By now you’ve heard the horror stories about police departments abusing the civil asset forfeiture law to seize cash from hard working citizens.
Even if drivers aren’t carrying cash on them, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol can still seize their money by using a card reader that drains money from their bank accounts!
The ERAD device is a card reader that scans prepaid cards, credit cards or debit cards, then withdraws all the money from the accounts without authorization.
The way it works is a highway patrol officer stops a motorist for a minor traffic infraction. If the officer suspects that the motorist has a lot of money, the officer uses the device to scan the driver’s credit cards or debit card then seizes all the cash in their accounts or credit card balance.
As usual, no warrant is necessary for the police to drain bank accounts.
Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent told News9 that officers look for body language cues and other signs of deception before seizing cash.
“We’re gonna look for different factors in the way that you’re acting,” Vincent said.
He added that motorists must prove they are business owners, and that the cash is proceeds from their business.
“If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we’ve done that in the past,” Vincent said.
But victims who had their cash seized have reported paying thousands of dollars to attorneys and waiting months or even years before their money was returned.
“We’ve seen single mom’s stuff be taken, a cancer survivor [had] his drugs taken,” said State Senator Kyle Loveless. “We’ve seen innocent people’s stuff being taken. We’ve seen where the money goes and how it’s been misspent,” Loveless said.
News 9 obtained a copy of the contract between the CHP and the manufacturer of the ERAD device.
It shows the state paid the company $5,000 for the software and scanners, and the state kicks back 7.7 percent of all the cash the highway patrol steals seizes.
But why are they doing it??
I gotta start listening to my man more. He has been talking about this type of thing for years. He was referring to identity theives scanning your info from a distance and I thought he was being a bit extra. Now I know . . .
But why????i guess the dope boys and criminals don’t walk around with cash they can steal. So they have to be able to swipe their pre paid cards.?
This doesn’t make sense. What is the purpose of doing this?
I stopped using debit cards altogether because stores use debit and credit cards to steal your personal information. You do not have to give a cashier your phone number, email address or zip code to complete a debit or credit card transaction.
Cash Grab
Police seize your cash to pay for police equipment and to pay cop salaries.
How is this legal? So they randomly take your money, then you have to prove you earned it fair and square? What now?
We’ve seen where the money goes and how it’s been misspent
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It is being misspent if it’s not being spent by the person that the money belongs to.
I tried to use my card in the hood once. He snatched it out of my hand so fast I was speechless. Found out that day that that neighborhood is cash only or you’ll get got. Apparently the resourceful people in that area use their powers for evil.
Exactly! Who are they to determine whether or not someone is wealthy or not? If they’re committing a crime, arrest them and let the judge determine restitution. This is some bull….
Back in Baltimore you had to know how much money was in your pockets.
Because if they asked you, and you guessed wrong…
Talk about a shake down. I wonder under what grounds does one decide to use such a device.
What do you use now, bitcoin?
That’s just crazy. Police have way too much power.
always creating ways to steal hard working ppls money & who is just handing over there bank cards?
It does make sense if you’re the cops. They can take your money for almost any reason and make you pay to get it back. It’s a money making venture for them. This post just showed me that they can do it electronically in an instant.
Remember the story last year about a black young man who saved up to move to L.A. and start his music career? He was pulled over in the desert somewhere and they wouldn’t believe that he had earned the money legitimately so they took it. In his case it was thousands in cash. I would have been spitting fire that day, mother of dragons style. ?
That’s why you have to lean on them, when they are outta line.
That means they could seize my money because I’m a nicca in a coupe. Why should I have to prove it’s not drug money? They need to prove it is.
Oklahoma where the wind comes sweeping down the plain
And the wavin’ wheat can sure smell sweet
When the wind comes right behind the rain
Oklahoma ev’ry night my honey lamb and I
Sit alone and talk, and watch a hawk
Makin lazy circles in the sky
Probably robbing those Indians coming off the reservation.
i want some of what you are on.
So what do you do? Not carry any cash or cards with you?
Ummm excuse me? Come ahgane?
Right!
FOH
credit cards
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So you’re going to ****up folks credit tew? That’s cold-blooded.
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Well quick question…how do you call the police on the police?
Well my glove compartment is locked so is the trunk and the back…And I know my rights so you gon’ need a warrant for that…Nah I ain’t passed the bar but I know a little bit…Enough that you won’t illegally search my sh!t…I got 99 problems but a bi#ch ain’t one.
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We THOUGHT we only had 99 problems & Jigga taught us the right steps to take if you’re asked for a search, buuuut this is NOT the case now. Dudes trying to just get home in these streets with no bodily harm…arrests & whatnot & NOW THIS? This CAN’T be life, this can’t be love…This can’t be right, there’s gotta be more, this can’t be us.
Take a debit card with only the amount of money you’re going to spend and an extra $50 in case of emergency or just use cash. Wrap it in tissue and stuff it in your bra or something. I wouldn’t be walking around with a credit card that had thousands and thousands of dollars on it. Nuh uh .
Break me off a piece too shidd…
Me er’day at the precinct: ‘It’s my money and I need it now so you better come run me my dayum money’.
Cut up the cards, and don’t carry a lot of money on you. Just enough to buy gas and other necessities.
Then how we gone Eat????
Tell me you just Sprankled this story hmmmm….
Lemme go back and fully read this because somethings amiss
Who is overseeing this?
Control?
Is Apple Pay better?
This hit
That ice cold
Michelle Pfeiffer
That white gold.
I don’t this they could get away with that in major citys
Pigs.
Pigs. Then the pigs pigs are.
This doesn’t make sense. So you telling me you can get pulled over for running a stop light and you’re asked to open your wallet so they can see how much money you have? LIES I SAY!! Your car, persons, or personal items can not be searched without a warrant. Now if you got 10k riding in the front seat like a passenger, then that’s a different story…
Keep 100 on you. $50 for gas, $50 for food. Sucks don’t itz
are these folks in custody? ’cause I don’t see how a traffic stop results in me handing over my credit card… license and registration, yes, but not the contents of my wallet???????????
I remember that story. DEA agents asked him if they could search his bags, and he said yes. They stole $16,000 from him. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/07/dea-asset-forfeiture-joseph-rivers_n_7231744.html
Here’s another case where cops stole $11,000 from a young man.
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/17/8792623/civil-forfeiture-charles-clarke
Phuck the police. This is some Gestapo type ish. Phuck George W. Bush and his patriot act starting this nanny state bull?. Yall see the video on WSHH the other day with a cop tasing this (white) dude like a maniac….. handcuffed him and dropped the guy on his face. It’s sick how much cops are allowed to get away with.
I noticed the victims of these crimes were white boys…no?
The $16,000 case was a black dude. They seize white folks’ money too. It’s a business.
It’s all too real Spilly
Most of the victims gave police permission to search their belongings, or they told the cops they had money on them.
They do, all the time. Sounds made up but it’s not
I was just in Pier1 on Saturday and the cashier asked for my phone number! she was like ‘ma’am we just need your phone number to begin the transaction’
I told her I didn’t see why or how that was necessary as I have no established account with Pier1
she then changed up and said ‘well we don’t share the information with anyone’ …at that point I told her I don’t give out my phone number and just gave her the *blank stare*
she finally stopped talking and rang up my acrylic wine glasses, TUH!
I went to Aldi’s with my nieces and told them to get what they wanted. we get up there and lo and behold they don’t take credit cards! I seldom carry cash, but thanks be I had some that day. I don’t think I’ve been back to Aldi since, and that was at least 2yrs ago, Lol!
lmfao are they real cops? this sound like when you steal a police car and outfit in GTA.
militaristic state here we come :/
This is where I got all fugged up! I mean, I may have 99 problems, but handing a bish cop my wallet ain’t one!
Now THIS is something to Protest And Petition. Fugg ah lion or ape!
Let’s not sweep this one under the rug!
so if you deny them the right to search your belongings without a warrant, what happens next? I know if you say no some people will try and make you wait while they get one…
I remember seeing where a young man would not roll down his window. He provided his license, insurance and registration by placing it on the window. He told them his rights did not include rolling down the window, but providing just that information and accepting the ticket for whatever the infraction was. He recorded the whole thing.
Anyone remember this?
aw but that white dude who killed that lion was messed up :/
My face AS SOON as I get asked if I have any money would be
¿Como Que?
is it the same dude who cops kept asking for papers when he was crossing the border..?
Nah that’s Sport :/ lol
He paid for X and they scammed him into killing the wrong damn lion.
oh, they were over-sharing, smh
the last time I got pulled over I don’t think I even said two words to the trooper. (stopped for a cracked windshield in the middle of winter, wtf im’a run out and fix it for if yall let the tractor trailers throw ice off the top of those big rigs, but yall don’t pull THEM over!)
And that man’s life is ruined. I wish him better than that lion…
*note to self*
stay the fugg outta Baltimore, smh
don’t even….
random troll, smh
ROFL!!!!
This!^^^^^
i’ll wait for YEW to explain it to MEE…. ’cause something’s amiss, smh
LOL! right, like uh bruh, I got 30 days to pay this ticket right?
ROFL!!!!!!!!!
The THINGS “these” people WILL do, DOESN’T even surprise me. One of the last times I had a hearing (for my TITANIUM blood flowing to my foot & getting clocked on it) was for a speeding ticket. Get there & NOTICE OFF TOP it’s a dude cop standing across & NOT the funky attitude dreadlocks female cop. I SAT there & allowed him to explain HOW & WHERE I was clocked. Judge asked if it was true? Politely said, “uhhh, your honor….this is NOT the cop that pulled me over.” He proceeds to ask him & he says, “Yeah it’s true. My partner had another case & sent me here.” Judge told him that’s “hear say” & if it wasn’t you doing the clocking then this isn’t allowed. At that POINT was told if I had no other court issues, I was free to go. About 7 or 8 others in line that I gave defense to & ain’t even know their names.
#GottaBe10StepsAheadInTheseBMoreStreets
It really does……this is so sad
LOL
where are the rest of my CAPS?
lol I’m sorry I might be slow tonight from happy HR but the last part got me doing the scooby doo. lol I don’t care for that dude wish somebody would hunt his ass. I don’t mind people hunting for population control under designated times or to eat, but hunting big game like that for sport is cruel. especially when tigers and lions are becoming endangered.
why does it look like you have two logins with the same name and you are talking to yourself???????????
Google ‘Civil Forfeiture’
LLS…WHYYYY was I with my cousins to eat the other day & they RANDOMLY made me the TOPIC. So one kicks (with thee others in agreement) that they KNOW when they receive texts from me because of the CAPS, LOL. Proceed to say NO NAME is required to KNOW IT’S ME. I told them “Uhhhhh…a blog homie (which I sooooo nicely refer to those that I converse with) on the blog JUST POINTED THIS OUT.” These hoes talkin bout “you gotta be careful wit that ISH.” I asked “ohhh I’ll get popped or something?” I was told, “no but it can be offensive…AS IF YOU’RE YELLING FOR NO REASON.” WE LAUGHED SOOOO MUCH. So I told them (both TEXTING & BLOG COMMENTING), I’ll CTC= Control The Cappage, LLS. I can STILL get it CAPPIN (I’M JUST LAZZZYY…) but will CAUTIOUS using it.
Get a men’s or women’s wallet that blocks RFID readers. They are not that expensive. You can also block payment with your credit card company until the Supreme Court says they can do this. The proper process is to fine, go to court for fines resolution, jail and forfeiture when overdue fines are not paid. ERAD was intended for combating fraud not this. Look it up.
Found one at Marshall’s for $10 the other day
This is sickening. Oklahoma must be the most backward state in the union and these poor people can’t even get help from the law.
if they think you have drugs, they can call the dogs or they can lie and say they smelled something coming from the car or you had erratic behavior. if they really want to search you, they will find a loophole.
I would definitely block payment. They would probably throw the people in jail tho.
Heck if they really really run my cards they probably are gonna get about $10 max lol my money gone before it even hits the bank!!!!?????
Best to pay the fines to avoid jail. Frankly I’m surprised about all this. They pick states like Oklahoma or Arkansas to do this but would never get away with in in NY or MA.
How in the fck is this chyt lawful, they gone fck around and seize the wrong person, thats trying to take care of a family. Its gonna come to citizens vs government. They doing extremely to much. And this chyt aint gonna end well….sad day
They gonna become the law, watch
Since 911 Law Enforcement has been included in the sharing of technology normally reserved for Intelligence agencies like NSA, FBI, CIA , DOD All under the guise of catching terrorist and keeping America safe.
The problem is Local Law Enforcement have begun using these new privileges to target CITIZENS not TERRORIST.
Here are just a few things you all should be aware of regarding the national intelligence grid and invasion of your privacy since 911
[CELLE BRITE UFED ] Police Agencys have been carrying devices that can read and store every thing on you cell phone wirelessly and with out your knowledge. That includes all text, files, contacts, photos and emails.
[ALRP DEVICE] ….RED LIGHT cameras as well as POLICE CRUSIERS now incorporate license plate scanners that read Hundreds of Automotive Tags at once and search for WARRANTS, UNPAID TICKETS check your criminal background, and keep TRACK of your movements throught the city. Facial recognition software is also included or can be added.
[STINGRAY DEVICE ] …Wireless miniture cell phone towers and blue tooth sniffers installed by law enforment in public places like train stain stations, telephone poles, bridges, roof tops, even “Partner Retail Stores”… TRACK YOUR LOCATION AND CAN INTERCEPT AND EAVESDROP ON YOUR CELL CALLS.
[FACIAL RECONITION] …MILLIONS of Cameras and Police Cruisers US Wide already have and are being upgraded for facial recognition. Your face is stored and connected to your adress, place of employment, phone number, and criminal record. SOCIAL MEDIA, Facbook, Instagram also sells your photos to law enforcement in bulk [incidently this also includes other investigative data like what the majority of peope may be talking about in a certain area ……like a Certain Urban area ..this would be how they would find out about a new drug everybody is talking about or using and where it is most concentrated.]
[NATIONAL BIOMETRIC ID] …..Senate passed New law all states must adopt a National Id Card that includes a RFID Tracking Chip that stores your biometric data…(Iris, Fingerprint, Dna, Demographic data…..)
Feel protected now……..??
– Lurker
They better make sure they kill me because aint no way in hell that you are about siphon my hard earned money about of my bank account. The f- is wrong with them? If you feel like you need more money, then don’t be a cop. Ubishu
Some bs
I believe all this. Hollywood has been tell us this for decades
What the fugg??? Proable cause, illegal search & seizure. I understand what civil forfeiture is and it’s baffling to me that “there is consensus that abuses have happened but disagreement about their extent as well as whether the overall benefits to society are worth the cost of the instances of abuse.” SMDH! ?
You got it, Movies like Enemy of the State, explored NSA Technology long Before Snowden said it was true and Terminator Foretold the Age of Drones well in Advance. Technology from the movie Minority Report as far PRECRIME in being tested in Chicago.
– Lurker
But im confused..how are they obtaining these folks cards? Willingly? In court or being stopped , i neverpull out my credit cards so y does an officer even have access to these cards..im Lost
I have a theory that our creative subconscious already knows the future….thats why we keep seeing the future in movies.
PATRIOT ACT
Yeah folks we have become a police state and of course this will dispoportionately affect those who are brown but wait until it really starts affecting whites, then the laws will change.
If you feel like you are about to be violated by a police officer call 911 and get it on record, give the operator details and request backup….This way you have recorded evidence.
Understood. In the Patriot Act Title 1 (sections 102) by engaging in civil forfeiture they are grossly negligent or not in compliant in some of these incidents . I’m not debating that with you just merely making a statement. I’m just at a loss for words and wish I could do more to fight these injustices towards anyone by people in authority manipulating laws to swell deeper pockets.
WATT
Yew accusing meh of bring Sybil tew????
I was commenting back to the person commenting to me. Can’t see their font?
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Pregnant Rose font! Gotta love it! ?
Or as Granny told the man (cell foam ticket)
“Are you gonna write the ticket or what?! I have somewhere to be young man”
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I see the future and past in my dreams. I always have deja vu.
I still wanting for them to quit lying about aliens being science fiction. You can’t tell me that the Egyptians and Mayans built those pyramids all by themselves.
I agree , your correct, its all abuse of Power. The Act gave them to much wide Reaching Authority, and plenty of room for abuse.
A good example is the Militarization of local Law Enforcement , with tanks and military weaponry, and military uniforms.
Another really good example is being Charged with” Terroristic Threats”……for an argument over the phone with signifigant other …these expanded powers to go after terrorism were not ment these type of domestic arguments.
– Lurker
This is an unlawful civil rights violation. This department is committing theft. So-called officers of the law need not think they’re exempt from being prosecuted for violations under the law, because they are. That’s not how a proper seizure is conducted.
Anyone who has been a victim of any law enforcement agency improperly seizing funds from their bank accounts needs to report the violation(s) to their bank. If the bank refuses to take action, contact the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. Also, the District Attorney’s office needs to be advised of what’s transpiring.
I eagerly anticipate a class action lawsuit being filed against this agency. If I only had a JD…
Huh! Even Cops got Game! They’ll be mad as hell at me because once they get through scanning that Rush card ain’t sh it on their. Lol Never carry major cards I’m going TO always look broke after reading this
So very true. What do we do….
“Pick battles big enough to matter, small enough to win.” – Jonathan Kozol
I’m going to look for your responses going forward. Thank you for engaging me in discussion.
Deja Vu …..Remember in the Movie the Matrix…..When Neo saw the Black Cat Twice….Morpheus said it was a Glitch in the Matrix….a Sign
Speaking of Dreams…..some people believe Dreams are Doors……..
into a Parallel Universe…we just dont have the knowledge of what to do once we pass through those Doors….
Some Native Indian Tribes believe that ….and experimented with becoming a Dream Master…..
The Movie Inception is a Facinating Movie about Dreams…If you havent seen it…..
I heard of Theory like the Ancient Astronaut ….its all very Interesting
Dreams are doors, I have this one dream every 7 yrs since I was a in middle school, I am 29.
Me too! Your Intelligence and comments are great, thought provoking, and very engaging.
It’s very arrogant, in my opinion, that we, human beings, are only life/intelligent life in the world. It doesn’t add up when see how the accent who didn’t have the advance tools and tech that we have today and see how they build monuments that directly line up with the sun and spacing that was perfect. They had help.
lol They stupid for allowing police to scan their cards lol.. They give me the bill and I send them a check lmao
Inception (2010)
I’ll tell you a riddle. You’re waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don’t know for sure. But it doesn’t matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you?
You keep telling yourself what you know. But what do you believe? What do you feel?
If u swipe your card during a traffic stop u are a dumb azz lmfaooooo I dont care what type of ticket it is you have to have a court date first
You notice they didn’t have the foodstamp cards on there. They can’t touch those I guess.
This that büllshit!! Hell fück no.
There is well known retailer that has started to insist every customer provide photo ID with credit card purchases. I’ve witnessed customers white, black, etc. They claim this is to protect customers from identity theft. Are they doing this to collect information?
This is devastating. This has to be illegal!
OMG!
We no longer live in “AMERICA”.
Jesus! This is scary.
That is exactly what they are saying!
“No Black person could afford ________________ OR have this type of cash, from an honest living.”
New from of racial profiling. “The New Jim Crow”
Like I always said, “No one is going in MY account but Me and if anyone else tries to then you are stealing”. My bank only allow me to get money and you have to be authorized to go in someone’s account. I
I don’t believe this story. It doesn’t make sense. You can’t go in someone’s account unless you have authorization unless you are the IRS.
Aldi’s are now in the process to receiving credit cards.
It’s already in a city near you this goes on just about anywhere & anytime!
Wow and I was pisses my personal and business eBay accounts got restricted because of association with some account I never heard of. I thought that was bad. This is thievery
I’m not sure. I remember him being in a parking lot? Maybe at an apartment complex? They kept asking him to roll down the window and he kept showing them a small
small of paper that said he didn’t have to…and he didn’t.
Total bullshyt. This should be illegal but with corporations having the gov’t in their pockets probably wont change. Leave the cards at home.
Don’t be naive…if the govt goes after it, the banks will comply. You have no rights nowadays.
We need Elizabeth Warren! Bernie is a turd who’s ego has gone into hyperdrive.
The banks are in on it if the cops can drain your entire bank account. Normally there is a set limit for daily withdrawals.
well it’s about time, Lol!
so im’a have to basically go off the grid, huh? dis tew murch! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/adf60a6e2371eb61ed06e11e80488e695ce1b05aba500eece1116c5034cde3bf.gif
Rofl! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e86501847072dcba783eea0bbb2c002d3ed3d888581b08556155899f7897582f.gif
Amen. Leave the cards at home as with Black folks the cops will make up a reason and you’ll spend thousands and hours trying to get it back
They do that for returns. Someone steals a card, buys a lot of stuff, and then returns it for cash.
Bernie?!!
Bernie?!!
LOL……Girl that’s to funny…..
We just got Aldi out here on the west coast…I have to check them out and make sure I have some $$$$ on me.
yeah, and make sure you have some change or you can’t use the shopping carts, Lol!
I work too hard for mine to just have somebody, including the po-po, just walk up and take it. no ma’am!
DAYUM its like we in North Korea with Kim Jong un around this bitc/..
Its something how the western world wants to belittle the east but we moving toward acting like them.
These cops aint trying this shît n atl….one of these lil bankhead niqqas will knock they shît off!! This happen to my bro tho n douglasville, ga he was riding with 10k they pulled him ova for a broken tail light they had a right to search him bc he’s a convicted felon so they took the $$ until he cud show w-2’s which he did and they gave the $$ that week. The key to this bullshît is to have at least 2-3 accts i have $$ spreaded all ova atlanta so ill politey slide they ass the card with only $200 on it lol ?
Real. Id be on my way to jail. You not scanning my cards. Thats why you have to learn the law then the system and stand up for yourself within means because they can be some dirty bastards.
Stop training Cops too be criminals and hustlers.
Yes, and if Marriott hotels don’t STOP CALLING ME! I didn’t enter a contest! Anyway, how did you get my work cell number when it’s for internal use ONLY?! Ugh. I don’t stay at that place (I fear bedbugs). I think career sites are to blame too. Guess whom is skimming your resume? Marriott is! LoL
Not when THEY make the laws
Make money. How much you got in your bank account? They might seize it on some flimsy pretext or another.
it’s my understanding (and I may be wrong as I’m no lawyer) that they have to have probable cause to get a warrant to search your things and that warrant has to be confirmed by a judge and you have a right to view said warrant. if they begin searching beforehand, then the “evidence” would be thrown out due to illegal seizure… so even if they called the dogs, the dogs would have to find something and then that would be probable cause for a warrant right? lol although cops lie so I guess they could just do that which im sure they do smh.
Crooks…call the Feds on em
Agreed!
government is the biggest gangsters in the country. Not safe anywhere.