Mollie Tibbetts Symone Sanders

CNN commentator Symone Sanders sparked a heated debate on Twitter.com when she blamed the murder of Mollie Tibbetts on "toxic masculinity" instead of an illegal alien.

Sanders, who was a spokeswoman for Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign, insists that the bigger issue is male "toxic masculinity" that rears its ugly head when women reject them.

"Mollie Tibbetts was murdered b/c she told a man to leave her alone while she was jogging," Sanders tweeted on Thursday. “Her murderer happens to be undocumented. This isn’t about border security. This is about toxic masculinity. Mollie Tibbetts lost her life b/c a man couldn’t take her saying no. Full stop."

She continued:

"Her murderer actually might not even be undocumented. Regardless it is problematic for people to characterize an entire community based off the actions of one person. The majority of mass shootings in America are carried out by white men. So are we going to round them all up?... That logic is asinine, archaic and flawed. I’d love if we could have a real conversation about how women’s lives are literally in danger because some men do not know how to check their egos. How many more women have to die before we can address this?... Lest we continue to defile the life of #MollieTibbets with racist garbage some folks think is politically expedient that does nothing to address the root cause of the issue. Just stop."

Mollie Tibbetts Christhian Bahena-Rivera

Tibbetts is a 20-year-old college student who went missing while jogging in the small rural city of Brooklyn, Iowa on July 18.

This week, law enforcement in Iowa identified her killer as Christhian Bahena-Rivera, a 24-year-old illegal alien from one of the most violent towns in Mexico.

Bahena-Rivera has been living in America illegally for four to seven years.

He used a stolen ID to apply for a job at dairy farm in Brooklyn, Iowa. His employer admits he did not use the government's  E-Verify system to check if Bahena-Rivera was an illegal alien.

Bahena-Rivera said he spotted Tibbetts jogging on the morning of July 18. He pursued her -- first in his car and then on foot. He said she pulled out her cell phone and threatened to call police if he didn't leave her alone.

Bahena-Rivera claims he blacked out and doesn't remember stabbing Tibbetts multiple times or stuffing her body in the trunk of his car.

He led police to Tibbetts' decomposed body in a cornfield near his job. He covered her body with cornstalks to conceal her death.

  • Oh Tommie

    Yes, please round up all the white men and send them to another planet. Thanks.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Y’all take it easy on symone in here. ??

  • Carrington

    He's psycho. He killed a woman who rejected him. This has nothing to do with his citizenship. Who do we blame when Americans kill women? Let's stop looking at ethnicity to find a justification for silly $hit.

  • dontgetblocked

    He's crazy and he's an illegal alien. Both of these things played a factor in the murder. Let's face it. If he weren't here, Mollie would still be alive.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Why is no one discussing why the white dude killed his two daughters and his pregnant wife?

  • Calikush

    Amen, and Thank you!!!!! Why is this hard for people to grasp!!!!!

  • Phillybruh

    Well the real reason he killed her was because he couldn't cope with her rejecting him, so she does have a point.

  • Phillybruh

    I mean unfortunately that happens everyday.

  • LP

    She makes a damn good point! Men don't want to hear this and white folks don't want to hear this either. Something about this story just doesn't sit well with me. They're trying to push the illegal immigrant agenda so this poor bastard takes a fall.

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Black women are the quickest to stand up for another race that hates them

  • AmericanDream

    Some white girl is dead and the world needs to stop? Not saying the murder was ok but geez ! Why is this news ?

  • Phillybruh

    I don't know if she was standing up for anything, except pointing out the obvious.

  • Phillybruh

    Toxic masculinity is why the black boys are shooting up the block.

  • LP

    Big picture! She's not teaming up with Mexicans she's just trying to shift the agenda white folks are trying to push.

  • dru and neil

    She’s absolutely right. This story should be about male fragility and violence towards women. Him being an undocumented immigrant should be secondary, but I know that’s not the climate we are living in today. This will be alllllll about him being an illegal instead of being a violent egotistical male who killed a woman for refusing him.
    Will there be a post on the black man who went apesh*t when the white girl refused to give him her number, and he then trashed her car, and beat her up?

  • dru and neil

    We have no idea if Mollie would still be living if he were not here. She could have been killed by some other psycho man with a bruised ego.

  • Phillybruh

    That was a black girl in that story, wasn't it.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    But let's break down the facts.

    This entire anti-immigration push from Trump is about reducing the number of brown and blacks in America since whites aren't even reproducing in numbers which will keep them at replacement rates.

    So this white dude just decreased the white population by three ( four if you're a fetus lover) and five if you count him and since he will be behind bars for the rest of his life he won't be able to reproduce again.

    But of course they want to talk about someone of color killing the good white girl while using some of the same language that used to be reserved for blacks.

  • Phillybruh

    But since he's been caught and charged, what's really left to discuss in that case?

  • dru and neil

    Just read about two young black teens murdering another black teen on his way to Penn State on scholarship this week. It was absolutely heartbreaking. The young man was supposed to leave for college the next day, bags packed and everything.

  • Phillybruh

    That's just a fraction of the violence going on here in Philly, I keep my kids where they are for a reason. My brother sold his house that was paid for after my nephew passed so my niece wouldn't have to worry around these lunatics.

  • dru and neil

    I saw her giving an interview and she was white. I didn’t really care what race she was in this case, because that hood booger went BALLISTIC on a woman for refusing his advances and I think many of us women have been fearful of turning down an aggressive man for that very reason, don’t know how these fools will react.

  • none yubiz

    The Confederate General strikes again.....muhahahahahaha

  • nick c

    Like the Time Machine movie come on you sound silly.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Or he's a psychopath.

  • dru and neil

    Lord that is so sad! I never been to philly but I’ve heard about the violence. I suppose that story is making news because the young man killed was so unbelievably filled with promise and was so close to getting away from everything.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    "the bigger issue is male “toxic masculinity” that rears its ugly head when women reject them."
    ----------------------------------------------------
    she didn't say illegals were not a problem; she stated what the "bigger" issue is, in her opinion.... mutually exclusive?????

    are there not predatory non-citizens AND citizens? when you got 'the grabber' himself sitting in the oval office, throwing his support behind the likes of Roy Moore (pedo) and Rob Porter (wife beater), let's not act like some of these "all American" men aren't just as out of control and misogynistic as those of other cultures who openly regard women/girls as little more than handmaids, property, and worse.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    This was about a man being upset that a woman did not want him and instead of him walking or driving away he decides that his glass ego couldn't take rejection...this is not about undocumented immigrants but the politicos would love it to be...they even put the victims picture up this week to get sympathy...her own family said that they do not want their daughter's death to be a way to push an agenda against immigrants smh....

  • dru and neil

    I hated that he was an illegal because I knew the far right would be foaming at the mouth, fear mongering gullible folks who don’t want to see that she could have been killed by an American just as easily.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Yea and an American citizen killed his whole damn family ?????

  • Carrington

    I know. It's like when you pray that a crime wasn't committed by a black person, now we're hoping it's not an illegal.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    they were the picture perfect American family... we will FIND a justification, dammit! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68bc52b2a4f54f3dc0d4dea29ec0c12c203c19b65d4d18beb2fbbd13d0be6a55.gif

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Exactly LOL!

  • nick c

    Isnt she doing the same thing blaming a whole sex just because of one man's actions? Typical deflection tactics over emotional topics as always.

  • What???

    Toxic masculinity is the chickens coming home to roost for females. They've created Frankensteins because they choose to spread their legs and have babies with thugs. Why are they complaining, aren't they STRONG and INDEPENDENT?? Sounds like TOXIC FEMININITY is the root of the problem.

  • Phillybruh

    I mean they shooting peoples kids for nothing in the city, that boy caught them trying to rob his home. Everyday somebodies 15-21 yr old is being shot and killed because some little boy equates violence with masculinity and throw in the fact that they can't fight.

  • 100milesperhour

    I said from jump he's a patsy. Whoever did it (and they know who), is yt. This guy is just too easy.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    one reason its news is because T-rump has chosen to politicize her death, even though her family has expressed their desire to NOT have that happen. same as he exploited the navy seal's widow during his state of the union address... his back is against the wall, so expect more of the same (and worse).

  • Pamela

    Is Symone a lesbian? A very dear childhood friend desperately wants to know.

  • Coy little wink

    I agree with her...there is a bigger issue we have yet to deal with. Didn't that Florida shooter target girls who had rejected him?

    Yet still this story is not sitting right to me...just all of a sudden its resolved so neatly? Why all the surveillance footage in the middle of nowhere where nothing ever happens...

    Surely more crimes should be solved this way in bigger cities, no? I kinda dont buy it...

  • BingBangBoom

    *Rolls eyes....
    I see that "blacked out" statement is universal with all races.. He admitted to seeing her prior days before.... As far as the employer mostly all farm workers are undocumented because they are the only ones willing to do the hard labor for low pay. Also I heard he told authorities where her body was because he thought he could claim the 400K reward money.

  • Kanyade

    how do you NOT remember stowing a dead body in your trunk. -_-

    throw him under the jail: not because he's an illegal, but because "the crazy" is strong with him and he committed a horrid act of violence that resulted in the loss of a life.

  • Dainese

    I agree 1000%. I was just telling a friend of mine how Male egos are some of the most fragile things on planet earth.

  • Coy little wink

    She's not blaming all men...just saying its a bigger problem than the undocumented persons

  • Quitedeliteful

    He thought he could claim the reward money?!?!? So... on top of being a coldhearted murderer, he's a dumb-azz...

  • the guest

    Does one negate the other?

    She was murdered by the toxic masculinity of an illegal immigrant from Mexico. That’s two issues to address, not one or the other , or one over the other.

    Black folks gain nothing defending illegal immigration.

    Study the history and legacy of black people who came to the US through LEGAL immigration through Ellis Island in the early 1900s.

    Not all black people came to the US during slavery or post-civil rights,

  • iWasteTime

    Unfortunately, this truth is not the narrative some want to hear.
    Toxic masculinity happens across all racial, ethnic, and economic barriers.
    His status will trump the fact that he was told No, by a woman, and his ego couldn't handle it

  • Quitedeliteful

    Right!!!! Yet his nationality nor his race are considered as a factor for not only killing his family but getting on television and begging for their safe return...

  • the guest

    Exactly.

  • Itzgoingdown2

    Black liberals love defending white liberals, non blacks and any and everything liberal even if it’s not in the best interest of blacks. Toxic masculinity is just a word she’s regurgitating after she heard white feminists using it.

  • Quitedeliteful

    she blamed the murder of Mollie Tibbetts on “toxic masculinity” instead of an illegal alien.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    His legal status to reside in this country is a separate issue. Being illegal did not make him a murderer. Being a cunning, barbaric, sadistic excuse of a man is what got this girl killed.

  • Kanyade

    "he thought he could claim the 400K reward"
    -------------
    that's just plain dumb. and also further shows how "the crazy" within him.

  • Mo Mobetta

    The fux it’s not even a real thing

  • Mo Mobetta

    What do you call what teachers who rape their male students.. Toxic Feminity

  • Mo Mobetta

    Amen

  • Phillybruh

    She's called a pedophile and a rapist.

  • Coy little wink

    Why not? This guy spit in my girls face when she rebuffed him in a nightclub. What do you call that?

  • Quitedeliteful

    Being pursued by an aggressive, dangerous man is no joke. Some sleezy drug dealer was always trying to talk to me and I went to great lengths to avoid him until he got arrested and sent to prison. I hear he done found gawd now and is a holy roller! LOLLOLLOL!!!!

  • dru and neil

    Little boy is right! Both the perpetrators looked like they were in middle school. One still had acne all over his face the other just looked like a little kid. It was a shame!

  • the guest

    And Black Legal Immigrants in the early 1900s who came through Ellis Island came to the US more educated, articulate, and skilled than European immigrants coming through Ellis Island. But Black Legal Immigrants history is erased from the Ellis Island history books and movies while thousands of books and movies are made glorifying European immigrants at Ellis Island. And black folks are concerned about mexicans who don't give a single darn about black peoples.

  • dru and neil

    How is that silly? We have no idea what may or may not have happened to this woman if that man were never here. There’s literally no way to know! How is that “silly?”

  • Phillybruh

    A friend of mine taught one them last year.

  • Quitedeliteful

    It's not about the girl. I think folks are sick of the news media telling us what to be outraged about. Pushing a political agenda based on this murder is opportunistic and offends our sensibilities. Generally speaking, Black Women are not caping for Becky...

  • Solstice

    ?…? Idk much about her. I do think she has strong features but maybe those are amplified by her tapered cut. She’s intelligent from what I have observed but I’m guilty chile ?????. I was wondering the same tbh. ? ?? forgive me and thank you for asking sis! ?

  • LeeSeeCee

    I do not see where she lied.. This young woman's family has asked that her death NOT be politicized, and yet, immigration proponents are continually disrespecting their wishes. This murder is not about illegal immigration. This is about a man who refused to take NO as answer, so yeah, his ego was butt hurt. If you consider everything her family and friends have said about the character of this young woman, I will lay odds that she would have been exceedingly polite rejecting his advances with a sweet smile on her face. Dude is just an evil person that happens to also be illegal.

  • Quitedeliteful

    True... If he weren't there Mollie would still be alive but if he were here legally Mollie would still be dead because he's a psychotic bastard...

  • Solstice

    ? This young lady was minding her business jogging. Are you speaking generally? Real question with all due respect. Because I don’t think this woman was trying “to spread her legs and have babies with thugs” ?

  • Itzgoingdown

    Black liberals love defending white liberals, non blacks and any and everything liberal even if it’s not in the best interest of blacks. Toxic masculinity is just a new word she learned from white feminists that she’s now regurgitating.

  • Karen Brady

    Correction. Poor Mollie could have told that man "HELL YES!" and he probably still would have killed her. He had no good intent for that child.

  • Miss Thang

    Some men have this thing where they start insulting you right after you ignore or turn them down. It's disgusting. I remember being 15 and a man hitting on me LOUDLY and when I didn't respond he was like, "Do you think you're too good to speak to me? You're just a fat bitch anyway." I was horrified. WTF is wrong with people?

  • Karen Brady

    Dude is just an evil person that happens to also be illegal.

  • Karen Brady

    All this.

  • Coy little wink

    This has happened to me as well. Its scary...

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    No she is caping for that Hispanics and the rest of the illegals that hate blacks with a passion, but we get up and march for them, when have Hispanics ever spoke out about our struggles

  • Ronnie Hill

    SS=Tranny a MAN

  • Miss Thang

    I'm trying to understand where in this story did this girl spread her legs for the violent thug that brutally murdered her?

  • FukkFolks2018

    Black folks gain nothing defending illegal immigration.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Its why I dont care about some of the current hot topic immigration issues. I simply dont. And dont feel bad about it.

  • Karen Brady

    Pamela please intoduce us to this dear childhood friend. LOL.

  • ???TheRider???

    I thought it was just me! Ever since she went missing we’ve been bombarded with stories every damn day! Is she the first white girl ever to go missing? Hardly no press given to the poor girl who was killed at the train station in Oakland!
    #niasayhername

  • FukkFolks2018

    I have had this happen to me recently. In the past too. Its beyond me. Not everyone wants you sir. I speak or head nod and K.I.M. But if you dont stop and talk to some of them, if they are tryna holla it becomes very nasty and vile and downright scary pretty quickly.

    Yall stay safe as you can out there. And teach your daughter, niece, etc how to stay safe as well.

  • Karen Brady

    Um. plain and simple.

  • FukkFolks2018

    So you been waiting to say that on any given topic I guess bc this doesnt have ANYTHING to do with this story

  • morenYAHdelsur

    YESSS! Exactly! Now if they wanna get into some gangsta chit, we CAN bring up race, privilege, etc. but that doesn’t matter does it? LOL no!

  • Quitedeliteful

    If Blacks, Hispanics and other people of color would come together as one we would be an unstoppable force...

  • Waya Hedia

    What a dumbshit.

  • KcoolMuziq

    But it doesn't hurt if a man finds U attractive to say thanks but no thanks and keep it moving.Not just to not acknowledge someone whatsoever.That's rude. Some of U women get mad if no man pays U any attention at all.

  • Yui

    Yup, when I was going back and forth home as a preteen/teenager my mom always said, “not to engage” and I didn’t. Buuut these guys can be aggressive, I was called every name under the sun coz I didn’t want to talk to them.

    One time this man drove all on the sidewalk trying to talk to me. At that time in Cleveland Amanda Berry and Gina Dejesus (plus some other girls were disappearing or murdered) so imagine, how scary that was?

    He was like, “why you look so scared?” And I was thinking coz you drove on the sidewalk, MF. ?

  • FukkFolks2018

    No you can say hi. How are you...and K.I.M. I am not saying thanks to cat calling. And if a respectful compliment is paid I have no issue to say thanks so much and K.I.M. But As a male I see you have NO idea how dangerous this behavior is.

  • Yui

    Yea, but half of time it’s aggressive. One thing if they were being polite—I was called pretty yesterday and I said thanks, they smiled and we kept stepping. But some of ‘em— ?

  • KcoolMuziq

    I've seen MANY men just speak to women POLITELY and they just keep walking.I think that is so rude.

  • FukkFolks2018

    They have been harrassed so much they aint trying to hear ANYTHING. They arent rude. They are conditioned.

  • Dun Dilly

    Democratic Party right now is very butchy.

  • datjerk

    We aren't OBLIGATED to say anything one way or the other. We dont owe yall shit. Try addressing us as human beings and not like objects.

  • It’s Real Talk! Period!!

    Exactly

  • Miss Thang

    rude??? I don't know you! What reason do you have to speak to me, sir? I am not your sister, mother, or friend. please leave me alone. ESPECIALLY if I'm walking alone in the street. At that point, I see you as nothing but a threat to my safety. You are bigger than me, stronger than me, and have no reason to speak to me. Go mind your own business like I'm doing mine.

  • KcoolMuziq

    ?

  • Neva RuthLess

    Ever heard of PTSD? It’s very real for women. After so many terrible experiences with strange men you learn quickly to not engage with them at all and just keep on walking. Why is it so hard for men to understand that men are a real threat and danger to women?

  • SumthinSweeter

    Smh. Sorry but not sorry. Too many black women suffering the same fate or similar go unreported or underreported in news outlets unless they are famous or linked to someone whom is a celebrity. All of these white cracker jacks say the most asinine things all over the news, all over the world, everyday all day. But let 1 black woman have her say and it's panic and finger pointing. Sandra you should be ashamed for falling once again into the white man's trap of pitting blacks against blacks.

  • Karen Brady

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • pure_rachet

    I thought she was EJ Johnson at first glance

  • Nik

    Some men see the acknowledgment as an invitation to engage further. I wear headphones so I get away with smiling and sliding on.

  • Nik

    I'm glad her family put that narrative in check.

  • What???

    Yes I’m speaking in general terms but everyone has to pay a price in the culture they’re a part of. The victim in this article has karma just like everyone and everything...

  • Miss Thang

    exactly! they mistake politeness for flirting! then pursue you like a damn prey and they're a damn predator in the wild.

  • indano

    Symone doesn't want to call him an illegal immigrant....goes against her narrative.

  • Renee26

    She told no lies

  • Nik

    I HATE when they say that. That tells me that it was their intent in the first place to make you feel intimidated. Another good reason to get the heck on down the road.

  • Overpower Radio

    Smh: Even though he was an illegal immigrant, you can check the history of women who died violent deaths like this and were attacked (or even raped) in a similar encounter, and you'll find that this tragedy is not something that one should think a solution for it is the racist narrative against Mexicans and illegal imagrants. - like she said.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree 100%. Legal immigrants from all over the world have to go thru a pretty extensive process to come to the US, with the paperwork, the interviews, and criminal background check. I feel like Central Americans should be no different, no special treatment. They can go through the same process.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    But we shouldnt just paint this as a "toxic maculinity" issue while ignoring the "illegal immigrant" issue though. One doesnt cancel out the other.
    Every crime commited against a US citizen by an illegal alien is an outrage. It's a crime that simply didnt need to happen because the illegal alien shouldnt have even been here in the first place.

  • EMILY POST

    Chick with a fade giving us a lecture about toxic Masculinity... yaaas lawwwd...
    Toxic Masculinity. Or Toxic failed immigration laws and policy... lack of enforcement of laws to groups they stereotype as non threatening and docile..
    Once again the “black” liberal democratic pawn out to fight the illegal immigration battle...

  • datjerk

    We did earlier this week.

  • datjerk

    Nope. It's a thing.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Liberals can never admit when they're wrong.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Now, now... Liberals are never wrong. We shouldn't blame this criminal for breaking the law before he even touched Mollie.

  • Kayke

    Pedos.... How many of these encounters end in death at the hands of the female?

  • Pamela

    In due time Karen. Patience my sista. Lol!

  • iWasteTime

    I call teachers who rape their male students, after the male students say NO a rapist. (Male or female) Understand the context. You're comparing apples to oranges. I hope the next man you say no to, in any way, allows you to walk away unharmed.

  • iWasteTime

    and after the male student said NO?

  • Bdot

    Deceptecons are just being stupid. His alien status has nothing to do with this murder. Murderers come in all shapes, sizes, and immigration statuses. To attach this to the immigration debate and attempt to justify the xenophobia with this case, is just retarded and manipulative. So, if he was not an illegal alien, it's fine? Deceptecons are trying to take an instance of murder, and make it the face of justification of their xenophobia. Whack.

  • Kayke

    ....are they killed? Nope

  • Itzgoingdown2

    What do you call these teachers raping younger male students? Or the woman supervisors who sexually harass a male subordinate? I’ll wait for your answer. lol

  • dru and neil

    Did he/she give any insight into their personality?

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    She expressed an opinion or shall I say a one-sided "truth" that's it and THATS ALL... CAUSE AS FARVAS IM CONCERNED DUDE EMBODIED ALL THAT AND THE ILLEGAL NEGATIVE CONOTATION ALL WRAPPED UP IN ONE! JMO!

  • Ryan

    "Trump Organization executive Allen Weisselberg, who allegedly helped arrange hush-money reimbursement to Cohen, receives immunity"

    So much hittin' the fan you can't even SEE the fan anymore. SMH

  • Nik

    Exactly. Just fodder for their agenda. Had the man had the face of a typical serial killer, instead we'd be talking about how he had a damaged childhood and someone failed him.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    She resembled Jodie Arias.
    I do agree with Sis.

    There are too many men (people) with non-existent coping skills.

    I was just discussing this with someone today, "People who can not emotionally handle the word, NO, because of their low self esteem and bad upbringing."

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    And white boys shooting up the schools.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Exactly.

  • Lolly Asher

    Er I thought toxic masculinity was a meme.

  • Lady_Elle

    I agree with her...
    with this young woman recently murdered... NOT THE TIME to say this!!!

    An illegal immigrant did it and her family, friends, loved ones... aren't ready to think about anything else at this time! They are angry and grieving their loss.

  • teather

    She's absolutely right. Thank God I wasn't killed but my friend and I did have a gun pulled on us for the same reason. Minding our own business walking down the street. He hollered. She (my friend) ignored him. He pulled out a gun on both of us and said, "next time I tell you to come you come". I'll never forget that for the rest of my life. Traumatized me forever to where when men 'holler" I acknowledge with respect and keep going. I don't want to end up like Molly, ridiculous but real.

  • datjerk

    I call them pedophiles, because that's what they are. As far as the supervisor/subordinate situation you questioned, no matter if its a male or female, it's called sexual harrassment....right? That's what I call it anyway.

  • teather

    Lawyers and his family have stated he is not an "illegal immigrant" and even if he were, that wouldn't change a thing. The fact that their loved one is gone is enough to deal with. We don't care about the details on Zimmerman, all we care about is that he took Trayvon's life. This family feels the same way.

  • Lady_Elle

    AGREED!!!

  • Elevated Soul

    Another pathetic Black Liberal following the lead of her White liberal masters taking up for a criminal illegal alien.

    Smart people realize that the fact that he is an illegal alien is detrimental in this because he shouldn't even be in this country. There are murderers in all races but in this case,it was someone who is in this country illegally.

    Mollie Tibbetts was murdered/probably raped by the ILLEGAL ALIEN. Here is the most ironic thing: Mollie sympathized with people like her killer. Like many White liberals,she also said "I hate White people",so she was one of the loony left--->RIP Mollie.

    Mollie became a victim of what she politically supported. More than likely she was indoctrinated through Fake News as well as college.

  • Lady_Elle

    Oh... I didn't realize that he was not an "illegal immigrant".

  • Nik

    Very good point.

  • Elevated Soul

    Indeed....Liberals are so self righteous and just too arrogant to admit the truth.

  • Gamer?? Chick

    I’m glad the loser didn’t fire upon you too but its very sad that you two were traumatized, blessing to you sister.

  • Karen Brady

    Thank you.

  • Phillybruh

    Nah she was crushed because she said he was a nice young man.

  • hottlanta

    Legal white man murdered his pregnant wife n kids saw it in the news one time. Illegal brown man murders 1 white woman n it is discussed all day everyday. Where is the white outrage when they kill each other.

  • voyageurs47

    Hoping he does not get deported, crosses the border AGAIN and commits another crime. He needs to stay locked up forever.

  • voyageurs47

    I don't feel bad either and I am a LEGAL Mexican.

  • voyageurs47

    I do! :)

  • hottlanta

    Yep especIally if they went the extra mile 2 bath douche n plus brought a new outfit.

  • Enoughsaid2020

    Men kill women everyday in the USA, has nothing to do with illegal immigrants. Don't fall into the propaganda of the media.

  • Eileen

    Tragic...it is not toxic masculinity it is illegal masculinity the man should not have been in my country! Liberals will not be happy until we are a 3rd world country with men prancing and lesbians leading the country! God help us!

  • Eileen

    I am so sorry this happenedition to you

  • Eileen

    Chick with a fade looks like she hates all men unless they are prancing while she is leading. Liberals need therepy and Jesus

  • Eileen

    Finally someone on this tread makes sense.

  • Eileen

    He should not have been in the country! This tragedy could have been avoided

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    So what about the white man who murdered his two daughters and white pregnant wife?

    Shove your racism and homophobia where the sun doesn't shine.

  • ?? Kari ?????????

    Cnn sucks.

  • Eileen

    Symone I pray women. Like you never have sons..

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    She said it's because of a subculture that exists.

    There are guys who call themselves incels.

    That Asian dude who murdered six people several years ago in California was one of them.

    Another was this guy who mowed down mostly women on a sidewalk in Canada earlier this year.

    What they have in common is they are socially awkward and they blame women because they can't get laid.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    That's why people like Sandra are always trying to pit blacks against Hispanics.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Except their countries are mess because the U.S. under the CIA has been interfering in their government for decades.

  • Itzgoingdown2

    Well then then that same applies to men raping and or harassing women.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    And you're led by weak beta males like Trump who has to pay for sex.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    MLJ: It's a crime that simply didnt need to happen because the illegal alien shouldnt have even been here in the first place.

    You can extrapolate that across all acts of violence because none of them are justified.

    You can say that about vehicular manslaughter or when a spouse kills another spouse because they wanted the insurance money or didn't want to be married any more.

  • Gail

    I agree with her sentiment, just not the timing or the phrasing. Seems like she was trying to coin a new phrase or something. Fact is his status had nothing to do with WHY he attacked Mollie; perhaps mental illness, perhaps ego, perhaps just plain evil.

  • datjerk

    Obviously

  • Itzgoingdown2

    Toxic femininity? Men haters and these made up useless words. smmfh

  • samuel severino

    Preach. And they always use us as attack dogs to agenda push and but to also take the heat if people protest hard.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Did you hear the latest? Healthline and the liberal state of California have banned the word "vagina" because it is not inclusive of men in dresses. Residents must now use the term "front hole" to describe the vagina. ?

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I hope you use that same logic if there is another school shooting. Don't blame Trump, white men, guns or the NRA. ?

  • Being bad is way more fun

    Its funny the jails and prisons are full of white men doing this to many women at a time but thats fine but let one or two illegals do anything and These same people go crazy. If you cant stop all the white folks from killing how you going to stop illegals ??

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The difference is they are American citizens. He is an illegal who crossed the border. A border wall would have kept him out, and Mollie would be alive today.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I have Hispanic friends who are dear to me. They are not criminal illegals. They came here legally.

  • Dun Dilly

    SEX is NEVER free, though.

  • Itzgoingdown2

    Wow, I feel sorry for mostly middle, upper middle class and rich black parents trying to raise their kids in that state. Their kids are going to have serious sexual and racial identity issues. (I don’t think the poor blacks are affected as much because they have so many other problems).

  • Gail

    Actually, I think it is the same logic - blame the perpetrators, not the politics. Nevertheless, I would use any and every opportunity to blame Trump....such an easy target...as for guns....love them!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    LOL.

    So you've bought the scapegoating and stereotyping of 'illegals' that Republicans have been peddling.

    Did you hear Newt Gingrich that this girl's murder will help Republicans win in the fall?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    SR: A border wall would have kept him out, and Mollie would be alive today.

    So why has the Republican controlled-Congress refused to fund Trump's wall for the past 18 months?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Three guest votes?

    More pathetic than usual.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I don't know what you're talking about. The wall is being built right now. Hundreds of panels have been installed. Maybe you're watching too much CNN?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    No, they are repairing the wall.

    No money has been appropriated for Trump's wall which will take decades and will never be built because it will involve the government taking private land and of course Republicans will have found another scapegoat beyond 'illegals' by then.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    LOL.

    And they get scapegoated and stereotyped by the same people who suddenly hate 'illegals'.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    So is the victim any more dead if they were killed by an illegal?

    The vast majority of people are harmed by people they know but we know you have an agenda.

    You can attack the same people that white people attack but you will never be white.

    I learned that lesson when I was in 11th grade.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    And those incidents occur far more frequently than 'illegals' harming someone.

    This 'illegal' nonsense is about conservatives finding another scapegoat now that they have moved from bashing gays and blacks.

    I see someone has another screen name.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The same thing can be said about the guy who killed Mollie, but Newt Gingrich made the point that Republicans can win in November if they can use Mollie's murder as a wedge issue.

  • EMILY POST

    The fact is she was murdered by somebody who wasnt even suppose to be in the country and if America would enforce its immigration laws, like it enforces the law to the fullest extent to minorities like black people you wouldnt have those type of problems. ... Now we get to watch the dumbocrats deflect.... They make dumb statements like what about the white people who kill people... uhmmm What about catch and release... Democrats not wanting ICE...

  • Jack Blakk

    Would it have been masculinity if a brother would have killed that European sista? Sometimes we need to worry about ourselves and let the off brands take a L, sista (E.J. 2)!

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    I've had some lesbians curse me clean out and get crazy tight bra strap mad when I rejected them letting them know I am straight, so her masculine ass hating masculinity can miss me

  • Overpower Radio

    "Toxic masculinity" is just her choice of words for THE EXACT issue. That is actually a term the defines the act wherever it takes place, when a man's ego is bruised, or his lust for a female that isn't interested in him leads him to harm.

    What you're claiming is a time to be outraged - is the racism that lives within you PAINTED in a vail of patriotism (or political beliefs) that decides who is and who isn't legal.

    There are so-called illegals over here doing things that BENEFIT American citizens. Are you equally outraged at the thought of an 'illegal alien' saving an American life? Would you push the narrative that excites outrage, saying they shouldn't be here in the first place?

    Why should an American be more outraged because the assailant wasn't an American?

  • datjerk

    "I see someone has another screen name."

    Whet?

  • Chuck

    I agree with this lady.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Hundreds of panels have been installed?

    That sounds more like a fence than a wall.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    And your 'legal' Hispanic friends from becoming citizens if they have used Obamacare or SNAP.

    I hope none of your friends had relatives who supported Trump.

    Ha,ha,ha!!!

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/07/trump-administration-seeks-to-limit-legal-immigrants-becoming-citizens/

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    'Legal' resident aliens are not the problem. The problem is illegal immigration, which your party supports. Leftist news organizations spin the truth to cause confusion. Legal immigrants are here legally. Got it?

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Whatever you call it, it's a very durable wall.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    It's not a permanent wall

    Keep believing in your Cheetos Jesus.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Did you read the link?

    Actually 'illegal' immigrants aren't a problem.

    They are just the most recent scapegoats for Republicans who got tired of picking on gays and blacks.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Illegal immigrants are in this country illegally. What part of "illegal" don't you understand? They are criminals who waste local resources, don't pay their taxes, steal identities, take away jobs from Americans - and that's just the short list.

  • https://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Border Wall Construction Begins in San Diego
    June 1, 2018

    "The third U.S. border-wall construction project started today in San Diego just east of Border Field State Park.

    The construction project will replace approximately 14 miles of eight -to-10 foot high scrap metal wall with an 18-to-30 foot bollard-style wall topped off with an anti-climbing plate. The project begins approximately one-half mile from the Pacific Ocean coastline and extends eastward to the base of Otay Mountain in East County San Diego. The $147 million contract for this project was awarded to SLSCO, a Texas-based construction corporation."

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/border-wall-construction-project-starts-san-diego-sector

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    "The construction project will replace approximately 14 miles of eight -to-10 foot high scrap metal wall with an 18-to-30 foot bollard-style wall topped off with an anti-climbing plate. "

    Did you actually read it?

    It said it's REPLACING what's already there. There is no NEW wall being built.

    Read your own ish before you post it and make a fool of yourself.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    How can illegals be taking away jobs from Americans if the unemployment rate is at record lows?

    That 'illegal' who killed Mollie was employed by a white Republican for four years.

    Interestingly it only took the authorities only a few days to realize that he had a fake name.

    If these white racists weren't employing these 'illegals' they wouldn't come into the country.

    Then white people can't pass drug tests for jobs and blacks can't be hired because they have criminal records.

    Ha,ha,ha!!!

    Go read about how parts of Alabama became ghosts town after they implanted their little anti-immigrant laws back in 2010.

    Fields of produce rotted because these farmers couldn't find any white or black people to harvest the produce even though they were paying up to $10/hour.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Trump admitted that he doesn't pay taxes and he got elected president by the white racists that you love so much.

    Americans are the ones who are stealing the identities of other Americans and selling them to illegals.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    This black man sees no need to make excuses for illegal immigrants who come here and commit crimes, expecially violent crimes like murder. Any crime such a person commits is a crime that would have been 100% prevented if that illegal alien had been kept out of the country. If you dont get that, then I can't help you. Call me "racist" if you want (very ignorant comment), but I said what I said. I'm entitled to my opinion just as you're entitled to yours. Good night.

  • Eileen

    Black folks have ABSOLUTELY no business being liberals! We can't as a people afford the nonsense of the ideology they pander. Look at our community! The looney left is now using black women to push their crazy agenda! thats right get the black women to do our biding! Have her be nonsexual (mammy style) no husband or man anywhere in her life, look butchy to make sure no man is attracted to you and get to work with our agenda to destroy your black community. God help us! The sad part is I dont hear anything from the black church because they bought into this destructive agenda via obama! "nuff said"

  • parisjok

    great statement

  • Itzgoingdown

    Black gays are now in leadership positions in most black churches.

  • Storm’s Rage!

    I dont even think that the illegal did it. I bet some white man did it and blame the Mexican. I mean what is he gonna do about it, if he's an illegal. Its the perfect crime.

  • Eileen

    It is just crazy...and they say it's normal..

  • Itzgoingdown2

    Probably because I'm a big sports fan but this is one of the most shocking stories I've seen this year. How many other athletes are being robbed by "advisors"....?

    ? Garnett learned that he lost millions of dollars in 2017 only after his former financial adviser, Charles Augustus Banks IV, was sentenced to three years in prison by a federal judge for stealing money from another NBA great, former San Antonio Spurs star Tim Duncan.

    ? Last month, the federal appeals court upheld Banks’s conviction. He is currently serving his sentence at the minimum security FPC Montgomery in Montgomery, Ala. Banks is not named in the lawsuit.

    ? In 2013, Garnett was living on a budget allegedly set up by Banks with Wertheim’s input. The professional athlete asked for $40,000 of his own money, a request Banks denied in an e-mail that indicated Garnett was to curtail spending, not increase it.

    “Its pretty ugly and going to be very difficult but you can do it and it will change your life forever (financially),” Banks wrote.

    Around the same time, Banks allegedly shifted $2.2 million from a shared investment account and later transferred $14.8 million — accounting for about half as a loan — into accounts he alone controlled.

    ? Garnett contributed $57 million into one shared investment account, called Hammer Holdings LLC, while Banks threw in $2.5 million. “Banks routinely used significant sums of Hammer’s funds for his own purposes . . . to hire private jets, to take his family on lavish vacations.”

    ? Banks allegedly transferred “millions of dollars” to his wife, a Danish fine wine collector, and “unidentified parties in Hong Kong and Norway.”
    ? Banks allegedly invested Garnett’s money in a California restaurant that failed, a winery and a hotel fund, coastal properties, a music company, a wine magazine, and “entities that may be further discovered.”

    ? Between the two professional athletes, Banks allegedly misappropriated about $100 million in cash. According to federal court records, Duncan has been repaid about $7 million by Banks.

    bostonglobe(.)com/metro/2018/09/07/former-celtic-star-kevin-garnett-lawsuit-seeks-recoup-millions-lost/HJVJbV3CxEBxydd3mjRu1N/story.html#comments