A judge set bond at $1 million for R&B singer R. Kelly at a hearing in Chicago on Saturday. Kelly, 52, was arrested last night on 10 charges of aggravated criminal sex abuse of minors under 17. The judge specified no contact with women under 18 after he posts bond.
Cook County Judge John Fitzgerald Lyke Jr., who recently granted bond to disgraced actor Jussie Smollett, called the allegations against Kelly “disturbing.” He said the bail amounts to $250,000 for each of the four underaged victims.
Kelly was also ordered to surrender his passport as a condition of his bond. He is required to put up 10% of the $1 million bond ($100,000).
After the hearing, Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx revealed new graphic details from the indictment.
Foxx said one underage victim attended Kelly’s trial in 2008, where he was acquitted of 13 counts of child porn. The girl asked Kelly for his autograph and he invited her to visit him at his Cook County home. Foxx said between May 1, 2009 and January 31, 2010, the victim willingly engaged in repeated sexual contact with the singer.
The victim said he slapped and choked her and ejaculated on her. She turned over her semen-stained t-shirt to the police. A DNA analysis determined Kelly deposited the semen on the shirt.
Kelly’s defense attorney Steve Greenberg said Kelly’s accusers are lying for fame and profit.
“I think all the women are lying, yes,” Greenberg said on Friday night. “This has become, ‘Hey, R Kelly – I can say R Kelly did something’ – boom. There was a press conference yesterday, ‘Oh, these two girls were assaulted by R Kelly!’ And the lawyer stood there with a picture of LL Cool J.”
It appears that the two R Kelly accusers who Gloria Allred represents has no proof that they actually met R Kelly. So Gloria needed a photo of the women with ANY Black man. And because the assumption is all Black ppl look alike, Gloria knew the media would run with it pic.twitter.com/NAarYzun7P
— Tariq Nasheed ?? (@tariqnasheed) February 23, 2019
The new charges come a month after Lifetime Television aired a documentary Surviving R Kelly detailing multiple allegations of abuse by women who were above the age of consent.
Two of the accusers who appeared in the documentary, Joycelyn Savage and Azriel Clary walked hand-in-hand into the Leighton Criminal Courthouse on Saturday to attend Kelly’s bond hearing.
Jocelyn Savage (left) & Azriel Clary walk into the Leighton Criminal Courthouse for R. Kelly's first court appearance following his arrest on charges he sexually abused four people, including three underage girls pic.twitter.com/K3agPaPCPv
— Gossipofthecity (@gossipoftheciti) February 23, 2019
Greenberg suspects that Illinois State Attorney Kim Foxx was pressured to bring charges against Kelly – for example to distract the media from disgraced actor Jussie Smollett’s troubles.
“I had a discussion with the state’s attorney’s office earlier this week [and] we were supposed to meet next week and have a discussion about what they had,” Greenberg said. “I was gonna be allowed to address what they had, then they just decided to indict him today for whatever reason. I suspect this is succumbing to public pressure.”
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The sister wives are gonna hook up with each other once he doesn’t get out. They look super comfy with one another.
The sister wives do look super comfy with each other. And what is pathetic is that it could be their little sisters or little nieces the next time and they look like they would be cool with it. And trust and believe if he doesn’t get convicted there will be a next time.
They don’t even think there is anything wrong with them being with a 52-year old fat man with titties, so they wouldn’t recognize it in a family member. They are giving up their youth to a geriatric man who is on his way to prison.
Chile …… this is just tew damn merch https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da34f1d45bbfa9bed6e74e0f32bbac44faf3964d74f6436762e0a27015fce02c.gif
If Kellz don’t hav Drea 190,000 dollas bi Mar 6 his as gon be locked up. And I don’t mean in no dam closet
… And bet that they are going to be visiting him if/when he is convicted. My daddy had an entire “stable of women” at the same dam time. He said they were his Dames. (OG talk) but his chicks were all participants and loved it! But, his was a master manipulater… They were all like best friends. O and they were all over 21. Shm. These women need to know their worth. But hell they prolly just thinking about the money ? ? ? anyway. Those young girls…..damn. ?????
Only way he stays away from under aged girls is if they keep his sick az locked up.
That’s a lot going on chile https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/51c6b3f7a6512ebaa1918af76267cbf3565dd650397e2957034187e652b8b8a3.gif ….. Karma ….. Finished !!!
I’d like to see those girls up top brought up on charges too
Yeah…cause they sleep and live together … They don’t want to lose his support. They asses need to go to jail too
Those bitches would probably serve their little sisters and nieces up to Robert on a platter. One of them is the one that tried to prevent a girl, who’s mother came to rescue from the hotel, from leaving
Too little, too late, way too many victims phuck the system it failed too many of his victims (the children) already they’re damaged.
They are gonna age out if he has to spend 7 years in prison. He will toss them to the curb, and get some new meat. He ain’t gonna change.
It’s a total disgrace for a Judge to tell a grown as man to stay his grown as away from otha peepo churn. How low can one sink
Oh yeah. In that case you’re right they would serve any young girl to him. Damned shame what this world is coming to. Some people just have no morals and no sacredness for life.
Exactly, so then what’s next for them? Standing on a street corner because they are used to lurid sex? How dare they show their faces in court in support of this pedophile.
He’s one of dem defiant nuggas….he gon try the system
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Neva gonna change.
“How low can one sink?”
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For him to sink into the bowels of the earth would not be low enough.
NO PROOF! Gloria Allred finna leave her clients faster than she did Rasputia the Usher herpie girl. Btw, I can’t stand Gloria or her daughter they’re irking angry negro paper chasers.
I pray they show up front and center during his trial. Let him flaunt his penchant for young chicks in the juries face. Idiot.
She apparently is not doing her due diligence and getting proof first before she retains a client.
The two women walking into the courthouse aren’t accusers. They’re his current girlfriends/sex slaves. This evidence is sounding shaky. Is there a way to test that the semen stained shirt is ten years old when she was underage? I mean it’s a little weird to hold on to a shirt for 10 years. Why was she at the first trial…a groupie? Total time in prison…seven years. They did this to keep this man from touring abroad and making money.
I strongly doubt they’re getting much money out of this though. He might have them housed in a comfortable living situation, but I doubt hes paying them anything, or even giving them some kind of allowance.
If he goes to prison and they have to return to their families, I suspect they’ll probably end up leaving penniless with maybe some bags of their clothes, and that’s it. They will have wasted some of the prime years of their lives on this man, with basically nothing to show for it.
They’re all lovers.
Those DNA test results are going to seal his fate. He’s done.
Maybe he and Bill Cosby can be penpals in prison.
I just said this. Wasting their youth on a man who’s star isn’t even shining anymore.
LBVS! ?
Yes. We already know that. It just seems like they would like to be coupled up at this point.
It’s really not that difficult to understand. She met him during his trial. She was forced into sex AFTER that, and saw how someone who was literally ON TAPE was not believed. She had smart people around her that told her to preserve it. It’s not like she can fake the DNA unless you’re a wacky conspiracy theorist, and if you are, then we can just choose not to talk. BTW…you can test DNA much older than 10 years old. Did you not see the story of the man who just got busted for killing a girl over 30 years old with DNA? You need a link?
They keep the girls in line and train them… Allegedly
If we recognize that they are victims, then why would we charge them? Are we supposed to re-victimize them because we know that they’re stupid? Can you remember that one relationship that you couldn’t see what everyone else could? The one where you were being made a fool of, but didn’t recognize it? This is them. Only magnified. They don’t need charges They need help.
Only thing going for him is being tried in Chicago its not like NYC where just because you have money you guilty. Cronyism is at another world up there.
???that pic tho!!!
Yup, giving them money would make it easier for them to escape. If they’re pissing in buckets chances are he’s not lining their pockets. They are brainwashed and in it for him, nothing else at this point.
Perf!!
Hmmm is C-men stains viable afta alla these years?
Now he’s guilty of a lotta things, but I’m not down with Barry White-in-a-Wig looking broad? don’t believe it. Is she the same chick in the pic with LL Cool J ? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b6fa7f63b5e1a7faba2b198aba279909175bf7616634d65b17377f59cdd3b22.png
yes
Well I would almost agree with you, but Drea falls into the same category as Barry White chic. Js
Thank you! This story is all over the place.
You will NOT put Drea on Barry White that there is a nigga named Roscoe
These dudes don’t give a damn what a woman looks like? I don’t give a damn how much money they have, nobody is out of their league. Especially a disgusting pedophile like R Kelly. If he is willing to sleep with children, he has zero standards in my eyes.
Well the hairstylist was a grown woman it could be argued that they had sex and she saved the Shirt as a souvenir for having sex with a celebrity the question will arise why she didn’t report it. What other proof does she have other than the shirt
At the time she was a hairstylist she wasn’t under age I thought it said she was grown she is accusing him of sexual assault right?
Add these fools with R Kelly’s pathetic nasty @ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/79f2b1f34d8ff69a34d9a9122087c03e297ba6ea0ea8e5baf28d86ca5f7933d4.jpg
From the writeup above, it’s the underage girl (the one who met him at his trial) who saved the t-shirt with his DNA.
Whatever her reasons or motivation for keeping the shirt, she was a minor at that time, so that’s all that’s going to matter in court. Any sex they had was a crime on his part.
Exactly. Anybody who’s watched any of these true crime shows on cable has seen cases like that before.
Lots of people have been convicted on rape or murder charges based on evidence where the DNA samples were decades old.
They need to pin a face to the abuses:
Only Bill Cosby has paid for the #metoo – prison
They tried to put the pedophile problem on the corpse of M. Jackson
R. Kelly will take the rap for all pedophiles – prison
In the meanwhile Weinstein, Spacey, and Singer and dozens of others are nowhere near a court of law.
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Funny!
Weinstein has a court date in May….
Aha.
That’s the prosecutor.
? thanks, I was wondering who she was ?….kept seeing her across the media
exactly, when are the women going to be prosecuted
Foxx said one underage victim attended Kelly’s trial in 2008…The girl asked Kelly for his autograph and he invited her to visit him at his Cook County home. Foxx said between May 1, 2009 and January 31, 2010, the victim willingly engaged in repeated sexual contact with the singer.
Doesn’t underaged mean below the legal age of legal consent?
So the word willing was thrown in as a red herring then? Oh okay.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f8de4bcb3a33559cb43728b188e82cf3e47b08f823877b246550b101583438a3.gif
I’m all confused. This happened 20 years ago and nobody says anything until now. Hanging on to old semen shirts. I mean what’s really going on. Sexual assault involving a three minors should net more than seven years. Something is not adding up. I’m wonder if that videotape is any good.
Just take me back ..70s 80s 90s ?..times like these make me feel blessed to have grown up when the bad was good even when the good seem bad!
Come on. She was a groupie at his first sex assault trial. She allegedly engaged in a nearly long year booty call relationship with him…she says. She seems like a stalker who either threw herself at him or stole the shirt. The shirt does not prove that SHE had sex with him. Weak.
Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones….
You’re clearly a fan. You live in Chicago right? He’s always recruiting. You’re probably a little too long in the tooth for him though. Maybe you can read the comments on the blogs to his illiterate ass. ^^^she stole the shirt…bitch you’re delusional*** Ain’t nobody pressed enough to bring him down.
Those who don’t sleep with underage children can throw boulders….
To answer her question a pedophile
So it wasn’t the hairstylist who kept the shirt lord Jesus I’m confused let me go back and read all this stuff again. Now that you said that the girl who attended his trial was on the documentary didn’t she mention something about having the shirt on there? All these stories starting to run together
Anddddd….
People are blaming the victims, but what I wanna know is…why isn’t anybody blaming R. Kelly’s accomplices?
I read some where that R Kelly would send “security” or “body guards” or others in his camp…to go and bring the little girls to him after concerts. That means they were complicit. I’ve yet to read where R Kelly threw a blanket over a child’s head and abducted her.
Or lured one into his van with promises of candy or to look for his lost puppy.
I know they say he trolled schools, but folks around him HAD to have seen him with the prepubescent girls, why didn’t they say something back then? Charge them too!!
Dammit, I want errrybody held accountable!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf1a5c0514f25c83b2fc814387c5c95367cb8b02d88b7904dc68b75454cefb25.gif
Im just as confused I thought at first I had a clear understanding but the more stuff come out it’s getting confusing cuz his lawyer said the tape is if they the same girl from the infamous tape that had him on trial before so idk I gotta go back and read some stuff maybe I missed something
^^^THIS^^^!!!
Exactly!!!! The parents who allowed their children with him should go to jail the security Garuda should go to jail. But let me drop something on you real quick I was in IG and me and Gilbert got into a little back and forth about this when the documentary came out he replied to me saying that he knows or spoke to one of the girls who felt with rkelly and she told him basically if they told on him they ass would be going to jail too because they did somethings now let that sink in. Now recall the lady in the documentary who said she and rkelly had 3 somes with the underage girl from the video. I think this is the same one who said she was recruiting other girls for him and bringing them to him. Some of his “victims” maybe accomplices
??? I was gone say!!
I promise, that groupie irks my soul with his dumb ass comments.
Wowwwwwww!!!
Huh?!?!
If she was a minor she can’t consent tosex
Thats facts. You’re looking lovely as usual slaying them with the swag
Kevin Space was arrested in December and charged with sexual assault. He has a court hearing set for March 4th.
Why thank you dah-lingg..
Wait till I hit em with the ponytail tho… chile, they gone be SICK… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80820446d76e57aa9b5f46790877e86ff24702cec0125c03ee37ce523ed3f0b9.jpg
JenEEE https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea2169f1fc2feb1da6b64f5e04a14d8292b0bb0463039dcdbb699c0a61686c9b.gif
Snatched that pony tail right up…is lace front okay for doggies?
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@mzwhang – that’s typical of ALL and every single rock star and rap star. RK is no different. These guys are on stage and they pick out young girls from the audience. Whoever is showing the most excitement and who is the most craving his attention. I don’t know if you remember Drake had such a situation at a concert and he asked the girl he brought on stage how old she was…I think it was Drake…and she said 17….and twitter went nuts.
Unfortunately RK just went a bit too far and for whatever reason these young girls have turned on him….maybe its remorse and they’ve been feeling bad about it. Or maybe he just tosses them away after using them and they wanted more.
It’s sad. I’m going to predict that more young girls are going to come forward against other BLACK male stars and groups. It’s like a snowball. Ka-ching!
Trolling high schools. He and his crew are so vile.
Chile, my doggy said to tell you that that aint no lace front… that’s her REAL hair. She said she’s got “Engine” in her family, so stop hatin… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/810664acc8962f128a06607f5fe4ad2cf78e9358a48215477daff656ed84fef0.gif
I know one thing, that girl in the video IS NOT COMING FORWARD. Who would want to say I’m the girl in the video and testify against him? She would be ostracized for the rest of her life. And I betcha he has more videos. I bet he has a safe deposit box filled with videos. He just seems that type, and he would use it against the women.
What part of willing don’t you understand?
After the trial, I heard that his attorney told him to only have sex with women 18 and older. I don’t think he got the message, after 2008, because these women are claiming they were with him after 2008.
WHO keeps semen on their T-shirt for years?
Wh…nvrmind… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/40456b41eee2b5afd91e29e4b613a52c645d51a192259079e45659287e04ae06.gif
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Drake’s response to her age was “I can’t go to jail yet. Why do you look like that?” then he kissed her hands, cheeks and mouth. He is also alleged to have been flirting with a 14 year white actresses.
LMAO Whang!!!!
Bwahaha red dot or feather lollllz
Drake was 23 at the time and the legal age in Canada is 17. Way different that R sneaking and preying on girls
They are beyond help… If your reasoning applied to this situation then Robert should also still be considered a victim here. At some point these people made a conscious decision to victimize others…so yes, IMO they should be punished too.
Omg…srsly. Funny. Perf. Ty..
Log out Whang!!! ???????!!!
Neither Jocelyn or Azriel accused him of anything. Their parents are doing all the talking and from how it all seems these 2 seem to be sticking by his side.
Then stop commenting hoe.
Drake knew what he was doing. He said that just to get the audience going the age of consent in Colorado is 17. That was back in 2010 so he was 20/21.
If I were a young girl having consensual sex with a celebrity man, I wouldn’t want my business out there. It’s embarassing. He may have tapes of them having sex. They may have agreed to the sex tapes – you know, people make sex tapes to replay and judge their performance. It’s just embarassing to have your sexual habits out in the public.
They could contact or go see their parents right now but they choose not to. There’s more going on between these women and their parents than what’s being told. Azriel was suicidal when she met R. Kelly at a concert her parents took her to. Hmmmm.
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Damn… Barry in a wig ?
That’s ENUF, Young Lady!! OFF to bed with ya!!
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Hux!!!
Foddy!!
Suuuppp
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Y U…of course*winks*
Y is my dahling woozy?
Oh Hux…
Girl my sons 5th birthday party…which was super fun…but add to it my mom…mmmm…?
5 is such a precious time! But I told yall adults about bringing 100% proof libations to a kid’s party!!
I guess you’ve never heard of Stockholm Syndrome.
I have seen it up close with my own family and it’s tragic.
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Watch black women get blamed for this too. “Conspiring with the ‘MAN’ to bring another brotha down.” . . . smh. Shyt is insane.
Wh00p doesn’t look horrendous there^. She looks kinda normal.
Both
I don’t think so
Auntie @sandrarose 4 high profile names are quietly released in that rub and tug massage parlor sex trafficking sting now I will say this I bet if they dig deeper they will find these men have committed other sexual crimes because once you stoop so low to buy puss from unwilling victims with subpar hygiene when you got high class clean puss practically throwing it in yo face you’ll do anything ALLEGEDLY! Anyway here is the line up Former Citigroup president John Havens, 62, was charged with soliciting
Another billionaire, 77-year-old John Childs, was likewise busted in the sting
Johnny DelPrete, the boyfriend of LPGA star Jessica Korda, was also charged
Patriots owner Robert Kraft was allegedly caught on tape in sex acts twice. All these men will get probation and it will be hush hush about the proceedings btw Kraft is at a pre Oscar party
I’m sorry to here that,but doesn’t make what I said wrong. Sandra referred to them as 2 of his “accusers” don’t people with Stockholm usually defending there abusers? So how can these 2 women be 2 of his accusers?
Thanks Hux.
Point taken but you all seem to be missing the main point. Them being called accusers and you pretty much gave plenty of reason why they wouldn’t come forward accusing him of anything.
Well if that girl doesn’t come forward that is going to hurt the states case. His attorney will just say it was role play with her saying she was 14 and without a victim to state it was her they can’t corroborate the age of the girl. I doubt the jury convicts on all 10 counts.
It’s the truth tho they have always done this they go tell they white daddy on the black man
And Jussie Smollet according to the court judge is responsible for “the greatest evil on earth” for faking his own attempted lynching and NOT ONE white slavemaster or white man since slavery has ever been been held accountable for the lynching of black men and women including most recently the Ferguson activist’s son who was lynched (he did not commit suicide).
And Bill Cosby and R Kelly are the face of rape and pedophilia in Hollywood a city and industry where white men raping women and abusing children has been industry policy since the beginning of Hollywood history and where thousands upon thousands of white men were not and are STILL not held accountable and won’t be.
That’s a predator move on R Kelly’s part. Making a victim his cohort is a tactic to keep the victim oppressed by making them partners in crime. Predators are severley manipulative.
Yalll need to check out children of the snow on ID channel it show all these rich white millionaires and billionaires and theit extensive pedophilia clubs that thry set up. Half of them walking free right now. Look at Jeffery epstein raped over 100 kids under 16 didn’t even get 2 years.
lol,i’m a blk man and you’re probably right
Thank God it’s catching up with him now (Epstein). A judge just ruled his sentencing was illegal. He needs to never see the light of day.
Charged with WHAT? Being stupid, and loving a man that ain’t right? If that’s the case every last one of us will be in jail. Who says they are victimizing others? No one.
What about any solicitations that happened after they turned 18? Would that make them any more or less of a victim – or a predator? This whole “perverted/pedophile” for having consensual sex with teens over 16 is a slippery slope. If Kelly was going after 7-13 year olds specifically, I’d be calling his a s s a pervert too. But anything after the age of 15 is a gray area to me. Most girls lose their virginity consensually around this age, so it’s hard for me to call him a pervert when girls typically fawk older guys when they’re about 14-16.
In other words, it’s more of a legal technicality than it is perversion.
So sad… Idk if I can stomach to watch
Our legal system needs to re-evaluate what minors can consent to (on a federal level) because it’s clearly becoming a slippery slope…
unless the girl is of prepubescent age, I don’t think she should be referred to as a victim of statutory rape. In some states, girls as young as 14 don’t need their parents permission to obtain birth control or to have an abortion. These are major controversial issues that can come with psychological or emotional side effects, that the government allows a young girl to decide for herself. Baring this same logic in mind, why do we police girls who *choose* to have sex with men over 18 years old? A large population of girls lose their virginity consensually by the age of 15. We can’t tell girls that they have complete autonomy over their bodies, and construct laws that allow them to decide what they can do with their bodies, only to prosecute men who these girls *seek out* for sexual relations.
Our legal system needs some finesse, because these guys shouldn’t be criminalized as perverts simply because these girls – who are usually already sexually active – choose older men.
And trust me, it’s not just these older perverted men going after high school girls, it is very much vice versa.
I agree. 18 seems to be an arbitrary number. Maybe bc that’s when an individual wil be finished with their primary studies?
So you want the law changed to protect adults versus to protect the children and raise the age of those who can get the services you mentioned…. Interesting
Are you also a sex offender??
Really? You agree that the laws should be changed not to further protect children… But to protect grown mf who want to have sex with them?? Smmfh
Who said it… The people in the documentary series that you must not have watched ?
I agree that young girls chase grown men too. I agree that the law isn’t consistent and that the age of consent should be lowered if the law is to be consistent. This isn’t about protecting children.
It’s some sick minded people in this world… Cycles of abuse will continue. Little black girls will continue to be victimized, over sexualized and under protected.
Lmao! Chill. They are LEGALLY classified as children on SOME issues, NOT all. This was my point, that our government needs to be more consistent on what minors can consent to – hence my example on my several states that do not require a minor to have consent from their parents to have an abortion or to obtain birth control. Those are major life decisions, yet, the government doesn’t make it illegal for minors to obtain any of them services. It’s not illegal for a minor to lose their virginity (another permanent action), yet, we construct laws to prevent them from choosing their sexual partners? It just doesn’t make sense and it’s not fair to criminalize someone as a pervert for a law technicality.
If it isn’t about protecting children then who deserves protection?? How about raising the age of consent? Yeah some teens may go after older men but their brains aren’t fully developed to make good decisions. A lot of those girls have already been sexually abused and they have not had counseling or gotten help and support from ADULTS to tell them that what happend to them isn’t right.
Adults on the other hand know better…they should resist it. If a little boy offered me some teenis my adult ass won’t jump on the opportunity just cause I want some hard D ?… And yes I hear teenage boys making comments about my body all the time. But I’m an ADULT and I control the situation
Yeah it was more for something that dealt with overpopulation concerns or education – not perversion – at least not those under 13/14.
It’s extreme i know but it was really eye opening how vast and extensive their activities were and how compliment the police were in covering up for them.
Thank you!
Those states need to change their laws… The age of consent for other laws don’t need to be lowered to match those cause they’re flawed… Parents need to be involved in getting BC and sex education etc.
I can’t with these people. He/she typed all of that, and avoided the most basic common sense way of looking at it…
If a 30 year old man is sexing up your 14 year old daughter, is there any decent person who would think that’s OK? People can overthink stuff sometimes, think they’re coming up with something insightful, but in the end their argument just lacks common sense, and they cant see it.
It’s been happening forever… We see time and time again how the rich and famous get away with sex crimes…. I think the reason laws against sex offenders are so lax is because the lawmakers already know their circles are full of sexual deviants so they protect their own.
Child molestors and rapist ruin lives…but they get slap on the wrist punishments. Meanwhile their victims often struggle with depression, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity, low self esteem etc
Age of consent is an arbitrary number. Mens brains are not fully developed until 25, so then should teenagers be able to fawk men under the age of 25? That argument does not hold water. Sexual abuse is not the same as an individual that chooses their sexual partner and willfully engages. 18 being the age of consent of many states in the US is a social custom not moral.
It doesn’t look like he’ll ever get prosecuted for Federal crimes. He got a ridiculous sweetheart deal from that original prosecutor, but I don’t see the feds going back and re-charging him. But the victims are suing in Federal court, so hopefully they’ll at least get a good monetary settlement they can use to re-establish their lives and move forward.
Apparently they are part of the small percentage of people that would think it’s ok…. Cause the girl approached him… Or wore tight clothes around him SMH
No…we don’t want teens sexing adults period. Hell, I know a super childish 49yr old man. He still lives with his momma and thinks like a kid so maybe I should introduce him to a 14yr old so they can get together since their brains are on the same wavelength ?
Well, it’s illegal so you shouldn’t do that. I don’t understand why a teenager would want a grown man or vice versa. There is a disgust factor to it. However, the US seems to be pretty conservative compared to other first world countries when it comes to consent. Our laws send mixed messages.
In France it’d be fine.
The why is sometimes rooted in previous sexual abuse. Sometimes it’s home life and family situations, they need something they’re not getting at home that makes them be in a rush to grow up. When you feel like you’re grown you wanna do grown woman things…and to so many girls that means having sex. I think the upbringing will determine the age limit the child will put on her partner in a lot of cases.
Speaking of mixed messages… Look into the issue with legal child brides coming here from those countries
We have child brides here in the US. You can be married as young as 14 to an adult in some states. The laws are inconsistent. You can marry an adult but you can’t just be out here fawking an adult.
I agree.
This case is extra weak smh and why would she pull out a picture of them with ll cool j? They going to convince a jury that a woman that is willingly with him 20 years later was sexually assaulted? They let old Gloria gas them up smh
Sweet Lordt !!!! Chile
There just ain’t no justice. Even a $500MM settlement would leave this bastard super rich.
Flawed azz belief system ….. been taught that fawked up logic which in fact keeps generational cycles going ….. well fawk that logic !!!! I Break those cycles ….. you steal innocence (no matter what da age!!!) you’re fawking finished !!!!… and anyone else thinks otherwise can burn too ….. now let me finish blocking!
Sad isn’t it? Little girls and boys chase after puppies, kittens, and even bouncing balls that roll in the street. I guess we should make laws protecting animals and inanimate objects that will soon have better laws than our underage , vulnerable children. Our society constantly blames kids , who at an early age are overoxposed to highly sexual content. Toddler age children can are exposed on television , through movies made for them, their clothing and even music that being sexy and sexual is ok. By the time they are in the fifth sixth grade now they are sadly no longer innocent. Then you have people that just shift all blame on kids after the age of 12.
You’re so right. My bad. ?
Karma may be late but she’s coming ?.
In my personal opinion, the age of consent should be RAISED to twenty! Those two extra years make a difference, in terms of maturity and development.
True… But because 18 is the age they technically become adults I think 18 is a fair number across the board.
Very… I can do MY part though. If I see something wrong I’m getting involved
Sad… They need to review those laws
In some middle eastern countries they chop off your hand if you steal something. In their culture that’s fine yet we don’t do it here. Ijs.
Eighteen is such a gray area though. You’re still a teenager who’s not fully developed but able to make adult decisions. Also, a lot of predatory men are likely to chance it with a sixteen or seventeen-year-old, because It’s so close to eighteen.
You’re being ridiculous. stay on the topic and add something to the conversation. Maiming an individual isn’t analogous to a lower age of consent.
I hate Gloria and her daughter. All they do is exploit women. Most be lying. Her daughter was representing Harvey Weinstein, how hypocritical is that.
Age it consent gets even more complicated when the childs parent brings them to the predator. ?????
Regardless of whether or not this is true kelly will be in prison by the end of the year. And the patriot owner whos been trafficking women of all ages will not even get indicted .. smdh
Nor will any of the pedophile priests.
I think Amsterdam is around 16 or 17.
Lmfao
Exactly.
And exactly.
Gloria Allred and her daughter hate and exploit black people.
What I don’t understand is why R Kelly and Bill Cosby knew they were being targeted for years and were free to travel the world. Why didn’t they flee to a non extradition country?
It’s like they sat around, kicked their feet up, and waited around in the United States to be indicted and arrested. Are they THAT attached to America? Did they forget they were black men and did they not believe they were being targeted for imprisonment? Bill Cosby especially did not have to let America put him in prison.
Same for OJ who insisted on staying in the US with white people yelling murderer at him on the street and waiting for an opportunity to set him up, which they did.
The minds of these men makes no sense to me.
R Kelly is sick and wrong and his victims are deserving of justice. But this is not Karma or Justice, this is a racist witch hunt on black men. The judicial system doesn’t care one bit about the well being of and justice for black girls and women.
A child is defined as up to the age 17.
Men 18 and over will be wise to not pursue and date females 17 and under. This starts with how parents raise sons. A son raised right and not infantilized by his parents will only date girls his own age.
But grown men who are attracted to the legal definition of a child were not raised with proper perspective and understanding of boundaries. Families tend to be laxed on sons letting them have underage live in girlfriends and baby mamas.
People can see right from wrong when you look at it the other way around. Just like it’s reprehensible for a woman 18 and over to have relations with a boy 17 and under, it is reprehensible for man.
Exactly.
Kells looks very pedophilic in that pic…..
KELLY IS NOT GOING TO PRISON B/C THIS OUTRAGE FROM THE PROSECUTORS IS 20 YRS TOO LATE. THE STATUE OF LIMITATIONS HAS RUN OUT B/C THOSE VIDEOS ARE THE SAME OLD DISGUSTING ONES FROM B4. IN THIS NEW AGE OF SOCIAL MEDIA THE ARE ALL BEING OUTRAGED AND TAKING ACTION TO SAVE FACE EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW HE WON’T BE GOING TO PRISON FOR ANY OF IT ESP THESE GROWN WOMEN THAT WERE IN CONSENTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH HIM AND NOW CRYING SOUR APPLES. I FEEL NOTHING FOR THEM, ZERO SYMPATHY. THE LITTLE GIRLS WHO HE MOLESTED ARE THE ONLY VICTIMS HERE. HE’S DISGUSTING AND SO IS EVERY ONE THAT HAS AND IS WORKING FOR/WITH HIM………JENNY JONES!!!
Interesting.
he should have had NO BOND…smdh
The statute of limitations does not apply to black folks! It didnt in the cosby case and it wont here. If they have to put kelly in jail for tax or child support evasion.. they will. Oh kelly will go to jail one way or another. This is ok case all over agin.
I think all the girls and women no matter their age are victims because they had their vulnerabilities sized up and targeted and exploited. R Kelly preyed on young girls but he mainly preyed on weakness and vulnerability of any age. He wanted girls and mentally girl-like women he could control and dominate. There ARE strong young girls who would tell an R Kelly to get out of their face and then there are grown women who fall for an R Kelly game.
True… 18yr olds are still very immature for the most part but they can buy cigarettes and apply for their own ish … The age for them to make a lot of mistakes…sexual choices included lol
True
Im fckin weak ?