A 6-year-old Tulsa, Oklahoma girl was sent home from school because her unkempt dreadlocks violated the school’s dress code.
Tiana Parker’s father, Terrance Parker, told KOKI that his daughter was pulled out of class at Deborah Brown Community School for having the “wrong hairstyle.”
“She’s always presentable,” explained Parker, who is a barber by trade. “I take pride in my kids looking nice.”
“They didn’t like my dreads,” the little girl cried during an interview with a KOKI reporter.
The Charter school student body is majority black, and the curriculum prepares students for the real world, aka the workplace. Students are taught to take pride in their appearance which includes grooming.
The school’s policy states faddish hairstyles can cause a distraction in a learning environment. At the Charter school, children are taught to look presentable as they will be required to look when they enter the workforce.
It is noted that the school’s well-groomed principal wears her natural hair tucked under a tidy twist out wig.
From Kamoymagazine.com:
Officials from Deborah Brown Community School in Tulsa declined speak to the station on camera, but the school policy states that “hairstyles such as dreadlocks, afros, mohawks, and other faddish styles are unacceptable.”
KOKI reported that the “school feels that could distract from the respectful and serious atmosphere it strives for.”
“She went to the school last year and didn’t have any problems,” Terrance Parker pointed out. “It hurt my feelings to the core.”
And from the way that 7-year-old Tiana wept as she spoke to KOKI, it was obvious that her feelings were hurt as well.
“They didn’t like my dreads,” she said. “I think that they should let me have my dreads.”
Tiana has now been enrolled in a new school, which welcomes her hairstyle.”
Thanks to loyal reader Kiyah S. for the tip.
WHAT!
lemme read
I hate to see kids cry because some adult hurt their feelings. And how does the damn princpal have the nerve to have on that twist out wig, and talk mess about this baby’s hair!! So what if I felt like your twist out was not nice and it was dry and real ratty looking? Then what?
It is noted that the school’s well-groomed principal wears her natural hair tucked under a tidy twist out wig.
Somebody go copy/paste our comments about this yesterday *snickers*

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MsTake, we will invite you and “forget our purses” ala somebody’s ex-sisterinlaw on here
I am working in the real world waiting on a bish to dismiss me behind my fro….
Me dancing to the bank BABBBBBBY!
<~~~me dancing past the former employer with a FUGG you look on my face
@ Nakeya_J: First impression is everything. The girl’s hair looked a hot mess.
that wig is horrid
Bet they wouldn’t send a yt child home with bedhead ugh
way to go making her feel insecure SCHOOL. of all the stuff to focus on, like maybe her good grades, or pleasant behavior, her hair tho…foreal!! i hate soul glo, wig wearing azz principals.
“They didn’t like my dreads,” the little girl cried during an interview with a KOKI reporter.
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This is absurd!
Yes I See it says its in their rules of conduct\appearance. But they didn’t have to do that baby like that! that couldn’t be addressed a better way?
WHO DA Fugg is distracted by this childs hair.she has a cute pink bow
Im More distracted with the Principals wig then this babys hair!
That shyte aint right!
It’s in the contract, no? THis isn’t a “public” government funded school, right?
Miany says:
I am working in the real world waiting on a bish to dismiss me behind my fro….
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I’m sure your fro is neat and well-groomed.
Who Dat says:
Clemson
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ACC stand UP
(EXCEPT Florida State
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Damn Sis, it’s like that. We are the ACC right now!
school policy states that “hairstyles such as dreadlocks, afros, mohawks, and other faddish styles are unacceptable.”
see this sh** right here pisses me off, she talking smack with that dust mop sitting on top of her head…I WISH A MF’R WOULD MAKE MY BABY CRY
omg i hate to see a child cry.
me in the park: “let that baby play, she was being nice!”
(seriously have tears in my eyes. i cant stand this!)
@ luVn_liFe: The girl was sent home because her father’s attempt at putting dreadlocks in her hair was disrupting the classroom. I still don’t see any dreads in her hair.
And we wonder why our lil girls have self esteem issues growing up.
Aunt Tea you dont get the irony on the pic of the principal?
Say it aint so. 
Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
I am working in the real world waiting on a bish to dismiss me behind my fro….
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I’m sure your fro is neat and well-groomed.
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Whatcha gonna do Miany?! SR giving you that slow smiling nod 
My nephew has locks….he is 8. On the first day of school he said someone called him a girl…
I was ready and my nephew knew it…..
Me
Him: :stop: waaaait he made a mistake cuz my hair.
Me: You sure he wasn’t being slick???
NOBODY. Child, adult or authority is gone make mine feel like shii ova something god gave em. PERIOD POINT BLANK. Just my opinion but the idea of changing your looks to conform to someone else’s standards just breeds insecurity.
hate to see kids cry because some adult hurt their feelings.
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Me too Jesus. Lord.
Fugg folks yo. Up to an including that Aunt Thomasine azz principah.
Imma go find GG’s font on this, because nobody can do it like her
brb
“They didn’t like my dreads,” the little girl cried during an interview with a KOKI reporter.
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luVn_liFe says:
This is absurd!
Yes I See it says its in their rules of conduct\appearance. But they didn’t have to do that baby like that!
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I’m sure she was talking about the other students teasing her about her “dreads” which look more like plaits to me.
So kinky natural hair is a fad. Got it. Not Black natural hair cause white ppl got kinky hair too…just kinky hair on darker skin, you say?? OH.
Sandra Rose says: @ Nakeya_J: First impression is everything. The girl’s hair looked a hot mess
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And the principals hair looks????
Im OKAY with the message,IM NOT okay with;
1. How they treated this child;they could have sent her home with a note AT THE END OF THE DAY!
2. the fact that the the PRINCIPALs wig looks ratted and unkempt its a distraction
FSU yeah
cougar lover says:
way to go making her feel insecure SCHOOL. of all the stuff to focus on, like maybe her good grades, or pleasant behavior, her hair tho…foreal!! i hate soul glo, wig wearing azz principals.
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thats it! where kdub at with this bish email address?!?!
Her big bow is sew cute.
It is noted that the school’s well-groomed principal wears her natural hair tucked under a tidy twist out wig.
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This shyt just made me fart in my seat, and NOW I’m all
Sandra – you owe me my gat’dayum dignity back!!!!!!!
My my what big gums you have Ms. Principal. it’s sad they put that baby through this bs.
And we wonder why our lil girls have self esteem issues growing up.
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Whew. Not me. I know why.
How you doing® @Sandra.
LOL @ Dreads being a fadish style. It’s a lot of dumb muthafcukas in this world, and at that school.
SANDRA ROSE: I’m sure she was talking about the other students teasing her about her “dreads” which look more like plaits to me.
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Im sure she wasn’t. I can bet my blow pop she meant Adults, Who should KNOW better!
AGAIN
I am NOT dismissing their rules.I still say they. . .Just fcuK it
Gigi26 says:
Sorry but that girl should blame her fukk ass parents for putting her in a school without reading the damn contract! Uhh if they say that they don’t want that, then guess what?! Take your kid to another school where they would accept it! Its just like the military, you can’t abide by the rules, take your behind somewhere else.
Sorry mama, but life is teaching you a valuable lesson. Not everything will go your way so always have a back up plan or an alternative.
FYI: The rule is offensive but they made that rule and if they’re not getting funds from the state, county, or city, then…unfortunately it is what it is.
September 4, 2013 at 11:41 am
And y’all know dayum well some lil’ girl was poppin’ and snappin’ behind this baby sangin’ “If you bald-head and you proud of it just git on the dance flo’!”
Kids are cruel, but they get the chit from examples they see.
Wiggy Houston bishazz had no right to shame this girl.
In my day they only sent kids home when they had ringworm or the mange in their head.
Shell be asking her Dad for a perm pretty soon. Poor baby. I just pray she still has edges by the time she gets to high school and that her Mom takes pride in herself so she’ll have Assn example and that her Dad tells her she’s pretty and smart so it’ll take away 80% of the burn. That baby looks hurt

So basically, if Blue Ivy went to this school with her current “do” them Carters gonna have to send the nanny out huh
Damn Sis, it’s like that. We are the ACC right now!
in ’12. And as far as football…b/c they is WHO they IS…they jacked all the tickets up. Cause the rest of the conf gotta help pay for their tv appearances. Bastids. UGH. I hate them so much as an entity.
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I havent liked Florida State since they brung they azzes to this conf back in 1991 with Sam Cassell ole Enemy Mine looking self and messed up basketball brackets. And then had GALL…the unmitigated GALL to win an ACC BB Championship
I’m sure your fro is neat and well-groomed.
Sandra Rose says:
Miany says:
I am working in the real world waiting on a bish to dismiss me behind my fro….
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I’m sure your fro is neat and well-groomed.
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I’m entitled to a bad hair day like every other white chick at the job. If they check me bout it they betta check Sally too 
Whatcha gonna do Miany?! SR giving you that slow smiling nod
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KayCeiSoul says:
It is noted that the school’s well-groomed principal wears her natural hair tucked under a tidy twist out wig.
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This shyt just made me fart in my seat, and NOW I’m all
!!!lmaooooooooooooo
she better off not being at that bytchass school anyway with them bytchass bytches
if i was another parent i would take my child(ren) out too. we aint raising no uncle tom over this way because that kind of thinking is cancerous and will poison the whole institution.
OutsidetheBox says:
Her big bow is sew cute.
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You so passive-aggressive.
But I lubbs me some yew.
THAT is what REALLY got her put out. That dayum bow.
thats it! where kdub at with this bish email address?!?!
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Hole up. I was consumed by my hatred of all things Seminole.
Didn’t we talk about this the other day
fad or no fad, the school had rules and well
and yes its a messed up rule. Folks better start reading the fine print
and then get all bent, because they didn’t read…..
Whether its their policy or not THEY ARE SAYING THAT HARSTYLES INTRISIC TO A CERTAIN CULTURE ARE FADDISH and not to be respected as a “normal” hairstyle. Afros are not fringe culture!
They would not tell a Hasidic Jew about their distracting ass hair.
Oh my peepa! 
goat76 says:
to your comment…
LOL @ Dreads being a fadish style. It’s a lot of dumb muthafcukas in this world, and at that school.
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**whispers** not their fault it is by design… Cleopatra was white btw
fighting the air like trey did in boyz n the hood
I just thought you were gonna flirt back Miany
Well?
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
Gigi26 says:
Sorry but that girl should blame her fukk ass parents for putting her in a school without reading the damn contract! Uhh if they say that they don’t want that, then guess what?! Take your kid to another school where they would accept it! Its just like the military, you can’t abide by the rules, take your behind somewhere else.
Sorry mama, but life is teaching you a valuable lesson. Not everything will go your way so always have a back up plan or an alternative.
FYI: The rule is offensive but they made that rule and if they’re not getting funds from the state, county, or city, then…unfortunately it is what it is.
September 4, 2013 at 11:41 am
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It’s a lot of dumb muthafcukas in this world, and at that school.
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And on this board. Yeah I said it.
S. Epatha Twerkerson says:
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That’s because I don’t fit neatly into any category. Are you new here?
dbrown at dbcschool dot org
lets check out the guidelines of the white charter schools. if they mention anything about hair styles, i’ll finish this apple juice, and go take a newborn baby azz nap a hour early.
Nothing GETS Me heated like messing with Kids!
Chii
my poor son wouldn’t utter a word bout much when he was in school.
Cause I would be the first thing smoking at 6:55 waiting on the principal,staff hell before the Cafeteria crew gets there.
I look like roadrunner getting to the school, mistreat mines!
So this majority black school isn’t educating black kids to create black businesses where they can wear black hairstyles and possibly hire black people but instead wants black kids to learn how to conform to work for yt people?
#deadmike
They would not tell a Hasidic Jew about their distracting ass hair. Oh my peepa!
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Are these the ones with the lil’ Shirley temple curl on each side Beebers?
This is why we grow up trying to emulate the others with our hair
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Some folks schools just do not allow certain hairstyles
OutsidetheBox says:
It’s a lot of dumb muthafcukas in this world, and at that school.
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And on this board. Yeah I said it.
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I am very passive aggressive @KayCe..working on it tho.
But I really do like her bow.
<–not really. OTB7 has loads of them..polka dot, plain, in the shapes of animals, birds, planes and trains (eBay) 
Whether its their policy or not THEY ARE SAYING THAT HARSTYLES INTRISIC TO A CERTAIN CULTURE ARE FADDISH and not to be respected as a “normal” hairstyle. Afros are not fringe culture!
They would not tell a Hasidic Jew about their distracting ass hair. Oh my peepa!
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You better PREACH….rat bastards
Shuga Honey says:
she better off not being at that bytchass school anyway with them bytchass bytches
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I’m sure she’s attending a school with lower standards where kids learn to drop fries and clean grills. McDonald’s is always hiring.
OutsidetheBox says:
It’s a lot of dumb muthafcukas in this world, and at that school.
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And on this board. Yeah I said it.
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Well damn
–Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:
Some folks schools just do not allow certain hairstyles
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chile
KayCeiSoul says:
They would not tell a Hasidic Jew about their distracting ass hair. Oh my peepa!
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Are these the ones with the lil’ Shirley temple curl on each side Beebers?
They misspelt “newsletter” on they website.
Shat is spelt NewsLetter. <<< like that.
Tiana is in a better place Terrance.
she better off not being at that bytchass school anyway with them bytchass bytches
if i was another parent i would take my child(ren) out too. we aint raising no uncle tom over this way because that kind of thinking is cancerous and will poison the whole institution.
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I would def take mine out. And our naptural ass puffs be laYed.
Who Dat says:
dbrown at dbcschool dot org
September 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm
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Hey DTTS & Luv & Err’body! 
Thanks Dubbs.
*Starts Letter*
Dear Mrs. Crabtree,
You are one evil wig wearing spinster.
I hate your stinkin’ guts. (via Alfalfa)
You are scum between my toes.
Signed…XXX
Bish.
OAN
I just read what the Jewish guy said to Anthony Wiener that made him go off
He said “you’re scum! & you’re married to an Arab”
Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:Some folks schools just do not allow certain hairstyles
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Totally agree with you to the 100th power,I said it in a few comments on here. MY problem is the way they handled this child!
its not What U say,its How you say it smH
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I know thas right. You big on cosigning some chit.
Holler back when you big on formulating your own views.
*checks to see if I sent for you…* Nerp.
The prestigious Suzuki School here in Atlanta has a 4-year-old boy who comes to school wearing dresses and makeup. The school’s administration actually encourages this abnormal behavior. What 4-year-old girl wears makeup?
Those are NOT her gums above her teeth like that?
Somebody tell me that is chewing gum, or a retainer, or a nose guard, or mashed potatoes or something….ANYTHING but gums that hold TEETH!?!?
This bish got gums like a ‘ranga’tang.
Point blank, the hair wasn’t straight or braided…So that’s unacceptable. Stop telling us black people how to do our hair. Hair that is locked is not meant to be neat unless you want it like that.
#sick of people
Apparition says:
So this majority black school isn’t educating black kids to create black businesses where they can wear black hairstyles and possibly hire black people but instead wants black kids to learn how to conform to work for yt people?
#deadmike
^^ TEACHING FOLK NOT TO EMULATE MASSSA????
too much like right, Too much like right.
Sandra Rose says:
Shuga Honey says:
she better off not being at that bytchass school anyway with them bytchass bytches
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I’m sure she’s attending a school with lower standards where kids learn to drop fries and clean grills. McDonald’s is always hiring.
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Lawd
He said “you’re scum! & you’re married to an Arab”

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Yes he did,seen the Footage on GMA
@ Sandra you are on a freakin roll today!
Some folks schools just do not allow certain hairstyles
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*that face.. *
From the website of the school: Currently the School includes kindergarten through fifth grade. At the School’s discretion, a grade may be added each year.
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Yall dont eem know how many grades yall want to have.
The word school does not have to be capilized either you know…It is not the name of a proper person, place or thing you id-giot. Bet Deb herself approved of the text. Probably proofread it personally.
OutsidetheBox says:
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I know thas right. You big on cosigning some chit.
Holler back when you big on formulating your own views.
*checks to see if I sent for you…* Nerp.
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Chile Get it together OTB
luVn_liFe… says:
Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:Some folks schools just do not allow certain hairstyles
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Totally agree with you to the 100th power,I said it in a few comments on here. MY problem is the way they handled this child!
its not What U say,its How you say it smH
^^ I agree Luvn, they did not have to speak to the child directly.
The prestigious Suzuki School here in Atlanta has a 4-year-old boy who comes to school wearing dresses and makeup
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Prestigious? And I bet its MAC. *tosses hair*
sayyy Whhaaaaa:
the Needle JUST scratched Cross the 45!
Was gonna post downstairs but ummmm DUBB tis why I lub you
I can watch that movie anytime and Due Date too
Goes back up to read post/comments
its not What U say,its How you say it smH
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But do we know ‘how they did it’? I didn’t watch the link, (not shatt comment coming up) Because ION fall for no crying kiddie mess
I can’t with this story, makes me want to put them paws on a bish.
So this majority black school isn’t educating black kids to create black businesses where they can wear black hairstyles and possibly hire black people but instead wants black kids to learn how to conform to work for yt people?
#deadmike
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Miany says:
luVn_liFe… says:
Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:Some folks schools just do not allow certain hairstyles
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Totally agree with you to the 100th power,I said it in a few comments on here. MY problem is the way they handled this child!
its not What U say,its How you say it smH
^^ I agree Luvn, they did not have to speak to the child directly.
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BAM!! no In Nene’s word blooop Bloop!
Whether its their policy or not THEY ARE SAYING THAT HARSTYLES INTRISIC TO A CERTAIN CULTURE ARE FADDISH and not to be respected as a “normal” hairstyle. Afros are not fringe culture!
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I was telling my mother this yesterday.
This bish got gums like a ‘ranga’tang<< this ish?
Do I need to read the write up to learn what yall know?
Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:
OAN
I just read what the Jewish guy said to Anthony Wiener that made him go off
He said “you’re scum! & you’re married to an Arab”
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all them middle easterns still in denial that they all look the fugg alike to the rest of us???
first thing that came to mind: “Cole you stupit”
Who Dat says:
This bish got gums like a ‘ranga’tang<< this ish?
When you encourage children to defy social norms by choosing their own hairstyles and clothing you raise spoiled narcissistic tyrants who believe they are entitled to do whatever they want to do. Adults are supposed to provide guidance to children, not enable their self-obsessed egos.
Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:
its not What U say,its How you say it smH
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But do we know ‘how they did it’? I didn’t watch the link, (not shatt comment coming up) Because ION fall for no crying kiddie mess
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It says they pulled her out of class.I didn’t watch the vid either.
My POINT
Did they really have to pull her out,So ALL the kids could
NO
they could have addressed it better than that.
Was it KC?
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
Because ION fall for no crying kiddie mess
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@harlem…18 yo be HAWT somebody call her and “Half Baked” on. We had it on few weekends back and that fawka had just bust out that door with his face painted like “Dead Presidents” ?? :crying1:
spoiled narcissistic
“Cole you stupit”
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Apparition says:
So this majority black school isn’t educating black kids to create black businesses where they can wear black hairstyles and possibly hire black people but instead wants black kids to learn how to conform to work for yt people?
#deadmike
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chiiiiiiile. like i said, we aint raising no new slaves over this way. i cant see why any other parent would leave their child in that school and think its emotionally safe. if they will do it to one for that reason they will do it for yours for another frivolous reason. dont believe me just watch. its like saying i only got cancer right *here* and thinking it wont affect the whole body.
wouldnt be nunna mine i know that much.
Lemme go see if I can Squeeze out a TURD

Cougar, ION mess around with kids

@Kaycei dumb azz said ‘ranga’tang. AHHHH I cant eem TYPE it and keep a straight face
When you encourage children to defy social norms by choosing their own hairstyles and clothing you raise spoiled narcissistic tyrants who believe they are entitled to do whatever they want to do. Adults are supposed to provide guidance to children, not enable their self-obsessed egos.
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I always wonder if you share your parenting advice with Tip and Tiny.
I be loving Zonnique’s wild colors and cuts and stuff so I hope you keep these views to yourself! :stop:
OutsidetheBox says:
Whether its their policy or not THEY ARE SAYING THAT HARSTYLES INTRISIC TO A CERTAIN CULTURE ARE FADDISH and not to be respected as a “normal” hairstyle. Afros are not fringe culture!
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RAZZLE says:
I was telling my mother this yesterday.
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Unless you are Rastafarian, this hairstyle is not intrinsic to your culture. Americans wear dreads as a fad. Wearing Dreads is spiritual, not a hairstyle.
That’s because I don’t fit neatly into any category. Are you new here?
Yes
Big fan btw. Been following you on twitter since you had that warning that non industry folks would not be allowed on your page
Were regressing as a society. As a Black society
Black is beautiful. I read a story where the school told a little girl her afro puffs violated policy. They retracted and revised their policies after some pressure from he community. People, including our people teach us that we are not good enough. We are less than. We start to agree over time and conform. We change our hair, lighten our skin. We need to nip this in the bud. At the right time. This is a baby. She needs to know that her hair is beautiful in its natural state. Unkept or not. Thats another problem. Not wanting to go outside if we arent beat from head to toe. Baby girl cant go play in the front yard unless her hair is on point. All that attention paid to a childs head, all the extra strain, braid and re braiding, the fear of not wanting your childs hair to be judged as unkept-is probably a contributing factor to why so many of us grow up to be bald. Baby pictures be looking all cute. Had pigtails as a child. Long ones at that, but by the time 16 rolls around cant even get your hair into a ponytail without the assistance of clips, brown jail, and extensions #ijs
Man fck that prinicpal and whomever agrees. I went to a PRIVATE school and you can rewrite bullchit policies if money will be lost. Fck them. Its not what you say its HOW you say it. FCK you and that wack ass rat infested wig needs to be banned
You stay naming the different narcissists
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Mannie mannie types. :crying1:
*gel I didnt type that the system did
I know the difference betwixt the 2.
luVn_liFe… says:
Lemme go see if I can Squeeze out a TURD
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#tiredofyewwwww
Me, again?
Charter schools DO receive state and federal funding. I wish a mugfugger would tell hypothetical BC6 that she couldn’t wear her hair in the way in grows out of her head (afro). I wouldn’t even windmill anyone. I would attempt a resolution without even raising my voice. “They” hate it when we act like we have some sense, because we’re supposed to be barbaric and all…
welp.
my daughter wanted to wear her easter dress with her jordans to my son’s graduation ceremony and i let her.
who, i ask, is gone check me boo?
im raising her to be HER, everybody else’s identity is already taken. she aint no clone.
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
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Right. If it's true that her daddy sent her to school like that last yr., this should have been addressed then. This childs hair is far from combed.
The problem I have with the whole thing…Tiana was at this school LAST school year and nobody said ish.
So if rules are rules etc etc EGGCETERA… then they should be enforced all the time.
Not when you got time.
Or in between time.
OutsidetheBox says:
I always wonder if you share your parenting advice with Tip and Tiny.
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The Harris’s don’t consult me for advice on raising their children — which they’re doing a fine job of. #helpful
And how the fck is our NATURAL state of hair defying social norms?!! This is EXACTLY why we as a race is FCKD. To damn busy tryna please everyone else. Motherfckers cant even go out with their natural state bc they have been BRAINWASHED to believe that white is right. Got me in here cussin like a sailor
DUBB
not dead presidents though
ion either, but i got a soft spot for a few. my lil cuz be coming home talmbout somebody child keep saying her new glasses aren’t pretty. i’m a softy for her cuz she my lil buddy. knowing how i am, i’d be at the school ever morning knocking kids breakfast trays outta they hands fuggin’ with mines.
Uh oh…..everyone have a good day!!!
Come to think about it, fros and locs are on long running ass fad.
@dtts
that one wasn’t for u…
THAT TIME
OutsidetheBox says:
I be loving Zonnique’s wild colors and cuts and stuff so I hope you keep these views to yourself!
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Zonnique is a young lady who is allowed to make her own style choices because she has proven herself to be a mature adult. She is not 6 years old.
@ BrownskinQT: Thanks for stopping by hun.
She is not 6 years old
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She not an adult neither.
Sandra Rose says:
Unless you are Rastafarian, this hairstyle is not intrinsic to your culture. Americans wear dreads as a fad. Wearing Dreads is spiritual, not a hairstyle
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Well, Jesus’ hair was like wool. It DAMN sure wasn’t straight like White and Korean Jeezus. Who’s to say that they aren’t Christian??
BrownskinQT says:
Uh oh…..everyone have a good day!!!
I can’t believe the backwards logic…
If something comes from you unaltered, how can it be a fad???
That is like the ONE CONSTANT in your ever changing beauty regime… IT will grow and it will grow out TEXTURED.
Also I don’t understand how natural hair on my (or anyone else’s) head can bother someone else?? Look bad to you? don’t look…
it’s not enough for you to hide yo hair, you wanna hide mine too??? FOHWTBS
I just wish black folk :stop: It’s like folk wanna shii on u and u give em a laxative.
We’re the only women who can’t present in our natural form??? NAH FUGG THAT. I have options.. If i wanna wear a wig, weave, clip in, etc. I can. If I wanna perm, thats me. If I choose not to alter my hair…I can do so and anyone who wanna slow me down for doing that wont like what I have to say about that.
#helpful
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BrownskinQT says:
Uh oh…..everyone have a good day!!!
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you can stay and play with me. imma be good
OutsidetheBox says:
“Cole you stupit”
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Where you been all day
hey boo! i been here crackin thee heck up!
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
Was it KC?
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Nawl! I don't bother nobody!
OMG!
Missouri man exposed 300-plus to HIV, police say
(CNN) — Prosecutors in rural Missouri have charged a man with exposing his partner to HIV and say he may have exposed more than 300 other people to the virus that causes AIDS.
David Mangum told police he had at least that many unprotected sexual encounters with people he met online or in parks since he was diagnosed with HIV in 2003, Dexter, Missouri, detective Sgt. Corey Mills told CNN. Mills said it will be difficult to find and warn those people, since Mangum “usually only knew his partners’ first names.”
Mangum was arrested after his former partner told police that Mangum had lied to him about his status, a police affidavit states. He was arraigned Thursday morning in Stoddard County, about 160 miles south of St. Louis, with bail set at $250,000. The former partner has tested positive for HIV, according to police.
Mangum, 36, told police that between 50 and 60 of his partners lived in Stoddard County, according to court records.
Knowingly exposing someone to HIV without their consent is a felony under Missouri law that can bring prison terms up to 15 years. Infecting someone can bring a life term.
Im MOst pissT off at this principals ratty a.s.s wig talkin bout someone else shyte
FOH
Zonnique is a young lady who is allowed to make her own style choices because she has proven herself to be a mature adult. She is not 6 years old.
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This is the one Harris I might know more about than you.
Well aware of Miss Zonnique and her fabness. Thats why I know you aint. 
This not about the Harris kids. This is about this baby right here. An adult has no bidness directly addressing NO child about something like their appearance. The end. You need to take that up with the parent. Part dos deux and two. And these is some azzholes up at that school in Tulsa. The final sequel.
MissHarlem says:
go on and cuss girrl …fah empahsis.
And how the fck is our NATURAL state of hair defying social norms?!! This is EXACTLY why we as a race is FCKD. To damn busy tryna please everyone else. Motherfckers cant even go out with their natural state bc they have been BRAINWASHED to believe that white is right. Got me in here cussin like a sailor
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3oclock. *Kenya twirls out the blog*
Yall be blessed and safe.
On a lighter not….. Google ‘The Legend of Jameis Winston’
Should be an espn article with a hand-written note.
Very good story about a good kid, on and off the field.
luVn_liFe… says:
Im MOst pissT off at this principals ratty a.s.s wig talkin bout someone else shyte
FOH
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you typing that with THAT gravi ticked me so
do you know some schools have the same dresscode for teachers as they do for students?
OutsidetheBox says:
It’s a lot of dumb muthafcukas in this world, and at that school.
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And on this board. Yeah I said it.
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*waves church fan* Jesus on the main line. Tell him what you want. *touches and agrees*
Who Dat says:
An adult has no bidness directly addressing NO child about something like their appearance.
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Unless that child violates school policy. This issue is resolved because the child has transferred to a school with lower standards.
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
Do I need to read the write up to learn what yall know?
Hit me up on skype later After 6pm pst. Thats when Mista goes to sleep
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Ok suga
The bright side of this ordeal is that the beautiful young lady has a supportive father who is affirming her and letting her know that she is beautiful with her natural hair. GOD Bless this family!
The bright side of this ordeal is that the beautiful young lady has a supportive father who is affirming her and letting her know that she is beautiful with her natural hair. GOD Bless this family!
agreeed 
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Shuga Honey says:
luVn_liFe… says:
Im MOst pissT off at this principals ratty a.s.s wig talkin bout someone else shyte
FOH
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you typing that with THAT gravi ticked me so
do you know some schools have the same dresscode for teachers as they do for students?
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AS they Should,what’s good for one is BEST for All
#96/#147
Is the same Question,perhaps.
YES, her hair looks like crap. Let’s be real. Dreads are not a NATURAL state of hair. I believe AFROS are to an extent but not dreads. Technical manipulation is required for dreads, as are mohawks, braids and otherwise. Apparently, they have a strict code of rules. Same applies to the military…there’s a strict code of rules. You follow or you get the EFF out. Period. Let’s stop with all this emotional uproar and BS for real.
meaning like the teachers have to wear the same uniforms as the kids do. all the same white hose/black shoes rules would apply.
my friends who teach were against it.
Unless that child violates school policy.
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She SIX. You think she decided to grow her hair into dreads? She was there last year and she was five..so most likely she came there with the dreads in her head. She BEEN violating school policy is my point. She came there violating policy… but now its an issue? Nobody said nothing! Deb rang-a-tang gummed school founding but cant spell azz prolly enrolled her PERSONALLY.
I hope Tiana’s parents sues the naps out of that bish wig.
luVn_liFe… says:
#96/#147
Is the same Question,perhaps.
SO Schmart
:rollseyes: (for yew) lol
and the POINT of it All ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sandra Rose says:
When you encourage children to defy social norms by choosing their own hairstyles and clothing you raise spoiled narcissistic tyrants who believe they are entitled to do whatever they want to do. Adults are supposed to provide guidance to children, not enable their self-obsessed egos.
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AMEN…. ALL DAY
Dreads are not a NATURAL state of hair. I believe AFROS are to an extent but not dreads. Technical manipulation is required for dreads,
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Technical manipulation is required to maintain the dreads, not for them to form, thus, the formation of the dreads is natural. And I know that for a fact. Both my brothers have dreads. My uncle and family friends in Jamaica have them as well. The two rastas that live three doors down from my grandmom all my life, have them. So I know. And honestly, if any teacher, school, or anyone else does not call me about my 6 year old not following the dress code, I’m gonna be mad. 6 year olds don’t do their own hair. The parents do, so address them.
NOW settle DOWN!
What can they sue for?
SUe for allowing me to break a rule, and then sue for the school enforcing the rule?
I don’t like it, don’t get me wrong, it’s just that I apply other situations to things, and think about if they are ‘lawsuit worthy’ and this IMB is not
In lawsuits you have to be able to prove there was “damage” 
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They could get the community involved and write a petition to change the policy, but other than that
@DTTS… nah… me personally, I assumed they were talking to her directly cuz it said she ‘was sent home from school’
but I see your point it’s their school, their rule….. what I don’t see is the validity of said rule.
I don’t care much for authority and I’m the type to fight a (school, company, anything) on some ‘wrong is wrong, right is right’ stuff. I be like x,y,z may be true but its the principle.
luVn_liFe… says:
NOW settle DOWN!
this post done almost tore us apart. somebody hold me
Ok, but when in Rome or under the Roman empire, you do as the Romans do. If we are in Jamaica, thats great. Or if you are the US, send your kid(s) to another school that doesn’t have these STRICT rules in place. How you gonna have an uproar (the fam in the story, not you) and get angry about rules you already knew about probably on day one? Then try to get everyone emotionally vested with the crying and all. Shame that they approached the child but yes, the parents were wrong.
cougar lover says:this post done almost tore us apart. somebody hold me


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Mainly cause Yew been at it all day,keeping me laughing hard,Im still mad whatchu said bout sidibe
Mainy
ie. read the contract/rules/policies
I think we all agree that’s it’s not fair, some of us just think about knowing what you’re getting yourself into beforehand
cougar lover says:
this post done almost tore us apart. somebody hold me
Okay
DoNotDeleteMe says:
The bright side of this ordeal is that the beautiful young lady has a supportive father who is affirming her and letting her know that she is beautiful with her natural hair. GOD Bless this family!
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True! and if HE is the one doing her hair then that explains why ppl might think it looks like “crap” (shudders).
to me personally, it looks fine. when my child’s hair is frizzy its because she is having a good time and living the carefree life that she is supposed to. i love it for a baby to look like a baby or a child to look like a child.
People getting in an uproar over some damn hair and ish talking about getting the community involved and writing letters to change a policy?@!?!? You see that ish? That that ish right there I’m talking about. Why can’t people get all upset and emotionally charged over reading and math scores not being high enough? Why not write letters to change policies if your school isn’t offering SINGAPORE math and muliti-language programs in your elementary schools? Why not get angry and ish if your schools don’t have enough IPADS and computers like the rich, white neighborhoods. THEN YOU CAN WRITE ALL THE LETTERS YOUR WANT. But when mofos start talking about hair and dress codes and ish, everybody want to get indignant and getting their emotional guns out. C’mon!
SMMFH
DTS I bought that book for a few of my friends
you know the one you had me check out from the library :woot: they love it
@SandraRose
Plz bring on the next crisis
And honestly, if any teacher, school, or anyone else does not call me about my 6 year old not following the dress code, I’m gonna be mad. 6 year olds don’t do their own hair. The parents do, so address them.
like I said… too much like right
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3halos says:
People getting in an uproar over some damn hair and ish talking about getting the community involved and writing letters to change a policy?@!?!? You see that ish? That that ish right there I’m talking about. Why can’t people get all upset and emotionally charged over reading and math scores not being high enough? Why not write letters to change policies if your school isn’t offering SINGAPORE math and muliti-language programs in your elementary schools? Why not get angry and ish if your schools don’t have enough IPADS and computers like the rich, white neighborhoods. THEN YOU CAN WRITE ALL THE LETTERS YOUR WANT. But when mofos start talking about hair and dress codes and ish, everybody want to get indignant and getting their emotional guns out. C’mon!
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3halos says:
Ok, but when in Rome or under the Roman empire, you do as the Romans do. If we are in Jamaica, thats great
All my kernels didn’t in this dang dollar store popcorn
Why not get angry and ish if your schools don’t have enough IPADS and computers like the rich, white neighborhoods.
^^ just so you knmow… funding to the schools are directly related to the economic contribution of the area it serves. SOoOO if a neighborhood is RICH be it black or white, the schools should be stocked similarly.
Seeing that baby crying in that pic is disturbing. With the exception of a bun and 1 or 2 ponytails ALL hairstyles are a fad. Like 100%. And definately that wig is a fad style.
jeniefrumdabloc says:
DTS I bought that book for a few of my friends
you know the one you had me check out from the library :woot: they love it
Awesome

I haven’t finished mine
You stay naming the different narcissist
Mannie mannie types.
by OutsidetheBox on Sep 5, 2013 at 2:50 pm
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*guffaws*
Moving on serious face
While I do understand the theory of its their rules you don’t have to attend or join and I made this blanket statement yesterday— I do find it problematic that her hair which was not in dreds was deemed distracting. What style should her hair have been in? While we do not know if her hair is always groomed as he stated it seems as if they wanted it a specific way. Permed? Long braids? A curly fry wig like Principal Idiot? I feel like this wasn’t about dreds because lesbi honest…. That baby had small hopes but it was not full dreds :lolsign:
You are right, it’s not fair. THE BS we endure to work 3 times as hard for half of the respect and opportunities but that’s why its so important to teach our kids to play the game and play it hard. Wear yo dreads and whatever you want when you own that business when you grow up. Wear yo fro when they calling DOCTOR. SOANDSO through the hospital. It is what it is. But we can’t go giving energy to some thorns. We can’t fight every war. So we pick and choose and battles and give energy to the roses where we can plant a real garden in the future.
3halos says:
People getting in an uproar over some damn hair and ish talking about getting the community involved and writing letters to change a policy?@!?!? You see that ish? That that ish right there I’m talking about. Why can’t people get all upset and emotionally charged over reading and math scores not being high enough? Why not write letters to change policies if your school isn’t offering SINGAPORE math and muliti-language programs in your elementary schools? Why not get angry and ish if your schools don’t have enough IPADS and computers like the rich, white neighborhoods. THEN YOU CAN WRITE ALL THE LETTERS YOUR WANT. But when mofos start talking about hair and dress codes and ish, everybody want to get indignant and getting their emotional guns out. C’mon!
SMMFH
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because at least in THIS case, the girl wasnt kicked out of school for anything academic. the school focused on her hair. thats why the response is regarding her hair.
my kids’ school teaches every single lesson in english, spanish and french by the way. they have EXTREMELY high test scores and let the children wear their hair any way the want to. nitpicking at hair = lower self image/esteem = time taken away from academics = failure on all levels (social, academic, etc). the school has insulted its students on a personal level thats why it stings the way it does.
Emotional can be a damage. You see that baby up top crying her lil EYES out? That is emotional damage. Mental distress. Folks sue over it ALL THE TIME.
Either you all in when it comes to enforcing your rules…or you all out. You cant be oh we are real strict “this year”…umm yall had the same policy LAST year. Were they warned and they didn’t comply? Doesn’t say. We don’t know. Dont change the fact Tiana is crying behind it tho.
No
for you! 
*settling down now*
FYI… that when in ROme do as ROmans shii don’t apply…
Believe it or not black folk, this yo country tooo.
I was born in this dayum country… NO ONE can tell me I aint 100% American. Why???? Cuz I don’t look WHITE? ohh ok..like I said, wrong is wrong.
If Sally can do it, Sara black azz can do it.. My MOTTO
Who Dat says:
Emotional can be a damage. You see that baby up top crying her lil EYES out? That is emotional damage. Mental distress. Folks sue over it ALL THE TIME.
Either you all in when it comes to enforcing your rules…or you all out. You cant be oh we are real strict “this year”…umm yall had the same policy LAST year. Were they warned and they didn’t comply? Doesn’t say. We don’t know. Dont change the fact Tiana is crying behind it tho.
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ALL THAT NEEDS PROOF THOUGH. Proof od “damage” that can be equated into a $ figure… You think her parents took her to the psychologist yet?
ION fall for the kiddie tears, and I didn’t watch the video so
no comment on what she said.
When in Rome…. simply implies that you follow the rules wherever you go… If I’m working for abc company, I follow abc rules. In xyz school, I follow xyz rules…that’s all.
they have EXTREMELY high test scores and let the children wear their hair any way the want to. nitpicking at hair = lower self image/esteem = time taken away from academics = failure on all levels (social, academic, etc). the school has insulted its students on a personal level thats why it stings the way it does.
the school know it too, they just aint cared 
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I was born in this dayum country…
Hello
Yet a muthasucka who snuck his azz into this country has more rights and liberties than me
Chile please! While we sit here debating and arguing, were all losing, and shall continue too 
This popcorn situation is a BIG crisis im HunGarrrry! IOn got no vehicle til afta 5PM,I cant go get food
%Couldn’t squeeze out a turd for this post,just auuugggh.
I feel you, but we change laws to accommodate different religions, gays, and so on. We dont want anyone to feel left out, ostracized or less American. Theres currently a man fighting to practice law in the U.S. even though hes an undocumented immigrant. Hell probably win his case. Why are Black folks not getting the same treatment? Instead of America growing with us and changing as we change, were the ones being forced to conform. Change our appearance, become less threatening, change our speech patterns to be accepted in the workplace. Its not the American way. At least not the new American way The people from duck Dynasty and shows like that are considered entertaining and Southern. If they were Black it would be ghetto. America is embracing that Southern type of Honey boo boo slang, unless it comes out of our mouths #IJS Its not fair

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I feel you, but we change laws to accommodate different religions, gays, and so on. We dont want anyone to feel left out, ostracized or less American. Theres currently a man fighting to practice law in the U.S. even though hes an undocumented immigrant. Hell probably win his case. Why are Black folks not getting the same treatment? Instead of America growing with us and changing as we change, were the ones being forced to conform. Change our appearance, become less threatening, change our speech patterns to be accepted in the workplace.
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PREACH.
S. Epatha Twerkerson says:
3halos says:
I feel you, but we change laws to accommodate different religions, gays, and so on. We dont want anyone to feel left out, ostracized or less American. Theres currently a man fighting to practice law in the U.S. even though hes an undocumented immigrant. Hell probably win his case. Why are Black folks not getting the same treatment? Instead of America growing with us and changing as we change, were the ones being forced to conform. Change our appearance, become less threatening, change our speech patterns to be accepted in the workplace. Its not the American way. At least not the new American way
The people from duck Dynasty and shows like that are considered entertaining and Southern. If they were Black it would be ghetto. America is embracing that Southern type of Honey boo boo slang, unless it comes out of our mouths #IJS Its not fair
Ok, but when in Rome or under the Roman empire, you do as the Romans do. If we are in Jamaica, thats great
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Kdub
My sons school told me this year, just last week, (paraphrase –> Last year we allowed X, when we shouldn’t have, so this year we just want to make sure that everyone abides by the rules.
And what he was talmbout HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY SON
so I just listened and agreed 
if the school is in a black community serving black children then its only right that they learn to ebb and flow with black hair. i dont see any logical reason for why they wouldnt.
but anyway chile, im bout to go let an asian lady wax the hair from offa my nether regions. is that ironic, or nah?
see yall on the morrow
To be honest, this is just as important as schools being under funded or money being misused.
1. Your paying an administrator to educate. A child’s hair style has nothing to do with education. Therefore, money is being wasted on an administrator who is more concerned about denying kids an education because of what she believes is a fad.
This aint about 1 thing, its about another. Trayvon Martin, but but but what about Black on Black crime, what about whats happening in Chicago…I mean damn. We stay losing
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
jeniefrumdabloc says:
you know the one you had me check out from the library :woot: they love it
DTS I bought that book for a few of my friends
Awesome
I haven’t finished mine
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Now you know damn well !!!
wow!!
HAVE Y’ALL TAKEN THE TIME OUT TO DISCUSS KIM KARDASHIAN’S PREGNANCY PHOTOS YET??
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School just started back so this school is just enforcing it’s rules
The moment when you get a text b/c someone done recognized your belly in ya blog gravi from a similar FB post… and a fellow attorney at that!!!! MY INNER RATCHET HAS BEEN EXPOSED!!!! I see you T!!!

FcuK that kiMMode bissh
@3halos…I understand what you meant by it.
I’m just saying when it comes to discriminating against someone on such a minimal level like HAIR. When in Rome doesn’t apply cuz black folk in all their natural, nappy, kinky, coarse glory are just as much entitled to walking, talking, learning and living in this county as their silkier haired counterparts.
Impossibru
1. Your paying an administrator to educate. A child’s hair style has nothing to do with education. Therefore, money is being wasted on an administrator who is more concerned about denying kids an education because of what she believes is a fad.
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Mind you her own damn hair in a fad as well, but ok. Not only that, but why have these rules to make these kids believe that dreads or whatever will not be accepted in the workplace? Because you can wear your dreads to work. And they can’t tell you that you can’t (well at least not in here. The ethics department in here don’t play that shyt)
Im ready to :hunch:
We are never allowed to focus on the issue at hand
If I mention police corruption somebody gone always throw Tawana Brawley in my face
If I mention this, they gone mention that. At the end of the day, a loss for this little girl, is a loss for you
Good day 
You think her parents took her to the psychologist yet?
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To the daddy Terry…if you reading take Tiana to a shrink. Have them say she is so bummed out that her own KIND is downing on her hair when that bish sitting up there wearing a very bad straw set synthetic wig…that she cant concentrate on her school work at her new academic placement…it has made her quiet and withdrawn; and that she has self identity issues now and ongoing. Put whatever money you get into a college fund for this young black queen.
that’s right miany, you’s an american and you is important!
luvy, i’d be mad too, made you waste yo whole dollar.. i bought that jiffy pop kind from there once. it was making popping noises, but that metal top never puffed up.
@S. Epatha.. thats why I keep
@bomb
School priorities is a joke, if they are concerned about what’s on the outside of one’s head rather than what’s in one’s head.
Hell, I think they should OUTLAW weave in children’s head
And before anyone says anything, I’ll say why!
1. It has the little girl thinking that her own hair isn’t fabulous enough!
2. She will forever and a day think that that’s the only acceptable hair in her head.
And before you know everybody’s got Naomi Campbell’s edges
HAVE Y’ALL TAKEN THE TIME OUT TO DISCUSS KIM KARDASHIAN’S PREGNANCY PHOTOS YET??
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@razz do we have to? They were a Kanye inspired mess. Ewww. They won’t even let the baby dress in color.
S. Epatha Twerkerson says:
This aint about 1 thing, its about another. Trayvon Martin, but but but what about Black on Black crime, what about whats happening in Chicago…I mean damn. We stay losing
It’s sad yes …. but I refuse to let this (racism) mess with me
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In the end we will win, we just need more men like you to uplift, to stay positive, to help be an example
Who Dat says:
You think her parents took her to the psychologist yet?
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To the daddy Terry…if you reading take Tiana to a shrink. Have them say she is so bummed out that her own KIND is downing on her hair when that bish sitting up there wearing a very bad straw set synthetic wig…that she cant concentrate on her school work at her new academic placement…it has made her quiet and withdrawn; and that she has self identity issues now and ongoing. Put whatever money you get into a college fund for this young black queen.
@DTTS I for one do NOT like perms or weaves in the heads of little girls. That irks me
Doesn’t Talk To Strangers says:
Hell, I think they should OUTLAW weave in children’s head
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I agree.
luvy, i’d be mad too, made you waste yo whole dollar.. i bought that jiffy pop kind from there once. it was making popping noises, but that metal top never puffed up.
Being One 
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LMBOOO! Never Again,something’s U just cant skimp on
luVn_liFe… says:
Im ready to :hunch:
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Can I watch??
I will never get with the idea that we must make our hair of European inlfuence until we see any kind of success
goat76 says:
luVn_liFe… says:
Im ready to :hunch:
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Can I watch??
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FREAK
When little girls cry I want to fight somebody, point em’ out baby. Her Daddy did her hair and as long as it doesn’t stink or has lice falling from it, it’s a non mf factor to her education. Her hair is matted, she needs some sort of detangler, oil and parts. As much as I’m pro natural, at that age hair is hard to manage if you are not experienced with extra tight curl patterns.
Kanye had a hand in that ugly shat of a photo shoot she did!
It’s the parents’ fault. They knew this girl was in violation and they pulled it. Little girl learned a good life lesson, cause if she played that in Corporate America she’s get got real quick.
…but she’s not in corporate America. She’s a child, and she’ll have plenty of time to “conform” to someone else’s standards.
Like others have said, if she builds her own business, she won’t have to conform to someone else’s standards or values unless it pertains directly to their employment or the public in general, i.e. someone working in the food industry or such with dirty, unkempt hair. This child is in school, and she’s a straight A student. This school of Black administrators have their heads up their behinds. JMO.
The problem, like others said, is how they went about it. I wonder if this school would accept a disabled child or another thing they deem “distracting.”
But I bet weaves, fried and laid to the side hair styles are allowed. As long as you don’t wear your “own” hair it’s fine. I guess wearing your hair like the European woman is acceptable. Pathetic a$$ holes.
Been in lurk mode for a while… but I must say hearing that baby cry about her hair brought tears to my eyes. I hope that she can overcome this and is doing well with the choice that she and her parents made for her hair.
I wish a ninja would…