Disney Backlash Grows Over Toddler’s Gator Death

If the signs say “no swimming” then no swimming. The parents are at fault for this

Is Disney really at fault for little Lane’s tragic death, or is selective racism at play?
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This is rhetorical right?

The boy in the gorilla cage was seen yelling and pushing by witnesses saying he wanted to get into the cage. While his momma ignored him and he took it upon himself to jump and crawl through a gate. This little boy was in the “happiest place on earth” chilling with his momma and daddy who were negligent didn’t read the signs and he gets snatched up by a gator. In these cases both sets parents were neglectful and not paying attention. But we all know that the media is gonna spin this ish….

We use to stay at a days in near international blvd in Orlando, every summer when we vacationed. The property had 3 ponds, and you could see the gators.. There was no protective fence or anything. In fact I can remember the playground being near info of the ponds..

This is some bull SMH. If the sign said No Swimming then they shouldn’t have gotten in the water at all. It is Florida for crying out loud. And where is the outrage that 4 or 5 gators were killed and opened up in the search for the baby’s remains??? People be doing too much.

Exactly! This shit been on my mind since the story broke. I’m like wayment! No charges for the white folk, but u was ready to fuk the black couple with NO VASELINE!

I wish I could share this post. There were practically lynch mobs forming for that mother, some of them were on this board. I don’t hear nothing even close directed at the parents in this scenario. I’m over the hypocrisy of it all. KMA ?!

huh?? how you figure?

Please, do elaborate…

Here is the thing: people was screaming for the parents to be charged in the gorilla incident days before we found out they were black. Also, if you go to message boards on other sites, people ARE blaming the parents of this little boy.

Does that sign say no playing or swimming? I’m off this story because I’m so torn on blame. So I’m a hush. Good morning you all

I need a new topic. My position remains the same.

I’m working today.

I am not sure about this alligator story anymore…here’s why…1). they were there to watch the fireworks…so that apparently indicates it was at night 2). a major park..(DISNEY) had signs indicating “no swiming” ….but no signs warnings about aligators…3). at night in a major park, in dark murky water you allow your 2year old to wade 10 ft out? 4).his body was intact…..sooooooooo hypothetically speaking is this the perfect “HTGAWM” story line or what

The sheriff said there were no signs saying there were alligators. I kind of believe his version because what sane parent would let their 2 year old jump in a lagoon if there was a warning….

Yep.?

As always in here, I am confused. No charges were filed against the black people in the zoo thing. The momma or daddy did not go to jail. So why y’all saying how these white people did not get a charge and all of that as if the black people did? Like why y’all gotta make everything about race?! Every damn thing. No matter what it is. Some days it’s annoying as hell. We can’t just focus on the fact that someone’s child is dead? Damn.

black baby vs white one

get some help bruh

yes it did. it just didn’t have the alligator warning sign

Gm.

I’m torn too man. This one I go back and forth on. I also read the kid WAS not in the water. They were on shoreline. Many news outlets reporting THAT too. None of em were in the water in that scenario.

If you don’t get help at Charter. ..

Girl…”they” will not let that happen….white folks being charged, nope! …and they already killed 5 gators…Where is the funkin’ out cry for the gators..

Most upscale Florida homes have screens enclosures around their pools to keep the mosquitos and alligators out.

Charlamagne said ppl only cry about killing animals we dont eat… looks like that is true

Dis?

Negligence has no race. Media wrong tho. Where this dad criminal history at?

BC boo, they were trying to charge the blk parents ..just bc we dont see race that doesn’t mean others dont .

Why the hell would ANYONE wade into murky Florida water? Or ANY murky water?? Dirty and nasty people. I’m from Florida. We know there’s all kinds of creatures in our bodies of water. Gators, snakes, turtles etc. damn even rats and raccoons can swim. You don’t put your child in a body of water that you cannot see to the bottom. What idiots! This baby should be here today.

PETA stans for all animals… edible or otherwise!

I’m from NC where people swim in ponds and off roadside bridges in water that wouldn’t be safe for consumption if you boiled it for 10 days. There are signs up that say don’t swim in this water but they do it anyway. Some of them get sick, some of them have gotten bad infections and others have died.

Does Disney have to give you details on why you need to stay out of the water or do you just need to obey the sign? Maybe they should just change the sign. Growing up when my momma gave me a directice, if I asked questions she asked me why I was back talking her. ‘Go do what I told you to do Bull and stop asking all them dayum questions.’ ?

Well before they do: DONT. I don’t want to hear shit about no damn slavery. Save it. Don’t bother.

hmmmm…

I’m siding with Disney. Its 9:00 at night why is your two year old child playing in 10ft of dirty water alone? The signs said no swimming. That should have been enough of a warning for his parents. His parents negligence is what killed him not the damn gator. Where was everyone else when the child just wandered off? No one noticed he was gone? Why weren’t his older siblings with him? So many questions.

Yes Disney does because the gators don’t just stay in the water. JMO

I’m sorry for visitors, but we floridians know what’s up. Gators are in damn near every body of water here. Florida is a damn swamp. We are in their territory.

The ONLY reason I think race is playing a part is because of how the media dug up the (criminal/past) history of the black man as if that was why the child ended up in the gorilla pen in the first place. The father wasn’t even at the zoo. They vilified this family, but didn’t do it in any other cases where children vs. animal happened, is all. I guess. I think therein lies the outrage for the most part. I could be wrong. Won’t be the first or the last time. IJS

You sound like my momma. She said some of this exact same stuff last night. Said no two year old should be in no damn lake some 9 at night. She was hot.

Where they do dat at?

IDGAF. First thing some people wanna do is blame slavery. News flash: everything in life is not the white mans fault. Learn to take responsibility for your own shit.

Where is the petition to have the parents charged for child neglect? Oops I forgot their white.

It’s because of slavery. You’re welcome. ?

Ass. LOL

I’m on this here blawg seeeeww I don’t know what logic is.

I’m being Dubb.

Ok

The Neuse. Someone up there swimming off New Bern Ave as it turns into Knightdale right now probably. Blacks, whites, and Hispanic

LMBO I heard gator meat is pretty good and tender…

I know.

At night

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3180656/

Sorry but you really can’t compare these two cases. Lane isn’t coming back ever while Isiah is alive and well. Those parents don’t need to be charged with anything. I am sure they are blaming themselves and suffering enough. Those who have lost a child understand this rather than those who have not. When did witch hunts start taking over human decency?

No you did not! You offended me and we are no longer e friends. *stomps feet like Ju* lmfao. If people could answer in a way that was not so damn militant, maybe I would feel different. But your right though.

Florida is a damn swamp. We live in gator territory. At the entry way of Florida, they just need to put a sign that says “you are now entering a damn swamp and the Capitol of gators. Enter at your own risk.”

We would go to the lakes and look at the people swimming in amazement. They have the crabs (ocean ones) you can catch (with a net). I’ve been to the man-made “beaches” in NC. I don’t get in ANYTHING I can’t see through. It’s so many things in that water and people LOVING IT.

it taste like chicken…I had some in New Orleans during Mardi Gard

They from Nebraska… they don’t know no better.

Nutria.

I think the issue is the opposite we should have common decency towards everyone included the parents at the zoo. Dragging up his criminal record and slandering the mum didn’t help the situation at all. There should have been more focus on how to make the exhibit safer

I agree with your mom.

…and coons.

Why are you pretending white folk don’t get down like that? It is nothing new. She still, at the end of the day, gets to see her son and be with him.

Shuckin and dancing a Jig for the man. Lol. Yup. Sounds about right.

I’m not attacking anyone.

I agree with your Mother. I don’t even go into the kitchen with out my niece behind me. Hell when I’m taking a shower she’s in the bathroom with me on her iPad. Sitting waiting and I still peek out to see if shes there. I even talk to her while I’m in there . She’s very intelligent but she’s 2 going on 3 she cries real tears if you tell her you’re not her friend. She still a baby I’d never leave her alone like that.

Yes but I can demand more of others. I don’t have to accept less

I’ve never been. Never had a real desire to go. But now knowing this mess, I’ll go to the one out California. Sorry Flordia. I’m not messing with all of that. Nope.

And that’s OK as well. I personally don’t give self inflicted things thought whether accident or not. In general so I’m indifferent about tragic up top.

I’ve been to the man-made “beaches” in NC
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Where we here in the NC capital get our water from? A man made lake. Falls Lake. Yes it has a beach. Sandlin Beach .

Interesting…Have any conspiracy theorist speculated that maybe he was never snatched by a gator?? Not that I believe that. I breeze over this story cuzz it’s so sad?

I love it there. It’s magical at EVERY age.

I know. I thought most people knew this. The family is from Nebraska, so maybe they didn’t.

Being a native and most of you all clearly not, it is very apparent that there is a lot of ignorance when it comes to Florida. First and foremost we do not have alligator attacks often and in fact since 1973 there has only been 23 and this would be 24 ( This information came from Animal Control), secondly they were not at “the happiest place in the world” as someone put, they were not at the park, the were at a resort at night. So as much as we may want to put the blame on Florida’s ecosystem or Disney even though they had a sign clearly saying do not swim, the blame can only be put on these two idiots we call the parents of the deceased boy and if you ask me something sounds fishy! …….BTW I am new to this blog. Hi everyone!

Give me strength! That child’s body was not intact. Disney PR at work. Disney will settle this rather than suffer more PR damage. There is no excuse for not having the area posted with signs warning of this danger….case closed. What parent could be expected to just know of such a threat? That another family spotted an alligator the week before and got a picture spells doom for Disney. They WILL settle and it will go away.

It really is. Not a relaxing vacation but we love it and go every year. We’re doing it in October this year. Less heat and Halloween there should be amazing.

Hummmm. That’s an interesting theory.

Hello!

But I think I’ve seen your name before, no?

sign said keep your ass out the lake. They should of kept they ass out the lake

Hello!! Nice to see you and welcome. Someone will be around with a welcome packet shortly.

I believe so.

I’m not sure it’s Disney’s “fault” but, they are legally responsible.

The lawyers have already said Disney will have to pay.

Bullshyt…the difference is the first parents are Black and the good YT people went to immediately blaming them while being outraged over the f’ing gorilla. The YT parents got immediate sympathy and will get a hefty check. America at it’s finest!

Amen

Lmao. You on my IG right? Lol. I am right damn there with these crazy kids. As scary as I am, I can’t afford to let the lose out here. Nope. Especially that little one. Dubb will tell you, she is a real trip.

Y tho they had they child in murky water at night??? How is Disney liable?

I also heard they had chairs by the lake as if it was ok to chill there.

PEP I’m so ready. You just don’t know. In pain. And I really just want to see her.

But the blame game would bring a gorilla back?

Hola!

it’s their property.

I don’t blame Disney. I love Disney. Disney Resorts are wonderful too. “Happiest Place on EARTH” btw. Welcome.

sorry but that water was really dirty, i don’t even know why anyone would of put their foot in there. it looked like swamp water.

You have to warn about animals .

Basically….they saying that lil Laine just drowned…Really? they putting that spin on it. So ppl wont b scared and will return. If folks have an image of a baby being eating by a gator at “Disney” you think they gon come the fck back? …

When you go do the Fast Pass its so worth it

I doubt it.

OMG WHY did my mom say that?! Jesus. I told her that sounds just like this episode of Law and Order I saw. But damn it if she ain’t say that. And really, I would not be shocked. People do crazy shit.

IF that makes me a conspiracy theorist then I wear the title proud. I’m not above thinking this was another boy in the forest story…
How you only get scratches from trying to beat an alligator down? How you don’t come back with at least 1/2 a boy?
#justsayin

The lawyers said they didn’t do enough to keep the guest safe and he pointed out the fact they had lawn chairs by the beaches as if to say it was safe to chill there.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/movies-under-the-stars/

Happy Birthday Tupac Amaru Shakur, would have turned 45 today. RIP

You never know. Nothing wrong with asking questions. I’m sure the police are asking the same thing.

Love this comment…and it makes a lot of sense.

That last month is the hardest. Have you tried to move her along? Walking? Boo sexy time loving? Are you dilated? She’s coming, you know these kids like doing things on their time.

Nope…because they already putting a spin on it…oh, the baby simply drowned which looks more like the parents are at fault since, the No Swimming sign were posted . Fck that it was Gators not 1 put several in the damn lake…

You know our people used to wade in the water to get away… how many of us got ate by gators?
Maybe white baby meat is just sweeter – or the gators were >there< with us #powertothepeople

What do you want me to see?

This is FROM the resort website

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/motorized-boats/

Choices include:

Canoes

Motorized Boats

Movie night. Hence the chairs. They have an event out there.

Basically…

But write with your feet…loved it!

I was going to bring up this same analogy. Everytime I ride a roller coaster I secretly hope someone gets their arm bruised up. No one listens.

The parents shouldn’t hve let him in that water. Like I said yesterday, they were not directly by this little angel so once the gator got him it was too late. I will not drag them bc no one should hve to bury their child. Its not natural & as a mom I know I have made many mistakes. Thanks to God my son has not suffered bc of my actions. We are human. The media has treated this accident better than the situation with the gorilla. At the end of the day .. a child is gone…Who gives a fuk abt the color , a baby is gone. The media had no business dragging the blk parents through the mud for a mistake but this is America . Am gone , am mf tired of this.

And eye drops for Pank eye

Why avoid the beaches? If they are advertising them as a perk. Go rent you a canoe. Its a perk of the resort.

Let me look

Maybe white baby meat is just sweeter
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Not if they saying his body was still intact…….and none of the other Gators that had been put down had even sniffed the “meat”. As no contents were in their stomach’s.

1) Have you ever had Pank Eye?
Got it right now – whats up?
2) Do you eat the booty like groceries?
what have you heard?
3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside?
As much as I can as long as I can and I wipe from front to back.
4) Straight, Gay, or Bi?
What have you heard?
5) Kids or naw?
That I claim or all together?
6) Single or naw?
Who’s asking cause maybe…
7) Occupation?
Pimpin’
8) Can you cook or is your food dry as hell?
Depends on my attitude

There is a reasonable expectation of safety at a place like this. The reason there were no signs up about crocs in the water is because it would cause people to not stay at that resort. No swimming, problem is they were not swimming, they were walking along the water. Patrons have a reasonable expectation of safety if there are crocs in the water their should be a sign saying that.

Yes they do need to be specific. Some folks don’t listen……or read well.

Alligators or no alligators, why in the hell is there a loose toddler in the water AT NIGHT (even in the day time)…..not to mention that the water is dirty.*eyeroll* #beigepeople

And if you stand up and happen to fall 50 ft and die that’s your fault.
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?Why did this make me holler? Then in my mind said, but did you die?

9) Do you like white meat or dark meat?

3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside?
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Don’t clean ya asshole. Clean ya WHOLE ass.

If you hang your arms out, they get chopped off and now you have to write with your feet, that too, is your fault.
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I’m saying extra prayers tonight??

Lmao.

I mean realistically this was a freak accident. Check out the CNN article you are more likely to get killed by a cow. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/health/disney-alligator-attack-may-have-been-the-perfect-storm-trnd/index.html

Same here fck that. I listen to anything that I have no control over. Sea, air animals etc. Not my habitat so wtf do I think I can do whatever I want. I ain’t ashamed because my ass is in tact when I get off and hopefully some comedy about who’s arm got clipped ?

I said this yesterday and God knows I didn’t want to mention the skin color but it is so obvious. People react to situations like this based off of that one thing which is sad. Will anyone dig up backgrounds on the parents like they did the other ones? Will this mother be labeled unfit like the other. Clearly this was negligence on these parents part. They knew better than to have lil Lane in that water. Isiah’s mom got distracted for a split second and became the poster child for DFACS but I bet Lane’s parents were taking pictures while he swam in that nasty water thinking it was cute. Yes one family in able to still hold their baby while the other isn’t but people need to be fair. My heart still goes out to them even if I think this could have been prevented.

People are stupid. But to cover your own ass, throw the signs up.

I get that, but that same rationale should be applied to the patrons as well. People should practice some common sense. I don’t go to Benihana and lay my hands on the grill and they don’t even have a sign telling me not to. So I’m damn sure not going to do the exact opposite of what a warning tells me not to.

Why is the classic answer to occupation always a pimp? Why not ho-in’? LOL.

you say loos toddler like its more dangerous than the ‘gator!
LOL

You make me sick

All I want is the coupon???

hi?

I just hollered ???real tears. Reminds me of fire Marshall bill

It would be less folks in that damn lake in a canoe. thats for sure

This story was good as heck. Thanks!!!

…and there we have it.

IMO Disney has a strong case. We already know that:

1) The child was away from the parents for at least 10 feet
2) No swimming signs were posted. ignorance of the law is usually no excuse in a court of law.
3) The family was swimming after dark which contributed to visibility issues.
4) The water debts were too high for a child his age. So even if swimming were permitted, Disney could argue that it was the parents negligence to allow someone that small in 6 ft water. Also was the child wearing any swimming aids?
5). We dont know what all of the witnesses reported to the police. Usually the real truth is in those statements. Such as were the parents being attentive or were they snap chatting?

Having said all that, Disney will settle to make it go away if the parents backgrounds are squeaky clean. If there are any CPS cases, etc.. they may challenge them.

Now, if they were just walking, and not in the water, that’s a different story. There are quite a few conflicting reports on how it initially started.

Its been the same report, they were walking in an inch of water on movie night at the resort( something they surely wouldn’t be able to do if people knew Crocs were that close)

Bwah HA!

STOOPID

new post – snapchat video from club…

Don’t do it unless you are really ready. I believe wholeheartedly that DF is to blame for me dilating.

My ambitionz az a ridah ??

Hi Sandra! Thanks for the correction.

I need a n-i-g-g-a (sings the rest in my head)

#3. People actually clean the inside of there butt holes? I guess….?

I may have to look this up.

The interview I saw today said differently. Disney officials and a family rep.

You are very welcome love.

His death was tragic, but ultimately why was he out so far being so small? Why weren’t they in the water with him?!!

They were smh.

The parents…then too how they miss him in the initial search when he was found 17 yards away from the intial incident?? All those poor gators were killed looking for remains and his whole body was right there in plain sight (sarcasm)

Tried a bidet before…feels awesome!

Well we also have a Jeanie from the block on here as well. She’s a regular too.

I’m still planning my Disney trip so…

I swear I was going to post this and lo, and behold, there were 3 callers ahead of Jimmianna. ?

I’m sorry. This was hilarious

We went for Christmas. It is beautiful, but everyone and their granny is there during Christmas time. Everyone thinks that no one else would want to go for the holiday, so everyone ends up there at the same time. Only good thing, the sun doesn’t bake you to death.

Basically, it does. You can’t step foot down there without seeing…gator teeth, gator, boots, gator coat, gator soup, cajun gator, gator tours, gator pictures…hayle, the dayum mascot is, you guessed it, a gator. I feel like Bubba. We got gator shrimp, gator teeth, gator gator…

They said the water came up to his ankle which I don’t consider to be swimming….the point is an alligator sign should have been put up and they probably would not have been near the water….alligators go on land too so why would they have fireworks in an area that has alligators ….

Exactly… This pisses me off… Euthanized when there were no swimming signs…there’s a race war going on in America and it’s disgusting.

The father a hero for fighting the alligator…he should’ve gave his life to save his child’s.

They said the water went to his ankle…alligators roam on water and land…the people on the sand were at risk….they should have put a sign up but it’s all about the money

I don’t see why they had to give an alligator disclaimer when the sign prohibited people of from going in the water. Alligators move pretty slow on land, you would have to be knocked out or dead get attacked by on land. Either way it’s sad case for the little guy.

Cause alligators aren’t endangered

Did the zoo have a sign up warning a child might fall in? White folks want to stand up for the parents that PURPOSELY took their eyes off their two year old and let him go in WATER by himself unattended…which is dangerous without a alligator involved. But want to demand the black mother to be arrested, kids taken away, call her every name in the book, pull up the fathers past because she turned around one minute and her son wandered off the next minute. White people hypocrites.

Really? That misses the point entirely. Had Disney reacted appropriately to the alligator pics from the week before, this in all likelihood would not have happened.

I’M STARTING TO SEE THIS AS A BLATANT AND IN-YOUR-FACE RESPONSE TO THE HARAMBE SITUATION…BLACK CHILD VS WHITE CHILD. SMDH

Whoever “the lawyers” are, there are 10 more who will say the complete opposite and will argue the same reasons that have been brought up on this board. THAT’S a lawyer’s job to argue. Right or wrong, neither side would want to drag it along. Pay, no admission of guilt, and move along.

People die at Disney. Folks get on rides and die. Folks get off rides and die. Some have medical conditions, some don’t. Some do stupid or questionable things and die. Hayle, I remember Goofy got ran over by one of the princesses and her float. You hear rumors about the kids and the shows. Disney is still here.

9 – Neither, I’m pescatarian

the first write up on this sight that i completely agree with! ??????

SPEAK!

Smh it’s the parents but folks act like this is new in Ammerikka if she black attack her,but everyone has sympathy for this family who was negligent. All the pics I have seen said no swimming.

I’m too damn through.

I might have to suck it up *giggles* and try it tonight.

1) Have you ever had Pank Eye? AS A BABE IN SWADDLING CLOTH(E)S…WELL SMALL CHILD ANYWAY
2) Do you eat the booty like groceries? MEH.
3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside? IS THIS A RHETORICAL QUESTION?
4) Straight, Gay, or Bi? FLATLINED
5) Kids or naw? 3 LOWS
6) Single or naw? IT’S COMPLICATED
7) Occupation? JUST STEPPED OUT ON FAITH
8) Can you cook or is your food dry as hell? DEPENDS ON MY MOOD…

And it is…it’s surrounded by woodlands and water. It’s a beautiful place, and yes, it is grand. We frequent Florida (have fam and time share there), Disney (have fam there, too), the resorts and grounds a lot. I just personally never have had a desire to get in any body of water (outside of a pool, the ocean and gulf) in Florida…they have gators.

I don’t know. It’s Florida. I expect to see a gator at Wal-Mart. ?

Same thing my friend and I were discussing earlier here at work. I would like to think people travelling to FL know it’s the gator state, amongst the other animals/reptiles you mentioned above. And if they didn’t know, then I would like to think most travelers would know to do their research prior to travelling to a state/country they are not familiar with. Not only familiarize yourself with the types of creatures in said state, but laws since they are different everywhere you go. Common sense doesn’t seem to be so common anymore.

I did not follow the rules. Had my hands up. I was in Kemah and got my sh!t shook so bad on that tiny wooden coaster…

Paramount Theme park…hands inside the coaster.

Follow directions. ?

They are “threatened” though. A step above endangered.

LOVES the dark meat.LOVES the dark meat.

Should all animals be listed? Should the state make all outdoor activities to list the dangers of what could be in the air, on the land, and in the water. It’s Florida. They have gators, snakes, lizards…and ROACHES! Those are NOT waterbugs ?

I do understand your point of view.

one could also argue that the zoo didn’t have proper deterents from getting into their enclosures. I would think it should be terribly difficult for a 3-year old to climb into a gorilla pit. All things being equal, shouldn’t people have been angrier at the zoo and their lack of proper enclosures more so than at the child’s mother – the same way that people are mad at Disney for their lack of signs? Both the zoo and the resort are child friendly environments where parents expect a modicum of safety.

I think we all feel badly for this family and what happened to their son but the way that it’s being handled, even if the situations are somewhat different, is glaring and staggering to me.

I swear I just heard the Mahalia Jackson/Tony Toni Tone remix in my head.

I was not there but I will say: BOTH.

Them being white does make a difference in how the family is being treated after the incident. I agree that both families were at fault as far as negligence is concerned though. No one is digging into the white family’s irrelevant criminal history. It’s different whether we choose to acknowledge it or not.

Disney is at fault. Sorry. You are a billion dollar theme park. All waters need to be checked for gators. And then they pulled out 6 gators so you not monitoring this man made lagoon the gators are swimming In. You can avoid a baby falling over into a damn gorilla cage. But a child waddling in water. Very innocent b

WE are not all the Same………….NOT,… foolishness

Sandra IS BEING FAR from heartless.
It is a very good question because Disney DID HAVE UP SIGNS STATING, “STAY OUT OF THE WATER.”
So, Disney HAD to specifically state because of alligators, when Disney HAS clear signs saying “STAY OUT.”
And the 2 year old had gone 10 feet INTO the water.
Let us not have a double standard.

Just wrote something to this effect.
People love to put on rose colored glasses for everyone but Blacks.

It was man made so no one expected a gator to be in anything man made.

Uh…? This is rare, but, no but, oddly, I am at a loss for words.

Prices will probably drop due to bad publicity. Might be the best time to buy that vacation

Last time I checked, we were all humans. Forgive me I didn’t realize I was mistaken.

They shouldn’t be charged. I don’t think anyone wants to drag this family through the.mud after all they have gone through. We just want the same courtesy when the tragedy happens to us.

And a “no swimming” sign does not qualify for a “Do not go near the water” or a warning sign for gators.

why waste time…lol

I have read them repeatedly. This is a quote from the article

‘The boy was standing at the edge of the lake with his feet in the water when the alligator grabbed him, Orange County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Rose Silva said Wednesday.’

“A lifeguard said the boy waded 10 feet out into the murky lagoon water.”
Reading what IS written and what you want it to say are two different things.
Deal with it!

Alligators are all over Florida. That lagoon is connected to lake. There is no way for Disney to know if and when an alligator will enter those waters. Parents are supposed to be smarter than their children.

No, that’s not what I am saying at all. My point is that neither family’s criminal history was relevant to their case and therefore should never have been made into a news story or major issue. My other point is that we as a society are quick to try to punish black people for things that white people would get an automatic pass for, in this case neglectful parenting. I don’t dislike white people at all, I’m just very aware of how differently we are treated in this country and how comfortable most people are with the glaring distinctions.

Your reponse seems to be more of she anchorned him over the fence. But whateves, I am sure the death threats the family rec’vd were fair.

That would be like trying to keep wild geese out of a zoo….not gonna happen. Gators are all over Florida (like stated below). I grew up living down the street from Florida field in Gainesville, guess what……there were gators there. There is no controlling where they live, it would be a full time job with overtime included.

Too soon. ?

Very well said. I agree

The very fact that they sought out the Black father’s criminal history is what’s problematic. The Black father, from what I heard, wasn’t even at the zoo with his family. Checking the criminal history of either family wasn’t necessary.

I’m sad to say that my mind went here as well. I hope that is not the case. I also don’t know much about gator hunting habits so I can’t speculate too much about that. Something just doesn’t mesh for me quite yet. Need more information.

Awww sookie. I swear my O’s were more explosive (x10) when I was pregnant.

Yaaaaaas!

~sighs like Loretta Divine when she saw Gregory Hines in ‘Waiting to Exhale’~

EXACTLY, people are so shallow and simple.

Completely ironic how our babies were used for “alligator bait”. I am in no way insensitive, but no swimming means just that. You would not have to give me an explanation why. At first they said a foot of water,now at his ankles…naw. At ankles you would have seen the gator. A foot of water would incriminate the parents. Ankle depth for a 2 year old ,they want you to imagine an innocent ,bonding family moment. Articles and reports are written to cause psychological response to certain words and word play.

Dark, murky water too and the baby was in water at 10 ft depth. None of this is hitting my ears right. None of it.

You found info that was offered up by linkedin and the dad’s employer. All subjective. Look where he/they don’t want you to. But that would be heartless – kind of like pulling up the ancient criminal history of a man whose baby was in a very dangerous situation for just under 20 minutes. But maybe you’re right it’s no to be compared.

It goes against natural parental instinct.

The gators go where they want….I don’t think Disney can control that. It is Central Florida; there are gators everywhere. If you see a body of water you should assume a gator might be in the water. It’s just the way it is down here.

Me and you are >>>right here<<<

Well said Spidey. Calling for Torandos and Hail here…but it feels great outside. Perfect storm weather.

There not from down there….I have coyotes, rabbits, skunks, bobcats, raccoons, and every now and then a bear sighting but no alligator…people adapt to what they are use to….they knew there were aligators due to sighting by there employees and they failed to put up signs because they knew it would hurt the business bottom line….if you put up no swimming why not “alligator sighting”…..because the tried to hide it…..

Thank you ??? they can read. They purposely went in the water. Aligators are everywhere in FL. No one knows how long that gator was in the water, especially if it was 10 ft. Oh the joys of being a white family in Amerikkka. ?? SMH

I think a lot of kids are raising themselves now days, and the ones that aren’t are being raised by worthless trash. My next door neighbors kids come in my driveway, ride their bikes in it, the teenager the other morning stopped in my driveway and took clothes off that he had on over other clothes, and their mom had the audacity to come in my driveway one day and start sweeping the rock salt away! Her kids kept touching it. I went back out and put tons more down. When I was a kid, I would never play on someone else’s property.

We have a hard enough time keeping up with the wild in our own yards but I pay thousands of dollars to be killed by a gator at a resort that was suppose to be safe for kids

A gator sign goes a long way…..bottom line….My family members from out of town that visit me didn’t know I had coyotes in my yard but once they were notified they took caution…..came into my home before it got too dark….if I didn’t notify them how would they have known

But it connects to an open body of water, and DW never put up any barriers blocking the lake from their man made lagoon.

No home training.

Man made doesn’t matter. The parents are at fault all the way. No one will convince me dad was in that water with that boy. The boy didn’t need to be in that water at 9:30 at night. He should have been asleep, and there are 635 pools they could have put their dusty feet in.

See now the name calling is unnecessary…LOL What part of it’s Florida don’t you understand? We all know he wasn’t swimming, but he wasn’t supposed to be in the water period; idiot.

He didn’t go in the water and drown….he drowned because an alligator took him under….now tell me is the no swimming sign, live alligators, or both would have been important….be honest

They go on land too….

That’s the story I keep reading, and it specifically says”Mom and dad ran into the water to try and save the boy. Dad tried to wrestle his son away from the gator and failed. He has some scratches.” Why would you have a 4 year old in a play pen, and not the 2 year old? Those parent’s weren’t near that boy at all. I personally think they were watching the movie and not him. He should have been in the playpen with the 4 year old. Dad has “scratches”? SMH.

Your resort is over populated with alligators and you didn’t think that it was important to notify your guest….if it was a shark that’s one thing but alligator do land and water….but you made sure you got paid….

The parents are clearly at fault here, but we all know why there was no outcry, because the other parents were black. Just calling a spade a spade! SMH!

They killed 5 and found 12 more lurking near resort….sounds like a problem to me…

Yea it’s a problem…it’s not like they are located in Central Fl…..wait yes they are located in Central Florida….never mind.

Listen
What if that situation never happened where the little black boy fell into the cage/ climbed into the cage but something else tragic happened?
Someone snatched him God forbid?
I would still be angry at the parent because parents are too loose with their children now a days
Not as angry as people were to give the mom jail time but angry nonetheless

Same thing in this situation with the little white boy
As a parent I would not let my 2 year old dangle his feet out in a lake but like I said a gator snatched the child- child didnt fall in – which changes things up
But it is wake up call to parents
keep an eye on your children
Hold your children hands when you are crossing the street with them
And other things that parents do that tick me off

The sign can say no swimming but didn’t warn about gators in that area, gators are amphibians and that gator snatched him while he was standing next to the water…

I am asking Jesus to not be simply a fence, but to just be a whole Moat and drawbridge around them!! CTHU

He wasn’t swimming tho, and bottom line this baby died. The last image these parents have of their son is seeing him in that gators mouth…

Let them go on down Florida with their misconception!! Best wishes!!

Imma just leave this here……HOME OF THE FLORIDA GATORS!!!

They named a fottball team after the thing……that was a clue!!

And

Uhhm, the little boy’s life clearly was more valuable because they killed the gorilla. This has nothing to do with race. The boy fell into the gorilla enclosure because as witnesses said his mom was on her phone. This baby was snatched near the water which his parents saw and jumped in to try and save him. There were no signs warning about gators and we’ve all been to the zoo and know there are signs that say do not get too close to or hang on the ledge. Completely diff factors.

The parents were watching him they saw him get snatched and they jumped in there after him

I dont understand why adults need a sign in order to know better?
Lets use some initiative and common sense here:
1)It was late- probably too late to be around open water
2)10 feet at night is extremely too far. I don’t even let my six year old walk that far behind me during the day.
3)Swimming or wading- CLOSE supervision is necessary
4)Uhm he’s 2.
5)Maybe it’s just me, but when I see a sign that say’s no swimming, I don’t get in the water at all, but that’s just me.

Still, I don’t wish such a tragedy on any parent, regardless of their race so a part of me wishes this debate would end. It’s hell on them already. Parents slip up and unfortunately it can have grave consequences. Half of the people judging them probably still leave their children in the car when they pump gas lol. Disney will still come out the pocket though. Regardless of who’s fault it is.

But we’ve all been to the zoo and know there are signs that warn us about getting too close to the enclosures. However, the zoo wasn’t prepared properly in the event that someone did fall in

The parents did jump in and try to save him tho but the gator retreated underwater…

This is apples and oranges. One child was killed, the other was not. Big difference.

I have no idea at sll. I wish someone would enlighten me.

Where are the Protest where are the calls for the parents to lose their jobs where are the calls for background checks where are the CPS investigations this child lost his life along with a few alligators this family is only getting sympathy not getting judged for not paying attention to their 2 year old who should have been sleeping at that time anyway

Seems everyone is missing 3 key words “completely intact body”. A gator can swallow a toddler whole. The gator dragged the baby away but didn’t eat it? The body is mangled or missing parts? What say you is the cause of death?

That’s what I said ppl keep saying the parents are to blame but aren’t they entitled to a degree of safety in or out of the water on resort property not just a No swimming sign Tell me point blank about gators don’t let me have to guess about what a sign means or how much danger I’m in being in an inch of water

basically telling you to stay out of the water? How about point blank saying stay out of the water Why do they have to play a guessing game?

Okay. We were tearing up the gorilla incident mother when we thought she was white. I honestly feel that the No Swimming signs mean just that…no swimming. It could indicate –no swimming because there wasn’t a lifeguard. The signs should warn about dangerous live animals such as alligators. Looking at pictures of that beautiful resort, Id never think alligators were swarming through the water.

You know that but not visitors.

That’s how I feel too. I’m not being insensitive but there’s a sign. Let’s be honest ppl would still go in that water if they had a gator sign up. We see ppl do dumb stuff everyday.

Who doesn’t know Florida is gator world? I’ve never been to Florida, I know that. Play or swim? Play= Don’t go in water( not even a toe).

The official story is they were having out door movie night. Which to me that’s understandable reason why you had the kids out late, but why let him go down near or into that water. The movie wasn’t being on the very edge of the lagoon.

Seriously! They should of even had some type of fence….or something!

For real, because I didn’t know it was like that! Not EVERY BODY OF WATER! Learn something new every day…

Not the one your referring to.

You know what…. Folks can get mad at Disney and blame Disney…. But when it was that damn gorilla it was alllllll the parents fault…. Mayne Foh….. Over it…. I’m sure somebody has said this but hell I said it again…..

Agreed. If they were at the mall and someone snatched the kid I’d be asking where the hel! his mother was at the time too.

Yassss, and clears the air of toxins

“Looking at pictures of that beautiful resort, Id never think alligators were swarming through the water.”

I’m sorry but I’ve lived in Florida my whole life, been to Disney probably a dozen times and this made me laugh my azz off. Disney is built on a swamp. It LITERALLY is a swampland lol. Most of Florida is anyway. I have new compassion for tourists because I never knew people didn’t know these things.

It is not right to make this about race. I would think a sign stating “No swimming” is more the equivalent of “No lifeguard on duty” (to save you from drowning if you get too far out) than of “Beware of alligators”. If the toddler was 10 feet out by himself that is definitely a parental concern. (However, since the life guard wasn’t even there when it happened his comments mean absolutely nothing.) If he was wading along the shore with a parent nearby watching him that is completely different. Hard to believe the dad could have gotten to the alligator if he was that far away from his child as alligators are really, really fast. I think in retrospect Disney would have been better off sodding the areas instead of making lagoons that no one can go near. The bottom line for me though is this: Had there been “Beware of alligators” signage I think the parents would have picked another safer place to relax with their children. The fact that dad tried to rescue his child by fighting with an alligator never expecting such a thing to happen compared to a mother that knew her child had already attempted this errant behavior and was well aware that there was a gorilla in the area and still didn’t restrain him after that is another story completely, especially when you factor in that that mom also didn’t attempt to rescue the child from the gorilla, yet her child lived. That family was damn lucky. The other family had no such luck. It’s not a black or white thing. It’s a common sense thing. The gorilla mom had a warning from her own child that he was capable of getting around the barriers that were set to keep people away from the gorilla. No such barrier was set up at Disney World. Other than the fact that parents were with their children in both instances they are two completely didn’t situations. Quit trying to make it about race!

The lifeguard on duty was for wadding/splash pool. NOT THE LAGOON, where it says no swimming. PERIOD.

“Jennifer Venditti Roye tells PEOPLE she is sharing the photos because she wants to stop the online parent-shaming of Lane’s mom and dad. Her point is that she had no reason to believe it was dangerous for her son to wade into a few inches of water, despite the “No Swimming” signs.”

He should Not have been in Lagoon, it is Disney fault for not having singage about alligators there. However home owners come home to alligators to their homes and guees whos in the pool….alligators.

The zoo was open for normal business hours and child did what he was Not supposed to do. The mom was stopped from going into moat, as their were dozen of people to restrain her, not at 930pm in the evening.

Unforunately the child is dead, and that is tragic and heartbreaking. He should not have been been in lagoon. victim shaming of mom at zoo was about race, its all always about race. Take Care

Because that’s what no swimming means. Stay out of the water. It doesn’t matter if you’re walking or wading. No swimming means stay out of the water because there may be something in the water.

Yep he wasn’t swimming; he was walking, but he should not have been in the water. There was a sign.

Nobody wants play a guessing game when it comes to their safety If there are gators Say that !! & the resort didn’t say that because they wanted to make money & not scare the tourists & that’s exactly why they’re 100% liable

Of course there are gators in FL but if these tourists from out of state were aware that a private lagoon on resort property had gators in it do you think they would have gone anywhere near it? No! Disney is liable & they are gonna pay big time point blank

That’s not true. The reason this had gators was cuz this man made area for this resort was connected to a canal that’s how gators got in, if theyou had blocked it off there wouldn’t b gators and they wouldn’t need signs, so you’re logic of everywhere in Florida has gators is meaningless in that scenario. Some of disney staff has even said they’ve seen gators on occasion, therfore, you need signs.

The sign said no swimming, not no walking in ankle deep water. There were other families and other kids there it wasn’t jus his family. You make it seem as if his family was somewhere they shouldn’t have been at night and that’s not the case. The resort was doing a movie night near the water for the families that’s y they were out there at that time.

“Is Disney really at fault for little Lane’s tragic death, or is it his parents’ fault for ignoring the signs?”

It IS his parents fault. NO SWIMMING means no swimming for whatever reason! People are so caught up in “doing what I want to do no matter what” that they lose all common sense. Those signs weren’t there for nothing and alligator don’t just haphazardly attack at all times.

Parents of ALL COLOR: Look back at your parents and grandparents. Old School parenting taught us sense and kept us alive!

LOL why are you yelling? It’s just a conversation. So last time; because you are getting upset and it’s not that serious. No swimming means stay out of the water. Even your feet, fingers, toes, arms, elbows, hair, your a$$….just stay out of the water. We can agree to disagree…..LOL

Now I am being insensitive? Okay. I have no reason to defend Disney; I don’t even visit Disney. But again if you see a sign in Florida that says no swimming you should stay out of the water. That’s what it is. And stop yelling; it’s not that serious.

You’re not going to get me to understand your point. You want to make excuses for people who don’t/won’t follow basic rules. No need to discuss it anymore; again we agree to disagree.

Again caps doesn’t always mean yelling its for you to focus on a major point…

No it means you’re yelling…

I’m SO WEAK at the name change. LMAOOOO

Oh you were there? I didn’t know that. You should have said that from the beginning. Where is the link of the Disney employees saying this?

I don’t have to know you; it’s not about knowing you.

Yes; where is the link for these stories

but that’s not what happened…I didn’t focus on any point because you were yelling.

Didn’t see any direct quotes from Disney employees and that’s probably because Disney will not allow them to speak on it until the court case is over or the settlement is reached.

That very well may be but that info is from staff no tourists or visitors would know that. Actually I think they need that info before a settlement because that’ll determine if Disney had knowledge and is at fault

even thou the charges was drop with the black family but look what they had to go through and even thou it was not death of a young one the outcry of negative comments and meme was all around the post ,comments, but this similar situation is no different but yes with a different response i’m shocked, confused, hurt that this America I call home has so many people that blatantly show racism and favoritism. if you are a parent you know all small kids are curious and will get away in a blink of a eye.no one is at fault it was a accident plain and simple. god keep and cover this family in their time of need. rip lil angel.

guess the kid waded in the water. really…. there a signs that say do not swim….. GTFOH.

Ah! Yes! But why didn’t the gator eat him? Maybe he was too sweet.

Perhaps it’s because I live in Orlando. I would hope anyone coming to Orlando/Florida understands that we have gators. Again they are everywhere; there is a video of one walking around on a golf course. I had to drive around one that was sun bathing in the street one time. They are everywhere down here….Yes I believe people should always assume there is a gator in any body of water in Florida…it’s better to err on the safe side.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/17/disney-ignored-gator-problem-to-keep-high-end-guests-happy-report/