 people were screwing in a shed right ifo the hubby and the chick’s mom…I said no, this is NOT my cup of tea.
I agree about him making most of the black female characters terrible human beings. I watch HAHN (sometimes) and there’s a mother on there named Veronica is just vile and so is the main character Candace, but she’s more of a don’t start none won’t be none type. But Tyler stays casting hotties like Bennie, so I’m watching.
wow, they wear the same clothes like cartoon characters?
I watched one of the episodes, and I don’t like the fact that their sets look like sets. Even reality shows have better scenery.
Honestly, what Oprah and a lot of other networks need to do is go online for talent. There are quite a few original series on Youtube that I like and even contribute to and some are better than anything on OWN.
They will end up on BET. ..house of pain is on all damn day already. ..
Empire will suffer the same fate if they keep up the gay and transgendered themes. (But don’t tell Lee Daniels that!) I notice that they seem to be veering from gay themes with Jussie(?) falling in love with Sky (Alicia Keys) and stating in a magazine article that he could love a woman. I guess somebody put a bug in his ear that his career would go further if he stopped with the gay pride-ness.
OH I believe it. Look at the egos involved. Especially Perry. He wants to be taken seriously, so that’s why he’s getting acting roles.
Well, O doesn’t need saving now. She’s got AVA on board to produce TV and movies.
She sold her condo in Chicago because she lives in LA. She sold all her property in Chicago – she had about 3 apartments – and she closed Harpo. I think the building was sold for redevelopment.
He’s trying to be taken as a serious actor now. Oprah seems to be teaming up with a lot of gay directors – Lee Daniels and now Tyler. Maybe she should stay away from gay directors/producers and get with some of the bigger producers like Spielberg.
I side with Oprah; she is a good friend to have. Had it been me, I would have just written a Tyler Perry style show myself!! It’s not hard at all. The dialogue is weak and it’s always the same story.
Someone incredible has noted that Ciara’s life is a Tyler Perry film……….. “Dark skinned baby daddy who dogs her out then she finds a nice light skinned Christian man”
And wasnt she the one who pitched a show to Michael “I’m in the League now” Sam? Something is fishy about this story.
LOL, yes it’s like the director falls asleep during the scene.
I believe it happened, because all TV shows do focus groups. And if they get letters and feedback about certain things happening that the public doesn’t like, the studios will step in and make changes. ABC always get complaints about “adult” material in their shows. It affects the number of viewers and the bottom line – money.
The competition for “content” is really really tough these days, esp. with AMZ and HULU, et al bidding up movies and TV shows.
Well, it’s true though. I’m no Tyler fan at all, but he doesn’t write the “good” shows. His writing is evident, be it tv or film. I think he still fails to give the writers credit. U know full well this one man aint writing all these episodes like that. The first thing the showrunner does is hire writers when the network orders episodes. No exec goes back and write 12-24 episodes. U can’t.
They weren’t interesting to me. It’s like the interesting point was there were sextuplets. That’s it.
Yaassss bout time O.Dubb?… I’m sick of it Fr Fr and the story lines gettin outta hand ?… To dam much goin on now.
?????? I caint!!!! Yes CAINT??????
His first horrible tv show. TBS signed a 100 episode deal with him. The show was a shoe in for syndication day one. But yeah, it was a horrible show. God.
How is Chilli’s boyfriend, Brad James, as an actor. He’s pretty as schit.
?….DOA…?? this pic has been truly missed ?
You know what, maybe that’s why Tyler is Mad or Nah? cause I can’t wait for Ava D. to kick out “Queen Sugar” starring Rutina Wesley. ?? he may be trying to sabotage the network with the poor direction of them shows.
Exactly Oprah all about what’s trendy. The hey look I’m gay craze is fading. TP didn’t get the memo though so she checking him.
??? right ?
All dam day ?
I don’t like his shows or his plays.
Rutina Wesley? !!! I love her!!
Like who?
Sometimes I don’t look at Primetime or cable at all. I just stream or look at Youtube b/c there’s a lot of garbage on t.v. Especially the comedies.
Lil Ms DA sure was taken down a notch
U is so ignant!! ?????
Goofy.
Yes he does write all his shows! I saw an interview of him recently and said he wrote 91 scripts..
It’s too bad that Oprah depends on him to keep her network afloat. Networks depend on content and hers is pretty thin. I don’t have cable, but whenever I look at OWN, it’s reruns and reality shows. She really needs to bring sports into the mix, like the other networks.
This is Oprah & Tyler just last week. So those rumors of a rift is COMPLETELY false!!!
Its funny how people get so outraged when they see gay people on tv but dont understand that there are gay people in the world that need to see people gay like themselves on tv .. There may be 10 % gayness on tv and people go off but what about the 90 % that is forced on the gays to watch everybody st8 on tv .. I dont watch every Tyler Perry show but out of all the people on them there are very few open gay players compared to the ton of st8 people on all the shows having sex and hooking up with each other ..
Hmm ok…maybe he resented his mother for staying
I’m Nosey I wanna know where they all AT???
Lol I’m like where Oprah…then OH
That’s what I gathered too, he didn’t talk much about her anymore in other interviews after that. Wikipedia has an interesting story on his early life with his parents, I never knew he was molested by three men, goodness.
OK, I can see your point.
She & Iyanla fell out at one point.
LOL.
Tyler ain’t stupid. Why throw the spoon away when you have a hot bowl of soup. That’s crazy
I read that same article and they must’ve left out the ‘gay’ part because nowhere did it say anything about homosexuality. It stated that O told TP that a focus group said writing could improve with more writers.
I hope this doesn’t sever their close friendship. TP seems like a Type A person who can’t accept constructive criticism. Last season of the HAHN was not so good. It was better this season. The actress who plays Alex in ILYIW cannot act whatsoever!!
Also, the article said TBS refused to renew TP’s contract and that’s when he formed that collaboration with OWN. That answered so many questions for me. I couldn’t figure out why his shows. House of Payne & Mr. Brown, were abruptly cancelled while viewers never knew what happened. Those shows would come on when viewers had no idea when they’d see them again. One year one show’s season just popped up in the middle of summer! Might be why viewership was down.
I don’t think it saved the network. The network had to find viewers and with all those reruns of old shows it couldn’t be done. TP brought in a base. OWN should be very thankful for that though. I caught that network a couple of times before TP and it was all reruns of Dr. Phil, Dateline, etc.
I was wondering too. I think their ratings plummeted.
No, he no longer has TBS. The article that’s quoted in this one said that TBS hired an entire ‘urban’ staff for TP but eventually they didn’t renew his contract. It seemed chaotic to me. There were no seasons. The Paynes and Mr. Brown would just show up at no particular time of the year. One year one of them appeared with new shows in the middle of summer! I wonder if TP couldn’t keep up with all the writing, producing and touring of his plays? That article answered a lot of questions for me because I was wondering why his popular shows abruptly ended!
If TP plans to stay at OWN he should bring those shows there too. Mr. Brown was hilarious. Much better than Love Thy Neighbor on OWN!!!
It was. She laid off 30 people!! It’s also why she left her talk show. However, she didn’t leave soon enough and had other people at the helm of OWN. I don’t know how she thought starting a new network with nothing but re-runs was going to explode? I looked at the station a couple of times and it had absolutely no direction. I saw reruns of Dr. Phil, reruns of Dateline, etc. However, that’s not the reason she sold everything in Chicago. She lives in CA now and wanted all operations close to her.
I don’t know why people keep talking about Oprah’s white audience as if she chose them. Who is primarily home during the day? That’s who the audience will be for any day time show. The Wendy Williams and Steve Harvey shows are probably mostly white too. Oprah’s happened to be primarily white. It’s not like she catered to them specifically. The show carried diverse themes to me.
When she started OWN she had to find a target audience as well and she finally did. Network TV always has to find viewer demographics.
The social worker wore that purple dress the entire season I think. Hahahahaha
Not the Cryer house. I was very impressed. The best sets I’ve ever seen were on Young and the Restless. The Cryer house is comparable to that. I also like the outdoor scenes TP does for the bldgs. and homes–like Hannah’s house.
Tyler Perry did turn that OWN around because her network was garbage showing reruns of other shows that were years old. She better suck it up and let the cash cow do what he do.
What rampant homosexuality?
The only TP show that has an open gay character is Jeffrey on The Have and Have Nots.
And his being gay has had a negative impact on his life.
my aunt was boycotting own for at least the first year because it used to be discovery babies. she was very upset about the newborns being bumped.
oprah thought she was beyond black people. then had to bring in a jive walking man to get ratings. i know she mad.
but oprah is right. most gay shows dont do well. they have to shoe horn them in. so tyler dont push it.
Well to be honest, he did save the network. Nobody is checking for those Super Soul Sundays and those “where are they now?” ish. We need more Iyanla fix my life, deception – stories of betrayal and push up the Greenleafs. Get rid of Love Thy Neighbor and re-vamp the show with Michael Jai and Tasha Smith; those characters are nothing like the movie.
hey TP, the O provided you with a network for your productions and O is about as mainstream as you were going to get, no other network would have put you up front.
it is about time he elevated his audience, he has our attention now, he can see where else he can take us in telling stories, like the next level, so far he has only repeat our family stories and relationships but how about some real art now.
I did not know that-Ava is going to bring real art to the medium. Which I had hoped TP would do when he got to the point of having the financial freedom to produce the things that do not profit highly but are meaningful and necessary, and showcasing the range of the talent available.
YES ??Ava will bring more accomplished actors to her productions. I hope they resolve their differences. I can see Tyler running over to Tameka Raymond’s ex-husband network (BOUNCE). I recall reading somewhere, that Tyler would only do a Madea series if he was hard up. ABC offered 25million and FOX walked away, so Tyler ?wanted more coins and he used the excuse that he wouldn’t have full uncensored direction of the show. I think he’s wanting to strike a deal with Showtime. ?
Did Iyanla “fix” her life?
Two huge egos this was bound to happen!
Whet EYE due? *sniggles in hand*
I didn’t even really read/see it. So you good. But I’ve also missed so much, I have A LOT of catching up to do. A LOT!
I guess Oprah doesn’t know they”fell out” since I just saw them together on his Twitter TL.
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Oprah was kicking it with Tyler Perry today, so I’m going to assume the story is false. He posted the photo on Facebook.
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I damn sho believe. Two super sized egos. Tyler is right to say that he did save her damn network. That network was a piece of crap because those white folk that supported her got mad as shit when she campaigned for Obama! TRUTH!
Bless your heart.
LMAO sexy self. Riding around Atlanta in his Bentley coupe. That’s a sexy man, but hopefully he’s doing projects with depth. Atlanta has enough local or regional artists.
Well the man did save own you can’t dispute that fact Oprah created the monster now she looks stupid to say he didn’t save own
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And the acting in his shows are terrible except for Tika Sumpter. Love Thy Neighbor is corny af and it’s not even funny. The acting in that show is horrible.
Or TV One
Tyler does need to hire other writers for his shows cause his story lines in HAHN, If Love You Is Wrong and Love Thy Neigbor never made sense to me. Love Thy Neighbor is supposed to be a comedy but that show is not funny. It’s cheesy and stupid, and the acting is horrible. Tyler could use some good comedy writers for that show and maybe funnier actors.
Oprah should team up with Ryan Coogler, the director of Creed and Fruitvale Station.
The reason for that is because every episode take place on the same day. Tyler always drag his story lines along. When I watch HAHN, I’m like, get to the point already. It don’t get good until the end of the episode.
Right. All of Tyler’s female characters are always going through drama with men or a single mother
I wish Tyler would start more established Hollywood actors in shows. Local and unknown actors are good for supporting characters but not leading characters. His shows would possibly get nominated for major awards if he just cast established actors.
And the story lines barely make sense
And that reality show with Michael Sam never came out
Oprah needs to do like Lifetime and produce movies cause there’s nothing really to watch on OWN
Who’s the man touching Tyler’s leg? His lover perhaps?
Unlike Sam
I say this all the time when shows get cancelled on major networks, look to the cast. 7/10 the audience don’t know the stars of the show. I completely agree with you that no names can’t carry shows. I think in Tyler’s case, he has built an audience for his brand, so it works (no names starring in shows).
Problem is, no one wants to see him do anything other than Madea. Remember when he tried to play Alex Cross? It bombed.
And, if you watch For Better or Worse, the scenes drag on and on needlessly.
Tyler Perry is a closet homosexual thats why he writes so well about gay people. Thats why hes obsessed about writing about it.
I believe it. But, really who cares?
Tyler Perry dialogue is thought to get through. His scenes last to long. Tyler Perry needs some seriou writing lessons. He is the most successful no talent around, But I’m not mad at hin some people just luck up
Tyler just can’t write that’s a fact.
Well, it is true, he has the highest rated shows on OWN.
Every homosexual person has a straight couple to thank for the existence of their life. Heterosexuality is the mainstream of humanity. Your comments are strange because you say gays have to watch hetero people. I guess their parents are included in that.
Just because 2 people have sex and have a baby does not mean either one or both were heterosexuals. It only means they had sex without protection or the protection failed.
So of course you feel the same way about homosexual sex? All things being even, you should. Anyway, all school children know that human beings are all brought into existence by heterosexual relations. In all of nature, it takes a male and female to reproduce unless the organism is self-dividing, like a worm.