Rolling Stone Crowns Eminem King of Hip Hop

Sandra Rose August 16, 2011

According to Rolling Stone magazine, Eminem — not Jay Z or Kanye West — is the undisputed King of Hop Hop.

And why not? Black rappers have destroyed what once was a cerebral art form with their materialistic bragging, self hate and absentee father issues.

The ignorance that substitutes for Hip Hop today has caused true fans to turn away from the genre in droves.

While others are watching the throne, Rolling Stone was watching the numbers. Editors of the iconic music magazine used album sales and chart figures dating back 2 years in deciding who should take the crown.

“Thanks to his two latest chart-topping albums, 2009’s Relapse and 2010’s Recovery, the man otherwise known as Slim Shady sold more than two and a half times the number of albums as the second-ranked Lil Wayne during our survey period,” wrote Rolling Stone.

It doesn’t matter to Rolling Stone that Eminem, real name Marshall Bruce Mathers III, is bordering on 39 years old. Mathers embodies Hip Hop’s credo of “keeping it real” without having to tear up a $300K Maybach to do it.

Eb

Eminems 1st 2 cd’s were good, after that eh
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

Whoa, that is not a good picture of him, he has on too much make up and his lips are extra pouty.

He’s a great rapper but I don’t know if I’d crown him king just yet.
Eb

Did he get a face transplant? He looks like a serial killer
SamYell JacksEm

BS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVSiv8-ugu0 Long Time Lurker

I would sue Rolling Stone for running a picture of me looking like that.
lady_cn

His face looks like someone drew it…

Is that a stain on his shirt on the cover of a magazine? They couldn’t photoshop that??? Not a good look Marshall.
http://www.twitter.com/clolo_dafo CLowe1215

LMAO @Eb! I couldn’t put my finger on it, but you are right, he looks EXACTLY like a serial killer! What ever happened to muscular, buff, Eminem with the slicked down blond hair?

King? Eh.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

I LIKE THE LIL ANGRY WHITE MAN NOW IS HE BETTER THAN KANYE OR WAYNE BUT HE SHORE GIVE THEM A RUN FOR THEY DINERO HE DONT HAVE TO DO NO MIXTAPE HE JUST DROP AN ALBUM MAKE HIS PRECENSE FELT AND TIS ALL HE GOOD!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVSiv8-ugu0 Long Time Lurker

SamYell JacksEm says:

BS!!
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!*LaKErCHiC@*!

OH AND HE LOOKS LIKE A CHIC IN THIS FUKN PIC LOOK AT THEM LIPS
pointhimout

THEY WOULD, but whatever. The more disturbing question is when did he begin his angelina jolie transformation?

I never cared for him because he was just difficult for no reason. I remember interviewers asking him basic questions and him being an ass in the process. And when he tried to clown Will Smith, I had enough.
witeboi52

and the hating on the witeboi begins in 4….3….2….1……
SamYell JacksEm

@Witeboi
So you agree with this?
KDub

And why not? Black rappers have destroyed what once was a cerebral art form with their materialistic bragging, self hate and absentee father issues.
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Loves me some Marshall. BUT…while his lyrics may be void of alot of materalistic references….ahh drug use is considered by some a form of self hatred…and I am pretty sure he lived mostly with his crazy azz momma with no pappy. IJS
NaijaGal

Love how when white people do it they get all kinds of accolades but whatever
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@WHITE I AINT HATING I LIKE HIM HE ANGRY AND LETS IT BE KNOWN!!
anti-PC

Eh…if they say so That’s not much of a title to be proud of being that hip hop is pretty much a joke now.

Meanwhile, Mr. Mathers looks like his makeup was done by a mortician.
Eb

and the hating on the witeboi begins in 4….3….2….1……
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everybody gets the same hate here.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

This wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that he’s trying to get the greenlight for a new movie, would it

Stan will forever be one of my favorite songs.
GAGIRL87

I’m not a huge fan of Em but the Eminem Show was a classic, but what kills me is of course he’s selling more than the average “rapper” he’s WHITE… He already has the “crossover” success that most rappers dream of. HIS PEOPLE buying his chit and some of US are too. I’m not tryna make this a black ot white thing. But truth is white people will go buy REAL cd’s and not bootleg like MOST of us not ALL but most… Point blank period MAJORITY RULES and WHITE is the majority
KDub

and the hating on the witeboi begins in 4….3….2….1……
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Who is yew?

No hate from me cause I don’t know who you ill….
Daisy

@eb U told him to have a seat
Bigbadwolf

And why not? Black rappers have destroyed what once was a cerebral art form with their materialistic bragging, self hate and absentee father issues.
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I agree. Rap is not rap anymore, it’s Hip Hop. People reference ol skool with Hip Hop, but I think it should be the other way around. Every song out is a dance song with no real lyrics. Eminem has nothing but lyrics. Even his dance songs have meaning, you might not like what he has to say, but he is saying something. I personally would listen to Eminem before Jay Z or Kanye any day.
bnatural

If a black rapper had the amount of success that Eminem had, there would be no discussion on that rapper being named as the King of Rap.

Though I’m not an Eminem fan, I will say I don’t hear him going around bragging or claiming to be the king of rap like others do.

I heard about this on the radio this morning while driving to work (if it’s the same list) . I think Drake is named in the top 5. Now, I really have a problem with that.
Daisy

@Kdubb now here u go!!!
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Have you never listened to the Marshall Mathers LP? He talks about killing Kim and his mother throughout the entire album. His music is just like the rest of hip hop.

#classicthough
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

SO KANYE JAY Z WEEZY EM AND DRAKE WHO WILL RANK NUMBER ONE FOR YALL??
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

His 1st CD was Banging BUT THAT IS ABOUT IT! Now, don’t get me wrong, he’s lyrically talented but he is BY NO MEANS King of Hip Hop! As far as the above mentioned from Sandra, have you been hearing the same artist as the rest of the general public because he is one of the most conceited rappers out, he picked w/celebs (and still do) in order to become relevant, I don’t recall his father being a strong presence in his life AND he continually speaks about hurting and/or killing women. IMO he has, hands down, surpass any booty shaking in videos, chopping up maybachs, champagne flaunting, big chain wearing rapper I’ve seen thus far as far as issue are concerned!
Femme Fatale

GAGIRL87 says:

I’m not a huge fan of Em but the Eminem Show was a classic, but what kills me is of course he’s selling more than the average “rapper” he’s WHITE… He already has the “crossover” success that most rappers dream of. HIS PEOPLE buying his chit and some of US are too. I’m not tryna make this a black ot white thing. But truth is white people will go buy REAL cd’s and not bootleg like MOST of us not ALL but most… Point blank period MAJORITY RULES and WHITE is the majority
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EXACTLY what she said!
Redeemed777

Sandra, understand that eminem doesnt stand a chance. His fate is destruction.

jayz & kanye still have a chance, if only they would turn from their extreme wickedness.
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

A white man would never be a King of something my Brothers Invented…
Daisy

I would listen to Kanye/Jay over Em any day and I like some of Ems music
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@bigbadwolf i that chit he has something to say and say something in errsong… might be kinda crazy but hey its his art his way of expressing himself we chose to listen or ignore..
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

How are the white writers of Rolling Stone going to crown someone “The King of Hip Hop” I have never been an Eminem fan he always sounds like he’s rapping off beat to me. If a black person flowed the way Em did he would be just an “iight” rapper. I’m starting to believe what Nas said Hip Hop is dead…smh
MzDimplez1123

Why he look like a damned Chucky doll?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka JuicyFruit

:rollseyes: i dont agree with their choice, but its RS so
hey yall
Yardgirl

Whatever Rolling Stone Just because y’all say so don’t make it true, it’s just your opinion. Nothing again Em but King, I say not
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

HEEEEEY EVERYONE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOzfujTwDIA NikkeMinxx

..oh but when Em outdid Jay on his own song/cd the argument probably could have been started then. Top five dead or alive you have to include himint he doscussion. Drake needs to have a row of seats (c) Daisy and Eb. He doesn’t have enough material to even make the honorary mention (IMO).

good day, folks.
Daisy

@tainted I LUV Nasir Olu Dara Jones
Mamacita

I guess. I never really cared for him or his music. He was too damn angry to me.

White folks bootleg too. Who created Napster, Limewire, and all these other things to download FREE music?
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

I only listen to a few rappers like…Kanye, Mos Def, J. Cole, Common, Jay and my fav Nas
Redeemed777

Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death

PROVERBS 11:4
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

Daisy says:

@tainted I LUV Nasir Olu Dara Jones
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Yes! He is so cute and deep! I would love to meet him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOzfujTwDIA NikkeMinxx

Marshall has a serious case of the gay face in this pic. It’s terrible. And why does it seem to be recylced? I swear I’ve seen that pic before..
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Daisy says:

@tainted I LUV Nasir Olu Dara Jones
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http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

His face annoys me! SR FAM

Witeboi

This is utter BS – that fool is not the King of HIP HOP a far reach indeed!

And yeah his first CD
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Marshall has a serious case of the gay face in this pic
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That’s becuz he is bi! Dre is Daddy!
JD

Um…I have to agree with Rolling Stone. That boy can RAP. Whenever he gets on a track with “US”, he always does the track dirty. He outshined Kanye, Drake, Lil Wayne on that Forever remix. That boy is talented and doesn’t have to have a clothing brand, tennis shoe line, throw a fit, or be married to an already successful artist to deliver. He get’s my vote and then Andre 3000 is right up underneath him.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

I know ODB is turning in his fuggin’ grave right now!
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

Rolling Stone been around for HOW LONG?? And NOW they wanna crown a “King of Hip Hop?”

YT people STILL ain’t changed. Just like Elvis was the “King of Rock Roll” when he said HIMSELF he wasn’t the greatest and was “influenced” (read: STOLE) from black musicians. I see how this chit going.

No hate at Em. He’s in the top ten talent wise as far as rappers. But he shoulnd’t even be allowed in the same room as:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)
Yardgirl

HEY FAYLA!! Miss you around her girlie!!! How is the job going?
Mamacita

HOw are Em’s lyrocs any different??

In Love the way you Lie didn’t he talk about tying someone to a bed and settign the house on fire killing them? SO arson is ok but you can’t talk about cars and chains?
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Mamacita says:

Who created Napster, Limewire, and all these other things to download FREE music?
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WHITE FOLK and s/o to them for creating these programs.
Eminem has a crazy flow but the BEST? Absolutely not. I am a hardcore Jay-Z fan and he just has a way with his words which is why I enjoy his music so much.
Daisy

I was waiting on somebody to say Em got Jay on his own song

@tainted add outkast/andre 3K/the roots/black star to the list for me
SamYell JacksEm

I like Eminem. His first two albums were in heavy rotation in my car. If you listen to him he does talk about being the best, money, etc. but it’s not his main topic, he’s mostly a horrorcore rapper. The reality is his cadences are crazy so people overlook when he doesn’t say anything in his verses. He started losing me when he went the fake angry yt guy route.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Who cares? Hip Hop is dead anyway…..Personally I believe that chitted on Wayne to give to M&M (a white boy)….Wayne has been on fiyah the last few years or so….and I’m not even remotely a Lil Wayne fan…but he’s on EVERYBODY and their mother’s chit….

Anywho, Good Morning Bishes!!! :wave:
mrsloveleigh

I love Em I really do but……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOzfujTwDIA NikkeMinxx

@Man, have you seen the Sports Guy’s article on this very topic? It’s in his archives
2know the ledge

he is only king far as this generation of so called rappers. he is lyrical nice but there have been others that can out do him word play wise. is he better than ye, jay and weezy yes. but that is rolling stones take on his record sells and so forth.

But here is my question who outside of the suburban kids and wanna be flossed out rappers really checkin for this that is called hip hop? true essence heads of hip hop aren’t checkin em and the others #IJS

good am and all that jazz SR folk
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)
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Any nigga whose name is FLORIDA is wack to me.

Yeezy is incredible, I just need some more work from him.
Nas is sick, just never was a big fan of his.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Drake emo ass.
Luda is another great story teller.
KDub

@Lakes. I am an old skool hip hopper. But I ain’t gonna lie Wayne is and always has been a contender for numma one. DJM. I been listening to him since he was a wee one and he done came a LONG way. Wayne has been on the scene AS AN ARTIST (I say that cause I know the Ye heads gonna come on and talk about his producing…we not tambout that right now) longer than anyone other than Jay. If I am not mistaken him and Em hit the charts the same year. I don’t feel like googling right now.

The dude done paid his dues too. (*Puts in “Sqad Up” mixtape series)
Redeemed777

…and you folks shouldnt be listening to any of that rap crap in the first place. How can you teach your children or anybody’s children anything, when you ( so-called adults ) still listen to worldly music??????
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

Daisy says:

I was waiting on somebody to say Em got Jay on his own song
@tainted add outkast/andre 3K/the roots/black star to the list for me
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How could I forget my ATL brother 3 Stacks..I grew up listening to him with my mommie. I just got on Black Star after seeing Dave Chappell block party I guess my 20 y/o self was too young to vibe with them when they first came out
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

I know ODB is turning in his fuggin’ grave right now
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And Pac and Biggie in heaven pissed the fukk off… smh!!
Mamacita

No hate at Em. He’s in the top ten talent wise as far as rappers. But he shoulnd’t even be allowed in the same room as:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)

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Iono bout Flo-Rida but I this list! I’d add Jay-Z too
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

@KDUB, yes when Wayne wants to rap HE CAN. Me and my dad were listening to 6 foot, 7 foot and I could never get why he said “real Gs move in silence like lasagna”… because the G in lasagna is silent. That was my blonde moment of the year!
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@NIKKE
“have you seen the Sports Guy’s article on this very topic? It’s in his archives”
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Are you referring to his article about a yt guy dominating rap and a black guy dominating golf? Chit was hilarious.

Trust me, I’m Bill Simmons BIGGEST fan. I usually visit his site right before I head here.
CFREE

Em, as the King of Hip Hop… that’s a stretch, he just “ok” in my book

Goodmorning ALL
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Redeemed777 says:

…and you folks shouldnt be listening to any of that rap crap in the first place. How can you teach your children or anybody’s children anything, when you ( so-called adults ) still listen to worldly music??????

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STHU.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

I love Em I really do but……
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What yall eating for lunch I didn’t bring mine today and I gotta run out need options
KDub

How can you teach your children or anybody’s children anything, when you ( so-called adults ) still listen to worldly music??????
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I am sorry. But we are like an episode of Making the Band at my house. We have hip hop 101 with lyrical recital and ERRYTHANG.

You should go and sign up for Professor Bun B’s class at Rice University Redeemed…”Religion and Hip Hop”

Goodbye.
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

Hop Hop heads know the Kings of HipHOp are
Public E (Chuck D), Kool Moe Dee, KRS 1, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane etc. on to the need breeds, Jayz, Lil Wayne, Jeezy, Kanye, Drake etc. We adopted M&M with the new breed and he is condisered much more marketable in this prejudice society yall know how it goes.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

And Pac and Biggie in heaven pissed the fukk off… smh!!
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Actually I think they are becuz look at what happened to rap after them
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@MAMACITA
“No hate at Em. He’s in the top ten talent wise as far as rappers. But he shoulnd’t even be allowed in the same room as:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)

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Iono bout Flo-Rida but I this list! I’d add Jay-Z too

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I was joking about Flo-rida. I’d prolly put T.I. or Rick Ross in the 6th spot.

Eminem slays Jay “Jiggaboo” Z.
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

Man, I just don’t care™ says:
1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)
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Only person that should be allowed on this list with Nas is “Ye…smh at you listing Wayne higher than Nas or even Drake
MzDimplez1123

@ Weezy. He’s a lyrical beast, despite his syrup habit.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

chibytex says:

Wayne has been on fiyah the last few years or so….and I’m not even remotely a Lil Wayne fan
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He use to be on fiyah and say some lyrically clever chit, now all he do is giggle @ hisself in songs! CAN YOU SAY ANNOYING?
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)
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These rappers have been replaced with strip club rappers
1) Gucci
2) Waka Flaka Flame (I hate even typing his name)
3)Travis Porter
4)Soulja Boy
5)Ace Hood (who ever he is)

And NOBODY rapping about chit but making it rain on hoes etc and other non important bull chit…

Personally the smoothest “rapper” out right now is Rick Ross…. He kinda go hard on his verses and that fat muthafukker got swag…I used to be a HUGE T.I. fan but his dumb ass cant stay outta jail, and then when he turned around and fell in love with the other white meat, he lost me all together…
candibfly

#BunB

that’s really all i have to say. i’m not really a rap fan

*sits back and listens*
http://twitter.com/_Tainted_Love Tainted_Love

Choco aka Hippie says:

And Pac and Biggie in heaven pissed the fukk off… smh!!
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Actually I think they are becuz look at what happened to rap after them
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Lol!!!
Daisy

WE DA BEST *dj kahled voice*

Drake is hit or miss with me
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

chibytex says:

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

I know ODB is turning in his fuggin’ grave right now
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And Pac and Biggie in heaven pissed the fukk off… smh!!
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Hell yeah! They are mean muggin’ the chit outta EM ratt now!
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@KDUB WAYNE IS A BEAST
@MAN FLO THO?? WERE JAY?? SNOOP DOGG <<REPING CALI!!
KDub

@Coco…My blonde Wayne moment was “A Mili”

“Boy I got so many b itches like I’m Mike Lowry”

I was like WHO in de FUKK is MIKE? Then “Bad Boys” came on and I was like STOOOP. Genius I say.
Daisy

@chi ITS THE KING HOMIE I am still a TI groupie I mean fan
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Sugar Hill Gang and Kurtis Blow Nah RUN and Tell that
Ididntreallymeanit

Em is the king in rolling stones eyes that’s about it.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

The dude done paid his dues too. (*Puts in “Sqad Up” mixtape series)
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THIS was Wayne at his best, IMO…he was still hungry and trying to take Jay’s spot back then!!!
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

fell in love with the other white meat, he lost me all together…

^^^^ T.I DID GO HARD TOO… I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT HIS SKINTY AZZ!
MzDimplez1123

*raises hand* I like Khaled’s beats

TI does his thang regardless of his bad personal choices.
KDub

Em is the king in rolling stones eyes that’s about it.
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In BET eyes too…won’t he voted by US to be the bestest?
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

KDub says:

@Coco…My blonde Wayne moment was “A Mili”

“Boy I got so many b itches like I’m Mike Lowry”

I was like WHO in de FUKK is MIKE? Then “Bad Boys” came on and I was like STOOOP. Genius I say.

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YES! That one threw me for a loop too. You really have to listen to his high ass sometimes.

Whoever mentioned Andre 3000, he is another GREAT one.
candibfly

did y’all see Amil on twitter tellin folks she’s back and folk chicks like nicki to pay homage to her?

i thought it was hilarious. she really thinks she’s the queen of rap
Daisy

@kdubb I like the goon to a goblin line in A Milli the beat was fiyah too
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@TAINTED
“Man, I just don’t care™ says:
1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)
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Only person that should be allowed on this list with Nas is “Ye…smh at you listing Wayne higher than Nas or even Drake”
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Hey, I’m a Nas fanatic and I really wasn’t a big Wayne fan until the last couple of years. In fact, I couldn’t stand him cause he would always get on the mic and start slurring and chit.

But I can’t deny the last 2+ years the man has been on abosolute fire. His chit been second only to Kanye.

I admit Drake is on there because I’m looking at “potential.” So far he has been creative lyrically. Not just rapping about how much money he got.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@KDUB IRRRRK!! STOP! THAT MAN IS SICK!!!
Bigbadwolf

Rolling Stone was watching the numbers. Editors of the iconic music magazine used album sales and chart figures dating back 2 years in deciding who should take the crown.
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Rolling Stone used album sales and chart figures, and like GAGirl said, “most” of us don’t buy the real CD’s, nobody has a tally on the bootlegs…unless they want to sue you for lost wages…But I know ya’ll remember the best rapper thing they did no BET, Who got the crown EMINEM and that room had producers, rappers, and other people in the industry, and there were on 2 yt folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvOeA7rqxnM DMisses

Of course they would, it’s The Rolling Stone not Vibe, The Source or XXL. Their opinions don’t matter to me, the kings (that title is too big for only one imo) of hip hop are Jay Z, Nas, and Kanye West. Em’s last album was garbage, every album from every artist I named was fire, they never disappointed their fans, not one time.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

@Candi
Bun B is a muthafukking LEGEND!!! He goes hard on EVERTHING…he done been in the game over 20 years and still cant nobody fukk with him…and Drake wanna be Bun B so bad its riduclous…
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

GET IT LEAVE THEM DEAD IN THE LIVING ROOM..
candibfly

shiiiid i’m bout to sign up for bun b’s class at Rice. how got me on the tuition doe? that school ain’t cheap.
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

“A Milli” and “Steady Mobbin” are my two favorite Wayne joints thus far.
candibfly

i did used to cut a fuggin rug in the club (when i used to club) to that a milli joint u hear me?! *swings from a chandelier*
candibfly

if anyone wants to laugh her twitter name is Amil_DOE
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

TI does his thang regardless of his bad personal choices
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I know, I’m still a lil salty about his marriage and all…that’s why I’m always riding Tiny so hard….I just couldnt believe he actual wifed her…

Oh and I like Drake….he aint trying to be all hardcore…he loves the ladies and he aint afraid to express it…gotta respect that!!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

NAS, Dead Prez, Imoortal Technique, The Roots, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, BUN B, Common, Andre 3000, Ye (cuz that nigga’s flow be sick) – NOW THOSE ARE RAPPERS THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. Many of them may not be mainstream, BUT THOSE ARE THE ENLIGHTENED RAPPERS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka JuicyFruit

I miss yall
TaBew
Dimpz
Yardgyal
BBW
LA
Lakes
Chi
Choco
KDub
Daisy
Candi
and ALL yall i didn’t name
#drive-bypostingsuxBALLS
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@TAT I SEE
candibfly

fayla

tell them to stop working u. it ain’t right
vjackson

Well if RS used sales and charts figures..then he would be the king. I heard several years ago, Eminem was the biggest selling and highest charting rapper. You have to remember, Eminem is popular with white kids…who BUY CD’s..not bootleg and illegally download them. Plus, he may rap a little about materialism, badassism, etc, those are not the main theme of his muscic, and although he comes from a rough part of Detroit, white parents don’t see him as threatening or dangerous. And if you’ve seen him in interviews, he can talk in complete, grammatically correct sentences. So he’s not bringing illiteracy and “hood” ideals to white children. That said, if you’re over 30 and still listening to mainstream “rap” these days, you have to feel a little foolish. The chit is so childish it’s embarrasing. We don’t make “rap” anymore, the same way we don’t make R&B anymore…now white people from Europe are making better R&B music than American Blacks . Go figure…
mrsloveleigh

I like storytellers. Devin the Dude, Jay Z. Kanye,Bub B and Wayne are lyricist to me and I like that also.
SamYell JacksEm

Wayne’s Carter 2 was him at his best imo. I think if the original Carter wouldn’t have leaked he would’ve smashed shyt. He’s been all down hill from there though.
mrsloveleigh

Bun B
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@FAY
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Fayla Hey Lady!!!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

I miss you to Fay Fay (my REAL bay bay)

@ Lakes…..I’z trying to put them away! LOL
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

AMIL?!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!??!!?!?!?!??!!

She was trash and looked like a sewer rat with her annoying ass voice. She needs to go back to bagging items at K-Mart.
SamYell JacksEm

@Candi
I used to can Amil Aman…
candibfly

do what the fvck u wanna do, say what the fvck u wanna say
MzDimplez1123

Uh, Tunechi in this b1tch, Fresh watch me do it
B1tches know I ball, I go HAM, Cam Newton
Shorty on the pill, get this hoe some fluids
And if that b1tch bad, I put her on my to-do-list
See I step up in this b1tch like a gamma, get ya camera’s
Money on the table, b1tch respect my table manners
Young Money the shyt, did you get the memorandum?
And these other niggas think they fly, I’m finna land ‘em
Haha, yeah, what you doing? I’m throwing money
They take too long with the ones, fu(k it I’ll start throwing hundreds
Girl them niggas ain’t spending shyt, they tippin’ on a budget
Man they pockets getting skinny, what that is? Jennifer Hudson, haa
Order a bottle and I drink it ’til its hollow
Man, my Coupe is a 2 seater so you b1tches gotta follow
Now buss it open backwards like the doors on a Rolls
I got money in my pocket, got them hoes on poles
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Like I said, Wayne is dope, but now, all that nigga do is laugh @ himself & something he said! IRRITATING!
candibfly

@coco someone on there said ‘don’t u work at target?’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

I personally have gotten into the new rappers I’m still stuck on old skool.

1. Heavy D
2. 2 Pac
3. Biggie
4. Big Daddy Kane
5.Eminem
6. Dj Quick
7. Ice Cube
8. Snoop

These are in no particular order. I Love Eminem he has talent and can flow I wonder if he was black would people give him more credit. I think he can flow and I could care less what color he is
Mamacita

@Bun B That nig say “Houston Texas” and “What you know about them Texas boys” bout 30 time in every song.

I hate to say it but Wayne always gets my attention. That little retard is creative. I’ll give him that.

Folks sleep on Luda tho. He’s hilarious! “Who let these hoes in my room, Let theeeeeese hoes”
witeboi52

No hate at Em. He’s in the top ten talent wise as far as rappers. But he shoulnd’t even be allowed in the same room as:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)

Drake???? Flo-Rida?????

Gotti and Wayne said it best

Men Lie.. Women Lie… BUT NUMBERS DONT LIE!!!!
candibfly

@awesome *brushes a lint roller over ur crushed velvet vest* she does have a struggle face
MzDimplez1123

Hey Fay!

As for Amil…I saw the Jigga What Jigga Who video the other day. First time I thought about her in YEARS!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Devin the Dude!!!
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Me and my girls used to smoke EVERYDAY listening to him…. I remember going to the club to see him and this fool smoked like 4 on the stage during his ENTIRE set…..and me and my girls were the only females in the club that knew EVERY word he was rapping…Dudes was like damn ya’ll real hardcore fan, huh!!!
Nhere

Just because someone says it is does not mean it is.

Although, I have been hearing about some white females trying to make it in the biz. Perhaps this article is to give them some leverage and validation .
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Mamacita says:

That little retard is creative.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Sorry witeboi, numbers lie all the cot dayum time! If they didn’t, Bush would’ve never taken office the 2nd term! BESIDES, men & women (who lie) are the ones who enter the numbers!

#FACT!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Fayla :hugs:
candibfly

heavy d! y’all know he light on his feet. now i liked him back in the day. have y’all heard a recent song from him? it kinda had a caribbean flair to it. i’m not sure what i think of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Sugar Hill Gang and Kurtis Blow
Krissy

Good morning everyone!!!……. what about Talib kweli and Mos def, Granted they don’t sell like most rappers out today but they are some strong lyricist…
Bigbadwolf

FAY!!!!

Sup Errbody
witeboi52

also the thing is you dont hear Em saying he is the best. You hear wayne, Jay-z and Wayne say that chit. But Vibe and RS said he was that is a black magazine and a white magazine. Face it he is the highest selling Rap Artist to date yeah the white’s buy it but is that his fault??? He is top 5 all time but remeber he has sold the most records ever in the history of Rap!!

he has sold a total of more then 83,000,000. And that’s from only 8 albums
SamYell JacksEm

Every time a nigga talk bout boxing a yt boy gotta pull Rocky Marciano outta his ass…..
Krissy

oh an can’t forget my baby Common :Hearts: him
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Men Lie.. Women Lie… BUT NUMBERS DONT LIE!!!!
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Well if numbers don’t lie but men and women do arent they normally the ones counting the numbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Yes heavy D was the bomb.com he didn’t use expletives either in his flow and I still jam his music to this day
KDub

REAL TALK Sqad Up was the first music I ever stole in my LIFE. Me and my cousin were in ‘Bama and had rode out. Get away from the old folks, etc…That dude got out the car I KINDLY took it with me. Alllll the CD’s to the series. I was like I am not leaving this car without these! To this DAY…YEARS later that cat still asks me did I take his Sqad Up CD’s. IDK whatchu tambout fam

I been payin attention to Wayne every since!
Nhere

candibfly

I heard that song too, but it didn’t get airplay. It was kinda hot, Heavy has some island roots.
http://twitter.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

the list is flawed when you have to account sales em will always be on top. he is accepted by all races in a way no other rapper is and it translates into sales. this list should read like who is the most popular instead of king of hiphop. i also have a problem with drake being at the top of any list. he has one album out he hasnt put in enough work to even be in the top 5.
witeboi52

Sorry witeboi, numbers lie all the cot dayum time! If they didn’t, Bush would’ve never taken office the 2nd term! BESIDES, men & women (who lie) are the ones who enter the numbers!

#FACT!

Fuk Bush anyway!!! This got alot of folks salty today…..LMAO!!! How can me/women lie about the numbers computer tally by themselves, miss me with that…just give props were they are due and be over it. He is not the best but Top 5 he is point blank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

People don’t have to agree with RS but if there going merely by numbers the E is the truth
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

candibfly says:

do what the fvck u wanna do, say what the fvck u wanna say
_________________________________________________

No one will suffer, but you, so do what the fuk you wanna do…

One of my favorite songs of all time!!
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@WITEBOI
“No hate at Em. He’s in the top ten talent wise as far as rappers. But he shoulnd’t even be allowed in the same room as:

1. Kanye
2. Wayne
3. Nas
4. Drake
5. Luda
6. Flo-rida (on a good day for him)
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Drake???? Flo-Rida?????

Gotti and Wayne said it best

Men Lie.. Women Lie… BUT NUMBERS DONT LIE!!!!
____________________________________________________________________________

¿¿¿ ???
¿¿¿ DA FLUCK ???

Ima tell you like this bruh:
“There are lies, damned lies, and STATISTICS.”

I can take the same set of numbers and have Eminem as the WORST selling artist mayne. And yeah, DRAKE.

Like I said, Em is “ok.”
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Ain’t a hood nigga but a nigga from the ho-od
See mama stayed on me so I turned out pretty go-od
But if you wanna try it sucker now then we can do it
Ha ha sleep, Tylenol PM if I pull it
Sh-sh-sheep, count ’em for the rest of ya life
Yeah yeah ya partner got away but now he vegetable-like
So so I sent his mom and dad a whole case of V8
He can die, any second, how much long it’s ‘gon take?!

Andre had the BEST verse on this remix.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Krissy says:

Good morning everyone!!!……. what about Talib kweli and Mos def, Granted they don’t sell like most rappers out today but they are some strong lyricist…
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We on the same page, Krissy. See comment # 107
witeboi52

Well if numbers don’t lie but men and women do arent they normally the ones counting the numbers

come in with another reason he has sold 83 mill……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Hey East.. I agree Drake shouldn’t even be mentioned.
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

Ice Cube was beast before he sold out.
<<<smh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

@east your right know other rapper has crossed over like Em
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

witeboi52 says:

Sorry witeboi, numbers lie all the cot dayum time! If they didn’t, Bush would’ve never taken office the 2nd term! BESIDES, men & women (who lie) are the ones who enter the numbers!

#FACT!

Fuk Bush anyway!!! This got alot of folks salty today…..LMAO!!! How can me/women lie about the numbers computer tally by themselves, miss me with that…just give props were they are due and be over it. He is not the best but Top 5 he is point blank.
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Sorry, dude. He’s not King! That’s the dispute, not if he ranks in the Top 5!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Sorry witeboi, numbers lie all the cot dayum time! If they didn’t, Bush would’ve never taken office the 2nd term! BESIDES, men & women (who lie) are the ones who enter the numbers!
_____________________________________________
TABANACLE!!!! CHUCCH!!!!
witeboi52

And yeah, DRAKE

Drake says it all about your taste in music…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

@Man Ice cube was a beast lyrically OMG.. Steady mobbing. No vaseline etc
KDub

the beat was fiyah too
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That beat on A Milli was a sample from a really old azz remix from Tribe… but it still was HAWT.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

<——– Speaking to witeboi – I'mma miss you w/this???? MEN & WOMEN ENTER IN THE NUMBERS THAT THE COMPUTER TALLY! Computers are good, even great, but someone has to do the manual before computers can do the technology! That's 101!
witeboi52

Sorry, dude. He’s not King! That’s the dispute, not if he ranks in the Top 5!

read thre article it is for the last 2 years not all time, but his numbers are the most of all time PERIOD…no denying that sweetheart!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

chibytex says:

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

Sorry witeboi, numbers lie all the cot dayum time! If they didn’t, Bush would’ve never taken office the 2nd term! BESIDES, men & women (who lie) are the ones who enter the numbers!
_____________________________________________
TABANACLE!!!! CHUCCH!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Getting my shout on because the chuuch organ has begun!
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@WITEBOI
“And yeah, DRAKE”
______________________________________________________________________________

“Drake says it all about your taste in music…”
__________________________________________________________________________

This ^^ from someone that believes Eminem is in the top five in anything.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

<————— is #1 on the list of ppl witeboi is to NEVER call sweetheart again! AND BESIDES, MEN & WOMEN WHO LIE (your words, not mine) ARE THE ONES WHO WRITE THE ARTICLE, SWEETHEART!
witeboi52

Attention:::: We are talking about the past 2 years in which the article clearly states. Em is top 5 all time and again will ALWAYS be #1 in sales.
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@SNOOTY
“Ice cube was a beast lyrically OMG.. Steady mobbing. No vaseline etc”
_____________________________________________________________________________

…then he sold out…
candibfly

oh yeah now i liked ice cube before he did all those are we there yet movies
Nhere

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

Ice Cube was beast before he sold out.
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I was hoping no one would bring that up. “Stay True to da Game” to > “You can do it put ya back into it”
KDub

Ice Cube was beast before he sold out.
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“It Was A Good Day” is a classic.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

My Top 5 out RIGHT now

Kanye
Rick Ross
Wayne
Drake
Jay-z

Of ALL Time
Pac
Nas
Biggie
Jay-Z
Kanye
Krissy

@tatted just seen it we definitely on the same page. And let’s not forget scarface one of the best from the south…… And consequence
Cold ass lyricist!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

I wouldn’t say he sold out he just got out the game and has a new vision for his family and kids.

Ice Cube and his lyrics spared know one or know expense. He was walking a dangerous line. He old stuff is still classic and always will be
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

“It Was A Good Day” is a classic.
________________________________
Everytime I hear it I wanna spark a fat and sit on the porch or some chit!!!
witeboi52

Love when the white boy is mentioned in Hip-Hop!! LMAO!!!!! Brings Haters out the woodwork!!! Good Job Auntie!!! for the Record IMO Tupac will and always be the GOAT!!
MzDimplez1123

<<<<<<<<<still has ALL Cube's old music. How'd he go from being Straight Outta Compton to living in Bow Wow's basement? *Lottery Ticket*
Bigbadwolf

Ice Cube was beast before he sold out.
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Ice Cube didn’t sell out. He did what every other person does. Just tries to make. When rap made it’s transition from Hardcore to Mainstream, he backed away,or was turned away whatevers clever, but he chose to act and make movies instead of doing the Stanky Leg. Look at LL Cool J, Ice T, TI, Luda, Common, Method Man, Redd Man,and many other rapper turned actors. IJS
Mother Jefferson

Em lookin like Barry Manilow, I cant
Yardgirl

candibfly says:

heavy d! y’all know he light on his feet. now i liked him back in the day. have y’all heard a recent song from him? it kinda had a caribbean flair to it. i’m not sure what i think of it.

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Heavy D!! Not so heavy now but still got it, plus he dabbles in acting and is pretty good. He goes back and forth with his style, but I love him in his Jamaican roots

“Now that we found love what are we gonna do with it”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

You guys will leave my cube alone. LOL. Cant deny him as a rapper though. All these young folks don’t know anything about him and NWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOzfujTwDIA NikkeMinxx

Here’s a question though.. Why is Scarface never mentioned in these arguments?
screwball69

“While others are watching the throne, Rolling Stone was watching the numbers.”
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He does outsell and WILL continue to outsell the likes of Jay-Z, Kanye, and Lil Wayne, amongst others. Eminem is a beast of the mic and he has the record sales to prove it. This is that same sh(i)t I was talking about between Britney and Beyonce. Beyonce might be a better entertainer and all but when it comes to those record sales, Beyonce too has to step to the side because Britney Spears kills the competition.

On another note, I do not and will not ever support any of Eminem’s endeavors. I give credit where credit is due, he’s a talented one but all the bull that hes started over the years did it for me a long time ago.
KDub

And let’s not forget scarface one of the best from the south
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I would never forget about Unkka ‘Face

Loves me some Brad.

Toldchall I was country with my music. Word.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

I still have all of Cubes music and will keep it until the day I expire.

“It was a good” is such a classic
Ty

I am so surprised that you all listing Wayne and Jay as lyricist Wayne has the most water down flow ever. He is Pop Rap (see Dimpz post with lyrics). Jay has repeated the same shit for the last decade. He just switched the tracks up.

True Lyricist:
Pac
Bigg
Nas
Common
Kweli
Black Thought (The Roots)
Cube
Scarface

Someone mentioned story telling. That category hasn’t been touched since Slick Rick left the throne.

These artist will shyt on Wayne and Jay. No popularity contest, hoes, or beats/tracks. Just a mic and a tight azz flow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Team Heavy D
candibfly

oh snap scarface! :wave: <—- Texas flag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

@Ty.. The rappers you listed can’t be touched by Wayne or Drake really
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Scarface was the business too he scared me LOL
Krissy

@Kdub Unkka Face is the shit!
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@SNOOTY
“I wouldn’t say he sold out he just got out the game and has a new vision for his family and kids.

Ice Cube and his lyrics spared know one or know expense. He was walking a dangerous line. He old stuff is still classic and always will be”
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Yeah, back in the day Cube was “dat nigga.” I mean, even in movies he went from Doughboy in “Boyz in the Hood” to “Are There Yet?” WTF?

You can still hustle and be true but hey, maybe that’s just my perspective on it. If he can live with himself than who am I to tell him different?
Lady_L

NaijaGal says:

Love how when white people do it they get all kinds of accolades but whatever
screwball69

SnootyPooty says:

I wouldn’t say he sold out he just got out the game and has a new vision for his family and kids.
Ice Cube and his lyrics spared know one or know expense. He was walking a dangerous line. He old stuff is still classic and always will be
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People feel that someone has to stay the same from the beginning to the end. Damn, don’t discredit the theory of evolution. He’s in a different place now from where he was in 1992. I like artist that can continually reinvent themselves all the while showing glimpse of the past.
SamYell JacksEm

Love when the white boy is mentioned in Hip-Hop!! LMAO!!!!! Brings Haters out the woodwork!!!
____________________
Brought you out of lurking too, which I think proves what everybody is saying.
MzDimplez1123

Mr. Brad Jordan

@ Screwball69…I’ve already done that Bey vs Brit comparison and the thing with that is, Brit has taken a FEW breaks and is still on top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Imitation is the best form of flatter when it comes to these new rappers they all have borrowed or tried to emulate rappers of the past nothing is new or original when it comes to them.
2know the ledge

True Lyricist:
Pac
Bigg
Nas
Common
Kweli
Black Thought (The Roots)
Cube
Scarface

Someone mentioned story telling. That category hasn’t been touched since Slick Rick left the throne.

These artist will shyt on Wayne and Jay. No popularity contest, hoes, or beats/tracks. Just a mic and a tight azz flow!
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@TY

I think you giving credit to these other rappers simply because you like their material more than they creativity used to discuss their material.

I think Biggie was lyrically more creative than Pac. He used analogies and different uses of words and chit like that more often than Pac but Pac had a better flow and usually rapped about deeper chit.

Kinda similar with Wayne. He is definitely creative and has a good flow. He just doesn’t rap about “deep” chit. But I think he COULD if he was motivated to.
Bigbadwolf

People feel that someone has to stay the same from the beginning to the end. Damn, don’t discredit the theory of evolution. He’s in a different place now from where he was in 1992.
___________________________
Like Fab says” If u knew better u’d do better.” Jay’s was rapping when Pac
Bigg
Nas
Common
Kweli
Black Thought (The Roots)
Cube
Scarface
were rapping. No body still raps but him. It is time to retire the mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvOeA7rqxnM DMisses

chibytex says:

candibfly says:

do what the fvck u wanna do, say what the fvck u wanna say
_________________________________________________

No one will suffer, but you, so do what the fuk you wanna do…

One of my favorite songs of all time!
__________________________________________________________

Ayeee say what u want ho ya grown, u make decisions o n ya own
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

@Man. I just feel he has matured if he was still 40 something and rapping people would be saying he needs to go sit down some where and enjoy is wife and kids. I think he did the smart thing by moving in a different direction it shows growth and maturity on his part IMO. Family first
Cupcake

I’m coming out of lurk mode for this one… and this is going to be a book… LOL

As a hardcore EMINEM supporter I am happy that he is getting the props that are due to him. I will say this, I remember when EMINEM first hit the mainstream back in ’99ish… he was all over the place and his tunes were quite catchy. I have to admit that I really thought that he was a fad passing through with the bleach blonde look and all. I didn’t really listen to his unedited music, just what was on the airwaves. When I did hear a few of his explicit songs I just thought he was so angry. When he came out with the song “The Way I Am” I began to understand him a little more… and my support of him grew.
When “8 Mile” hit the wide screen sheeeiitt I saw that flick like 3 times back to back! Although the story was loosely based off of his life and some of what he went through I realized that #1 I respected the dedication he has for his craft and #2 I had a mad crush on him! Throughout the years he was always in the spotlight for negative stuff that was going on in his life, and his struggles were out there for the entire world to see. He continued to put out music and was then gone from the scene for a moment as he dealt with the demons in his life.
Fast forward to ’09/’10 when “I’m Not Afraid” hit the airwaves… that was my song!! I was never one that really bought a lot of rap albums, but this song was different than any other I heard. It was very personal and it was more than a song, it was a testimony! I remember when EMINEM performed the song on the BET award show I believe.. the response that he received from his peers and the crowd was amazing.. he received a standing ovation! Honestly speaking, when he was performing that song I listened to the depth of his words and I was overwhelmed with emotion. To think that this man almost met his demise because of personal demons within himself and he was able to turn it all around after being given a SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE brought tears to my eyes. For the first time ever, I went out and purchased a EMINEM CD.. “Recovery”.
Since listening to “Recovery” I began to understand this man’s fight for his LIFE. Through all that this man has been through one thing that cannot be disputed is his TALENT. After I bought “Recovery” I went and purchased ALL of his other CD’s and what I heard blew my f’in mind!! This man is a lyrical genius with a brilliant mind!! His cadence and triple time flow, syllables and enunciation is out of this world! As I began to listen to all of his cd’s I actually listed to his words and could somehow see where all of his anger came from. I believe that experiencing hurtful things in my life made me relate to him more. I’ve been drug free my entire life and will continue to do so.. however addictions aren’t only in drug/alcohol form. Addictions can relate to relationships, spending habits and so forth. So even though my addictions and struggles weren’t the same as his, they were just as disruptive in my life.
A lot of people look at these celebrities and think that their lives are perfect, but they hurt like we do if not more. They may put up a facade for the public, but can be a complete mess behind closed doors. We all knew that the man we knew as EMINEM struggled with his drug addiction, had a disruptive life and so forth… but look at where he is now. I think that people are finally seeing him as more than EMINEM but as Marshall Mathers III… get past the rhymes and the beat .. he is a responsible father to his biological daughter, his adoptive daughter (Kim’s niece) and a father figure to Kim’s other daughter as well as guardian to his brother. He did not let naysayers get to him, he did not give in to reverse racism, he did not give in to the demons in his life, he recognized that he was given a 2nd chance and no longer involves himself with BS.. his maturity level is where it’s supposed to be. This man deserves all of the accolades that he has received and will receive. It doesn’t matter that he will be 39 years of age this year.. talent has no age limit on it and he is at the top of his game!
And no, this isn’t a good picture of him.. the photographer/editor should be shot for that!

#Team EMINEM #Team Marshall Mathers III #Team Shady ALL DAY / ER’ DAY!!!
Nhere

witeboi52

No one is hating on Em. Is that what you are hoping for? We see that data, facts and figures were used as tools to justify the conclusion. Even in that no one is disputing his flow or talent.

This art form dates back a bit further than 2 years as well as the span of his career. If this decision was made all inclusive of other factors outside of sales, what would the conclusion be? There are so many talented hip hop artist (dating back) I would have trouble narrowing it down.

Somebody just brought up Scarface, hotdam I need about a week.
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@TY
“Jay has repeated the same **** for the last decade. He just switched the tracks up.”
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!!!
I ain’t EVA liked that nigga. I remember when he first came out tryin to rap fast like he was a Nu Yawk “Bone Thugs’ member. Then he switched up the flow. SMH.

Nigga is straight garbage. His flow is weak and forgettable and his lyrics are “rinse/wash/repeat.” All he does is say he is from Nu Yawk and that’s good enough for most.
SamYell JacksEm

Nas
Common
Kweli
Black Thought (The Roots)
Cube
Scarface
were rapping. No body still raps but him. It is time to retire the mic.
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All these dudes still rap
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

@ Witeboi standing behind his EMMIMAN :coffee
http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

@TY

I think Biggie was lyrically more creative than Pac. He used analogies and different uses of words and chit like that more often than Pac but Pac had a better flow and usually rapped about deeper chit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVSiv8-ugu0 Long Time Lurker

No hate, but I have never been a fan of Em. And this is from when he first came out. He’s lyrically good, but great . I think most of his appeal came from, he was a white boy w/decent lyrics that didn’t consist of Ice Ice Baby or Jump Around (see V. Ice and House of Pain). And he was cosigned by Dre, the undisputed greatest hip hop producer of our time ,IMO. But for me, Em started he same way 50 started, picking beefs to get his name out there. (notice he never picked a beef w/someone who could slaughter his a$$ on a track) He went for the Britney’s and the Justins and such. Plus, for me until recently his rap cadence was always the same, whiny and annoying as fvck. He sounded like he was always suffering from post-nasal drip.

Again, just my opinion.
KDub

I’m soprry @Ty but we gonna hafta disagree on Wayne and his lyrical content. Folks keep saying the man is dumb/uneducated etc but in some of his lyrics he comes across as highly intelligent IMO.

Jay-Z got early onset cause I agree….he been saying the same ish since 1999 and he forgot he done said it. Still tambout drugs he sold back in 1979….
candibfly

Still tambout drugs he sold back in 1979….
Bigbadwolf

All these dudes still rap
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No schedules for concerts any of these people, nor relevant albums out, Please name a new song from each one off the top of your head
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@SNOOTY

Hey, I feel ya on Cube. Really, I do. But I don’t see how doing beer commercials marketed towards black is him “maturing.”

He could have just been a producer and been an influence for GOOD in the industry he helped establish. But I guess shuckin and jivin was better for his family so he did what he felt best.

Most sell outs sleep well at night and I guess Cube is no different.
Creamychic

Redeemed777 says:

Sandra, understand that eminem doesnt stand a chance. His fate is destruction.

jayz & kanye still have a chance, if only they would turn from their extreme wickedness.

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Sir if Jay and Kanye can be saved so can the Em, but if we must get biblical with it, They all on they way to hell, with heaven in they view, Just saying, one is no better than the other… Keep hope alive tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvOeA7rqxnM DMisses

Nobody is going to sit there and read thru all that chit Cupcake dang, some of you are really taking this too serious when this is merely a debate. At the end of the day we will all still have our own opinions regardless of what the numbers or RS says. Stop trying to influence those that don’t consider Em the king otherwise. I will never see him in that light, and nothing any of you say will change that.
http://twitter.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

eminem does speak about him being the best and anybody who doesnt think so doesnt listen to his music. he is definitely one of the best even if he was black i think his recognition among the hiphop community would be just about the same but the fact that he is white motivates those to identify with him because he is good and looks just like them. im curious to why nicki wouldnt be above drake when her cd sold more and she actually been on more major tours than drake which i dont agree with neither being in the top 5 im curious as to how he came out more popular in this list. but far as number 1s go its jay. out of the elites along the lines or biggie pac and so forth he is the only one who got to fulfil their career. nobody in rap had a run like him ever. and not to mention your favorite rappers favorite rapper. but shout out to scarface somebody mentioned i would love for him to be able to do the album of him , jay and beanie segal that he talked about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

@Man.. I think he could have assisted in producing in the industry so that the bubble gum rappers wouldn’t have a chance.
laterthannever

Hmmm
Cupcake

@ Redeemed … do you realize that you have no heaven or hell to put anyone in?? Do you realize that no man knows the fate of another man’s soul other than GOD???

Anyone that is still breathing has a chance here on this earth because they can still ask for forgiveness .. not from you.. but from our Heavenly Father!!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

nd he was cosigned by Dre, the undisputed greatest hip hop producer of our time ,IMO. But for me, Em started he same way 50 started, picking beefs to get his name out there. (notice he never picked a beef w/someone who could slaughter his a$$ on a track) He went for the Britney’s and the Justins and such. Plus, for me until recently his rap cadence was always the same, whiny and annoying as fvck. He sounded like he was always suffering from post-nasal drip.
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Only 3 songs I like by M&M are Stan, Cleaning Out My Closet (that chit used to be anthem, cause I used to have serious beef with my mama) and the song where he chitted on Jay on his own song… Other than that M&M is just a big ass gimmick. He’s a white rapper who can put words together clever….nothing impressive really!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVSiv8-ugu0 Long Time Lurker

Also, not a huge Wayne fan, cause again, HIS voice can be annoying as fvck too. BUT, you gotta give that lil gremlin his props, when it comes to metaphors and analogies, he killing ’em and has been for a minute. He will say some shyt that make you rewind it a couple of times. I have had quite a few “oh shit” moments listening to Wayne.
screwball69

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

@TY
“Jay has repeated the same **** for the last decade. He just switched the tracks up.”
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!!!
I ain’t EVA liked that nigga. I remember when he first came out tryin to rap fast like he was a Nu Yawk “Bone Thugs’ member. Then he switched up the flow. SMH.
Nigga is straight garbage. His flow is weak and forgettable and his lyrics are “rinse/wash/repeat.” All he does is say he is from Nu Yawk and that’s good enough for most.
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Man,

We’ve been through this a hundred times on this site. He picked the hottest urban female smoking to ensure that he will not fade anytime soon. He’s a businessman if nothing else, and he has the money to prove it. It’s all about Jay AND Beyonce. Believe man that if he didn’t have his wife, he’d be out the door too. I have more Celebrity couples that fit into this standard too, but hammercy I ain’t going there today!
Ty

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

@TY

I think you giving credit to these other rappers simply because you like their material more than they creativity used to discuss their material.

I think Biggie was lyrically more creative than Pac. He used analogies and different uses of words and chit like that more often than Pac but Pac had a better flow and usually rapped about deeper chit.

Kinda similar with Wayne. He is definitely creative and has a good flow. He just doesn’t rap about “deep” chit. But I think he COULD if he was motivated to.
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Nope I like intelligence, metaphors, similies, passion, connection, approach, projection, swag/style, delivery, etc. I mentioned this in the Watch The Throne thread. I would not pay that kind of money for a Pop Rap concert but a Throwback Concert, I am there with bells on. Hell I even phuck with Eight Ball & MJG that shyt was classic back in the day. I still know every song on Coming Out Hard. Tuchenie my azz

Bigg was more creative but like u said Pac had a better flow but they are still untouchable today. I see The Roots at least once a year. They show out live and Black Thought is a beast.
Nhere

KDub says

Jay-Z got early onset cause I agree….he been saying the same ish since 1999 and he forgot he done said it. Still tambout drugs he sold back in 1979….
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If I didn’t take away anything from the Biggie movie, even the character revealed that he said basically everything he needed to say what else could he talk about. Do rappers enlist ghostwriters after a certain point?
Bigbadwolf

Now a days everybody wanna talk like they got something to say, but nothing comes out, when they move they lips, it’s just a bunch of jibberish and mufukas act like they forgot about Dre’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

@Bigbadwolf.. hahahaha LOVE IT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVSiv8-ugu0 Long Time Lurker

But if we are going simply numbers, Em as King? Maybe. But hip hop has been so watered down lately, that I don’t know who would really wear the ‘crown’ now.

I damn near put my son on punishment cause that lil nig gon tell me that Lil B and Odd Future were killing everbody in the game right now. That’s the same as saying Yung Berg is the greatest lyricist ever.
Ty

SamYell JacksEm says:

Nas
Common
Kweli
Black Thought (The Roots)
Cube
Scarface
were rapping. No body still raps but him. It is time to retire the mic.
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All these dudes still rap

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Yep and will still crush any current rapper with some shyt that came out over 10 years ago.

Lets see Any (pick any song) Pac, Big, Nas, Common and compare it to anything that Wayne or Jay released

Even Jay hasn’t forgotten about Ether
SamYell JacksEm

@BBW
Ok. I’ll give you that they aren’t mainstream anymore, a couple of them never were but they all still work and produce. Just because they don’t have a song with ymcmb on the radio right now doesn’t mean they quit.
http://weeseeyou.com CG

SamYell JacksEm says:

Every time a nigga talk bout boxing a yt boy gotta pull Rocky Marciano outta his ass…..

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CFREE

NikkeMinxx says:

Here’s a question though.. Why is Scarface never mentioned in these arguments?

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#THIS My list in no particular order…

Jada Kiss
Kanye
Wayne
Bun
Mos Def
Luda
Andre 3000
T.I
Scarface
MJG
NAS
Ty

@ Kdub…I guess but when I hear shyt like this. Everything else goes out the window.

Uh, Tunechi in this b1tch, Fresh watch me do it
B1tches know I ball, I go HAM, Cam Newton
Shorty on the pill, get this hoe some fluids
And if that b1tch bad, I put her on my to-do-list
See I step up in this b1tch like a gamma, get ya camera’s
Money on the table, b1tch respect my table manners
Young Money the shyt, did you get the memorandum?
And these other niggas think they fly, I’m finna land ‘em
Haha, yeah, what you doing? I’m throwing money
They take too long with the ones, fu(k it I’ll start throwing hundreds
Girl them niggas ain’t spending shyt, they tippin’ on a budget
Man they pockets getting skinny, what that is? Jennifer Hudson, haa
Order a bottle and I drink it ’til its hollow
Man, my Coupe is a 2 seater so you b1tches gotta follow
Now buss it open backwards like the doors on a Rolls
I got money in my pocket, got them hoes on poles
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

Nobody is going to sit there and read thru all that chit Cupcake dang, some of you are really taking this too serious when this is merely a debate.
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A woman after my own heart I wasn’t reading all that and yeah it aint that serious but that pic of him is Let talk about that
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

That’s the same as saying Yung Berg is the greatest lyricist ever.
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http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

Jadakiss????
CFREE

KDub says

Jay-Z got early onset cause I agree….he been saying the same ish since 1999 and he forgot he done said it. Still tambout drugs he sold back in 1979….

This chit here!
candibfly

didn’t he use to wear a paper towel around his head?
Ty

Bigbadwolf says:

All these dudes still rap
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No schedules for concerts any of these people, nor relevant albums out, Please name a new song from each one off the top of your head
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See this is where it gets twisted. Its not about who is current or who is popular. We are talking straight lyrical assasins and that shyt doesnt expire. Again, any of those rappers can still shyt on anyone that is currently riding the charts with some shyt they released over 10 years ago.

Just my $0.02
Cupcake

@ Dmisses.. and that’s the problem! As long as what’s being said is a joke, or in a song with a catchy beat its all good. But let someone say something that is meaningful or typed with correct grammar.. its a miss, huh? Yep, your name says it all and my post can most certainly be ‘missed’ by you or whom ever else that can’t see the forest for the trees. If you don’t want to read all of that, then by-pass it and skip to the next comment, don’t let the world know you’re too simple minded to read.
http://yallaintchit.com/ Man, I just don’t care™

@TY
“Nope I like intelligence, metaphors, similies, passion, connection, approach, projection, swag/style, delivery, etc.\

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Using this as criteria, the ONLY thing you can hold against Wayne is POSSIBLY delivery (you either like his voice or you don’t) and intelligence (because he usually rappin bout some ignant chit or sex).

but the rest of the chit I gotta say he has…
CFREE

@ Man, I like Jada Kiss im not suggesting he’s one of the elite tho
LuvnMeIzEz2Do

Like Whhhaaatttt? Rolling Stones needs to get off the GAS with all that!

Like I said before, I have heard some thangs bout Em, but that man is not the King of HipHop #Fact That…
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

Even Jay hasn’t forgotten about Ether
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Nas slaughtered Jay on that song….
Hands Down!!!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex

See this is where it gets twisted. Its not about who is current or who is popular. We are talking straight lyrical assasins and that shyt doesnt expire. Again, any of those rappers can still shyt on anyone that is currently riding the charts with some shyt they released over 10 years ago.
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That’s true cause Andre 3000 doesnt really tour and that nigga got a fierce mouth piece….U are more than likely to see Jesus before you see 3000 perform ANYWHERE!!!
Cupcake

@ Choc.. If you cared to READ what i wrote you would’ve READ that I addressed the picture…
Ty

Man, I just don’t care™ says:

@TY
“Nope I like intelligence, metaphors, similies, passion, connection, approach, projection, swag/style, delivery, etc.\

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Using this as criteria, the ONLY thing you can hold against Wayne is POSSIBLY delivery (you either like his voice or you don’t) and intelligence (because he usually rappin bout some ignant chit or sex).

but the rest of the chit I gotta say he has…
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@ Man…I guess but what the hell is this:

“I am trapped in a maze therefore I am amazing”
SamYell JacksEm

Nas did not slaughter Jay with Ether. And I like them both so it’s not a fan thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTFpzMTVxM Ace

….so pissed i missed this conversation
SamYell JacksEm

@Ty
I’ve never listened to Wayne and had to rewind the song. I do bump his music though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvOeA7rqxnM DMisses

Cupcake it’s not about me not being able to read dear, everyone here has an opinion but nobody even replied to yours I wonder why. I don’t see any posts here with incorrect grammar, just because I openly admitted I wasn’t interested in reading your diatribe of bullsh*tb doesn’t make you smarter than anyone else on this post so get over yourself.
KDub

While Wayne does talk a helleva lot about sex and other shat …he will hitchu with a “Misunderstood” or a “Georgia Bush” and fukk your head up. The dude may be high most of the time but I can tell he paid attention in school/college while he was there.

Whereas Jay-Z graduated from high school in 1982. Are we really gonna want to listen to what a 50 yo man gotta say in 8-9 years? If we by that time are pushing or at 40 our ownselves?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvOeA7rqxnM DMisses

Choco aka Hippie says:

Nobody is going to sit there and read thru all that chit Cupcake dang, some of you are really taking this too serious when this is merely a debate.
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A woman after my own heart I wasn’t reading all that and yeah it aint that serious but that pic of him is Let talk about that
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Lmao
Ty

*scrolls back up to Cupcake with :Popcorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SnootyPooty

Poor EM though that picture of him is not the business. The picture reminds me of a dead person with a lot of make up on. bbbbbooooooooooooooooooooo on the photoshop
SamYell JacksEm

@KDub
I do think if Wayne didn’t put out all that microwave shyt he would be formidable. I was hoping that that skid bid he did would make his music deeper but he got out on the same shyt and I was thoroughly dissappointed.
Cupcake

@ DMiss .. I didn’t write what I did for replies, responses, or co signs.
I don’t need an audience or anything of the like. Also, if you didn’t read my post you have no right to call it BS.. and how can a person’s spin on something be BS anyways?

Further more, I didn’t say that anyone here in this post or in particular used incorrect grammar.. I was making a point. But again you couldn’t see the forest for the trees.

So like I said.. skip my loooong post and keep it moving to the next just like er’body else. I don’t need co signs, High 5’s, comments, or replies… so unless Aunty herslef feels partial to my post then it is what it is.
Creamychic

Cupcake says:

@ Redeemed … do you realize that you have no heaven or hell to put anyone in?? Do you realize that no man knows the fate of another man’s soul other than GOD???

Anyone that is still breathing has a chance here on this earth because they can still ask for forgiveness .. not from you.. but from our Heavenly Father!!

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thank you hun

(((And @ redeemed777, u may have knowledge, but ? why do you have that pagan Goddess as your profile no true man og GOD, YAH, ETC… would ever have graven images to represent them .. just a question..
Cupcake

SnootyPooty says:

Poor EM though that picture of him is not the business. The picture reminds me of a dead person with a lot of make up on. bbbbbooooooooooooooooooooo on the photoshop

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I definately agree!! This picture doesn’t do him any justice!!
#WhoseIdeaWasThis
Creamychic

DMisses and Cupcake : I now pronounce yall sista,
Cupcake

Creamychic says:

thank you hun

(((And @ redeemed777, u may have knowledge, but ? why do you have that pagan Goddess as your profile no true man og GOD, YAH, ETC… would ever have graven images to represent them .. just a question..

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No prob! Fanatics like this annoy me to no end!
Cupcake

Creamychic says:

DMisses and Cupcake : I now pronounce yall sista,

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LOL! I’m cool, I swear I am. I rarely do post, so when I do I am passionate about what I say. So for someone to take a cheap shot about what I said when they did’t even READ it is uncalled for.
creolegirl29

ok is it just me or does M&M look like a corspe on the cover of that mag, kinda of creepy!
http://twitter.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

why people bring up age in hiphop when no other artform scolds you for being a certain age? i think if you should continue to make music until your music is just not good anymore.
cocoa49

Sandra you couldn’t have said it better. There are a handful of rappers whose music i appreciate, but the rest is garbage. I am tired of hearing about money, diamonds, cars, ho’s etc. I have watch this hip hop scene slowly sink away. I give it a couple of more years to stay alive.
http://twitter.com/jaysreallife Jay Bee

Hey Cupcake all that you wrote up top…. Thats every BLACK mans story… so whatcha Sayin.. Hip Hop started with and belongs to blacks ..we aint giving the torch to no other man..sorry
The Divalicious NP

White magazine votes white rapper as the king of hip hop….no surprises here.
datsmdubya2u

@divalicious

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trenee

well alright! i like Em…my mom does too! she’s the one who introduced me! smh
Naturally_Sexy

He looks like Amber Rose :-/
Cupcake

@ Jay Bee … I believe that every artist’s story is unique in it’s own way whether they are Black, White, Brown, or whatever. Being that the post was about EMINEM I talked about how the talent of this particular artist has impacted both my life and my views of rap music as a whole.

Other artist (rap) that I dig are Kanye West, Andre 3000, Bun B, Drake, Eightball & MGJ, Lil’ Wayne, Ludacris, Nicki Minaj, Scarface and maybe a few more that I jam to on the regular. Of all these artists I can say that I’ve only purchased albums by Kanye West, OutKast, Drake, and Nicki Minaj. (Mainly because my significant other has all the others and what’s his is mine). :0)

One Love!