The mother of the handsome young lad featured in the controversial H&M ‘monkey’ advertisement has a word of advice for Americans who tend to overreact to every little controversy: Get over yourselves.
Terry Mango, the British woman whose son was featured in a H&M ad wearing a green hoodie with the words “COOLEST MONKEY IN THE JUNGLE”, took to social media to diminish the controversy.
[I’m] the [mom] and this is one of hundreds of outfits my son has modelled [sic]……. Stop crying wolf all the time, unnecessary issue here. Get over it,” she wrote.
As a Brit myself, I have to agree with her. I told you yesterday that H&M and other companies use hot button gimmicks to drive traffic and free press.
Americans fall for these types of stunts all too easily.
Narcissist Sean Combs, who has fallen off recently, even offered the boy $1 million American dollars for a Sean Jean modeling contract.
Knowing British women like I do, Terry probably told him to keep his money and stop using her son for publicity.
What do you think? Should Terry take Puffy’s million that he probably doesn’t have to give?
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Told yall these folks dont have an ounce of integrity. They are willingly doing this.
Just an ignorant mom that will subject her child to whatever for money.
IF she ( the mum) does NOT care, then I definitely do NOT…BUT as for me and mine (grandchildren) this WOULD BE a NO!!! Unacceptable by MY standards and morals… I remember back in the day buying “Garanimals” clothing sometimes and I would look to see IF it was something I WANTED my kids wearing, since I WAS the one buying and making the DECISIONS…. but as for THIS MUM, to each HER OWN. Gud Day!
Should Terry take Puffy’s million that he probably doesn’t have to give?
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I dont think going with Puffy is a good idea. Have that baby owing him money til he is 45 years old. HOWEVER, stop saying or spectulating what that black man can and CANNOT afford. First it was the Carolina Pampers. Now he aint got a million to offer this child to model. Stop.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2017/06/12/why-diddy-is-no-1-on-the-2017-celebrity-100-list/#33b66d293faf
I don’t know why people think Diddy don’t have money. People love to count other peoples money
All money ain’t good money, you can’t pay me enough to publicly disrespect my child (son/daughter) BUT if she like’s it, then she likes it,
GIRL when I just read “Pampers”. I was looking like “They got some Carolina Pampers? Are they black owned? What are the reviews? Are the leakproof? Are they thick like a pad or thin like a “panny liner”?” LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Garanimals are cute and inexpensive (daycare and throw up will make you save your coins)! Don’t sleep. LMAO
He is so handsome! I bet we’ll see him again on the runway.
I’m more concerned about the basketball team in Ohio having racial slurs on the back of their jerseys.
I wasn’t outraged by this cause I knew his momma was there and cashed that check.
Also this monkey issue elicits a lot conversation. My son wears nothing monkey, didn’t have any at the shower, in the crib, none of that. Maybe on a sheet… lol
Others love that shit and don’t equate with the stereotype.
First of all, any mother who knows about Diddy’s interactions with Usher when he was only 15 years old would keep her young son as far away from Sean Combs as possible.
Carolina Pampers. Tehehhehe
Dude who I came up with has been calling them Caroilina Pampers on Facebook for over a smooth ass decade. Said they cry real real extra bad in the post game interview when they lose.
I didn’t read about the basketball team, let me google/
I agree, it’s not something i would put my kids in but i will not have a heart attack about another woman who doesn’t care if her kid wears this.
Also this monkey issue elicits a lot conversation
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I was told this morning that a conversation was not needed and I beg to differ. One on the issues you just brung up. And one is needed to continually educate those on race outside of this country. I am well aware that not eveyone puts an emphasis on race that we do. However, I do expect all global corporate entities to educate themselves if nothing else. My company is based out of UK. Previous one Ireland. If they are global you have to be globally aware on cultural issues across the board.
She’s not the one out here looking like a fool though…he is.
Glad he will be able to refer back and see the KING pics.
Im in Canada and Walmart here doesnt have Garanimals but better belive when i come to the US at $4 a piece, i stock up. Those are the clothes where they rip and get paint on and you dont have to think twice about tossing them.
Girl, the mention of pampers has me on my toes. LOL
I got something weird/ funny for y’all. Lemme know when I post it. ????? some folks don’t need the ‘nnanet ??
LISTEN. Both mine came up Garanimals DOWN.
NOW! It’s an open post.
Since this is an open post I have a comment to get off my chest about my son’s best friend’s wedding.
So my son’s best friend recently got married on New Year’s Eve for the 3rd time and he is not even 35 yet. While giving a toast, the groom’s sister made a comment I thought was stupid. She said that her family just loves the bride to pieces because she is always taking the groom’s daughter to get her hair and nails done. Umm, is that a reason to get married because someone is obviously trying to hook you because they see how easy it is to get to you through your daughter because of your other two “rushed marriages” ? Oh, and she’s not paying for the hair and nail trips she’s just providing the transportation since the girl is only 15 and doesn’t drive. It’s probably just me acting like a mom because he and my son have been friends since junior high and well, he is pretty vulnerable and weak when it comes to women and being talked into marriage. It’s too late now cuz theyz married now but as I sat there and listened to her reason why their family loved the bride, I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. What about kindness, a loving heart, compassion, helping the kid with her homework, taking her to educational venues to learn some stuff, learn about her heritage, going on field trips with her, and teaching her about fast-assed boys, etc but the best reason you could come up with was because she takes her to get her hair and nails done. Wow. It’s got to be just me feeling some type of way about him being on his 3rd marriage.
I don’t think people think that he doesn’t have money, he just don’t play fair with money
I thought she was from Kenya? anyways, this IS offensive and the fact that a few people don’t see it that way does NOT mean we will continue to let these people get away with it. you DO NOT get to tell other people what to find offensive and majority isn’t likely to be wrong. so yea, bye
I agree with the Mom…..my goodness as a people we are becoming very hypersensitive to EVERY LITTLE THING! We continue to ALLOW our buttons to be pushed and fall right into the trap that was set.
This bitch cares more about money in her pocket. ?
For you Yoni.
Ppl are losing their minds… forreal.
https://www.facebook.com/lakilaa.flanagan.5/posts/945529938931444
….and I’m JUST NOW finding out about them because of the SUN! LOL Literally just gave tons of sh!t away with a 1/4 of it being……you guessed it; grranimals. LOL
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Second, I love this mother. Black Americans will sit back and watch their kids dodge bullets from black gangbangers all damn day and never even look up from their cell phones. But take a non-issue like this and they are forever “outraged.”
so you think it’s alright for your child to wear clothing that disrespects them? no matter what kind of gimmick it was, it proved to me that “as long as the amount of money is right, you will allow disrespect”.
https://www.facebook.com/lakilaa.flanagan.5/posts/945529938931444
are you dumb?
EEEEXACTLY! My Grand-Sun is only 4 months and they way he is growing out of stuff, spits up after feedings and sits in a seat all day. His attire of choice IS Garanimals. LOL
Is she really that dumb?
Europe, specifically the UK is full of Africans. A lot migrate directly there as they were under European rule til not so long ago.
sometimes.
Damn, maybe on his fourth marriage they can comment on how much better she cooks verses the others. IMO, that is something to rejoice over lol. Congrats to him though, hopefully she is the (final) one.
I heard Usher had to pop his booty for Diddy back in the day to get his career going. If all the sexual stuff Diddy has done to men ever came out, not to mention what he has done to women, that fool would probably be locked up forever. And just because he has money doesn’t mean he is not culpable and can’t be locked up for anyone that will respond “but he has money”. My response would be Weinstein and Simmons had money too.
He sounds like hopeless romantic. He appears to be in search of something he did not receive growing up. Hopefully this marriage will work for him, if not he may catch up to a Elizabeth Taylor in marriages. His sister sound ignorant and young.
I was just like really? That’s all you got to say when your brother is not even 35 and he’s on his 3rd marriage?
I can tell.
I’m on a FB diet. You will not tempt me. LOL Post it FROM FB. LOL
I’m African and I just ignore Africans that live in Africa and say we are too sensitive. That’s easy to say when you live in a black country. You have to live in this system, work here and be treated a certain way to understand some of these things. There is no way they didn’t have a good laugh at this boys expense.
Yep, sister is young and sounded very ignant for saying that. I thought it was just me reading too much into her toast. I saw a few people turn their heads like what did she just say.
I didn’t realize she was African, with that being said….. she appears to be one of those dumb ass Africans that feels accepted by white people and see no wrong in anything they do. I see this all the time with them. My boss’s black ugly ass is African married to a white man. You can’t tell her nothing.
Just for clarification, you think black Americans don’t care when their kids are killed because of gang violence?
? hey boo… pampers?
Third, H&M has 20 stores on the continent of Africa and I guarantee you no one there is faux “outraged” over this. They know they have life and death issues that need to be addressed.
Black americans are clueless when it comes to issues that ACTUALLY affect their lives. Instead of worrying about a sweatshirt, how about focusing on the degree to which the gay and trans mafia controls Black Lives Matter. Nearly everyone in a decision-making position is gay or “trans.” How much of the $100 mil in their coffers is being used to indoctrinate black people to allow men in dresses to take the place of real black women? Why isn’t that money going to improve the lives of nlack children, and How much has DeRay’s personal bank account improved as he promotes the gay agenda?.
Please start examining REAL issues and stop being so easily distracted by the media’s ” shiny objects.”
Get over yourselves.
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Over it
No, don’t take Puffy’s money; he’s going to exploit her son too just in a different way.
Here we go again with people trying to show fake love all for their own attention whoring benefit.
got nerve to talk about black people and cell phones, as many times as White people kids get kidnapped at the park right in front of the parents while they are on the phone, how many white kids die in a hot car every year b/c their parents were on the phone and forgot about them…..I could go on and on,,,, but you get my points
I didnt speak on the post because I know how sensitive people can be and how some people are not as sensitve when it comes to these issues. I am on the Mothers side…. sorry. We play into our own sterotypes but guys be homeboys with White guys that let them say “Whats up my Nigga allllll day long. New Generation and we need to focus on generational wealth without selling out. I do not think she is selling out. Had a Latino or White child modeled the sweater there would have been a different reaction but just because calling Blacks Monkeys offend a lot of people this had to go viral. They apologize, learned from it… now lets move forward
?*sits helmet on the blog and kicks feet up*
I think they did too. Have a good laugh.
Well, there’s the mom and she is speaking her truth/her reality. She’s right Americans try to use anything and anybody for their own selfish reasons.
Totally agree!!!!
We been rocking with them since little sis was a baby. 1984 lol
they gonna move forward alright. Bc Nothing is gonna happen to H & M. Folks will be mad today and report there for the Presidents Day Sale. They will see a blip from this but not a wave.
Exactly!!! This is small beans compared to issues that we have to address on the ground in our Black Communites. Yes I would buy my Son this hoodie if he wanted it. Just because Black people have been called Monkey people are so easily offended…but not offended by things that are happening right in their communites. GET REAL
I think they “care”, but I do not think they are moved to action. When a white cop shoots a black person, the protesters are quickly mobilized. But When was the last time protesters were mobilized over the shooting of a black child by a black gangbanger?
One of the emails that was unearthed during the clinton campaign specifically directed campaign members NOT to mention black on black murders in any discussions with BLM, because apparently they dont like having to address that. If you care about black people, what possible reason could there be for ignoring the NUMBER ONE cause of death of black teenage boys in America?
Are you intelligent enough to frame an eloquent question? Obviously not.
As many years as black Americans have been subjected to disparaging monkey names and disprectful monkey jokes, I can’t understand how this is being viewed as ok by some black people. But then again, she’s not American and can’t possibly understand my position on this.
well if that’s how she feels, that’s how she feels. oh well . lets move on now.
I bet she has an image of white Jesus hanging on the wall in her main room.
But there is a history and steotype with blacks being referred to as monkeys (refer to pic).
How many apologies must they apology before we realize it is intentional?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e6a2a1cda3649fad84b6987148818d4fc7db2820e6053614db08f2293e28e4a.jpg
The point is Americans tend to jump on the fake outrage bandwagon and the whole thing is forgotten by next week.
In general the obvious is respect on how we are viewed, portrayed, treated etc. That’s the real root of any issue. Whether or not we overcame issues within our own be it small sensitive etc is besides the general root of respect. No other race gets played conscious or subconsciously on the level we do. However I’m not interested in debating the moms feelings ?
I dont know how old you are or how you look at Black History but as I stated before. If my child wanted this pull over… I would buy it……maybe he is the coolest Monkey in the Jungle. Why do you feel that is saying Black folks are Monkeys. Although I have a lot of peole that look just like them in my family…giggles.. Whats wrong with Monkey. They are very intellegent Animals and if you gonna call me an animal… Monkey or Apes would be in my top 5
Stockholm syndrome. You should SAY something each and every single time. No passes. No exceptions. She’s a Brit and likely with a different race relations experience. They claim to be enlightened about race relations. Not.
It’s a typical pattern: someone says or does something they don’t like; they hop on social media and post angry memes; and by next week, they’ve forgotten all about it.
The subtle of nature of the gimmick goes over the mother’s head. It’s not that american black people are too sensitive, folks are just tired of these jabs that smack of ‘know your place’ in this world order, imo….
They’re probably banking on us forgetting. I won’t, I don’t want their low quality stuff anymore…not even for free
I think Puff juice should keep his million, and stop trying to capitalize on this. It’s her son and she’s not angry, why are “we” so quick to get fake mad about it? Same people thumb thuggin about it, will be in HM this weekend shopping, buying that cheap azz shyt with a smile
LOL what a dummy.
It’s not about Americans falling for gimmicks. It’s about not calling black people monkeys. If Brits don’t get that then shame on them.
Only fools allow others to ‘piss on your head and tell you it’s raining’ -Southern Proverb (LOL).
It really isn’t about her, it’s about her son and the other little black boys and girls like him. I don’t care about her opinion honestly. I’m still (faux) outraged.
And she’s trying to get PAID!
I’m appalled..but not surprised, bc she’s British. Living in America, I know the true meaning of calling a black child “monkey”. By her defensive remarks, she’s ignorant and also implying that this is OK…when it’s not.
The fallacy of the “black on black crime” rhetoric is that intra-racial crime is unique to black people. The media made up that b.s. to make people believe that blacks are the only race that commits crimes against one other and clearly a lot of people fell for it. The truth is, we’re just the only race to ever be put in a position to have crime magnified because the victim is the same race as the perpetrator. The FBI statistics have always shown that the majority of crime committed is done to a member of the persons same race. That’s mostly because neighbors are still segregated (for a lot of reasons). Yet, you never hear the media say “white on white crime” every time there’s a serial rapist white man raping white women, or when a white person shots up a white school or concert full of white people. Stop believing what the white media is feeding you about black people.
You’re very American then ?
“she’s not American”== boom.
1) This woman clearly has no integrity.
2) Thiis woman doesn’t know what “crying wolf” means.
3) lol @ anyone who thinks Diddy doesn’t have $1 million.
Sounded like a Remy Ma quote “are you dumb”
Somebody need to stay off LHHNY
But isn’t this sweater for all kids and he was just the model? Would this matter so much if the child was White, Asian or Hispanic?
People all over the world know that monkey had been used as an insult towards black people since slavery. That woman is money hungry. I feel sorry for her son.
I saw this meme and thought it was interesting. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ca30173cc1c445ceb40ab6e379b3ff3375b452118d2babaee4642297c1f681d.jpg
“I’m offended but confused. H&M IS my favorite store after Dillards…. They are normally corky and fun with their pieces, however, this was a wrong call to have the black model wear this sweater. ”
There wasn’t any outrage in my original comment just confusion about the decision. We may play into certain stereotypes but it’s a little ignorant on the mother end to not understand the racial social climate in the US.
The way the mother feels, shouldn’t not validate H&M’s decision. If that’s the case. She can continue to work with H&M if she wants but it seems like she’s on Damage control. Charlemagne made the mother a donkey for allowing the shoot and I didn’t see it. Now I do because of her dismissive attitude. Whether the intent was there or not, it was not a good look for the young boy.
Ok then, switch the sweaters cuz the script can flip…
Yet too many folks are making excuses for H&M’s poor judgement LOL. Proof is in the pudding.
But she lives in the country that was on of the main colonizers black people. She gets it. She just doesn’t care.
I”m talking about our people ignoring MURDER. There is only one group of children in America for whom MURDER is the #1 cause of death and that is black boys.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/24/juan-williams/juan-williams-no-1-cause-death-african-americans-1/
For all other groups of children, ACCIDENTS are the#1 cause. I don’t care about the occasional white kid accidentally being left in a hot car. It is tragic but accidental. What I care about is senseless SHOOTINGS and MURDERS of black children by our own people. Why don”t YOU care about that?
I just said the same thing. Her dismissive attitude is embarrassing. She needs to read on the Negritude Movement.
You think in the UK they’d get it. I mean weren’t their complaints from soccer…I’m sorry….futbol players about fans throwing banana’s on the pitch? I mean that doesn’t even happen in America. This was wrong and the H&M knew it. Their just going the Trump route of Divide and conquer.
Brits have an entirely different outlook..I grew up in the dirty south…I know what this name calling means..I would never allow my son to model this garbage., I have shopped in this store a few times…H&M just lost my business.
This isn’t just an American thing. Black futbol player get called Monkeys and have bananas thrown at them over there. That ho’s get paid to help with damage control. I mean she already sold out by letting the kid wear that stupid ass hoody
You bring up an interesting topic, because I end up banging my head against the wall with this international thing. I’ve mentioned that I live in Europe, and course where i live does not have the same historical legacies as the USA. That said, anti-blackness and white supremacy is global and I’ve witnessed black citizens here complain about racism. They are told to stfu because it could be worse for them and “at least they don’t live in America”. Black folks complain about police brutality, high incarceration numbers, offensive and insensitivity images in the media, but they are told to stop bringing American sensitivity into their country. As an American citizen, I just smh, because if non-American black people are telling you that you are racist, maybe you are racist and it has nothing to do with American sensitivity? Sorry for the derailed topic, but while this lady did not have a problem with the imagery, I am certain that non-American black people where I live had a problem with this imagery.
Y’all expect a British Kenyan woman to sympathize with american blacks?
Just cause we skin folk, don’t mean we kin folk.
Africans have a different history. Some can choose to forget, however the way my ancestors are set up, they won’t let me be ok with anything demeaning whether it’s simply a sweater or outright racism.
I am not protesting in the streets about this LOL but it is racially insensitive in my opinion.
Then let your little monkey wear the ish out of it Ma’Am, but here in the the UNITED STATES of YOU TRIED IT,..it’s a solid Fluck H&M. i am not surprised she see’s it differently at all. in fact i expected a non-response, or the above response and she delivered. “Not her way of thinking” says nothing , but supports the fact that in Africa, and the UK american history is not taught in the same manner, and BLACK History is a not even on the table. She gives two ISH about this controversy, because she is a part of the CLASS SYSTEM, and this child’s modeling gigs, no doubt are a part of keeping that status. Note to mother: Don’t fall for any modeling gigs in Libya….thinking the chain around his feet is a part of the outfit.
Throwing bananas at black players seems to be a pass time across Europe, particularly in Italy. Yet the number of times I hear white Europeans complaining about how they aren’t as racist as Americans (they don’t make the “white American” distinction).
She said “dodge bullets”, not killed.
I actually have seen quite a few protests against gangs and their members and this is especially the case when a child is killed. The news don’t always show this but I have seen people risk their life to stand up to gangbangers, people have started after school and summer programs so kids can be safe from violence. Community activists have gone out in the streets to diffuse a situation from turning deadly. Parents who kids have been killed have decided to turn their grief into making their life mission to try to stop another parent from having to experience losing a child because of gang violence. And with respect, I could care less about the Clinton campaign and her emails.
What different outlook is there to have? British people know as well as the rest of the world that “monkey” has been an insult to blacks since slavery. Britain was one of the major players in slavery. They aren’t all as PC and open minded as people try to claim like there’s no racism in Britain.
Right. They look down on black Americans.
Right but that doesn’t dispute the fact that this sweater is for all kids. He happened to look the best in it and they used his photo. So…..
She meant killed also, see her reply above.
ion know why this made me chuckle. I guess I need to go back and read lol
Some Africans here look down on us, so I’m not surprised the mother had this view on this situation.
We as Black American feed the hungry and give water to the THIRSTY.
Exactly! That stuff just never makes the news. The news never shows anything positive Black people do.
Yea…no. Black folks around the world know this insult well, just as they know about black face.
Former French Justice minister Christiane Taubira, has been compared to a monkey so many times and presented with bananas.
I dont think its that they all look down on Blacks in America, its a Cultural thing. Im so thankful for taking those Cultural Anthropology classes in College because it helped me being a Black American trying to understand how they feel although our skin color is the same.
Exactly!
I love how the same person who said that we should ignore the racism of Charlottesville keeps posting on this non issue.
Im happy you said this……..
her son is as handsome as can be… all I got for this …. raise your son… is what I say
This mother is speaking nonsense, she knows racism when she sees it, the only thing I could possibly think is that the retailer or someone else contacted her and asked her to speak out to try and smother the flames. Once in the late 90’s I was on vacation in London, it was a group of us black and mixed, some white young kids passed the group and one of the young white teens who passed us begin walking in a monkey or ape strut directed at the blacks in the group, so they know over there as well, that monkey is a racial derogatory as well as we know it in the USA.
Coming back home to visit the USA, it never ceases to amaze me how many black Americans think that racism isn’t that bad in Europe. I’ve not met any black person who thinks there is no racism in Britain or Europe in general, but they seem to think that the Western Europeans have tamped down on the racism. They have not.
O.T.
AUNTIE!!!!!!
Did you see Queens court??? They had you on the docket sis and I want to know if you gonna post on that our just sit in the Kona and be like wellllllllllll if thats how they feel…………. thoughts???
O.T.
AUNTIE!!!!!!
Did you see Queens court??? They had you on the docket sis and I want to know if you gonna post on that our just sit in the Kona and be like wellllllllllll if thats how they feel………….
I am not excusing H&M but at least we have a choice of not shopping there.
See this is the kind of ish that black conservatives do.
They like to point out even imaginary racism of supposed white liberals but when we talk about the racist policies of white conservatives they want other blacks to shrug it off or deflect to white liberals.
The sweater is not the issue. The sweater is for everyone. Its the decision to have a young black boy model the sweater. It’s the insensitivity. Do you think any black customers would buy that mess? Imagine if the child was Mexican and he wore a sweater stating, the coolest bean in the garden. Where I am from, calling someone of Mexican heritage a beaner is derogatory because some work the vegetable fields. Not saying it’s the same. But we can equate them.
People crack me up, deciphering what’s small, and insignificant and follow it up with statements of “We have bigger issues”….it’s comparable to saying: “Well I’ve only seen one roach in my house, it’s only one, i’ll let it go….knowing gotdamn well, there are millions more in your walls.
EVIL BEGATS EVIL. Stop trying to desensitize black people into believing things of this nature are small or reacting to it,means we are out of sorts…. …..They’re ALL ISSUES. NOTHING should be over looked.
My 6 year old son would run straight to this sweatshirt and just want to have it. We live in Kenya and our wildlife, our heritage, is absolutely wonderful and something to be proud of. My son who is yet to receive the memo on the whole black people being called monkeys and the n word and all that on any given day likens himself to one of the many animals he has seen on safari. Could be a lion, could be a giraffe and I enjoy those conversations with him so I sure as hell won’t be losing my mind if he wants to liken his character to the diverse family of monkeys that are anything but less than us. Shoot I know people watched Gorillas in the Mist. Only a fool would think they are superior to those animals when caught in a one on one situation with them. Still I digress. Perhaps the mother saw it from purely her son’s perspective and not a grown up’s one. Just a thought. Question we should all ask ourselves is if your young, innocent, black son really really loves this sweatshirt, would you say no or would you just say yes and walk in confidence knowing that your ancestors hail from a motherland that is full of this wonderful wildlife that said white people pay bucket loads of money to come see.
I just asked in another article about this, where are the parents?! Because he is a minor the parents had to approve first….so I figured the parents didn’t have an issue and I was correct!! Shameful
‘Opinions are like @$$holes.’
-(another) Southern Proverb LOL.
damn,… I love your comment…. #truth
Well said. ITA. We’re all intelligent enough to have opinions about more than one thing at a time. We don’t have to let little things go because there are bigger issues. A lot of little issues eventually become a big lissue.
Yes!!! Girl!!
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amen
LOL U.S. of YOU TRIED IT! Thaaanks!
Haven’t shopped this dump in years, with their cheaply made clothing. I’m not surprised by this mother’s response with her ignorant azz.
“Narcissist Sean Combs, who has fallen off recently, even offered the boy $1 million American dollars for a Sean Jean modeling contract.”
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I don’t think anyone is blaming the child model for the sweater he’s wearing, like somehow this is his fault.
Also, there’s no precedence for thinking a ton of negative media attention, and angering a formidable amount of their customers, is going to help H & M’s business.
Superiority complex thrives in all races. I know it when I see it. The British freed their slaves way before America did.
Yes, I’ve always been unimpressed by their offerings.
Ok if that’s what you want to believe
Americans aren’t the only people with social media. Also, Black Americans are the keepers of cool LOL so what we say matter.
I don’t get it either. FKA Twigs is from England. When she was dating that guy from Twilight (who is also English) she got so much racism. His Twilight and Harry Potter fans are obsessed with him. They were calling her the N-word and monkey on a regular basis. So I don’t know why people think Brits don’t know that monkey is an insult to blacks. Twigs said her stepfather explained to her when she was 10 that she would sometimes be treated differently because of her skin color. Why would he tell her that if Brits aren’t racist?
They also started slavery before America. They were a supplier of slaves to America.
Because she isn’t angry doesn’t make it right. You do know that right?
“Question we should all ask ourselves is if your young, innocent, black son really really loves this sweatshirt, would you say no or would you just say yes and walk in confidence knowing that your ancestors hail from a motherland that is full of this wonderful wildlife that said white people pay bucket loads of money to come see.”
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It’s not about him wearing the sweater on his own. The child model didn’t pick that out for himself. It’s about whomever thought it was ok to put that on him, knowing the implication.
Lmao, so the sweaters aren’t for all kids? Wow.
Didn’t H&M have other incidents of racist advertising? I know I’ve heard of at least one before. Either way, never shopped there and don’t ever plan to. Some things are just all hype. I can name at least 5 other stores that provide the same merch or even better without the ongoing racial undertones from their advertising and clothing.
One of the reasons the British freed their slaves is that enslaving people for profit wasn’t turning as much profit as it used to, in part due to technological advances, so it was better to make blacks and other downtrodden people consumers. And here we are today.
It had very little to do with altruism.
I read that in Open veins of Latin America by Eduardo Galeano. I don’t remember all of the details, but he spells it out pretty well there.
If my black son wanted it, I would say no, because I know the meaning behind the image in our racial social constructions in society. However, I do agree with you in saying that monkeys are actually highly intelligent animals, it is we humans who have it backwards, if we were to be compared to a primate monkeys and apes would be the ones to be compared to.
People still wear Sean John?
Respectfully ma’am…we are not reading from the same book. This is not about a lesson on Gorillas and their importance to the Ecosystem. This is bigger than that. Your child has had the privilege to grow up in an environment that is foreign to little black kids in Chicago, NY, Detroit, L.A., the list goes on…So we can’t afford to tell these children to overlook micro-aggression (which is what this is)…our children have to notice these things, because it points to bigger dangers, than hurt feelings, which is what you and some others are attempting to reduce this to. We have to pay attention, because it increases our chances chances of navigating a corrupt, and racists system…we are the true survival experts.
Way to deflect, that has nothing to do what I said what I said is not an opinion it’s facts.
I didn’t know Sean Jean was still being made, I never see it on anybody anymore. Kind of like Baby Phat and Apple Bottom Jeans.
It’s also been a prevalent racial slur a soccer events in parts of Europe. It’s feigning ignorance to say otherwise.
Ok, then that would be the issue that falls on the mother who clearly didn’t have a problem. On the flip side whoever doesn’t like it just wouldn’t buy it.
Lol. If she’s ok with letting her son ne exploited as a monkey so be it.
How is she any different from Kris Jenner?
Facts. I’m in agreement. All I’m saying is u can tell she’s looking down on comments in defense of her own child. How twisted is that?..
Which is the same thing many white conservatives do.
“As a Brit myself, I have to agree with her. I told you yesterday that H&M and other companies use hot button gimmicks to drive traffic and free press.” So are you suggesting, Sandra, that they should be allowed to project racist and anti-Black sentiment so they can get rich? As a Brit, if you and this mother support H&M’s nonsense, they you are a White supremacist. You abide by their edicts. You believe whatever they do is right, and if it means that they “accept us” or we get “paid,” then it’s okay.
White-washed Negroes are the ones that Harriet Tubman said she would shoot if they messed up freedom for the rest of us. She’s the one that said, “Thousands more would’ve been freed if they knew they were slaves.” Sadly, there are Black folks around the world who are slaves and they are okay with it.
I think that America has black folks in such a bind with non-stop police brutality and murders and various other aspects of the white supremacy machine that black Americans who have never lived elsewhere think that just about anywhere is better than the USA.
I totally get it, ’cause I used to be the same. But we are in for a rude awakening. Many things ARE better in Europe (less police murdering black folks, but they still beat the hell out of them in France, for example), but this is no utopia.
Yeah, I love primates. I love all animals actually. (Except roaches!) But yeah I agree this is totally not about animals at all.
She must really love that money…
Black people are sensitive in america they prefer to dress there kids up to emulate the drug dealers who are terrorizing and destroying their neighborhoods
I think black globally yes will have an issue with this
The mother does not have a problem with this situation, so why should the celebrities. WHY DON’T THE BLACK CELEBS PROTEST THE KILLINGS
IN CHICAGO, BALTIMORE AND DETROIT…….All the black celebs do is pick “the easy fights”, cowards……….this kid is raking in the money!!
I had a feeling this mom was a Brit. It’s not about falling for a stunt. It’s about the blatant disrespect, it’s about the company feeling comfortable using a child & racism for attention.
She so busy trying to put her son on in that f’ed up modeling atmosphere that she done told on herself. I think the one thing scarier than a racist is a person of color who doesn’t notice-or care. If she doesnt see the severity, then we all know exactly how her son will view himself and who he will marry..tuh
It’s not with the mother either, even if she’s ignorant. It’s more an Issue about representation. Some people might like it and choose to buy, however, I doubt they are black consumers.
So if someone were to call her son a monkey to his face would she be offended?
Yes, the majority of murders have always been intraracial, but the number of black on black murders FAR EXCEEDS white on white. Let”s look at actual numbers, not conjecture:
Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered, 94% of the time by another black person. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims, 262,621, murdered by other blacks. Although blacks are only 13% of the population, we are more than 50% of homicide victims.
Nationally, black homicide victimization rate is SIX TIMES that of whites, and in some cities, it’s 22 TIMES that of whites.
Let me repeat that — in some cities OUR PEOPLE kill each other at 22 TIMES the rate that whites do.
https://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2012/05/23/should-black-people-tolerate-this-n1263867
Blacks spend an inordinate amount of time worryng about what whites THINK of them, but refuse to address what we are DOING to ourselves.
And will continue to procreate children who will know not who they are….generational curse/willie lynch ish.
It may depend on if they are being paid to be called a monkey.
See, we sometimes get along here and I was trying to be nice by stating we all have an opinion.
HOWEVER…
Your “facts” are not facts. Simply your opinion. My opinion is that it’s insensitive. Yours is clearly otherwise. End of story. Good day.
she is a khoon
A lot of Africans are okay with being disrespected by whites. It’s all about money to them?????
Nothing I said was conjecture. What you initially said was conjecture and innacurate.
Hahaha!
The mom knows her place…..she a good lil monkey
I wonder if she is African. My son has an African friend (born and raised in Africa) and he said that a lot of these types of things go over his head and he doesn’t notice them. He said he just isn’t aware of some of the things that his American, black friends notice and speak up on. I’m not saying that all Africans feel this way but it could be a reason. Or she just simply doesn’t see anything wrong with it! It’s her right and her opinion.
Whatever child wants to wear them, then let it be. You’re absolutely correct.
This mother is speaking CAPITALISM.
This was just another job to her. Industry mothers have a different mindset. They are all about the bottom line. Industry mothers let their three year girls have plastic surgery. They let their boys wear make up. They let their 8 year olds sit on movie sets for twenty hours until child labor laws were passed only just a few years ago limiting set time to five hours a day. They are on a whole other agenda than every day parents.
This mother knew that her son wearing the monkey sweatshirt would cause a stir and make her son a star. She was on that photo set and H&M probably had another shirt for him and she said no, I want my son in the monkey one.
This mother is media savvy. And she will turn down Sean John. She’s holding out for a white designer’s company because she doesn’t want her son in her view and in her own words to be seen as a black victim or black martyr.
Racism is always about a subtext of economics.
Apparently.
Maybe you are unaware because you live in Africa…Ma’am that is blatant racism and if BLACK women here are not EXPLAINING that to their 6 year sons,where ever they hell they live, they are in for a world of trouble. We were called porch monkeys and hung from trees like strange fruit. This dont have NOTHING to do with knowing and loving your heritage. You should really need to educate yourself. You sound naive as hell.
Imagine if monkeys and apes were having this same conversation about humans. They would think being compared to us would be derogatory to them.
It is a fact that the sweater is for all kids. What I know about modeling is that they have some kids in the same outfit and kids in diff outfits. They take photos and then photos are picked based on who wore it best so to speak so that very well could’ve been the case here.
Lol…I guess she told y’all ??
Her son her issue.
Diddy s just trying to get that boy into his house, just as he had Usher living with him at 15.
Wonderful wildlife while the white man waited in the bushes to capture my ancestors to make them slaves to work for their sorry white behinds for free. Sorry black folks don’t take the same excitement watching African wildlife the same way white folks do.
Sean Jean is still sold in Macy’s. It’s mostly white middle aged men that buy it now so in that case, I guess his clothing line will remain successful. lol
Bingo! Lord knows Black Brits from all over the African Diaspora love mixing, bucking, skinning and grinning. Self-hatred and self-loathing is commonplace.
Or whatever parent wants to buy this for their child.
Yes. It could have been (which is conjecture, not factual).
HOWEVER, once again I am not here for any company, government body, or institution promoting something that is insensitive.
Please, adorn your children with this if you like it so much LOL. I won’t be!
SOME???? This mother is disgusted by the black offense and rage surrounding the photo. She’s on H&M’s side.
Mannnnn…..they be dragging her by her eyelashes on Queens Court. My feelings would be big HURT lol….. but she did poke that bear!!
Black children in the cities you mentioned are dodging bullets from BLACK gang bangers on the way to school each day. “Microagression” by a retail store is the least of their worries.
the momma look like an ape so i see why she’s ok with the pluckery
Kris Jenner?
Why does that obese man keep sending his minions over here to try to get Sandra to promote his fledgling youtube channel? Shouldn”t he be spending his time attending a weight watchers meeting?
i love her. i wanna send this “QUEEN” a card.. i didn’t know black folks like this still existed..
The mom saw a check period.
It’s sad she doesn’t see the problem with her black son being called a monkey as a negative connatation.
I don’t care if she’s British or not she’s black
So how is it okay for you to say she looks like an ape…SMDH…makes ZERO sense.
This wasn’t poor judgement or a mistake. H&M did this on purpose WITH the child’s mother’s approval. They met their objective. This shirt will sell millions as a collectors item.
Our one post racial black person and it depends on what kind of loan she is apply for, Rachel Dolezal has designed a hoodie protesting H & M. Said her son was called a monkey as well.
https://www.essence.com/news/rachel-dolezal-hoodies-hm
I don’t know about that, you may be right…but I also think that some African’s consider themselves “different” from “black” people so they really don’t feel some of these racist things apply to them.
While white kids are dodging bullets/knives to not get murdered by mom and dad before they leave the house to go to school.
mona move along.
Ur being ignorant now. Didn’t say I liked it. I’m simply using logic to point out how this became an issue with explaining how shoots work. The only fact that’s for sure is that the sweater is for all kids!
They must be African…bc I hear them speak like that as well and then turn around and look down on us like were below themThere’s a poster here who was completely blind to the issue and they irritated the hell out of me even though I know better.
Heres my question: How in the world are you African, and not know this? Did white people not invade your land, steal your natives and continue to profit from Africa TODAY? They dont discuss this?
Southern blacks are subjugated and docile when it comes to racism. Visiting family and friends there is always shocking at how southern blacks and southern whites are of the same slavery mindset.
And if you don’t wanna buy it kudos to you. You don’t have to. Nothing wrong with that.
So serious tho’. LOL
They think they are better. Period.
You say far exceeds but don’t bring up the white on white number to compare, like you did with the black on black. The numbers I’ve found say that blacks on black murder rate is something like 89% vs. the 81% of white on white murders, so really, not that much different. The point still stands that intra-racial crime is the most common for all groups, with the exception of American Indian women, who tend to be attacked at higher rates by white men.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
I don’t think a single person here will disagree with you that there are too many black victims at the hands of other black people (myself included). However, this conversation cannot be properly had without acknowledging WHY this is the case, including the racial gaps in education, employment and wealth; all of these lack of opportunities stemming from the effects of slavery, Jim Crow, red lining, the Homestead Act, active destruction of black towns and neighborhoods, etc. the list goes on and on.
I’m not excusing criminal activity. But human nature dictates that criminals will always exist, even in the most stable societies. Our goal is to lower the number of criminals and we (the government0 know how to do it, will we?
Interesting.
There is also a hustiry of blacks being called “ni@@er”, it was the last word many of our ancestors heard before the rope snapped their necks. It is the last word many black teens hear today before they are shot a couple of blocks from home. Yet blacks have no trouble ignoring that history and using that word with abandon.
Dont demand that whites remember our history if blacks themselves are so willing to forget it.
White people will spend hundreds on this shirt now and make it their trend on their kids.
Being that we live in a society where us Blacks are not well liked and unjustified things are in our favor ..she have to understand we as Black people get kinda sensitive we in comes to things regarding our color .. and on that note I? hope she doesn’t cry wolf when something don’t go her way regarding her Black King IJS ?
i saw it ?
This is exactly along the lines of what I was saying about my son’s African friend.
And Usher was only 15 when his mother sllowed him to go live, unsupervised, in Diddy’s home. Diddy once slipped and said something about them waking up “together” and having cereal.
So many African countries were colonized by Europe, so they’ve been indoctrinated. That’s why some Africans think their shyt don’t stink as bad as ours.
I had a Nigerian friend tell me that he drove by an area in the city we lived in and Black folks were hanging out the window and playing loud music. He said, “You see, we don’t do that in Nigeria.”
Africans are just like everyone else who has this stank attitude towards American Blacks, but then turn around and imitate us.
Lol
black folks dont know what CAPITALISM is.. only socialism.
It’s already been a theme. I’ve seen white ppl (not just them, but relevant cuz you mentioned it) do jungle themed baby showers so whats your point?
Especially when they had tons of other models there who were not black to put it on. Or they could have simply put the other shirt on him and let the white kid wear the monkey shirt.
Maybe in the 1950’s ?..Black people (myself included) where I’m from don’t play this mess. U will get yo az beat for this type of disrespect…
And the little issues that are ignored just make them think it is ok.
that’s because we don’t have no damn pride or shame. how can a people that lay in mud and eat with their fingers come here and look down on us. we let that happen. ??
It goes without saying there are bigger issues. I hate when people say that. I agree with you 100 percent.
more victimhood. “THEY LOOK DOWN ON US” ?????
She IS getting paid. Those model parents live off their kids. The white kids modeling pay mortgages and take care of their parents.
why is there no outcry on all the bathing ape ads with blacks? just wondering
TRUTH!
this lady just happy she dont gotta live in africa anymore and is making money. her whole family probably dead.. smh. why would she be outraged? she probably had had much bigger shit she’s had to deal with.
Mom took a page out of Laila AIi playbook when she said she ain’t got time to talk about black issues because it will mess with her coins.
She’s piss poor “Mum”. It’s not crying wolf, it’s knowing that monkey has been used all to often to describe african blacks. She’s just wants the checks. So essentially she sold her son for some small checks. It’s not an “American Blacks” issue, the Blacks in France dropped in on an H&M over that. And the same mom that would allow her son to be modeled in that shirt, will gladly take $1mil from Sean Combs.
I just can’t be Great and Rachel Just Can’t be Black. WELP
Herman Cain just sent her card FedEx overnight with Priority delivery.
I agree with the mom to certain extent. I am raising my children to believe we are so much more than just our skin. I understand sometimes racial issues do exist but not every issue is a race issue. Not everything that appears to be racist is actually racist. I’ve heard tons of black moms calling their kids monkey like it’s a pet name. So do I find an issue with this no. But at the end of the day H&M is a business and every ad, billboard and poster is a representation of their business. So because “black” is such a sensitive topic to some people, they should have thought a little harder about this ad and the outcome it may have. All in all if you don’t like the sweater don’t buy it.
He said Auntie did a post about him…. I didnt see it or maybe I was out sick that day
in fact it’s ONE of their worries, not the least. And a 6 year old child can’t stop crime…but he can be alerted to what racism and disrespect looks like And please don’t use the black on black crime line as a buffer for prejudices and racism. It’s so insulting. I wouldn’t tell my child, “”well son, a major corporation sees you as a monkey in the jungle, but at least Tyrone Jackson didn’t shoot you in the face, sit down and eat ya dinner…””” black on black crime is not an excuse against racism, especially if you can’t speak intellectually on the racial injustice within the justice system. Violence in black communities and over policing go hand in hand. …also understand BOBC is a buzz word and in FACT: BOBC is not simply black people’s doing.
Or hate, torment, and harass articulate black american kids for speaking proper but get outraged over a shirt. Twisted indeed.
You miss my point with respect to the clinton campaign. The point is that BLM didn”t want the campaign to raise the issue of black on black murders — ever.
You mentioned small, grass roots groups that protest. I sm familiar and have donated mobey to such grouos in both NY and Cleveland. These dedicated volunteers are working with very little funds.
I even spoke with the pr rep in Manhattsn Dist Attorney’s office when I wrote an article about children caught in the crossfire of gang warfare in Harlem. The WHITE pr rep She told me of the difficulty she has getting the NY Times to cover the killings unless the victim is a very young child.
But if BLM were to offer their considerable financial resources ( they have $100 mil), the protests would not be small and the media coverage would be glaring. But they REFUSE to spotlight this issue. Why? Why are the lives of black people important to other blacks ONLY IF they are snuffed out by a white cop?
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims, 262,621, murdered by other blacks. Why do we ignore these staggering numbers?
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Really? How is a monkey disrespectful? Again, trap set. This has been said so long…..you BELIEVE it. Come on we are much more intelligent than that. Quite allowing bs to sell you short.
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Yes. Just like Kris Jenner knew a s-ex tape would make her daughter famous. She probably produced that tape for all we know.
So is she supposed to raise her son to believe that every reference to the word monkey refers to him. Like come on now this is a bit of a reach.
It tickled me too
I agree with all of that. How can anyone with a brain think Diddy doesn’t have a million dollars. Ciroc will earn him a million dollars. Not to mention his clothes are in Macy’s, Wal-Mart, Mens Wearhouse. He sold 1/3 stake of Sean John for 70 million alone. Come on now. The man is making money. I don’t even know about his shady record business dealings but I’m almost certain he’s passively making money off some artists.
The mud huts and eats with their fingers wasn’t supposed to be funny but my pepsi is all over my desk now..lol
Those folks from Africa that come to America crack me up. They come here and thinking they are all that while the white American media always shows the, hungry, begging for water, walking 25 miles for rice and schools on dirt floors 24/7. They never show them balling like they was in the movie Coming To America. All we see is a child from Africa with a bloated stomach with flies on their faces and yet they want to complain about us. Have several seats.
It already has
So yall like to be called monkeys in Britain huh???…OK…Yall like it …I love it!…Monkey child it is…#MOVINGON
You don’t get to determine what we are sensitive about. If you want others to refer to you as a monkey and it’s okay, then have at it, but we will not be silenced when racism raises it’s ugly head. For you not to see the insult or pretend it’s okay tells me you are on the same mental level as this child’s mother. I’ll tell you what…they don’t do this crap to other groups, and they better not do it to the LGBT community. This has been going on since we got here and we will not sit down, shut up and stop being “sensitive” about it just because you and others like you don’t see a problem with it. Also, you wouldn’t be telling those other groups to stop being “hypersensitive” either.
Exactly Mona, I see what you’re saying.
I don’t know. Ask them why those choose to refer to us as monkeys and then you’ll get your answer. Don’t blame us for being insulted. Blame them for being ignorant.
You opined that I was responding to what the “white media” is ” feeding” me. That was conjecture on your part. My positions are FACT-based. The FACT that we kill each other at SIX TIMES the rate that whites do nationally, and at TWENTY TWO TIMES the rate of whites in some cities has nothing to do with what the media says. IT IS FACT.
Every educated black person KNOWS we are heartlessly killing off an entire generation of our OWN young people. What do people like you gain by ignoring that reality?
I KNOW! I’m come back later with wine. To read
I understand what you’re saying when you speak on how you raise your children. Yes we should be doing that but we also shouldn’t intentionally put our children in situations that will depict them in a derogatory manner. If the mother doesn’t have an issue with it, that’s her business but realize there are people that do and respect the reasons why. And yes you hit the nail on the head! These companies have to be more careful and accountable for what they put out there!
So why was the black child the one that got to wear the monkey hoodie? The mother is Kenyan living in Sweden. P Diddy has not fallen off, and should take back his offer.
Right!! SMH
I looked at all the sweatshirts before this blew up and the shirts look the same on all the kids. Yes, green against his skin tone looks good but so does orange. They could have simply switched the shirts. The fact that they picked him to wear this one is interesting. It also goes without saying that the sweatshirt is for all kids…all the clothes on the whole site for kids are for all kids to wear, I’m not sure what point you are making but – again, it goes without saying…the point is that they didn’t think that this would be controversial or maybe they did! If you don’t understand putting the only black kid in a sweatshirt like this when throughout history blacks have been compared to monkeys – then you live in a different world than the rest of us…and you are entitled to. Just like people are entitled to ACTUALLY see the wrong in this and not shop at H & M.
Exactly!
He’s making a killing because he always owns everything he’s involved in. Everybody made a huge deal about Bey and Jay buying that huge (and tacky) mansion in Bel Air. But, something must be off with them bc it took them years to buy a house in LA and they kept getting outbid on houses they wanted. Diddy went to Holmby Hills, where the wealthiest people live, and bought a $40 million dollar house before they even let it hit the market. That man has money.
Bih we were defenfing your child and what is right but ahe straight outta Africa ahe kiss the crakkka ass anyway so fk her NEXT lets stick to American black issues let them handle them#
And “they” don’t care neither. British French or German….were still black to them too
Hey girl I get what you are saying and agree.. The difference I notice is they (Africans) don’t care nor want the white man’s stamp of approval.. So they don’t let what the whites think of them define them… They seem to rise above..
The mother is from Kenya and you are correct. Some Africans say that these things go over their heads, but why are they in the US? Who fought for the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Uninformed and taking advantage of those who are.
There is nothing worse than a complacent Black person who excuses the White man’s evil by telling us to sit down, shut up, and “quit being so sensitive.” The difference between those of us who stand up and those of us who don’t is one group uses its power to create change while the other group sits around making excuses for why the enemy does what he does and are okay with the status quo.
You are killing this comment section! Great commentary every time.
Not only calling us monkeys but they called us monkeys because they didn’t view us as humans. They said we were animals. They said we had smaller brains. They compared us to monkeys as an insult. Anyone who is okay with that sentiment, the history behind it and wants us to get over it needs to go f*ck themselves.
Yet, African Americans fought for civil rights and still do. Do they? why not stay in Africa and fight against oppression instead of coming to the US to talk smack? that’s my answer to them when they come at me with the BS.
LOL Liah.
lolol!!!!!
WELL A LOT OF AFRICANS THAT LIVE IN BRITAIN WENT THERE ON THEIR OWN ACCORD VERSES BEING SOLD OUT BY OTHER AFRICANS AND SOLD TO CRACKERS TO BE SLAVES IN AMERICA B/C THEIR A$$ WERE TOO LAZY TO WORK THEIR OWN PLANTATIONS OR FEED THEIR OWN BABIES MILK FROM THEIR BREAST SO ALOT OF BLACK BRITS WANT TO BRING THEIR A$$ES HERE BUT TALK ISH WHEN AMERICAN BLACKS AREN’T UP FOR THE DISRESPECT AND HAVE THE SENSE TO REALIZE WE DECIDE WHERE OUR ‘POWERFUL’ DOLLAR GOES. IT HASN’T EVEN BEEN 60 YRS SINCE WE WERE STILL IN THE JIM CROW ERA, BEING BEAT IN THE STREETS AND HIT WITH WATER HOSES. BLACK BRITS AND OTHER AFRICANS GET OVER HERE AFTER THE STRUGGLE TO ENJOY THE FRUITS OF OUR ANCESTORS BLOOD TURNING THEIR NOSES UP AT US. GOOOOO HOME!!!!………….JENNY JONES!!!!
It seems Africans see the bigger picture in a lot of cases..
I’m screaming!
You are absolutely right. I would never have my children drapped in anything that is potentially racist. I know that racism exist so i dont make a big deal about it because if i did then i would be making a big deal out of almost everything. Especially where i live. GIRLLLLLL… I’ve learned to pick and choose my battle. If i make everything a battle then it starts to look a bit like “the boy who cried wolf” if you catch my drift. So I fight my biggest fights and ingore those that wont benefit me either way.
Please name these stores….I shopped at H&M for my son and daughter….it’s there favorite store!
I agree!…Because that big issue was once a little issue…I however am not fighting for a cause that a Black Britain mother agreed too..If she wouldn’t have agreed than it wouldn’t have been done…Oh well!!!…I like H& M summer dresses anyway….Glad I dont have to give them up
Nothing to see here sis lol
Thank you so much for your comment. Crime is crime. White people get killed by other white people. So black people killing other black people is just crime…crime in the black community needs to stop. People saying things like black on black crime also needs to stop. It’s just crazy to act like, black people should not be outraged about this and that because of “black on black crime”…GTFOH…we can be outraged about all of it. To assume that people aren’t doing anything or outraged about crimes in the black community is an assumption that is just crazy.
I don’t believe in including race in everything, and I don’t think we include race in everything unless it’s blatant. It’s not like we go around trying to sniff our racism. However, when we see it, we have to combat it. No other group is expected to be complacent like Black folks. When we protest, we are suppose to be peaceful. When we get attacked (this add is blatantly racist), we are supposed to “not be so sensitive.”
Think about this: What other group is disparaged like Black people? A person can say one word about the LGBT community, and it’s all over. No other group is disparaged, and when they are, they come out hard and bold, yet Black folks aren’t supposed to see race. If a person is blind to race, then they remain ignorant.
Then white it skin bleaching off the charts over there especially in Nigeria. I saw a report on that and freaked out. They beat the sistahs over here wearing a weave. They go all out to see white folks approval. I see it everyday and I laugh to myself like they see you as a overseas ninja.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjav9JaLkmI
##PREACH….However her dumb ass was actually looking out for that male Black son …And she failed!….SHE is the reason the pic was posted…WE are the reason H&M apologized…
People on here saying africans don’t like black americans isn’t true most african like black americans culture and had a lot of respect for you guys for all you have done but when africans came to america back in the day blk americans would bully us in school and make us feel bad about where we was from it was you guys that made us felt unwelcome and made us realize that just because we share the same color doesn’t mean we are the same people
Totally understand!
I understand what you mean. I think this is a case of SOME Africans don’t like SOME black Americans, and the reverse of course. We must remember that we are fed the same stupid ass stereotypes about each other from the same nasty source, which is not black people. We don’t control our images and how they are spread!
I dont think some black people are complacent i think they just know that racism exist and the shit doesnt suprise them anymore. But your speaking very highly of yourself clearly so let me ask you something, Do you only support black business. Only shop at black owned stores, only use black owned products, only wear clothes and shoes created by black people. Because if not your entire write up is a contradiction. I can read between the lines and put together what your trying to say and it makes a little bit of sense but you sound bitter and angry. We all black baby we get the same stares as you when you go the store, the same hurddles thrown at us, being overlooked, we get the same treatment and have the same issues with these white people. You can complain about everything or pick and choose your battles.
nextgin is talking about the context for which the word is used. Look at the t-shirts of the Black boy and the White boy. That’s not problematic to you?
Mum is a koon. Now get ovah dat.
I took sensitive to this because Sunday I was called a N@$$&r in front of my children. This is the first time I have ever been called that(to my face) and then for my children to have to witness it was mortifying!
My reaction is what humiliated me the most but I had to show them that racist disrespect could not be tolerated and also shown them even though I’m super mom im also human and will make mistakes…after apologizing for my actions. I didn’t excuse her or make justifications…I let them know she was wrong and this is how most of the world view us
No I get it. I definitely agree. Maybe my comment was taken out of context.
Wearing anything that says I’m the coolest monkey is fking racist and I don’t have to BUY all black anything to call racism out when I see it. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Now on the other hand. Its not about the Mother or the SON. Its about H&M getting away with it.. You’ll always find a “house ni@@er” to do your bidding so her being OK with it doesn’t surprise me at all.
Google some. It’s your choice to shop where ever you want. Racist company or not
Ok you win…enjoy the rest of your day
Why are we trying to teach other adults common sense?
Yes, I do support Black businesses. Of course I don’t only shop at Black businesses. I shop for what I need, and if a Black business doesn’t provide that, then I won’t go there. I buy groceries. There are no Black-owned full-service grocery stories in my area, so I go to ones that are. Your assessment of my post is erroneous. What I said has nothing to do with shopping, but with being a voice for your people. I sound bitter and angry. Let’s stop right there. That’s what you are hearing. There’s a thing called passion. It takes fine-tuned ears to decipher between anger, bitter, and passion. What did I say that was angry or bitter? I pick my battles very carefully, and you know what? Sometimes I see a bigger picture than some others, and if that translate to “speaking very highly” of myself, then so be it. That’s how I roll. Trust me, I pick and choose my battles very carefully. This is a battle that’s very well thought out. The boy was insulted and called a racial slur, and for me, that’s problematic even though he isn’t my child. I’m glad people are fighting this battle because H&M took the shirt off the market. Bravo!
The fact that you don’t know its disrespectful explains a lack of education, the school system not teaching our HIStory and WE not learning it for ourselves. If you knew your history, you’d know why. SMH
Exactly!
Thank you! There are way too many house ni@@ers in the world, and that’s why White folks feel very comfortable disparaging us. They don’t do it to other groups. Some of us are so willing to accept it, write it off, and ignore it.
You are absolutely right, it’s been said too damn long. No we don’t believe it and we aren’t taking that shit anymore.
WOW: on the other hand it could make you look empowered and passionate and cultured. Showing my children that our ancestors didn’t die in vain, speaking up, standing up. Not saying anything makes you look, weak, bitter and oppressed. Not every issue is BUT THIS ISSUE IS….
I was called every name in the book for saying this same thing on this blog the other day. Americans tend to be so egocentric and think the world’s views are their views and that everybody should think and react to every situation the same way we do. I’m glad the mom spoke out. This was definitely a non issue in my opinion, until all the bandwagon celebrities jumped on it and made it an issue.
You’re right. If common sense were common, everyone would have it.
I would never buy that sweater for my children either but that wasn’t my point.
Wow! I’m sorry you and your children had to go through that, but I’m glad you handled it. Even if you did so in a way that humiliated you, at least you were able to talk about it with your children and show them that, yes, mommies are human too.
Black Americans are the most insecure people on the planet who are triggered by every damn thing and of course it was Americans who started this. It’s not a big deal and I can’t count how many times I’ve heard people refer to their young kids as monkey. Get over yourselves is right
The thing is that wasn’t a picture in her personal picture book at home. Now that she allowed it, it represents US ALL….If we start calling ourselves Cool Monkeys, then don’t get offended when a whyt person calls you a ni@@er.
Self made baby I work for no white man. Just to clear that up!!
Troll.
Troll 2.0
I stand firm in my position that what H&M sells on a shirt is of no significance to the majority of black Americans, and certainly not to the 15 year old black boys for whom murder is the #1 cause of death. When black children in the most advanced nation on tbe planet face MURDER as their #1 cause of death, wasting an inordinate amount of time focussing in anything else is absurd.
There has always been an avenue to protest a company’s perceived “racism”. It is the same means that was used in Montgomery, Alabama over 70 years ago — the almighty dollar. If you don”t like what they are selling, don’t shop there. But to spend day after day obsessing over one word on a shirt is illogical. Most blacks will spend more time thinking about this shirt than they spent thinking about the two black children whose throats were slit by black men two weeks ago, and THAT speaks volumes about our priorities as a race.
Yup.
Thanks. If being a troll means I have my own opinion, I’ll take it. People can express outrage, but why does every single little thing have to be come a national issue?
Agreed!
Oh , mk. Now I see. She is a Black British MUM.
So they seem to not be affected by the hidden messages.
Whatevs..
If that makes her happy, so be it…
I wasn’t calling you a House Ni@@er, I was making the point that there is always a “Sell out” that’s the only way they could’ve gotten away with it.
Because sometimes it is a national issue and you don’t get to determine what is/isn’t. If you are okay with a little Black boy being called a monkey and that’s not problematic to you, than that’s your issue, but for the rest of us who will NOT sit back and allow then to disparage us, it’s a big deal…big enough for them to take the shirt off the market. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. A broken quiet one stays useless.
That skin bleaching is horrible and is an issue over there in some places… But it isn’t the whole population that does it.. Just like over here all American born blacks are not on welfare, smoke weed, and wear weave. I am saying there seems to be some type of security, sense of self, or pride I see in a lot of the Africans I come across.. They are able to see above the bs and see the bigger picture.
Why didn’t they put that sweatshirt on one of the white kids. Exactly they knew what the hell they were doing. The mom comments are really sad because her son will face racism and not know how to handle it.
oh no bro.. my bad lol. Anthony burdain has a show where he was in Lagos.. check it..
Whose ass did you whoop? That was a no bueno being called outside your name period.
Trolling with the TRUTH
YOU CAN RAISE YOUR KID HOWEVER BUT PLEASE DON’T LET THEM BE BLIND TO A SLAP IN THE FACE AKA BACKWARD’S HAND COMPLIMENT. JUST AS YOU CHILD SHOULD KNOW THEY ARE A KING/QUEEN THEY SHOULD ALSO KNOW THE POWER OF THE GREEN,THEIR GREEN AND IF A PERSON FEELS OFFENDED BY BLATANT BS & INSENSITIVE DISRESPECT THEN WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY WITH A BUSINESS AND CALL THEM OUT. AND YES A LOT OF MOMS CALL THEIR KIDS A ‘LIL MONKEY’ JUST AS A LOT OF BLACKS CALL EACH OTHER N*CCA BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY WON’T BUST A WHITE PERSON IN THE MOUTH FOR CALLING THEM THAT. THE LIMIT WILL KEEP GETTING PUSHED JUST TO SEE HOW FAR THEY CAN GO AND IT’S UP TO US TO CONTINUE TO STOP THE BS AND YOUR DOLLAR IS WHAT THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND. MONEY IS THE UNIVERSAL STOP TO RACISM AND DISRESPECT. AS T.I. SAID ‘YOU WILL RESPECT THIS BANKROLL’!!!……….JENNY JONES!!!
Oh Ok!! That is a very true statement. His mom had to agree beforehand.
Good for you! I’m glad you have your own business. I always celebrate Black-owned business. Where did I say you worked for the White man? Please, do clear that up for me because I’m not trying to insult you.
My perception is that no one called him a monkey. Is monkey a racial slur because a monkey is brown? Is there a negative connotation with a monkey because he swings in trees? Are monkeys somehow more uncivilized than any other animal? Would it have been okay if the shirt said “coolest alligator in the bunch?” Would people have been just as offended?
How about dealing with the fact that it is a stereotype? And how about the fact that ALL the righteous black anger is perpetuating the stereotype??
I’m not a monkey by any means. And what other people think or believe about me is not my business.
i would not give that boy a dime the mother is stupid and sean combs should keep his money from this pig. britishblacks are the biggest brown nosers on the planet.
you are not making any sense go put a t shirt with a jew on it with a oven see what will happen to you.
ABSOLUTELY!!! Never ever blind to the bullshit especially racism. Where we live there is 1000 sprites per 1 black person. You learn how to maneuver around those MF’s. I teach my kids what the school aint teaching them. Had full conversations about who we are and where we came from. Never to allow disrespect and not to take direct racism lightly. Any form of direct racism is a sign a personal disrespect nad both my children no i dont play about that. But as a parent its my choice on what i expose my children too and somethings just wont benefit them either way.
Look at the t-shirt. He wore a t-shirt labeling him a monkey. It’s a racial slur because they say we look like monkeys. You need to ask them why they call us monkeys. We didn’t create that stereotype. You need to Google why Blacks being called monkey’s is offensive. It’s not about what other people think or believe able you because many White people see Blacks in many different negative ways, although they copy us, steal from us, spend time thinking about us. They want to eat us. The issue is not with US, but with THEM.
I never really looked at it like that. Thats a good point.
To me, the mom is a house negr o. She is saying :”Do you know how much money I got from this company by letting them dress my son the way they want? No, you don’t. And if I want to get the checks coming, I gotta be grateful.” Okay, woman, why don’t you work so your child can focus on his school and kid activities? I want to hear the father’s input about this. Because you sound like a broke-a ss, uneducated lady who doesn’t care to protect her son from bullying and mocking comments.
What a paycheck or dollar bills will do for a foolish Black woman. -she would be singing another tune and crying about how traumatizing her child is if this was a school teacher who placed her son in the same sweatshirt.
But, since she wants to keep her son’s little checks coming in…she has to give the ole heave-ho with a jive turkey dance.
Hey, it happens some times. No hard feelings. It’s hard to determine a person’s words over the Net.
They call us some of everything! And they have done everything to us! We will never change how THEY see us until we change how we see us. Having a thin skin about being called a name or some perceived injustice is one of the things we need to change. You think I’m a monkey, then hell yeah I’m gonna be the coolest one in the bunch. You think I’m the token black? Eff you, pay me! We allow them to hold us back with their perceptions and their name calling, when we are the only ones who can take the steam
out of it by not giving it any power to provoke negative emotions.
Black British were not historically enslaved like Black Americans. -therefore, they do not possess the same hurt & mentality which is the deep-seeded pain of African Americans.
They are not necessarily brown-nosing but living in their truth. -most are educated & not plagued with the issues of the family members suffering from the the likes of j1m cr0w laws, slavery, etc..
I was referring to grass root activists but the majority of the people I was talking about are people living in the community who have decided to take a stand against gangs. Since u bought the emails again, I read that BLm and the campaign managers had a meeting to discuss issues in the black community and BLM was disappointed in the fact she felt they were just a group who only focused on police brutality and when they said we want to focus on ALL issues concerning black people, she felt differently. So instead of going back and forth, they decided to move on. When you write ignore, who are talking about? Many black people don’t put their head in the sand when it comes to violence affecting their own community.
than i ask: what is your platform for the murdered children? Allow me to be a part of it. REDIRECT our focus, RIGHT HERE and NOW… There are many Roses in this community that i would bet my next 9 to 5 payroll check, that would love to be directly a part of th solution, beyond this posts…SO allow us to be apart of your means…. You see, Im not a police officer, I am a mother of 2 children, that i have raised to be solid educated adults….b and i don’t have the capacity to fight crime in my city solo…..i do however have the capacity, to put out the smaller fires, in an effort to negate the bigger issues….I respect you HAVING this opinion…I would better respect understanding the how, the when and the what…YOU use to fight the bigger issues
Right I’m sitting over here like damn they making some good points. i think my mentality only allows me to feel how i feel in the moment. But once I started thinking about it I’m like i don’t think i was looking at the bigger picture here.
White folks get triggered at the thought of extinction and/or black people standing up against them.
Yes some were slaves matter fact plenty were slaves ,the point is racism is alive and well overseas as well if we keep letting this slide we start to become jokes and Martin ,Malcolm and Medgar evers work starts to become in vain.
Three marriages under age 35. That’s scary.
I hear the footsteps of outrage coming based on this comment I’m about to make but that boy’s mother looks like the type that will literally and physically sell her son’s ass for money to the first pedophile that comes along. We, as parents, and grandparents, have absolutely got to do a MUCH better job of protecting and raising our kids and grand-kids. It’s not a maybe. It’s a MUST.
OK, so it’s our responsibility to change how they see us. Nothing we do or will ever do will change how they see us because how they see us is not our problem. The issue is THEM. Don’t blame Black folks for what they do. Call them out on their evil and ignorance. If you want to be called a monkey and you are okay with it, then so be it, but we will not stand by and allow it. You do not understand White supremacy. You are acting as if Black people carry the weight of their evil and their ignorance, but we don’t. It’s a system, TMW. It’s more than just calling us out of our names. Think deeper. I’m not a monkey; I’m a human being. Are you a monkey?
Name calling is steeped in racism and how they see and treat us. It’s not simply provoking negative emotions, but then again, if it hits them in the pocketbook, good! Let me ask you something. Why do you think we are the only ones they attack? It’s because of how we see ourselves? Many of us see ourselves as kings and queens. We are the mothers and fathers of civilization. If you see yourself less than, then go ahead and allow them to treat you like that. They have conditioned the Black mind so long, that some of us just don’t get it.
You are welcome. I tried not to post a dissertation, as I was once accused of doing (lol), but this topic warranted a long response.
you’re kind…im just another rose with an opinion. but thank you for understanding the point i am attempting to make
I recall when I was pregnant, my old boss whose white said to me “what are you feeding your little monkey today?” I was offended. GAVE her a look like WTF u just say???? It’s offensive and I don’t care where u come from.
My dad told me that back in his younger days they use to say things of this nature to blacks and use to ask them to show their tails. It’s very offensive because we know what they mean deep down inside by that comment.
well what do you want us to do when its her child.. call the man on her.. I’m just asking becaseu i agree with everything you just said.
And I don’t even like the zoo or animal and safari type baby bedding stuff either. Hate that sh*t.
I hear you. I don’t know what can be done. I just feel so bad for kids these days and how their parents are no longer raising them but are exposing them for money and these kids are babies 7, 8 and 9 years old.
Let’s remember, pre civil rights, while blacks were being violated in their homes, black men being drug out of their homes in front of their families and lynched….Rose Park’s issue was “JUST” a seat on the bus. Never is it a SMALL issue.
That’s a stupid attitude. Racism is perpetuated by the police, the government, the schools, the companies. And words they use to designate the black population are not innocent. The idea behind is that the white people are the real cerebral human being and the black people are creatures, animals. A whole literature has been written about it. H&M knows that even if they insult black people to their face, they will still buy their 12$ jeans (as Wendy Williams said it).
Wow! Great Point
This is why you can not stick your neck out for some black people.
They will leave you high and dry.
The mom doesn’t care that H&M essentially called her son a monkey as long as she cashed that check.
The only person I can control is me, and I CHOOSE not to give anyone elses’s words power in my life, because I have no control over what other people think, feel or say.
They may never change how they see black people in general – you said so yourself. However, if you start with you, and you change how one person sees you, then that person may think twice about how stereotypes apply to all people.
I believe one positive voice is louder than a million negative ones. I believe I can only control what’s happening with me. That doesn’t mean I don’t get mad. I hate any type of injustice. This just doesn’t qualify as an injustice. People who have a negative connotation of what monkey means as it relates to black people are upset and giving more power to the negative connotation.
Hey, that happens to me too. Sometimes, I get in the moment, have to step back and take the raw emotion out of it. You made my day.
I agree. People are VERY HYPERSENSITIVE due to social media. What if the kid was not dark, but light skinned. Would this be a topic? NOPE! You so called woke MoFos crack me up. But ya man still wears that Primate Bape Clothing and Gorilla Unit crap, ole orangutan looking arse. Stop it, and let that kid make some bread modeling. Geez…
Just because she’s the mother doesn’t mean her opinion on this is more valid than anyone else’s. The term is offensive, period. Even if she claims she’s not offended by it, black people have a right to be offended by it.
Racism is also perpetuated by black people who continue to give racism power. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist – it does, it’s real, and we face it in a million tiny ways every single day. And guess what, even if they don’t call you the n word or monkey to your face, do you think they aren’t thinking it? Is it better for them to think it and not say it?? You have no control
over their thoughts and the only control you have over what they say is how you react. I choose not to give their words power. I guess i’m stupid though.
Exactly.
Ignorant black people kill me. The white man will pee on their leg, and they’ll tell you it’s rain. SMH.
The irony of people going on social media to btch about people expressing opinions on social media.
PREACH
Can someone, anyone, ANYONE, please tell me why you get so angry about the use of the word monkey, but you fully embrace the use of the word n!gger. Far more whites called blacks n!gger than monkey yet you call yourselves n!ggers on a daily basis.
You also call your sons “little n!ggers”, call your boyfriends and husbands “my n!gger,” call your good friends “my n!gger,” allow your white friends. and hispanic friends to call you “my n!gger”, allow your young children to memorize the lyrics to songs replete with the word “n!gger” and have generally accepted this vile word that was used by whites as far back as the slaveships and auction blocks.
How, exactly, do you compartmentalize your selective racial “outrage?”
Parents rape and murder their own kids… So I don’t care what the mother thinks, she’s obviously abusive for allowing her son to go through that. It takes a village to raise a child, and sometimes parents need other adults to step in to show them the light.
READ THE CONTRACT. We know how Diddy do…
who is “you” i dont call my son monkey or the nword. monkey is racially insensitive based on the historical context of it. case closed end of story.
Black Americans are obsessed with race you call yourselves BLACK. Putting race as your identity before anything else!
im unfamiliar with the context of monkey to people from England which this family is clearly from. i dont see why the mother cares either way, her son will benefit with the added exposure.
No if it was any other animal other than a Monkey, Ape or Gorilla I am sure it would have been okay. And yes everything you mention above and yes and yes. That is something some white people refer to black people when they are not calling them the N word and no way is this a stereotype. A is stereotype is that all black people are lazy or all black women are angry,all black people like fried chicken, or only black people have family reunions.
Comparing Black people to Monkeys has a long, dark simian history. So it is obvious this British African Mother knows no Black History.
No, I believe that language constructs individuals. Thoughts and actions are controlled and limited by language. Once you understand words, you are unable to escape them. Words categorize people, tell them their place in society. When your doctor tells you that you are a schizophrenic, you will act like a schizophrenic. That’s how ideology works : an authority designated your name, your gender, your race and you will act like all these arbitrary categories are natural. So I think fighting for words is important.
I think it is ignorant Britt or not, we all know the history of that word….towards blacks…my sons are black and asian …I would never allow it…no matter what’s being paid…….I don’t have to be the king …but I’m damn sure not your monkey
lmao. Diddy would probably have something about sex in that contract.
No, case NOT closed. I am seeking a logical answer to my question. If you are incapable of giving one, perhaps someone of a higher intellect can.
N!gger is also racially insensitive and has been since the first black slaves hit these shores in the 1600s. Yet you cannot walk down any street in America without hearing black men (and women) using this word every 3.5 seconds. WHY DO BLACKS EMBRACE ONE RACIALLY INSENSITIVE WORD, YET GET UP IN ARMS OVER ANOTHER?
Yeah, because black American parents are doing such a stellar job of raising their own children.
If she cool with her son being a monkey then thats wassup.. But my sons WOULD NOT have modeled that hoodie.
Switch with one of the other kids but im not with it..it’s bull..racism lives n she knows it!
Most of the black people I know DON’T use that term. But you’re generalizing about “blacks”, the same way racist white people do.
You have no idea how coon-ish you sound right now. Smh
So What u tryin to say
I am not sure about that, if black know Black history then no Black people do not call their kids monkey, I know white people do because I have heard them say it before in television, in movies, and on the street. And what do Black people have to be insecure about everybody is insecure about something. Now if you want to comment on not being given the same opportunities as white people and being held back by systemic racisms and institutional racisms other than that you have not made a point about nothing.
that is incorrect.black people are not saying n!gger to themselves. it is a big difference between ER and A. some disagree. 2 black people saying n!gga to each other is not a racial slur.
She def sounded uneducated by the way she was typing/spelling. We normally see teenagers spell the way she does. I don’t want to say it’s because she’s British because don’t they speak proper English there anyway? So being British can’t be the excuse.
That background is not necessary to be offended by a racial epithet. Anyone can be offended by insult, naturally and understandably.
Added exposure? Thats all that matters right? Gotcha
My son played one of the babies apes on Planet of the Apes, I didn’t want to work and needed the money ?!
One Halloween, a white coworker and I were talking about what costumes we would wear and she “suggested” that I be Aunt Jemima. I just looked at her and laughed but my other African American coworker got soooo mad. And she couldn’t understand why I didn’t get mad. Sometimes when certain things don’t affect you in a negative way it’s not high on your radar, so it doesn’t get a reaction out of you. I think that may be why his mom didn’t get mad. As a mother, I wouldn’t have let that go on but that’s just my personal preference.
Im in actual AWE that this was even asked. F*ckin AWE.
If the evolution ever happens, I volunteer to “Harriet Tubman” the ones that would hold us back. This mother and some of the posters in here today would be first in line.
This is why we are in the situation we are in today..ignorant people of color who don’t know their history or self worth. Some ish isn’t an issue, but underlying racism is.
Because she has grownup British and someone in the family maybe Mother or Father are probably from Africa or both or maybe not, however she just does not get it. In addition, the culture growing up in Great Britain is totally different then America so some things over there like the term Monkey or Ape may be acceptable in her world. And what is she going to do when the back slash of the term monkey comes
back to her son and he is being taunted? Remember the racist pin the Princess of Kent wore to the Luncheon where Megan Markle attended. People and Companies know better, apologies after the fact mean nothing.
She may consider herself and sons a monkey, but the rest of us black people don’t. Stay y’all ass in the U.K.
It sounds like she was paid off. She was paid to come off that way and pissed black people off with her “get over it” attitude in hopes of that it would take the spotlight of off H&M. The goal is to pissed many off to the point where they’ll say “F it, if she doesn’t care then I don’t care.” And before you Know it, H&M will be back in business.
Oh my gosh yes!! Thank you
And I say that with as much sarcasm as I possibly can!
This mother is thinking about one thing and one thing only, her son’s modeling career. She doesn’t want him black balled and unemployed because the public will remember him as the kid with the monkey hoodie. She doesn’t want other modeling agencies to reject him or overlook him.
She clearly is not thinking about the overall big picture, black race, black community, black movement, black lives matter, the only black life that matters to her right now is her son’s and if he will be able to get another modeling pay check. As blacks when we think small, we end up short changed in the end. I’m sure she saw the hoodie and gave her stamp of approval.
I just got so annoyed reading this whole article. Brit’s should not comment on the lives of Black Americans, nor concern themselves with how we react to things especially of this nature. In fact focus on Brexit, the Royals, and I dont know, Tea or something.
The author of this article is so dumb, didnt do any research.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/10/media/diddy-forbes-hip-hop-wealthiest-list/index.html
Diddy is still Hip Hops wealthiest earner. Unless CNN and Forbes are just reporting this for our pleasure. Go away.
In my experience, they’re actually very jealous of American blacks. That’s why on second thought, I’m not surprised by her response at all.
Actually it wouldn’t surprise me if h&m tossed her a few coins to say this. I don’t put anything past people who make money off of their kids.
LMAO!!!…
I just said this before seeing your comment!!
Say that.
It’s mimicry of degradation put forth in various media — still puzzling nonetheless.
I don’t need to start with me because there’s nothing wrong with me. Me, you, us isn’t the issue. It’s THEM. Racism and White supremacy is their pathology. It’s not up to me to change how they see me. Don’t you understand the pathology of racism? You need to read the Miseducation of the Negro and some other books in order for you to understand the nature of the best. You are placing the way some White people see Blacks on the backs of Blacks. It’s not my/our responsibility. They are pathological and have been since they came out the caves. Well, I and other disagree with you. What would you qualify calling a Black boy a monkey as? A nice friendly gesture? Again, I don’t think you understand what’s going on. I think you, like many Blacks, internalize their hatred of us. It’s not about you, me, or anyone else, but THEM.
If someone called your child ugly, are you going to tell your child, “You have to change the way that person sees you in order for him/her not to see you as ugly?”
Anyway, we’ll agree to disagree.
Preach!
Thank you! You’re really bringing it. That was very well said. You have much more patience than I had today. This thread has my tolerance real low for people talking nonsense and pointing fingers at black people rather than the real issue.
I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves
Kenyan living in Sweden? Go make Kenya Great Again!! lol
My daughters father is African so I know for a fact. So keep your stupid comments to yourself because I never state anything I haven’t seen or experienced.
Yeah you right. A lot of it is jealousy.
Oh well I’ve been to college and it doesn’t teach about real life experiences. I learned really how they feel from experience.
Lol this is why I’m glad I didn’t react to this mess. I knew the mammy would be cooning for coins and let you other folks know she give zero fuccs
H&M is having a 80% off sale btw
I knew the mother approved. h and m is a British firm. that child looks like an african brit. honestly most black people under the uk flag have no pride. they want to blend in with their overlords. a few of the islands have developed a culture but for the most part uk British people think they are better than African americans but less than white people. that’s why I don’t count them in. that’s why the entertainment industry choose them over us. they don’t have pride. I am in the entertainment field. I am not just making things up. they study African americans and then they come here because they cant get work anywhere else.
now the sweatshirt its self. I don’t have a problem with it. kids are monkeys. if you have a black child you can buy it for home. but I wouldn’t have let him model it. nope. it means something different in print. the meaning of a very delebrate “black” wearing a shirt like that is to get people talking. we are h & m and we are so important that we can have this boy wear this shirt.
I own 1 h & m item. a black hoody. I bought it overseas they were the easiest store and I was cold. other then that h & m isn’t worth the effort. catch a macys sale. their house brand is well thought out. also stop buying everyday clothes from fast fashion places anyway. cheap thin pants. get real.
ditto. the expression on his face says they did this deliberately. his mother was right there. she doesn’t care about it.
its not even real exposure cause his mother is setting him up to have a short career.
what does black americans have to do with this. that woman and her monkey son is British. see you couldn’t call my family member a monkey unless he was running around.
that’s what people aren’t getting they put him in that sweatshirt for a reason. if he had on shorts maybe it would be a little different but they dressed a monkey up.
I work in the industry. sometimes the businesses simply stop working with black people instead of stop being idiots.
this is my second post. just to make clear I think the mom and hm are bums.
Pretty much
maybe I’m biased but it still isn’t really worth it. whats the point of being in fashion if its so cheaply made. maybe a Saturday concert but not everyday wear.
why dont u look down on him? what makes his black ass better than u? is it because hes eats food with his fingers?
that person sounds just as crazy as the mom. Africans went to England because their land was plundered by the English.
what do you call someone going to your land and stealing your resources and throwing you in jail. slavery.
I saw a video recently about how Darfur was destabilized over oil production. Half of the product shipped to China and half to the US — meanwhile the indigenous people are being armed to kill each other to keep production flowing. Africa has sooooo many resources — if their governments were stabilized and managed these assets well you wouldn’t have all these people flooding into Europe with their hands out for welfare.
If you’re going to call others ignorant, you might want to first learn the difference between “evolution” and “revolution”.
Their merchandise was passable in the first two years and fell off markedly after that. Only briefly shopped there — online I like La Redoute.
Yadda, yadda — buy him the lion shirt and call it a day.
Black British folk especially foreigners act very subserviant to white ppl imho. It’s a culural thing I suppose.
Reading is fundamental, hun. I responded to a poster who said “sometimes parents need other adults to step in to show them the light.”
Most of the people here who are commenting on her parenting skills are black Americans who are in no position to tell anyone else how to raise their children. That woman’s son is probably at the top of his class, while adults on this site can’t even conjugate the verb “to be.”
Oh, I absolutely agree that the words are powerful and they shape your thoughts and they shape culture. The language of racism is designed to make black people feel like and be portrayed as victims, and then we will actually use it as an excuse.. Think about it: we say we want equality, but we blame racism as the reason there is no equality. “Because I’m black, I don’t have the same choices or opportunities” etc.
I know I’m black, and I know I have to be twice as good just to be seen as equal. It’s not fair, be me crying foul because of it is an excuse to me. I’d rather be twice as good and get where I want to go, than cry racism and admit the color of my skin defeated me. I fee better thinking of myself as someone who beat racism, shifted some paradigms…survived and THRIVED in spite of racism. But thst’s just me.
A lot of people are making comments about black British culture and it’s obvious they know nothing about it. This is one woman’s opinion. As a black British mother, I would never allow my child to model such an item or ever wear one. I remember when another shop had tops with monkeys on them. I made a comment to my friend about never buying one for any of my sons. As far as I can see, a lot of black British people are up in arms about this topic. We are not all subservient and yes, we do have our own culture.
I knew the mammy would be cooning for coins……..
You are spot on with your comment. Money ALWAYS wins even when human stupidity is a factor. Obviously, the mother is very ignorant and subservient as many have stated. If my son was modeling and the company or fashion house wanted him to wear that shirt, he would no longer be working for that company or modeling any of their clothes! Someone in that studio would have gotten backhanded knowing my quick temper! I would have gotten an assault charge. SMDH!
She’s getting momentary attention, though. Kids with pushy stage mother’s are a dime a dozen.
The mother of that little boy is an ignorant POS that shouldn’t breed. This is why children of this generation are so lost, selfish, and narcissistic, they have dumb parents. Racism will always exist, but this dumb ass lady is saying it is okay since money is involved. No, asshole, it is not! If that were my son, I would expect him to already know that it would be offensive and I would never allow him to display or wear something that is offensive to his culture or others. Most parents today have no morals or values and need to be sterilized! Sickening.
Yes, inadvertently made him look foolish and he doesn’t know why. Overall, a sh*tty thing to do for some pocket change. Not everyone is cut out to be a parent.
And furthermore, most men with little boys would not allow their sons to model, well most dudes I know. I have a little boy and if I were to put him in modeling or dance, I can guarantee you his grandmother and my uncles would not let that happen! My family is pretty strict about gender roles. I guess I was just brought up differently. Putting a little boy in modeling, the f*ck????
Seriously, one-day he’s going to he old enough to ask his mother why she didn’t protect him.
Yes! *snaps*
There’s a rumor that Elizabeth I destroyed the documented history of Africans to dehumanize and allow the slave trade to go forward. I believe this to be true — she was ruthless and beheaded her own cousin (Mary Queen of Scots).
Yeah, to me, that’s how the capitalistic ideology dominates the society. It encourages this kind of individualism, people are continuously working on themselves to fit in this world. If they got depressed because that s hit is killing them, a magic pill prescribed by the doctor will get them better. But, it’s really a system where oppressors continue to dominate the oppressed because they are willing participants. The whole concept of “surviving in spite of” is a product of the ideology.
There are many people (out there) of all backgrounds that don’t know who they are.
It’s getting worse with the migrant influx.
Well isn’t she dumb as hell!
I am so disappointed by the mother’s message. I was expecting parent’s reactions to this controversy. I thought they would say : “We didn’t know, we were not in the room, nobody told us.”
It always amazes me that most police don’t have guns there (UK). You have major criminal networks of international origins and Schengen borders that allow for free movement. Police and citizens can’t protect themselves — a recipe for disaster (in my mind).
They knew what the fuck they were doing. She can’t tell black Americans how to feel. When we know racist white supremacists call black ppl monkeys all the time. So she needs to stfu
Dear heart, surely you know by now that your juvenile namecalling means less that zero sh!ts to me. I understand your need to deflect from my sage commentary, but it won’t work.
You are all b!tching about the use of the insensitive “racist” term monkey, yet you never open your mouths when an even MORE racist term, N!GGER, is used all around you.
Are you so intellectually dishonest that you will LIE and claim you DON”T hear the word “n! gger” uttered nearly every time you pass a group of black males on the street (except those who are clearly business executives)? Will you further LIE and say the word is not in nearly every song by every black male rap artist, thereby encouraging whites to also use the word when they sing the lyrics?
I repeat my question, why are you “outraged” at the use of the word monkey, but not at tbe omnipresent use of the word n!gger?
Um no, it’s “nigga”, not “nigger”.
Um no, it’s “nigga”, not “nig*er”. And I only use the word “nigga” to refer to a POS dude when I need to use it, that’s how I personally use it. I would never use that word addressing my son nor use it around him. Other cultures use the word “nigga” as a term of endearment just like many blacks do. It depends on the context it is being used in, not saying it is okay, but it is a slang term. Now the word “nig*er” is used to be offensive toward a black person. I’ve heard white and Hispanic people call each other “nigga” on many occasions. So you should also question them as to why they say it. Black people are not the only ones who say “nigga” and white people are not the only ones who say “nig*er”.
I didn’t see it as racist. I must be blind or something, I thought it was a cute top.
And you’re right Sandra. Blacks from Africa and the Islands think a lot different than Blacks here, who are HYPERSENSITIVE about racism. You know, the word “Monkey” was said by blacks back in the day to describe their cute kids. I remember kids being called cute as a monkey, they were endearing words.
Sorry folks. That was the way it was.
I don’t think the mom is dumb as f**VK, I think she just wants Black Americans to stay out of her business.
The mom and kid were paid, that should be all that matters and mom is probably trying to get him in the modeling business.
@Never — so true.
Your “sage commentary”? haha
There you go…
More proof that you think way too highly of yourself. Have a good day.
What exactly is so awe- inspiring? Just answer the question, if you can. Why is it ok to embrace the word n!gger?
It is the word our ancestors heard when stuffed into the bowels of slave ships and when sold on tbe auction block along with cows and horses. And it was the last word many heard when swinging by their necks. THAT is the bloody history of the word n!gger. So what earthly reason do blacks now have for embracing this vile word as if it were a dear friend? Each time it is used, we dishonor the memory of our ancestors.
Well me and him are no longer together. I ended that. And I try not to look down on others. But I don’t respect the culture of the womanizing, lying, women are suppose to submit ways.
Ignore the elephant in the room and keep the train moving. Black Lives Matter, Colin Kaepernick and his muslim girlfriend are SHAMS. Too many people easily led and easily fed.
If you see yourself less than, then go ahead and allow them to treat you like that.
That’s the problem Noir, most of the dummies and slow people commenting allow themselves to be treated like sewer drainage. So of course they will not find most offensive things offensive because they live as human doormats everyday. I don’t care who the person is or what they have or where they come from, I do not tolerate being treated like rodent feces. I’ve experienced racism from strangers and even from those who I “thought” were my friends who are no longer in my life. I don’t know about anyone else, but I certainly do not allow anyone into my life with a hateful/racist heart. NOT HAPPENING!
“Common sense is not so common.”
~Voltaire
that’s our problem as black folks..we look down on eachother but not other cultures/ races of people.. wtf is that about?
“The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don’t have any.”
~Alice Walker
I’m not even talking about money or capitalism, and not sure I understand your drug reference. Money does not motivate me, but negativity demotivates me. I’m talking about being able to move forward in my life despite all that – what “they” say. Your attitude about yourself is not something you can co-op or make the responsibility of someone else.
And how would a whole bunch of negative anything result in something positive?
I didn’t say that at all, or if that is what you got from what I said, that’s not what I meant. How some white people feel about black people is totally their business, their misconceptions, their OPINIONS – and I could care less. But how they see me will NEVER effect how I see me.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2a81b963ac8d1f8b5ffc8f49ed63f543ebeb13addbe0ed8b397bb6d0d56b2549.gif
ANYTHING for a check…..
It’s it the theory of evolution that all people evolved from simians? And yes, I know about the history of how blacks have been called any animal that is dark colored. Names and labels only have power when er give them power. History should inform the present and the future, but how long do we keep re-living it and allowing it to make us bitter and angry, when there is no way we can change it. Do we just keep carrying the bitterness? Where has that gotten us as a race? In my opinion, we were better off during the Civil Rights era than we are now. They marched against oppression of white people, but they also said “we are bigger than their bigotry.” It was the positive message of that movement that made positive changes, not the focus on the negative. Those people took away anyone else’s power and right to define them.
The dumbest
OPEN BLATANT RACISM AND STRAIGHT DUMBASSNESS. SMH
I’m glad she’s not my mother. I hope she will take Diddy’s offer.
Hypersensitive about racism? You do realize that our black grandparents and parents were made to ride the back of the bus?
I apologize for misunderstanding you. Also, no one’s opinion of you should never effect how you see yourself. I totally agree with that. All I’m saying is that we are under an evil system that we’ve been under since we got here. I’m tired of fighting, but we must continue to so those devils know we mean business. I’m not saying we have to fight the same fight, but I’m glad people called H&M on this and got solutions.
Nicole, you ain’t never lied! The racist evil mindset is so inculcated in the minds of some of our people that they accept it! I will NOT. We cannot, should not, and will not be treated like rodent feces, and for those who don’t have issues with what H&M did, then they just need to sit down somewhere and let the rest of us fight this battle. Girl, I know that’s right. You cannot afford to allow poison in and around you!
I don’t look down on anyone. I’m not God and I can’t judge anyone.
No worries! Thank you for the respectful conversation and for sharing your views. I get what you’re saying, totally.
I have never seen a cute monkey… sorry..
So, she cant tell American blacks how to feel, but American blacks get to tell HER what to be angry about and how to raise her son. Why?
“Knowing British women like I do, Terry probably told him to keep his money and stop using her son for publicity.”
How sway? Didn’t H& M pay her to use her son for publicity?
…not anything for a check because article states she believes Brother Love is trying to USE her son by offering him dignified work. She will do anything for a check from the white folks because that’s validation and acceptance to her.
We are conscientious enough to know that all around the world there is deep hate, slavery (Africans and Liberians in Muslim countries), and abuse of people with African origins.
“Dignified work” modeling for Sean Jean? Who wears Sean Jean?
Black Americans are hypersensitive because most have no knowledge of world history and think our ancestors were the only people ever enslaved.They love to play the victim so they get “outraged” every time a white person says “boo.”
In point of fact, MANY races were enslaved, especially Asians. As recently as 2007 in Shanxi, China., thousands of Chinese including many children, were discovered working as slaves in illegal brickyards, and were tortured by the owners of the brickyards. IN 2007!!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_slave_scandal
Yet Asians come here and rise above their circumstances, becoming business owners in only a few years. Their children are invariably at the top of their classes. Why? Because they aren’t sitting around being “outraged” every 5 minutes.
Black Americans, conversely, remain generationally impoverished because they love to lean on that slavery/racism crutch. So long as they can blame the white man and racism, they don’t have to take responsibility for their own failures.
That’s exactly why she’s saying get over it. She would rather have H&M money than Sean Jean. Does anyone wear Sean Jean anymore?
“Heeeey MustBeTheMoney”
Dignified work?? This is the same man who … well, let me just say that the “work” he had 15 year old Usher Raymond doing was, allegedly, anything BUT dignified.
Nobody. But I guarantee Sean Combs wouldn’t put a toddler in a monkey sweatshirt.
Now, she might not wanna sign a contract with him ???
Yeah…and …, what does that have to do with black Americans having some inherent “right” to dictate to a total stranger which decisions she should and should not make for the welfare of her own child?
I personally think this is a non-issue. Little boys wear shirts with monkeys on them all the time. I used to call my son monkey boy when he was little…. So what. People do need to get over themselves. Quit playing into the “everything is racist” card cuz news flash… IT AIN’T. Now if that shirt said best N#@*r in the jungle….THEN get upset but not until then. Period.
Thank you!!!
This country has racism issues unfathomable to other countries…which most can’t understand… and the biggest problem is when a person is being blatantly dehumanzed…and they don’t see it… this women needs to take off those blinding shades so that she can see clearly for the sake of her child… thats fine if you want to be a token… but don’t publicly discredit your people when they are standing up for the rights and respect of YOUR son
I agree. Long story short, we need to stop inadvertently “claiming” these words such as Monkey, which is exactly what we do every time we get offended when a white person, or white owned company advertises anything with black people and monkeys or bananas.
Remember when Deray was “so woke” that he thought the Planet of the Apes movie poster was taking aim at him and the Black Lives Matter Movement?
Anyway, I will continue to shop at H&M because Guess What? Our Boycotts only last for bout 2 weeks anyway until we figure out the next thing to be mad at. (Shrugs Shoulders)
The issue here is that they (certain Africans) see the world completely different because their history is *not* the same as Black Americans. Some Africans have a completely different perspective of the world versus Black Americans because their experiences & lineage are vastly different. I define Black Americans as those who’s families have been here since the early 1900s & prior.
Although I agree with you that I wouldn’t allow my child to be referred to as monkey, we have to understand that this Kenyan lady does not have the same history with whites as we do. Whites didn’t run around Kenya calling Black people “monkey”. And colonialism damn sure didn’t last as long as transatlantic slave trade.
I don’t believe this Bristish Kenyan lady to be complacent. We have to understand that this Kenyan lady does not have the same history with whites as Black Americans do. Whites didn’t run around Kenya calling Black people “monkey”. And colonialism damn sure didn’t last as long as the transatlantic slave trade. She sees no issue bc she has no such history with whites.
This is true. My grandmother said when she got to Germany and attended some kind of banquet shortly after arriving, the other guests asked her about her tail. She says by what she can tell, the Germans were sincere and really believed the stories told to them.
I’ve been scrolling through the comments til this point.
Re: common sense. I have come to the conclusion that it is absolutely NOT my job to explain what should already be understood – or at the very least pretty clear once explained. I had someone close to me tell me they don’t need to read or even know our history. I had someone else repeatedly tell me, “I don’t do the white/black thing”….like, just because she think like that, white folks gon give her blk azz a waiver.
To have to explain to ANY black person why it’s not okay to associate yourself in ANY way with the terms monkey, ape, gorilla – means they’re already too far gone. Save your ire and comments for another day.
SMH.
Screw dumbass “mum”, H&M’s team had a bigger agenda with this mess; she’s too stupid to even see it.
D**n. I’m SO SORRY you were put in that position with your kids to witness. I honestly think there’s no right way to handle it. Passive or aggressive reaction can be both viewed as wrong. You did what you felt needed to be done. Can’t nobody fault you for that. That was some really FOUL sh it.
Like this post said….. y’all crying about H&M being racist but you ya asses in some of those racist ass Korean beauty supply stores for weaves and lace fronts lol… do you know how hard it is for a black person to open up a beauty supply store? How hard IT is to get the hair??
Preach….I sell hair and it’s a challenge to get my “friends” to purchase from me and my hair is of high quality. Our race is quick to ostracize each other but support other races.
Like this post said….. y’all crying about H&M being racist but you ya asses in some of those racist ass Korean sneaker stores for tennis shoes lol… do you know how hard it is for a black person to open up a sneaker store? How hard IT is to get the sneaker?
UNLOYAL BISH
African pimp mama.
Exactly!
Nope
The UK is not a very good example; the police certainly have guns in France and maybe even in Germany (though someone may correct me, I am not sure about Germany). I am actually conflicted about the guns; I see no problems with them generally, BUT I do believe that the USA has too many guns, especially in the wrong hands. On the other side, I’m always tickled how (white) Europeans I encountered start screaming about the guns in the USA and how they don’t want to visit because they are afraid that they will get shot. In reality, they can get shot at home, lol, plenty of underground guns in Europe. Yes, I agree that the USA has a gun problem, but these people are victims of over-exposure to news.
If you are referring to the USA as in “this country”, where I live (not USA), it is only unfathomable to the people here because they have their own blinders on about what racism is. They think that only blatant racism is practiced in the USA. ha ha ha ha.
Isn’t she originally from an African country? She doesn’t care because the money is the most important thing to her – she is myopic and incapable of critical thinking. Her son is featured in ads and she gets $$$… she is happy. She just can’t understand the ramifications of her myopic decision.
There is a reason why blacks are the most disrespected “race”…
Exactly! There is always a black simpleton to fulfill their agenda.
Black Americans fighting for civil rights is the reason why so many non-whites are in the USA right now. Once the Civil Rights Act was passed, the immigration quota of ZERO INDIVIDUALS coming from all countries in Africa and Asia was released. Black Americans fought for the rights of others to immigrate to the USA, only to be looked down at upon arrival. Interesting.
Interesting… other ethnic groups – especially “whites” – call blacks “monkeys” and “apes”. Remember Serena Williams? Michelle Obama?
Your comments are on point. I had time today/yesterday, lol.
It saddens me how even black folks will bring up that tired of “black on black crime” trope, as if black people are the only ones in the world committing crimes. Most crimes are those of opportunity or passion. In the USA, when the crime is specifically related to RACE, the perp is almost always NOT black, but the victims are FREQUENTLY black.
Besides, people keep talking about how awful black people are. I’ve met so many educated, beautiful, industrious black people, this does not compute to me. There are horrible people in ever group, but when they are black, it is a stain on all of us. Why? After all black Americans have gone through, we only have a 25% poverty rate; black women now hold the most degrees of any group, countless numbers of graduates, doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. After being treated the way they were in the USA, any other group would have burned the country down by now, but black people continue to strive.
Maybe they didn’t run around Kenya calling black people monkeys, specially, but they did much worse. They (white British and Germans) took by force the Kenyan’s land. Carved it up without their say. Stripped the indigenous Kenyans of their rights and forced them into educational facilities vastly unequal to the whites and Asians that lived there. And the racism…yikes! That’s just what I’ve read and I’m not Kenyan.
Sound familiar? I’m black American and it sounds very familiar to me.
Let’s not over think this. The woman is either very ignorant of her own history, or she knows it well and sees only €€€€€€€$$$$$$
You’re trying to force your Black American-ness & consciousness on other ethnic groups who do not share your viewpoint. The mother’s sentiments are similar to most other Africans. And colonialism didn’t cut as deep mentally as chattel slavery did. Colonialism was about 100 years, tops. Chattel slavery mixed with Jim Crow lasted 400 years. It’s not the same & they didn’t have it “worse”. You want to believe that Africans had it worse when many of them grew up richer & with more education than the average white American.
You can attempt to argue these facts but they are still facts.
This woman is of Kenyan descent and lives in Sweden, not Great Britain.
She wasn’t telling Black Americans how to feel. She was telling people that she doesn’t care & doesn’t see an issue with it. My personal take is after knowing this, Black Americans should move on to a cause that actually affects them. Her son will be fine, trust & believe he’s getting some of the best education that Britain has to offer but our kids here in the U.S. won’t be so fine.
I know right lol Black Americans need to move on from this cause. There are plenty of Black American mothers & children who have real problems that need this kind of social media awareness & support.
Her son won’t face the kind of racism you think he will in Britain. He will be just fine.
Black Americans see this as an insult but she doesn’t bc she’s not Black American. The lady is Kenyan. Her people did not go through chattel slavery.
Black Americans have a right to be offended & Black Africans have a right not to share the same sentiments nor care.
She doesn’t have the same history with the term “monkey” as Black Americans do. It’s not about a check. She has no reason to be offended. They weren’t called monkeys in Kenya.
H&M didn’t pay her to say this. She said it on her own free will. She saw the photos long before we did. She didn’t have an issue bc she doesn’t share the same history as Black Americans.
I agree. People foaming at the mouth & the mother could care less. I am not wasting my time caring nor fighting for a cause that she doesn’t see a problem with.
LMAO Yet no ones protesting Vh1…
Black Africans are far from jealous of Black Americans. What they will do is use up all the opportunities that Black Americans fought for & won in the U.S.
Sorry, not sorry. I don’t live in the USA and in the European country where I live NON- AMERICAN black people tell me about their struggles without me opening my mouth once. They tell me about how white Europeans dismiss their struggles because as one put it “slavery didn’t occur on French or British Metropolitan Territory”. lol. Yet, they fight for equality and fight against white supremacy every day. Many of them either originate from or have parents who originate from an African Nation.
How can I believe that Africans have it worse? I actually don’t remember typing that. In one of the American cities where I grew up, there were many Africans from all over the continent, and they were highly educated and wealthy, much more than myself and my family. So I don’t need to have nasty stereotypes about Africans removed from my head.
Your “facts” are no more fact then mine are
H&M didn’t pay her off. She said that for free. She doesn’t share the same history with Black Americans so she doesn’t feel the same way about the term “monkey”.
All I’m saying is that this idea of surviving despite of came from the capitalistic ideology. And black people who are saying “Yeah, I will go on despite of the racism and bla,bla,bla”, had integrated the mentality that a capitalistic society wants them to have. So if you fail, you will blame on yourself, you got discouraged, you’ll get depressed, it’s all because of you. Nobody is whining or crying in this discussion, we are just talking about the hypocrisy of companies who target black people among others and despite them in the same time.
I think she would be stupid to not be in the room with her child while he’s doing this kind of job. That would mean she left her child to be dressed and undressed by a group of model agency employees.
She isn’t black British, she is of Kenyan descent living in Sweden.
What are you talking about? Her entire continent was destroyed by Europeans. You don’t have to be black or American to understand this issue. This lady is playing dumb for the money.
Better question is, what are *you* talking about? What Africans do you know? Have you ever lived or visited any African countries? Colonialism was not the same as chattel slavery in U.S. Most Africans who emigrate to Europe or U.S. come from rich families who are well educated. Again, she doesn’t care & most likely doesn’t *need* the money.
This “mum” has CLEARLY missed the point of the uproar!!! Who brainwashed you lady?!? Smdh
Yes, and in America that reason is because blacks are the only race who disrespect THEMSELVES on a daily basis. They walk through the streets calling each other N!GGER, then are shocked that others view them as less than human. Find one asian who publicly refers to himself as a “g@@k”. You never will.
If you want to be respected, start referring to yourselves as MEN rather than n!ggers, and stop riding through your own neighborhoods shooting wildly as if you are taking target practice at your own people. Allow black children to attend a bar-d-q in summer without gunfire breaking out.. THOSE are the LIFE and DEATH issues that show SELF-LOATHING, nit a word on a sweatshirt.
i could care less about this lil boy and his monkey shirt but i have seen like 20 facebook posts about him. these non-americans are not traumatized by white folks labels of us.
Well, they aren’t going to get away with overtly racist stuff because y’all are okay with it. Nope! You won’t direspect black people to sell your sh*t!
Rachel is a white woman here to tell black people how to act. Goodbye, Rachel!
Stores in black neighborhoods owned by Asians or Arabs and NEITHER group hires any black neighborhood youth, yet blacks flock to give them their money.
Years ago when I moved to Brooklyn before gentrification, I was shocked to see blacks patronizing Arab owned stores that wouldn’t even let them inside – they actually paid through a bullet proof window. THAT is the height of disrespect, yet blacks stand in the cold to hand over their money. When you see yourself as less than human — as n!ggers rather than sel-respecting black MEN — you will hand over your money to people who view you in the same manner.
Like I said, that’s been my experience. Maybe all of the ones we worked around and hung around were having bad weeks when I was over there. Cause at the end of the trips the general consensus was “Bitter. They’re bitter.”
Really? A letter? Do better.
Why would racism be “unfathomable” to people in other countries. At one point in history, Britian owned slaves and land across the globe. Their reach was so extensive that their credo was “The Sun Never Sets on the British Empire” Why do American blacks think they were the only ones to ever experience slavery and racism?
I could go on, but what would be the purpose? If you don’t understand at this point….. You got it.
LOL YEA OK
OMG, your comment gave me LIFE! You are SO right about that. My mom used to say, “Don’t cast your pearls before swine.” Thank you for this Coffee!
Oh, let me say this. Sometimes we can use the art of persuasion to help people understand our point of view. It’s worked with me many times before where someone wrote something that had me thinking, and they convinced me of a different point of view. On the other hand, sometimes, like you so eloquently put, it’s not worth the fight.
She should be renamed BALL for using her son for profit. Stupid heffa
EXACTLY STRAIGHT LIKE THAT!!
ALL THE TIME!!
Lol. Okay…
Your second paragraph is making a lot of assumptions. No black person I associate (friends or family) use any form of the N-word. You’re generalizing again.
WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET NO MATTER HOW YOU WANT TO SUGARCOAT IT!!!!! NOTHING IN THIS WORLD SHOULD HINDER WHAT WAS DONE AND WHAT IS STILL BEING DONE TO US A RACE. WAKE UP PEOPLE
” Black Americans, conversely, remain generationally impoverished because they love to lean on that slavery/racism crutch. ” – You know nothing. Google white privilege. Doesn’t occur to you that having black skin is an automatic target, a hinderance. From a glance by a non black person, an array of stereotypes, preconceptions, and ideas flourish into their minds; and this all from a glance. No conversations, just having dark skin. Blacks have more THAN SURPASSED what has been ‘uninvitedly’ hailed upon us. You are ignorant to reality.
You can say that again!
Wow,I bet she got paid 1 million dollars from H&M to make this statement. Sold her soul for money over her child. SMH
Sandrarose.com, a british women would allow her son to be used as a publicity stunt for H&M but would turn down a million dollar contract with Sean John because she would want him to be used for publicity for a black company?. I know a few black women from London and none of them are that stupid or self hating. Why would you portray your countrywomen in such a poor light?
crying wolf or monkey you lo-key sold your son
Well that’s not what Sandra said. She said she’s British.
That is true. Lol, I think I’m just shell shocked from the WILLING ignorance I’ve come across. I don’t have all of the answers nor do I know everything – precisely the reason I’m willing to LISTEN and to consider facts/truth when it’s presented to me. Truth flies in the face of people’s comfort and ego. But I’ll tell you. I honestly believe that seeking and facing the truth about yourself determines how well one can accept other very hard, and sometimes painful, truths. Learning the truth about yourself is heartbreaking and no other truth will be able to rattle you after that!!
They still got slaves in Africa and the middle east. Yup, in 2018.
They got no idea just how racist people are in the rest of the world, and Europe is actually the LEAST in comparison.
Try going to South America, or Africa, the Middle East or Asia. Then ya’ll will experience true racism.
There’s slavery in Africa today! You realize that, nah?
Well Sandra is wrong.
ALL OF THIS in a nutshell!!!!
It wouldn’t be the first time. I am not as perfect as others in this thread. ?
I absolutely have to comment on this statement! I completely agree that other races of people have been victims historically of slavery in their own respective countries. HOWEVER, in the United States of America, Black people have had to endure physical, psychological, emotional, financial, and GENERATIONAL slavery, and racism. Our ancestors were brought TO this country for the sole purpose to serve white people PERIOD! We did not come here to escape slavery we were BROUGHT here for that purpose! So to compare what Asians did to better themselves in the U.S. is not fair because, this country was not & is not a place of refudge, new beginnings, etc for black people as it was for so many other races that came here to better themselves. This land has the blood, sweat, and tears of our ancestors. The flag, the anthem, the constitution, were all things created without the consideration or even inclusion of US a people so please do NOT compare what we have endured, and what we continue to endure in THIS country to the accomplishments of those who came here for a better life! We were brought her to serve & once that was done we were set up to FAIL! PERIOD! As a people we always have to work HARDER, & be SMARTER! Yes we have overcome ENORMOUS obstacles in this country as a people but please believe the accomplishments we’ve made were done IN SPITE of the course set before us!
Ive been to college as well and what they dont teach real life experiences….so you have to live them. I deal with people from different Cultures and some think that way and adjust and some dont.
In the clothing Industry starting at the top would be nice!!!! In the Political arena look VERRRYYYYY closely at the target on our back, some people look at that as a small issue but I see it as the biggest issue going on right now. Just pay attention to how everytime something goes on with this Administration…. Black people come up
Africa still has slaves in 2018! Africans enslave other Africans and we was sold to Europeans by other Africans. That’s why she don’t care. The concept of slavery is very different there.
Are you serious? Have you even BEEN to other parts of the world?
Try Asia or the Middle East or South America! Try Africa!
It wasn’t supposed to be dig at you. Maybe I should have phrased it differently.
I’ve been and I generally agree. Various countries in Asia are particular nasty against black people. I wouldn’t call Europe the least in comparison simply because eastern Europe is straight up f%*$ed when it comes to racism against black people. Western Europe IS better compared to eastern Europe, IMO. I’ve not yet been to S.America and only one country in Africa, but I know that anti-blackness is global.
i don’t disagree
Exactly!
That check that H&M cut her…..
Lol. This was funny ?
Your experience is your experience and it is correct!!!
Did you read what I wrote? Are you illiterate? Ask that question again to yourself after you read my post.
For a manner of fact we are! You’re racist.
Are u blind… or uneducated… the USA is a melting pot full of ppl from all other countries…the places u described have a very small population of ppl from other countries… this is facts
There is a difference between Rasim and Colorism
Racism has different characteristics than Colorism
Denial. You denying the fact that MANY of these other countries (including the home continent) engage in ongoing slavery. They never stopped. Take your complaints to that part of the world and watch what the reaction will be. You are the blind one. The willfully blind one.
This ain’t something to get all crazy about. Sorry.
I ain’t the problem here.
You are because you mak’m problems where there ain’t none. Go travels some and you’ll know what I mean. #ignorant
Pahahahaha gurl Sandra you are really something else ?????
I never said there wasnt slavery and or racism in other countries… I used the word unfathomable to imply a difference in they way it is perceived… just so you know I’m speaking first hand… and far from crazy
Complaining about our life in the U.S. is ridiculous when you hold it up to the lives of people living around the world. Especially in Africa! Why we getting so crazy over a sweatshirt with the word “monkey” over it? I agree with the mother here. We need to quit screaming racist every time we don’t care for something. That word needs to mean something.
money is the root of all evil…..
A lot of assumptions. Also f you spelling grammer cop.
Go stand in a H&M line in NYC…and relay your views… Im done
They live in Sweden.
Slaves already existed in Africa and the Muslim world.
You mean that they began using African slaves, not that they created slavery, ’cause that ain’t true. And let us not forget that many of our ancestors were sold to Europeans by other Africans.
Their point is they wanna be mad. They wanna be angry. And it’s ridiculous because there really are things happening out there which is worth our time and outrage. Stuff that really IS racist.
And yet, here we are. Getting all angry about something as stupid as this and causing everyone else to roll their eyes at us, ’cause we angry about something that just ain’t worth this level of anger. Again.
There was slavery in blibical times. The context should be clear that we’re talking about slavery in America, Europe and their colonies.
But why aren’t we as equally outraged about the modern day slavery in Africa or Asia or the Middle East? ‘Cause it isn’t about us? Yes, we were enslaved by Europeans, but Europeans weren’t the only players in the slave game, by far. This is why folks roll their eyes at us because we always screaming like we were the only people ever mistreated. The history of the world is sick, but why we getting angry at every little thing? Something as stupid as a sweatshirt on a kid of Nigerian origin living and modeling it in Sweden? Okay, it was not well thought out and H&M apologized for it publicly. The mother has expressed that she ain’t bothered. That’s her choice and business. We need to move on and focus on the REAL issues facing us in our actual communities. Not this noise. Just dumb.
My mind is capable of thinking of many things. ???
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