Nate Parker‘s scandal-plagued movie The Birth of a Nation is expected to flop at the box office this weekend. The slavery movie opened nationwide in 2,100 theaters on Friday.
The movie was a shoe-in for an Academy Award, but the Oscar hopes will end in disaster for the film’s troubled star, writer and director.
According to the Hollywood Reporter, media Guru Oprah Winfrey and her bestie Gayle King were among the first to view the film at a private screening in January.
Winfrey was so excited about the film’s Oscar chances that she and King sent Parker a Feb. 1 Instagram video congratulating him.
But the excitement was short lived.
By August, news reports were circulating about the rape charges involving Parker and Birth of a Nation co-writer, Jean Celestin.
The news was damning, but it was further complicated when the unidentified victim killed herself.
At first Winfrey was sympathetic to Parker’s plight. She tried to give him helpful suggestions.
Sources tell Hollywoodreporter.com that Winfrey suggested Parker sit down with King to discuss the rape case on her CBS talk show.
But Parker declined.
He was reportedly upset that the decades old rape case had become an issue — even though he attempted to play the victim by claiming he was falsely accused during a planned college tour to promote the film. The college tour was abruptly cancelled after the scandal careened out of control on social media.
Parker ignored Winfrey’s advice to be open and honest about the rape incident. Instead, he appeared as a guest on daytime talk shows where he repeatedly played the victim.
In an interview on Good Morning America this week, co-host Robin Roberts asked Parker about his glaring lack of empathy for his victim.
Parker argued arrogantly, “I was falsely accused, I was proven innocent and I’m not going to apologize for that.”
Director Judd Apatow said Parker missed his opportunity to address the rape culture that exists on college campuses.
“He has an opportunity to teach young men about the meaning of consent,” Apatow tweeted on Oct. 5. “He could do something that would help so many people.”
Executives for Fox Searchlight, which paid a record $17.5 million for the rights to distribute Birth of a Nation, are said to be frustrated over Parker’s arrogance and unwillingness to be humble.
The movie studio paid a boatload of money to public-relations consultants to do damage control. They gave Parker media training and helped him send the right message about sexual violence. But Parker ignored their advice as soon as the cameras started rolling.
“They gave him talking points and he just didn’t execute,” says an industry veteran.
Parker’s narcissism was on full display in an interview with Steve Harvey. Once again, Parker blamed others for his problems.
“What are these journalists trying to do?” he whined to Harvey. “Do they care about [me]?”
Hollywood insiders were stunned at Parker’s pompous attitude.
“You watch the Steve Harvey thing — you can’t find a more softball situation — and [Parker] is just simmering,” said a source close to the movie project.
Birth of Nation is on track for a soft opening of about $10 million or less in ticket sales this weekend.
Insiders say the movie will not recoup the budget the studio poured into making the film. ‘Nation’ will just barely make back Fox Searchlight’s initial $17.5 million investment.
Like typical narcissists, Parker has only himself to blame for his spectacular downfall.
“He will not have an easy time,” says a veteran producer. “He’s clearly a vital filmmaking voice. It’s maddening to watch it go so wrong. No one is hiring him at the moment. If they’re going to pay $17.5 million, you’ve got to do everything right.”
I’m going to be early vote in the morning and see this in the afternoon.
his head is shaped like a box and he’s married to an “other” while starring in a slave pic.? i’ll catch this on demand. i can wait.
He should have listened to Oprah oh well.
Good lord what a dumbass. Sad how so many black people in positions like his squander their opportunities in such a mind numbingly dumb fashion.
I doubt a black woman, let alone Oprah told him to say he raped someone if he didn’t do it.
Sandra, you left us in that light skin post for dead, but you got time to update this.
Goodnight and go grab some Pussy like your Hero Trump
What amazes me is the black women who rushed to the theater to support this asshole who cares so little for black women that he wouldn’t even marry one of them.
The end. Ouch
Go grab some pu$$y
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Olive Juice??
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Hollywood is hypocritical. No one boycotted Woody Allen films when he was accused of being a child molester. . . IJS. Theverybody message of this film is more important than things that have gone on in the director’s personal life 10 years ago
Clearly she thinks readers are hood rats that can separate their thinking…
#yeptalmboutyewintheethirdperson
This situation should be a cautionary tale for everyone involved. Guilty or innocent you can’t run from your past.
Others in entertainment do it ALL THE TIME.
Sandra you sure are writing a lot of articles and calling people narcissists. Have you looked at the man in your mirror?
Did you really expect an unrepentant rapist narcissist to take advice that would potentially make him look bad in the public eye?
Here’s a clown who can’t even apologize for what he did, but we expect him to tell Nat Turner’s story. Since when is Nate Parker a historian? His movie is a piece of fiction with zero historical facts.
No disrespect, but this story is about a black slave hero!!!! Separate the message from the messenger. Thus country needs to be reminded of what black union , leadership and organized revolutionary thinking looks like
Having a successful movie doesn’t mean your not still running. Sleepless nights, drugs, and so on. Ask Robin Williams, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Heath Leadger
Nat Turner’s story as told by a rapist??? So you don’t care if the movie is a piece of fiction based on Nate Parker’s imagination? Thank God most people with a conscience wouldn’t pay a dime to see this flop movie.
Who are you calling a man? Are you new here?
TRUTH!! ?
I prefer not to get my messages from gang banging rapists who refuse to apologize for their actions.
Go back to sleep, hun. 2 men who were in the room said he invited them to rape the woman.
Was his victim a Becky?
But were they being confronted with it publicly? Robin, Phillip, even Heath all created a collective gasp when they passed. Whereas someone like Anna Nicole was always the face of tabloid Culture. In fact I remember when news hit she was rushed to the hospital…Idiots like Perez and that loser at Dlist made fun of her…Here we go again read the headlines…That they quickly edited to say RIP. The media refuses to let this man live. Many of the reasons they refuse to do so are obvious…
I was talking about human beings not rich or poor or white or black. Your past is always there. If you have demons they will come out one way or another. If you watch him discuss it there is clearly something there he is dealing with. He said hisself he felt morally wrong. And I don’t think for one minute that girls death doesn’t haunt this brother. But I prey for the brother cause I don’t think he is a evil person he just made a mistake that’s not going to go away cause you did a BET interview .
EVERYONE GO SEE THIS FILM, I DID AND IT WAS EPIC!???????
Yup
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And this coming from the Black woman who continually bashes the Black First Family at every opportunity she gets. Not even sparing the kids. Typical of every right winger. Love to play the Black role when it’s convenient…Parker probably cares about Black women as little as…Well, someone like you. That’s cool. The film is about Nat Turner, not Nate Parker. Empire is on Rupert Murdoch’s network…Notorious for his anti negroe sentiments. And? I support Empire because it’s a Black show! What about you???
Thank you!!???????????
Lmao????
And he married his daughter. Gross.????
PREACH!!! Give it to her. SandraRose is such a hypocrite. Call her out on her crap!
Exactly what the “they” meant to happen is what’s happening. Wanna distract them from their own benefit? Throw out a red herring. Throw out the myth of the angry, violent, perverse black man. Works 10 times out of 9. (#Beyoncemath) It works even better if he’s darker skinned. Innocent until PROVEN guilty, unless you’re a POC. Word to Roethlisberger, Allen, Brock Turner and many more.
I shall give you an outline of action-but before that I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy is stronger than adulation, respect, or admiration.
The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don’t forget you must pitch the old Black male vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your white servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us.
-Willie Lynch letter
As much as I think Nate Parker is scum Judd Apatow is a hypocrite he seems only to be concerned about sexual predators when they are black i.e Cosby and now Nate not a word about that pedo daughter marrying Woody Allen.
Cosby doesnt get much sympathy from me either but his deeds were the biz worse kept secret but if you look at the timing he was the sacrificial lamb they gave up to take the heat off Woody Allen who came under great pressure from former allies in the media when his incest allegations resurfaced within days the story switched From Allen to Cosby
Anyhoo Nate needs to stop talking like Now …turd
Chile…
DOA??
I saw it last night. Save your coins. It was no 12 yrs a slave. They white washed Nat Turner. It’s was inaccurate. Some parts were emotional but it fell flat for me.
Nate Parker got his 17 mil out the deal he’s good. I wasn’t going to see it anyways I seen enough slave movies in the 80’s and I can’t do it anymore.
The man was acquitted. That’s a pertinent fact that should not be ignored. Why should he appologize for his innocence? If anything, he’s owed an apology for being falsely accused and his roommate’s conviction was overturned as well. You need to stop misleading your readers. He was not arrogant on the Steve Harvey show and expressed sorrow for what the woman endured. That took a lot considering what he endured. I saw the movie and encourage you’ll to support this film. Sandra you’ve become a crab.
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Roman Polanski, and Woody Allen continue to do well, what’s the difference with this black man? Oh he’s black! (Certainly do not condone, rape or arrogance from anyone), however the aforementioned has continued to succeed with horrifying accusations, and truths against them.
You sound very ignorant Sandra.
It’s probably safe to assume he’s more of an historian than you are Sandra. Let’s see you apologize for something you didn’t do. We know you aren’t into men but is it impossible for one to be falsely accused?
**passes out** Bruh…????????
Name one film that Woody Allen released after being accused of being a child molestor that was a box office success. You can’t…cause you just heard somebody else say that and you are running with it. I don’t know why people keep mentioning Woody Allen as if he has anything to do with the public’s reaction to what they are learning about Nate Parker today.
He’s a product of Hollywood, none of them apologizes, or tell the truth. You look at the color of one’s skin and obviously hold them to higher regard, Hollywood isn’t about the color (oh but it is in many regards ) the bottom line is debauchery, and anything that is against God’s righteousness , and that doesn’t have a color!
Same thing I was thinking smh
As if Hollywood as a whole isn’t fiction, based on whites rewriting history in their favor! You’re clueless, and in favor of all that doesn’t have your complexion. Pitiful!
And we constantly look at the blog of a self hating black chick! People in glass houses!
You say that while posting on her blog lol
But let’s stop acting as if being acquitted means being innocent…rape and especially acquaintance rape is nearly impossible to prove without hard evidence, and let’s stop trying to mislead into this belief that his co-defendents conviction was overturned because he was wrongly convicted, when the truth is he got lucky on appeal because the alleged victim would not testify. And let’s stop shaming black people for not supporting or believing Nate Parker just because he is black. Women especially are very sensitive to the issue of sexual crimes against other women. If there had been no alcohol, and no witness who testified that Nate invited others to come watch/join him have sex, we might be more inclined to believe that the girl was a willing participant. But that is simply not how the situation looks.
That’s my point idiot! She doesn’t support blacks, yet we(i)still view her site, more or less for the comment section. Duh!
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No need to name call. I was just wondering why are you here if you hate the site lol
Where or when did I say I hated the site? (Don’t speak for me) I can be interested in any topic at hand, and yet not have interest in the messenger or their personal opinions!
I was with you all the way until you said you didn’t think he was evil. Unfortunately I think rapists are evil. And to call others into the room to rape her solidifies my thought. Outside of that, I agree with what you are saying.
I can respect that. I’m big on forgiveness and I speak at prisons and live in a rough area so I’ve seen truly evil human beings. If it is true then he committed a evil act but is not a evil person. In my humble opinion. But I respect your opinion.
Your right, I apologize you didn’t say that. I just don’t understand the hate for Sandra. She is a black women that came from nothing that created a successful blog. She speaks her mind and doesn’t hide behind some font or avi and isn’t scared which is more then I can say for most. Have to respect that. Everyone is entitled to there opinion.
I love having adult discussions on blogs. See how well we agreed to disagree, or somewhat agree, or somewhat disagree? No cussing or name calling. Now if we could just teach others…..jk.
Hmm, wonder why the jury acquitted him? Luck, I highly doubt it.
Exactly lol
I’m staying out of this one.? Sandy I love you, but why?? Why??
Say it!!! Say it!!!
Disgusting
Sandra, please tell me why you don’t seem to support the black community? You (sometimes) even talk bad about little kids. Please know that even though I don’t know you personally, that I genuinely care about you as a human being, and, a black person. Please don’t block me, as I have been loyal to you since I came across a website that was bashing you to the ground. That was, like, 4 years ago. Baby, please, stop. Stop with the hatred. Stop with the meaness that’s unwarranted. Look to your respondents. We’re trying to tell you something….
Nikko just made my tv throw up lol goodnight.
Just wait for people (especially Parker himself) to blame the film’s poor box office on the media. Because apparently no Americans, black or otherwise, can make their own decisions about what movies they want to see. And obviously, any and all black people would want to spend $10 to see a brutal film about slavery instead of Godzilla or something.
How dare people spend their time enjoying themselves at the movies! How dare they go to see an action film or a comedy when they could have their soul crushed by self-serious Oscar bait!
Seriously, whatever the controversy, I think people are just sick of being preached at and not enjoying themselves. Maybe people like to go to the movies to be… entertained?
They didn’t have to eat at that table.
Movie theater ended up full. Our asses just were anxious I guess. Got there early. It was good and has a message. Overwhelming message is you can only take but so much before you snap. Find hidden messages.
For all the not another slave movie folks…well new non slave one is coming up. Hidden Figures. About first black female engineers at NASA. Taraji, Janelle Monae, Octavia Spencer. But one thing I do notice is the main ones hollering about no more slave movies…don’t support the positive ones EITHER. Yall just make noise. What happened with positive ass movie “Race”? Yall ain’t support it. Im a little tired of folks. Like really really. Awake folks carry a heavy burden. Heavy was the head. Help US help US.
Gn.
I agree, plain & simple his stank attitude repels me and Gabrielle Union showed me that she is about a pay check at any cost. I remember years ago when she was trying to sue tabloids saying she did not know Dwayne Wade or was in a relationship w/him & yet she was with him on the low. I read about BOAN in school so I don’t care to see an over the top version at the movies.
He is failing at sensitivity. Sensitivity doesn’t equate guilt, if he would humble himself then he could win at the box office and during award season . I don’t know if he committed the rape but sure is showing anger, rage, and a need to be in control. Those are things rapist do…. I’m beginning to wonder about you Mr. Nate.
He shouldn’t apologize , however he is angry and insensensitive. I think he shouldn’t apologize but he should show humility and a gratefulness for those who put the money, time, and support in the film other than him This tarnishes the message when you see hecis ready to explode. I watched one of the interview and he was belgerant. I wanted this film to be a success. Just because it scores low in the movie theatre doesn’t mean it won’t win an award though.
As, a date rape victim (roofied), after MUCH soul searching, I have decided I am going to see this movie because it’s,an uplifting story about US, that needs to be told I have decided for me and mine, it doest matter the messager, it’s the message I am interested. And for the record, Nate Parker is coming off as arrogant. THAT I can agree about .
I agree with you suggesting people should not separate the art from the artist, considering the artist’s background. Yet, you use your blog as an open forum to support a misogynist who despises everything you are. (Donald Trump.) He speaks abhorrently about people like you everyday. He hates women. He hates immigrants. He hates Black people. He hates the poor. Stockholm Syndrome much?!. Hypocrisy even more? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b7973d6e65bb1178dd658c530b872f40f919ccbc1fb3691809b7a4d7b757f75f.jpg
It isn’t hate. It is confusion. It is confusion as to why she is willing to support a white person who will use her like 2-ply toilet paper and flush her down a public restroom toilet, yet she will dissect a Black person who is working like a Hebrew slave to do their best to bring attention to a worthy cause or plight.
Woody Allens last two movies…..
2011 – “Midnight In Paris”
Box office $151 million
4 Academy Award Nominations and a win for Best Screenplay
2013 – “Blue Jasmine”
Box Office $97 million
3 Academy Award Nominations and a win for best actress
….I wouldn’t call those flops
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What did he do besides have sex with a woman and it was proven by the jury of (white) women that it was consensual?
I think this movie will do just fine .. The sad thing if he was found not guilty why was the story even brought to light about him almost 10 years earlier ? Some hating folks out there and its sad they dont want him to succeed .. I hope this move breaks all kinds of records in sales and reviews just to show people you cant try to do dirt on people and get away with it ..
Anger and rage are valid responses to a rape charge that one is 1) falsely accused of, 2) acquitted of, and 3) then reminded of decades later. I’m not sure if he raped that chick or not. But let’s not act like white women (i think she was white) accusing black men wrongfully of rape – especially those individuals who are sport stars or on the verge of success – doesn’t happen. I’m sure if you were wrongfully accused of something and acquitted of it then forced to “admit” or talk about it and have it impact your current livelihood, you’d be quite angered and annoyed as well. Nate doesn’t want to cater to white audiences. He shouldn’t have to either, but that he does is the reality of being in the entertainment world.
Please read the Nation’s article by an esteemed sister Doctorate and Historian who takes care to expose the FACT that The Birth of a Nation is not only historically inaccurate, the film misrepresents Nat Turner and enslaved black women.
I am hopeful and have faith that a great Nat Turner movie will be made in the future.
Speak!
This election is a vice, a painful trap. Hilary hates other women she feels threatened by, she has spoken in vile ways about black men, she condescends black people, she holds immigrants and gays as favored minorities over black people, and she has always sheltered herself from the poor whom she disdains. Her husband’s prison industrial complex advocacy cut down a generation of black men who were dealing drugs literally to overcome racist economic marginalization.
This election is voting on interests because neither candidate loves black people. I want a president that’s going to put seed money in the hands of black small businesses and agricultural seed money in the hands of black farmers. I’ve yet to hear this from any candidate.
Folks judgements are really keeping them in a vicious cycle …. Just complain about every damn thing and got the nerve to want you to be mad too….. Beesh why is what I say… I’m cool and I will see this movie based on history ….. SMH
I agree. Your synopsis of Hillary as a candidate is spot on. I am literally looking at “choosing” the lesser of the two extreme evils, as there really isn’t a choice.
I’m waiting to see if Sandra the Crypt Keeper is going to post about her master, Trump’s vulgar statements about women caught on tape. Considering she’s so pro woman and all ??
well we bought our tix and picked out seats. i am going with freedom fighters, A&T sit in counter seaters and cotton pickers.
thanks for the update
Proven not guilty is not the same thing as proven innocent.
I saw the interview … I could understand him being upset. My issue is this; there are so many others BESIDES him that were involved in making the film both behind the sciences and in the film. His inability to control his temper, to show humility, and understanding is not unreasonable. In fact it a sign of growth , maturity, and security in knowing he was RIGHTFULLY aquitted. This would allow him to move past this while freeing him from his past. He isn’t free from this because if he was he wouldn’t still be angry which means he is in bondage and bitter. He is resentful even with all he has accomplished and he may not get another opportunity to work like this again . Hopefully the film was not done in vain.
I’m sorry you experienced that.
Your words can help someone be more aware. ??
What theater you going to? You ever been to ipic?
?Like they’re inside an ignorant cyclone. They just keep spinning inside.
No growth. And they’re cool with that.
Hidden Figures and Fences (the film adaptation of the broadway play by August Wilson) are both on my list for this fall. Can’t wait for those. Saw Race when it dropped, it was a well executed story.
Curious ? Did they show the preview for Fences too? It has Denzel and Viola in it. Denzel directed it.
“Race” is in Redbox if anyone wants to rent it for $1.50.
It’s not too late ??
And it was a really good film.
And despite his sadistic proclivities, he’s heralded as hollywood royalty.
Morning boo?
Zoe sup boo?
I done had to quit my job yall?
Black people do not owe Nate Parker a thing.
Black people can pass on this movie like anyone else.The sheep mentality is just not a good look for Black people,so stop letting sheeple act as if what they said is relevant.
He won’t see a dime of my money and that is my right to feel as such.
This week is the last week that folks in 28 states can Register to Vote.
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Felons can vote in nearly every state.
I’m on way to go early vote now. Go vote
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Good morning ??(Franch vanilla coffee)
Me too. God bless you Nate, my prayers to you an your family and much success with your movie.
Very ignorant indeed. The rantings of a fat, old white man.
Or maybe she can post ice cube lyrics or 2pac or Snoop or Jay z. I got those on tape to lol. You see it’s two sides of the same coin. Or maybe people can say why wait 15 years to bring up something trump said ? Why now ( kinda sounds similar to what there saying about ol Nate lol)
?Chile now I do in home services meaning I take care of elderly and some disabled children and adults depending on the assignment I’m on. Well this particular case is something else. I keep telling this woman about calling me at all hours of the night and morning drinking in my car while transporting her and her language so last night yet again she calls me and I text her Cuz we just talked about this TODAY and this hoe proceeded to call me all kind of bitches chile she lucky ima different person professionally Cuz that ass would have been DRUG ok. So I quit respect is not something that I am willing to compromise on
I agree with you!
Sad though because clearly she had no one else. But she can’t act Unprofessional and expect any differently. I hope she apologizes.
And kudos to you for doing this type of work! It takes love and compassion for humanity.
Much respect! ?
Jay Z, Nate Dogg, et. al aren’t running for President of the United States. Additionally, I don’t subscribe to their nonsense either.
Probably because Trump waited 26 years to bring up something about Bill Clinton… Turnabout is fair play…
I agree it wasn’t right what Woody Allen did but we can’t overlook the fact he has now been married to her for 20 years. And some say the the same could be said about Morgan Freeman who is alleged to had a relationship with his step grand daughter. Js.
I understand that but you were talking about things Sandra’s post on Her blog not who is running for president.
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Hey boo!!
Or the little dark skin girl in the back of the class that was scared to speak cause she didn’t want to draw attention to herself but now people all over the world wake up to hear what she has to say
What time is it where you are lol
Tell me you quit HER case and not your entire job.
That’s the thing she don’t but I’m sure the agency can help her find someone else it is too much for me and I’m tired. I’m not worried I have asecond job and always get matched quickly and am never out of a job for too long.
Yes mam only her case
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Morning sexay?
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I assumed ppl were aware that Sandra is a Trump supporter and my comment was directed at her sheer ignorance and bias. Let me be clear – my comment is in regards to her support of the Orange Buffoon.
I saw the 60 Minutes interview and Steve Harvey and feel enough contrition was shown in both. If he truly feels falsely accused, it would be difficult not to harbor bitterness and resentment towards the accuser as it must have been difficult for a Black man to convince a jury of White women that his White accuser was being less than truthful. Nate Parker didn’t come from wealth so I find it unlikely that he would be acquitted if guilty. And to your point, my theater was virtually empty for the 7pm show opening night so it may very well bomb at the box office and still do well doing awards season.
One of those movies that probably won’t get the ‘it’s a classic’ nod until 10 or 15 years from now….
How do you tell a media mogul, that is also a rape survivor, that you’re cool on her advice? That’s wild.
I’m going to go see the movie today.. It’s about Nat Turner.
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Funny they had no problem accepting his donations back in those days.
Sandra why aren’t you posing on agent ??? ????. He’s in trouble Sandy for saying he can grab women by the usssy. What an idiot he is. Come on out Sandra and defend your man.
So your saying she is ignorant or just her supporting Trump is ignorant?
Nah she is going to turn her head just like his other supporters are doing.
Do you listen to hip Hop? I’m not a Donald supporter but he didn’t cheap on his wife several times in front of the whole world and talk her into staying he was done with them and he dipped lol would you rather he contineuly cheat and stay or him just be honest and say he is done and leave? Just a question.
But Nate Parker has taken on a white Hollywood role and agenda by rewriting history to suit his guilty conscience and ego.
Are they not one in the same? ?
Exactly!
But this is not about hip hop. This is about a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
Not trying to be funny but I would call myself a conscious person so I do understand what’s going on around me. I don’t care about no hip hop I only care about my people and black people sticking together. Donald Trump is a proven racist and his followers are also and you mean to tell me you as a black person want to support this man? STAY FOCUSED!!’
Are you serious? My grandfather voted for George Wallace. He explained why and it helped me understand his thinking. He was a brilliant man. In my humble opinion.
Bullchit! Plenty of black men have been convicted and executed of raping a white woman with ZERO evidence, fact. Know your history!
Agent?..lol?
This election is some frightening isht. My fear is Hilary will get into the Oval Office and flip the script on black people and turn cold and blind eye. If she does that black people will have no recourse but to protest and that will be an excuse for arrests. If Hilary spirals blank people into poverty and cuts programs for her political interests and acceptance, there will be civil unrest. This election is a mess.
I don’t support him but understand where the people that do support him are coming from. Malcolm X is my hero but my son studied the things he said before he left the nation and said to me ” Dad he was a rascist” I understand how he can come to that conclusion based off the things Malcom said back then. Even Malcom apologized for them.
Hillary is not a saint. In fact, she has done things with which I disagree. However, Trump is not an option. Do you have a daughter, mother, sister, aunt? How would you feel if a “man” spoke so vulgarly about their most intimate parts? Would you accept his behavior from your child? I assume, not. So, why accept this behavior from a 70 year old? ?
I used that one as example bc I recall going to see it and me and DubNephew29 were some of the only folks there. First weekend. Folks piss me off. I can’t take another slave movie. I’m passing. Your ass can’t take ANY movie seems like. You don’t support anything
Yes. That was previwed.
Nate Parker was not falsely accused, that is simply a lie. There is a difference of opinion on consent but he did have sex with her, his friend did have sex with her next. The girl felt she was too drunk to do anything and a third man testified that he was invited by Nate to have sex with her next but he declined. The second guy to sleep with her was convicted, Nate wasn’t convicted bc they had a previous sexual encounter whereas she didn’t know Celestine. Nate and Celestine harassed the girl for years after and she ultimately committed suicide.
Let them stay there … They will be purged ….. God is helping those that choose to evolve without ..
I wish I could agree with you but on the way to school every morning me and my son we jam to some of the most vile things a man could ever say and I chalk it up them being an artist. I struggle with being a hypocrite. But that’s just me.
Why would they???
Morals
He should have just followed suit. 100k you deny 17. 5 million you dont. He black and this is going to be career ending for him. And he starting to look like the dude that rapes and says but she liked it so it wasnt rape.
I agree you can’t tell a story when your credibility is shot.
Morals about what – a donation to a fund to assist people in need?? What would be the reason to reject it?? If it’s about morals then why would Trump donate to their fund???
As a father of 2 daughters and a husband, there is no reason for his language or any such language directed towards women. I will not apologize for my feelings. I wish you well. ?
I’m old school, you can disagree but you still respect someone in their house.
I can understand disagreeing but it is not right when commenters insult and ridicule Sandra Rose especially the hateful comments about her dark skin. Just diagree but to use this free black forum to tear her down is just ill.
Fendi, you bring wisdom and I see how even when you disagree or have to check someone you don’t stoop to color insults and hatred.
Sandra showing her tail on twitter. Currently.
Just read the Nation’s article. The writer made valid points; however, it felt a bit nitpicking to me. Sure, one can say the film lacked detail (considering time restraints) but Nate Parker himself admitted the movie is “based on the life of Nat Turner.” He was right! So what, if he despicted the impetus of the rebellion as a brutal “gang rape” of his beloved wife. History has shown that many enslaved women were in fact sexually violated so is it really far fetched to imagine that his wife could have too fallen victim? And for the writer to say he portrayed Black men as heroes to passive Black women was also baffling. The scene with Gabrielle Union properly conveyed the defeated emotion of a powerless Black man who had no choice but to accept his wife being assaulted by the hands of a White man. Was he a hero to his wife in that moment? I think not. The film also brilliantly depicted the conflictions of some White slave owners as well and stopped short at portraying them as advocates or saviors. I thought the film was well done and left with an understanding that some storytelling (which fit well into the slavery narrative) took place.
Say what now?? Damn I don’t have the twitter
No one needs to feel sorry for black men. The creator has chosen the struggle for black men not hillary. Pull your nuts and overcome. Black women overcome. Black men complain.
No one needs to feel sorry for black men. The creator has chosen the struggle for black men not hillary. Pull your nuts and overcome. Black women overcome. Black men complain.
I loved Girl on the train
I loved Girl on the train
people in need lol. Looks at your comment. Who did they assist and why did he donate lol?
people in need lol. Looks at your comment. Who did they assist and why did he donate lol?
Respect your opinion brother and I hope one day we can find a middle ground. One.
Respect your opinion brother and I hope one day we can find a middle ground. One.
Exactly. He’s so caught up in choice of arrogance not showing any mercy for the victim who has committed suicide. She killed her self and that was the closest to peace she got. FCK his movie. I will wait till my corner boys bottlegg this movie and then I will go down there and haggle them on price. If I have a dime bag of bad weed I wil go down and barter with them.
Exactly. He’s so caught up in choice of arrogance not showing any mercy for the victim who has committed suicide. She killed her self and that was the closest to peace she got. FCK his movie. I will wait till my corner boys bottlegg this movie and then I will go down there and haggle them on price. If I have a dime bag of bad weed I wil go down and barter with them.
Was it good brown?? Was it like gone girl but better?
Was it good brown?? Was it like gone girl but better?
Idiot, please dont preach ‘know you history’ like you really know anything. Nate Parker isn’t Emmitt Till and we aren’t backtracking to that era, so stop trying to martyr black men who are convincted of rape as innocent victims. We all know that there are people wrongly convincted even in today’s era of DNA evidence for crimes they may not have committed, but they don’t represent the 98% of the criminals who are locked up because they are in fact guilty.
Idiot, please dont preach ‘know you history’ like you really know anything. Nate Parker isn’t Emmitt Till and we aren’t backtracking to that era, so stop trying to martyr black men who are convincted of rape as innocent victims. We all know that there are people wrongly convincted even in today’s era of DNA evidence for crimes they may not have committed, but they don’t represent the 98% of the criminals who are locked up because they are in fact guilty.
I haven’t seen Gone Girl ?
I haven’t seen Gone Girl ?
So much respect for what you stated. Salute! Sandra should be celebrated not ridiculed. And Fendi drops jewels religiously. Peace
It’s not private. I don’t either
Going
Girl it was good but now that I thank about it ? don’t want to spoil it for you love.. was it good?? Might be able to sneak off today since I’m unemployed and all now ?
You point would be better received without insults. In my humble opinion.
I am Black. If I insult someone’s color, I’m insulting myself. I agree that Sandra deserves respect in her own “house,” so-to-speak. I also believe that respect, like all things, is reciprocal.
When she takes to insulting commenters and making personal slights against us, that’s not ok, especially when we have refrained from showing her disrespect. IDC what her complexion is, she is still my sister. I love her. I just wish she showed more love to herself and her people via her thoughts and words. That’s all.
Dubb sup bae? did Dubb 11 make it out of thee closet???I see you was on here giving them hell last night..ha..was the movie good??
Stay focused is right! Don’t let them distract you. Every major election year people pop up playing the passive aggressive role trying to persuade, deflect, redirect. I don’t support A, but what has B done for ‘the Blacks’. It’s trickery. You’ll have someone who is notorious for hating Black women,,,Try to cater to your Black womanhood…Its almost laughable. The very same people who denounced and eventually murdered MLK, now quote him. Pretend to agree with him. Use him as a means to suppress. What a fvcking joke!!!
Sandra over there reciting lyrics to Trillville. I’m beyond weak. Done. You lit Twitter up on a Saturday morning
:hugs: ??
I just saw it. She callin folks trannys
Is she hacked? Where’s Li’l Thug?
Chile naw thats hur
Had Matt passed you? You guys ok?
Let me see. Hold on.
It’s raining terrible. Awful.
Naw them her words
She is trending on Twitter. ?
Wait, so you’re saying…You follow Sandra on twitter?? Chile, I don’t follow any public figure that ain’t got a blue check by their name?? hi?
It was a luck and the construct of reasonable doubt due to a lack of evidence. Since he and the victim had a sexual encounter the day before, and there was no physical evidence of rape, then there’s reasonable doubt that he had sex with her without her consent. And when’s there’s reasonable doubt, you have to acquit under the instruction of the law. But the friend didn’t get off so lucky…he was a stranger who the girl didn’t want to have sex with, and he took advantage of the situation.
Anyway, people don’t care that Nate was acquitted, the legality of this case is not the issue. It’s his character that people aren’t comfortable with…he still like a slimeball for what he allowed to happen back then, and he looks like a slimeball for things that are coming out of his mouth about it today.
Same here!
I kept getting them blondes mixed up! Lol
Took me half way through to know who’s who.
I didn’t know who done it till almost the end lol
Dub11 was still up when we got back?. Bae was like I ain’t never seen the baby awake this late. Movie was excellent
I’ve said from the start the cinematography is genius. No matter what, the cinematographer deserves recognition.
There are some facts he did not need to alter or embellish. Nat Turner’s character, depth, spirit, intellect, vision, bravery need no embellishment. There will be another film made I can feel it. His memory deserves it.
I never planned to see the movie in the theater because I felt seeing a slave revolt movie in a closed quarter during these racially tenuous times was too much of a vulnerability and risk. I feel screenings are vulnerable to race attack in my personal opinion. I don’t trust these times we live in.
i HOLLERED when i seen them trillville lyrics okay, i was NOT ready for that first thing this morning!
I was not ready when she said she date three strippers ?
I see what you did there.
Is she is or is she ain’t?
Stay safe Sis!
I thought I was the only one.
?Goin UP on ah Satahdayyy ?
White people are looking at this. That’s what gets me. She is the face of the so called Blacks Trump swears have lined up behind him in formation. Is what it is tho. There’s still 2 days left in this week that I swore I was going to come up in financially. Finna get to work on that. Be blessed??
I know I should NOT ask YOU bren but can Sandra even vote??
chileee..showin her asss all on twitter lmao
No, she can’t. I’ve seen her say she’s not a citizen. Unless she’s…joking? Chile. White folks will drive you crazy trying to figure them out, I don’t even bother??
So, what is your point? That still doesn’t prove any racial conspiracy against Nate Parker when it’s the public who pay to go see the movies who garner the box office success for Woody Allen, and most of the revenue for his movies comes from outside the US anyway. Also, the Woody Allen scandal first started circulating nearly 30 years ago and has already exhausted its way thru the media over the decades…what we are learning about Nate Parker is new to the public and thanks to social media, news spreads more quickly. I still don’t understand why people insist on shouting Woody Allens name anytime we talk about Parker.
He invited his buddy in and tried to invite another dude which is rape that he consented while she was intoxicated.
I really don’t feel sorry for him.
He did it.
There were many persons in history who embodied Nat Turner’s courage and conviction. Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman were his female counterparts. I personally didn’t feel unsafe seeing the movie but understand why some would. This film needs to be seen by the masses if for no other reason than it shows us rebelling against the brutal oppressor. It left me feeling proud of those who were hung because they, more than likely resisted injustice while putting their life and the lives of their family members on the line. Colin Kaepernick’s stance today is a less extreme version of this but unfortunately; the reality is, one act of resistance can yield awful consequences for others.
You speak like an attorney and one who has followed this case a lot more closely than I have. I have no bone in this fight but can say; of the two interviews I saw (60 Minutes & Steve Harvey) enough contrition was shown for me. Sometimes good people do bad things and this I know. Furthermore, enough of us have been falsely accused/convicted that I’ve chosen to give this brotha the benefit of doubt in trusting his acquittal was justifiable.
If it’s good, it’s good and people will go see it. Oscars are not rated on popularity but content.
Was quite a movie. Very powerful. Go see it.
Black people don’t get away with raping white women unless there is Absolutely no evidence whatsoever.
98 percent of people convicted are guilty now? Where you pulling these nonsense statistics from?
hey Doll, we going to Towson.
Peace out brotha. ? Or is it sista?
I wasn’t there but the jurors for some strange reason saw fit to acquit this 19-year-old man so let’s leave it at that.
Believe it or not, most strippers are lesbians.
Believe it or not, most strippers are lesbians.
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Right. And let’s not forget HE brought up the rape case to take advantage of the current civil rights movement. No one was talking about the case until HE mentioned it in interviews in August. He planned to go on a college tour portraying himself as the victim. His plan backfired on him spectacularly.
That could take it if we was selling drugs disrespecting our women and shooting. That would be a hit and no one has a problem with more of that then they wonder why cops think we all criminals.
She who?
It’s still raining? Jezus.
People are so ignorant on Twitter. It’s so peaceful on my blog. ?
I’d tend to agree.
Aw, thanks. I luv you too, hun.
Was better than 12 years. 12 years was kinda weak imo I liked the butler better that year
I wish I could upvote more than once.
I wish I could upvote more than once.
We guilty until proven innocent we don’t get the beverage if the doubt.
They will make sure he never works again.
I still believe a losing bidder, a la studio, is behind this smear campaign. Oh well, life goes on. You made movies before this one, you can continue to make them. Independently. There are numerous streaming services or start your own and grow from there.
Oscars do tend to be about popularity though.
I don’t know why you’re blaming a rival studio when Parker brought this on himself. HE brought up the rape case in interviews in August. No one else was talking about it. If he didn’t try to play the victim none of this would be happening.
Good riddance to him. If Parker didn’t bring up his rape acquittal in interviews, the victim’s brother wouldn’t have come forward and announced she killed herself in 2012. Parker tried to play the victim and it backfired on him.
True. And clearly for some, guilty when proven innocent. ?
Lol what he said is tame compared to the music and movies of today that these kids listen to. Society has gone to hell.
I used to get pulled over on a weekly basis in this town I damn near knew the cops by name but they kept trying me. I expect that from them but coming from us it’s a bit puzzling.
It’s puzzling for me too and I’m not one to overlook wrongdoing for someone I like.
He did not bring it up…the movie studio brought it up
Lol lets keep the peace please.
Well said. A lot of people don’t pick up books and read for themselves. Nat Turners story is told from various prespectives.The writer from the Nation was bias. Yes, she’s a historian, but even the most educated historians are bias.
Oh Sandie you are so sarcastic.
I’m going to give you one more chance to come up with a better response.
I’m convinced. You just don’t want to accept the truth.
It was powerful for people who never read about the Nat Turner story.
So, are you voting for Johnson? Because, from the sound of it, you don’t want to vote for either. And not voting will just help the chances of Trump being president.
Yes, indeed!
Yeah, okay!
Aka MOST Americans black and white alike.
Queen of Katwe as well. We shall see how many go see that one…
Queen of Katwe as well. We shall see how many go see that one…
My ass was still dranking coffee?
Yew?
Since Thursday night??
It’s crayzee. Raining and flooding. Mom and stepdad just left – had been out of power since 1 AM and a tree is down a street over from their house.
Better half works for DOT and is a volunteer firefighter ain’t been home and won’t be for a while.
Were you there personally to witness what he did or did not do it? White folks do shit…all the time…and are kindly pardoned. Law said he didn’t do it. So therefore he didnt.
Come on what man especially black has ever admitted raping anybody? Lol you are waiting on a confession…
The first question in these cases I always ask is did you have sex with the woman? If the answer is Yes… Houston he has a problem no matter what.
Why would he apologize for something that he is saying he didn’t do?
right!!
I wait until it goes to RedBox
Mel Gibson was responsible for Passion of the Christ, and he is a racist butt hole… but I’m sure Sandra has the DVD, if we are going to boycott movies based on individuals personally misshaps then the Hollywood industry would cease to exist… I’m going and taking my son since he doesn’t realize how black he truly is… America is a ticking time bomb right now I want my child to understand it doesn’t matter how respectful and polite you’re, living in a diverse neighborhood… you still a black boy in the State of Texas
Happy Saturday. I’m about to be swimming with the fish soon. LOL? (I’m in NC).
Today, now A black man on trial, with an all white jury, for the rape of a white woman have been convicted of sexual assault with ZERO evidence!
Roots was it for me. I’ll wait until it hits the redBox and it may not at this point.
It may go straight to DVD.
I will be seeing this movie today. I like others were upset about certain things, but this movie is bigger than him. I’d rather support this than the typical slave movies.
Thanks for reminding me it comes out this weekend!!!
Narcissist looking for attn?! ???
It’s Mr. Miss to yew ???
SchNope
The only way he can survive is if he embraces the gay community and get butt naked in his next film. That’s how Chris Brown survived. Remember when his nude pic leaked after beating Rihanna then everybody loved him again haaaa. Nudity cures all.
I’m writing in General Colin Powell
Also another great one
Don’t turn this around on me!! Answer the question!! Why wouldn’t the Clintons take his donation back then and why would Trump donate the money??? I’ll wait…..
Going to see the film tonight. Several sources have said to bring your tissue and cut off communication with your YT friends for a few days after viewing.
Its Sista. I’m definitely female. I don’t know why that’s important to you? You lookin for some p???y to grab or nahl?
O sht.
I liked him in the Great Debaters, but I’m troubled by his attitude? If he isn’t listening to Oprah, unmm..I don’t think he wants a career in Hollywood? Pretty odd?
And you? What is your bias? That an historian has to be biased: what malarkey-that is your bias plain and simple
????????….I LOVE err’ting about this post except for that vile demon Wendy’s meme….
I am sure we are all relieved to know that the Judicial System is perfect. No more need for appeals (Jean Celestin would not have had his sentence vacated on the grounds of ineffectual counsel, for example) and all those hard working people at the Innocence Project can relax. It fits your particular bias for it to be true now but I bet you have complained plenty about juries etc when it did not suit you.
People don’t believe the hype go support this movie this is a ploy to discredit this man so this movie can flop I went this afternoon and my life was changed it did something to my soul and spirit I literally could not drive I cried all the way home I vowed to GOD I will never disrespect another black man I love my people I love my people I love my people BIRTH OF A NATION is our story I’m PROUD TO BE BLACK!!!
I salute you Nate Parker
thats any slave movie tho
This article isn’t about white rapists. It’s about Nate Parker raping arse.
This article isn’t about white rapists. It’s about Nate Parker raping arse.
Nope. Just lazy folks like you.
Nope. Just lazy folks like you.
Kiki, I have a lot biases. When it comes to segregation and MLK’s yearning to have civil rights. Booker T. Washington’s speech at the Atlanta Convention…I could go on, but I’d prefer to argue with my Afro-Studies professors at Howard. My biases are not yours and yours are not mine. My interpretation of history is not yours and yours is not mine. So………I can admit that I am bias, can you?
Kiki, I have a lot biases. When it comes to segregation and MLK’s yearning to have civil rights. Booker T. Washington’s speech at the Atlanta Convention…I could go on, but I’d prefer to argue with my Afro-Studies professors at Howard. My biases are not yours and yours are not mine. My interpretation of history is not yours and yours is not mine. So………I can admit that I am bias, can you?
There are a lot of Box office flops that win Oscars soooooo who knows? Somebody might be surprised .
There are a lot of Box office flops that win Oscars soooooo who knows? Somebody might be surprised .
Still doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. We saw that with George Zimmerman and plethora of other police officers. So by your rebuttal…they’re innocent too? #igaveyouachance
Still doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. We saw that with George Zimmerman and plethora of other police officers. So by your rebuttal…they’re innocent too? #igaveyouachance
I hear the movie is on track to do pretty good at the theatre. Check again on Sunday. So far its made almost 10 million dollars.
Grow up. Not knowing something does not make you lazy, take your immature ignorance somewhere else.
I seen it & I must say it was a good movie.
She is no longer on this earth. As a victim of assault I hold no bitterness towards my attacker. It would hold me in bondage. I know people who still hate/resent the dead and buried just like Nate. In his case I would rejoice that I wasn’t convicted and in jail! He should find joy and use that to combat any resentment. My Goodness look at Nelson Mandela no resentment at all and yet he was in jail for years. Is how you choose to perceive and live your life. Maybe a an award or nomination will vindicate him if not hope he really can move forward.
Everyone has biases and an angle some are just better at disguising it.
First Howard, you do not appear to know the definition of the word “bias”: prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair. Your examples of your bias or not bias but what you think on an issue, your opinions. My point was that your painting historians as all having bias is absurd. Good historians, and they are legion, do not use bias as the basis for understanding history. That you need to make the messenger wrong because you do not like the message is something you should discuss with all your professors. And on the subject of King- don’t you think his comment on the content of character is germane here? Has not Parker shown us over and over again in interviews and posts on his Facebook who he is?
Ok I lub Sandie. I’m just checkin.
Okay, Kiki not sure exactly how to respond to your assumptions but to say; I’ve not had to face a jury in order to complain that it did not go my way. We all know the American Judicial System is imperfect so I hope you also complain when innocent persons are falsely accused/convicted and especially seek adequate compensation for those whom have served lengthy prison sentences which have been overturned by DNA.
In the words of ME….bye Nate!
Yep I’m waiting until NEVER to watch this movie. I’ll read up on Nat Turner.
He could apologize for the situation and for what she went through. There is was a way of apologizing without saying he raped her. He needed me! I would have had his azz off the hook without looking like an insensitive axxhole
I appreciate your input on this subject as I have no first hand experience nor do I speak for Nate Parker. I’m simply saying he seemed remorseful during the two interviews I saw and I personally wasn’t offended by a man claiming his innocence and refusing to apologize for it. I interpreted him saying he felt it was morally wrong as relating to sex outside of marriage or sex without love or group sex but not necessarily non consensual sex. I also am a firm believer that you reap what you sow and no deed goes unpunished. So, hopefully he’s made peace with the situation for his own sake.
I’m neither immature nor ignorant. The fact that you choose to learn about Nat Turner through a movie, shows your immaturity and ignorance. We all know that Hollywood stories are chopped and screwed. So, my dear, you grow up and stop allowing movies to be your educator.
Nice try, however bad comparison. George Zimmerman had Florida Stand Your Ground Law on his side and though we have evidence that he was advised by law enforcement to fall back; he continued to pursue and kill Trayvon Martin. As for the plethora of police officers, we have video evidence in most cases showing a clear case of murder or at a minimal-unlawful use of force. Is there a video of Nate Parker rapping this woman? There must be since you’re so convinced. The man claims his innocence, a jury of White women found him innocent and I’m going to assume you were not present to stop the assault so I’m giving the brotha the benefit of doubt that his acquittal was in fact justifiable.
In my opinion, that’s exactly what he did in the 60 Minutes and Steve Harvey interviews. He expressed sorrow for what happened and in hindsight saw the error in his ways. I don’t know what more can be expected from a man who feels he was falsely accused.
it was a great movie and i went to see it based on NAT TURNER’S STORY NOT NATE PARKERS!!!! the only thing i could say nate parker SHOULD have done was to teach young men to abstain from sex on campus and especially group sex, yes this was a teacheable moment for him to teach about sex on campus, however, the movie should be treated differentlyl.
You argue like an angry child hurling insults because I enjoyed a movie by a black man that you clearly want to burn at the stake. You want to get a point across to someone a bad place to start is with an insult, Any mature adult would know this.
Please point out where I said I chose to learn anything from this movie?? I’ll wait.
Exactly!
That’s all you gathered from my response? Yeah, ok. This is a waste.
Whatever makes you sleep at night.
It wasn’t Nat Turner’s story. But then again, only the people who didn’t read the story of Nat Turner take the hollywood version as gold.
What assumptions? You state that he was acquitted with the clear implication that that was that. Since you agree the system is flawed and miscarriages of justice do indeed happen what is your argument? By our current, more fulsome and evolved understanding of consent Parker would not have walked. And if you read the trial transcript it seems clear that the consensual sex his walking was based on would also by today’s standard not wash. I believe in reparations for those whose prison sentences have been over turned by DNA, prosecutorial malfeasance etc. and the following link is to the donations page of the Innocence Project. They do good and important work so don’t be stingy.
Straight people problems.
Fendi, I respect you and your wisdom to the fullest. The discourse on this blog doesn’t happen anywhere else.
if he were white this would b no big deal…leave the man alone!
I haven’t seen this type of discord elsewhere. I’ve seen disagreements between commenters, but never a moderator inciting chaos amongst commenters. That is dangerous, IMO.
Use your power for good. My 2¢.
I haven’t seen this type of discord elsewhere. I’ve seen disagreements between commenters, but never a moderator inciting chaos amongst commenters. That is dangerous, IMO.
Use your power for good. My 2¢.
Uhh, I was referring to your saying, “I bet you have complained plenty about juries etc when it didn’t suit you,” is that not in fact an assumption? You seem to be an attorney or some form of legal professional; I am not so surely you would find it beneath you to argue with a lay person such as myself. It is my prerogative to accept Nate Parker’s acquittal as just, just like it’s yours not to and your pulling out court transcripts and retrying this man publicly is akin to shall I say, double jeopardy. Now come back with your legalese that most of us here won’t understand but dare I forget to mention; I hope you support Nate Parker’s “The Birth Of A Nation,” it won’t disappoint. And thanks for the link. Let’s hope you practice what you preach.
How can I get this Nation’s article???
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-birth-of-a-nation-is-an-epic-fail/
I hope his azz sinks quicker than the Titanic.
Our biases are typically what shape our opinion. What is she talking about? Historians good and bad are people first; therefore, some are more objective than others.
Oh Kiki, I truly do understand the definition of bias. I gave you examples of situations I am and still biased about. Did I explain to you why, no. So, I can see why you would think, I used this word in the wrong context. Me mentioning I would rather argue with my professors still stands. I would love to go into further details on a plethora of black people in the 19th and 20th century and why I’m biased about them. However, this is not the place to discuss them. Secondly, I hear what you’re saying, however, there are SOME biased historians. I know some professors who are and there in the HISTORY department. ? Now, if you want to continue trying to school me on a comment I made that was strictly my opinion, by all means feel free. Futhermore, this is my last time replying to you. Shoot me your email if you’d like to chat further. I’ll even recommend some books to you. Have a great night ?
Thank you, but I guess she/he didn’t get that out of my statement. But again, it’s all about interpretation…
Oh and I don’t condone rape, especially by a black man, considering our past in this country. However, I am not going to let a mistake that was made years ago, overshadow a movie about a man considered a hero in the antebellum south. More stories like this need to be told, bc the Hollywood narrative on what back people were subjected to for years is getting old. Peace ?
Right, if you see the books written for high school students, those books are full of biases. Oh and let’s not forget Texas completely trying to erase slavery from their history books. Those historians are totally bias…lol. I guess she just wanted to have an Internet argument…I’m not with it ?
I’m confused about the constant Woody Allen mentions too, because I’m guessing, and maybe I’m all the way off, but I’m guessing Nate Parker and Woody Allen have completely different generations of people checking for them. I highly doubt the majority age group of people not willing to support Nate Parker are the same people that were supporting Woody Allen, and I’m pretty doubtful that Woody Allen and Nate Parker share a good chunk of the same audience. If the people doing the most boycotting are majority millennials then is it not possible they didn’t have to boycott Woody because they never checked for him to begin with. I don’t get!
Why is the message of the film so important, I swear I don’t get why the message being presented through this film is “so important.” Are there not books and documentaries already available that deliver just as important of a message? What about the books and other sources of information Nate Parker used, it’s not like he was actually there with first-hand witness testimony so why does it have to be this film vs people just reading the same thing Parker read. Has PBS really not presented a bio story for Turner?
Yes!
Yes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk
This needs to be seen by all!
I don’t think people should keep tossing out Woody Allen as an example without being able to truly state that the people who went to see his movies after the accusation actually were aware of the accusation, because quite frankly I had to go to Wikipedia to see what the problem was. Up until the great Nate Parker scandal of 2016 Woody Allen wasn’t someone I ever googled to learn about, so it’s possible many people were just going to see a movie that looked interesting and didn’t have a clue it was attached to someone they should not support, it happens. There’s a lot of people in the world walking around with their heads in the cloud (as my mother says) who just aren’t aware of all the wrong doings in the world. I don’t know what I was doing or where I was but I totally missed this Woody Allen story.
Good for you!! I read the book so I’m good!!
I know I won’t!!
Those are ignorant folk but I’m like you, people should just comment and move on, why is her skin tone being attacked and for what??? Hell black is beautiful!!!
ok, i get it, oprah is “seasoned” but he didn’t want to take her advice. so what. why is this news. her stamp might have promoted the movie a bit more but folks are going to see it if they are interested in this genre no matter what o says. i for one want to see it because to some degree it has some truths about the hardship of my ancestors.
First of all, the title to this article uses the word “smug” which is brings questions to intent and knowledge. Do you know Mr. Parker personally to make such a judgement of his character? I am not him, but in any case all advice which is given to anyone does not have to be taken. Now, what I am not hearing comments on is the fact that this is not Mr. Parker’s first film, so what is the true intent of bringing up rape allegations from his past at this point in his career? Think, but you don’t have to think to hard, “How dare he bring this up”. “Who is he to tell Our story from His perspective!”. I saw the film and am grateful to Mr. Parker for telling this story with the intensity which is needed to remind America how racism is still being played out! To this day, an unarmed Black man can be killed by the police and inspire controversy instead of condemnation and punishment!
What history did did he rewrite? What white role did he take on?
This is a damn shame!!!
Last I checked just because someone was not convicted does not mean they are innocent .The prosecutor,solicitor did not prove case beyond a reasonable doubt.I give zero fuks for rapists,child molestors,murderers etc.
Did you see the trailer up top? They can kiss my black arse. The man was not convicted of rape. Let the innocent black men you have locked up FREE!!!!!!
I enjoyed it!!
@Metoo…let’s not leave out the fact that a 19 year old BLACK man was accused of raping a WHITE woman and ACQUITTED. But for his detractors, little things like FACTS don’t matter. They “feel” like he did it, the jury got it all wrong, blah, blah, blah. Armchair lawyers are ass clowns.
It’s a shame that a lot of black people will fall for the ? in the tail pipe. We can’t trust white people to tell our stories. They will never be honest about us or our History. Please don’t think you are getting truth from the history channel. When a black person tells our story then I will listen!!!!
Go away!!
Go away please!!! You speak but nothing you say makes any sense.
How old are you? Wow..
What is the truth? Did you witness it? I don’t think so.
Get off your high horse please!. This could have been a teachable moment for you but you failed.
Old enough to know that you have no idea about the world we live in and especially your own country. Goodbye you don’t know what happened but you spew your negativity still so I don’t need to ask your age.
I saw the movie and it was great. I think everyone, especially black people should go see it. You will learn something if you do. Are you up for the challenge????
George Zimmerman,Casey Anthony just a few examples of just because no convictions means their innocent.Now carry on with your Sunday god bless..
Go away white woman!!
Wow now that’s hilarious so I’m white because you dont like my statement.Good day god bless.
SMDH
Exactly for me I was anti Nate Parker but I had to stop and ask why is this man being brutalized???let me see what this is all about and when I did I was humbled and the power of this story changed my view on our people it woke me up big time…
??? and folks like yall are the SOLE reason why I come here. I love seeing OUR stories being told on the big screen. I have so many faves – Glory, Amistad, 12 Years a Slave, etc. Hubby asked a coworker (a 50+ year old Black guy) was he going to see the movie and he responded that he’d NEVER heard of Nate Turner until this movie. For this reason alone, our stories need to be told.
A lot of you are so self-absorbed that you don’t take into account that every Black person didn’t get the same education, have the same kind of upbringing, etc. and may not have the same level of knowledge about our history. Hell, prior to Glory, I had not a clue about the 54th infantry of Black soldiers who are CREDITED with turning the tide of the entire Civil War!! Nor did I know that a group of slaves took over their slaveship then fought for and won their rightful freedom in the all White U.S. Supreme Court.
Neither of these stories were taught in my history classes during school so I am grateful that filmmakers are telling our history and piquing our collective interest to research and learn more about US in this country.
They’re = they are
what they’re saying about Nate…
There = the book is over there on the desk
Their = plural possessive
It is their decision to see this movie.
#helpful
Your = singular possessive
Those are your opiniins, your thoughts, etc.
You’re = you are
You’re not alone.
Classic lies told on SR ?????
if it’s peaceful, I ain’t Black!
Woody Allen is a white man. Blacks don’t get the same privilege to act up. I recall Isaiah Washington’s takedown and it angered me to the fullest. Hollywood does not like black folk… Smh
Amen I think I said this before .. An old class mate did a presentation on Nat Turner …. And I must never heard much about him at all in highschool …. It wasn’t until I was in undergrad is when I started learning more … I am glad this movie came out… Glad
Hell, you wasn’t there either. ??? We have opposing views, get over it.
Naw, nope, try again.
Bias implies prejudgement. That does not require any critical thinking. why you prefer to think of yourself as biased as opposed to thoughtful is a bit of a ponder. If you paint with a broad brush as you did in your first post about historians then it is fair to call you on that. Happy that you are done replying and that you do not condone rape.
An attorney? Because I know the term “prosecutorial malfesance”? Yikes! And it is hardly double jeopardy for me to have read the trial transcript, Parker’s own posts and watched him in interviews and formed and stated an opinion. You are a bit thin-skinned and defensive methinks. And there is truly no point in any more of this. Worry about practicing what you preach and donate.
That’s good. I’m going to check it out this week.
I will never pay to see The Birth of Two Rapists
I will research it, and get the real facts on Nat Turner.
It’s sad that you think Nate Parker’s rape fantasy is your story. Not all Africans were brought over here on slave ships. Only a tiny fraction of Africans were sold in America as slaves. African kings and queens who had money booked their own passage to America by way of Europe. No one in my family tree was ever a slave. Learn your history.
Why do I have to go away.. Because men dont normally admit to being rapist. Maybe you need to go away with your denial and delusions. What do you retards think he is going to say Oh yeah me and my team mates raped a groupie? LOL Okay idiot.
Wow!!! So he sat down with 60 mins but not Gayle ? He would’ve had a better time with the CBS morning news crew to be honest. They wouldve really gave focus to the movie as well as giving a fair and balanced interview. Crazy
My question is….did he rape someone? ???? Facts only
Regarding Nate Parker’s past and the low viewer turn out for BIRTH OF A NATION is – THE MAJORITY OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE REFUSED TO SUPPORT HIM! BLACK WOMEN HAVE CHOSEN TO REJECT HIS CALL FOR BLACK SUPPORT. BLACK WOMEN ARE SICK TO THEIR STOMACHS OF “THE CULTURE OF RAPE” THE PERMEATES THE MINDSET OF BOTH BLACK AND WHITE MEN, PARTICULARLY JOCKS.
BLACK WOMEN HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO HIS WHITE VICTIM ULTIMATELY COMMITTING SUICIDE. The majority of Black women view Parker as the typical self-loathing predatory black jock who rejects black women, and preys on white women; and who will ultimately marry white to use the white woman to produce children that will not look like him, his parents nor his siblings, in his desperate drive to commit genetic suicide.
Parker knows it’s all over because, IF BLACK WOMEN DO NOT SUPPORT A BLACK ORIENTED PUBLIC PROJECT, IT IS DEAD IN THE WATER. Parker’s anger is really directed at black women; the very women he has always rejected.
Regarding Nate Parker’s past and the low viewer turn out for BIRTH OF A NATION is – THE MAJORITY OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE REFUSED TO SUPPORT HIM! BLACK WOMEN HAVE CHOSEN TO REJECT HIS CALL FOR BLACK SUPPORT. BLACK WOMEN ARE SICK TO THEIR STOMACHS OF “THE CULTURE OF RAPE” THE PERMEATES THE MINDSET OF BOTH BLACK AND WHITE MEN, PARTICULARLY JOCKS.
BLACK WOMEN HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO HIS WHITE VICTIM ULTIMATELY COMMITTING SUICIDE. The majority of Black women view Parker as the typical self-loathing predatory black jock who rejects black women, and preys on white women; and who will ultimately marry white to use the white woman to produce children that will not look like him, his parents nor his siblings, in his desperate drive to commit genetic suicide.
Parker knows it’s all over because, IF BLACK WOMEN DO NOT SUPPORT A BLACK ORIENTED PUBLIC PROJECT, IT IS DEAD IN THE WATER. Parker’s anger is really directed at black women; the very women he has always rejected.
“biased” Basic grammar.
Zimmerman did not utilize the Stand Your Ground law but you would know that if you knew what you were talking about.
Every rapist thinks he is falsely accused.
Yeah. Third dude knew it wasn’t right and left.
His lawyer used “self defense” but it is a well known fact that the “Stand Your Ground Law” was a factor in Zimmerman’s non-guilty verdict.
You would know!
Nate’s ego has crushed his career in less then two months. This “man” objectified a woman and harassed her with his buddies until she dropped out of school. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and he can’t take the pressure. Oprah was right he should have put himself on Larry King or Charlie Rose. He had an opportunity to speak to young men about consent and No meaning No on college campuses instead he just ignored it and thought the work would speak for itself. He’s a monster and I threw out my “Beyond the Lights” DVD cause I cant even watch his silly ass.
He was acquitted, Case close!! The accuser admitted she performed consensual oral sex on Parker. “I’m not proud of it,” she said in court, “but I saw it as being safer [than sex].”
She was a trick!!
From there, she alleged, “I just remember opening my eyes and seeing Nate having intercourse with me.”
She also claimed she woke up to realize she was performing oral sex on someone and mentioned having sex with another person who was not Parker. “When it was somebody other than Nate, I said, ‘Where is Nate?’ ” she told the court.
Parker said the coach also warned that “these things come up from time to time with girls who feel guilty … or may even find themselves pregnant with a multiracial child and rejected by their parents.” (The accuser is white and Parker is African-American.)
Lies, Stevie Wonder can see she let them run a train on her and then played the victim, its not rape when you want it. Got real loaded up before.
Ole white bish screaming RAPE after her sluty A$$ gave it up willingly.
If he was guilty he would have Been convicted locked up
He was not found guilty and I wonder why?! This was 17 years ago, the just trying to throw shade on the Movie ” Birth of a Nation”
SO just because he was acquitted he isn’t guilty? So George Zimmerman and the police that killed Eric Garner & Freddie Gray are innocent because a messed up judicial system said they were innocent too? Just as I said before if you read the court transcripts you can see that this woman was drunk out of her mind. There were three men in that room and one of them knowingly LEFT because he could see that she was drunk and didn’t want to take part in the train!!! Just because Nate slept with her first doesn’t mean she gave consent to get it on again with him and his friend. Our justice system cannot be trusted especially in school funded towns. Also, Nate went to Penn State one of the most funded private universities on the East Coast. This was at the height of the Paterno coaching seasons (before Sanduskygate broke lose). He was an All-pro wrestler one of the best on his team. Any public scandal would have dried up funding from Alumni. And on top of that Mr. Parker revealed his past willingly he is the one who opened his can of worms.
You forgot the part about her being a White Slut Whore who wanted it !! They all got drunk together getting ready for the train! George Zimmerman and The killer Cops were acquitted through White Supremacy laws and Evilness. So you not going to see the Movie because of him getting some booty from a Freak ass white Bish who can perform blow jobs in her sleep.. GTFOH! Her testimony was lies and she got caught in lies! .. So you get wasted with young college boys, and Cry wolf!?
You forgot the part about her being a White Slut Whore who wanted it !! They all got drunk together getting ready for the train! George Zimmerman and The killer Cops were acquitted through White Supremacy laws and Evilness. So you not going to see the Movie because of him getting some booty from a Freak ass white Bish who can perform blow jobs in her sleep.. GTFOH! Her testimony was lies and she got caught in lies! .. So you get wasted with young college boys, and Cry wolf!?
ROMAN POLANSKI.
He is just the wrong color & does NOT have the proper connects.
You real hype so your not getting my time anymore. I hope that no one in your family is sexually assaulted because your way of thinking just promotes whats wrong. You cant be for the justice system with Nate and against when it comes to cops who kill. Make up your mind and stand for something instead of listening to what others say. And if you are intelligent use your words instead of saying, freak, bish and other things that make it seem like your just one of those that drink the kool-aid…
Those are my words! Sexual assault? So its clear you believe her, and I believe he didn’t RAPE her so whatever! I had the new first hand when it happened back in 19990 because My sister was a full time student there.. So beat it boo.. She was a known WHORE and SLUT who frequently hooked up with BLACK ATHLETES!! My sister knew all about her and followed the trial, her and the entire school knew the Girl was a LIAR! and she was sleeping around. So its hard to be believed when you already the biggest Slut on Campus and suddenly you aint with it?! That same year another Girl got raped on Campus and the guy actually did it and he was sent to Jail. The girl was lying there had been pictures and a tape of her going around school, showing just how innocent she is. Why cant she be lying? Why is her truth 100? and not his truth? Its like a known Hooker saying she got raped, Who cares?!
I think he got off b/c of the direction his career was headed in……….. and his room mate took the fall also b/c of that… guilty or not.. words don’t cost a thing…
Trying to see your point. Like I said…..white individuals do things all of the time. He was acquitted. The end.
i agree with Apatow he could have used his voice for good but instead……. I still wanna see this, just not as enthused opening weekend.
These stories should be told by upstanding citizens. Not by sick black men.
The Birth of A Nation is a Great Film. I am spiritually better for having seen it. Nate acted his part brilliantly. I am aware that Nate was acquitted of rape many years ago. Those who dredge that up now are like vigilantes seeking to ostracize someone for charges he was found not guilty of. America is in denial on its history with slavery. The trashing of this great film serves this agenda of denial. Meanwhile Tyler Perry’s stereotypical fare is doing well.