Korryn Gaines

Korryn Gaines, the Baltimore woman who was killed following an hours-long standoff with police, was involved in another altercation with cops in March.

Gaines, 23, was killed on Monday after she pointed a loaded shotgun at police and threatened to kill them.

Gaines was pulled over on March 10 after a police officer noticed she was driving a Toyota Camry with a piece of cardboard in place of a tag.

Cardboard tags on the front and rear of her car read:

"Any government official who compromises this pursuit to happiness and right to travel, will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right and freedom."

Gaines was apparently a member of the sovereign citizen movement, an anti-government group whose members believe America's laws don't apply to them.

Korryn Gaines

When the officer asked Gaines to produce a driver's license, she told the officer he didn't have the authority to ask her for a driver's license.

The officer's report stated Gaines was acting belligerently and argumentative. A second officer arrived at the scene. When the 1st officer told Gaines she couldn't operate a motor vehicle without a license or registration, she repeatedly told him he was breaking the law.

Both officers advised Gaines that she could be arrested if she didn't provide proper identification. After running the car's VIN number through the Maryland Motor Vehicle Administration, they learned Gaines was the owner of the vehicle.

But the car was not registered and she was driving without insurance.

The officer reported that when he handed Gaines a citation she threw it out the car window.

Witnesses told WBAL-TV news, "There was an extensive dialogue going on between her and the police."

"There were probably five or six police cars out there, a heavy police presence," the witness said.

Gaines was told the car was being impounded and she needed to exit the vehicle with her 2 children. But she responded she wasn’t getting out of the car and she wouldn't let the officer "steal her car".

Gaines was physically removed from the car and she was combative with the officers. One officer held her arms back so a female officer could safely take her infant away from her.

Gaines was held down on the street and handcuffed, a witness said.

"They dragged her out of the car, basically," the witness said.

The commotion drew a crowd, and Gaines yelled she "could not breathe and to 'record this' while police were placing her under arrest," the witness said.

The witness said, when police removed Gaines's son from the car, "I do remember her telling the kid to bite the officer. (She said), 'Bite him, bite him,'" the witness said.

The witness said the little boy was hysterical, screaming, "You could hear him."

Gaines was transported to a hospital for a psychological evaluation and released.

Her children were released to their grandmother.

Korryn Gaines

On Monday afternoon, police arrived at Gaines's apartment in the Carriage Hill apartment complex.

They were there to serve a warrant on Gaines' live-in boyfriend, Kareem Courtney, for a previous domestic assault on Gaines.

They also had a bench warrant for Gaines who failed to show up to traffic court.

When Gaines refused to answer the door, a landlord let police into the apartment. Gaines confronted the officers with a shotgun and said, “If you don’t leave, I’m going to kill you.”

The police retreated, and Gaines barricaded herself inside the apartment with her 5-year-old son.

At some point during the standoff, Courtney fled the apartment with the couple's young daughter.

After an hours-long standoff, Gaines showed no signs of giving up.

When she fired several rounds at the police, the cops returned fire and she was shot and killed. Her son was wounded in the arm and taken to a local hospital.

In the aftermath of Gaines' death, wild rumors and rampant speculation ruled the day on social media, where misguided Black Lives Matter activists called for protests.

Baltimore County police Chief Jim Johnson held a press conference on Tuesday to clear the air and dispute some of the rumors.

Asked if Gaines's social media accounts were deleted, Johnson explained that during the standoff, Gaines' followers encouraged her to continue updating.

He said police reached out to Facebook officials and asked them to disable Gaines' accounts.

Baltimore County Police Chief Jim Johnson

"Let's talk about social media accounts. We did reach out to social media authorities to deactivate her account," Johnson said.

He said the action was taken "to preserve the integrity of the investigation," and that none of the videos were deleted.

"We can't delete videos. Facebook maintains a law enforcement portal," through which requests to deactivate were made, Johnson said. He added that it took "Facebook one hour to make a decision" to disable the account.

WBAL-TV reports that Gaines filed several lawsuits against landlords after she was exposed to a "sea of lead" in lead-contaminated apartments, that may have caused brain damage.

But in a deposition given for one of the lawsuits, her mother said Gaines was simply hardheaded and refused to listen to authority.

"She didn't want to listen. She has poor decision making skills. I think she needs guidance," her mother said.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    This and all cases when Black person os killed on officer imvolved shooting.

    Someone answer me

    1. When is okay to argue with police.

    I can fight u via aclu or court.

    Also bet the officer was black.

    #senseless

  • AnniA

    This is how movements lose steam..being all inclusive. Her baby's black life didn't seem to matter.

  • whitty hutton

    That sovereign citizen b.s. is a bytch to deal with in court...but I still haven't seen the shotgun she allegedly possessed and fired at police. Surely there is a cell phone recording or witnesses who heard gunshots coming FROM inside the house. **sarcasm**

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Ok. I'm not getting all the info. Half of the comments are coming uo and pieces of the story are coming up.
    Daquan is an ass and I'm sleepy...in that order. Good night!

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Ummm two back-to-back posts?!?!

    WATT GIVES???

    I mean you hold a shotgun to police, THE FUGG YEW THOUGHT WAS GONE HAPPEN?!

    I pray that her children get counseling and are surrounded by folks that love them??

  • thrift.store.jungle

    very unfortunate and seemingly avoidable. peace to the family ??

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    I didn't read no comments yet... I just see two posts?

    Really ?
    :deadhorse:

  • LeBrick James

    "The witness said, when police removed Gaines’s son from the car, “I do remember her telling the kid to bite the officer. (She said), ‘Bite him, bite him,'” the witness said.

    The witness said the little boy was hysterical, screaming, “You could hear him.”"
    ====
    Straight foolishness.
    If you want to resist and confront the police, that's one thing. But don't get your children involved in your mess.

  • whitty hutton

    Agree; however I still need the baby daddy or some other witness besidss law enforcement to confirm she had a shotgun AND fired at police. I bleed red AND blue so facts from both sides always outweigh gossip, innuendo and unfettered emotion, but from initial reports it appears the police simply got "tired" of the standoff. I could be wrong...

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    That punk arse mutha sucka cant tell us shiat. He ran. Who does that.

    All Ive seen it vid with child, yhat broke my heart. Mental illness is real.

  • whitty hutton

    In the previous post, her son seemed extremely uncomfortable...like he was tryna answer the questions like SHE wanted him to answer. Sadly, we'll never hear her side.

  • whitty hutton

    Yeah, my chest got tight watching her son in that video.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    This is some video of arrest Sandra mentions above. She was mentally ill. She kept calling getting arrested being kidnapped. She also kept saying theyes were going to have to kill her in front of her children when they were trying to impound the car.

    I know that things may have been edited or changed but her behavior does not make any sense at all to me. This video is disturbing and unfortunately makes what happened here with her death less surprising. I still awaiting more details on what happened here.

    https://youtu.be/nmy2HCpgPLk

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I posted the video. She told the little boy to fight. She kept repeating she didn't want them to kidnap her and her children.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Work on my tour...get on now

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    She was mentally ill. Something was seriously wrong with her. Why are you holding a gun?

    She kept including that little boy in this stuff. He's going to need a lot of counselling for all he's experienced.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    As a mother, that would give my last breath, I was all the way mad. You hear me.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Did you dance when you said 'in that order'? Be honest. I won't judge you (right now).

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    In dat order. Slams cool pillow
    ?
    ..a gavel

  • LeBrick James

    Bless her heart. Poor thing.
    I'm no psychiatrist, but this sister sounded like she might have been mentally ill.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Order

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Thank you. You and Brick have been voices of reason in these 2 posts. I compared this case to the Sandra Bland case because both women had emotional (not mental) issues that caused them to defy authority. Both women would be alive if they just calmed down and cooperated with the police.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    So sad??

  • BTweekin

    She Was Loading One On Her Instagram Two Weeks Ago. That Might Be It. Her IG Is @Shesyourmajesty It's Still Public.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    He knew she was crazy and the situation would not end well.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Okayyyyy
    ?????

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    She had to be. She kept saying they were stealing her car. They gave her lots of chances and she just didn't get it. She probably should've been put on a psychiatric hold then.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Some people are allergic to facts...

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Some people are allergic to facts...

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    I disagree. I think Sandra Bland was murdered.

    This chick was either mental or brainwashed.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    I disagree. I think Sandra Bland was murdered.

    This chick was either mental or brainwashed.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    This woman is disturbing. I get being black and afraid but this wasn't even that. Something was obviously wrong with her. I read on some other sites about she had lead poisoning that could explain why she was like she was.

    Sandra Bland I'm not going to compare the two. Sandra's is still questionable to me especially after watching 16 minutes of Korryn. It's all too much.

  • BTweekin

    Her Instagram Is Still Public. BTW Cops Usually Tell Facebook To Deactivate Accounts During Hostage Situations, Because Their Followers Sometimes Egg Them On & It Makes It Difficult For The Negotiators. A Lot Of Times They Don't Let Them Speak To Relatives Either, Because That Also Can Set A Person Off More Being That Negotiators Won't Risk A Relative To Go In & Talk To Them If A Hostage Taker Was To Ask & A Trained Negotiator Will Never Flat Out Tell A HT No & Knows HT's Use Hostages As A Form Of Power.

  • BTweekin

    Word!

  • Soon2BWife

    Black people are which is why we will continue to have a difficult time progressing. Anyone defending this behavior in the presence of her child is sick.

  • whitty hutton

    Not allergic to facts...simply saying I'd like to hear from someone besides the police that she possessed and fired a shotgun at them. As crazy as she was, one would think she would've showed it in the instagram vid. Clearly she did nothing to help herself in this situation but I'm a stickler for facts from all sides of the situation.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    Shut up

  • whitty hutton

    Just saw ur reply. Ok, thanks for the info. I'm not on instagram or anything else so if it's not published on a mainstream news site, I wouldn't know. Thanks again.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Ohh damn, a lead paint baby. explains it..police need hire a staff of therapist to be in rhe scene. Jesus this is horrible.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    I'll wait till all the facts come out.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Chile take this vid down. Her mother should have put her in a mental facilty. PERIOD

  • BTweekin

    You're Welcome! You Can Still View Public Instagram Pages Even If You Don't Have One. Some Sites Posted The Video. Search "Korryn Gaines: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know" Heavy . com

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    You are too kind. Nor do I but you apparently have common sense.

  • AnniA

    Why?? I am sick of defending a movement that folks are taking advantage of. She used her son as a shield this time and as an attack dog prior. Either she was going to get killed or her son was going to have a hashtag in 10 years. Yeah, cops are using black people for shooting practice, but if this is common knowledge, why test your limits? We keep mentioning all the blacks getting killed by cops, but what about all the cops that were just killed? Just like we are on high alert, they are too.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Call me crazy, but their is power in the tongue. She continued to speak death over her life. So sad....

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    ?????

  • Alicia.Ashe

    You don't have enough brain power to comprehend what BLM is about. Continue sitting in a corner eating crayons.

  • Soon2BWife

    They go have to kill me.
    ------------------------
    The Universe answered.
    This is what happens when you learn activism from youtbe.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    I said all this below and Bren TRIED to clap with fat hands...she probably saud she had assult rifles. Lord, glad child is alive, and this sheds Some light why the punk male ran.

  • AnniA

    Says the person who is insulting a perfect stranger on a blog. I have donated close to 15k to the movement, marched here in Atlanta and provided food and water to other protesters. You see, my support goes far beyond sitting on a blog hurling insults due to a case of "twitter fingas" ...put your money where your mouth is or stfu. ???

  • Alicia.Ashe

    I would like to hear from someone other than the police also about there being a shotgun.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    A liar too.

  • Soon2BWife

    That right there broke my entire heart. Saw his innocence literally slipping away.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Gaines was stopped when patrol officers noticed a rectangular piece of cardboard with the words "Free Traveler" in place of her license plate.
    --------------------

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-korryn-gaines-tuesday-20160802-story.html

  • Soon2BWife

    Both, youtube sends mentally ill people off.

  • AnniA

    Activism from Youtube...please coin that phrase

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    There are so many questions here. Nothing makes any sense.

  • Rahab

    Meanwhile, it's unconstitutional to seek the death penalty against Killer Dylan!

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    But u need more answrs.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    There are questions here like why they shut down social media. She was actually talking to her mom on FB at the time and her mom her the boyfriend asking her to stop.

    Every instance doesn't have to be a BLM movement. Sometimes even with questions there is justification. This one while I'm side eyeing it, seeing her own video of how she behaved previously has me concerned.

    That boyfriend of hers knew what was up that's why he ran but he should've taken both kids with him.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    There is power in the tongue. She spoke death over her life. She spoke death in front of her children over her life.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    It's a difficult video to watch.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I'm not doubting her mental instability. The sad part is, I did a nervous chuckle when I read this like 'you so crazy'.?

    With the current climate, all bases need to be covered. People probably still won't be happy be this one doesn't seem so far fetched anymore.

  • rayne215

    this young lady seemed extremely irrational and tortured. Even her traffic stop drama couldve been avoided. shame poor kids. RIP

  • bella28498 .

    I'm still not convinced why she had to be murdered by the police....

  • Alicia.Ashe

    What?

  • bella28498 .

    White cops are acting like bounty hunters and violating all of our constitutional rights.... Clive Bundy and a band of armed white men took over a federal building for months and no one was killed.

  • Li

    That sovereign movement from what I read is mainly white, I didn't know black people bought into it. But obviously yes.

  • Li

    That was Federal. This is local. There's a difference.

  • Li

    Suicide by cop?

  • bella28498 .

    Plz stfu talking to me....

  • Alicia.Ashe

    She didn't. Having her skin color is more than likely to happen.

  • bella28498 .

    I have no words for anyone who is a suspected white supremacist

  • Li

    What's sad is that her little boy is in the car. The police have been warned about these sovereign people. They know what they're up against. I didn't know black people bought into it.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The facts are in my post.

  • LeBrick James

    "Her mother should have put her in a mental facility."
    ====
    I agree. Recognition -- and treatment -- of mental illness is severely lacking in our communities. Too many times we act like that's just a "white people" thing.
    But there's a lot of mentally ill folk among our own people, and too many times their family members & friends just overlook it...until it's too late.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The facts are in the post. I think what you're looking for is proof that fits your narrative that she was unjustly executed by the police.

  • bella28498 .

    Going forward I have no conversation for any suspected white supremacist or coons.... U will be blocked.

  • BTweekin

    Read About The Ruby Ridge Incident. Read It In Wiki. Its More Detailed. One Of The Reasons Timothy McVeigh Blew Up The OKC Building.

  • Li

    I don't know Sandra....I like that you call it "emotional" issues....What's happening with our young people is they're buying into all the garbage on the internet about authority and police and what to do/not to do when arrested. They're listening to a lot of wrong-headed rappers. Not a week goes by when I don't hear somebody in a car playing some loud-as s lewd angry rap music.
    They're brainwashed with A lot of shyt that's getting them killed.

    How come my young neighbors in my building don't get stopped by the police? Because they go to church, they go to school, they listen to their parents, and they do the right things.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    No they are not.

  • bella28498 .

    Until I am shown a video to back these white cops claim I don't believe them.... We have video footage of cops murderinh civilians but we shouldn't believe the video footage but they want is to take their word ??? naw

  • rayne215

    that crossed my mind. was she depressed? if i have a warrant and they catch me, im going with cops. if i fight back im gonna assume i dont care about my life. bottom line is, most people wouldnt act that irrationally

  • Li

    IMO the son is better without her. He's probably with another family member with some sense.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Her son was terrified of her. Poor thing. Thank god he won't remember any of this when he grows up.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Lol. shooting at the cops isn't a justifiable reason?

  • rayne215

    i think he will remember, 5 is that age you can look back on somethings. poor thing.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Did an autopsy verify she had lead poisoning? There you go ignoring the facts and running with wild rumors.

  • rayne215

    point them out

  • Melissaisasnob

    This is a case of how the internet and knowledge and stories found on the internet are not beneficial to everyone. Not everyone can handle the knowledge that they come into contact with on the internet. It is too much and throws them over the bend. She probably stayed a little too long at Reddit or other forums that made her feel like she really could fine a police officer. Poor child. They are going to have to update the DSM and include something about how the internet makes people believe......what is it called when people get tough after drinking too much?

  • Melissaisasnob

    I do feel like their 4th Amendment rights were violated. Cops have become so wussy. What happened to the days when cops and people with warrants played a game of cat and mouse? Those were the days. When you knew you had a warrant and everyone in your family distracted the cops while you got out of the house over the back fence and down the streets. And the cops having to become more and more creative. Now the lazy b@stards have the landlords handing them keys. I guess real creative police work is out of the question, interferes with them harassing the Pokemon Go Offies down at the Marina.

  • Jayde da Blade

    a traffic warrant and a domestic warrant. and she is dead.
    why go into ppls homes.
    this was senseless.
    killing her was wrong.

  • baby einstein

    Dont let them shit you up preach some mo!

  • baby einstein

    That would be you twiddle dee sitting in a corner not doing shit

  • baby einstein

    Stfu

  • baby einstein

    Yoi aint hearing shit be mad

  • eljjai

    You are a mess. Get yourself together or someone else will. E-Marching up and down, insulting people because you think you are more "down" for the cause than them. I'd rather have an intellectual like AnniA for the cause than some trigger happy e-thug like you,

  • Alicia.Ashe

    I don't discuss black issues with white folk. Move along.

  • eljjai

    Another black woman senselessly laying her life on the line for no damn reason. Til Black women learn it's gonna be pen season on you too.

  • Molly Church

    Mental Illness is "Real?. God bless Anyone willing 2 play Russian roulette with their lives on a daily basis. God knows the world has gone "MAD".

  • magical radical

    Your story is wrong because even the police have stated they shot at her first. That fact is everywhere, yet you state she fired first. Deliberate misinformation as usual. Our people forget that Gestapo were "police" too and will gladly continue to subjugate their own rights to a system designed to kill them. Continue to be well behaved and hope that by ultimate assimilation you can achieve acceptance by this devilish system based and built on genocide. This young lady chose the ultimate sacrifice, to be a martyr, but I guess you have to be white, in order to be celebrated for choosing death before dishonor.

  • AnniA

    It truly should not be an argument. I watched the videos, and read the entire story on multiple outlets before commenting so I would not be inclined to become outraged w/o somewhat understanding what transpired between this young lady and the police. The videos are truly disturbing..she was essentially emotionally and mentally abusing her poor son. The police are being far more patient with her than I have witnessed in the past, even given her one last option to walk home; she decided that her SM fame was more important. Meanwhile, when she said that she does not have to abide by the laws of the land and that the police had no authority over her, one must ask, who she called to press charges against the man who beat her? Again, this is tragic for so many reasons, but due too recent events, my outrage over such situations is damn there depleted...gotta preserve what's left for when it's truly needed.

  • Annette

    Allegedly was never used in your post. It should have been as a journalist or blogger. You didn't have firsthand knowledge.

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    Now Sandra

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    I have the biggest issue with him. Running like a coward. He should have been able to disarm her or talk her down from the ledge.

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    Ok, assuming that I agree with everything you said. What solutions do you propose?

  • T’acheItEzeOhNoUDidn’t

    This entire situation is just sad and unfortunate. Her cousin on IG (anthiauniquee) said that yes, she had a gun and she was prepared, but the cops shot first and she returned fire. She has since posted a video of Korryn's son Kodi in the hospital, he is recovering fine PHYSICALLY, but I don't know what the baby is going through Mentally. Just sad! R.I.P. Korryn Shandawn Gaines.

  • whitty hutton

    Awwww Sandra, stop it. I don't look at your posts as the end all be all for FACTUAL information. I stated that I wanted FACTS from other sources besides the police. But I digress...you're just an entertainment blogger, I don't come here for Pulitzer prize-winning journalism.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    Learn what? Please enlighten this black woman.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    .....

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Good Day Magic - So she a martyr? Of what? What did she achieve? What sbput her children? Her family.

    I've been pulled over for speeding,dead tags, break light, driving too slow on icy road....at least 20 times. 4 decades speaking, 2 of driving. I Will Not give, the man, SATAN OR gestapo the joy.

    My son, husband mother, siblings, FAMILY and few friends, would be devasted. Arguring with on duty, lisensced to shoot and kill person aint my thang. Stay Black, and Alive

  • http://yeuphonic.com @yeuphonic

    You had a point until you actually thought any of those things you mentioned prevents other good black boys or men or women from being stopped by police. That's just plain ol stupid generalizations that fit a pro blue narrative but not reality.

  • http://yeuphonic.com @yeuphonic

    You had a point until you actually thought any of those things you mentioned prevents other good black boys or men or women from being stopped by police. That's just plain ol stupid generalizations that fit a pro blue narrative but not reality.

  • yoni

    It's probably been said before AND I haven't read too much on this story and I've only seen ONE (maybe two) videos and I haven't read THIS particular write-up. But, in viewing the video where the cop was standing there and she was zooming the camera in on the cop........I just want to know, HOW was she able to hold her son, a gun AND zoom the camera on her phn in at the same time? QTNA

  • yoni

    It's probably been said before AND I haven't read too much on this story and I've only seen ONE (maybe two) videos and I haven't read THIS particular write-up. But, in viewing the video where the cop was standing there and she was zooming the camera in on the cop........I just want to know, HOW was she able to hold her son, a gun AND zoom the camera on her phn in at the same time? QTNA

  • http://yeuphonic.com @yeuphonic

    His defense lawyers are arguing that the death penalty itself is unconstitutional and no one should get it.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    OK thanks for answering. He deserves it though.

  • http://yeuphonic.com @yeuphonic

    These people reveal their true ..ahem...colors when tragedy happens don't they. What is that fool talking about anyway? Pen season? Did the fool mean penitentiary or open season? Idiot doesn't even realize it's always been open season and mass incarceration on us right along with black men. Meanwhile the catalyst for this was due to her much older, predatorial, abusive, live in boyfriend abd traffic violations...smh

  • http://yeuphonic.com @yeuphonic

    Girl the same way a single shooter 'triangulated' rifle sniper fire then ran to kill a cop on camera with a gun, then ran to a garage, barricaded himself and was killed by a bomb with no video, or audio ever released to corroborate the official story.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Glad we are still here. Couple of things as I read different reports on this.

    As a mother, I'm hella upset she got her 5 yo involved in this. I have memories as early as 4. He will remember this. He was also told the first incident and it was picked up on recording, to bite the police. He will remember that too.

    Second issue and it's been reported by some of the folks who follow her, people on Facebook, peoole of damn color, were telling her to NOT comply when she got killed. All this talk of comply to stay alive in recent national events, but gonna tell her to NOT comply? Fukkin why????

    I'm wait for rest to come out. But those two items done totally pissed me at 730 am this morning

  • mela.reign77

    I finally had the opportunity to hear somewhat of what transpired with this young lady yesterday. I will start by saying that I feel that there were some issues with this young woman and she did not trust cops or the government as a matter of fact. I do think that she could have handled things a little differently if not for her sake by the sake of her son. Now in regards to the cops I feel that they went about deescalating this issue all wrong. I still think and feel in my heart that every single cop should be retrained. Their objective is to kill the suspect or said suspect with no remorse. You get a key and come into my home with guns pointed at me how do you expect someone to act. They've invested all of this money into these body cameras that they don't wear, or only works when it's convenient for them (cops). I pray that the family of this young have a real conversation with her little boy and get him all the help that he needs. This is a horrific event that took place and this baby is old enough to remember every detail so I can only imagine what his view on city and state officials would be moving forward. My prayers are with her family and friends and most of all her son. May the most high give him peace and cover him and his mind.

  • Li

    ^^ WTH?

  • mela.reign77

    In this case I would have to agree to disagree. I understand where you're coming from but I also feel that there are other ways to handle things. I think when we have other people depending on us we must make a fair and unselfish decision to make the best decision given the chance. I can only imagine what this young lady was feeling but in the same token it's clear that the police didn't give a rats behind about her son and at point she should have focused more on him, his livelihood and the circumstances surrounding the events before acting irrational. Now don't get me wrong the way that the cops handled the situation was WRONG, I'm not denying that but I wouldn't have given them a reason to shoot and kill me period. Heck most of the time you don't have to because they go in with the act already set forth. So knowing this I will have to say that I would rather walk out alive then be carried out in a bag. I have been put in many situations just throughout life where I had to weigh my options on matters that I thought were unfair. I had to think smart and look at the bigger picture and honestly this was not thought out. it breaks my hear to know that this young woman will not be able to raise her son but I will still stand behind the fact that she was not thinking clearly. She along with the police put him in a very unsafe situation and that is not fair to him or anybody else.

  • mela.reign77

    Right!!!!!!!!!!!! When I heard the full story or what was being said that is made me sick to my stomach on all accounts.

  • LeBrick James

    Yup. But too many of "us" have this mentality like:
    Police officer=automatically wrong no matter what.
    Black man/woman=automatically right no matter what.
    But the fact is, in these situations the black person is in the wrong sometimes. Some of us just don't want to hear that though.

  • Rahab

    The church killer is claiming death penalty unconstitutional and looking for life in prison instead of death penalty for killing 9 during bible study.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    This is just so sad. Why do all of that?

  • Incog-knee-gress

    The new keyword these days in light of events is to comply. I've heard comply/compliance more in the past few months than I have ever before in my damn LIFE @Mela. Why tell her to not comply? I'm totally stuck on THAT one deet. I'm praying that is not true. But her very own FB folks are saying, yes it is. I'm pissed at them. Yall in essence helped get this girl killed.

  • LeBrick James

    She essentially committed suicide by cop. If he knew she was unstable, and possibly even suicidal, I can kind of understand why he might decide escape with his life and take his daughter with him while he could. For all he knew, the cops/SWAT team could have barged in any moment and shot him and everybody in the house.
    Personally I'm not going to be too hard on him. We never know for sure how we'd handle a certain situation until we're actually in it.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I've ignored no facts at all. There are news outlets saying she has a pending lawsuit about leading poisoning. You can chose to not mention it in your writeup that is your choice.

  • mela.reign77

    I know it's just pure evil. When I read that part this morning I was like this can't be true. Maybe I am reading this wrong, I thought. Why on earth would they tell her not to comply with the cops. Yes it has me in a bad space right now.

  • LeBrick James

    They might be getting that from your own writeup Sandra:

    "WBAL-TV reports that Gaines filed several lawsuits against landlords after she was exposed to a “sea of lead” in lead-contaminated apartments, that may have caused brain damage."

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Don't get me wrong. Cops got blood on their hands too. They did mad shyt wrong. They didn't have to kill her. And I read they didn't let her mother try to talk to her

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-korryn-gaines-tuesday-20160802-story,amp.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

  • mela.reign77

    Nope they did not, let her mom talk to her that is. In most hostage negotiations they will look for someone close to you that can bring you out or calm you down. The whole thing is senseless and make me so upset.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    If that's indeed the case then turning off her social media makes more sense. Did you see any of the video I posted? Her happy meal was missing a few items. That's the last person you want to tell to go off the rails. They did help get her killed if that's what people were telling her.

  • Renee26

    We know the boyfriend was a coward...he was running due to a warrant for BEATING on her...ummmm how much more of a coward can a man be.....considering her distrust of the system he probably beat her pretty bad for her to even call the police for help.

  • LeBrick James

    Second issue and it's been reported by some of the folks who follow her, people on Facebook, people of damn color, were telling her to NOT comply when she got killed. All this talk of comply to stay alive in recent national events, but gonna tell her to NOT comply?
    ====
    These people are just keyboard warriors.... .sitting in the comfort of their basement. It's easy to tell people to "fight the power" when the SWAT team is not outside YOUR front door.
    Just shows how we gotta be careful about what voices we listen to, or allow to influence us.

  • Renee26

    He's a woman beating punk...he could have taken the boy too if he was trying to be a hero....he was trying to save his own azz and avoid going to jail

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    That negro who ran out the house should've grabbed the little boy too. He knowdeded what he was dealing with.

  • Miany

    bish azz step daddy can manage to take his child but he left the Lil boy there to get shot? I ain't too much mad that he ran, if he felt the situation was unsafe for children, he should have ran with both.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    I did. I'm glad you posted it. Folks saying well that could have been altered.

    Not everything is a conspiracy theory folks. I'm sorry this happened. I truly am. A kid is pure involved. But not everything is a conspiracy. A lot is. I'm leaning towards this is not the case this time tho.

  • yoni

    Yep, kinda what I figured. LOL When will these "black cop killers" ever get their day in court?

  • SameoleJ

    No they aren't . You need to CUT IT!! Seriously

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I agree. I doubtful it's a conspiracy this time too. Her behavior throughout that entire video. She's not rationale the whole video. They give her lots of chances. Ma'am just get out with your kids and walk home.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    The little boy was in the car that day and right there when they killed her. At 5 he's going to think everything was the cops fault. He's going to need some very good counselling for a long time.

  • EXECUTIVE LURKER

    Not mention they all had automatic weapons...pointed at the Police.

  • SameoleJ

    Her son wasn't a hostage!! Da Heyul!

  • LeBrick James

    Meanwhile the catalyst for this was due to her much older, predatorial, abusive, live in boyfriend and traffic violations...smh
    ====
    Yeah I was noticing that about the boyfriend. He's 39, she's 23. That 16 yr age gap makes me wonder a little bit about his role in all this, and his influence over her behavior... especially being that he had a warrant on him for domestic violence against her. He might have been one of those controlling, abusive types of dudes.

  • LeBrick James

    I still remember some things from when i was 3. He will remember this. His family just needs to make sure he gets proper counseling and therapy so he wont be too damaged by all this.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    She kept saying the boy wanted to stay. Something tells me she made him leave the boy. Under duress he left him. More of: you can take the girl, but he stays here. We don't know tho. Never will

  • SameoleJ

    Peeks in and back out I go!! Can someone send me a Bat Signal when it is okay to come in?

    Parting Words: If I hear one more person with that "Should have complied" mess!! Blacks have been complying FOREVER and it still got us beat, shot, raped, killed.........funny how the only reason we have rights today is because those people STOPPED COMPLYING, as that didn't insure them safety. Do I think violence is the best option? No, but simply sitting there and complying to ANY AND EVERYTHING will only place us back in shackles. There is a new (but old) tactic at play- SCARE TACTICS and the best way to get that message across is to show that no gender in the black race is safe: Men, Women and Children are expendable.

    Everybody have a good one, cause um yeah....plenty of crazy or sane, white folks who DID NOT comply are still alive to talk about it!!

  • LeBrick James

    Boom. There you go. I just stay as polite as possible, keep my hands where they can see them, and come home safely to my family.

    I'm not trying to get turned into a #hashtag.

  • whitty hutton

    That is also why the police contacted Facebook to disable the account...and I agree. Why people would tell her not to comply is beyond comprehension.

  • Miany

    This young lady, may she rip is one case..stop bringing up Sandra Bland just for blog hits man....that's disgusting that as a black woman in America you really can't empathize with the fact that unarmed Sandra Bland walked into a jail & got rolled out. Don't worry though, regardless of the anti-black retoric you're spewing... if the cops ever kill your submissive, republican behind (god forbid) we will STILL stand for you. That's cuz no matter your view, we recognize your right to have it and we recognize the lawsame duty to protect you. Sandra Bland had the right to be emotional, booked and released...somehow she never made it to the release step. would Alton Sterling & Mr. Castille be alive if they just cooperated?

  • whitty hutton

    Zackly. But you're a "new Negro" or "slaveminded" if you don't buy into the LITERALLY "fight the power" mentality. There are more intelligent methods of effecting permanent change...defying and fighting with police ain't one of em.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    I'm not gonna watch but it sounds like she was brainwashed into her beliefs ?

  • Miany

    yeah I know but...if he down to mollywap her on a regular day (alleged dv warrant) than surely he could knock her azz down & grab the kid....I just have a feeling that if it were his son, kid would've Neva got shot.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    I counted at least 3 chances

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Ok Agreed but the sad reality of it is that we don't have the luxury of not complying and things ending well

    Now, let's go eat some powdered donuts :D

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Over a dead tags charge. I woulda took my kids and employed Pat and Charlie. I've had to leave a car parked before. Leave that car. It's not important

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Bring me back a donut.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I don't think this is about complying. Something in her milk was off.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Add in boys and their mothers. Welp he may have wanted to stay. Then add a pinch of cray cray and cops and unfortunately here we are.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    This situation reminds me of several Ignant convos with two people I know who claim to be Moors?? They talk like they know the law and this and that...

    They didn't even know their History, BUTT EYE DID ????

    This is not against all Moors, just my two idiot frens ? (Tight smile)

  • SameoleJ

    We don't have a luxury PERIOD!! And I am going to eat french toast, with extra cinnamon, so they can be really dark!!

    Talk to you later, if a less infuriating post goes up. I can't with this one.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    ?Im walking so I may eat yournS ??

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Her own bf told her through the door to comply and come on out. Her own mother said she should have.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    I want Some! *bams fork*
    Ready!

    SYL (see yew latah) ?

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Y'all know how I feel about 5-0. I couldn't even watch the video. I've been pulled over with the kids in the car. Cop asked where I was going, gave me a warning and sent me packing. While I think complying don't necessarily mean living, this was one of those times where it was doing too much.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    This too.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    One of the officers indicated she didn't live that far away from where they were. She kept indicating they were going to be kidnapped and the car stolen. It's like reality was missing. The look in her eyes when she was sitting there fixing her hair was scary for me.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Well I said it. Compliance. Sorry if I'm one of the ones who pissed you off with that viewpoint

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Bring back 2 dozen. You'll only eat 1 or 2 donuts before you call me to pick you up cause you tieeeeddd.

  • whitty hutton

    I don't have an issue with him leaving. SHE made a choice and he made a choice. Who made the wise choice and lives to tell the story AND raise his daughter?

  • Pootietang

    There was nothing wrong with her. That girl had an old soul. I thought yall was describing one of my grandmas. This sound like a story from back in the day before" they" got control of everything.

  • Karma WhO

    The mother says I think she needs guidance.......
    Uhhh ur her MOM, the guidance she initially needed came from You, DUMBASS!

  • Pootietang

    He know she was telling the truth. But he dont think like her. She preferred not to run from the police. Who made them bosses over us??

  • Spidey Sensitive

    ??

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    It's sad to see we're still in here defending this woman's actions for putting her son's life in danger. Korryn is just like Sandra Bland. The cop approached Sandra's car peacefully, but she escalated the situation, just like Korryn. WE are our own worst enemies -- not the cops or white people.

  • KB

    Unfortunately, that is also what I'm gathering from all the information out there & comments from family and associates.

  • yoni

    Sandra Rose, I will say Sandra Bland did NOT create that situation. She was looking forward. He asked her was she irritated and she said yes. This was right before he handed her the ticket. Then he asked her to step out of the car. Why? Especially when he was about to give her the ticket and she could have been well on her way. WHY did he need for her to step out of the car? THEN he lied (on tape following the incident) and said "she had an attitude and wouldn't give me eye contact." So that's the reason she had to "step out of the car?" Then what happens after she complies and steps out of the car? She was going to be arrested for having an attitude? Or not making eye contact? BOTH are not a reason to be asked to step out of your vehicle and CERTAINLY not a reason to be "arrested" and subsequently murdered.

    Is there a new post up?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    "WBAL-TV reports that Gaines filed several lawsuits against landlords after she was exposed to a “sea of lead” in lead-contaminated apartments, that may have caused brain damage.

    But in a deposition given for one of the lawsuits, her mother said Gaines was simply hardheaded and refused to listen to authority."

    Wait a minute. Lead was banned from paint in the 1980s-over 30 years ago so why was there lead paint in her apartment?

    “She didn’t want to listen. She has poor decision making skills. I think she needs guidance,” her mother said.

    Those are symptoms of lead poisoning.

  • whitty hutton

    If she joined that sovereign citizens bs then she was brainwashed. They're nothing but a bunch of squatters and thieves who tie up the legal system with frivolous lawsuits. Hard working folks spend lots of money and sometimes a few years getting them out of their property. I've seen it firsthand on several occasions.

  • Spidey Sensitive

    I wish you would stop with the Sandra Bland comparison. You aren't winning any hearts in this blog (I know it's your blog, but still) with that stance and the situations are so drastically different that it screams false equivilancy.

    We can agree to respectfully disagree with each other but I think you are so far off the rails with this one it isn't even funny.

  • Vanity86

    The boyfriend is forever a loser. How you grab the daughter and run??? What kind of man are you? You left her to battle the police on your behalf dude?? May she haunt you FO-EVA!
    Sad she lost her life. Wish that wasn't the outcome. Glad her son is alive. Peace to her friends and family.

  • Let Your Soul Glow

    Is there any update on the boy's condition? Is he stable? Still critical?

    O/T (because this situation has my heart hurting): I hope IG's new faux Snapchat means I can stop looking at girls in that damn flower headband. it was cute at first, but now, not so much.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    I just watched the video B. Sweet posted. That was traumatic even for me. I can't.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    wh: I don't come here for Pulitzer prize-winning journalism

    Well damn!!!

  • yoni

    It's sad to see we're still in here
    ____________________________
    I agree. LOL YOU got the juice, Sandra. YOU hold the key to make that change. YOU can give us free. Do the right thing.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Right and the police NEVER, ever lie./sarc

  • lil goodie

    But y not take both kids.... poor baby. .R.I.P.

  • LibraGirlonly

    This woman was mentally ill and it seems like the story is trying to make her look like she just didn't want to listen to authority but I beg to differ. Something was seriously wrong mentally. If she were white she would have be taken to the hospital but since she was black they killed her.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Now I want french toast. SMH. *Stares at bowl of oatmeal*

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    New post. Doom and gloom.

  • Mystery User

    There are several Sovereigns and Ex Pats that go along living life and don't end up in a mess like this...
    Pick your battles...

  • BTweekin

    Her Son Became A Hostage As Soon As She Refuse To Go To Jail & Held Him As A Shield Not To Go, With A Shotgun Next To Her Telling Police She Would Kill Them.

  • Mystery User

    Youtube is a haven for the mentally ill...and immature

  • LibraGirlonly

    We need to find out the truth first. The police can't be trusted what part if that don't you understand?

  • LibraGirlonly

    Girl I'm with you!!

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Her own mother said that she had issue with authority tho. As part of a court record. I also have read that her father was previously a police dispatcher. You have all of these issues with the law but the law used to put food on your table. This whole case has me stumped

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    New post.

  • Mystery User

    The laws are still very gray when it comes to committing someone for mental illness... yes you have to be a threat to yourself or others, but if it is not clear and concise, you can find yourself with a lawsuit.
    In this ladies case, talking shit and filing lawsuits don't count as institution worthy. the gun situation, yes, but by then - it's too late!

  • SpillyNillie

    Ok...so the police couldn't see that there was clearly a mental defect at work here? They couldn't exit the home and come up with a more tactical plan? They've removed serial killers with less force.

    BTW: Why were they allowed to enter her home with a key? Is that permitted?

  • EXECUTIVE LURKER

    Police have stun grenades, taser grenades, sleeping gas grenades. If they had used anyone of these this would have been over in less than an hour with no one killed and no child would have been shot.

    Instead they chose to escalate this situation. She was Anti-Police..Anti-Government. This is something the Police already knew, they had her file and documentation of her previous encounter.

    Her beliefs were Anti Government Like the Armed Anti-Government protesters that had taken over a building in the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon, police used all kinds of creative ways to coax those people out who had automatic weapons pointed at law enforcement. Those people and their children walked away with their lives. Key word here.....law enforcement were" non-confrontational"

    Case in Point ...Dylan Roof of the Carolina Church Mass Shooting and James Holmes of the Batman Movie mass shooting, these people had bodies piled up, NOT TRAFFIC WARRANTS...and they walked away with their lives.

    Regardless of the many other means at their disposale to use to de-escalate a situation where an individual is already paranoid of government and a child was envolved they chose to shoot to kill...and for added measure put a bullet in her son.

    - Lurker

  • Mystery User

    You do not have to be a professional to state the obvious.

  • whitty hutton

    Mental health counselors and negotiators were on hand trying to diffuse the situation but she would not surrender.

  • LibraGirlonly

    They didn't care enough about this young lady because she is black make no mistake about that. Black lives don't matter to them.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Where did you see mental health counselors were on the scene?

  • EXECUTIVE LURKER

    Let the Church say Amen

  • LibraGirlonly

    She still shouldn't have ended up dead.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Thank you!!

  • LibraGirlonly

    Exactly!!!

  • LibraGirlonly

    I see a lot of people cooning in here.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Lotta places. This is from The Washington Post

    Police retreated to the hallway and began an “hours-long dialogue” with Gaines, Johnson said. Trained negotiators, mental health counselors and Gaines’s father all were summoned to talk her out of the apartment.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Yes I will always give the police the side eye yep sure will.

  • Mystery User

    it probably wasn't his kid...

  • rodt

    Potie Stop trripping, You follow the law life is straight, you dont, you get problems like this

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Right
    FOH to the bs??

  • SpillyNillie

    So on point! It makes absolutely no sense why they couldn't defuse this situation without shooting this girl. I've said in a previous post, law enforcement DOES NOT FUGG with those anti-government, gun-totting mountain men. And when they do, they always come correct. Now why is that?

  • RespectSelf

    This story is really sad all the way around. The fact that people even have to question the government is a problem. It makes it unsafe for everyone.

    On a side note, she was a pretty girl. Who went too hard!

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Thank you.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    This goes back to the point where we need to not be ashamed of metal health issues. They are real.

  • Vanity86

    Dear momma, if she had poor decision making skills, when the children was released to you before, why you sent them back to her? Oh gosh!!!! I don't want to judge anyone or talk out of turn but my gosh!!!! For her son to even have to experience that! Or her daughter waking up without her mom this morning just saddens me. Peace!!!! I pray for peace for those babies.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Would you please stop with the Sandra Bland stuff? This is totally and completely not like that.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Because black lives don't matter. My cousin was stopped by the thug police and the guy had a straight up attitude because her headlight was out. She gave him her ID and he saw she was a nurse then he calmed his white ass down. She said he was almost snarling at her while her child was in the car. They have been killing us for centuries and anyone (black) defending their bull sheit is crazy.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Right. Butttt IF find ah bench underneath ah tree.... Just coming looking for meh ??

  • SpillyNillie

    Sandra, you know damn well...

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    RACES FRANCH TOEST ????

  • Elle

    My heart bleeds for those poor kids..especially the son because he is a little older and will probably carry this experience throughout life. Lord only knows what foolishness those kids saw and went through on a regular basis. Mental illness is no joke. Just so sad.

  • rampage jackson

    It was reported she had lead poisoning as a child, so of course she was mentally unstable.

  • TOO REAL

    Why do you constantly have to bring out the people that are killed past and not the police officers. I would like to see his school records. How many fights was he in as a teenager and what nationality were the opponents? If we are going to tell history on one why not both or not at all.

  • whitty hutton

    It's also SOP in hostage / standoff situations.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Only if you promise to pick up my plain (read: glazed) yeast donuts.

  • Mystery User

    Because they know the law and know how to fight the law...and besides - for every 1 of them there's probably 2 waiting to snipe your ass out. They are typically hunters and well versed in the art of the kill.

  • Mystery User

    Because they know the law and know how to fight the law...and besides - for every 1 of them there's probably 2 waiting to snipe your ass out. They are typically hunters and well versed in the art of the kill.

  • EXECUTIVE LURKER

    They could have just left, and picked her up at work when she was totally off guard. Police absolutely knew from research and case history how to NOT provoke those who are Paranoid Anti-Government.

    They knew what they were doing would set her off.Tigger more of her paranoia

  • Emdiva

    This is what I'm thinking. If the boy isn't his child he probably figured trying to take the child with him would've possibly set her off even more.

  • Genia

    whether the masses separate in opinions on this being justifiable or not justifiable....doesn't answer the questions of why couldn't this be de-escalated? We know it can be done. We have seen it. This woman had a documented fear of police..was her fear or concern beyond that of any other black person today witnessing video taped murder...continuously? ...She was teaching her babies this concern/fear....she armed herself because of this fear...at the end of the day...her offence? she was a habitual TRAFFIC violator. ....WHY did she have this fear? Her several videos of police encounters, the militarized police being in her living room in full gear, did she have reasonable fear and concern for her life? The media has begun to demonize her. Korryn Gaines put her money where her mouth was at the end of the day. She was not FB revolutionary...she was going to be a part of the revolution...on the ground ...ready. #RIP #KorrynGaines

  • O.O

    I don't think you're getting that this young woman was all kinds of crazy . I'm pretty sure he would not have been able to disarm her

  • O.O

    The girl was mentally ill . She can't be used as an example. Who drives around with cardboard plates on their car with a statement? Crazy people do.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Agreed ?

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Agreed ?

  • Doink_Ahanahue

    So someone who her own mother said did not want to listen to authority, that DECIDED it was smart to drive w/o insurance or license, challenge and ultimately taunt police officers during the traffic stop, insight her child to bite an officer, now has one of her children in mortal danger now is suddenly going to listen to reason??!! REALLY?! And in addition, reason from the man who is allegedly physically harming her?
    And he's supposed to disarm a crazy person?
    He is most definitely a coward for putting his hands on a woman (I am a man and have NEVER done so), but what of this woman's brief history here makes you think anyone would have been able to help her?

  • whitty hutton

    I respect your opinion and agree somewhat. Her fear was irrational imo and heightened by her association with the sovereign citizen crazies...hence riding around with that cardboard tag on her car and filing frivolous lawsuits. Those sovereign citizen folks are crazy and belligerent as hell thinking they shouldn't have to pay for housing, taxes, vehicle registrations, etc. and most if them will die for those beliefs.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I hope this woman was mentally ill. I saw the video of her getting pulled over and it seemed like she was trying to provoke the officers. I saw the shotgun video last night too. Now the video with her son is heartbreaking. Im sorry when/if (praying) I become a mom I would never ever put my child in a situation that would cause them harm. She was thoughtless and seemed to be itching for a fight. Self-proclaimed martyr with delusions of grandeur. BLM loses steam because of people like her who do things for attention and glorification..... IMO

  • Lovelove

    Every case needs to be examined individually and in this case, she seemed to be very unstable and under the influence of that older man and probably other things. No hashtag here, unless #mentalillnessisREAL

  • Doink_Ahanahue

    They are not BOSSES, but enforcers of law. The laws were put in place by the Government. There always have been, are and always will be rules no matter what. You have rules in your house or car, people have personal rules. Own your own business - rules to follow, work for someone else - rules to follow.

    What she did was show a full and blatant disregard for authority. Remember what her own mother said: "her mother said Gaines was simply hardheaded and refused to listen to authority.

    “She didn’t want to listen. She has poor decision making skills. I think she needs guidance,” her mother said."

    "A hard head makes a soft behind" when you're a kid. It's MUCH worse as an adult

  • Lovelove

    If you're telling the truth ( we'll never know), but if you are: Hats off to you! Real action!

  • Genia

    i can see this being an opinion most will have. and your statements validly support this opinion. I don't know that sovereign citizens are crazy and belligerent...I also don't know that their beliefs or non beliefs in the law are inaccurate. This is the difference between living in the matrix and not living in the matrix. If an american citizen wanted to really dig down into the constitution and the letter of the law, you would be bewildered to see exactly what "LAWS" you follow that are not true "laws".

  • Lovelove

    Why not? Everyone needs to hear the issues. You're obviously an under developed short thinking person, so yeah... Don't discuss.

  • Lovelove

    You would be RIGHT.

  • Doink_Ahanahue

    Uh, take a moment, read the write up carefully, meditate, come back and make an educated comment.

  • Lovelove

    I did the same, minus the video. I smelled mental illness, but wanted more information.

  • EXECUTIVE LURKER

    If so they were incompetent.Keep in mind a Press Release from the Police is going to present a narrative the puts them in best light.There is often alot bent facts, and mis-truths For example Police Press Releases defended the Rodney King Beating.

    A trained negotiator would have told them to stand down and de-escalate. And use a ruse, and capture her when she was off guard. Like picking her up at work days later.

    Police have even used fake "You won a Sweepstake Lottery" to round up people with Warrants.

    Bottom line Police get a Hard on for Violence, a rush, its been described as an addictive feeling similar to being high.

    Its Sociopathic like a serial killer that gets a thrill from killing each victim. Couple that with deep seated Racism. These behaviors are part of the culture, some Departments are worse than others Baltimore and NYPD are amoungst the worst

  • Lovelove

    And that will trip us up every time.

  • Lovelove

    But the other sources may not provide FACTS. But I hear you.

  • AnniA

    Definitely telling the truth...my participation has put strain on not only business relationships, but personal relationships as well. I am disappointed because it exposed a lot of "fake" friends/associates, but happy that it happened. I just don't want everything that all blm supporters have done to be in vain. People truly are risking a lot to be part of the movement.

  • AnniA

    Definitely telling the truth...my participation has put strain on not only business relationships, but personal relationships as well. I am disappointed because it exposed a lot of "fake" friends/associates, but happy that it happened. I just don't want everything that all blm supporters have done to be in vain. People truly are risking a lot to be part of the movement.

  • Anonymouse

    You cannot negotiate with an unreasonable person. You just can't. The smartest thing he did was to bounce.

  • http://www.missjhaneuniverse.com Monday

    What was she trying to.accomplish?? Also that's her boyfriend?? could pass for her dad. Daddy issue relationship That turns into domestic violence... she was bossing the police like she pays them... she's no Rockefeller or Rothchild..she was doing it all wrong... plus two babies to feed...

    ??????? as I read

    R.I.P to her and I feel sad for the babies...

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I was TOO confused. I refreshed and a whole lot more posts came up. All of SandraRose post hadn't come up, the Daquan...you know what? It's too painful to even think about. I feel like breaking up with Daquan. :WAIL:

  • magical radical

    I propose that I teach my children this realm is one where we are destined to suffer to become greater and to live a life that reflect godly principles vs man-made ones. And as much as possible to not fear death in the pursuit of a life because that transition is destined just as birth and rebirth. To not live life as a coward by blindly following and defending an inherently evil system that has always and will always be designed to Kill people of color. I'm not saying I agree totally with this young ladies decisions but she was prepared to suffer the consequences of attempting to expose and withdraw from an unjust system and really walked the walk and accepted the consequence would be death. Just as all civil and human rights activists understand. It's not right but I do understand her courage and commitment. In all her videos she was never violent or the instigator but she knew that nonviolent noncooperative interactions with the system always leads to death but she chose to let those in power know their power meant nothing to her and all they could do was murder her body not her spirit.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    B. ? You know I did, right?
    ???

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    You know what? You and that dang Nan. See. ?...Let me not leave out PEP ?...

  • whitty hutton

    Respectfully agree to disagree. The Constitution was the basis for the governance of our country but there have been countless precedent-setting cases, legal opinions, congressional bills, etc. that are caveats to the Constitution. The law is interpretive based on which side makes the "better" (also subjective) argument. The Constitution not the sole document we are governed by in today's society, which is partly why I consider them crazy and belligerent. I've been in court with them and to see someone argue that they should be allowed to commandeer another person's vacant property without paying for it, file lawsuits over their refusal to pay vehicle registration, taxes, etc. is infuriating and a complete waste of the legal system's already stretched thin time and money imho.

    Glad we can have intelligent discourse without it being ugly and non-productive.

  • JerseyMom

    I only feel sorry for her children.

  • TDK

    1 error the police spokeswoman said their officer fired first; that he only shot once, and then she returned gun fire. ?? When have officers ever only fired once? ??

  • SameoleJ

    You aren't the only one saying this, as I have seen it said on FB. And no I am not pissed off by it, as you are entitled to it. However, having been one who complied (and even requested a supervisor to the scene), I can't just full out say JUST COMPLY. And I was the one who called the police to de-escalate a situation and got an Angry Black Woman with a chip on her shoulder because I was "some pretty, skinny black bitch" <----her exact words. Needless to say I don't rely on them anymore for assistance, after even the officers who were there and saw her attack me and not the other way around.......stood by as she charged me with 3 felonies (4 court dates, she showed up for two and the judge knowing she was lying and dropping the charges, but she faced no repercussions for lying). This is after 34 years of NO criminal record and only 3 traffic tickets (which were paid)---whole law abiding citizen. So NOPE, I will be the one to ask questions and still request a supervisor if I have to deal with them.......more than likely will tape it.

  • Genia

    I respect the dialogue. Thank you.

  • SameoleJ

    When was he a shield? The video I saw, he was sitting next to her, not on her lap.

  • SameoleJ

    Sorry, Love!!

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    That's what I was wondering. Why'd he leave the lil boy behind?

  • barbeez

    She was bat s!it crazy. I saw the videos. Feel sorry for the kids.

  • Alisa

    On her pages she talked about her King, her kids, and she was against church, police,etc. She had a crazy post regarding the 4th of July. 1 pic had a man & woman using the flag as toilet paper. She followed this guy who had all these guns & was teaching his kids how to hold them& they knew the name of every gun. She clearly taught her son the police are killers. She believed in the right to bear arms & protect your family. She had a license for the gun. She wrote about dying for the cause. She was a pretty young lady and her poems & wisdom had a beauty to it. I can't say if mental illness played a part but she was radical. The US Attorney got the warrant for her no show in court (video where she said they would hv to kill her) & the boyfriend had a warrant for assault charge. So 3 law enforcement officers went to serve the warrant. After she ignored them they got the key from mgmt. After they saw her w/ gun they called for swat. I hv a problem with the US Attorney using resources & time on a warrant for traffic violations. Also why not wait until she leaves the house? I think they were reckless. Then to ask for all her social media accounts to be suspended is a first amendment violation. She had every right to hv her side of the story told. I think her thoughts were that they were wrong to enter her home and she had the right to protect her child & herself from the police.(I'm not saying she was right) The son was from another guy and the daughter was by the guy that ran. Her actions were not smart but she held true to what she believed Her actions reflected everything she believed. She talked the talk & walked the walk. Sorry to be so long winded but these are just some of my thoughts I'm not saying I agree w/what she did but I feel from the beginning law enforcement based on her record should hv known approaching her the way they did was a recipe for disaster.

  • LibraGirlonly

    I agree with what you are saying. This woman needed help not a bullet. SMDH

  • dredmon

    While I would agree that he is a coward since he had a domestic violence warrant out on him, I am glad that he got the little girl out.

  • Smartypants

    I wonder what would happen if all of us were judged posthumously on our social media content? Smh.

    I won't indict this young lady in death. She is gone.

    Some of y'all need to rewatch that Jesse Williams' speech.

  • Smartypants

    Anybody know how I can donate to Flint? They STILL don't have good water meanwhile children are being exposed to lead... Much like the young woman above was....#staywoke

  • Nonya Bizness

    Ok, he's a punk a $$ because he ran WITH HIS DAUGHTER FROM THAT CRAZY BM? NOT. The only thing he did wrong was not take her son with him, but since he wasn't his, she probably wouldn't let him. SHE has a video on her IG of her with the shotg un, her papers, and her ranting about how happy she is her daddy taught her how to s hoot. Everything else is about defying authority and how in love her and her bd are, because you know, assaulting you=love.

  • LibraGirlonly

    When you oppress a people for sooooo long it will eventually blow up in your face. They want black people to take whatever they dish out and be ok with it. It may be that it's driving some folks bat sheit crazy. The Universe is going to correct those wrongs and no one can stop that.

  • Nonya Bizness

    Thank you! I only wish he was able to take her son with him when he ran.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Chile!!!!

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Im not sure about this. When ISIS was using twitter as a means of communication to recruits the US Attorney requested their accounts be taken down and they were. What makes her so different? The fact that she is a citizen or that she is african american. No offense but this woman was crazy. She put her children in harm not once but twice. Resisted arrested and recorded it for all to see while fixing her hair and making sure she was cute for the cameras. Not at one time did she realize she was putting her kids in jeopardy. As said before this house was known in her neighborhood because of the domestic dealings with her man. She was thirsty for attention and recognition something that these age of social media adults need for validation and hits and likes on facebook. She took it too far and put her childs life in jeopardy.

  • Alisa

    I didn't see anything on her record the only assault I saw was she was charged w/ malicious destruction of property. It was a female then a peace order taken against her from her son's father.They were going thru paternity, visitation/custody issues. Then I saw a petition to change the name of one of her children. I didn't look at the guy that ran. I'm going to go do that

  • Smartypants

    Can we talk about the lack of intervention medical and otherwise in her life:
    -Lead poisoning
    -Domestic Abuse

    Where were the interventions for her before this happened? Black women's lives MATTER!

  • Alisa

    Yep she had on Wonder Woman leggings I think she was loading it the same way in the video she was recording when she was killed. Plus she was showing her license but I didn't zoom in to see it. The shotgun had a pistol grip

  • SpiceGirl

    folks be crazy!

  • Nonya Bizness

    When he ran out of the apt,WITH HIS CHILD AND AWAY FROM A NUT WITH A G UN, he ran right into the cops.He knew they were out there, so what was he running from, except a nut with a d eath wish She loved that "coward's" dirty draws. It's all over her IG, and I don't believe for a second she called the police on him. Maybe a neighbor did, but no way she did it. Why isn't she a dummy for staying with someone that beat on her? S hit. SHE started all of this. ALL OF IT. He's not in the car with her during any of these confrontations with the police, while she was terrorizing her son and putting his and her daughters life in danger, driving with a piece of cardboard that said "‘Any government official who compromises this pursuit to happiness and right to travel, will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right to freedom,'” instead of a license plate. Bish was nuttier than a fruitcake. The boyfriend was released ROR, while she fought the law and the law won. She is vile for what she did to her son.

  • Benita Renee’

    OMG! THE BABY DIED TOO???

  • BTweekin

    Funny How She Wasn't Scared Of Police When She Dialed 911 When Her Boyfriend Beat Her Ass, Only When They Wanted To Arrest Her Or Take Her Car, Because Her Sh*t Wasn't Straight. Should Have Used That Shotgun On Her Boyfriend When He Beat Her Ass Back In June Instead Of Calling The Cops She Was So Scared Of.

  • MsAmour22

    I almost refrained from commenting on this post but I strongly felt the need to because I felt this sisters frustration and anger regarding these policy enforcers as I myself have been there and also the emotion I felt regarding her children. One should know that she was attempting to exercise her constitutional right to travel albeit not completely in the correct manner but she was definitely not crazy in doing so she was brave and without fear and I commend her!

    Know the difference between the so called Sovereign Citizen movement which is actually a fraudulent movement started by modern europeans (so called white people) to gain sovereignty on the American land but they can not gain sovereignty because it is not their land they are of a quasi national domicile. When us Moors, Aboriginal Indigenous or so called black brothers and sisters claim our Nationality and stop claiming that we are black we then are domiciling or living on our land properly as per the Constitution. I can see that unfortunately Sister Korryn moved a little bit prematurely in her studies to claim Sovereign citizen when claiming Nationality would’ve been the proper stance and also eliminating the usage of the term black (which unfortunately she emphasized on her instagram posts) which still keeps one in bondage politically. "Black people" are not black & “White people are not white” They are modern European and we by blood line are Moors. This is not about color it’s about political facts. Brother Malcolm told you in his autobiography and was also emphasized again in the dictionary scene of the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51USLgPWhgc.

    Brother Mario El Bey breaking down our right to travel and the lie of traffic infractions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdB_pkoLmaY

    Sister Rahsmariah Bey breaking down sovereign citizen at the 26:00 mark
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mhhs-eyeswideopen/2016/08/03/principals-of-nationality-in-action

    What to study
    http://www.rvbeypublications.com/id80.html

    Also we must stop this race bs, its only one race & thats the human race. The Modern European who are in office want to evoke anger and hostility but our approach should be one of calm in our use of facts for the pen is mightier than the sword.

    Peace & Love

  • MsAmour22

    I almost refrained from commenting on this post but I strongly felt the need to because I felt this sisters frustration and anger regarding these policy enforcers as I myself have been there and also the emotion I felt regarding her children. One should know that she was attempting to exercise her constitutional right to travel albeit not completely in the correct manner but she was definitely not crazy in doing so she was brave and without fear and I commend her!

    Know the difference between the so called Sovereign Citizen movement which is actually a fraudulent movement started by modern europeans (so called white people) to gain sovereignty on the American land but they can not gain sovereignty because it is not their land they are of a quasi national domicile. When us Moors, Aboriginal Indigenous or so called black brothers and sisters claim our Nationality and stop claiming that we are black we then are domiciling or living on our land properly as per the Constitution. I can see that unfortunately Sister Korryn moved a little bit prematurely in her studies to claim Sovereign citizen when claiming Nationality would’ve been the proper stance and also eliminating the usage of the term black (which unfortunately she emphasized on her instagram posts) which still keeps one in bondage politically. "Black people" are not black & “White people are not white” They are modern European and we by blood line are Moors. This is not about color it’s about political facts. Brother Malcolm told you in his autobiography and was also emphasized again in the dictionary scene of the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51USLgPWhgc.

    Brother Mario El Bey breaking down our right to travel and the lie of traffic infractions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdB_pkoLmaY

    Sister Rahsmariah Bey breaking down sovereign citizen at the 26:00 mark
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mhhs-eyeswideopen/2016/08/03/principals-of-nationality-in-action

    What to study
    http://www.rvbeypublications.com/id80.html

    Also we must stop this race bs, its only one race & thats the human race. The Modern European who are in office want to evoke anger and hostility but our approach should be one of calm in our use of facts for the pen is mightier than the sword.

    Peace & Love

  • BTweekin

    She Also Had A Disorderly Conduct & Resisting Arrest Charge Which Are Criminal Offenses. Police Will Only Come To A Person's Home For A Traffic Warrant If They Are A Suspect In A Criminal Offense.

  • BTweekin

    She Also Had A Disorderly Conduct & Resisting Arrest Charge Which Are Criminal Offenses. Police Will Only Come To A Person's Home For A Traffic Warrant If They Are A Suspect In A Criminal Offense.

  • SellieBaby

    This is a perfect time to show that although we mourn the loss of every individual we understand the law...we aren't going to rally because she committed suicide. So when we march and cry out and protest for individual such as Alton Sterling it's because we KNOW that it was clearly unjustified MURDER...I'm not political I'm just saying I'm tired of people acting like black people are so stupid that we think laws do not apply to our race and that we can't tell when we are being EXECUTED

  • SellieBaby

    This is a perfect time to show that although we mourn the loss of every individual we understand the law...we aren't going to rally because she committed suicide. So when we march and cry out and protest for individual such as Alton Sterling it's because we KNOW that it was clearly unjustified MURDER...I'm not political I'm just saying I'm tired of people acting like black people are so stupid that we think laws do not apply to our race and that we can't tell when we are being EXECUTED

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    My thought up stories bee way better than the write ups sometimeZ ???

  • side_i

    Activism from YouTube--??? even though Sandy was messy in her write about this yesterday(side eye) from what I read she seemed like she instigated the situation & seeing more of these videos really doesn't help the assumptions ppl already made. I hope she's at peace now.

  • Erin

    And there you have and nuttier than a fruitcake is in my Top 10 Sayings lol

  • Tonia Hannah

    Well said

  • LibraGirlonly

    No one wants to talk about that. They just want to say what she should or should not have done. Ion maybe they have never been exposed to mental illness. Heck for all we know she could have suffered from the lead poisoning. The police didn't have to take her life period.

  • LibraGirlonly

    I don't get it either.

  • Taj B.

    The mind is real. Y'all post the memes about the shit everyday and then cry when it executes. The universe/God/truth gives no f***s about the reasons or excuses. It's logically executed and charged by the emotions. Korryn died like the movie script she wrote and transparenlty displayed on social media. Shit got real and it is what it is. Abra fckn cadabra! All the other politics about the case, I'm not engaged ...

  • MsAmour22

    What you stated is true as well.

  • Taylordanes

    Yes so true..It just kills me how whites can be combative and resist and its ok, but black people are killed when they resist

  • Taylordanes

    Wish he could have grabbed both the babies!

  • Taylordanes

    You defending a movement has nothing to do with people who are mentally ill or use the name in vain. The same can be said for terrorists and Muslims. All Muslims are not terrorists...all Catholic Priests aren't rapist, everyone in the Republican Party doesn't agree with Trump. A few bad apples does not stop the show. Those people do not represent those movements or religions. The media will try and attach negativity to anything positive. you have to see beyond that and keep supporting what you think is right!

  • Taylordanes

    She was disturbed and extreme and that has nothing to do with the BLM movement...One person and their actions does not represent a movement..and pro black doesn't automatically attach someone to the movement.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    Clown, troll elsewhere.

  • Taylordanes

    Do you know if the little boy belonged to the boyfriend?

  • Taylordanes

    Some of "us" have been manipulated and lied to so long that sometimes it does take time and real facts to come out so people CAN see what the truth is... You can't knock our people for having reservations especially with the past incidents..

  • Taylordanes

    Read several write ups....most media and bloggers put a spin on the truth ...so you have to gather info from many sources often times

  • magical radical

    I totally understand, that is your right and I have done the same thing. Ultimately this all stemmed from her refusing to get out of her car at the initial incident, because she chose not to comply with an unjust system she didn't believe in. And she knew the result would be death. I'm not saying I would do it, or I agree with all she did, but I respect her choice. Why are we ok with nonviolent noncompliance resulting in murder and why be surprised when the system does its job and murders or subjugated people of color and why villianize this young lady for standing up for her beliefs despite the consequences. They murder us in front of our children and murder our children in front of us with absolutely no accountability as paid public servants. This system will not change because it does what it was designed to do, and systems do not destroy themselves. But this is just my opinion and yours is valid as well.

  • DidLEESquatTho

    Preach. She was an absolute fool.

    Her mother said, “She didn’t want to listen. She has poor decision making skills. I think she needs guidance,” That statement alone was powerful.

    I currently work with the black youth of DC/MD . As much as I love them, I'll admit they have a hard time following RULES and respecting authority.

    This is sad and selfish. She allowed her son to witness, as well as participate in her disobedient episodes w/authority aka the police. She was wrong and now, DEAD WRONG.

    I pray for the kids.

  • TheWildChild

    I felt so bad for her son ? in all the videos I've seen, his little voice seem to wimper in fear whenever responding to his mother.

  • Taylordanes

    Thats my thoughts exactly...you cant be mad people are questioning the facts with what is REALLY happening to innocent people

  • Taylordanes

    There is nothing wrong with having guns and knowing how to use them for protection, but why broadcast it for everyone to see!!

  • AnniA

    I agree with you hun...

  • LibraGirlonly

    You can be changed with anything but was she convicted?

  • LibraGirlonly

    They killed this young lady and it wasn't necessary.

  • Taylordanes

    Where does it report she shot first?

  • Taylordanes

    I was thinking he wasnt his or it was too difficult to get him from her

  • Taylordanes

    With a shot gun in her hand?

  • Taylordanes

    how many times have WHITES not complied and still walked away ok? how many times have BLACKS complied and BEEN INNOCENT and have still been SHOT DEAD?

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    Ikr. It was heartbreaking

  • Taylordanes

    If he had not grabbed his child and ran they may be dead as well. He may not have been able to reason with her!

  • Taylordanes

    There are pics on her cousins IG (anthiauniquee)

  • Taylordanes

    Is it documented she called or was it a neighbor or someone else?

  • Taylordanes

    She committed suicide for not complying? But white folks have extreme ideals and resist as well and they dont die???

  • Let Your Soul Glow

    Thanks!

  • SellieBaby

    Maybe that was an assumed statement. I say that because it's been reported that she pulled and pointed a gun. There have been Caucasians to die as well for the same thing. I am not naive to believe that there are less but still...

  • LibraGirlonly

    It's being reported but is that what happened? Be very careful when dealing with the media.

  • LibraGirlonly

    You must have forgotten that the police and their thug buddies will lie about any and everything soooo I don't believe nothing that comes out of their mouth.

  • BTweekin

    It's Documented.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Just awful, you can't flinch or you could be doing nothing and be killed but certainly drawing a weapon will get this result. Prayers for her loved ones and baby....

  • LibraGirlonly

    RIP baby girl?? I really hope her children turn out ok.

  • whitty hutton

    ???Arguing is for the courtroom. Once an officer cites you, just take the ticket and stfu. The officer is not judge nor jury so why waste time arguing...or in this case end up dead.

  • God is working on me!

    That's what I'm saying... he's the biggest coward in this whole story. I'm surprised he had the balls to take her daughter.

  • Soon2BWife

    Me too and perhaps her children will get some. Sad situation all around but I don't see how the cops had a choice.

  • Soon2BWife

    I understand her youtube video.

  • Soon2BWife

    You are so right! The fact that people are defending her is beyond me....all it is doing is taking what little credibility the BLM still has. All black people ranting and being irrational=BLM in the world's eye.

  • Moon Lee

    Very hard to watch, Damn I'm in tears!

  • Doink_Ahanahue

    ..and if you did, you would see no difference UNLESS new information was release since this was written. NO ONE is ALWAYS right whether Black, White, other race, Police, Fireman, Politician or even a Parent! Let the facts, not the face guide your mind

  • SouljaSociety

    I believe this woman was a firecracker, meaning she had a hard head, and a temper, and probably made decisions based on her emotions...... BUT.... I dont think she was crazy enough to shoot a shotgun at the police while her son was in bullets range.

    And you telling me a 100 pond woman can shoot a shotgun? I'm a grown ass man and that shit push me back almost to the ground if I aint planted my feet right.

  • suganspice68

    I also wished that same thing.

  • MsSincerity

    Was it legal for the landlord to let them in like that? Any Joan Carol Clayton's or William Dent's out there?

  • remy flowers

    Whether or not whose right or wrong ...This story makes no sense!!!!Smell a fabrication.