Last month, a Florida man was arrested by police on child abuse charges after he sent a video to an online video streaming site showing him harshly disciplining a young boy. Later it was revealed that the man was not related to the boy.

The video and the arrest sparked furious debate on social media and blogs about the effectiveness of spanking children.

Christians often quote the Bible which promotes “correcting” children in physically violent ways, such as whipping them with belts and extension cords.

Proverbs 23:13-14 says “Withold not discipline from the child, for if you strike and punish him with the (reed-like) rod, he will not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.”

But child advocates say the Bible’s suggested modes of discipline are outdated and uncivilized. They point to recent cases of child abuse arising from spankings that resulted in murder — and they recommend an end to the practice of spanking children violently.

Duane ‘Dog the Bounty Hunter’ Chapman added his voice to the debate after someone mailed an audio of his grandson being spanked violently by the child’s biological father. The audio of 9-year-old Travis Mimms Jr being called a “bastard” and a “dipsh*t” by his father who whips him with a belt is disturbing to hear.

Mr Chapman, who has been granted temporary custody of his late daughter’s child, tells Entertainment Tonight he was “overwhelmed” by the audio.

He tells ET’s Chris Jacobs that Travis Sr beat the boy after the child complained to school officials that his father was whipping him.

“The school had told [Mimms], ‘Your son is telling his friends he’s getting beat!'” he said.

“So because the teacher went to the parent – the abuser – and said, ‘Hey there’s rumours you’re beating your kid’ … he went home and did exactly that,” said Chapman.

On the shocking audio a man’s voice booms: “Bend over, bend the f**k over. You know what to do.” As the beating continues, the man yells “Move your hand. MOVE IT!” The child cries, “No more daddy, please.”

Afterwards, the man yells, “now you can f*cking go to school and complain!”

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Dog’s daughter passed away in a car accident in 2006. Since then, Dog and Beth raised Travis junior and eventually turned him over to his father after integrating him into the child’s life.

Travis Sr filed a restraining order against Chapman after he told him about the existence of the audio tape.

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  • http://twitter.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

    damn he crispy in that pic

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    My mama and daddy would have done the same chit. Beat my ass for telling my teacher. And trust me I’ve been called worst than a bastard and a dipchit…

    Folks too damn sensitive. That’s why kids aint chit these days.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

    *sigh*
    *sigh*

    This topic can go in so many different directions…we live in a different world now…

    I was spanked as a child and honestly I can’t see how it HELPED me, but it certainly didn’t HURT me… :shrugs:

  • SunRiseBlossom

    Wow… This is so sad… I hate to hear of a child being mistreated!!! Child abuse do exist!!! I just :pray: for these babies because it’s a crazy world out there… Yes I do believe in displinary actions being taken to correct a child, but not to the extreme… Children are not created punching/beating bags… They are humans!!! And deserve to be treated as such… :crying:

  • sugar-booger

    It is so ridiculously disgusting that anyone would treat a child in anyway close to this. If child abuse is proven with concrete evidence such as this there should be NO MERCY for those who treated a child this way.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFLOattRDE ELove

    THAT 1st Pic is So Ridiculously HALLOWEEN-Ish !!! :blink:

    It’s LIKE their in between MORPHING into Their Full Creature-MODE :coffee:

  • EB

    Who recorded the child being spanked?

  • KyCakes

    eastpointvet says:

    damn he crispy in that pic
    —————————————-
    A Crispity, crackly, crunchity…. :rofl:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    a spanking does not = child abuse. we only use as a last resort, but yeah, we WILL teahdatazzup if needed :coffee:
    #novideo

  • Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

    I STILL CAN’T STAND THAT MULLET WEARING AZZ BASTARD! :coffee:

  • lady_cn

    People still wear mullets?

    :blink:

  • vero

    Ive been spanked a lot of times, never cursed, never abused and I turned out just find (please don’t go to the previous post :lol: :

  • lady_cn

    I am a firm believer in spanking your child, matter of fact I think all kids need it from time to time, but there is a difference between spanking and beating. Huge. :coffee:

  • Mother Jefferson

    :coffee: well once this recording gets around online enough he is probably going to get arrested

  • Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

    Heeey Kycakes, I saw you speak in the last post, but it’s too many dayum posts! :lol: :hug:

  • lovezoe

    My mama beat me one time, made me wear a sweater and DARED me to take it off at school. I was so tempted to. I don’t agree necessarily with calling names, but some kids need to be gotten into everyone once in a while. My mom straddled me one time for my smart mouth. Then I was mad, looking back she did what she had to do.

    Dog racist behind not fit to raise no kids himself.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    This reminds me of the time that my sister told her teacher that my mom was spanking her at home. My mom packed her bag, took it to the school and said if you think you can do a better job, here you go.

    Spankings didn’t kill me or my sister but there’s a fine line that some people cross where a spanking goes from simple punishment to straight up abuse.

  • renegadesince1985

    I don’t see anything wrong with spanking a child…this is not spanking :nono: The name calling, cursing etc…that’s abuse. Calling your child a bastard and dipshyt? That’s why kids grow up with no self esteem and turn into the scourge of society. :no: SMH…

  • lovezoe

    LaTechGrad02 says:

    This reminds me of the time that my sister told her teacher that my mom was spanking her at home. My mom packed her bag, took it to the school and said if you think you can do a better job, here you go.
    ——————————–
    I am from a small city. My mom works for the City. I called the popo one time on her, a guy she know came. He laughed, told me to straighten up and left. My mom said I will tell the judge if they can do a better job at parenting you, they can have you.

  • caligirl

    I don’t like him anyways. :newpost: Please

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    GM FeFe :hug:
    TaBew :kiss:
    Rene :fistbump:
    Vero :yahoo:

    et All

  • caligirl

    Mother Jefferson says:

    well once this recording gets around online enough he is probably going to get arrested
    _____
    It there a bounty on the DAWG? That should be interesting “bro”

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    Spanking, I am fine with. This society needs more spankings.

    However- I cannot STAND to hear folks curse at kis under age 14-15 (cause that’s when they usually start trying to curse at you.) I HATE that. That’s mentally abusive. I got several spankings, but never called names or cursed at until I was above 16 sooooo…yeah.

  • luVn_liFe…

    FeFe says:

    This topic can go in so many different directions…we live in a different world now…

    I was spanked as a child and honestly I can’t see how it HELPED me, but it certainly didn’t HURT me…

    I totally agree with you on that statement We Live in such a Diffrent World NOW.
    Back in the early 80s when my mother gave u a whOOping,you got a BEAT Down!
    Me personally i havent had to whoop my son in years and only have 3xs in his 17yrs of life.I dont like it nor do i Condone a savaging beating
    :no:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    :hi: cali
    Dougie :dance: sup bew?

  • Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

    Heeey Fay Fay (my REAL bay bay)

  • vero

    lovezoe says:

    My mom said I will tell the judge if they can do a better job at parenting you, they can have you.

    ^^^^ My cousin did that once, after ‘beating’ her 9 yo daughter who had stolen from a store, the kid went to complain to the school nurse, the teacher.
    they called the mom with a social worker. she packed a bag, told them, you can keep her, and she left.
    Needless to say, they called her back and say, try not to be too hard next time.

  • Ms.kaylamomma

    It hurt me to hear that audio. :wail: Although I spank my child, I’ve never used anything other than my hand to spank her butt. She’s light bright and bruises easily.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

    :hugs: @Fayla

  • rjk8

    Christians often quote the Bible which promotes “correcting” children in physically violent ways, such as whipping them with belts and extension cords
    _________________________________________
    Can someone name one religion that does not approve of spanking your child? It’s worked for thousands of years if done only when necessary and to correct. Now, all of a sudden it’s child abuse? Child abuse does exist, however, there is a difference between spanking to correct and child abuse.

    Let’s not confuse the two and act as if any form of corporal punishment is abuse.

  • luVn_liFe…

    I Just want to Know who,how and where the heck the recording came from???

  • vero

    Luvn, I know the spanking helped me.
    i was always so scared of getting caught for acting up and getting one of those, that I always thought twice and chose to be good :)

    Fayfay !!! :hug:

  • GeminEyez

    I would like to know who was recording all of this as well…

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    SunRiseBlossom says:

    Children are not created punching/beating bags… They are humans!!! And deserve to be treated as such…
    _____________

    Exactly! People don’t understand the damage they cause when they beat children rather than talk to them. Those children grow up to take their bottled up anger out on others. But y’all don’t care as long as it’s not you :coffee:

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    ) I HATE that. That’s mentally abusive. I got several spankings, but never called names or cursed at until I was above 16 sooooo…yeah.
    _________________________________________________________________
    I agree with that! Mama’s tongue was way more scary than any whooping she ever gave me. I’ve been called everything but a child of God. And she’d do it public, at church she didnt give a damn. But that’s how her mother raise her.

    I’m breaking the cycle though.

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    Hey Fay!!! & French!!! :hug:

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    EB says:

    Who recorded the child being spanked?
    _____________

    A good neighbor who felt sorry for the boy.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ lovezoe: beatings never worked on me. But I got my mouth washed out with soap one time, and THAT worked! :yes:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    oh, & name calling ur kids = child abuse. & there is a distinct diff between spanking & BEATING. spankings dont leave marks..for 1

  • lovezoe

    At the time it didn’t work, but looking back I see why that method was used.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    @chi :(
    it breaks my heart when i hear ppl cussin their kids out. sorry u went thru that

  • lovezoe

    Though my kids are only 6 and almost 5, I never call them names, I don’t say shut up. None of that.

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    I’m not about to get in this debate again. I’m too tired. :no:

    But I will say that I can’t this mothafcker for so many other reasons. Starting with his damn hair. :mad: :cuss:

  • rjk8

    Sandra Rose says:

    SunRiseBlossom says:

    @Sandra

    Children are not created punching/beating bags… They are humans!!! And deserve to be treated as such…
    _____________

    Exactly! People don’t understand the damage they cause when they beat children rather than talk to them. Those children grow up to take their bottled up anger out on others. But y’all don’t care as long as it’s not you
    _______________________________________

    I normally agree with you, but you certainly know this is not the case not even the majority of times. If you have a parent who doesn’t spank, but psychologically abuses the child those kids can be just as or even more disturbed. Each parent, child and situation is different. Child abuse does take place. Spanking is not abuse. Please do not confuse the two.

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    @Fayla
    She STILL be trying to pull that chit. She be calling me sensitive. I’m like naw its just certain chit u shouldnt even WANT to say to your child. But now I can go back off on her ass. She dont like it when its done to her. :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    it may be like at least a year since my son got a spanking. hubbys stern voice usually does the trick. train em young i say :yes:

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    I have to tap Ladybug’s hands and thighs like 2 or 3 times a day. My child is 2 going on 22 and I have to spank her to keep her ass in line. She will NOT embarrass me in public! :lol:

  • Ms.kaylamomma

    It’s hard being a parent (to those who have children). You just hope the methods that you’re using (spanking or not) will discipline them enough to be a productive member of society.

    I despise the “parents” that cuss out their children, especially the babies. Like what the fck, they don’t understand shyt you’re saying but here you go taking your frustration out on them. Stupid! :mad:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    :lol: at fayla’s screen name

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    @chi..from what i’ve seen, ppl that call their kids out their names dont rly care much abt themselves #noshade @mamchi ijs
    & pls dont fluck up ur own blessings by disrespecting her even tho she does it to u. dont let her misery become urs. most likely thats what she wants

  • lovezoe

    My husband is deployed so I am raising a boy by myself for the next 6 months. It starts EARLY. You can’t let your kids act a donkey because they young. My mom always says what you think is cute when they are young, will be the same ish that will be embarrassing you when they get older.

  • Ms.kaylamomma

    @Chibytex hey girl. Do you think at 2, she knows why you’re spanking her? #noshade #nojudgement Just asking

  • JMO

    If you dont think this was abuse, you were probably abused as a kid smh

  • http://Www.yallaintchit.com Man, I just don’t care™

    I have received about 5 whippings in my life. I deserved every single one of them. The last one was when I pushed my brother in front of a car (yes, I’m serious).

    I think verbal abuse is worse.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg Fayla aka NotSammySosaSister

    @melissa..ion want folks confused n chit ;)

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  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    I despise the “parents” that cuss out their children, especially the babies. Like what the fck, they don’t understand shyt you’re saying but here you go taking your frustration out on them. Stupid! :mad:
    _____________________________________________________________
    The sad thing is that the parents dont understand nor do they care about the damage they are doing to their child. I try to tell my mama this and all she can say is that I’m weak like my daddy. He left her ass cause he got tired of her mouth and tired of them fighting (physical) everyday. She grew up in that environment and he didnt.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    Chiby – I have a two yr old too and girl she has got a little attitude on her! Terrible twos it is for sure! I have to pop her on the butt when my stern voice doesnt work. I always feel horrible and tell her mommys sorry and then i always explain to her that she cant act that way with me.

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    I admit that I curse at my kids sometimes cause I have a nasty mouth when I get angry or really frustrated. It’s something that I’m working on.

    But I make sure to draw the line at name calling. My grandma was good for doing that and I hated it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

    @Man

    I only got 4 whippings in my lifetime…and I don’t remember what any of them were for except for the last one when I was about 11 and I talked real slick to my mother and tried to walk away like I was HARD…

    I agree that verbal abuse is worse, my cousin curses her kids out and calls them ‘lil niggas’ all the time and it breaks my HEART!

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    @Ms Kayla
    Trust me Ladybug knows exactly what she’s getting a spanking for. If I tell her no she cant have something or no dont do that, she wait til my back is turned or for me to leave the room and do it. She sneaky and spoiled. Yes I take responsibility in her spoiledness but I have to break that. Or she’ll grow up thinking she can do whatever the hell she wants.

    I’m starting early. My child can hold damn near a full conversation. I aint playing games with her.

  • rockstar

    Glad to know some people know the difference between discipline and abuse. You can verbally abuse someone without ever having to touch them. That’s just as bad. Emotional abuse is another one. Some children don’t straighten up even after being talked to five hundred times. I was one of those children. My mother always told me I was from Missouri, because she had to always show my *ss that she wasn’t playing. You want to talk about a hard headed child. Pssst, that was me!!! She didn’t cuss us out, but she sure talked alot when whipping myself and my siblings. All eight of us turned out fine.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    kaylas mommy – I often wonder if she realizes that when you dont listen to your mommy/when you try and hit me/throw your food on the ground just because and I spank her, if she puts the two together. But I think that explaining to them makes the difference. because when I tell her why I spanked her and that she hurts my feeling when she hits/throws a tantrum/whatever, I can see that she gets it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuqgD6GKjw&feature=related French KI$$E$

    I think verbal abuse is worse
    ______________________

    :cosign:

    but so is abusive beatings….

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    I always feel horrible and tell her mommys sorry and then i always explain to her that she cant act that way with me.
    ______________________________________________________
    Explain to her what she did wrong, but never apologize for spanking her! As long as you arent abusing her, you owe her no apologies for disciplining her.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    chiby – my girl also can speak and understand very well. they are a lot smarter and observant than we think, especially at this age.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuqgD6GKjw&feature=related French KI$$E$

    my father back handed me once…after i called my mother a “crazy bitch”

    but thats cause she was beating my ass…

    my mom would whoop me from time to time only because i had a nasty TUDE and because of my bad grades in school

    now my brother on the other hand got beat everyday EVERYDAY you hear me!
    :lol: he never learned his lesson…

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    the spanking is not a problem with me… u making the child FEAR u and constantly beating them and the verbal abuse is a fukn problem words hurt more than the spanking and leave a deeper scar..

  • Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

    :dead: @ Fayla’s name! :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    Yeah, if you’re gonna spank, don’t apologize. I think that sends mixed messages.

    Do explain why the got the spanking though.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    I see what youre saying but I tell her like this: mommys sorry for spanking you BUT you cant do (whatever she did). Its not nice and it hurts mommy. Lets try it again. and then she acts right.
    I usually dont have to go there unless I have asked/told her to do/not to do something more that 3 times.

  • http://www.twitter.com/brownskinn86 brownskinn86

    I do agree with spankings but not every child needs to be spanked. It all depends on the child and the best way to get their attention. I HATE to hear people curse at their kids especially little kids like age 8 and under. And I would classify washing someones mouth out with soap to be child abuse..aren’t there toxins and things in that which could cause some serious stomach damage?! :shrug:

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

    I believe in spanking as a form of discipline for the most severe infractions. Sort of a punishment fits the crime sort of thing. I don’t believe it is appropriate the vast majority of time and name calling is an absolute no no under all circumstances. I can’t think of an occasion where that would be appropriate from a parent to a child.

    I’m glad Dog got that child away from that man. All he was doing was making the child angry. Point out any dude in the pokey and I bet he’ll tell you mama and/or daddy didn’t spare the rod. It doesn’t work so why do it other than to abuse your child for making your mad?

  • GAGIRL87

    I feel so sorry for that little boy there is so much angry in his father’s voice. It’s a big difference between abuse and a good azz whoopin b/c Lord knows I got plenty “good azz whoopins” when I was growing up.

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    French KI$$E$ says:

    my father back handed me once…after i called my mother a “crazy bitch”

    but thats cause she was beating my ass…
    ________________________________________________________
    :rofl:

    Girl me and my mother has almost came to blows. She was calling me all kinds of names. I had to be about 17. I bucked up to her like I was gonna knock the chit outta her. That’s when my stepfather (with his bish ass) stepped in and told me that I needed to leave and stay some where else for a while since I thought I was grown enough to wanna hit my mama. So that’s what I did. I left and stayed with my cousin for about 4 months.

  • ssweetheart85

    My thought process on spankings is that they can sometimes be necessary depending on the circumstances however there is a difference between a spanking and a beating. To me beatings and especially when there’s cursing, name calling,etc is degrading and abuse. There is nothing worse to me than hearing a mother call her daughter a bytch or slapping her in the face..complete disrespect.

    I think there’s many ways and methods to disciplining your child without your first instinct being to hit your child. Spankings don’t work on every child…there’s a method of discpline for each child and it takes a patient parent to figure that out.

    But on the flipside of that..I do not think anyone should have the right to tell me how to raise or discipline my child. Period. Ppl get so caught up in others business and don’t spend enough worrying abt their own. The office I work in and I hate to say it..mostly the white ppl are so damn nosy its ridiculous. One of them had the nerve to tell me that if they saw me spank my child they would call CPS. Now mind you I’m prego w my first baby now. And I said to her..there is a reason why you’re children disrespect, curse and talk to you any kind of way. Maybe its bc instead of policing and teaching your own, you feel the need to worry about everyone else. Mind ya damn business.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    I guess I apologize because I dont wanna have to do it in the mf-n first place! Im like damn girl LISTEN to your mommy :lol: because u about to get whooped! But, if she is my daughter, she will unfortunately inherit my traits, good or bad. And I damn sho didnt listen :lol:

  • GAGIRL87

    72 brownskinn86 says:

    I do agree with spankings but not every child needs to be spanked. It all depends on the child and the best way to get their attention. I HATE to hear people curse at their kids especially little kids like age 8 and under. And I would classify washing someones mouth out with soap to be child abuse..aren’t there toxins and things in that which could cause some serious stomach damage?!

    _____________________________________________________________________

    I have to agree with you b/c my son is 5 and spankings DO NOT work for him. Since he’s the only child he’s mad spoiled toys everywhere, the best way to discipline him is taking away something he loves like his wii, psp, cars2 toys etc. Or time out b/c he hates to be still. So you just have to find out what works best for your child.

  • Ms.kaylamomma

    @Chiby and Melissa Both of you have valid points.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    totally agree with whoever said spanking shouldnt be ur first method of discipline. I give my girl a lot of lee-way when it comes to “acting up” because she is only 2 after all. But, you have to start early otherwise they will walk all over you later and i’ll be damned :nono:

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    Im trying not to spank my son anymore u know do the time out thing… its a working progress :lol: when u are raised to get spankings its hard to change but i do see that my son don’t need to be spank all the time i think moteration balance now if he do something really bad oh yeah!! **takes out her chancla**

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    As many issues as I had with my mother, I would have walked away before I ever hit her. :nono:

    Besides it being just about the most disrespectful thing you could do to a parent; I still had so much life ahead of me and was not trying to die young. :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    There is nothing worse to me than hearing a mother call her daughter a bytch or slapping her in the face..complete disrespect.
    ___________________________________________________________
    Bish, hoe, tramp, slut, dumb ass, stupid, fat ass, ugly….
    Somebody should have called CPS on my mama or recorded her and sent it to the police… :yes:

  • lovezoe

    I don’t even tell my kids they are bad. I tell them their behavior is inappropriate

  • luVn_liFe…

    vero says: i was always so scared of getting caught for acting up and getting one of those, that I always thought twice and chose to be good
    I Know there were 3 boys and 3 girls I too was scurred shyte less when my siblings would get a smack down and i learned thru there tears and swole butts.
    @loveZoe
    I agree with you about Not saying shut up MY child learned at 2 SHUT UP is Rude,DONT Say it,as i dont say it either.
    and he wont/dont answer me or any others around Me “What”
    That Just goes thru me to hear kids say WHAT?”:no:

  • LuvMySailor

    I was spanked as a child and I turned out fine. I have no anger issues or emotional brusing these nancycat child “Psychologists” like to write about.

    There is a difference between spanking and abuse. You do not spank in anger. You don’t curse and scream at a child.

    This is why society has broken down: we are too afraid of the government/police/social workers to discipline our children. Now, they are running aruond like hooligans and I’m sorry, but becomeing worse by the day.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    lakes – i have tried time outs but it just seems to make my girl more upset. I REALLY dont like spanking her and I too am trying everything else I can think of because she is really getting into the terrible twos stage. But in the end, she gets so much love and affection from me and her dad that I even though I feel bad at that moment, I know that she will benefit from having structure and discipline early in her life.

  • Creamychic

    afternoon :waves: everybody, another scripture taking out of context, smh, but anyway hows all my peps, this is all

  • JMO

    Chi, did ur grandma talk to ur mom like that?

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    @ZOE

    I never tell me boys they are bad. I tell them they are good kids that make bad choices. Which is the truth.

    @LAKER

    Because my kids were wards of the state I had no choice but to learn a different way to discipline than the way I knew. I’m actually glad for it. Most of the time. :lol:

  • LuvMySailor

    I know I generally go the “Imma warn you first but next time you’re getting a spanking route” with lil cousins. BUT, they also know the rule with Auntie is “If you act a fool in public, I’m going to treat you like a fool in public”

    Needless to say, I’ve never had an incident of a temper tantrum thrown hahaha

  • ssweetheart85

    @Chiby

    Omg so sorry you went through that..I would never ever curse my daughter that way and it burns me up because my aunt used to do my little cousin that way, calling her all types of names…she still calls them niggas…and wonders why they lack respect for her. Hmmm I wonder why? Could it be you showed them how to disrespect you when you disrespected them?

    Honestly, spankings should never be a first means of discipline. I can count on one hand how many spankings I got. I used to be a bookworm, loved to read, so to punish me my mother would take my books. She would leave my tv, radio and toys and jackmode my books…man talk abt a punishment. You wldve thought she was beating me lol.

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @mel i’m trying to stop the spanking simply because i dont want my child to FEAR me i want them to respect me but not FEAR thats when other people take advantage and do nasty chit like molest because they know the child wont tell **personal experience** dont get me wrong with my two year old she a lil brat sometimes i spank her because she dont understand “go to the corner and stare at the wall count till 30” she start to screming and not staying still so i usually give her lots of warning then i pop he butt and make her sit down and calm down… one thing i dont do is insult my child there is no “dum azz stupid ” none of that

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    @MEL

    If timeouts upset your little one, I think that means they are working. She’s not supposed to like getting a consequence for unacceptable behavior. Not wanting a timeout will help her to learn to make better behavior choices as she gets older.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuqgD6GKjw&feature=related French KI$$E$

    I WOULD NEVER THINK OF HITTING MY MOTHER NEVER!!!

    i felt so bad i called her a crazy bitch i was 14 and didnt speak to hear for a week! I had no choice afterwards because we found out she was pregnant with my lil sis! :lol: but she call me bitch all the time now wheni’m moody :lol: “oh you must be on your period” “why are you acting so bitchy” :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    JMO says:

    Chi, did ur grandma talk to ur mom like that?
    _____________________________________________________
    :yes: My mother’s mama was a BEAST! She’d :cuss: Barack Obama’s ass out if he did something she didnt like. She didnt give a fukk!!

    That’s why I said that its a cycle and the cycle stops with me. Ion even :cuss: my husband out like my mom used to do my daddy and stepfather. My mama would :cuss: my step dad out in front of his friends, but then didnt understand why her face was getting :smack:

    My mama was a beast. She’s better than she used to be. But she still gotta mouth on her. But now that I’m grown I dont have to put up with it. I can hang up or go back off on her. Even though me going off is usually when I’m :mad: as hell.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    I cant imagine talking to my girl like that!!! name calling??? f-ck that. she is so sweet though, like how can you look at a sweet little face, knowing how much they love you, and call them ugly horrible names??? I am sorry to those that have experienced that mess!!!

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    French KI$$E$ says:

    I WOULD NEVER THINK OF HITTING MY MOTHER NEVER!!!

    i felt so bad i called her a crazy bitch i was 14 and didnt speak to hear for a week! I had no choice afterwards because we found out she was pregnant with my lil sis! :lol: but she call me bitch all the time now wheni’m moody :lol: “oh you must be on your period” “why are you acting so bitchy” :lol:
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    U didnt have the kind of mother I had. I grew up with Precious’ mama! #realtalk

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @melis i think it happens when its been done to the parent my mother was verbaly and physicly abuse by my granpa and my father so she did not know anyother way of diciplining her child at 16 u know….
    @chi i sometimes blame my madre chi for how she used to talk down to me i can only remember a hand full of times were she beat me but i remember all the hurtfull shyt she used to say to me.. but i forgive and me and her see eye to eye now.. maybe sitting down with ur madre without a judgin attitude might help it took me 18 years to tell my madre i was molested and that is only because i feard her and hold so much anger i became happier after i let it go :yes:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuqgD6GKjw&feature=related French KI$$E$

    @chi yeah girl that aint right :sad: …i’m def glad my mother never did my parents were very loving and caring

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    yso – ur right. They work because she has to be seperated from me and that kills her! we are joined at the hip normally :yes:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    french – mine were too. The few times I did get spanked I deserved every single one of them.

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    @MEL
    I think that’s why they work so well for my youngest (5) aka my shadow. :lol:

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

    YSoSerious says:

    @MEL

    If timeouts upset your little one, I think that means they are working.
    *********************************

    :hahaha: That’s what I was thinking.

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    @Lakes
    we had a talk when she came to visit a couple weeks ago. But the one thing I realize is that my mama aint gonna change the way she THINKS. Its gotta start from there. Its hard for me to forgive her when she doesnt even acknowledge that she did anything wrong. I see her as Precious’ mama and she sees herself as Claire Huxtible :shrug:

    I dont hold nothing against her. But I still feel like a lot of things that’s fukked about me is because of her. Then she always talking down on my daddy. That man in my gravi is my EVERYTHING!! I will fukk a bish up over my daddy. :yes:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    lakes – my grandma did that to my mom and her siblings. she had to break the cycle because my dad wouldnt let her whoop me. I understand how hard it is to break cycles because my mom is/was a yeller. she would yell at me to get her point across. and I find myself doing the same thing to baby girl. But I am getting better and I have more patience because I dont want to yell at her so I take a few deep breaths and try again :shrug:

  • KyCakes

    vero says:

    lovezoe says:

    My mom said I will tell the judge if they can do a better job at parenting you, they can have you.

    ^^^^ My cousin did that once, after ‘beating’ her 9 yo daughter who had stolen from a store, the kid went to complain to the school nurse, the teacher.
    they called the mom with a social worker. she packed a bag, told them, you can keep her, and she left.
    Needless to say, they called her back and say, try not to be too hard next time.

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    EXACTLY! CPS tried to do that mess. I told them if they can do better, COME GET THIS BOY! They closed the case w/o a home visit or anything. :rofl:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    bird and yso – my girl doesnt wanna stay in timeout though?! do yall just keep putting them back in until they stay? I hate to see her get all worked up!

  • Crickett

    That’s extreme, there is a line to not cross, anything over 3 swats abuse. I think mind mannered people have mild mannered kids. Me on the other hand have some hell raisers because I raised hell. I talk, preach, and put myself in time out to keep from raising a hand to them. My friends 12 year old daughter disappeared for hours one day and came back with an attitude and sucker-bites on her neck. When the mother demanded to know where she was, she lied and said her girlfriends house, she was slapped and sent to her room, took her phone and took th ehinges off the bedroom door- 10 minutes later the police arrived and she was arrested for battery….now social services involved. She had NEVER put her hands on her before. Now the girl control the house do what she want to because she has the law on her side.

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    10 minutes later the police arrived and she was arrested for battery….now social services involved. She had NEVER put her hands on her before. Now the girl control the house do what she want to because she has the law on her side.
    _____________________________________________________________
    I’d tell her she needs to go stay where ever she got them hickies from…and dont take chit of mine that I bought when you leave.

  • JMO

    Whaaat @crickett? Does that lil girl know where she’ll go if they take her away??

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    And some folks had the nerve to say that Black woman are insensitive and abuse their children :coffee:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    jmo! :love: your gravi :yes:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    *women

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @chi well dam… ur mom has a couple of things in common with mine.. madre wont apologize for it but as long as i know she heard what i got to say and how i feel i let it go i guess its the respect i have for her and i never really knew my daddy so she took that and put the fear of god in me telling me “u better be good or ur daddy gon come snatch ur azz” i guess cuz she fear him too.. :shrug: but i do feel better now that i let her know some stuff and she is a diferent person now.. maybe ur mom aint ready or willing to accept or atleast ackowledge her mistakes.. :hug: break the cycle mama!! let ladybug have a good mama and friend in u

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @cricket :wtf: really?? she must of got some ego boosting loving from somebody that make her think she better than mama :nono: ur friend did nothing wrong i woulds slap her azz too go to ur room no human contact for a fukn month!! :mad:

  • http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

    @Lakes
    I thank God for my daddy! Without him I dont know where I’d be. Probably somewhere walking the streets! #realtalk

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    I spank my kids :coffee: Who gon check me, boo?

    What some people fail to realize is that there is a difference between spanking and straight up abuse.

    I spank my kids when they do or say something that they know is wrong and unacceptable.

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @chi :yes: thank god u had somebody u could receive love from.. i think thats how alot of these young ladies get lost and turn in to these loose cuti cats need daddy love and attention to show u what a man is..

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    unpre – how old are your kids?

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @unpredicktable :yes: diference spanking and beating..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    Crickett says:

    That’s extreme, there is a line to not cross, anything over 3 swats abuse. I think mind mannered people have mild mannered kids. Me on the other hand have some hell raisers because I raised hell. I talk, preach, and put myself in time out to keep from raising a hand to them. My friends 12 year old daughter disappeared for hours one day and came back with an attitude and sucker-bites on her neck. When the mother demanded to know where she was, she lied and said her girlfriends house, she was slapped and sent to her room, took her phone and took th ehinges off the bedroom door- 10 minutes later the police arrived and she was arrested for battery….now social services involved. She had NEVER put her hands on her before. Now the girl control the house do what she want to because she has the law on her side.
    ____________

    :blink: Wow.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    melissak380 says:

    unpre – how old are your kids?
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    boys 10 and 5

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    how did you handle the terrible 2s stage

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @melis i think boys are a lil bit more hyper than girls but girls are so sensitive and drama queen **atleast mine is ** :lol:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    melissak380 says:

    how did you handle the terrible 2s stage
    ______________

    It depends on what it was. The oldest was very calm at the age of 2, but that damn little one, whoooooooo chile. The lil one is hard-headed as all hell and extremely smart. So if time-outs didn’t work, he would get popped.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuqgD6GKjw&feature=related French KI$$E$

    GOSH I WANTED TO SPANK THE BOY SITTING NEXT TO ME ON THE BUS THIS MORNING CAUSE HE WOULD NOT SIT STILL……..
    :lol:

    of course i kept my hands to myself and shot him a few “imma beat ya ass if you dont stay still” stare the ones my dad use to give us :lol:

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @french that look is all it took for me to get my shyt together mama would give me that looks like “i cant wait till we get home im gon beat ur azz” :wail: ssscared the whole time i was there and on the way home

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    !*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

    @melis i think boys are a lil bit more hyper than girls but girls are so sensitive and drama queen **atleast mine is **
    _____________________

    Hey hun. My Dad spoils the living rotten hell out of my boys, and one day he had to spank both of them. Well, the older one was 6 and the youngest was almost 2. My Dad popped the big one, and popped the lil one on the back of his pamper. Now you know they can’t feel a damn thing through those pampers. That lil fool fell out screaming like my Dad tore his azz up. :lol: The lil goofball’s feelings were hurt, cuz he just couldn’t believe that Pop-Pop spanked him. :lol:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

    melissak380 says:

    how did you handle the terrible 2s stage
    ________________

    The terrible 2’s are nothing, compared to when they turn 3. That’s when the “mouth” stage begins, along with whatever else. :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    @MEL

    The thing with me is, I don’t care about you kicking and crying and what not. I can’t tell you where the patience comes from but I will wait you out. If you keep getting up from the Quiet Chair (as we call it) I will just politely put you right back until you sit for your allotted time. Or take the chair and make you stand. But you will do your time one way or another.

    This is not easy, especially if you hate to see/hear your baby crying. Or if you have people demanding you get your child to shut the hell up. But it works when you can stick to it consistently. :yes:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuqgD6GKjw&feature=related French KI$$E$

    @lakes gurlllllllllll i was always in check with that look…

    my dad would say “you looking for it, you looking for it”

    and i would say to myself “looking for what :rolleyes::lol:

    had i know my dad would have never beat me i could have done a lot of shit and get away with it… :lol: he was all talk :lol:

  • lisaROSE

    my parents never beat me but i never did things to deserve a beating. my mom would threaten to embarrass me in public if i acted up. my brother on the other hand would put on two pairs of jeans then hide under 2 quilts before my mom got the rubber belt out…. i laughed while watching lololol

  • !*LaKErCHiC@*!

    @unpre ur 2 yr old sound like my 5 yr old his tita *granny* dont even get to scream at him before he got tears in his eyes and dont let her spank him because his world is ove :wail: “u no love me no more tita u pow pow me.. u gon be like my mommy and pow pow me.. whyyyyyyyyyyy?” :wail: my madre be :lol: cus she know i dont spank his lil azz unless he push my dam nerves shut@!

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    lakes – my man said that when they would act up when they were out, his mom would very calmly tell them what she was going to do when they got home. and then proceed to whoop that ass :lol:

    one time I thought it would be “cool” to walk off by myself (i was prob like 8 or 9) and got seperated from my dad. we were at a chucky cheese kinda place but it was called physical whimsical or something. they had rides and games and ish.
    well, I started to get nervous so I found a security guard and he took me to my dad. my dad played it off reeeeal cool like “oh thank you sir i am so glad she is ok”. then he took me to the bathroom and beat my ass like never before. I didnt do that ish again!!!

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    yso – its seems like timeouts are going to be the most effective because popping her butt makes me feel even worse than before. at least with timeouts she is safe lol

    unpre – um she has already started mouthing off :lol: she tells me no!!!! when I say you better behave – she says no!!! i say ima spank ur butt if you keep on – she says no!!! i say girl you better quit – she says no!!! then POP! now she wanna cry and say ouchie! Im like i barely swatted your butt thru ur pullups! aye i love my lil bittie tiny bit though!

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    Yeah, I always find it funny when a kid that never gets even popped on the hand does and they fall the fck out. I think it’s the shock and they actually feel betrayed that someone would dare hit them. I just look at them like “Uh huh. Wasn’t expecting THAT was you? Now maybe you’ll sit your little ass down somewhere.” :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    yso me too! I be like you know i dont play girl! thats why you should listen to your mommy and dont tell me no! then i hug her and tell her she cant talk that way to mommy. aww i wish i could hold her right now

  • LadyLioness

    There is definitely a difference between abuse and spanking. When you beating em for hours on end, leaving cuts and bruises and are verbally abusing them, that’s a problem. But as far as spanking….fugg the bullshyt. SPANK YO KIDS!!! People say we’re in a different world now but that’s because it’s now a world filled of lil spawns of satan because the parents were too damn busy trying to be their friends, or letting tv, radio and other people raise their kids. Spanking your kids keep them in line and on the straight and narrow. Being a time-out parent results in off-the-chain kids that grow up to be off-the-chain adults. :whip: you bad azz kids!!

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    Ah yes…The “NO” phase…I hated that phase. :lol:

    But now my youngest doesn’t say no, he says “stop”. No matter what you say to him it’s “stop”. And I have to :stop: myself from popping him in is little mouth when he does. *sigh*

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    @MEL

    You’re too sweet. That little girl has got you. :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    :lol:

    *drops to knees* nooooooooooooooooooooo

  • JMO

    Lol awwww melissak it sounds like ur a great mommy

  • vero

    All I can say is I’m lucky I had great parents, makes me miss them right now

  • http://www.things2dotoday.blogspot.com Nola_D

    chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

    My mama and daddy would have done the same chit. Beat my ass for telling my teacher. And trust me I’ve been called worst than a bastard and a dipchit…

    Folks too damn sensitive. That’s why kids aint chit these days.

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    Find the nearest doctor and get you have them rip out your uterus…

    I am all for discipline… but NO child should be beat to the point where you are leaving marks and scars on them… Disciple should be given out of love… not anger…

  • jealousCNenvy

    This is exactly why the world is so much different today. This is the reason why the world has so many problems.If you can ask your parents,grand parents and great grandparents, the killing was not like how it is now.If you watch First 48 these youngsters are being arrested at 14 and 15 years old or younger. You know why? Because they have no fear. Back in the day it wasnt like that because you’ll go home and the dad would be first to hit you, then the mom, even the neighbors. Now a days these kids are bad as hell, because of nosey axx people. Now in some cases parents take it to far and take their own frustrations out on kids and those are the ones who should be punished. Not the parent who whips their kids for hitting them, or stealing from the store ect. ect. Thats why kids are killing kids and parents and other adults now a days. NO FEAR!!

  • 100% usa made!

    I don’t care for Dog. Ever since those racist comments, I stopped watching his show.

  • http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY melissak380

    man f-ck a dog bounty f-cker and his punk ass son in law. i hope that man gets his ass beat like he beat that poor boy!!! smdh

  • mjoylaw

    Having raised a boy and a girl, who have different personalities, my opinion is whippings are really for small children because they don’t know any better and you can’t always talk to them; sometimes you have to correct them with a little pain for them to learn right from wrong. If parents are paying attention to their children and parenting, interacting and forming a bond with their child, they’ll recognize when their child is now too old for corporal punishment and you need to be talking with them and providing real life consequences for misbehavior. Such as taking things away from them or grounding them. We also need to be explaining to them how to make their own decisions and how to exercise good judgment, so they know for themselves how to not do wrong, for their own benefit not just because they’re scared of their parents. No longer hitting them, AND NEVER CURSING THEM, there is NO EXCUSE for cursing at a child! EVER!

  • MrsMommy

    “my opinion is whippings are really for small children because they don’t know any better and you can’t always talk to them; sometimes you have to correct them with a little pain for them to learn right from wrong.”
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    You’re scary!!!