There is no doubt that Luther “Luke Skyywalker” Campbell was a male whore at the peak of his success with The 2 Live Crew rap group in the 80s. Luke sowed his wild oats and impregnated a number of groupies in those heady (pun intended) days.
One of his seeds, a daughter, has spoken out against her sperm donor dad — now that she’s of legal age and no longer receives financial support from him. You’ve probably seen her video on WSHH. She comes across as a bitter ingrate who loathes the idea of actually working for a living.
Well, Nenette of the Mad Hatta Morning Show caught up with Luke recently to get his take on the situation. Luke said he is only financially responsible for one of his 5 grown children — a baby boy with his current wife. That makes sense, doesn’t it?
“I have one kid. His name is Blake Campbell and he stays with me and me and my wife raise him. I’ve made mistakes in my life and I’d like everyone to understand that It’s important to practice safe sex and it’s important to not have sex without condoms because you’ll be sperm donating and when you sperm donate to angry mothers then unfortunately it’s about a check. When you get a check, the results of that check ends up where your sperm donation kids are online talking bad about you. [link]
Anyone surprised?
these rappers and men all over better take notes. and women have children when you are in a committed (married) relationship because you know the person
Damn luke not even claiming the rest of the kids… At least he promoting safe sex..lol
I saw this yesterday and cant believe he is denying his kids and calling them “sperm donations”
Then again, it is Luke
Carmez79 says:
these rappers and men all over better take notes. and women have children when you are in a committed (married) relationship because you know the person
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In theory, waiting until your married sounds wonderful. You can be married to a man for years and still not know all about him. And then, there really isn’t any guarantee that negro will be there to the end.
#lifeisnotallbutterfliesandrainbows
how fair is that to your kids to act this way? who cares about a child support check? time spent with her father is probably all she wanted.
Wrap’em up fella’s!
Morning Fam,
Luke is the poster child of “actions & consequences”…..like most of our brothers, he wasn’t thinking about none of this when he was taking part in the actions, now he’s suffering the consequences.
I’m most def not surprised KK….we see it in the hood everyday!
That is just sad!!! He knows what he did and what would be the results. I dont know why he acting brand new …he will get his though!!!
that is sad regardless of what the kids can’t help it that HE along with their mothers were irresponsible i hope his wife knows what she married and his old azz got a baby that young !!!!!!! you dont EVER fault the kids they are innocent…. own your part LUKE you going to hell for that statement
@LUKE’S UNNAMED DAUGHTER
How you a “deadbeat” and you paid child support for umpteen years? That nigga ain’t eva want you! Get over it.
“Luke said he is only financially responsible for one of his 5 grown children — a baby boy with his current wife. That makes sense, doesn’t it?”
Being financially responsible does not substitute for a father being there for his children. So you’re saying it’s ok for him to go out and make as many babies as he wants as long as he throws them a check, but when they are old enough for you to cut them off it’s ok to not claim them anymore????? No ma’am! I watched the video and she talked about how hew was never there for her and any of his other 5 children that he doesn’t even claim now! Does that make sense?
Not surprised that Uncle Luke would say this, but how sad for the kids! I’m sure his azz didn’t get isht for father’s day! LOL!
When I read certain things I look deeper into the surface. I see sarcasm with is statement. Even with Luke’s raunchyness, he’s a smart individual. What “I” see in this statement is that he has tried to have a relationship with his children, and because the mothers are angry for whatever reason and manipulated the children to act out it has become hard for him to be a father so now he is focusing on his current family. I’ve seen this first hand with a man who wasn’t/isn’t a millionaire and some women just DON’T get over it. He had a reality show with is children so obviously at some point there was a relationship. When/Where it went sour, we don’t know.
That is just sad!!! He knows what he did and what would be the results. I dont know why he acting brand new …he will get his though!!!
AGREED!
yvonne79 says:
In theory, waiting until your married sounds wonderful. You can be married to a man for years and still not know all about him. And then, there really isn’t any guarantee that negro will be there to the end.
#lifeisnotallbutterfliesandrainbows
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BK2ATLMAN says:
“Damn luke not even claiming the rest of the kids… At least he promoting safe sex..lol”
FloridaChick813 says:
In my book, making that statement makes him a certified a-hole.
‘I saw this yesterday and cant believe he is denying his kids and calling them “sperm donations”’
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Regardless if he had a relationship with the kids’ mother or not, there’s really NO NEED to refer to your kids as “donations”. That’s not cool at all.
yvonne79 says:
Carmez79 says:
these rappers and men all over better take notes. and women have children when you are in a committed (married) relationship because you know the person
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In theory, waiting until your married sounds wonderful. You can be married to a man for years and still not know all about him. And then, there really isn’t any guarantee that negro will be there to the end.
#lifeisnotallbutterfliesandrainbows
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If you take the time to really get to know a person i doubt that will happen. I feel people rush into it or know that it isn’t the right move but do it anyway because they’re content and they don’t want to start over. Never settle. If you marry the right person they won’t leave.
this is sad he dint even claim his other kids sperm donations wow that should help his daughter self-estem…..she provable is just looking for his attention and this is the only way she can get it.. the kids to be spearm donations its his dam decision he decided that all he was going to do for these kids is a check just sorry
Man said: How you a “deadbeat” and you paid child support for umpteen years? That nigga ain’t eva want you! Get over it.
@ Man, obviously you don’t have kids if you think they can just “get over” not being wanted. How phuckin’ callous is that statement?!
This is disgusting…how could you call your own flesh and blood “sperm donations?” Especially after you paraded them all up in your reality show. He should be ashamed of himself. And just because you spent money on them, that don’t make you a good father, IMO
@Carmez while this is a noble idea, that is not a guarantee either. My mother married my father when she was 21, he was her first, they had 3 children and married for 33 years, and even with that type of devotion to him, he still cheated. She didn’t leave because she held true to her religion in not recognizing divorce as a legit reversal to something bounded by God. I’ve had mixed feelings about this for years, and still do. She reseambled the closest thing to a single mom to me cause my father was in the Navy and was gone majority of the years.
Mamacita says:
yvonne79 says:
Carmez79 says:
these rappers and men all over better take notes. and women have children when you are in a committed (married) relationship because you know the person
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In theory, waiting until your married sounds wonderful. You can be married to a man for years and still not know all about him. And then, there really isn’t any guarantee that negro will be there to the end.
#lifeisnotallbutterfliesandrainbows
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If you take the time to really get to know a person i doubt that will happen. I feel people rush into it or know that it isn’t the right move but do it anyway because they’re content and they don’t want to start over. Never settle. If you marry the right person they won’t leave.
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I definitely will agree with you that nowadays people rush into relationships/marriages without taking the time to get to know one another. Not taking the time out to learn someone has the potential to set yourself up for heartbreak. All I’m saying is, relationships end. That’s the reality. Although we may want them to last forever, oftentimes they don’t. Just give it your all and hope for the best.
A lot of women are just cruel. I’ve seen men who have taken care of their children, clothe them, feed them, nurture and father them and the mother takes the guy to child support court because she wants a large back pay check. Then the dynamics of the relationship changes, the father is angry, the mother/father no longer get along, the mother has custody so she plays games with the child (not allowing the father to see the child) and makes the situation hard.
@mamacita
really?? A person can walkout no questions asked after 1 5 10 15 or 20yrs etc and all that time u cld have thought u married the right person
I don’t know what went down but u can’t be w/me and not take care of and be active in your kids life that is NOT cool to me in gen
EssenceofU says:
Man said: How you a “deadbeat” and you paid child support for umpteen years? That nigga ain’t eva want you! Get over it.
@ Man, obviously you don’t have kids if you think they can just “get over” not being wanted. How phuckin’ callous is that statement?!
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I take his statement as, cast your personal feelings about the relationship ending to the side. Yes, the man may not want to be with you and has moved on….Get over it! Going forward, let the focus be placed on raising these kids in a healthy enviornment. In my opinion, the focus should always be placed on the kids.
What an ass. “I have one kid.” I guess until that young girl divorce you’re yuck mouth ass then you’ll have none. And to refer to his kids as checks humm guess that’s why you have no kids cause your broke ass don’t have the money to support them. Dirty dyck nicca I remember you Uncle Luck who was the first person I ever heard admit to being a trysexual. A person who would try and sex with anything inc animals. No offense to your wife but it would take a certain type of animal to lay down with a man who doesn’t claim his children.
You’re a jerk Luke this Buds for you.
I do agree w/you abt some ppl rushing into relationship/marriage
How you a “deadbeat” and you paid child support for umpteen years? That nigga ain’t eva want you! Get over it.
WOW…really?
That’s cold…even for you Man SMH
I can’t imagine just “getting over” not having my father….Thank God for strong men like my Dad!!!
nooooooow it’s about safe sex and using condoms? well, if he weren’t a dead beat dad surely she wouldn’t call him such. maybe if he treated them like children, hence him only claiming one child out of five, instead of sperm donations on his payroll, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
should i be surprised that he’s this inarticulate? popping pussy and casting low self esteem as luke girls was more important than education or even reading books (and playboy and hustler dont count).
***low self esteem chicks****
FreeToSpeakUp says:
A lot of women are just cruel. I’ve seen men who have taken care of their children, clothe them, feed them, nurture and father them and the mother takes the guy to child support court because she wants a large back pay check. Then the dynamics of the relationship changes, the father is angry, the mother/father no longer get along, the mother has custody so she plays games with the child (not allowing the father to see the child) and makes the situation hard.
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Girl, I JUST had this relationship with one of my male friends about this scenario last night. Some women are VERY vindictive and will use their children as pawns in a heartbeat. Not cool at all! And the person that suffers the most is the child!!!
@ESSENCE OF U
“obviously you don’t have kids if you think they can just “get over” not being wanted. How phuckin’ callous is that statement?!”
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Um… yes, she needs to get over it. Real talk. I know plenty of women that WISH they could get a dime of child support for one.
What about the children that have deceased parents and don’t get chit?
Please. This daughter sounds like she is trying to extort money from this man by trying to publicly shame him. Probably an idea she got for her mother. SMH.
FreeToSpeakUp says:
When I read certain things I look deeper into the surface. I see sarcasm with is statement. Even with Luke’s raunchyness, he’s a smart individual. What “I” see in this statement is that he has tried to have a relationship with his children, and because the mothers are angry for whatever reason and manipulated the children to act out it has become hard for him to be a father so now he is focusing on his current family. I’ve seen this first hand with a man who wasn’t/isn’t a millionaire and some women just DON’T get over it. He had a reality show with is children so obviously at some point there was a relationship. When/Where it went sour, we don’t know.
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we see it in the hood everyday…..it really is some devious hoodrat chickenhead mothers out here, who will attempt (some succeed) in using their children as pawns to get what they want from the man…..money, cars, ding ling, the ring….or just to cause a ruckus in the man’s life–cause it was just a sex thing/the relationship didn’t work.
@Free Yeah some mothers do act like that but how is that the child’s fault? The child never asked to be here so for a FATHER (no matter how much he tries to deny it) shuld never stoop to the level of calling your own kids “sperm donations”. He’s not smart at all because a smart person would NEVER let those words leave their mouth. Obviously he’s exactly what she called him,, a dead beat!
I don’t know what went down but u can’t be w/me and not take care of and be active in your kids life that is NOT cool to me in gen
I feel the SAME way!
And people “think they marry the right person everyday” — but people change. Times change.
Considering who luke was, and luke who is…..should i be surprised taken a back. It was no secret who luke was. Luke and all the momas should of thought of that wen they were laying down….I”m not saying its right, what he said was cold…but luke’s character was on display for everybody, it was no secret. It is what it is. imo
@RENEGADE
“How you a “deadbeat” and you paid child support for umpteen years? That nigga ain’t eva want you! Get over it.”
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WOW…really? That’s cold…even for you Man SMH
I can’t imagine just “getting over” not having my father….Thank God for strong men like my Dad!!!
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People do exactly that everyday. Why she should be treated any different. I think Luke was fairly tame in his response.
^Sorry, for the typos..had that conversation last night*
Luke may be angry with his kids and their mothers for lashing out at him but this is no way for him as a man and father to handle it. If I was his current wife this would make we very concerned.
He sounds as ignant as he can be. No matter what went on with his children’s mother….it is his duty to try to have a relationship with them no mater what. And from his show he has other children that are still minors so he’s just saying “eff” y’all too? Karma is a sneaky low down bish who’s just waiting on Luke.
This has to be the cruddiest statement I’ve heard in a long time. I am all for having children oncce you are married but things do happen. However, when you have a baby by a man who doesnt even LIKE you chances are he will not feel much attachment to the child. It’s not right but its the way it is. Obviously since Luke had no emotional connection with these women he impregnated he felt being a father was sending a check to correct his “mistake” of donating sperm. He now feels that his work is done since his donations are all over 18. For his wife to be an educated woman I am suprised that she would think his mindset about this is ok. Even if he was just joking it is still a very unacceptable thing to say and I would never marry or embark on parenthood with someone who could say such things about their OWN seeds. Do better Luke.
@Yvonne, in Man’s earlier comment #11, he was speaking to Luke’s daugher, not the mother, and that is very callous to tell a child to get over not being wanted, whether they are 5 or 50!
in the old days, people would just tell it like it is but these days we’ve become too scared to hurt kids’ feelings while it’s ok for kids to disrespect us by “expressing themselves” about things they don’t know ish about except what their bitter *ss mommas tell them.
any father paying child support will understand (not neccesarily AGREE but understand) what luke is saying. when the money is rolling, your kids are cool, fine, etc. this man was out making a living and supporting them like many fathers have to do. their conception is what it is and half of that responsibility is their mothers’. when the checks stop coming, now they want to front you in front of the whole world like you ain’t done a damn thing for them. then cool, survive on your own.
it’s time for tough love people. that’s why this generation of kids is lost.
@Nika: Soooooo, yeah…..um, did you just get that tshirt?
I agree with so many of you. This young lady, like most girls need their fathers around and in their lives consistently. @Mamacita…I agree a real father would not have let those words out of his mouth ever.
Daisy says:
@mamacita really?? A person can walkout no questions asked after 1 5 10 15 or 20yrs etc and all that time u cld have thought u married the right person
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Like i said earlier if you marry the RIGHT person for you (not the person you thought was right for you) then they won’t leave. That’s my opinion and i will continue to believe that. I’m not saying that people DON’T leave but obviously that wasn’t the person for you if they/you left.
I see it all the time! People see signs that thing aren’t right but do it anyway and then act surprised when it doesn’t work. I just had a friend who has been dating a guy on and off for 7 YEARS. They’ve both cheated on each other and argue all the time about NOTHING worth arguing over. But you wanna know what they did…they got married!!! Needless to say she filed for divorce after maybe 6 months of marriage. Or people get married solely because they have a child together. A child WILL NOT MAKE A MAN STAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EssenceofU says:
@Yvonne, in Man’s earlier comment #11, he was speaking to Luke’s daugher, not the mother, and that is very callous to tell a child to get over not being wanted, whether they are 5 or 50
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I stand corrected. I can’t justify that statement
You know why I love God’s justice? Because the child that he do loves ( Blake ) will be the one to put him in an early grave, and still won’t attend the funeral.
@ Yvonne & Katgirl: We are >>>here<<<
@ Mamacita
I've seen it firsthand. I am not in anyway condoning Luke for calling the kids "sperm donations" just as I am not condoning his child to publicly rant on that her father is a "deadbeat". When people are angry say messed up stuff, but it's still not right. They are BOTH wrong. But women screw men over everyday. Just because a man is on child suppor DOESN'T mean he didn't take care of that child before hand. Like I said, he had other children on the show with him so somewhere down the line, things went south…
@FREE
“in the old days, people would just tell it like it is but these days we’ve become too scared to hurt kids’ feelings while it’s ok for kids to disrespect us by “expressing themselves” about things they don’t know ish about except what their bitter *ss mommas tell them.
any father paying child support will understand (not neccesarily AGREE but understand) what luke is saying. when the money is rolling, your kids are cool, fine, etc. this man was out making a living and supporting them like many fathers have to do. their conception is what it is and half of that responsibility is their mothers’. when the checks stop coming, now they want to front you in front of the whole world like you ain’t done a damn thing for them. then cool, survive on your own.
it’s time for tough love people. that’s why this generation of kids is lost.”
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Last comment….LOL
I think he got disrespectful…b/c he seen the video….I haven’t, but who knows what this girl den said to his face/over the phone/in a letter to him over the years…these kids today are something else….lol
@Free…true…but All the money in the world being spent on children for their care and wellbeing will never amount to what is gained from having a true, consistent presence in the life of your children, and your kids knowing that they have that. No $$$ will ever amount to that.
“And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.”
EPHESIANS 6:4
I will be waiting for the daughters response in 5 4 3 2 1
Also didn’t she say Luke use to beat her mama??
Good morning fam.
@Man
People “claim” they do that…but they never really “get over it”. It just affects their lives in different ways. They act out as a teen, the girls have trust issues with men, men have anger issues, etc… You just don’t get over it.
Obviously his daughter is seeking some sort of attention from him because she needs her father. That’s plain as day. Just because you sign checks…that DOES NOT MAKE YOU A FATHER
Regardless of the circumstances under which HIS CHILDREN were conceived, there is absolutely NO REASON for him to refer to them as “sperm donations”. Just because you cut a sorry azz check does not exclude you from being a FATHER to your kids. Dirty Dyck Mofo!
Was Luke raised by a single mom? If so, that would explain a lot.
@MAN u crazy do u know what it would do to a girl to hear her father call her a spearm donation??? a real father not a paycheck but a real father would never ever say that because at the end of the day he is the adult.
@SANDRA
Can you post the video of the
extortion attempt*ahem* daughter’s plead to her father?I don’t know what went down but u can’t be w/me and not take care of and be active in your kids life that is NOT cool to me in gen
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Hellz yea! And if you treat your momma like ish, I can’t phuk wit you neither!
One of the sexiest thing about my man is the fact that he is his relationship with his mom, his sister, and his kids.
My cousin is the type of bish that doesn’t want her “current” baby daddy (she has six kids with 3 different men) to be around his previous children. She blows me, how are you going to demand he neglects his children? She a dummy!
Mamacita says:
I see it all the time! People see signs that thing aren’t right but do it anyway and then act surprised when it doesn’t work. I just had a friend who has been dating a guy on and off for 7 YEARS. They’ve both cheated on each other and argue all the time about NOTHING worth arguing over. But you wanna know what they did…they got married!!! Needless to say she filed for divorce after maybe 6 months of marriage. Or people get married solely because they have a child together. A child WILL NOT MAKE A MAN STAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I definitely agree with this part of your comment. If your a relationship that’s sucking the life out of you and you’re just dating, a ring will not change a thing.
i dont believe you can just tell a person to get over something if it affects their life, their thinking or interactions. for some reason, generally speaking, people say it every day. my brother, who is married with kids, is so quick to say what somebody needs to get over. he then wanna have his own moment and rants and the room gets quiet cuz you know everybody thinking, yea mf, insert “get over it” here.
you get over ish like they messed up my order, or i got on mix matched shoes/socks or i’m driving without my wallet. a parent not caring if you were dead or alive, there isn’t a way to get over that. true, you learn to deal with it, buy you never get over it. a day doesn’t go by now at my grown ass age where i would stop traffic if my 60 something father called because it’s like damn, u had me on ya mind, wanted to see how im doing, etc, instead of the other way around. he wont. i’ve learned to live with it, but u never get over it.
@RENEGADE
“People “claim” they do that…but they never really “get over it”. It just affects their lives in different ways. They act out as a teen, the girls have trust issues with men, men have anger issues, etc… You just don’t get over it.
Obviously his daughter is seeking some sort of attention from him because she needs her father. That’s plain as day. Just because you sign checks…that DOES NOT MAKE YOU A FATHER”
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Maybe they don’t “get over it,” however you define it, but they have to deal it with it one way or another. How many do you see trying to shame their father’s (or mother’s) into having a relationship with them?????
This is a GROWN WOMAN, not some teenager dealin with hormones. Why aren’t the rest of his kids complainin?
I can understand Luke’s daughter’s frustration at him for not being there but you can’t force a person to accept you, he has to want to accept you himself. Now that she is of age, she needs to question her mom about where the money went to. I know those checks Luke sent weren’t small and if her mama was smart, she would have had a savings acct. set up for her daughter’s education.
We are talking about about LUKE from the 2 Live Crew here! I know I’m not that old(LMAO)……I know y’all remember how Luke got down……what Luke is saying is he got 5 kids, didn’t have a hand in raising none of them except the one he had with his wife:
“I have one kid. His name is Blake Campbell and he stays with me and me and my wife raise him.”
Regardless of whether they were enjoying his money back then is not the point. The point is as a man and a leader of your household, and father of your children, you should have called your children to the side, away from media and have a discussion with them NOT ACT LIKE A GROWN LITTLE BOY AND OUT THEM THE SAME WAY THEY DID YOU. I mean come on who is the leader here???
@yvonne79…true indeed. Most of the men that I work with come in here everyday talking bad about their wives, and boast about the side women that they have. One guy here got married yrs ago and came in here talking about, “the day after I got married I went by my other lady house”….we were like WTF???
iscream says: Dirty dyck nicca I remember you Uncle Luck who was the first person I ever heard admit to being a trysexual. A person who would try and sex with anything inc animals. No offense to your wife but it would take a certain type of animal to lay down with a man who doesn’t claim his children.
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so what does that make a chick that lays down with him w/no condom and procreates, especially during those raunchy-*ss days when he was out there like that? those h*es specifically got off birth control to have some lil paychecks but nobody is throwing shade on them.
Um… yes, she needs to get over it. Real talk. I know plenty of women that WISH they could get a dime of child support for one.
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*Raises my hand quickly…holding that bish up…waving hard*
@Man…yeah the support would be nice. But, I want him to have a relationship with my daughter. He doesn’t have to give me anything, If I had the option of him spending time with her over money…I would choose the time. The greatest relationship to me is between a father and his daughter. I will always appreciate the close bond I had/have with my daddy.
Tyzgurl says:
My cousin is the type of bish that doesn’t want her “current” baby daddy (she has six kids with 3 different men) to be around his previous children. She blows me, how are you going to demand he neglects his children? She a dummy!
She’s gonna regret that shyt! Cuz when he leaves her, she’ll be in the same boat…probably gonna be ready to fight the other chick and everything for “keeping him away from his kids!”
i am so mad at his statement! this is why alot of these young girls are out here hooking up with dudes that treat them like shhhh because they are looking for love in all the wrong places! i should know…i have a dead beat dad myself who didnt help financially and i didnt want the money, i just wanted time with him. luckily i met my husband who is nothing like him THANK GOD but it doesnt always work out that way for other young girls.
sandra your bugging out you might like luke but hes saying he only have one kid why because the rest of his kids are of age to take care of there self if this was somebody you hated you would of called him a dead beat
@POINT HIM OUT
“i dont believe you can just tell a person to get over something if it affects their life, their thinking or interactions. for some reason, generally speaking, people say it every day. my brother, who is married with kids, is so quick to say what somebody needs to get over. he then wanna have his own moment and rants and the room gets quiet cuz you know everybody thinking, yea mf, insert “get over it” here.
you get over ish like they messed up my order, or i got on mix matched shoes/socks or i’m driving without my wallet. a parent not caring if you were dead or alive, there isn’t a way to get over that. true, you learn to deal with it, buy you never get over it. a day doesn’t go by now at my grown ass age where i would stop traffic if my 60 something father called because it’s like damn, u had me on ya mind, wanted to see how im doing, etc, instead of the other way around. he wont. i’ve learned to live with it, but u never get over it.”
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I wish you luck on that dawg. Real talk. People deal with things in different ways, but EVERYONE has their crosses to bare and they need to find a way to deal with it.
That being said, did you have a YouTube video callin your Dad a “deadbeat” and the like?
What did his daughter say for him to react like that? And didn’t his son also cosign with the daughter???
katgirl33 says:
We are talking about about LUKE from the 2 Live Crew here! I know I’m not that old(LMAO)……I know y’all remember how Luke got down……what Luke is saying is he got 5 kids, didn’t have a hand in raising none of them except the one he had with his wife:
“I have one kid. His name is Blake Campbell and he stays with me and me and my wife raise him.”
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You read that just look me, beneath the surface.
*just like me
No one knows better than the mom and child what kind of dad you are and kids growing up resenting their “sperm donors” (as Luke says) can usually have a negative effect on their adult lives.
@mama we will agree to disagree abt your comments on marryin the right person for u cause u can’t control somebody walking out. I agree and have said before as well a baby won’t make a man stay.
Regardless of what the situation is, they are still his children, his blood. It take a low-down and triflin nigga to deny his own children.
And to refer to them as sperm donors is just cold. Even if the mothers have “turned” the children against their dad..why couldn’t he just take the high road and say he loves ALL his children even the ones he has a strained relationship with. Shoot Teddy Riley even said he loved all his children just sometimes they had to be dealt with.
@pointhimout …What you said is so true. Most people that haven’t been through anything (forreal) don’t understand how situations in your life affect so many other areas within your life. Some people will never “get over it” but they do just deal with it.
All I can say is….I wish my bio dad would have paid child support. I think he’s given me $50 in 37 years. You want them to be there, but $$$ would have been nice too!
I guess this is what the comments section is for.
Folks to see and read one side of the story and respond like they know what’s really going on. LOL
I saw the video weeks ago from Lucretia or whatever the hell her name is and another daughter. They are reaching out because they have a 17 yr. old brother that needs his father. Obviously their brother is going through something. And for those that feel the mother/mothers have poisoned the kids against there father I don’t think that’s the case. If he paid millions of dollars in child support he could have paid an attorney to get visitation and raise his f(cking kids. My mother can’t say anything bad about my father because my father has shown me all my life that he’s a great man.
I saw Luke and Pinky a few months ago and I swear he had on some busted biscuit toe Air Force ones with a oversized leather jacket. Luke has no money and he’s washed up…..
free says:
iscream says: Dirty dyck nicca I remember you Uncle Luck who was the first person I ever heard admit to being a trysexual. A person who would try and sex with anything inc animals. No offense to your wife but it would take a certain type of animal to lay down with a man who doesn’t claim his children.
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so what does that make a chick that lays down with him w/no condom and procreates, especially during those raunchy-*ss days when he was out there like that?
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Exactly.
Oh and Luke is ignut. You don’t talk to your offspring that way, period.
thaspinaltruth says:
Regardless of what the situation is, they are still his children, his blood. It take a low-down and triflin nigga to deny his own children.
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Exactly.
Heyy Spinal, where u been?
shannon04 says: @Free…true…but All the money in the world being spent on children for their care and wellbeing will never amount to what is gained from having a true, consistent presence in the life of your children, and your kids knowing that they have that. No $$$ will ever amount to that.
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so, it’s ok for the man to substitute his money with his time? yeah, rite!! that’s why the child support office is so empty.
the man was a damn rapper! they travel, they do concerts and appearances, they have to remain in the public eye to be relevant. therefore, I’m pretty sure he wasn’t working nine to five w/free weekends.
Smokie says:
All I can say is….I wish my bio dad would have paid child support. I think he’s given me $50 in 37 years. You want them to be there, but $$$ would have been nice too!
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wow
Trust and believe Luke is better off dealing with children now, apologizing to his children now, trying to make things right with his children now.
He really don’t want to wait till his death or the end of the world ( which is fast approaching ) to do this, cause it will be so so so too late then.
This is so sad…And people wonder why so many young girls don’t value themselves today. And why so many young men have no guidance, hopes, backbones, etc. With men like this walking around calling their children sperm donations, there is no wonder. Why are we suprised? I can’t stand any man that would treat his kids like this. It doesn’t matter how much money he gave, he still should show his kids some respect and not degrade them publicly. It’s obvious this girl is just screaming for attention from her father. You call your kids sperm donations and only claim the one that you have with your wife. Will that child become just a sperm donation as well once the mother/wife leaves and rapes your pockets old man. Old man luke should be ashamed. This deserves a wagging of the finger
@Point, you better PREACH!
My hubby doesn’t know his father and he has serious anger issues regarding it. He also has a son by a previous relationship that he pays child support for but rarely sees, I have always encouraged him to spend more time with his son and he never did, now said child is almost 18 and could care less if he sees him or not! Needless, to say, he can’t handle that, but, the bible doesn’t lie, you reap what you sow!
All i’m saying is people see the signs and know that a certain person is not for them. You just get a feeling or something tells you that it’s not a good idea to continue a relationship or get married to that person. There are ALWAYS things that tell you something’s not right. I refuse to believe that people don’t see what’s coming. Now whether you choose to recieve these signs and feelings as a warning and get out or whether you decide to ignore it and stay is all up to you. Just don’t be mad and upset when it blows up in your face. I don’t care how long you’ve been with someone, how many kids you have, how much time and money you’ve inveted in the relationship, if that person doesn’t want to be with you they won’t. So CLEARLY that was NEVER the person for you to spend the rest of your life with in the first place!
@kearalove
That trick already paying for it…none of her kids have stable and positve relationships with their fathers. She is in child support court with all of them (including the one she is currently with). It’s really sad……
@ Man 75
LOL. hell naw. fact is, I’m embarrassed that my pops has nuttin to do with us (3 kids, all boys) so I wouldn’t try to embarrass him into having a relationship with me (as sm1 posted on here). If my mindset were to do that, I’d be more embarrassed if he didn’t respond, or responded the way Luke did. So that’s y I say you learn to deal with what ur living without.
I don’t know why everyone keeps bringing the mothers in this, because it’s not about them, it’s about the children.
@SHANNON
“shannon04 says: @Free…true…but All the money in the world being spent on children for their care and wellbeing will never amount to what is gained from having a true, consistent presence in the life of your children, and your kids knowing that they have that. No $$$ will ever amount to that.”
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If the man told you specifically that he DIDN’T want children, you knew he was a rapper and that he was promiscuous, would you have unprotected sex with him AND carry his baby to full term?
@POINT HIM OUT
“LOL. hell naw. fact is, I’m embarrassed that my pops has nuttin to do with us (3 kids, all boys) so I wouldn’t try to embarrass him into having a relationship with me (as sm1 posted on here). If my mindset were to do that, I’d be more embarrassed if he didn’t respond, or responded the way Luke did. So that’s y I say you learn to deal with what ur living without.”
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Amen.
Which is what Lucrietta (SMH) needs to do. DEAL WITH IT AND GET OVER IT.
Get over it can mean so many things. For me, some women can’t “get over” the fact that they no longer had or never had the dude. It ANGERS them to see them living happily with someone else so they do ANYTHING in their power to destroy their union. Sending kids over having them say things like “Why aren’t you and my mommy together” and the kids are 12, kids come over and the mother is requiring a FULL report other than details of possible mistreatment by the new chick (i.e. what does his girlsfriend look like, what kind of car she has) C’mon…ya’ll know
I dont agree with him referring to his children this way however those mothers need to be called out too because when they was busy gettin it in thinking about the checks before they even got pregnant they too have forgotten their child in the process. It takes two at the end of the day. And for some of us woman who dont see their father or never got a check (me) its hard for me to boo hoo for her. When she has an open mind and they both can be adults about the situation the tune will be different.
Carry on. GOOD MORNING!!
FreeToSpeakUp says:
When I read certain things I look deeper into the surface. I see sarcasm with is statement. Even with Luke’s raunchyness, he’s a smart individual. What “I” see in this statement is that he has tried to have a relationship with his children, and because the mothers are angry for whatever reason and manipulated the children to act out it has become hard for him to be a father so now he is focusing on his current family. I’ve seen this first hand with a man who wasn’t/isn’t a millionaire and some women just DON’T get over it. He had a reality show with is children so obviously at some point there was a relationship. When/Where it went sour, we don’t know.
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thanks for bringing some realism to the convo.
@ Man
You can’t tell somebody to just get over it. Everyone deals with things differently. What if you had cancer and was about to die, and someone told you to just get over it you are going to die one day anyway. How would that make you feel? This girl is just blowing off steam the way she feels she needs to.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
If the man told you specifically that he DIDN’T want children, you knew he was a rapper and that he was promiscuous, would you have unprotected sex with him AND carry his baby to full term?
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@yvonne79 No ma’am not yet but look for them soon at saynotohoeshyt .com
@Redeemed,
I have a friend who’s father, on his death bed in the hospice, still chose not to make peace with his oldest daughter who was raised by another man, has his last name and all. but as an adult, she got back in contact with bio’s family, had a great relationship with her grandmother, but her bio dad was cold as ice to her til his dying day.
to this day, she still talks about it because it will forever bother her that he didn’t make it right and never wanted to deal with her, though she tried and would have her daughter meet him, try to call him, etc. he wanted no parts of her life at all.
there are some cruel women out here who do things just because but I always say, when hearing the men bitch and complain, i wanna hear her side, in front of you, just the 3 of us. let every man tell it, he’s a damn good father. let every woman tell it, he’s lying and she does everything. yeah, somebody’s lyin. but the kids come out saying ish, ok, this is a different dynamic. why would the kids say crass ish bout u unless it’s true?
@free…he probably was but at some point in your life you “sacrifice” for whats important- your children. Luke probably couldnt do that cause we all see he had bad money management skills- the end result: who suffered because of that- his children because he didnt man up the way he shouldve.
@MAN……I surely would not. That says alot about the women that were sleeping with him and being one night stands as well. It makes you wonder about a person like his wife. What in the hell would make her marry and have a baby with a man like LUKE???
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@SHANNON
“shannon04 says: @Free…true…but All the money in the world being spent on children for their care and wellbeing will never amount to what is gained from having a true, consistent presence in the life of your children, and your kids knowing that they have that. No $$$ will ever amount to that.”
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If the man told you specifically that he DIDN’T want children, you knew he was a rapper and that he was promiscuous, would you have unprotected sex with him AND carry his baby to full term?
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No matter how crazy it may seem, there will be women out there who think they can “change his mind”… :rollseye:
I don’t know why people are taking slack off Luke. He laid down with these women to. The end result is that, now this children have to suffer. They are being manipulated by their mothers and disowned by their father.
This is some real ‘koolaide’ comedy.
No matter what she is his daughter and anyone with a child knows that support doesn’t stop when the child turns 18 yrs old. I understand where his attitude with the mother comes from because she knew what type of man she was dealing with, so at some point she needs to be held responsible as well. If the mother didn’t disrespect the father the daughter wouldn’t. In my opinion what goes around comes around. Until someone (Luke or the daughter’s mother) gets their stuff together, the daughter will end up with a child out of wedlock and a man disrespecting her. Generational Curses! When will we ever learn?
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“You can’t tell somebody to just get over it. Everyone deals with things differently. What if you had cancer and was about to die, and someone told you to just get over it you are going to die one day anyway. How would that make you feel? This girl is just blowing off steam the way she feels she needs to.”
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How can you not understand the jist of what I’m saying? I can’t make the English any more simplistic.
You know, it’s funny you should mention being told of cancer. LOL. Anyway, using that scenario, I WOULD HAVE TO GET OVER IT! I specifically said that everyone deals with things differently, and that being said, a GROWN WOMAN tryin to “shame” someone into some sort of relationship is asinine and ridiculous.
When people do ridiculous things shouldn’t they be prepared for the consequences?
Y’all crazy if y’all think Luke is broke……they said they same thing about MJ(rest his soul)….
Rich people want you to think they broke…LOL Or maybe Luke was trying to throw the groupies off his trail w/them busted AF Ones….
LMAO
now if a man str8 up tells you he dont want kids, HE MEANS IT. ladies, you aint changing him, trust me. nuttin you sanitizing in yo pants gone make him want kids with you-after he utters those words. my advice, if you truly want kids, is to move him to the friend category and turn ur available light back on for the man meant for you.
I watched his reality show a few years ago.. There was an episode where his son from a previous relationship came over for a couple of days. The baby at time was no more than two years old.. So he’s not claiming him either?!?! IJA
@Katgirl33
Maybe he was trying to throw them off……..He looked sick. I mean even if you are broke you wouldn’t come to a club where you are hosting with a leather jacket on that’s 5 sizes to big for you and dirty gym shoes. I was with my husband and we both agreed Luke should just retire..And he is not in the league with MJ!
@ Speak
Thanks, just telling it how I see it
IMO…these kids had/got a way to get in contact with Luke….come on now! Then we got a couple out the bunch who are GROWN, and can take they azzes on the internet, but can’t pick up the phone/get to their dad??
How is them making a video on You Tube/whatever gon get Luke to be there for them????
Wouldn’t calling him be better? Getting in contact with his relatives? Asking they MOTHERS for any information they had on him?? I wonder what the convo was like when the kids asked their mothers what happened……
@mama I agree some people do miss/ignore/overlook the writing on the wall BUT that is not the case for everybody. Divorce happens it is what it is
pointhimout says:
now if a man str8 up tells you he dont want kids, HE MEANS IT. ladies, you aint changing him, trust me. nuttin you sanitizing in yo pants gone make him want kids with you-after he utters those words. my advice, if you truly want kids, is to move him to the friend category and turn ur available light back on for the man meant for you
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Exactly, so you(the mother) are to blame too, should’ve being using another form of contraceptives (birth control) if you just had to have it raw dogged.
I saw people mention the fact the the MOTHER laid down with him without protection but HE DID TOO! She wasn’t the only one that knew the consequences and he didn’t stop her and she didn’t stop him. The child was non-existent when they chose to do this so HOW IS THIS THE CHILD’S FAULT and how does Luke catch slack for abandoning his children. I don’t care what the mother has done it’s still HIS CHILD and the child didn’t CHOOSE TO BE IN THE SITUATION! GTFOH!!!!!!!
katgirl33 says:
IMO…these kids had/got a way to get in contact with Luke….come on now! Then we got a couple out the bunch who are GROWN, and can take they azzes on the internet, but can’t pick up the phone/get to their dad??
How is them making a video on You Tube/whatever gon get Luke to be there for them????
Wouldn’t calling him be better? Getting in contact with his relatives? Asking they MOTHERS for any information they had on him?? I wonder what the convo was like when the kids asked their mothers what happened……
“Mommie, where is my Daddy, and why is he not here?”
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@ Mama
In regards to this statement by you—->>>”I don’t care what the mother has done it’s still HIS CHILD and the child didn’t CHOOSE TO BE IN THE SITUATION! GTFOH”
You must’ve not seen this scenario first hand to understand how the WOMAN can make the situation hard for the man, huh?
FreeToSpeakUp says:
katgirl33 says:
IMO…these kids had/got a way to get in contact with Luke….come on now! Then we got a couple out the bunch who are GROWN, and can take they azzes on the internet, but can’t pick up the phone/get to their dad??
How is them making a video on You Tube/whatever gon get Luke to be there for them????
Wouldn’t calling him be better? Getting in contact with his relatives? Asking they MOTHERS for any information they had on him?? I wonder what the convo was like when the kids asked their mothers what happened……
“Mommie, where is my Daddy, and why is he not here?”
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The kids heard crickets because all mom was thinking about was “DON’T STOP GET IT GET IT…..GET IT GET IT….GET IT GET IT!”
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@ pointhimout #106
True that True that
@MAMACITA
“I saw people mention the fact the the MOTHER laid down with him without protection but HE DID TOO! She wasn’t the only one that knew the consequences and he didn’t stop her and she didn’t stop him. The child was non-existent when they chose to do this so HOW IS THIS THE CHILD’S FAULT and how does Luke catch slack for abandoning his children. I don’t care what the mother has done it’s still HIS CHILD and the child didn’t CHOOSE TO BE IN THE SITUATION! GTFOH!!!!!!!”
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I’m sorry, but if Luke didn’t want the child I don’t see the need in condemning him.
True, he didn’t use protection, shame on him, and he paid the consequence (literally) by paying child support.
You can’t FORCE someone to love something they don’t love. AND that doesn’t make them a bad person.
in my opinion (back in my single days), i never depended on the guy to have condoms cuz i always had my own and wouldn’t dare give it up without one, even if it was a one-night stand. so i fault women who lay down with men unprotected and have babies out of wedlock moreso than the man. women, it’s our bodies that have to carry and nurture babies. if you break up with a man during your pregnancy, the baby doesn’t go away with the relationship. if you have the baby and don’t plan to drop the child off on the man’s doorstep for him to raise and care for, then you can’t complain if it’s years of heartache and frustration trying to get him to take care of the child. we all have choices and are responsible for the repercussions of those choices.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN ONE TO POISON MY CHILDREN MINDS AGAINST THIER FATHER, SOMETIMES YOUR(THE FATHER) ACTIONS WILL DO IT. I HAVE 4 CHILDREN THE FIRST 3 SHARE A FATHER WHO PAYS CHILD SUPPORT, BUT HE DOESN’T SPEND TIME WITH THEM. MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER’S FATHER DON’T HAVE MUCH BUT HE MAKES TIME TO BE WITH HER AND DO THINGS WITH HER. WHO DO YOU THINK HAVE THE HEALTHIER RELATIONSHIP? WHEN I ONLY HAD THE 3 OLDER CHILDREN I WOULD TELL THEIR FATHER TAKE THEM TO THE PARK, A MOVIE, ANYTHING, HE NEVER HAD TIME. MY OLDEST SON IS VERY RESENTFUL TOWARDS HIM BECAUSE HE WAS NOT GOOD TO HIS WORD, HE MADE A LOT OF EMPTY PROMISES…MY SON JUST GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, GUESS WHO COULDN’T TAKE THE TIME OUT TO COME? HE SAID MY BOYFRIEND(DAUGHTER’S FATHER) BEING THERE WAS GOOD ENOUGH! ON FATHER’S DAY, HE TOLD MY DAUGHTER’S FATHER “HAPPY FATHER’S DAY” IN THE SAME TOKEN MY BOYFRIEND HAS A SON WHOSE MOTHER DON’T LET HIM SEE THE HIM, SHE FEELS LIKE HE SHOULD ONLY BE A FATHER TO HIM AND NOT SHARE HIS TIME WITH HIS OTHER CHILDREN. SHE WON’T LET HIM GET HIM FOR THE WEEKEND, SUMMER OR ANYTHING. HE SPEAKS TO HIM ON THE PHONE. WHY SHE DOES THAT? BECAUSE HE IS NOT WITH HER….SO WOMAN AND MEN CAN BE NASTY WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN.
I DON’T AGREE WITH WHAT LUKE SAID, YOU SHOULD NEVER DENY YOUR CHILD(REN). YET, IT PUZZLES ME, HOW IS IT SHE WAS ON THE SHOW, AND HE WAS BEING A DAD, AND NOW HE’S A DEADBEAT?
Look at Al Gore and Tipper. They were together 40 years and now they are getting a divorce. I don’t care how long you know a person, you never totally know a person.
Obviously he wanted the kids when they were on his show.
If he was a good father… there would be nothing the mothers could say because the kids would know their father themselves…Luke is a deadbeat!
I’m just wondering, if Luke knew that he didn’t want kids, and he knew that he didn’t like using protection (at that time), why didn’t he just get a vasectomy? Problem solved.
I can’t believe some people are trying to rationale being a deadbeat father. Fatherhood is more than providing monetary support to your children. It’s about playing an active role in the lives of your children. Loving them unconditionally and supporting their hopes and dreams. Believing in them and nuturing their self-esteem. Spending quality time with them and teaching them morals and values. Creating life-long memories that a child will cherish.
Right MochaC,
Cause word on the street is AG was creepin!
I’m shocked(not)
LOL!
@mochacashmere….my mom always says that.
speakinmymind says:
in my opinion (back in my single days), i never depended on the guy to have condoms cuz i always had my own and wouldn’t dare give it up without one, even if it was a one-night stand. so i fault women who lay down with men unprotected and have babies out of wedlock moreso than the man. women, it’s our bodies that have to carry and nurture babies. if you break up with a man during your pregnancy, the baby doesn’t go away with the relationship. if you have the baby and don’t plan to drop the child off on the man’s doorstep for him to raise and care for, then you can’t complain if it’s years of heartache and frustration trying to get him to take care of the child. we all have choices and are responsible for the repercussions of those choices.
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Cinderella says:
I can’t believe some people are trying to rationale being a deadbeat father. Fatherhood is more than providing monetary support to your children. It’s about playing an active role in the lives of your children. Loving them unconditionally and supporting their hopes and dreams. Believing in them and nuturing their self-esteem. Spending quality time with them and teaching them morals and values. Creating life-long memories that a child will cherish.
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SO SO SO TRUE!
@ Kearalove
You got me laughing @ myself
@Man do you have children?
He didn’t have a problem claiming the kids on his show and now he refers to them as “sperm donations”. Why have them on the show if you don’t want or love them? It’s just strange that he doesn’t even acknowledge them. That’s different. To not love them is one thing but to completely dismiss them like they don’t exist is another. But like others have said, at the end of the day you can’t make a person want you. This just speaks to the type of ignorant person he is…
I want to shout out to Eddie Murphy’s ex wife Nicole. She is a perfect example of what a responsible mother is. When Eddie had Irish with Mel B Nicole made sure she got to know the siblings, took the time to meet with her even when he wouldn’t and I would bet she is the one who encouraged Eddie to met HIS child even though they were no longer together.
People are always trying to crap on single mothers but its because of jack asses like Luke that create these broken homes. Black men you need to do better and the ones who find this behavior acceptable please make sure you superman that ho#
@KEARALOVE
“I’m just wondering, if Luke knew that he didn’t want kids, and he knew that he didn’t like using protection (at that time), why didn’t he just get a vasectomy? Problem solved.”
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Um… yeah, that’s like killing a fly with a gun.
yeah yeah, they can be reversed and are safe blah blah blah.
Let me tell you this 99.99999% of niggas ain’t tryin to get chit cut,snipped,tweaked,chipped,finagled,etc. by the dyck.
Cinderella says:
I can’t believe some people are trying to rationale being a deadbeat father. Fatherhood is more than providing monetary support to your children. It’s about playing an active role in the lives of your children. Loving them unconditionally and supporting their hopes and dreams. Believing in them and nuturing their self-esteem. Spending quality time with them and teaching them morals and values. Creating life-long memories that a child will cherish.
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love your comment. the sad reality is that (for a vast majority of men) if they didn’t have that kind of relationship with their own father growing up, they have no idea how to father their own children in this manner.
FreeToSpeakUp says:
@ Kearalove
You got me laughing @ myself
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When I read your comment, why could I see the mamas puzzay poppin with the c.s. checks in their hands, though?
kearalove says:
FreeToSpeakUp says:
@ Kearalove
You got me laughing @ myself
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When I read your comment, why could I see the mamas puzzay poppin with the c.s. checks in their hands, though?
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When I was typing it even “I” was juking in my chair
@CINDERLLA
“I can’t believe some people are trying to rationale being a deadbeat father. Fatherhood is more than providing monetary support to your children. It’s about playing an active role in the lives of your children. Loving them unconditionally and supporting their hopes and dreams. Believing in them and nuturing their self-esteem. Spending quality time with them and teaching them morals and values. Creating life-long memories that a child will cherish.”
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I will answer if I have children if you explain why it is relevant.
Now, should LITERAL sperm donors also be obligated to “love their offspring unconditionally, support their hopes and dreams, believe in them, nuture them and teach them morals and values?
I’m referring to the sperm donors that go to the hospital and “deposit” sperm. Should they have the same expectations on them?
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@MAMACITA
“I saw people mention the fact the the MOTHER laid down with him without protection but HE DID TOO! She wasn’t the only one that knew the consequences and he didn’t stop her and she didn’t stop him. The child was non-existent when they chose to do this so HOW IS THIS THE CHILD’S FAULT and how does Luke catch slack for abandoning his children. I don’t care what the mother has done it’s still HIS CHILD and the child didn’t CHOOSE TO BE IN THE SITUATION! GTFOH!!!!!!!”
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I’m sorry, but if Luke didn’t want the child I don’t see the need in condemning him.
True, he didn’t use protection, shame on him, and he paid the consequence (literally) by paying child support.
You can’t FORCE someone to love something they don’t love. AND that doesn’t make them a bad person.
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Just when I think you can’t sink to new low, you prove me wrong. Whether or not he wanted the children or not makes no difference. They are here and he’s LEGALLY and MORALLY obligated to take care of them. Not just financially but physically and emotionally. Going by your posts today, I hope you never conceive a child.
It’s a sar reality what MEN and WOMEN do PERIOD. My fingers point both ways not one sided. #thatsall
@ Cinderella, I don’t think anyone on here is justifying deadbeat dads….Luke let stardom go to his head—the second one literally. Now he’s feeling the heat of the choices he made….it’s sad that the kids are obviously feeling it from the choices of their PARENTS….wild and free in the 90s, p***y poppin & ding a ling slanging..
Can’t put it all on Luke….he should get together with them mothers, and get a hold to them kids
To some degree I agree with man. Do actual sperm donors have to love their kids? What’s the difference if a woman has a child by a man who she knew never wanted children. Doesn’t that mean she “just” wants a baby just like women who go to sperm banks? #justsayin
@ Man
Um… yeah, that’s like killing a fly with a gun.
yeah yeah, they can be reversed and are safe blah blah blah.
Let me tell you this 99.99999% of niggas ain’t tryin to get chit cut,snipped,tweaked,chipped,finagled,etc. by the dyck
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Me and the hub just had this discussion and he said the EXACT same thing! Him: “Hellz naw! Ain’t NOBODY coming near my dyck with ANYTHING that’s gonna hurt it” I’m pissed cuz I shoulda just scheduled the dam appointment. :/
@SPEAKIN MY MIND
“in my opinion (back in my single days), i never depended on the guy to have condoms cuz i always had my own and wouldn’t dare give it up without one, even if it was a one-night stand. so i fault women who lay down with men unprotected and have babies out of wedlock moreso than the man. women, it’s our bodies that have to carry and nurture babies. if you break up with a man during your pregnancy, the baby doesn’t go away with the relationship. if you have the baby and don’t plan to drop the child off on the man’s doorstep for him to raise and care for, then you can’t complain if it’s years of heartache and frustration trying to get him to take care of the child. we all have choices and are responsible for the repercussions of those choices.”
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I think this should be distributed everywhere!
Cinderella says:
I can’t believe some people are trying to rationale being a deadbeat father. Fatherhood is more than providing monetary support to your children. It’s about playing an active role in the lives of your children. Loving them unconditionally and supporting their hopes and dreams. Believing in them and nuturing their self-esteem. Spending quality time with them and teaching them morals and values. Creating life-long memories that a child will cherish.
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I will always believe that it takes a Man to teach a man how to be a man, and it takes a man to teach woman how to be treated by a man. So a father not being in the home is a big factor missing. A lot of single parent homes have to make the best of their situation and i truly commend those who take care of business being father and mother but NOTHING will EVER compare to having both parents in the home! There is no substitute for that and no amount of money can change that. The money helps but money doesn’t buy love and happiness. People who don’t think the time matters are a sign of what sad times we live in…
I hear you Free….sperm donors can choose not to have anything to do with the resulting kid.
@Man are you female or male??????
@CINDERELLA
“Just when I think you can’t sink to new low, you prove me wrong. Whether or not he wanted the children or not makes no difference. They are here and he’s LEGALLY and MORALLY obligated to take care of them. Not just financially but physically and emotionally. Going by your posts today, I hope you never conceive a child.”
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Whether he wanted the child or not makes ALL the difference! It’s ridiculous to ignore that fact! LOL. No wonder there are so many …”broken homes” (SMH, most of these “homes” were never fixed).
When you force something unwanted on someone, they RESENT IT. That’s human nature. A baby is no different.
As for child support being “legal”… do you know the HISTORY of child support? It’s little more than legalized black mail so as to not have the cost of unwanted children on the backs of tax payers. The true crime of it all is that tax payers wind up paying more ENFORCING the ignorant laws than they would just supporting the child themselves. LOL.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
I will answer if I have children if you explain why it is relevant.
Now, should LITERAL sperm donors also be obligated to “love their offspring unconditionally, support their hopes and dreams, believe in them, nuture them and teach them morals and values?
I’m referring to the sperm donors that go to the hospital and “deposit” sperm. Should they have the same expectations on them?
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Are you trying to be a smart azz? Actual sperm donors give up their rights to their potential children BEFORE reproduction. There is no connection b/w them and the potential mothers. These men are sometimes compensated for their sperm. You can’t compare these men to males who can’t put on a condom and then turn around and complain when a child is conceived.
katgirl33 says:
I hear you Free….sperm donors can choose not to have anything to do with the resulting kid
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I just think it’s the same thing if a dude tells you he doesn’t want kids before hand because what do you really expect afterwards. Ya know
speakinmymind says:
Cinderella says:
I can’t believe some people are trying to rationale being a deadbeat father. Fatherhood is more than providing monetary support to your children. It’s about playing an active role in the lives of your children. Loving them unconditionally and supporting their hopes and dreams. Believing in them and nuturing their self-esteem. Spending quality time with them and teaching them morals and values. Creating life-long memories that a child will cherish.
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love your comment. the sad reality is that (for a vast majority of men) if they didn’t have that kind of relationship with their own father growing up, they have no idea how to father their own children in this manner.
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This logic to me is a cop out. My father said the same thing, “I don’t know how to be a father. Mine wasn’t there” Think back to all the things your father didn’t do and the lack of action and effort on his part. How did that make you feel? Put that all of that in reverse and now you know how to be a father. Eventually, I just came to the conclusion that you just don’t have an interest in being a father. No matter how many tears I shed, no matter how many pleas were made; if you don’t want to be a father to me, I can’t make you. I tell you, that man could be on fire and I wouldn’t spit on him to put him out. If that man dies today, I wouldn’t shed a tear because he never loved me anyway.
@isc
at your last comment but I feel you. My sister goes out of her way to make sure my neice knows her brother from a different mother.
thaspinaltruth says:
@Man are you female or male
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@Man
I don’t believe that these are actually your views. I think you are playing devil’s advocate. Or maybe you are a deadbeat dad or mother, hell I don’t know. But I don’t believe that you actually believe half of what you are saying.
@Free
I am getting mixed signals, that’s the reason I asked.
@CINDERELLA
“Are you trying to be a smart azz? Actual sperm donors give up their rights to their potential children BEFORE reproduction. There is no connection b/w them and the potential mothers. These men are sometimes compensated for their sperm. You can’t compare these men to males who can’t put on a condom and then turn around and complain when a child is conceived.”
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LOL. I could argue that sperm donors doesn’t in fact give up their right because some have been held liable for child support in courts (you can goole it).
That’s not the point tho. Luke impregnating a woman he didn’t have any sort of relationship is EXACTLY like a sperm donor bustin in a cup and impregnanting a random woman.
I notice you didn’t answer the question however, should sperm donors be expected to have a relationship with children they concieve?
I didn’t grow up with my dad and my parents were MARRIED. He was out by the time I was 2. I never missed him or questioned his absence. I watched my grandfather and uncle as “father figures.” Were they “fathers” to me, no…my mom held it down how they played their roles (grandfather/uncle) well.
@ yvonne79
i agree and disagree with your comments. there’s no cut and dry answer for the situation. i do agree that some men don’t give two shyts about LEARNING how to be a father in spite of growing without one. however, there are some men who are determined not to repeat the mistakes of their own (most likely fatherless) fathers and go to great lengths to nurture relationships with their children.
regarding your own very strained relationship with your father, make the best choice for YOU which is always the path of forgiveness and acceptance. acceptance is realizing that everyone (including mothers and fathers) aren’t and may never be as mature emotionally and/or spiritually as you are, and loving/accepting them exactly where they are and how they are. resentment and longheld anger are only detrimental to you in the long run.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
Exactly what signals are you considering mixed?
@FreeToSpeakUp-
To some degree I agree with man. Do actual sperm donors have to love their kids? What’s the difference if a woman has a child by a man who she knew never wanted children. Doesn’t that mean she “just” wants a baby just like women who go to sperm banks?
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I don’t think that sperm donors have to love their kids, but the difference between them and men in luke’s situation is that luke n**ted inside of the baby mamas without a rubber-irresponsible.
If a man that has money tells a groupie or girlfriend that he doesn’t want kids, is it realistic to think that the woman will take heed and abort the child? Or would she keep it as her meal ticket? Being a man of luke’s status at the time, I am sure that he knew that the broads didn’t care whether or not he wanted children. So why was he raw-dogging groupies. Why is it the children’s fault?
If a woman has a child with a man that she knows doesn’t want kids, she should kick herself for that, but don’t take it out on the kids. If a man knows that he doesn’t want kids, get a snip-snip or always use a rubber or 2.
@Man,
You are funny and very entertaining. Why do you tap dance around the questions that you are being asked? Do you have children? Are you male or female? Or what are you? Inquiring minds want to know??
@Man I was the one who asked whether you had kids or not. It was just a question…I don’t think you would make some of the statements you’re making if you had some that you actually take care of IMO. But you may have some so idk…
keekee83 says:
I don’t think that sperm donors have to love their kids, but the difference between them and men in luke’s situation is that luke n**ted inside of the baby mamas without a rubber-irresponsible.
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Doesn’t the groupie take responsibility for that as well?
@KEE KEE 83
“I don’t think that sperm donors have to love their kids, but the difference between them and men in luke’s situation is that luke n**ted inside of the baby mamas without a rubber-irresponsible.
If a man that has money tells a groupie or girlfriend that he doesn’t want kids, is it realistic to think that the woman will take heed and abort the child? Or would she keep it as her meal ticket? Being a man of luke’s status at the time, I am sure that he knew that the broads didn’t care whether or not he wanted children. So why was he raw-dogging groupies. Why is it the children’s fault?
If a woman has a child with a man that she knows doesn’t want kids, she should kick herself for that, but don’t take it out on the kids. If a man knows that he doesn’t want kids, get a snip-snip or always use a rubber or 2.”
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Why does it make a difference whether he bust in a cup or inside of her? You know females always sayin they on the pill and chit like that so IF that is the case we should “fault” Luke for believing it????
Even if he was “irresponsible” for not putting on a rubber, he fulfilled his **legal**
obligation by paying the child support.
WHY SHOULD HE BE FORCED INTO A RELATIONSHIP HE NEVER WANTED? I don’t understand that. What other circumstance is a person FORCED into a relationship they don’t want?
speakinmymind says:
@ yvonne79
i agree and disagree with your comments. there’s no cut and dry answer for the situation. i do agree that some men don’t give two shyts about LEARNING how to be a father in spite of growing without one. however, there are some men who are determined not to repeat the mistakes of their own (most likely fatherless) fathers and go to great lengths to nurture relationships with their children.
regarding your own very strained relationship with your father, make the best choice for YOU which is always the path of forgiveness and acceptance. acceptance is realizing that everyone (including mothers and fathers) aren’t and may never be as mature emotionally and/or spiritually as you are, and loving/accepting them exactly where they are and how they are. resentment and longheld anger are only detrimental to you in the long run.
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I don’t think I came across as resentful. As someone said up top, a child no matter how old they get always desire a relationship with the missing parent. At 17, I would reach out to this man and try to build a relationship with him. For whatever reason, he would make empty promises and simply wouldn’t put forth an effort to try and get to know me and my brother. Eventually, he stopped answering my emails and phone calls. He has another daughter from his ex wife and is the same EXACT way with her too. After a while, I said bump it. You don’t want to have a realationship with me, I can’t make you. He is who he is- I can’t change it. If he calls, when I feel like it; I may pick up the phone and have a dialogue with him but I don’t proactively try anymore.
@ KeeKee
Women TOO are wrong for having children from men that aren’t suitable to be fathers. In my book, both parents are wrong. Men get bashed and the women always get away with the crime(wrongdoing). It’s not the childs fault HOWEVER I didn’t read Luke’s statement in black and white.
I saw(sort to speak): There’s no use in crying over spilled milk, I made mistakes, the mothers anger, I tried and it didn’t work, my child angry calling deadbeat so if I am a deadbeat, I donation my sperm and the kids are therefore sperm donation kids. Since they won’t help me make the situation better cause they bitter, I am just gonna make this thing work with my wife/kid.
and ALSO why are people acting like abortion is on every woman’s agenda. Have you ever considered that some people just don’t want to have one. I need for people to stop thinking that it’s just a simple decision to KILL YOUR CHILD!
Maybe she didn’t want an abortion…maybe they did have a condom and it came off, maybe she was on bc and it FAILED (it’s not 100% you know)? Accidents do happen and for you to think that having an abortion is the easy answer is just ignorant smh.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“You are funny and very entertaining. Why do you tap dance around the questions that you are being asked? Do you have children? Are you male or female? Or what are you? Inquiring minds want to know??”
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I’m “tapdancing” around them because people tend to “consider the messenger” and not “the message.”
I’m trying to avoid that. At the end of the day, I feel
-Luke’s daughter is grown
-Luke paid his child support
-Luke was equivalent to sperm donor and not obligated to a relationship
-Luke’s daughter needs to get over it
-Luke’s daughter could have handled things without going public to shame
-Luke’s daughter should accept the consequences of going public like she did
@ Man
You got a point.
*Disclaimer to All: I am a woman, with a child, a husband who has other children and I have a baby daddy, grew up without a dad. I am the 1% to kind of agree with Man.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
LOL. I could argue that sperm donors doesn’t in fact give up their right because some have been held liable for child support in courts (you can goole it).
That’s not the point tho. Luke impregnating a woman he didn’t have any sort of relationship is EXACTLY like a sperm donor bustin in a cup and impregnanting a random woman.
I notice you didn’t answer the question however, should sperm donors be expected to have a relationship with children they concieve?
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ACTUAL sperm donors who deposit sperm at a SPERM BANK shouldn’t be expected to have a relationship with the children that are conceived.
Having unprotected sex with a person you don’t know/don’t have a relationship with isn’t the same as donating sperm.
@MAMA
“and ALSO why are people acting like abortion is on every woman’s agenda. Have you ever considered that some people just don’t want to have one. I need for people to stop thinking that it’s just a simple decision to KILL YOUR CHILD! Maybe she didn’t want an abortion…maybe they did have a condom and it came off, maybe she was on bc and it FAILED (it’s not 100% you know)? Accidents do happen and for you to think that having an abortion is the easy answer is just ignorant smh.”
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Who said having an abortion was “easy?” And she did have the OPTION of abortion. That’s just the reality of it.
@CINDERELLA
“ACTUAL sperm donors who deposit sperm at a SPERM BANK shouldn’t be expected to have a relationship with the children that are conceived.
Having unprotected sex with a person you don’t know/don’t have a relationship with isn’t the same as donating sperm.”
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Please, explain the difference.
@yvonne79
i understand and i wasn’t trying to sound judgmental. guess what i shoulda said is that FOR ME, I’VE FOUND IT BEST to forgive and accept where my parents are concerned. yes, i can always look back and want what i didn’t have, but i choose to accept that maybe they just weren’t capable (or didn’t want to) of giving me what i wanted/needed. decisions they made over the course of my childhood that were hurtful to me, i choose to think that they made the best decisions they could with what they knew at the time. i call it the path of least resistance. the older i get, i realize that we all fukk up in major ways and sometimes guilt/shame will keep us from rectifying a situation where we deeply hurt someone close to us. maybe your dad is afraid of owning up to his faults as a father and avoidance is easier for him – doesn’t make it right, but that just may be his way of dealing with the situation.
I’m sure something happened and has it has everything to do with money. They seemed cool on the show so I’m sure him saying those nasty things comes from his kids probably doing the same…yeah yeah he is adult but at the end of the day he is a hood ni**a.
“When you force something unwanted on someone, they RESENT IT. That’s human nature. A baby is no different.”- MAN
^^ I agree 100% because my sister is dealing with that right now with my niece’s father.
And someone please tell me what makes luke a deadbeat dad?? Cuz last time he is supporting his kids while their moms lay up at home… #imjustsaying
Black men you need to do better and the ones who find this behavior acceptable please make sure you superman that ho#
;rofl:
that was a
@ Sandra-
Yes the groupies do have to take responsibility for that, but people are going hard on Luke’s babymamas and not acknowledging the fact that those broads were looking for a careless rich rapper to impregnate them. It is not right, but it is still not the child’s fault.
@ Man-
It is sad that you don’t see the difference between bustin in a cup and bustin in a woman. Yes it is Luke’s fault for believing a chick in the same way that it would be a woman’s fault for believing that a man was always going to be there for her and raise their child when the woman didn’t really know the man. Luke is not obligated to love his children. There are plenty of a–holes out here that treat their children like crap because THEY made the mistake and now THEY have to live with it.
@ FreeToSpeakUp-you are right it is both parents fault. It just seems that some people are blaming the daughter for wanting attention and affection from a parent, and blaming only the mother for having sex with someone unprotected that knew he didn’t want kids at the time. Now the kids are sperm donations.
pyt305 says:
I’m sure something happened and has it has everything to do with money. They seemed cool on the show so I’m sure him saying those nasty things comes from his kids probably doing the same…yeah yeah he is adult but at the end of the day he is a hood ni**a.
“When you force something unwanted on someone, they RESENT IT. That’s human nature. A baby is no different.”- MAN
^^ I agree 100% because my sister is dealing with that right now with my niece’s father.
And someone please tell me what makes luke a deadbeat dad?? Cuz last time he is supporting his kids while their moms lay up at home… #imjustsaying
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“Black
menPEOPLE you need to do better and the ones who find this behavior acceptable please make sure you superman that ho# OR GET SUPERMANNED“@Man
Luke cannot be compared to a sperm donor
I might have agreed with you a little except:
Obviously, he had some relationship with his other kids previous to this incident…we know this because we saw on his “reality show”. If he wanted to claim he was a sperm donor, he should have done so from the moment they were born. You can’t act like a daddy then when your kids get outta like say they’re sperm donations. Obviously at one point he claimed them and seemed to love them.
I can’t imagine my dad disowning me after every mistake I’ve made…once again…I have to give a
to my Daddy!!!
KeeKee83 says:
@ FreeToSpeakUp-you are right it is both parents fault. It just seems that some people are blaming the daughter for wanting attention and affection from a parent, and blaming only the mother for having sex with someone unprotected that knew he didn’t want kids at the time. Now the kids are sperm donations.
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I can’t pity with a child 18 ranting and raving on a video about her father and I’m a child that was raised without my father. the world heard her and now what? The problem still isn’t solved and the past can not be erased and going public isn’t going to make the situation no better than it was.
@ Man, It’s sad that you don’t understand the difference and need an explanation. My father didn’t have a lot of money but he was there. He taught me how to tie my shoes, ride a bike w/o training wheels and not a day went by that he didn’t tell that he loved me. During his offtime, he spent quality time with me and my siblings. He took us grocery shopping on Sundays and to the park and Red Lobster on Saturdays. Im a grown woman and he calls me a few times a week to check in on me. He sends me Valentine’s Cards and gives me advice about everything. I love my father and can’t imagine my life w/o him. My heart breaks for people who haven’t experienced fatherly love.
*when your kids get out of line
@KEE KEE 83
“It is sad that you don’t see the difference between bustin in a cup and bustin in a woman. Yes it is Luke’s fault for believing a chick in the same way that it would be a woman’s fault for believing that a man was always going to be there for her and raise their child when the woman didn’t really know the man. Luke is not obligated to love his children. There are plenty of a–holes out here that treat their children like crap because THEY made the mistake and now THEY have to live with it.”
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By all means, please let me know the pertinent differences between bustin in a cup and bustin in this groupie?
You know what, I DO agree it was Luke’s fault for not being more cautious with this woman being in that the laws are set up to black mail. He is completely at fault in that regard. That being he said, he PAID FOR IT, LITEREALLY.
A lot of men that “treat their children like crap because THEY made the mistake” do so do to the fact that unwanted kids are legally forced on them and they resent the child instead of the laws. I don’t believe a man should be FORCED to have a relationship he doesn’t want, but I also don’t think that gives anyone a right to abuse someone else.
@ Cinderella
No daggers at you but my heart aches for those who haven’t experienced love at all. The kids without ANY love/support from family but family doesn’t always have to be biological. Biological family can make you worse than what you are, but that’s another story on another day.
@CINDERELLA
“It’s sad that you don’t understand the difference and need an explanation.”
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Well I find it “sad” that it has yet to be “expalined” to me.
Now, I REQUESTED an explanation because I wanted to here people’s rationale. Sadly, I KNEW no one would comply with this request because they know that the truth is, given the scenario, there are no differences. Except for how the act if physically carried out, but in principal, it’s the same. That’s why no one answered and that is sad.
I had to come out of lurk mode for this!! What a basta*d!!! If he has 5 kids, why is he only claiming one?! That makes no sense at all! How sad it must be for the other 4 children to read this and see that he isn’t claiming them. What a sad excuse for a man and father!!!
both the groupie and him have the responsibility to take care of that child nomatter how he or she were conceived at the end of the day he was just so wrong for calling his kids spearm donations no kids should hear their FATHER treat them as a donation
speakinmymind says:
@yvonne79
i understand and i wasn’t trying to sound judgmental. guess what i shoulda said is that FOR ME, I’VE FOUND IT BEST to forgive and accept where my parents are concerned. yes, i can always look back and want what i didn’t have, but i choose to accept that maybe they just weren’t capable (or didn’t want to) of giving me what i wanted/needed. decisions they made over the course of my childhood that were hurtful to me, i choose to think that they made the best decisions they could with what they knew at the time. i call it the path of least resistance. the older i get, i realize that we all fukk up in major ways and sometimes guilt/shame will keep us from rectifying a situation where we deeply hurt someone close to us. maybe your dad is afraid of owning up to his faults as a father and avoidance is easier for him – doesn’t make it right, but that just may be his way of dealing with the situation.
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No worries, I didn’t take your comment as being judgmental. I completely understand your point of view. I just don’t take too kindly to men using the “I don’t know how to be a father” excuse as a reason why they chose not to be involved in their child’s life.
that is flucked UP.
how would he feel if he knew the only reason he is here is cause his momma couldn’t afford the $200 to abort HIS azz?
somebody donated for him too.
@KWALL
“that is flucked UP.
how would he feel if he knew the only reason he is here is cause his momma couldn’t afford the $200 to abort HIS azz?
somebody donated for him too.”
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Than Lecretia needs to do like he did and pic up a mike and start rapping.
#teamgetoverchitandmoveon
@Free, In a perfect world, people will only have children when they’re are ready to become parents and deal with the challenges. I disagree with you on the 18 year old thing in regards to the daughter. When I was 18, I was still living at home, going to school full-time and working part-time. I come from a close-knit family that doesn’t kick you out just because you’re an adult. Some people may view it as spoiling but I see it as love.
I am wondering why he said he only have one child to support. I watch his show & he had a young baby boy cause it was his first time meeting him..cuase he said he had a blood test done & he & the child mother didn’t get along
i had a male friend once who said that a stank female he was messing around with made him a father without his permission…NO nukka you made your owndayumself a pappy…you had a chance to make a decision THREE times…and you BLEW it…you had a chance when….
a. decided to lay down with the trollop. you coulda just got some head.
b. when you proceeded to hit that without wrapping it up.
c. when you couldn’t control yourself and skeeted all up in.
i told him i was being so frank and real cause i am his friend so i can do that. but when you wrong…you wrong. told him that is NOT their little girl fault that her momma was a STD (something to do) and her dad was a big dummy.
That’s why no one answered and that is sad.
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Too lazy too read, but too nosey not to want in…
What’s the question?
@Man
If I can get to the core of the person, then I can get a better understanding of the reasons behind you comments. Sometimes people reject the message because of the the person delivering the message can sometimes come off as a hypocrite or the lack thereof….
@KWALL
“i had a male friend once who said that a stank female he was messing around with made him a father without his permission…NO nukka you made your owndayumself a pappy…you had a chance to make a decision THREE times…and you BLEW it…you had a chance when….
a. decided to lay down with the trollop. you coulda just got some head.
b. when you proceeded to hit that without wrapping it up.
c. when you couldn’t control yourself and skeeted all up in.
i told him i was being so frank and real cause i am his friend so i can do that. but when you wrong…you wrong. told him that is NOT their little girl fault that her momma was a STD (something to do) and her dad was a big dummy.”
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Didn’t SHE have MONTHS to take birth control, the SAME option of “head” and a condom that you mentioned for him AND MONTHS to have an abortion???
Yet, he is
black mailed“legally bound” to pay equally for an unequal decision. SMH.He was right.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“If I can get to the core of the person, then I can get a better understanding of the reasons behind you comments. Sometimes people reject the message because of the the person delivering the message can sometimes come off as a hypocrite or the lack thereof….”
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Exactly. A message can stand on it’s own merits. Which is why, for now, I’m ignoring the question. (I’m sure someone will inform you however)
That being said, is there something that I said that you specifically agree/disagree with?
If so, what?
@Man I bascially disagree with all of it. But I was just making convo and killing time. If you are that secretive about your gender and whether or not you have children, then maybe there is a bigger issue and maybe you should be the topic for today.. LOL
yes @man she had the options you spell out but it takes TWO. decision won’t unequal…
and what part of she was a stank hoe did you miss? lol. stank hoes don’t take birth control. stank hoes don’t have TIME to fund raise for a termination…they too busy being stank!!!! but HE knew she was stank just like SHE knew. he was dumb…she was stank and i pray erryday for their sweet lil baby. cause with DNA like that (a dumb azz for a dad and a hoe for a momma) she might be doomed.
I say blackball his butt. Take that damn uncle off his name too.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“I bascially disagree with all of it. But I was just making convo and killing time. If you are that secretive about your gender and whether or not you have children, then maybe there is a bigger issue and maybe you should be the topic for today.. LOL”
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So you believe relationships should be FORCED onto people who don’t want them?????
You agree that Lucreeeeeesha should have gone public to try and shame someone into
footing her bills“having a relationshp” with her???SMH. I tell ya.
And I’m far from secretive. I’ve discussed those questions numerous times on here. I just don’t feel it is pertinent to what I’m saying. Either you agree or you don’t. My personal life shouldn’t influence your determination one way or another.
@ Man, It’s sad that you don’t understand the difference and need an explanation. My father didn’t have a lot of money but he was there. He taught me how to tie my shoes, ride a bike w/o training wheels and not a day went by that he didn’t tell that he loved me. During his offtime, he spent quality time with me and my siblings. He took us grocery shopping on Sundays and to the park and Red Lobster on Saturdays. Im a grown woman and he calls me a few times a week to check in on me. He sends me Valentine’s Cards and gives me advice about everything. I love my father and can’t imagine my life w/o him. My heart breaks for people who haven’t experienced fatherly love.
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Your father sounds like a wonderful man. My father died when I was 3 so I never got to form that type of relationship with him. Someone mentioned earlier that nothing is more important for a daughter than having a relationship with her father. That is so true. I spent a lot of my teenage and earlier adulthood years looking for that type of love in the arms of the wrong men and I was hurt many times over. I feel that if my father was able to be in my life, I may have been able to realize early on when a man wasn’t giving me the respect I deserved and bounced. I can’t relate to the people who have fathers that are living and that are not in their lives, but I can understand the void that is left when there is no father figure around.
@Man
I think you are one to hide behind your computer. You probably didn’t to voice your opinion except when you are here. You probably type things just to see what reaction you will get or who will agree with you. I don’t think that people should forced into loving someone. But I think that A father shouldn’t disown his child. Maybe you hide your personal business because there is a deeper issue going on with you. This computer is a way that you can have control for once in your life. So you say I don’t have to tell my gender if I want to.
@Man So you said she needs to suck it up and accept that fact the he doesn’t love her and never wanted her but why can’t he suck it up and accept the fact that he brought a child in this world and HE IS HER FATHER!
Isn’t it the same thing….accepting the situation you’ve been given and make the best of it? Why does he get a pass and he doesn’t have to accept HIS REALITY but SHE DOES? Kinda contradictory don’t you think???????
What's going on up in here??
When you
, isn’t it to pro-create?
The peen fits into the va-jay-jay for that purpose, right? No BC is 100%. The only thing that can prevent that is abstinence and masturbation.
So EVERYONE runs a chance of becoming a parent, whether you just looking for that nut or not. If you take that risk, you should be willing to deal with the consequences. IMO
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“I think you are one to hide behind your computer. You probably didn’t to voice your opinion except when you are here. You probably type things just to see what reaction you will get or who will agree with you. I don’t think that people should forced into loving someone. But I think that A father shouldn’t disown his child. Maybe you hide your personal business because there is a deeper issue going on with you. This computer is a way that you can have control for once in your life. So you say I don’t have to tell my gender if I want to.”
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I think you are one to try to “analyze” those who have a view point vastly different from your own. Perhaps because their viewpoint has a logic that you were aware of, but hoped to never openly acknowledge.
Being threatened by such a thing, one begins to rationalize the possilbe motivations of one that would dare speak of an obvious and ugly truth. The theories abound from “you must be this ugly thing of which you speak” to “you are acting out” or some variation of the like.
Never does one want to acknowledge the pure practicality of what is said.
Yes, a FATHER shouldn’t disown his child, but donating sperm does not make one a “Father.” I’m not sure why you feel I am “hiding” something when I clearly stated that all of your questions have been discussed at length before. Maybe it’s because you don’t want to consider what I am saying.
Seems like Luke and Teddy Riley’s chickens have come home to roost. Well they are men; better late than never.
@MAMACITA
“So you said she needs to suck it up and accept that fact the he doesn’t love her and never wanted her but why can’t he suck it up and accept the fact that he brought a child in this world and HE IS HER FATHER! Isn’t it the same thing….accepting the situation you’ve been given and make the best of it? Why does he get a pass and he doesn’t have to accept HIS REALITY but SHE DOES? Kinda contradictory don’t you think???????”
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HE DID THAT ALREADY! He paid for a child he never agreed to have for 18 years due to the ignorant laws that force him to do it!
What else does he need to do???????????
He accepted the consequences, 18 years of
black mail“child support” and moved on. Exactly what else are you proposing that he “accept?”He should be FORCED to endure a relationship he doens’t want as well? I guess that will be the next “law” to pass. LOL.
SMH.
Exactly what else are you proposing that he “accept?”
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that its his blood. his DNA.
accept being a man?
become a (GASP) human?
accept that HE was a dumb azz out there risking HIS life for a nut but got a baby instead?
MAN SAYS:
Being threatened by such a thing, one begins to rationalize the possilbe motivations of one that would dare speak of an obvious and ugly truth.
ummm, I think not.
Actually I think that everything you mention you are referring to yourself. You are striving to be, think and act different, yet you are the very essence of what you described. If I stroll up and read all of your comments, you seem like one who speaks from experience, Whether you are the child or the father. I bet you are speaking from your own encounter. You sound like someone who is trying to justify something to your own self. I am just making convo, not trying to analyze anything, you however are trying to.
What a phucking douche bag. Hell he’s doing her a big favor, why would she want that a$$hole with that type of sorry bytch a$$ mentality in her life anyway? Shyt I’d say good riddance to his punk a$$!!
Man says:
“Exactly what else are you proposing that he “accept?”
uhhhhhhh maybe the fact that she’s his child! He said “I have one kid” sounds like he’s not accepting the fact that he has 4 other children.
“He paid for a child he never agreed to have for 18 years due to the ignorant laws that force him to do it! “, “…18 years of black mail “child support””
Please explain how child support is black mail? This is why I asked if you have children…they need food, shelter, clothing, utilities, day care, college expenses, shoes, and the list goes on…how is making the person who helped bring them into the world pay up for these things the child CAN”T LIVE WITHOUT blackmail????? Clearly you don’t have children to take car of which is why I asked if you had children.
@KWALL
“Exactly what else are you proposing that he “accept?”
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that its his blood. his DNA.
accept being a man?
become a (GASP) human?
accept that HE was a dumb azz out there risking HIS life for a nut but got a baby instead?”
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Ummm… he did that. He has 18 years worth of cancelled checks to prove it.
At what point do people need to get over chit????? When did that go out of style????
@ man I dint have a father in my life and it affected me so much i always looked for a mans love….and now my sons father tells everybody yes he is my son but i dont care so tell me how do i explain this to my son when he ask for his father???? do i tell him to get over it??
Ummm… he did that.
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ummmm….no he didn’t. when you do that you NEVER stop.
being a man never stops.
accepting your kid as your own never stops.
the job of a parent never stops.
@MAN
I am sorry that you had a rough childhood, that you were molested, and I am sorry for what you are going through now. But I am not going to tell you to get over it, but rather face it. You don’t have to lash out at anybody, lash out at your own demons.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“Actually I think that everything you mention you are referring to yourself. You are striving to be, think and act different, yet you are the very essence of what you described. If I stroll up and read all of your comments, you seem like one who speaks from experience, Whether you are the child or the father. I bet you are speaking from your own encounter. You sound like someone who is trying to justify something to your own self. I am just making convo, not trying to analyze anything, you however are trying to.”
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Right, which is why I didn’t give you perosnal information about myself. “You seem like…” and “I bet…” blah blah blah. It is completely irrelevant to what I am saying and people only use it as a way to reassure themselves to NOT consider what someone is saying.
Which, in the end, is ignorant.
I haven’t analyzed anyone, nor do I really care too, I’m just asking logical questions and making logical statements to pass the time.
But I would like to hear other peoples line of thinking of exactly what else the dude was supposed to do if he didn’t want a relationship with the child.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“I am sorry that you had a rough childhood, that you were molested, and I am sorry for what you are going through now. But I am not going to tell you to get over it, but rather face it. You don’t have to lash out at anybody, lash out at your own demons.”
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LOL.
Yeah, I must have had a rough childhood and been molested because SURELY there is no basis in the fact that this grown azz woman needs to move on and you can’t force a grown azz man to have a relationship with someone he doesn’t want to have a relationship with.
loooool. I mean, there is absolutely NO WAY there could be in any truth in that…
i see this is not going anywhere @man. when you have some kids and grow some feelings we can revisit this convo.
and not feelings that end after 18 years either. real feelings.
@LAKER CRAZY
“I dint have a father in my life and it affected me so much i always looked for a mans love….and now my sons father tells everybody yes he is my son but i dont care so tell me how do i explain this to my son when he ask for his father???? do i tell him to get over it??”
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If his father doesn’t want to be in his life, or isn’t claiming him, than you tell him the truth.
He will have no choice but to get over it.
exactly what else the dude was supposed to do if he didn’t want a relationship with the child.
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have a vasectomy.
wear a condom.
@man
Actually you are wrong. If you are a man I can kind of understand why you make such heartless comments. Because women tend to be a little bit more emotional. You however, don’t show any signs of emotion. Which brings me to my next comment. You had to such a dark path to not show any type of emotion towards the children of Luke. They are the only ones sufferring. I don’t think you get that. Yeah, Yeah I get it he doesn’t want a relationship with them, but does that make it right??? So I guess if your husband/wife comes and say I don’t want a relationship with you are you going to just deal with it??? If your boss fires you tomorrow and you have a ton of bills to pay are you going to just deal with that? If your mother tells you she doesn’t love you any more and don’t call her, are you going to just deal with that?
I’m just asking….
@man the thing about that is that a child cannot get over the fac that ur father does not want nothing to do with him that child will grown up with self estem issues u will never get over the fact that ur own blood does not love u or accept u….i understand what u are saying he will have to get over it but that will shape the kind of person he is so deep down inside u cant never get over that…..
@man so you’re not gonna answer my question huh…
@KWALL
“Ummm… he did that.”
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“ummmm….no he didn’t. when you do that you NEVER stop.
being a man never stops.
accepting your kid as your own never stops.
the job of a parent never stops.”
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Ok, so in regards to Lucreeeeesha, Luke should ______________.
He has paid his child support, she is 18. Are you saying he should be in her life, when he never wanted her in the first place?
@man
GIRL/MAN/BOY/GIRL there is no truth in that. Come on now
@KWALL
“exactly what else the dude was supposed to do if he didn’t want a relationship with the child.
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have a vasectomy.
wear a condom.”
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And he PAID for that. He can’t change the past. She’s here, he paid for her, and everybody should move on.
What am I missing here?
@MAMA
“so you’re not gonna answer my question huh…”
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What question?
@MAMACITA
MAN isn’t going to answer that question. I kind of like the fact that Man stands firm. He/She has a great set of balls or what have you….
@LAKER CRAZY
“the thing about that is that a child cannot get over the fac that ur father does not want nothing to do with him that child will grown up with self estem issues u will never get over the fact that ur own blood does not love u or accept u….i understand what u are saying he will have to get over it but that will shape the kind of person he is so deep down inside u cant never get over that…..”
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Yes they can, and they do everyday. Children are incredibly resilient. Yes, some will struggle with it and some will deal with it worse than others. But at some point, they will have to just deal with it.
That’s life.
And don’t automatically buy into that “my life is fugged up” syndrome because it becomes a “self-fulfilling prophecy.”
Lurking…But real quick, it’s unhealthy to drag the children through the mud on the situation. The best way to heal is to move forward, learn from your father/mothers mistakes and grow from that. Now I am going back to the
WELL, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM AN ARTIST WITH LYRICS LIKE DO DO BROWN – GET LOW, MORE HEAD, ECT. COME ON SON!!! PAY THEM KIDS-
If I am following correctly, I think I stand with @Man on this one.
Lucresa should move on with her life and use her poor excuse of a father to guide her choices in men…and her mama (who obviously played a role).
This girl is bitter. She said it herself: “55yo rapper with a baby.”
I empathize with her pain, but I would also urge her to let go. This is learned behavior. Holding on to a man that don’t want to be held on to… :/
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“Actually you are wrong. If you are a man I can kind of understand why you make such heartless comments. Because women tend to be a little bit more emotional. You however, don’t show any signs of emotion. Which brings me to my next comment. You had to such a dark path to not show any type of emotion towards the children of Luke. They are the only ones sufferring. I don’t think you get that. Yeah, Yeah I get it he doesn’t want a relationship with them, but does that make it right??? So I guess if your husband/wife comes and say I don’t want a relationship with you are you going to just deal with it??? If your boss fires you tomorrow and you have a ton of bills to pay are you going to just deal with that? If your mother tells you she doesn’t love you any more and don’t call her, are you going to just deal with that?
I’m just asking….”
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I didn’t say I didn’t empathize with Luke’s kids. I sure they struggled or what have you. That doesn’t justify his daughter trying to manipulate this man into either giving her MORE money or having a relationship with her.
Life is hard and it isn’t fair.
And yes, if all of those things happened to me I would be hurt, but I would GET OVER IT. That’s exactly what I would do.
Hell, I wouldn’t even be “hurt” about the job because everywhere pays the same green money. You can love your job but it will never love you.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
“the thing about that is that a child cannot get over the fac that ur father does not want nothing to do with him that child will grown up with self estem issues u will never get over the fact that ur own blood does not love u or accept u….
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That’s only true in the case of small children. Luke’s kids are fully grown freeloaders who need to get jobs to support themselves. I agree with him that he only has one child — the baby. The rest of his kids are adults.
My father wasn’t in my life, but I really didn’t need him anyway. I have a wonderful Grandfather, and a wonderful stepfather. But I am not bitter. I am doing so good for myself. I have things I never imagine I would have. But now that I am balling out of control, guess who wants to show up with a hand out.. I’m like nicca please. Get the freak out of here. So in that aspect, I can see what you are saying MAN. But I didn’t just get over it. I saw the effect that had on myh life years later. I would date guys and then kick them to the curb, not caring about their feelings. That was wrong. But I forgave myself and God forgave me for those actions, because I knew where that seed grew from.
i wonder if lucretia hit the lottery today if he would have a change of heart?
* and i rebuke her momma for naming her that ish….
i don’t believe you can ‘get over’ not having an absentee parent in your life anymore than you can ‘get over’ the death of a parent. you learn to live with the reality of the situation. how you live with that reality is a personal choice…some mothers enroll their fatherless sons in Big Brothers or other mentoring groups. Coaches, youth ministers, uncles, grandfathers, etc. can all be ‘fathers’, and although none of them can replace the biological father, they can train a young boy in the ways of manhood.
@SANDRA
“the thing about that is that a child cannot get over the fac that ur father does not want nothing to do with him that child will grown up with self estem issues u will never get over the fact that ur own blood does not love u or accept u….”-Man, I just don’t care™““the thing about that is that a child cannot get over the fac that ur father does not want nothing to do with him that child will grown up with self estem issues u will never get over the fact that ur own blood does not love u or accept u….”–LAKER CRAZY
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That’s only true in the case of small children. Luke’s kids are fully grown freeloaders who need to get jobs to support themselves. I agree with him that he only has one child — the baby. The rest of his kids are adults.
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AND I agree with you, “…fully grown free loaders who need to get jobs to support themselves…”
@speak
well said, you don’t get over it, but you can learn to live with it.
I posted this earlier but I’ll post it again…
@Man
“Exactly what else are you proposing that he “accept?”-MAN
uhhhhhhh maybe the fact that she’s his child! He said “I have one kid” sounds like he’s not accepting the fact that he has 4 other children.
“He paid for a child he never agreed to have for 18 years due to the ignorant laws that force him to do it! “, “…18 years of black mail “child support””-MAN
Please explain how child support is black mail? This is why I asked if you have children…they need food, shelter, clothing, utilities, day care, college expenses, shoes, and the list goes on…how is making the person who helped bring them into the world pay up for these things the child CAN”T LIVE WITHOUT blackmail????? Clearly you don’t have children to take car of which is why I asked if you had children.
@ OTB and Sandra
He doesnt have kids @Mama.
aqtpie says:
What a phucking douche bag. Hell he’s doing her a big favor, why would she want that a$$hole with that type of sorry bytch a$$ mentality in her life anyway? Shyt I’d say good riddance to his punk a$$!!
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How is your relationship with your dad, if you don’t mind me asking?
@Sandra/Man
At 18 year old, you should be in college, Luke should supoprt his kids through college, let them get degree and a career and then I can understand where he is coming from. What is that girl suppose to do now. You know good and well she ain’t ready for the world at 18 years old. She just finished high school.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“My father wasn’t in my life, but I really didn’t need him anyway. I have a wonderful Grandfather, and a wonderful stepfather. But I am not bitter. I am doing so good for myself. I have things I never imagine I would have. But now that I am balling out of control, guess who wants to show up with a hand out.. I’m like nicca please. Get the freak out of here. So in that aspect, I can see what you are saying MAN. But I didn’t just get over it. I saw the effect that had on myh life years later. I would date guys and then kick them to the curb, not caring about their feelings. That was wrong. But I forgave myself and God forgave me for those actions, because I knew where that seed grew from.”
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That’s right.
We can debate the ambiguity of “get over it” or what have you, but the point is there is nothing anyone can do about it.
You can’t FORCE someone to have a relationship with you. It’s impossible, so they have no choice but to move on.
kwall says:
Since he doesn’t have a relationship with his kids except ONE then HE obviously knew he didn’t want to be a be a father. If I knew I didn’t want to be a mother, then I’m tying my damn tubes!!
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have a vasectomy.
wear a condom.
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I can’t believe this
punk a$$ b***hman didn’t know at the age of 49/50 what it takes to not become a father to kids that he obviously doesn’t want. This girl may be 18 but he has a son that just turned 16 & a 3 year old he “donated sperm for” and is not a father to.Mans Says:
You can’t FORCE someone to have a relationship with you.
That was never my arguement. Whether or not you want to admit it or not, somethings you can’t get over. Something will affect you subconsciencously without you even knowing it.
Don’t get it twisted… *Miss Celie fingers and voice* Luke is a low down dirty dog!
BUT he has done what is legally required.
Meeting moral requirements is a different thing.
His new wife must be quite a peach. Who would play house with a man who spoke about his other kids that way…? Bish yours is next!
How long lil Blake got? 16 years? Sheeewwww. Stack your bread new wife. Stack your bread.
@MAMA CITA
“Please explain how child support is black mail? This is why I asked if you have children…they need food, shelter, clothing, utilities, day care, college expenses, shoes, and the list goes on…how is making the person who helped bring them into the world pay up for these things the child CAN”T LIVE WITHOUT blackmail????? Clearly you don’t have children to take car of which is why I asked if you had children.”
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Do you know the history of Child Support????????? I suggest you do the most elementary of research. I don’t want to change the scope of the conversation but I would argue that the “War on Poverty” has done more damage to the black race than drugs. But I digress…
Child Support is “black mail” because it forces one to take the lesser of two evils (paying for a child you don’t want or going to jail). I’m sure you will argue how a man “chose” to have a baby or is somehow “responsible” for the baby.
I will ask you this, do you think the same number of children would be born if there was no laws to subsidize unwanted children? (please answer this question)
Sandra Rose says:
How is your relationship with your dad, if you don’t mind me asking?
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He was in the AF & was killed three months after I turned 3. I don’t remember him to be honest!
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“At 18 year old, you should be in college, Luke should supoprt his kids through college, let them get degree and a career and then I can understand where he is coming from. What is that girl suppose to do now. You know good and well she ain’t ready for the world at 18 years old. She just finished high school.”
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That’s why they have student loans and grants and chit like that. She can work part time and go to school part time.
I know kids who couldn’t even spell “penny” relying on ONE child support check for their father and STILL went to college.
#wheretheresawilltheresaway
Black Mail=Black Males (beacuse they don’t take care of their off springs. You will do better mating with a dog, beacuse at least they will go and get food and water and make sure you have shelter. Have you ever seen a dog that doesn’t take care of his offspring????
thaspinaltruth says:
Have you ever seen a dog that doesn’t take care of his offspring????
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And when that offspring gets older, the dog’s canine parents acts like they don’t know them too.
@Man stop making excuses for dead beat dads, it’s getting a little overbearing now. I mean, what if the child couldn’t get a loan of grant. Luke should want to see his children doing well. Instead he is disowning them. I think that you are a man.
@THA SPINALL TRUTH
“Black Mail=Black Males (beacuse they don’t take care of their off springs. You will do better mating with a dog, beacuse at least they will go and get food and water and make sure you have shelter. Have you ever seen a dog that doesn’t take care of his offspring????”
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LOL. I’ve heard this question: “Have you ever seen a dog that doesn’t take care of his offspring?” responded to with:
“Well, it depends on what bytch had the puppies.”
aqtpie says:
He was in the AF & was killed three months after I turned 3. I don’t remember him to be honest!
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I’m sorry to hear that.
Do you feel angry that you missed out on the father/daughter experience?
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“stop making excuses for dead beat dads, it’s getting a little overbearing now. I mean, what if the child couldn’t get a loan of grant. Luke should want to see his children doing well. Instead he is disowning them. I think that you are a man.”
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Luke needs no “excuse” on this one because he didn’t do anything wrong. I think he did his part, he stated as such and that’s it.
I’ve yet to understand how a man that supported a child he donated sperm for over 18 years is a “dead beat?”
I guess these days if a man isn’t a total slave to his baby momma or the unwanted offspring he must be a “deadbeat.” SMH.
OTB says:
How long lil Blake got? 16 years? Sheeewwww. Stack your bread new wife. Stack your bread.
“Have you ever seen a dog that doesn’t take care of his offspring????”
Arent humans the only animals who let the offspring come back home… :/
“Well, it depends on what bytch had the puppies.”
OTB STOP!!! I can’t
He can still be a dead beat, if all his kids is to him is a pay check. I mean I think that if he wasn’t ordered to pay child support, he wouldn’t pay it. He wouldn’t even see them. The bigger issuse is that he is disowning them… That’s really my issuse.
OutsidetheBox says:
His new wife must be quite a peach. Who would play house with a man who spoke about his other kids that way…? Bish yours is next!
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His new wife is an attorney so I’m sure she’s not just playing house, lol. I bet she is in agreement with him. She’s probably tired of those grown leaches calling her house begging for money.
He’s a nice guy to me.
**throws rocks at OTB**
OTB, no they are not the only ones.
@ OTB
Based on your response, I thought you didn’t see Luke’s statement the way he said it being that you called him “low down and dirty dog” in celie voice
(tickled pink)
@OUTSIDE THE BOX
“Arent humans the only animals who let the offspring come back home… ”
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I’m quite sure humans aren’t the only animals. I know that lions will let female family members back in…(if memory is correct)
Lions? That same lions that only keep one male around..? So all these females in the pride but…hmmm.
Who else?
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@OUTSIDE THE BOX
“Arent humans the only animals who let the offspring come back home… ”
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I’m quite sure humans aren’t the only animals. I know that lions will let female family members back in…(if memory is correct)
ok so now we are doing animal planet?? yall a dam trip
I so get what Man is saying. Busting in a cup and busting in a groupie can have the same reaction because the act is pleasurable but there are no emotions.
Man is a man and what he is saying is how men think. Never overlook what a man says. If he doesn’t want kids, relationships, marriage, etc. Believe him. Women always do the woman thing and try to battle men with the way they think about women and relationships. These are cold hard facts being presented. Men believe, well you trapped me now take the check and keep it moving. The check and to keep me is why you got pregnant/kept the baby anyway. Man men are not extremely emotional they like Puzzy and they may love one woman and that is all. Everybody else is just puzzy. Simple… Its not the childs fault and men will attempt to be fathers but the check greedy women who want to keep a man by having a child uses the child as a pawn hence turning the man off from the child. He still loves his child but he will detach. A mans heart is stoner than a womans
When her kid hits the age of majority she will not be cosigning Uncle Luke’s arse. Bet that.
@MAN If something belongs to you it’s YOUR responsibility to take care of it right. A child has the mans DNA therefore she is his child and he is RESPONSIBLE for providing for her because HE MADE HER (along with the woman but we’re not discussing her at the moment) right? Correct me if i’m wrong here…so for men to think that they can lay down with a woman and get her pregnant (by the way, you do know that men have a part in the baby making process right? Maybe you need to do some research on how that’s done because the last time i checked it takes sperm to make a child and women don’t have sperm so she can’t make the child HER DAMN SELF!) and not have to provide for it is absurd! If you sleep with someone there’s always a possibility that you could have a baby (that’s fact so reseach that boo) So again I ask how are men not responsible for their own child. I don’t give a damn how the child got here and whether the man wanted them or not, it’s here and the man needs to ACCEPT THAT.
On the question of whether as many children would be here, absolutely not! People have children all the time just for the money but MEN KNOW THIS BEFORE THEY SLEEP WITH THE WOMAN! Men know that some women just sleep with him because he has nice things, money, etc. but they, like the dumb asses they are, do it anyway. Is it right no but it’s not right for the child to be deprived either. Men know they will have to support a child if they have one right? If a man is too stupid to realize this then that’s sad!
Candi Apple Says
Man is a man and what he is saying is how men think
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That is debatible.
@ Mamacita,
some men CHOOSE to not be responsible for their offspring…doesn’t make it right, but that’s reality. yes, people SHOULD take responsibility for their actions but sometimes they don’t. yes, men sleep with a women knowing full well she could end up pregnant whether protection is used or not…doesn’t make it right, but they do it anyway and that goes both ways. women know the consequences of sex (protected or unprotected) and do it anyway. if they chose after carrying the baby for nine months not to keep it because they don’t want the responsibility of raising a child, they have the choice to give it up for adoption.
Mamacita says:
If you sleep with someone there’s always a possibility that you could have a baby (that’s fact so reseach that boo) So again I ask how are men not responsible for their own child. I don’t give a damn how the child got here and whether the man wanted them or not, it’s here and the man needs to ACCEPT THAT.
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Ladies, if you meet a man in a nightclub and he asks you for your number and takes you to his place for a nightcap and he smacks that until the sun comes up, how responsible do you expect him to be?
Sandra Rose says:
Do you feel angry that you missed out on the father/daughter experience?
I’m sorry to hear that.
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Thanks. No not really. I had “dad” my grandfather (my dad’s father) ALWAYS in my life, maybe if he hadn’t been there then I probably would have a little anger, well at least feel cheated. I do however have a brother who has kids but he has “one”, he pays child support for & that is it. Just sorry!!
@Speak adoption is easier said than done and the issue was child support. I was referring to @man saying it’s black mail when it’s their responsibility in the first place. Like a man paying child support is somehow wrong if he never wanted it. My point is the baby is here so what are you gonna do about it. Either pay up or go jail, you decide.
@SANDRA
JUST AS RESPONSIBLE AS THE FEMALE.
Man is a man and what he is saying is how men think
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That is debatible.
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With who? Science has said that time and again: men and women think differently.
thaspinaltruth says:
Candi Apple Says
Man is a man and what he is saying is how men think
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That is debatible.
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Which part?
Mama you gotta take that “responsibility” out of the equation.
Men are wired to procreate. That’s why they jump bones without thought…
“Man men are not extremely emotional they like Puzzy and they may love one woman and that is all.”
@otb,
No sweetie, I am talking about whether or not Man is Male/Female.
“Ladies, if you meet a man in a nightclub and he asks you for your number and takes you to his place for a nightcap and he smacks that until the sun comes up, how responsible do you expect him to be…”
I dont.
Well, I’m way lost.
He is a male.
Why is that still up for debate?
He has said and I thought we almost sort of proved it…
@OTB,
You may have to scroll up and read Man and my convo earlier.
:lolo: I thought I did. How about I just #stayoutofit :lolol:
I am way lost too. Cause his statements alone prove that he is a man.
@OTB
Now if he is a man that you would want to be in a relationship with is another question all together. But, I see him as honest and striaght forward.
Mamacita says:
@Speak adoption is easier said than done and the issue was child support. I was referring to @man saying it’s black mail when it’s their responsibility in the first place. Like a man paying child support is somehow wrong if he never wanted it. My point is the baby is here so what are you gonna do about it. Either pay up or go jail, you decide.
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didn’t say it was easy…but it is a choice. as far as not paying child support, some men dodge child support and rationalize it to themselves if they have a contentious relationship with the child’s mother or if the child was the result of a one-night stand or bootycall type relationship. doesn’t make it right, but they do it. everybody doesn’t feel a sense of responsibility for their actions.
@MAMACITA
” If something belongs to you it’s YOUR responsibility to take care of it right. A child has the mans DNA therefore she is his child and he is RESPONSIBLE for providing for her because HE MADE HER (along with the woman but we’re not discussing her at the moment) right? Correct me if i’m wrong here…so for men to think that they can lay down with a woman and get her pregnant (by the way, you do know that men have a part in the baby making process right? Maybe you need to do some research on how that’s done because the last time i checked it takes sperm to make a child and women don’t have sperm so she can’t make the child HER DAMN SELF!) and not have to provide for it is absurd! If you sleep with someone there’s always a possibility that you could have a baby (that’s fact so reseach that boo) So again I ask how are men not responsible for their own child. I don’t give a damn how the child got here and whether the man wanted them or not, it’s here and the man needs to ACCEPT THAT.
On the question of whether as many children would be here, absolutely not! People have children all the time just for the money but MEN KNOW THIS BEFORE THEY SLEEP WITH THE WOMAN! Men know that some women just sleep with him because he has nice things, money, etc. but they, like the dumb asses they are, do it anyway. Is it right no but it’s not right for the child to be deprived either. Men know they will have to support a child if they have one right? If a man is too stupid to realize this then that’s sad!”
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No, no one is “obligated” or “responsible” to anyone else. Whether it be mother to child, father to child, sibling to sibling, etc. No one is obligated to someone else, and THAT assumption has been the problem from the beginning.
And my request for you research “The War on Poverty” and “Child Support History” wasn’t a flippant remark but a genuine request…. in case you took it as me being “smart.”
And my argument has been that if women weren’t SUBSIDIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE CHILDREN, MOST of this wouldn’t be an issue because women would be much more selective about who they have a child with.
Now if he is a man that you would want to be in a relationship with is another question all together. But, I see him as honest and striaght forward.
:lolol: And that pretty much sums it up. I e-
his brutal honesty.
@Candi Apple
Just don’t wory about it.
Now the other daughter just put him on blast!!
I doubt if he cares, it’s just a time of wasted energy!!
@QTB
WELL go ahead ride his e-saddle then girl.
Okay guys I’m out. Man it was fun chatting with you. Maybe we can have at it another day.
Peace!!!!
And my argument has been that if women weren’t SUBSIDIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE CHILDREN, MOST of this wouldn’t be an issue because women would be much more selective about who they have a child with.
Ouch! Hmm.
“..WELL go ahead ride his e-saddle then girl…”
Ehhhh? ©FLO :lolol:
Chick, you do too much. Get that spine tapped why dont ya?
@CANDI APPLE
“I so get what Man is saying. Busting in a cup and busting in a groupie can have the same reaction because the act is pleasurable but there are no emotions.
Man is a man and what he is saying is how men think. Never overlook what a man says. If he doesn’t want kids, relationships, marriage, etc. Believe him. Women always do the woman thing and try to battle men with the way they think about women and relationships. These are cold hard facts being presented. Men believe, well you trapped me now take the check and keep it moving. The check and to keep me is why you got pregnant/kept the baby anyway. Man men are not extremely emotional they like Puzzy and they may love one woman and that is all. Everybody else is just puzzy. Simple… Its not the childs fault and men will attempt to be fathers but the check greedy women who want to keep a man by having a child uses the child as a pawn hence turning the man off from the child. He still loves his child but he will detach. A mans heart is stoner than a womans”
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This statement was so beautiful…
man, we have officially reached the time where it makes no sense whatsoever for you to respond any further. it’s pretty clear to me why we have so many lil mouths to feed running around these streets.
i’m just going to say that it saddens me that women feel like it’s ok to have babies with ANYBODY and suddenly expect the guy to become mature, become responsible, become financially stable, and most importantly become loving toward them and the child.
there is a big elephant in the room and this that THIS MOFO SCREWED YOU WITH NO INTENTION OF HAVING A CHILD, YOU KNEW IT, AND YOU SHOULD NOT ABUSE YOUR BODY OR YOUR OFFSPRING BY BRINGING AN UNWANTED CHILD INTO THE WORLD. but you do it anyway because you KNOW you can at least get his money and attention through the court system. if the shoe was on the other foot, the court systems would be empty because men would never have these kids. it ain’t even about the money, THEY DON’T WANT THEM!!! can’t you understand that simple statement?
we use the excuse “he did it with me” too much. that’s a cop out. WE, AS WOMEN, NEED TO DO BETTER BECAUSE LIFE ORIGINATES WITH US. YOU have to look at the innocent child every day and deal with the consequences. YOU have to make a way out of no way. YOU are responsible. that’s why the courts give YOU all the favoritism and leeway. a man actually has to fight for joint custody but automatically gets his funds taken.
ladies, have some f*cking respect for yourself! do you let anybody just do what they want to do to you or do you have a mind of your own? i see all the females talking cash sh*t on here about every other topic but all of a sudden when it comes to babies it’s like, “duh, he put his raw d*ck in me and so well, uh, what’s a girl supposed to do?” it’s really just sad.
@Man *sigh* Well, lets just agree to disagree…
@FREE
“man, we have officially reached the time where it makes no sense whatsoever for you to respond any further. it’s pretty clear to me why we have so many lil mouths to feed running around these streets.
i’m just going to say that it saddens me that women feel like it’s ok to have babies with ANYBODY and suddenly expect the guy to become mature, become responsible, become financially stable, and most importantly become loving toward them and the child.
there is a big elephant in the room and this that THIS MOFO SCREWED YOU WITH NO INTENTION OF HAVING A CHILD, YOU KNEW IT, AND YOU SHOULD NOT ABUSE YOUR BODY OR YOUR OFFSPRING BY BRINGING AN UNWANTED CHILD INTO THE WORLD. but you do it anyway because you KNOW you can at least get his money and attention through the court system. if the shoe was on the other foot, the court systems would be empty because men would never have these kids. it ain’t even about the money, THEY DON’T WANT THEM!!! can’t you understand that simple statement?
we use the excuse “he did it with me” too much. that’s a cop out. WE, AS WOMEN, NEED TO DO BETTER BECAUSE LIFE ORIGINATES WITH US. YOU have to look at the innocent child every day and deal with the consequences. YOU have to make a way out of no way. YOU are responsible. that’s why the courts give YOU all the favoritism and leeway. a man actually has to fight for joint custody but automatically gets his funds taken.
ladies, have some f*cking respect for yourself! do you let anybody just do what they want to do to you or do you have a mind of your own? i see all the females talking cash sh*t on here about every other topic but all of a sudden when it comes to babies it’s like, “duh, he put his raw d*ck in me and so well, uh, what’s a girl supposed to do?” it’s really just sad.”
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AMEN AND
I hate it when women try to make it sound like reproduction is 50/50. It may take TWO indredients (sperm/egg) but there is ONE chef (THE WOMAN)!
SHE decides who she sleeps with
SHE decides who she will sleep with raw
SHE decides if a pregnancy goes full term
SHE decides whether she will take BC
Truth be told, men just tryin to bust one. And when you all horny and chit in the moment, you ain’t thankin bout the REST OF YOUR LIFE. The blood from your brain goin to yo’ dyck anyway so you know you ain’t thinking right. Prolly been drinking too.
Women have MONTHS before hand AND afterwards to make reproductive decisions but a man is held EQUALLY liable for this decision.
If I bring ingredients to a cook, ain’t the COOK responsible for the food?
@MAMACITA
“*sigh* Well, lets just agree to disagree…”
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I really would but we aren’t talking about “opinions.” This is fact, no one is responsible for anyone else. That’s the law of nature, not an opinion.
thaspinaltruth says:
@Candi Apple
Just don’t wory about it.
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Not worried, Just responding to you. I take #noshots from this.
Have a good one
Okay, I was about to go when I can back and saw these 3 page essay from FREE. I will just say this, I hope that you don’t *fall in love* with a guy and yall are in a relationship, you get pregnant, then all of the sudden he doesn’t love you anymore, nor does he want your child, but wait, you don’t believe in abortion. Where do you go?? What do you do?? This topic for me isn’t about the money, it’s about this No gooded Niccas that yall keep making excuses for. This is what is wrong with society now. We keep letting these men off the hook. It’s okay for them to get someone pregnant, but not okay for them to take responbility for having unprotected sex, GET THE FREAK OUT OF HERE WITH THAT. It’s funny to me that a woman can fix her lips to say that ish you just said. At what point do you tell the Men to be responbile and don’t have unprotected sex?? If I ever have a son, I will teach him to respect woman and to wear a hat if he is going to be out there like that, or better yet wait until he is married, then that way you want have so many unwanted children running around here.
@man
Thinking like that, you are not fit to be a father. God forbids someone thinks of your daughter in that matter and she ends up pregnant, oh but wait, I know you wouldn’t have children. I have figured that out from your comments. Or maybe you have children and don’t take of them because you don’t feel responsible. You are so IGNUT, it’s not even funny, and anybody that cosigns with that ish you say is ignut to.
Thats the other extent but we are talking about LUKE.
I would have never has unprotected sex with Doo Doo Brown. Cause I would never know if he w :rofl:as talking about giving or taking. either way it could be bad.
Mans Says:
If I bring ingredients to a cook, ain’t the COOK responsible for the food?
But didn’t you couldn’t cook without the ingredients.
@thespinaltruth
At what point do you tell the Men to be responbile and don’t have unprotected sex??
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you can TELL a man the sky is blue but that doesn’t change the fact that he can CHOOSE to believe it’s neon green with purple polka dots. a man can’t carry a baby for nine months and unfortunately that in itself lets him off the hook if he CHOOSES to see it that way. that’s why we as women, since we carry the baby and give birth, bear the burden when it comes to raising children. we can always CHOOSE to not carry the pregnancy to term or CHOOSE to give the child up for adoption.
get my drift…it’s all about choices and if you know there’s the possibility the man may not be in your life forever to raise that child, then you as the woman make the CHOICE to take the chance of being a single parent.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“Thinking like that, you are not fit to be a father. God forbids someone thinks of your daughter in that matter and she ends up pregnant, oh but wait, I know you wouldn’t have children. I have figured that out from your comments. Or maybe you have children and don’t take of them because you don’t feel responsible. You are so IGNUT, it’s not even funny, and anybody that cosigns with that ish you say is ignut to.”
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Naw, I’m just tellin you the truth and you know it.
If I have a daughter I will tell her to be prepared to take care of a baby by herself if she wants one. Even if the father WANTS to be around he could pass away unexpectedly. You just never now and it’s best to be prepared. But I guess in this world of “entitlement” no one does that anymore.
Basically just be prepared for life. Chit happens and NOBODY OWES YOU CHIT!
@Candi
I wouldn’t either, but Luke is just is flithy as the women he laid down with. He has STD written all over him.
you can’t place your expectations on someone else and be mad when they don’t live up to your expectations of what and how they should be as a man, father, etc. dude may start off like Prince Charming and end up being a complete @$$hole. that’s a chance you take…that’s life.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“If I bring ingredients to a cook, ain’t the COOK responsible for the food?”
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But didn’t you couldn’t cook without the ingredients.
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Yeah, but who is MORE responsible? The person that brought 50% of the ingredients AND COOKED THE FOOD…
…or the person that brought the other 50% and didn’t cook?
@Man,
Please be for real. You and I know you aren’t speaking from your hear, but rather emotions. It doesn’t matter if they owe you anything, but they are equally responsible.
@Man,
Please be for real. You and I know you aren’t speaking from your hear, but rather emotions. It doesn’t matter if they owe you anything, but they are equally responsible.
Yeah, but who is MORE responsible? The person that brought 50% of the ingredients AND COOKED THE FOOD…
…or the person that brought the other 50% and didn’t cook?
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they both are b/c…..
SOMEBODY gotta clean up the gatdayum kitchen after the meal is over.
Ignut is not taking care of yourself and letting someone control what you do in the bedroom. I can only be responsible for myself. I repeat, I can only be reponsible for myself. I know #hoeshyt when I see it. I protect myself from unwanted pregnancy and STD’s. Man will make a good husband and father when he finds the woman he wants to be with. Right now, he understands he doesn’t want kids and/or forbid kids by groupies. He got benefits. Luke can’t read
LOL,
The person that brought the ingredients. You couldn’t cook without them. The ingriedents make the recipe. Yeah the cook adds her special twist, but only the right ingredients can make the food right.
LOL,
The person that brought the ingredients. You couldn’t cook without them. The ingriedents make the recipe. Yeah the cook adds her special twist, but only the right ingredients can make the food right.
@KWALL
“Yeah, but who is MORE responsible? The person that brought 50% of the ingredients AND COOKED THE FOOD…
…or the person that brought the other 50% and didn’t cook?
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they both are b/c…..
SOMEBODY gotta clean up the gatdayum kitchen after the meal is over.”
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LOL. Whatever! You know I’m speaking the flat out truth. The only reason there are so many “dead beats” is because “wreckless puzzy women” are subsidized to have these kids.
Your tax dollars act as a collection agency for women who slept with people who never agreed to have children with them.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“Please be for real. You and I know you aren’t speaking from your hear, but rather emotions. It doesn’t matter if they owe you anything, but they are equally responsible.”
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No, they aren’t. LOL. It’s pretty simple if you ask me.
@Candi,
Stop riding Man’s sack.
LOL@KWALL
You can only be responsible for youself, but doesn’t that go both ways(Oh never mind, I feel like I am beating a dead horse). Anyway, either way you look at it It take two to make a baby. Not one, but TWO. So if you both lay down and have unprotected sex, then you both assume responsibilty the the consequences.
thaspinaltruth says: Okay, I was about to go when I can back and saw these 3 page essay from FREE. I will just say this, I hope that you don’t *fall in love* with a guy and yall are in a relationship, you get pregnant, then all of the sudden he doesn’t love you anymore, nor does he want your child, but wait, you don’t believe in abortion.
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falling in love has nothing to do with making babies. do you make babies just because you fall in love? i’ve fallen in love MANY times since i first came of age at about 12 years old.
the same niccas i’m “making excuses for” are the ones some females chose to procreate with so who has worse judgement?
@man
lets agree that it is pretty simple…. I WON!!! LOL, I kid I kid.
I ride sacks everyday you telling me that is nothing new. We got a carpet muncher in the house. I call it cock envy
SMDH. How can you sleep with a bunch of nasty groupies, or women period, using no protection and be SURPRISED when one gets knocked up? Do you not have a brain? Did no one ever explain to you how babies are born?
Oh, and I don’t blame her one bit for calling him out. I am somebody who grew up with a dead beat dad and I know first hand what it is like to grow up knowing you own father won’t make time for you. It wasn’t that bad because I had my step dad, who I love to death and call dad. But, it still hurts. And, he better hope there is never a day he needs me for anything b/c I will turn my back on him just like he did to me. Sending a checking every month does not make you a parent. Despite what you have been told, it just doesn’t. Children need time, love and attention. That doesn’t cost anything.
I want you to see it *C O C K envy*
thaspinaltruth says:
You can only be responsible for youself, but doesn’t that go both ways(Oh never mind, I feel like I am beating a dead horse). Anyway, either way you look at it It take two to make a baby. Not one, but TWO. So if you both lay down and have unprotected sex, then you both assume responsibilty the the consequences.
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and one of those consequences is the man can decide to walk away and take no responsibility for the child he helped create. another consequence (to use you word) is the woman can decide not to carry the pregnancy to term or give the child up for adoption. all are consequences based on choices we make.
@Free,
I used that to say that, a lot of times these women are in what they believe to be a relationship. And they get pregnant, having never discuss rather or the man wants to have children(I know that is irresponsible) but when women are in love, they don’t think about oh if I get pregnant, how will he take it? They should discuss that before the lay down and take the necessary steps to prevent it from happening together. That means the both of them. But yes I agree that you shouldn’t just lay down with anybody, but that goes both ways.
I thought I said so much in that comment.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“I used that to say that, a lot of times these women are in what they believe to be a relationship. And they get pregnant, having never discuss rather or the man wants to have children(I know that is irresponsible) but when women are in love, they don’t think about oh if I get pregnant, how will he take it? They should discuss that before the lay down and take the necessary steps to prevent it from happening together. That means the both of them. But yes I agree that you shouldn’t just lay down with anybody, but that goes both ways.”
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THEY have MONTHS to clear that up AFTER the fact too.
@speak,
I don’t disagree with that, but still doesn’t make it right though, that’s what I am trying to stress here.
@ Candi Apple
at least you got a response!
Your tax dollars act as a collection agency for women who slept with people who never agreed to have children with them.
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well imma need to reap my own tax dollas…cause i slept with someone last night who has not agreed to father my 3rd child.
imma tell his azz that when he come back round here tonight too.
no nookie for you yo…why? what do you MEAN why???
cause you have not agreed to be my potential baby favah.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@MAMACITA
“*sigh* Well, lets just agree to disagree…”
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I really would but we aren’t talking about “opinions.” This is fact, no one is responsible for anyone else. That’s the law of nature, not an opinion.
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My friend that is not a fact…that too is your opinion. Parents are responsible for their children. If you don’t agree then so be it but that is what I know so whatever…
@man,
they do, but then why do some of these men insist on having unprotected sex. oh baby i don’t like to use the condom, i want to feel the real thing, aren’t they responsible to? I’m just asking???
Oxymoron talking responsible and then using irresponsible behavior in the same statement.
Knowingly
LOL@kwall
thaspinaltruth says:
@speak,
I don’t disagree with that, but still doesn’t make it right though, that’s what I am trying to stress here.
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it doesn’t make it right in YOUR opinion/expectations of people. everyone isn’t going to think like you or have the same sense of responsibility (moral or otherwise) as you. that’s life and a lot of women would serve themselves well to learn that life lesson and apply it daily. what you think is right and morally just isn’t always going to be the same for someone else. that’s why you have to make life choices based on what you can/cannot live with and not what YOU feel someone else should/would do
@Candi
You are kinda funny!
speakinmymind says:
@ Candi Apple
at least you got a response!
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It turth in all comedy thats why you kinda laughed
@Speak,
I disagree with you now. There is a such thing as right and wrong. I don’t know how you were raised, but I am sure your mom told you things that are right and wrong. If I just go up to someone and blow their brains out, AM I RIGHT JUST BECAUSE I THINK I AM RIGHT? OR AM I RIGHT BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THAT PERSON DIDN’T NEED TO LIVE ANYMORE, SO I SHOCK THEM? I’m just saying…..
@MAMA CITA
“My friend that is not a fact…that too is your opinion. Parents are responsible for their children. If you don’t agree then so be it but that is what I know so whatever…”
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LOL. What?
Maybe I didn’t state clearly what I mean. Parents CHOOSE to be “responsible” to their children. It isn’t a “necessity” is what I’m saying. Their is an “option.”
1 + 1 = 2, their is no “option.” That’s the answer every single time without deviation. The fact that every child is NOT with their parent is evidence that it is OPTIONAL for a parent to take care of their child. They don’t HAVE to do it, they choose to.
That’s what I meam by “it’s a fact” that no one is “responsible” to anyone else because they always have a choice to NOT be involved with the other person. It’s really indisputable.
LOL, this isn’t about us “agreeing.” At least not on that.
@Man so you have contradicted yourself YET AGAIN…you just said the woman is more responsible for the child but you also say that no one is responsible for anyone…make up your mind please…
@Candi,
I like to think of myself as a sarcastic type funny, but I need to work on that a little more.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“they do, but then why do some of these men insist on having unprotected sex. oh baby i don’t like to use the condom, i want to feel the real thing, aren’t they responsible to? I’m just asking???”
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First off, unprotected sex DOES feel better. Blah blah blah about protection and chances and all that chit. At the end of the day, raw just feels better.
And yes, the man has responsibility too. By all means he does. Just don’t try to tell me it is an “equal” decision when we know it isn’t, never has been and never will be as long as one person carries the baby.
Hmmm…I find Luke’s comment to be distasteful. I also find his daughter’s rant to be inappropriate as well. If they have issues with each other they should discuss it in private.
Also, I am a female but this has always baffled me. When a man wants a child and a woman decides she doesn’t want it, she aborts it stating “it’s my body yada yada yada’ with no care for the man’s feelings. Yet when the man doesn’t want a child and she decides to keep it and he’s not pleased, she get’s all upset and starts demanding this that and the next. I find such situations to be unfair. If a man doesn’t want children with you, and you KNOW this, then see to it that protection is worn, if he can’t agree to that, then pump the brakes! No matter what sweet talk he gives you. At the end of the day, it’s not only up to the man, it’s up to the woman as well!
In this situation, BOTH parties are to blame. If Luke didn’t want kids, he should’ve used a condom. If these women knew he didn’t want kids or a long-term relationship with them, then they should have either abstained or ensured that protection was worn.
@man
You are so funny it’s not even funny how funny you really are. I am starting to get carpal tunnel from all this typing.
Yeah cause what you say doesnt come off well at all. Every one of your comments came off sarcastic but none the less funny
@MAMACITA
“so you have contradicted yourself YET AGAIN…you just said the woman is more responsible for the child but you also say that no one is responsible for anyone…make up your mind please…”
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I never contradicted myself ONE time. If you beleive so it is because you didn’t comprehend what I was saying or I didn’t express it in the best way.
Yes, we are ALL only responsible to ourselves. If a woman CHOOSES to have a baby that is her CHOICE and she should take “MORE” responsibility to that CHOICE than the man is because she has more authority in making the decision on reproduction. In this instance, she is “responsible” for the DECISION, not necessarily the “baby” per se.
In no way is she, or he, without choice on the being responsible to the BABY. She can walk away at any time and he can walk away at any time.
thaspinaltruth says:
@Speak,
I disagree with you now. There is a such thing as right and wrong. I don’t know how you were raised, but I am sure your mom told you things that are right and wrong. If I just go up to someone and blow their brains out, AM I RIGHT JUST BECAUSE I THINK I AM RIGHT? OR AM I RIGHT BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THAT PERSON DIDN’T NEED TO LIVE ANYMORE, SO I SHOCK THEM? I’m just saying…..
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i agree, not taking care of your offspring is wrong just as blowing someone’s brains out is wrong. however, the person doing the shooting may feel justified (i.e. “right”) in blowing the other person’s brains out even though it’s clearly wrong in the eyes of the law. to take the point further, aren’t there some laws you think are “right” and some you believe are “wrong”? we can all justify based on our own personal beliefs what feel is right or wrong.
@THA SPINAL TRUTH
“You are so funny it’s not even funny how funny you really are. I am starting to get carpal tunnel from all this typing.”
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“A lot of truth is said in jest.”-Unknown
I dont care who Luke is or what his daughter said about him. What about his other child….his son who made a video on wshh.com and he didnt say anything negative about Luke. He just said he thinks that its wrong that Luke deny them like that and all they want is attention…like he said…what did the 5 year old boy who is his other youngest son in maryland do to him…what did his 12 year old brother do to him…regardless of what their mother’s did…it should not be taken out on them cause they didnt do anything wrong so with that said…he is a deadbeat dad…cause money doesnt make a boy into a man…money doesnt teach your son or daughter the values that a dad can instill into a child..i dont care what not she said about luke…until she actually say that she want money then she just want some attention…luke u need to man up and be a part of the them kids lives…
If a man wants to have unprotected sex with you *a woman he just met* bet he wants to have unprotected sex with all his partners. Saying that, I am not only placing myself at risk for having a baby. I am placing myself at risk for life changing STD’s. I would never do that to myself. ” Whats love got to do with it, Its a second hand emotion”. I’m responsible for my own actions. Not all men are like these men who leave kids behind. Women need to recognize these men. The poor choice is not his its hers.
Lyssa02 says:
Hmmm…I find Luke’s comment to be distasteful. I also find his daughter’s rant to be inappropriate as well. If they have issues with each other they should discuss it in private.
Also, I am a female but this has always baffled me. When a man wants a child and a woman decides she doesn’t want it, she aborts it stating “it’s my body yada yada yada’ with no care for the man’s feelings. Yet when the man doesn’t want a child and she decides to keep it and he’s not pleased, she get’s all upset and starts demanding this that and the next. I find such situations to be unfair.
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oh, and yes, my mom taught me right from wrong, but as i got older i found out my right/wrong is sometimes different from other people’s right/wrong. as stated many times on this board, many people think it’s right to sleep a man who’s going through a divorce, but i think it’s wrong. i’m not judging those who think it’s right, but it is wrong in my opinion.
Sounds like she is of legal age to get a J-O-B so she need to stop throwing a temper tantrum in public because he told you the bank was closed. My my how things change as soon as the cameras stop rolling.
@SPEAK
with all that being said either way you look at it, there is a right and wrong.
@Man I see what you’re saying but if both of them CHOOSE to walk away who’s gonna take care of the child? The child will be put into the system and your tax dollars will be yet again sucked from your pocket so that the child can be kept alive so in the end we as tax payers become responsible for children that people CHOSE to abandoned.
I just have one question more and i’ll be done. The child didn’t choose to be here so why do the people that brought it here have a choice?
@ spinal
you’re absolutely RIGHT!! but right/wrong can still be different from person to person. some folks think it’s right to hate Black people and that the races should be separate but some of us think that’s as wrong as two left shoes. 
Mamacita says:
I just have one question more and i’ll be done. The child didn’t choose to be here so why do the people that brought it here have a choice?
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since i know you’re a believer, you already know the answer…cuz God gave us all free will to make whatever choices we want to, right or wrong.
@SPEAK,
I say again there is a right or wrong. We are we not the judges of what is right or wrong, be I also believe that if you believe in God, you will feel convicted when you are wrong. That’s all I got!
@ spinal
exactly…if you’re a believer, then you have a certain set of beliefs when it comes to right and wrong. everyone’s not a believer and follower of Jesus Christ so right and wrong still isn’t the same for everyone across the board.
i’m out for the day. you’ll get the last word
cuz i gotta get my workout on! have a good evening!
@MAMA CITA
“I see what you’re saying but if both of them CHOOSE to walk away who’s gonna take care of the child? The child will be put into the system and your tax dollars will be yet again sucked from your pocket so that the child can be kept alive so in the end we as tax payers become responsible for children that people CHOSE to abandoned.
I just have one question more and i’ll be done. The child didn’t choose to be here so why do the people that brought it here have a choice?”
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Well, in the theoretical sense if no one takes care of the baby than it will starve.
In the legal sense, yes, if both people abandon the child, it is put into adoption and foster parents or adoptive parents receive a stipend to take care of the child. This is STILL cheaper than the salaries, imprisonment and court costs paid to enforce asinine “child support” laws.
It would be more efficent to offer the same stipend extended to foster/adoption parents to single mothers/fathers versus trying to prosecute and imprison them.
No politician is willing to state that because they fear it would appear to be “socialism” or a “welfare state” type of issue. Ridiculous.
Now, as for the “child not asking to be here and why don’t they get a choice?” Is that rhetorical? That’s how it goes, that’s life. It is not, never has been and never will be “fair.” Many a baby has been left to starve to death so if someone makes out of the “helpless” state of infant/toddler/etc. they should be grateful. IMO. It wasn’t a guarantee that they would make it that far.
Luke
Dream
Diddy
Nelly
Bow-Wow
Chris Brown
Fab
Soldier Boy
Slim Thug
Flo Rida
Tiger Woods
To be continued:
@SPEAK,
Have a good evening! ;0 it’s so nice of you to let me have the last word, the truth is I am all typed out. I am about to go for real this time. LAter!
This dude was so broke he optioned a show to MTV/VH1 based on being a parent before his son was born.
The show was called PARENTAL ADVISOR. It was a reality show about marrying his scandalous past with being a parent.
NOW, I repeat, NOW, the kids he used to become relevant again are just sperm donations?
And, on the show we were introduced to an infant son and this girl’s teenage brother who are not GROWN. I repeat, NOT GROWN.
Now, Luke is talking reckless about his children. The daughter and the brother were to the same mother, so I’m betting one of them was planned.
Luke is a fool. To cast your children out there like that, no matter how you feel about the mother or their teenage mouthing off exemplifies what a horrible father he really is.
He’s BANKRUPT. He did not pay millions to the mother of his children. GTFOH.
speakinmymind says:
Mamacita says:
I just have one question more and i’ll be done. The child didn’t choose to be here so why do the people that brought it here have a choice?
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since i know you’re a believer, you already know the answer…cuz God gave us all free will to make whatever choices we want to, right or wrong.
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Yeah you’re right we all have choices to do whatever we do but if they choose to walk away from a child that doesn’t take the responsability away…I can choose not to take care of my car but that doesn’t mean that I’m not responsible for taking care of it. It’s my car. I can choose not to pay my car note but that doesn’t mean that i’m not responsible for it so the repo man will be there to pick it up. It’s my car and my car note. That’s all i’m saying.
You want to know why black people are f&cked up, look no farther than this blog. Anyone rationalizing this dude’s behavior is a contributor to the problem.
Hell, even Eddie Murphy, who Scary Spice said intentionally got her pregnant, and then denied the child was his, remained mum about his thoughts on his child.
This is ridiculous. This here response is the reason black men and women relationships are so strained. Do you think these children he’s calling sperm donations will escape these comments without psychological damage??
@Man “..asinine “child support” laws.”
I have failed to see how child support is so evil. Many men CHOOSE to walk away and not support their families. I have a friend who got pregnant and her bf talked her into keeping the child. He said he would be there and step up to the plate. 7 months into the pregnancy he walks away. This is a case where the man WANTED the child and then CHOSE to walk away. Why can’t she make his azz pay child support? So she gets to struggle paying bills while he moves on to a new chick and acts like his daughter doesn’t exist? And she hasn’t seen a dime from him! While you continue to act like child support is such a burden think about all the people who really NEED it to survive. That’s all i’m saying. Not all men are up front about not wanting kids. Some want kids and when the child gets here they realize they aren’t ready. It’s not always black and white.
@MAMACITA
“I have failed to see how child support is so evil. Many men CHOOSE to walk away and not support their families. I have a friend who got pregnant and her bf talked her into keeping the child. He said he would be there and step up to the plate. 7 months into the pregnancy he walks away. This is a case where the man WANTED the child and then CHOSE to walk away. Why can’t she make his azz pay child support? So she gets to struggle paying bills while he moves on to a new chick and acts like his daughter doesn’t exist? And she hasn’t seen a dime from him! While you continue to act like child support is such a burden think about all the people who really NEED it to survive. That’s all i’m saying. Not all men are up front about not wanting kids. Some want kids and when the child gets here they realize they aren’t ready. It’s not always black and white.”
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Yes, child support is “evil” because it is a ridiculous “law” in principal and in enforcement. It’s ridiculous in principal because as I stated earlier, the courts have dictated 50/50 LIABILITY where CLEARLY there is not 50/50 RESPONSIBILITY. It is ridiculous in enforcement because the math is indisputable. It is more inefficient, time consuming and costly than other methods.
Now, as for your friend, I always ask single parents: “What would you have done had this person died?” Yeah, that SOUNDS bad, but it’s a question of preparation more than anything else. I can understand her frustration for not receiving a dime and all, but if this guy was to pass away she would be in the SAME BOAT. That tells me she didn’t prepare for the possibility that he wouldn’t be around.
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@Man Yeah she would have to do it by herself if he dies but he’s not dead so what does that have to do with him living 10 minutes away and not even coming to see this child that he convinced her he would there for? He doesn’t even attempt to do anything. I’m sorry but guys like that are why child support was made a law. Too many people walk around making bad decisions with no consequence because they expect someone else to clean up their mess. I ain’t buying it.
@MAMACITA
“Yeah she would have to do it by herself if he dies but he’s not dead so what does that have to do with him living 10 minutes away and not even coming to see this child that he convinced her he would there for? He doesn’t even attempt to do anything. I’m sorry but guys like that are why child support was made a law. Too many people walk around making bad decisions with no consequence because they expect someone else to clean up their mess. I ain’t buying it.”
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Like I said, it was question of “preparation” more than anything else. Yeah, he is still here but he might as well be dead (in regards to supporting the child). It’s too bad your friend made a decision based off the word of someone else instead of her own preparation for that decision. I’m sure she won’t do that again.
Child Support laws were created to keep child rearing costs off the back of the taxpayer. The “welfare” of the child was never at the heart of the decision to institute the law, no matter how much anyone tries to convince you otherwise. And like I said, as with all stupid laws, they tend to not work out too well. Just like this hasn’t.
All of his KIDS are not 18 and over… The ones that are still minors should be taken care of by him. The ones that are now adults need to realize that their DADDY is an AZZ and move on life is to short..
I’ve had the same experience w/ my mom who I refer to as an EGG DONOR…. It took me awhile but I got over it an life went on for the BETTER….
Regardless if he had a relationship with the kids’ mother or not, there’s really NO NEED to refer to your kids as “donations”. That’s not cool at all. In my book, making that statement makes him a certified a-hole.
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Yeap that!
I have not had a chance to read the 50/11 comments but auntie the radio personality is nnete.
This was honestly a nice discussion! Let’s see what I have learned; women need to be more careful of who they choose to lay down & conceive a child with because that male could choose not to be a father!
Men need to be more careful of who they choose to lay down & conceive a child with because that person could see them as only a paycheck!!!
Totally agree with the above post. I do think he was being sarcastic too, cause Luke is too real to not come back with some smart remark.