Actress, wife and mom Jada Pinkett-Smith had some beautiful words to say about black women in her recent sit down interview with ESSENCE magazine. Jada, who graces the cover of the July 2010 issue, said:

“Lay your eyes on the beauty of black women! That’s the statement. The black woman is very spiritual. She is the ultimate mother, the ultimate of everything. We connect to all things. Lay your eyes on that.”

On her flaws:

“We, as women, have to love ourselves. Whatever you look like, you better be comfortable with it. … All my life black men have told me how flawed I am. People may look at that picture and not necessarily be able to identify my woes about my own body, but I have them. It’s just that I’ve gotten to the point where I’m like, ‘This is me’ and I embrace that. I’m getting older. I’ve got wrinkles in my face that I didn’t before, but it’s my face!”

On self-love and confidence:

Do you love what you see when you look in the mirror? Because I bet that if you love it authentically, everybody else around you will. They won’t even have a chance to see anything else, because you will have a shield of confidence around you. That is a powerful gift that God gives us that most of us rarely use.”

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  • FreeToSpeakUp

    :yawn: I’m a black woman, but why all the black woman stuff ALL the time? Why not woman as a whole? Why constantly segregate women? Isn’t she biracial?

  • Redeemed777

    Great Statement for beautiful black women!

    But Jada, why are yall following scientology??? You were created in the Almighty God’s image.

    scientology has no image.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    :claps: Go Jada!!!! ..nice encouraging words…

  • MzNisha2u

    :preach: Jada!!!

  • Soulstar81

    love the pics…

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    Shut up Jada Pinkett Smith.

  • FloridaChick813

    She is BEAU-TI-FUL :yes:

  • nicolejordan81

    @ Redeemed777–She clearly references God in her commentary……Scientologists (if not mistaken) don’t believe in God!

  • Redeemed777

    Jews & Gentiles

    Black Women & White Women

    Ying & Yang

    Cain & Abel

    Jacob & Esau

    Black Men & White Men

    Good & Evil

    Christ & Anti-Christ

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    Very encouraging words. Black women need to hear this. White women are encouraged every day ALL DAY just by the images plastered ALL over the tv, internet, and mags — and by the white AND BLACK men who so dearly love the white woman.

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    and I’M not a Jada fan. Just a fan of US.

  • mirsmommy

    Those were very encouraging words. :yes:

    😆 @ Man. Why she gotta shut up? 😆

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Smokie says:

    Very encouraging words. Black women need to hear this. White women are encouraged every day ALL DAY just by the images plastered ALL over the tv, internet, and mags — and by the white AND BLACK men who so dearly love the white woman.

    —————————————————————-

    We have that same amount of support too. This is just getting redundant.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    I think Scientologist do believe in God … :shrugs: but it is more cult like..

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    We have our own magazine, we’ve made mainstream, we have our own entertainment networks, we have a black president. What will it take to make black women happy? It just seems that everything is never good enough.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    Why she gotta shut up?
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    She always complain and bytchin and groanin bout somethin. With her hard face azz.

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    OMG IS THERE NO END TO THIS FANATICAL BULL SHYT!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ Sandra

    :rofl: @ related post No. 5

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Redeemed777 says:

    Jews & Gentiles

    Black Women & White Women

    Ying & Yang

    Cain & Abel

    Jacob & Esau

    Black Men & White Men

    Good & Evil

    Christ & Anti-Christ
    _________________________________________-

    So you are saying white people evil…Just asking I am confused…

    To my knowledge God created all man in his image..I mean we all get sick,die and bleed red…Geesh….

  • bigtyme

    my moms called this years ago when they started hanging out w/ tom cruise. as i said in the otehr post, after that oprah interview i was convinced that they were scientologist. i think they are good people though. seem to be raising their kids to give back and aren’t forgetting where they come from

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Man, I just don’t care™ says:

    Why she gotta shut up?
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    She always complain and bytchin and groanin bout somethin. With her hard face azz.

    ——————————-

    I can’t…… :rofl: :rofl:

  • bigtyme

    if you look up that school they run, it says it is a scientology school.

  • Redeemed777

    @nicolejordan81

    “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”

    MATTHEW 7:21

  • LadyLew

    She looks nice!

  • Al-Ameera

    Love Jada.

  • Redeemed777

    @MISSY

    I was just brainstorming. LoL

  • ELove

    @Smokie
    THOSE Aren’t BLACK MEN… I DON’T KNOW any BLACK MEN that ADORE YT Females-Women (Being So Real Here…)

    But there are PLENTY of Black MALES who Mental Capabilities-n-Strengths aren’t NOWHERE NEAR Those of Black MEN (Especially REAL BLACK MEN…) 😉

  • Mamacita

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Smokie says:

    Very encouraging words. Black women need to hear this. White women are encouraged every day ALL DAY just by the images plastered ALL over the tv, internet, and mags — and by the white AND BLACK men who so dearly love the white woman.

    —————————————————————-

    We have that same amount of support too. This is just getting redundant.

    ______________________________________________________

    Same support where? In the songs that call black women bishes, whores, sluts, etc.? The videos that glorify half naked women with ginormous azzes? The news specials trying to explain why black women can’t find a man?

    Where is this support because I don’t see it…

  • FloridaChick813

    :whistle:

  • aqtpie

    I :heart: her statements!!! :cosign: with Smokie!!!!

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    Here we go with this bible totin scripture quotin nonsense!
    Let a post come up about a white family adoptin black kids and all that scripture quotin goes out the window because your ass turns straight hypocritical!
    This is not Bible Buddies of America or Fanatics R Us!
    Girl miss us with all that foolishness!

  • mirsmommy

    Man, I just don’t care™ says:

    Why she gotta shut up?
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    She always complain and bytchin and groanin bout somethin. With her hard face azz.

    ______________________________________________________

    :rofl:

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Like my dude Pac said “If it doesn’t apply to you why get mad”…

    When someone does a song and use bish,slut,whore they are degrading women as a whole…but hey w/e……I don’t let that define me…

    So why is it okay for a female rapper to talk about how sexual she is but a dude can’t talk about it…Why can a woman call herself a freak/Bish/Slut/Whore but when a dude calls her it he is a douche/degrading women….DOUBLE STANDARD..

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Mamacita says:

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Smokie says:

    Very encouraging words. Black women need to hear this. White women are encouraged every day ALL DAY just by the images plastered ALL over the tv, internet, and mags — and by the white AND BLACK men who so dearly love the white woman.

    —————————————————————-

    We have that same amount of support too. This is just getting redundant.

    ______________________________________________________

    Same support where? In the songs that call black women bishes, whores, sluts, etc.? The videos that glorify half naked women with ginormous azzes? The news specials trying to explain why black women can’t find a man?

    Where is this support because I don’t see it…

    —————————————————-
    :violin: We have music that shows how much we are adored. If you chose to listen to hip hop and watch their video’s that pertain to what you are referring to is your business. WE continue to beat ourselves up, WE write and complain about being single, and bash black men instead of looking at yourself first and wondering what you can put up to the plate.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    missy says:

    Like my dude Pac said “If it doesn’t apply to you why get mad”…

    When someone does a song and use bish,slut,whore they are degrading women as a whole…but hey w/e……I don’t let that define me…

    So why is it okay for a female rapper to talk about how sexual she is but a dude can’t talk about it…Why can a woman call herself a freak/Bish/Slut/Whore but when a dude calls her it he is a douche/degrading women….DOUBLE STANDARD..

    ————————–

    :preach:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    I agree with you whole-heartedly and I was just about to post that I’m now bored of Jada…

  • SangriaSugar

    Good afternoon fam

    Hey Brown **waves**

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Oh so it is okay for men to say white girls are submissive and good at becky but yet they only degrade black women…Ummm okay.. :rolleyes:

    Every group of women gets degraded why are we letting people who don’t know you define you..Look in a mirror and if they are talking about you find some self worth…if not keep it moving and don’t listen to their music..RESPECT YOURSELF AND MOST PEOPLE WILL RESPECT YOU

  • VIBABY

    We get the same support? Oh I forgot, we have a black president and BET. Lawd JEEZUS I’z so happy now….

    Jada is the bomb.

  • Mamacita

    @missy It’s not ok for female rappers to do it either. I never understood why they call themselves “bad bi*ches”. Let someone else call them a bish and they’ll be ready to fight!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    First of All I am a black woman but when society and or media portrays a black woman negatively I for one does not take it personal one because I’m not like that black woman, two because the media is always reporting embellished stories and three because I know who I am!

  • kdillon

    Why doesnt Jada ever speak of her Scientology school for kids?
    Anyway, blah blah blah

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MISSY

    For the record, I don’t segregate black women when I talk about bytches and hoez! I’m color blind!

  • Silhouette

    :blink:

    Jada looks nice and wonderful words of wisdom for all.

  • Ms.kaylamomma

    GO Jada :danban: Love her!

  • Ebony

    @ Free2speak

    Please don’t pull an April “I’m latina” Rain :coffee:

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    I don’t really even need to say anymore. Black women aren’t looked up to or revered in America. You know it. I know it. It’s a dream to think otherwise.

    The definition of a MAN: an adult person who is male (as opposed to a woman

    Just because the MEN aren’t conscious/mature/responsible does not mean they aren’t black MEN. They are.

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    Hey SS!!! How you doin???

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Mamacita says:

    @missy It’s not ok for female rappers to do it either. I never understood why they call themselves “bad bi*ches”. Let someone else call them a bish and they’ll be ready to fight!

    ————————

    I’ve taken it as a compliment!

    @ VIBABY

    What will make YOU happy? People will ALWAYS have their opinions about another race, their traditions and so on. White people aren’t the ones saying we don’t love ourselves, they aren’t saying we can’t find a man, we beat ourselves up, how sucessful black women are single and disregard how far we have come along.

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    Man, I just don’t care™ says: Shut up Jada Pinkett Smith.
    __________________________________________________________________
    WHY shut up JADA? Please explain…because I really don’t want to SNAP. Are you saying SHUT UP to the statement? Help me my E-brother? help me understand your world

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Ebony says:

    @ Free2speak

    Please don’t pull an April “I’m latina” Rain
    —————————–

    Nah Ebony, I am a black woman.

  • kdillon

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    We have our own magazine, we’ve made mainstream, we have our own entertainment networks, we have a black president. What will it take to make black women happy? It just seems that everything is never good enough.
    ———————————————————————-
    You said it best “our own magazine” not magazines but magazine meaning one. BET is hardly a tool to build self esteem or see black in a great light, and TVone is not in all areas like mainstream networks. Yes, we have a black male president… Nothing is never good enough because us black women know how we are treated in the eyes of media, which shapes the minds of others. Our own black men degrade us to the world and our respect level from other races are at a decline. I was watching Last Comic Standing last night and I noticed all the black comedians were making ghetto jokes about black women, and I was uncomfortable at the room full of whites laughing. You never hear a white comedian talk about white women like black comedians do. We are treated differently by everyone!

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    On the cool, Jada said some words that a lot of black women do need to hear. I’ve been loved and adored all of my life, but I have friends and relatives who NEED to hear this. I’m glad she put it out there. And she said it in a black woman’s magazine. I don’t see the problem. AT ALL.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Smokie says:

    I don’t really even need to say anymore. Black women aren’t looked up to or revered in America.
    —————————————

    Who isn’t looking up to them? I looked up to the black women that raised me? Why are you looking up to people outside of your social realm?

  • http://www.facebook.com/evieannie speaknoevil

    How can anyone hate on Jada…I love her!!!!

  • BROWNSUGAPOET

    SS what’s ur last name on the global

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    :cheer1: Team Jada! :cheer1:

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    White/Black/Latino/Asian etc. comedians they all degrade women(even men) from their race they use the stereotype and use it for laughs….is it right NO but it happens.

    :sigh:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    You know what happens when you start comparing yourself to others you will never be satisfied-I know how far blacks have come imo to many ppl are not as hardworking as the men who raised us back in the day imo ppl are spoiled in thinking they are entitled to receive but does not want work toward success imo ppl are too consumed with videos, social networks, electronic games to think outside the box of what has now become the norm-

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    kdillon says:

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    We have our own magazine, we’ve made mainstream, we have our own entertainment networks, we have a black president. What will it take to make black women happy? It just seems that everything is never good enough.
    ———————————————————————-
    You said it best “our own magazine” not magazines but magazine meaning one. BET is hardly a tool to build self esteem or see black in a great light, and TVone is not in all areas like mainstream networks. Yes, we have a black male president… Nothing is never good enough because us black women know how we are treated in the eyes of media, which shapes the minds of others. Our own black men degrade us to the world and our respect level from other races are at a decline. I was watching Last Comic Standing last night and I noticed all the black comedians were making ghetto jokes about black women, and I was uncomfortable at the room full of whites laughing. You never hear a white comedian talk about white women like black comedians do. We are treated differently by everyone!

    ——————————-

    We have JET, Essence, Sister 2 Sister, Black Enterprise…I mean the list goes on. For any magaZINES or media outlets to be sucessful WE have to support them. How else will they grow? A flower doesn’t bloom without water. We joke about white people too, calling them trailer trash, Billy/Becky and we laugh in FRONT of them TOO but that’s ok?

  • ELove

    @Smokie (Comment #47)
    I’m ASSuming that definition part was directed at me… MY Definition of a MAN is far different THAN THE ONE you just posted & I’m NOT trying to change YOUR Opinion and/or Definition ONE BIT (Real…)

    But IMO there is a VERY Distinct difference between A MALE & A MAN 😉

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    Sidebar: If you are a Black Women and found anything wrong with Jada’s statements, please ask Yahweh (God) to teach you how to love yourself.

  • Ebony

    @ Free2speakup

    :blink: mmmkay thanks for clearing that up :coffee:

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @GGOUCH
    “WHY shut up JADA? Please explain…because I really don’t want to SNAP. Are you saying SHUT UP to the statement? Help me my E-brother? help me understand your world”
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Aren’t you TIRED of Jada Pinkett Smith???? Why does she think she is capable of giving advice to anyone about anything??????

    She’s an “actress” that can’t act!!!

    Let her tell it, she’s a musical expert, acting expert, relationship expert, sex expert, work out expert, black woman expert, Tupac expert, Religion expert, Will Smith expert, fashion expert,…

    As for this interview, I have never met ONE black woman that didn’t find themselves to be the chit so why is she giving a “pep talk” in this interview?
    :shrugs:

  • Al-Ameera

    Smokie says:

    I don’t really even need to say anymore. Black women aren’t looked up to or revered in America. You know it. I know it. It’s a dream to think otherwise.

    *************************
    Exactly. And to say if it doesn’t pertain to you why do you let it affect you is not realistic. It’s like rain, no, it is not meant to get only YOU wet personally, but, everyone outside is hit by it. Disrespect of the black woman in America is everywhere and I say black woman in America cuz no other culture or place does it the way it is done here.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    ELove says:

    @Smokie (Comment #47)
    I’m ASSuming that definition part was directed at me… MY Definition of a MAN is far different THAN THE ONE you just posted & I’m NOT trying to change YOUR Opinion and/or Definition ONE BIT (Real…)

    But IMO there is a VERY Distinct difference between A MALE & A MAN
    ——————————-

    :cosign:

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    Man, I just don’t care™ says:

    @GGOUCH
    “WHY shut up JADA? Please explain…because I really don’t want to SNAP. Are you saying SHUT UP to the statement? Help me my E-brother? help me understand your world”
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Aren’t you TIRED of Jada Pinkett Smith???? Why does she think she is capable of giving advice to anyone about anything??????

    She’s an “actress” that can’t act!!!

    Let her tell it, she’s a musical expert, acting expert, relationship expert, sex expert, work out expert, black woman expert, Tupac expert, Religion expert, Will Smith expert, fashion expert,…

    As for this interview, I have never met ONE black woman that didn’t find themselves to be the chit so why is she giving a “pep talk” in this interview?

    _____________________________________________________________

    🙂 Okay…I was just making sure it wasn’t for “OTHER” reasons!!

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    All Jada did was encourage black women to love themselves as they are. Not every black woman was raised by parents who instilled this. Those who are against Jada’s words…you mean to tell me that you don’t know any black women who can’t leave the house without weave/wig and full make up? You mean to tell me that you don’t know any black women who don’t like their skin tone or facial features? For real? Where is this black mecca exactly? .

  • lakercrazy

    love love jada she is talented and beutiful to me….i think women in general should take her advise dont matter the race im hispanic and i love what she was talking about….go team jada :cheer:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    attorneymom says:

    Sidebar: If you are a Black Women and found anything wrong with Jada’s statements, please ask Yahweh (God) to teach you how to love yourself.
    —————————-

    I pray to GOD for ALL my answers. I don’t depend on man. Jada can’t tell me JACK!

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    I live in a predominately black nation…So my views on life are different…

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @G GOUCH
    “Okay…I was just making sure it wasn’t for “OTHER” reasons!!”
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    Hell, it might be for “other” reasons too. I couldn’t list everything in one post…

  • http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

    Love these pictures of jada :thumbsup:

  • Mamacita

    All i’m saying is that the statements she made are good and uplifting. They were encouraging so why can’t these things be expressed. Black is beautiful just like every other race and if that isn’t a point to be reiterated then I don’t know what is :shrug: There are some women out there that don’t feel they are beautiful and if these words encourage them then the words have done their job. If you already know you’re beautiful and don’t need her telling you then good for you. Nothing to get all worked up about…Sheesh!

  • Val

    Work it Jada- looking fabulous :claps

  • Val

    :claps

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Smokie says:

    All Jada did was encourage black women to love themselves as they are. Not every black woman was raised by parents who instilled this. Those who are against Jada’s words…you mean to tell me that you don’t know any black women who can’t leave the house without weave/wig and full make up? You mean to tell me that you don’t know any black women who don’t like their skin tone or facial features? For real? Where is this black mecca exactly? .

    ————————-

    That’s just called having low self esteem. It has nothing to do with what color you are. That person cares too much what people think of them. And as soon as I walk out not being able to make it to the salon, one of my people will be calling me “ghetto” and saying how I look a “HAM” not knowing my circumstance

  • lakercrazy

    no matter what race most women have insecurities and jada is just giving advice on all types of beuty

  • Val

    :claps: ( geesh)

  • http://www.inkblock.webs.com iscream

    I guess some of yall grew up in a different America then I have. :shrugs:

    Before last week (Ice cube new show & not that dumb Tyler Perry mess) please, please tell me how blacks are represented on TV? I don’t watch EBT so I don’t count them. All the black shows were forced to one network on one night (Friday, as if) and was STILL Pulled off the air.

    And so what if Jada is a Scientilogist (sp) not everyone is a Christian.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Jada is a Tupac expert…. :rofl:

    I have no problem with Jada’s comments I liked what she said I was talking about it from a musical point of view…

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    It’s still all redundant, overdone………..

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    Mamacita says:

    All i’m saying is that the statements she made are good and uplifting. They were encouraging so why can’t these things be expressed. Black is beautiful just like every other race and if that isn’t a point to be reiterated then I don’t know what is There are some women out there that don’t feel they are beautiful and if these words encourage them then the words have done their job. If you already know you’re beautiful and don’t need her telling you then good for you. Nothing to get all worked up about…Sheesh!
    ______

    Agree 100%

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    I think some ppl on here are under the wrong impression no one is saying that we don’t agree with what Jada is saying I think at least for me I’m tired of her trying to channel her inner Maya Angelou and for real why cant she just say all woman need to love themselves-especially nowadays!

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    Smokie says:

    I don’t really even need to say anymore. Black women aren’t looked up to or revered in America. You know it. I know it. It’s a dream to think otherwise.
    ____________________________________________________________
    :cosign: Then people want to call us angry cause we have to build our damn pedestals to stand upon….cause we …cause our black men are too busy putting their white chicks or their ambiguously racial looking women on pedestals based solely on their appearances and then hide behind the hype of “They’re more submissive” “They don’t fuss”……”They don’t do this and they don’t do that. And this from our men who were more likely than not raised by a single mother..who had no time to be submissive to anyone other than the God himself.

  • Silhouette

    Someone’s sleeping, Lord, kumbaya
    Someone’s sleeping, Lord, kumbaya
    Someone’s sleeping, Lord, kumbaya
    Oh Lord, kumbaya
    Oh Lord, kumbaya
    *slowly backs out of post*

  • Daisy

    Team Jada :cheer:

    My Black is beautiful :danban:

  • Champagne Wishes & Caviar Dreams

    @ lakercrazy , I love the gravatar !!!!!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    iscream says:

    I guess some of yall grew up in a different America then I have.

    Before last week (Ice cube new show & not that dumb Tyler Perry mess) please, please tell me how blacks are represented on TV? I don’t watch EBT so I don’t count them. All the black shows were forced to one network on one night (Friday, as if) and was STILL Pulled off the air.

    And so what if Jada is a Scientilogist (sp) not everyone is a Christian
    ———————————

    The Jefferson’s were a successful black family with a maid and all, but how quickly to we forget that. we like beating ourselves up and focusing on the negative

  • cheeks8683

    At least she has a positive message…we got fools like slim thug running his ignant mouth and ish!!!

  • Soulstar81

    @ cheeks8683 says:

    At least she has a positive message…we got fools like slim thug running his ignant mouth and ish!!!

    :cosign:

  • kdillon

    Someone who refers to themself as Slim Thug should not even be allowed to speak…. but this is how alot of black men feel and especially the celeb types.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Choco says:

    I think some ppl on here are under the wrong impression no one is saying that we don’t agree with what Jada is saying I think at least for me I’m tired of her trying to channel her inner Maya Angelou and for real why cant she just say all woman need to love themselves-especially nowadays!

    ———-

    Thank Q

  • SangriaSugar

    James @Brown…if you go to malmstrom I’m the first one

  • aqtpie

    I have friends of all races. I am black, so I can’t really speak from experience the struggles, family unity, hardships, advantages etc… of other races. Maybe that’s why she spoke on black women. I do notice that she also said, “we as women”, with no mention of race. Again great statements!!! IMO!

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    **I’m really going to have find out about this now infamous Slim Thugg interview…**

  • Mamacita

    Choco says:

    I think some ppl on here are under the wrong impression no one is saying that we don’t agree with what Jada is saying I think at least for me I’m tired of her trying to channel her inner Maya Angelou and for real why cant she just say all woman need to love themselves-especially nowadays!

    ___________________________________________________________-

    Uhhhhhhhh it’s ESSENCE…who reads Essence? Black people! It’s a magazine geared towards BLACK PEOPLE. Why would she talk about white/latino/indian people? She’s speaking to the people who are ACTUALLY GOING TO READ THE MAGAZINE.

  • lakercrazy

    @champagen thanks my lil girl 2MONTHS at the time it always made me smile..

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    The Jefferson’s were a successful black family with a maid and all, but how quickly to we forget that. we like beating ourselves up and focusing on the negative.

    ____

    *DEAD* that we have to go aaaall the way back to the Jefferson’s for a successful black family on TV. LOL How about the Cosby’s?

    For the record, I, too, think that Jada “knows” too much, but hey, the sista had some uplifting words and I love it.

  • KrayZKat

    I’m sitting here wondering how anyone can take Jada’s statement and turn it into something negative. Black women are continuously maligned, not only from without, but from within, i.e. Slim Thugs ignorant rant. All women don’t get talked down to in the media like black women. What’s wrong with Jada, a black woman, singling out black women?

  • cheeks8683

    I’m just upset he felt the need to express his train of thought, or lack thereof on a public platform…Nobody is checking for him anymore and he looks like a dragon but to have a black man putting black women down as awhole was just disrespectful. He disrespected his mother, sisters if he has any, aunts, cousins etc…Just because he dated or messed with some chicken-heads does not mean he needs to group us all together…shooot I pay my credit card off everytime I get a bill and only use it in the case of an emergency lol! #thatisall

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Mamacita says:

    Choco says:

    I think some ppl on here are under the wrong impression no one is saying that we don’t agree with what Jada is saying I think at least for me I’m tired of her trying to channel her inner Maya Angelou and for real why cant she just say all woman need to love themselves-especially nowadays!

    ___________________________________________________________-

    Uhhhhhhhh it’s ESSENCE…who reads Essence? Black people! It’s a magazine geared towards BLACK PEOPLE. Why would she talk about white/latino/indian people? She’s speaking to the people who are ACTUALLY GOING TO READ THE MAGAZINE.

    ——————————————————-

    She could’ve spoken about women in general. Being black has nothing to do with loving yourself. You should love yourself PERIOD! I’m black and read Mademoiselle, Cosmopolitan, Elle…And we’ve (blacks) hit their cover but the magazine is “geared” towards white people. C’mon now.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Smokie says:

    The Jefferson’s were a successful black family with a maid and all, but how quickly to we forget that. we like beating ourselves up and focusing on the negative.

    ____

    *DEAD* that we have to go aaaall the way back to the Jefferson’s for a successful black family on TV. LOL How about the Cosby’s?

    For the record, I, too, think that Jada “knows” too much, but hey, the sista had some uplifting words and I love it.

    —————————————–

    I took it back to the Jefferson’s to show you HOW far back we had already been perceived as successful but it’s disregarded.

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    There are young brown girls today….walking around with BLUE contacts, blond weave…because it has been instilled in them that this represents acceptance on all levels.

    They are being told that their afrodisiacted looks are not acceptable. That their short and/or natural hair is a bad thing…so cover it with something more EURPEON.

    This is reinerated amongst the males in their families as thier BROTHERS, UNCLES, and DADDY’s bring becky over for dinner. And you get mad when we tell you FLUCK you…MY BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL MUTHA FLUCKER!!! You want to tell us WE cause too much DRAMA when we tell you…..HELL NO!! I am not going to let you treat me anykind of way and still have dinner on the table by 6pm.

    What’s funny: When a black man is struggling, not on his game and we stick by him: We are his sister..his strong sister and some may even utter QUEEN. We hold you down…until…you sign that NBA contract and then you decide…we’re too much to handle!!!

    BLaCK women are soldiers!!…. and yes the call has to be sounded at every opportunity..WE HAVE keep sounding the alarm until…it is heard and implemented.

  • meanNsurly

    Everyone is talking about Slim Thug……what did he say?

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    KrayZKat says:

    I’m sitting here wondering how anyone can take Jada’s statement and turn it into something negative. Black women are continuously maligned, not only from without, but from within, i.e. Slim Thugs ignorant rant. All women don’t get talked down to in the media like black women. What’s wrong with Jada, a black woman, singling out black women?

    ———————————————–

    Are you serious, what color is Perez Hilton? And who does he bash? GTHOH!!

  • Mamacita

    Man, I just don’t care™ says:

    **I’m really going to have find out about this now infamous Slim Thugg interview…**

    _______________________________________

    Hold up now *scrolls down other post*…didn’t you say “I won’t be looking up the entire interview either because quite frankly, I’m just too cool and important to do chit like that.”

    :rofl: I :heart: you

    watch out now…

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Honestly Slim Thug’s comments didn’t do anything to me I laughed at his stupid arse why:…..

    1. He was basically saying black women are strong minded women who don’t take BS…

    2.He is saying white women are submissive(i know there a black girls who are submissive also) But hey only white girls are like that according to him…

    3. He is talking bad about his mother,aunt, cousins,grandma and every black women in his family…if they didn’t tell him off then he doesn’t know black women like he thinks….

    But why are people getting bigger butts,lips,and Over dosing on tanning…To look more black… :yes:

  • http://www.inkblock.webs.com iscream

    The Jeffersons o-O

    See how deep you had to go to get that? Lmao @ the Jeffersons I meant a recent show. Hell the Cosby’s came after that, A different world came after that. I’m talking now, today in America where are we on your local stations, on your cable stations? And not just a black face in a sea of whites I mean a black cast. Even Latin people have their own channel. Heck even Traffic & the Weather have their own channel.

  • KrayZKat

    kdillon says:

    Someone who refers to themself as Slim Thug should not even be allowed to speak…. but this is how alot of black men feel and especially the celeb types.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The sad part is, we will continue to support them. I’ve read comments from sisters cosigning his nonsense. What does that tell us about their mindset?

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MAMA CITA
    “**I’m really going to have find out about this now infamous Slim Thugg interview…**

    _______________________________________

    Hold up now *scrolls down other post*…didn’t you say “I won’t be looking up the entire interview either because quite frankly, I’m just too cool and important to do chit like that.”

    :rofl: I :heart: you

    watch out now…
    _________________________________________________________________________________

    I was hoping someone less cool and important than me would go and post the interview (or a link).
    :coffee:

  • cheeks8683

    @ ggouch girl u betta preach!

  • http://twitter.com/sherita78 mizzdallas

    can someone please post slim thug interview plz n thank u!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ GGouch

    You my girl, but I am going to have to disagree. I relax my hair because it’s hard to manage, ot because some white person told me otherwise. I’ve worn contacts to experiment with different colors to see what I would look like as well as hair color. There are black people with different color eyes naturally. It has nothing to do with the “white man/woman” We give them too much credit. We say they smell like wet dogs, just as they have their own opinions about us but we get all defensive about. Always in the kitchen but can’t take the heat…Ya feel me?

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MEAN N SURLY
    “Everyone is talking about Slim Thug……what did he say?”
    _________________________________________________________________________________

    go check it out and report back to those that are unfamiliar dawg.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    All I am saying is that..Low self esteem comes in all races…..

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Mamacita
    Your point is moot before she is black Jada is a female so again I stand behind my point WOMEN should love themselves when I give advice to my daughter I don’t start off with black women or spanish woman-sistahood imo is colorless GOOD DAY ESSENCE STAN!
    @Missy
    I agree I laughed at SLIM what he says don’t apply to me and he was so ebonic with it sooo NO SLIM you gets none! He sounded bitter as h3ll anyway

  • KrayZKat

    @FreeToSpeakUp – That’s one person. Keep going. :coffee:

    In the last year, the media has go in on sisters, i.e. we have HIV/AIDS, herpes, we are single and no black man wants us, we are this, we are that. Now, you mentioned Perez Hilton. I don’t read Perez, and he’s one blogger so that’s what many of them do. So now, I ask you, name someone else, if you will.

  • lakercrazy

    ok now i have to know what slim said…..can someone let us who dont know in on it? :waiting:

  • meanNsurly

    Thx for the quickie Missy. I haven’t heard from Slim Thug since Check up on it by Bey!

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    @Free2speak- I have heard people say white people smell RAW…Glory… I told them that is not right you can’t judge all people…based off of one person..But I did chuckle “father forgive me”

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    To add onto that why are there so many white females wearing cornroes and dressing gangsta ppl are so friggin one-sided and boxed in…

  • cheeks8683

    @ missy…I approve of your list! Loves it! Can we get a Slim thug hit songs list going, and it has to be more than 3 songs and he could not have been a featured artist on the song (ie the songs he did with beyonce and qwen steffani) he has to be the main headliner…Don’t worry, I’ll wait lol!

  • aqtpie

    Yes blacks have a few things now such as magazines, tv shows, media outlets, BET etc… but let’s not forget the REAL reason why we had to form our own!!!!

  • KrayZKat

    @Coco – If I may interject. Of course women should love themselves. We should all love ourselves, but she specifically mentioned black women probably because of the negative press. What is so wrong with that?

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    For the record, I never said it dodn’t like what she said, I said it’s redundant (in excess) and I (it’s my opinion) am tired of people whipping out the violin like we have evolved. IMO it’s our own self hate, never satisfied attitudes that make it seem like we haven’t gotten anywhere.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    @Mean- That isn’t what he said…I will post some of what he said…

    Most single Black women feel like they don’t want to settle for less. Their standards are too high right now. They have to understand that successful Black men are kind of extinct. We’re important. It’s hard to find us so Black women have to bow down and let it be known that they gotta start working hard; they gotta start cooking and being down for they man more. They can’t just be running around with their head up in the air and passing all of us.

    I have a brother that dates a White woman and he always be fucking with me about it saying, “Y’all gotta go through all that shit [but] my White woman is fine. She don’t give me no problems, she do whatever I say and y’all gotta do all that arguing and fighting and worry about all this other sh**.”

    My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the shit that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that. She don’t be begging and I don’t gotta buy her all this crazy ass shit. And she’s a smart girl too. She graduated from Columbia [University] and I like that about her so it’s cool. I’ve dated girls that will buy a $3,000 bag and don’t know how to pay it off on their credit cards. They walk around in these Louis Vuittons and red bottoms but they’re riding around in raggedy cars, so it’s just getting your priorities right

    I got this from Crunk….

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @CHEEKS
    “Can we get a Slim thug hit songs list going, and it has to be more than 3 songs and he could not have been a featured artist on the song (ie the songs he did with beyonce and qwen steffani) he has to be the main headliner…Don’t worry, I’ll wait lol!”
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    I asked for the same thing with Jay Z and never got it!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    aqtpie says:

    Yes blacks have a few things now such as magazines, tv shows, media outlets, BET etc… but let’s not forget the REAL reason why we had to form our own!!!!

    ———————————-

    Why does it matter now WHY we had to form our own? We did it! Let’s not forget that “they” now accept us on thier networks. What do we need? A lifetime apology. Let’s move forward and continue to make history. Not saying forget about where we come from but let’s not roll around in the mud either.

  • Daisy

    I see some people are looking for attention today

    @Mizz check your twitter to see where to read what Slimm said. I was not bothered by what he said cause its been said over n over

  • KrayZKat

    Actually, blacks do not own BET or TV One, and if they did, they aren’t doing a good job at representing us.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Becuz once she starts alienating other races it’s still a subliminal form of discrimination there is nothing wrong with being any color but why do I need to mention color everytime I have a point to prove WTF is that all about I don’t live in a world where all I see are black ppl so naturally I’m more open and I’m damn sure not about to encourage more separatism…

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Smokie says:

    The Jefferson’s were a successful black family with a maid and all, but how quickly to we forget that. we like beating ourselves up and focusing on the negative.

    ____

    *DEAD* that we have to go aaaall the way back to the Jefferson’s for a successful black family on TV. LOL How about the Cosby’s?

    For the record, I, too, think that Jada “knows” too much, but hey, the sista had some uplifting words and I love it.

    —————————————–

    I took it back to the Jefferson’s to show you HOW far back we had already been perceived as successful but it’s disregarded.

    ____

    WOW – we had one successful black family in the Jefferson’s era. They had The Brady Bunch, Eight is Enough, The Partridge Family, Bob Newhart, The Waltons, Happy Days, etc. Heck, The Jetsons was even a successful white family! We’ve had the Jefferson’s, The Cosby’s, and All of Us.

  • Ace

    Doesn’t look like a conversation i want any part of so I’m just gonna go over and ask the people in the Kona if they need anything to drink…

    Jada looks good by the way.

  • FloridaChick813

    @ Daisy,

    I was lurking for you!!!!! The sweetie and I are looking for a island to cruise too for vacation. I figured I’d ask you. Any ideas?

  • meanNsurly

    I found this excerpt

    “Most single Black women feel like they don’t want to settle for less. Their standards are too high right now. They have to understand that successful Black men are kind of extinct.”

    “My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the shit that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that. She don’t be begging and I don’t gotta buy her all this crazy ass shit. And she’s a smart girl too.”

    “White women treat they man like a king and Black women feel like they ain’t gotta do that shit. Black women need to stand by their man more. Don’t always put the pressure of if I’m fucking with you, you gotta buy me this and that. Black men are the ones that motherfuckers need [but] I think a lot of them need to step it up too.”

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    But you know… different strokes for different folks. The black girls who are on the road to SELF ESTEEM after reading Jada’s words are really the only ones who matter in this anyway.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    @cheeks- :rofl: You know he doesn’t have a top 3 hit list

    But I think he is a bitter black man there is nothing worse than a bitter black man..I guess Letoya(and all his other ex’s) broke his heart and he is taking it out on every black woman…SMH I guess they became successful and left him behind….poor slim.. 🙁

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    That interview of Slim Thug sounds like a male (not man) that just wants someone who doesn’t require much from them. A man wouldn’t want a doormat. And seriously, a woman that doesn’t cook. That’s takes me back to when I said most women just want, but what are they offering to the table?

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    **Ignoring Slim Thug** LOL I mean who really listens to THUGGA?

  • RINOLA

    ggouch says:

    There are young brown girls today….walking around with BLUE contacts, blond weave…because it has been instilled in them that this represents acceptance on all levels.

    They are being told that their afrodisiacted looks are not acceptable. That their short and/or natural hair is a bad thing…so cover it with something more EURPEON.

    This is reinerated amongst the males in their families as thier BROTHERS, UNCLES, and DADDY’s bring becky over for dinner. And you get mad when we tell you FLUCK you…MY BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL MUTHA FLUCKER!!! You want to tell us WE cause too much DRAMA when we tell you…..HELL NO!! I am not going to let you treat me anykind of way and still have dinner on the table by 6pm.

    What’s funny: When a black man is struggling, not on his game and we stick by him: We are his sister..his strong sister and some may even utter QUEEN. We hold you down…until…you sign that NBA contract and then you decide…we’re too much to handle!!!

    BLaCK women are soldiers!!…. and yes the call has to be sounded at every opportunity..WE HAVE keep sounding the alarm until…it is heard and implemented.
    *************************************************************

    :preach:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Smokie
    You made a good point…

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Who needs Jada for self esteeem? GTHOH! In her excerpt see mention how she has a complex because of what a black man told her. Puh-Lease…

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    So I guess we ignore the Kim K’s butt enhancement, lips injections, they also wear weaves and wigs my oh my the similarities are countless

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    @FREE…my words were …..There are young brown girls today….walking around with BLUE contacts, blond weave…because it has been instilled in them that this represents acceptance on all levels.

    You have to read deeper into my words..this is not about relaxed hair or experimental eye color.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @CHOCO

    Leave Kim K outta this!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Does it matter how many shows we have versus how many they have? We HAVE now and we did then. I’m sorry, I do respect everyone’s opinions, but I don’t get sucked up in the self hate/bashing. It’s not healthy.

  • FloridaChick813

    Wow

    Just

    Wow

  • Mamacita

    @Man Well I guess i’ll be less cool and important than you today 😉

    Here’s what Slim Thug had to say:

    “It’s hard to trust a Black woman because a lot of Black women’s mind frame is that the man gotta do everything for her – he gotta pay for this, he gotta pay for that, and if it ain’t about money then a lot of them ain’t ****ng with him. If that’s what you’re here for then I don’t want to be with you.

    Most single Black women feel like they don’t want to settle for less. Their standards are too high right now. They have to understand that successful Black men are kind of extinct. We’re important. It’s hard to find us so Black women have to bow down and let it be known that they gotta start working hard; they gotta start cooking and being down for they man more. They can’t just be running around with their head up in the air and passing all of us.

    I have a brother that dates a White woman and he always be ****ing with me about it saying, “Y’all gotta go through all that **** [but] my White woman is fine. She don’t give me no problems, she do whatever I say and y’all gotta do all that arguing and fighting and worry about all this other ****.'”

    My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the **** that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that. She don’t be begging and I don’t gotta buy her all this crazy ass ****. And she’s a smart girl too. She graduated from Columbia [University] and I like that about her so it’s cool. I’ve dated girls that will buy a $3,000 bag and don’t know how to pay it off on their credit cards. They walk around in these Louis Vuittons and red bottoms but they’re riding around in raggedy cars, so it’s just getting your priorities right.

    White women treat they man like a king and Black women feel like they ain’t gotta do that *****. Black women need to stand by their man more. Don’t always put the pressure of if I’m ******ing with you, you gotta buy me this and that. Black men are the ones that mother****ers need [but] I think a lot of them need to step it up too. A Black man who gets a little bread will go make it rain in the club and be broke the next day or instead of him going to invest in a business he gonna go buy new jewelry or a new car and still live in the hood. Black peoples’ mentality is real ****ed up in general [and] it’s affecting everything.

    Black women need to be more genuine and be more 50/50 [but] It should be a fair exchange in a relationship period or eventually somebody is gonna feel like they’re getting ****ed over whether it’s the woman or the man. I think that will help Black relationships out a lot.”

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ Flo

    :rofl:

    Don’t be scuuuuurrreeed

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Man
    Okay boo I knows you lubs some Kimmy Kakes (sarcasm : )

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Becuz once she starts alienating other races it’s still a subliminal form of discrimination there is nothing wrong with being any color but why do I need to mention color everytime I have a point to prove WTF is that all about I don’t live in a world where all I see are black ppl so naturally I’m more open and I’m damn sure not about to encourage more separatism…
    —————————————-
    Coco, she is not responsible for what other races think. Trust and believe, THEY are taking care of themselves and aren’t giving a rat’s behind about alientating us. Essence is a black woman’s magazine, so that’s the target audience. Why do we always have to apologize for uplifting ourselves? Many races alienate us, Coco, but no one is putting them in check. Latinos don’t apologize for their own stations and for being proud of their roots. Have you ever read Latina.com? It’s an uplifting magazine for Latina women. No one there apologizes for saying how proud they are of being Latina. We never complain about that, yet when black people do it, we are now responsible for “not alienting anyone.” Come on now, sister. Coco, you don’t have to encourage separatism. That’s already been done. Her comment about black women, in my eyes, was not about separation, but empowerment. It was positive affirmation.

  • Nina

    Kudos to Jada on the second cover for her daughter. Everyone couldn’t do that!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    FLo ain’t scurred more like disturbed cuz i am too you would think we are living in pre-slavery times…

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    this is not about esteem…esteem is a taylored issue..not THE MASSES issue.

    That’s the problem: People think we are angry when we express that selfesteem..They relable it as “ANGRY”…”TALK TO MUCH”….”Too INDEPENDENT”…

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Does it matter how many shows we have versus how many they have? We HAVE now and we did then. I’m sorry, I do respect everyone’s opinions, but I don’t get sucked up in the self hate/bashing. It’s not healthy.
    ___

    I hate the self hate as well. It seems to me that anyone who would take issue with Jada’s words is in the throes of the truest form of self hate. Just my opinon.

  • Mamacita

    ggouch says:

    this is not about esteem…esteem is a taylored issue..not THE MASSES issue.

    That’s the problem: People think we are angry when we express that selfesteem..They relable it as “ANGRY”…”TALK TO MUCH”….”Too INDEPENDENT”…

    ______________________________________________________

    Exactly! Why do people want to make you feel bad about feeling good about yourself. She’s comfortable in her skin and she expressed that. Why are people acting like she doesn’t have the right to do that? I don’t understand…I tell myself i’m beautiful/smart/funny everyday and I will continue to do so. I don’t see how that is redundant and uncalled for. It’s called being confident and knowing your worth.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Choco says:

    @Free
    FLo ain’t scurred more like disturbed cuz i am too you would think we are living in pre-slavery times
    ————
    I was being sarcastic with Flo, but I am disturbed too. I value each and everyone’s opinion but I just CAN’T play the victim for a lifetime. That’s how you miss out. Keep it postive and moving forward. Speaking on being a woman isn’t a race. When they have these articles, I don’t think they are talking to the readers, I think they are selling themselves (trying to convince) other races of what they are. If the white people stated talking about black women specifically and saying how beautiful we are, it’ll still be a problem. TRUST.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MAMMA CITA

    I don’t agree with everything and the deliverly was bad but he had some points.
    :shrugs:

  • The Originial MsG

    Thank you Jada. Beautifully stated and I really needed to read this today.

  • aqtpie

    Why does it matter now WHY we had to form our own? We did it! Let’s not forget that “they” now accept us on thier networks. What do we need? A lifetime apology. Let’s move forward and continue to make history. Not saying forget about where we come from but let’s not roll around in the mud either.
    ____________
    People “no one in particular & not just on this blog” have commented on the more than a few things blacks have obtained over the years compared to whites, as if they were just given to us. Personally I believe that any race would be accepted if there are benefits. (money from & for them)

    I’m not saying dwell on the past but there is definitely nothing wrong with remembering history. That’s JMHO!!

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    Mamacita says: @Man Well I guess i’ll be less cool and important than you today

    Here’s what Slim Thug had to say:
    ______________________________________________________________
    every single word in that interview just made my skin crawl. :hurl: all over my damn computer screen ….This is a man that does not know his history or his role!!!

  • lakercrazy

    ummmmm… slim said a lil too much dint he hey every body got an opinion about women and what we are suppose to do….thats just sad!!! so because his woman is half white that is the reason things are so good wow

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Smokie says:

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Does it matter how many shows we have versus how many they have? We HAVE now and we did then. I’m sorry, I do respect everyone’s opinions, but I don’t get sucked up in the self hate/bashing. It’s not healthy.
    ___

    I hate the self hate as well. It seems to me that anyone who would take issue with Jada’s words is in the throes of the truest form of self hate. Just my opinon.

    ————————————

    so you don’t think the topic is overdone? That’s all I hear. We don’t even talk about politics as much as how beautiful we are. Life isn’t all about beauty or how much we can be a face in a movie.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I feel you but first it’s Choco : ) but let me ask you this do you really think Dominican’s don’t discriminate agaisnt’ their own based on lighter and darker skin they do and so do Puerto Ricans so there is separatism amongst all races and I won’t be a part of it…

  • starr

    I agree with everything ggouch said. I”m just gonna leave it at that.

  • lakercrazy

    his interview was just a waste of time and reading!!!!

  • http://www.inkblock.webs.com iscream

    I aint worried ’bout yall cause I’m already me – Jay Z (Already Home)

    “I see you Jocking Jay Z cause he drive a Merceedes and you know he got the ladies..

    I see you jocking Jay Z, Jocking Jay Z (yeah) I’m so dope boy fresh” :dance:

    A post about black women neededing to love themself and Sean’s name is mentioned :shrugs:

    I guess Bey aint cupping them nuts the right way. She left some hanging for ppl to jump on. I’m going to have to have a little talk with her on how to correctly handle the balls… :coffee:

  • KrayZKat

    @FreeToSpeakUp – Last time I checked, Essence was a magazine whose readership is black women, so how are they trying to “sell themselves to other races?”

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    Oh trust hon I’m there with you however I can’t stand playing victim and I hate complaining about something I would rather be a part of the solution

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Smokie
    I don’t harbor self hate I hate ppl always making ish about color and race to me those are the ones who hate!

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @ISCREAM
    “I aint worried ’bout yall cause I’m already me – Jay Z (Already Home)

    “I see you Jocking Jay Z cause he drive a Merceedes and you know he got the ladies..

    I see you jocking Jay Z, Jocking Jay Z (yeah) I’m so dope boy fresh”

    A post about black women neededing to love themself and Sean’s name is mentioned

    I guess Bey aint cupping them nuts the right way. She left some hanging for ppl to jump on. I’m going to have to have a little talk with her on how to correctly handle the balls…”
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    I think that talk would be more appropriate with Larry Johnson.
    :coffee:

  • Mamacita

    @Man yeah I do agree his delivery was terrible. A few points were valid but he just made it seem like black women are evil or something. Maybe it wouldn’t have been so bad if he hadn’t directed so much negativity towards black women but if that’s how he feels then so be it…he’s entitled to his opinion i guess…

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    I feel you but first it’s Choco : ) but let me ask you this do you really think Dominican’s don’t discriminate agaisnt’ their own based on lighter and darker skin they do and so do Puerto Ricans so there is separatism amongst all races and I won’t be a part of it…
    ~~~~~~~~~
    Sorry about the misspelling.

    To answer your questions, yes I do. People around the world discriminate against their own based on color. Who asked you to be apart of separatism. I cannot for the life of me understand how you took Jada’s statement as being separatist.

    Read the text under, “On Her Flaws”

    She said, “We are WOMEN need to love ourselves.” I think that includes ALL women, doesn’t it?

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @qtpie

    I am just tired of the black women is this, and that, and we don’t, and this and that. UGH! Black even eat different. Ashamed to have collard greens, macaroni and cheese and fried chicken at parties. Now it’s finger foods, sushi and topas. Where did that come from? Because it sure isn’t in our tradition. Our nails salons and spas having wine and crackers, where did that come from. We can be so hypocrtical sometimes.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Choco says:

    @Free
    Oh trust hon I’m there with you however I can’t stand playing victim and I hate complaining about something I would rather be a part of the solution

    ——————————

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

  • aqtpie

    Smokie says:
    I hate the self hate as well. It seems to me that anyone who would take issue with Jada’s words is in the throes of the truest form of self hate. Just my opinion.
    ________________
    I :cosign: 1,000,000%

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Mama
    I don’t know your race but you said when you wake up you look yourself in the mirror and say how beautiful you are-do you say you are beautiful black, hispanic, white, indian or asian woman or do you just say how beautiful you are

  • iyonah

    Can someone recap what 175 comments are about? I was out to lunch and looks like I might need some :popcorn:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    KrayZKat says:

    @FreeToSpeakUp – Last time I checked, Essence was a magazine whose readership is black women, so how are they trying to “sell themselves to other races?”

    ———————

    Whoever they are trying to convince that they are beautiful

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MAMA CITA
    “yeah I do agree his delivery was terrible. A few points were valid but he just made it seem like black women are evil or something. Maybe it wouldn’t have been so bad if he hadn’t directed so much negativity towards black women but if that’s how he feels then so be it…he’s entitled to his opinion i guess…”
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    :shrugs:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Choco says:

    @Mama
    I don’t know your race but you said when you wake up you look yourself in the mirror and say how beautiful you are-do you say you are beautiful black, hispanic, white, indian or asian woman or do you just say how beautiful you are

    ———————

    :preach:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I didn’t say she was being a separatist I said making the statement that all black women keeps us separate you also should read no offense…

  • SangriaSugar

    Slim Thug just made me sick.

    Damn I was reading that and all I could think about was wishing he was in front of me so I could hold out my hand, say “Powder” and smack him five flucking times with the baby powdered hand!! Just so he could see what this independent black woman who has her prioritites in the right place would do to his azz!!

    No one is on him anyway…

  • http://myspace.com/foxybrown411 LADYWOODS

    I think this whole thing got kinda twisted out or proportion. Jada’s words were encouraging and positive. Something that some if not a lot of women need to hear. we are bombarded with Negativity in regards to Black women on a daily basis. It’s nice to hear something good for a change

  • KrayZKat

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    KrayZKat says:

    @FreeToSpeakUp – Last time I checked, Essence was a magazine whose readership is black women, so how are they trying to “sell themselves to other races?”

    ———————

    Whoever they are trying to convince that they are beautiful
    ————————-
    What makes you think that was Jada’s intended purpose. I don’t think she has to convince anyone of her beauty and self-worth. She believes she is so???

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    Damn, I have to admit that I support everything ggouch has written. Here it goes…

    You better preach, ggouch!

  • VIBABY

    @ISCREAM :rofl:

    Thanks for the laugh. I was just about to spray some antifluckery in this post….

    Love Jada. You’re a black woman speaking to black women. I heard you.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    LOL at Sangria…

  • scandalous1

    I loves me some black people. Classy, trashy, ghetto and all. If we don’t love one another, who will.

    “Thats All”

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    I didn’t say she was being a separatist I said making the statement that all black women keeps us separate you also should read no offense…
    ~~~~~~~~
    Choco, we already are separate in some people’s eyes. Let’s take for instance, the negative “press” black women have received. Let’s take for example, black women and being single. Why do you think they decided to discuss black women and singleness, and ignore the countless Asian men who complain about Asian women dating/marrying white men? Is it because they have the interest of black women at hand? Why do you suppose at every turn, black women are told how diseased we are and how we wear weaves (like other races don’t), and how masculine we are, and so and so forth. You see, we already are separated. Can you imagine a white male publicly saying what Slim Thug said if it were directed at WW?

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @KRAY Z KAT
    “Can you imagine a white male publicly saying what Slim Thug said if it were directed at WW?”
    _______________________________________________________________________________

    I can not imagine that…

  • KrayZKat

    scandalous1 – Thank you! :claps:

  • KrayZKat

    @Man, I’m sure you can’t because it wouldn’t happen.

  • aqtpie

    Choco says:
    @Mama
    I don’t know your race but you said when you wake up you look yourself in the mirror and say how beautiful you are-do you say you are beautiful black, hispanic, white, indian or asian woman or do you just say how beautiful you are
    _____________
    I know that wasn’t for me but look in the mirror and I say “how beautiful I am”. I have been told by DIFFERENT races that, I am a beautiful black woman though!!

    _______________
    @FreeToSpeakUp says:
    We can be so hypocritical sometimes.
    ______________
    :cosign: We “the human race” can definitely be hypocritical sometimes. I personally think that sometimes people don’t intend to be!!!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @AttorneyMom
    We can be separate already but that doesn’t mean I will encourage it I know that if I want things to change it will have to start with how I see things I don’t have all the answers but I refuse to think it’s just a black thing especially if I’m want to elevate the world I live in becuz I believe like minds attract like kind…regardless of color

  • aqtpie

    scandalous1 says:

    I loves me some black people. Classy, trashy, ghetto and all. If we don’t love one another, who will.

    “Thats All”
    ___________
    :rofl: Me too!!!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Aqtipie
    You know what you just made me think but when I get complimented no one has ever mentioned my race they just say how pretty I am…

  • KrayZKat

    @Choco,

    Can I ask you a question? How did what Jada said turn into a separation issues? I’m very puzzled. Would you be as offended if say, a Latina woman said, “I celebrate Latina beauty…” Just asking. I mean, all this “we are the world” stuff sounds good on paper, but that’s just now how our world is. We can all contribute to being a “colorblind” society, but actually, I don’t want that. I think we should celebrate our individual beauty and collective beauty.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @KrayZ

    Really, I am just tired of black women always playing the victim. Every single article is being black and beautiful. You read the “white” people magazine and it’s not “being white and beautiful on the cover.” We have our magazines, with out people on there, and when we see them we should see beauty automatically, but no we gotta beat ourselves. Don’t let Tiny be on the front *side eye*

  • Mamacita

    @Choco Hell i’m mixed with so much chyt i wouldn’t know what to call myself anyway lol…I tell people all that time that i am not defined by color and I chose other when filling out forms. I could care less about that because beauty is beauty no matter what color it is. I just don’t see how it’s wrong for people to say black/brown/white/khaki/purple/green/yellow whatever color you may be is beautiful. If that’s what you are then be proud of it. What’s wrong with that?

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I already answered your question scroll up…

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    I just wanted to point out to some of you that Jada said specifically: “Lay your eyes on the beauty of black women!” The reason that’s important is because we (black women) are being systematically cleansed from all print and electronic media. For instance, in television commercials, our children are being replaced by mixed children with light skin, loose curls and hair textures that are different from ours. It is extremely rare to see a black family on TV these days. Back in the 70s and 80s, it was rare to see biracial or mixed people in EBONY magazine ads. Now, that’s all you see. I thank Jada for pointing out our beauty since no one else will do it.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    KrayZKat says:

    @Choco,

    Can I ask you a question? How did what Jada said turn into a separation issues? I’m very puzzled. Would you be as offended if say, a Latina woman said, “I celebrate Latina beauty…” Just asking. I mean, all this “we are the world” stuff sounds good on paper, but that’s just now how our world is. We can all contribute to being a “colorblind” society, but actually, I don’t want that. I think we should celebrate our individual beauty and collective beauty.

    —————————————

    They have black latina’s now what?

  • KrayZKat

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    @KrayZ

    Really, I am just tired of black women always playing the victim. Every single article is being black and beautiful. You read the “white” people magazine and it’s not “being white and beautiful on the cover.” We have our magazines, with out people on there, and when we see them we should see beauty automatically, but no we gotta beat ourselves. Don’t let Tiny be on the front *side eye*
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Every single article is always being, “black and beautiful.” Really? Where? White mags don’t have to come out and say, “White is beautiful;” it’s already implied. Have you heard the term, “Blond beauty.” White people always tout their beauty. Why do you think so many women want to look like white women. The standard of beauty in the world relates to how close to a white woman you can be.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    I don’t think it’s wrong to say and be proud of your heritage but I get bored of hearing about what a black woman should do all the time I mean I’m not that confused about life so while Jada is promoting self-love I just wish it could’ve been more generic cuz honestly I don’t need her advice on sex, career, motivation any of that imo ppl nowadays act as if the black woman is so lost – no females are lost period…crackheads don’t come in one color I’m proud of being a strong black woman but damn if I wasn’t black does that mean I’m not strong

  • aqtpie

    Choco says:
    @Aqtipie
    You know what you just made me think but when I get complimented no one has ever mentioned my race they just say how pretty I am…
    _____________
    That’s beautiful! It’s been said both ways but either way I took it is a compliment. My sister is 100% white/caucasian and I look at her as just beautiful though!!

  • KrayZKat

    I know they have black Latinas. What’s your point? They still are proud of who they are and make no apologies about it.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Sandra Rose says:

    I just wanted to point out to some of you that Jada said specifically: “Lay your eyes on the beauty of black women!” The reason that’s important is because we (black women) are being systematically cleansed from all print and electronic media. For instance, in television commercials, our children are being replaced by mixed children with light skin, loose curls and hair textures that are different from ours. It is extremely rare to see a black family on TV these days. Back in the 70s and 80s, it was rare to see biracial or mixed people in EBONY magazine ads. Now, that’s all you see. I thank Jada for pointing out our beauty since no one else will do it.

    —————————————————————-

    But Sandra, what is pointing out our beauty going to solve? Our intelligence will reign as we evolve. :yes:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Sandra
    But aren’t there more mixed raced families now than they were back in the day perhaps the media is trying to keep it realistic for lack of a better word

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Who is making apologies for it I just don’t need it as a crutch or as some friggin type of empathy…

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    KrayZKat says:

    I know they have black Latinas. What’s your point? They still are proud of who they are and make no apologies about it.

    —————————————-

    The point is Jada said black women, she could’ve been talking to them too right? Now what……….then still wouldn’t be about “us” right?

  • KrayZKat

    Sandra Rose says:

    I just wanted to point out to some of you that Jada said specifically: “Lay your eyes on the beauty of black women!” The reason that’s important is because we (black women) are being systematically cleansed from all print and electronic media. For instance, in television commercials, our children are being replaced by mixed children with light skin, loose curls and hair textures that are different from ours. It is extremely rare to see a black family on TV these days. Back in the 70s and 80s, it was rare to see biracial or mixed people in EBONY magazine ads. Now, that’s all you see. I thank Jada for pointing out our beauty since no one else will do it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The truth in a nutshell. THANKS, SANDRA!

  • MZN

    I think what Jada said was very positive. Why so much hate on her? BW still need to hear that, especially with all that filth that’s supposed to represent us.Speaking of filth, yes we do have our own TV networks and such but what do we have? BET? That’s not even a black owned network, so that doesn’t count.
    I understand that it’s all redundant, but that’s Essence magazine for you… Outdated and still victimizing black women. That’s why I stopped reading it years ago.

    MZN

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ Choco

    Heck yea, my radio station keeps telling black women and Regina King was just telling black women to date outside their race, but then the black women get mad when all the mixed babies pop up on Gerber and Gap commercials. Hell, somebody black made the baby right? Blacks will never be happy!

  • Mamacita

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    @KrayZ

    Really, I am just tired of black women always playing the victim. Every single article is being black and beautiful. You read the “white” people magazine and it’s not “being white and beautiful on the cover.” We have our magazines, with out people on there, and when we see them we should see beauty automatically, but no we gotta beat ourselves. Don’t let Tiny be on the front *side eye*

    _____________________________________

    Sooooooooooo how exactly is saying “Lay your eyes on the beauty of black women!” ,as she said in the article, being a victim? How does that invoke these self hate rants about black women not loving themselves? Riddle me that…where did all this come from? Is that not a compliment? Is that not uplifting? Sounds like she’s just proud of the fact that she’s a black woman to me :shrug:

    It seems like the people who turned this compliment into something negative are the ones with real issues…

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    KrayZKat says:

    Every single article is always being, “black and beautiful.” Really? Where? White mags don’t have to come out and say, “White is beautiful;” it’s already implied.

    ************************************

    Edited:
    Thank you! :clap: And now its implied that mixed is beautiful. I’m not saying mixed is not beautiful, I’m saying that they are now the standard of beauty for the black race. I don’t even watch TV anymore because it’s so depressing. All you see in TV commercials are light skin people. If you are black, don’t even bother showing up for a casting call for “ethnic minorities.”

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Who is making apologies for it I just don’t need it as a crutch or as some friggin type of empathy…
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Choco, that’s fine, but you don’t live in a fishbowl. Maybe someone else needed to hear what Jada said.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    Thank you making that point….it should’ve been all women especially since we know Jada does love all women…

  • MZN

    Yes,thanks Sandra!

  • Daisy

    Anybody watch the My black is beautiful show sun on BET?

    @flo I am not big on cruises but you are in FL so u can cruise anywhere let me know which islands u are lookin at?

    I am not a victim nor do I have low self esteem yet I agreed w/Jada niccas will bish abt any and everything. You don’t have to say white is beautiful cause that’s the assumputation right or wrong. You may not need uplifting but others young and old may so if it don’t apply let it fly geesh!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    But Sandra, what is pointing out our beauty going to solve? Our intelligence will reign as we evolve.

    ************************************

    Because we are being ethnically cleansed from all print and electronic media.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Sandra Rose says:

    KrayZKat says:

    Every single article is always being, “black and beautiful.” Really? Where? White mags don’t have to come out and say, “White is beautiful;” it’s already implied.

    ************************************

    Thank you! And now its implied that light skin is beautiful. I’m not saying light skin is not beautiful, I’m saying that they are now the standard of beauty for the black race. I don’t even watch TV anymore because it’s so depressing. All you see in TV commercials are light skin people. If you are black, don’t even bother showing up for a casting call for “ethnic minorities.”
    ———————————————

    but Sandra, black is black regardless of the shade of color right? Why be mad that a lighter skin BLACK women are being chosen? That’s self hate

  • aqtpie

    Blacks will never be happy!
    ___________
    @ Free :cosign: well at least some! That’s why I feel issues would have been made about Jada’s statement regardless of how it was worded!!!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Now we are talking in circles just like someone may have needed to hear that next person didn’t need to — I’m done with this okay we agree to disagree

  • KrayZKat

    Sandra Rose says:

    KrayZKat says:

    Every single article is always being, “black and beautiful.” Really? Where? White mags don’t have to come out and say, “White is beautiful;” it’s already implied.

    ************************************

    Thank you! And now its implied that light skin is beautiful. I’m not saying light skin is not beautiful, I’m saying that they are now the standard of beauty for the black race. I don’t even watch TV anymore because it’s so depressing. All you see in TV commercials are light skin people. If you are black, don’t even bother showing up for a casting call for “ethnic minorities.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    EXACTLY!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    aqtpie says:

    Blacks will never be happy!
    ___________
    @ Free well at least some! That’s why I feel issues would have been made about Jada’s statement regardless of how it was worded!!!

    —————————

    Honestly, it was never what she said. Everyone is exploting black “issues” for their gain. All this talking and nothing has changed. All these forums just cause confusion. Blacks should date outside the race, mad when the mix babies show up, black women aren’t on t.v. enough but when they are, they’re too light skinned, look too close to white. C’mon……..

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Now we are talking in circles just like someone may have needed to hear that next person didn’t need to — I’m done with this okay we agree to disagree
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Choco, the ones that didn’t care to hear it, didn’t need to read it. You are making this way more than it should be.

    Anyway, chiao.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Choco I am exhausted too! To everyone (and Sandra) :cheers: I’ve mentally had an orgasm

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    but Sandra, black is black regardless of the shade of color right? Why be mad that a lighter skin BLACK women are being chosen? That’s self hate

    ***********************************

    No it isn’t. I went back and edited my comment because I meant to say mixed people are the preferred race over people with African features. I have light skinned people in my family who are not mixed or biracial.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    Anyway I think someone said it best if it don’t apply let it fly so if what I’m saying don’t apply let it fly see how everything has two sides!

    @Kray
    No you are making it more that what it is I simply stated an opinion and folks seem to not be able to deal with my POV so basically we are all doing the same thing!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Sandra
    I think you are reaching saying that mixed people are the preferred race….that is a real broad stroke

  • KrayZKat

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Sandra Rose says:

    KrayZKat says:

    Every single article is always being, “black and beautiful.” Really? Where? White mags don’t have to come out and say, “White is beautiful;” it’s already implied.

    ************************************

    Thank you! And now its implied that light skin is beautiful. I’m not saying light skin is not beautiful, I’m saying that they are now the standard of beauty for the black race. I don’t even watch TV anymore because it’s so depressing. All you see in TV commercials are light skin people. If you are black, don’t even bother showing up for a casting call for “ethnic minorities.”
    ———————————————

    but Sandra, black is black regardless of the shade of color right? Why be mad that a lighter skin BLACK women are being chosen? That’s self hate
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    I know you were addressing Sandra, but I want to add: You don’t see that as a discriminatory practice to only case LSLH people on the screen? Talk about separation. The world has been taught to abhor it’s darker skinned counterparts, and that is reflected on the screen.

    Have you noticed that in commercials, they’ll have a dark-skinned male, but the female is 99.9% is light-skinned. Do you think that is by accident?

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    Yes chile and this is why I kept at it love a difference in opinions and perspectives and even a healthy debate – THANKS TO ALL!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @Sandra
    I think you are reaching saying that mixed people are the preferred race….that is a real broad stroke

    ***********************************

    Am I really? Turn on your TV when you get home tonight and count how many of us black (non-mixed) women you see on television commercials or reporting on the evening news.

  • RINOLA

    :offtopic:

    Gary Coleman Death: Ex-Wife Allegedly Selling Hospital Photos

  • KrayZKat

    @Choco – this is a friendly debate. I respect yours and everyone else’s opinion. I really do, I’m just trying to make sense out of how Jada’s comment was turned into a negative issue. That’s all. It’s funny because a lot of people wrote off what Slim Thugs said, which was totally negative and he did so publicly, yet Jada gives black women a nod, and it’s taken to mean she’s excluding others.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I’m butting in so move over lol first there are a lot of dark skin ppl in film and the industry so many to name but I will start with a few: Whoopi Goldberg, Cedric the Entertainer, Martin Lawrence, IMAN, Alek Wek, Denzel, Taye Diggs, Lance, Gabrielle Union there are countless others

  • Val

    Black women need uplifting- we have the worst self image imaginable- Black woman are probably the only woman left on earth that feels threaten by each other-

    I personally don’t feel that way- but I have experienced it in my community- A Black woman – who does not know me or even have seen me before will shoot daggers with her eyes at me.. for no reason- LMAO
    we gotta long way to go sistas..

    reminds me of that kesha cole- missy elliot song.. I dont want yo maaaan, cuz i got it like that.. it aint even gotta be like that uh uh uh uh :whistle:

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    KrayZKat says:

    The world has been taught to abhor it’s darker skinned counterparts, and that is reflected on the screen.
    Have you noticed that in commercials, they’ll have a dark-skinned male, but the female is 99.9% is light-skinned. Do you think that is by accident?

    *******************************

    Thank you! :clap: This is what I’ve been saying all along! In every commercial the brotha is black but his woman and child are biracial.

  • free

    why didn’t she request not to be airbrushed/photoshopped then? i don’t see a wrinkle anywhere on her.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I don’t think we were being negative when we suggested she say all women we were stating an opinion that I still stand by and Slim’s was yesterday’s news I stated my opinion on him I said he’s mad cuz LeToya left his bama azz and that’s why he’s putting down black women she made a song that said “Don’t you regret the day that I left you” Im sure that was about him

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    I’m butting in so move over lol first there are a lot of dark skin ppl in film and the industry so many to name but I will start with a few: Whoopi Goldberg, Cedric the Entertainer, Martin Lawrence, IMAN, Alek Wek, Denzel, Taye Diggs, Lance, Gabrielle Union there are countless others
    ———————————
    🙂

  • OutsidetheBox

    Messy in here. :coffee:

  • lakercrazy

    @SANDRA i think in any race hispaninc black watever u are the lighter u are the more beutiful they consider you…..my daughter is mix with black and mex and my step daughter is full black and she is darker than my daughter i consider both of them beutiful in their own ways but people at stores or restaurants always some to my daughter and say “she is so beutifull what is she mix?” that really bothers me why does it matter isnt beutiful in any race the same???

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ KrayZ
    I know you were addressing Sandra, but I want to add: You don’t see that as a discriminatory practice to only case LSLH people on the screen? Talk about separation. The world has been taught to abhor it’s darker skinned counterparts, and that is reflected on the screen.

    Have you noticed that in commercials, they’ll have a dark-skinned male, but the female is 99.9% is light-skinned. Do you think that is by accident?

    ————————-

    But aren’t they black? Maybe they see that “type” of black being beautiful because last time I checked, we are not on the cover with nappy roots, no make-up and no photoshop. It’s called selling dreams. Black people discriminate against each other so much, I bet if Precious would’ve made the same remarks, this conversation would’ve gone left field. “We” preceived Jada to be beautiful and “black” and lighter skinned so it’s okay for her to tell someone to feel pretty because she’s pretty. If it were someone we thought was ugly, no one would be listening to the black is beauty crap!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Sandra
    I will do just that I haven’t focused on it but I will check out what you are saying….

  • Mamacita

    :rofl: why are people acting like they were born yesterday? Pick up a magazine or watch a special on “The Top Beautiful WOmen in the WOrld” or “Maxim’s Hot 100” or any of these other things that rank beauty. Tell me how many BLACK women have been on those…then when you finish picking your brain on that one tell me how many of them were DARK and which ones were LIGHT. C’mon now…if you can’t inderstand from these lists and shows that white people don’t value back beauty then you my friend are lost!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Free
    Love it good points indeed

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    I would hate to be a dark skinned model or actress in this industry right now. You show up at a casting call for “exotic-looking black women” and you see all the biracial chicks lined up. I always thought black women were exotic-looking period. :shrug:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Mama
    America’s Next Top Model has a lot of dark skin women and I think two dark skinned women won the contest I see women of darker skin alot so I don’t think dark skin is tabu in fact I think it’s more in now…

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    free says:

    why didn’t she request not to be airbrushed/photoshopped then? i don’t see a wrinkle anywhere on her.

    ——————–

    thank you Free #2 (hehehehehe)

  • KrayZKat

    KrayZKat says:

    The world has been taught to abhor it’s darker skinned counterparts, and that is reflected on the screen.
    Have you noticed that in commercials, they’ll have a dark-skinned male, but the female is 99.9% is light-skinned. Do you think that is by accident?

    *******************************

    Thank you! This is what I’ve been saying all along! In every commercial the brotha is black but his woman and child are biracial.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, Sandra. It’s so obvious. I don’t see how people can miss it.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    lakercrazy says:

    … people at stores or restaurants always some to my daughter and say “she is so beutifull what is she mix?”

    ********************************

    How can you blame them when the white male dominated media has brainwashed them to believe that mixed is more beautiful? :shrug:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ Choco

    😉

  • free

    SR you need to stop. I think the commercials have less to do with dark skin hate than marketing for the product. It’s the Will Smith effect where he doesn’t pair with a dark skin chick in his movies because supposedly it will be labeled as a “black” movie. This is what I think when commercials try to include a black person but never keep it 100% dark skinned. They are trying to appease YT more than making a statement about a dark skinned woman. The one thing I can’t stand when commercials are 100% black is they always start with the coonery (slang, black woman with attitude, gotta have soul music in it, etc.).

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    Okay maybe we get different cable channels I can recall a tide commercial and countless others that have black family not mixed but a typical black family and on that Tide commercial that fine azz chocolate brother hold his chocolate son made me love black!

  • lakercrazy

    @sandra that is so true never really saw it that way it bothers me but i guess that is the america we live in……..

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MAMA CITA
    ” Pick up a magazine or watch a special on “The Top Beautiful WOmen in the WOrld” or “Maxim’s Hot 100? or any of these other things that rank beauty. Tell me how many BLACK women have been on those…”
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    I don’t think the darker sisters fare too well on those lists in any magazines. Black or white…

  • Val

    @ Sandra

    true dat- true dat
    but I feel blacks would have an even bigger problem than yt people by having a dark skinned sista on TV.. unless she’s doing something degrading.. then of course, its okay

    most black people are brain washed and subconsciously do enjoy seeing more fair skinned people representing Black culture- #just sayin

  • KrayZKat

    @Free – it’s okay for Jada to say whatever she wants to say.

  • Mamacita

    Choco says:

    @Mama
    America’s Next Top Model has a lot of dark skin women and I think two dark skinned women won the contest I see women of darker skin alot so I don’t think dark skin is tabu in fact I think it’s more in now…

    _____________________________________________________________

    That’s one of many my friend, one of many…

    How many black Miss America’s have we had? How many black women have been #1 on these list of most beautiful people?

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    OMG Sandra if you don’t post Professor Marcus Hill’s response to Slim Thugg you will loose some cool points…please POST!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Mama
    See this where we differ I don’t give a rats azz which publication is listing the most beautiful they didn’t ask my opinion I don’t ever pay any attention to those fake lists…

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Mamacita says:

    Choco says:

    @Mama
    America’s Next Top Model has a lot of dark skin women and I think two dark skinned women won the contest I see women of darker skin alot so I don’t think dark skin is tabu in fact I think it’s more in now…

    _____________________________________________________________

    That’s one of many my friend, one of many…

    How many black Miss America’s have we had? How many black women have been #1 on these list of most beautiful people?

    ———————————-

    How many black women are TRYING to be Miss America?

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ KrayZ

    Please don’t put words in my mouth…Never said the chick couldn’t say what she wanted.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Man, I just don’t care™ says:

    @MAMA CITA
    ” Pick up a magazine or watch a special on “The Top Beautiful WOmen in the WOrld” or “Maxim’s Hot 100? or any of these other things that rank beauty. Tell me how many BLACK women have been on those…”
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    I don’t think the darker sisters fare too well on those lists in any magazines. Black or white…

    ———————————–

    You got a point, which means what? Self Hate

  • http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

    :yawn:

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    You know what I see where all of you are coming from but Jada had the best quote of all time ….all time….

    exits stage left —>>>

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @FREE TO SPEAK
    “” Pick up a magazine or watch a special on “The Top Beautiful WOmen in the WOrld” or “Maxim’s Hot 100? or any of these other things that rank beauty. Tell me how many BLACK women have been on those…”
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    I don’t think the darker sisters fare too well on those lists in any magazines. Black or white…

    ———————————–

    You got a point, which means what? Self Hate”
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Naw… not necessarily.

  • OutsidetheBox

    :cosign: Yvonne

    :yawn:

  • Mamacita

    Choco says:

    @Mama
    See this where we differ I don’t give a rats azz which publication is listing the most beautiful they didn’t ask my opinion I don’t ever pay any attention to those fake lists…

    ____________________________________________________

    I don’t want you to care about those list because quite frankly i think they’re BS but it’s an example of how people view beauty and very few black people ever make the list. You don’t have to agree with their standard of beauty but it is out there…that’s all i’m sayin.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    If we’re publishing our own magazines and don’t want darker skinned on the front page all the time what else could that mean? Ok, hate is too harsh…how about self dislike.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MISSY
    “You know what I see where all of you are coming from but Jada had the best quote of all time ….all time….

    exits stage left —>>>”
    _______________________________________________________________________________

    ROFLMAO!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    How does a dark skin woman not being in the Maxim 100 List equate to her own self-hate that’s perposterous!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    OMG, I am tired. To everyone, have a safe and blessed day. I always enjoy a healthy debate.

    (fist in the air) ‘Keep hope alive” :rofl:

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @FREE TO SPEAK
    “If we’re publishing our own magazines and don’t want darker skinned on the front page all the time what else could that mean? Ok, hate is too harsh…how about self dislike.?
    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    Naw. I wouldn’t call it that either.

  • KrayZKat

    @Choco, that brother brought it HOME. I’m so proud that there are stand-up brothers that have the guts to terminate ignorance such as Slim’s and call it out for what it is! Marcus Hill gets HUGE kudos from me. Lord knows some loyal sisters sure take up for brothers when they are maligned.

  • Mamacita

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    Mamacita says:

    Choco says:

    @Mama
    America’s Next Top Model has a lot of dark skin women and I think two dark skinned women won the contest I see women of darker skin alot so I don’t think dark skin is tabu in fact I think it’s more in now…

    _____________________________________________________________

    That’s one of many my friend, one of many…

    How many black Miss America’s have we had? How many black women have been #1 on these list of most beautiful people?

    ———————————-

    How many black women are TRYING to be Miss America?

    ________________________________

    I’m pretty sure there are plenty of black women that want to do it but they either don’t get picked or just don’t do it because they assume their beauty isn’t good enough. I’ve had a friend who tried once and got DENIED. That’s just the way it is…

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Mama
    I can’t change the world I can change how I see things if some ppl view dark skin not beautiful there are the same amount that view dark skin as beautiful

  • The Originial MsG

    All the sista did was try to encourage black women. What did she do wrong? There is so much in the media (especially for us single sistas) to tell us we are diseased, not marriage material, not submissive enough, unloved and unwanted by other races, by our own men and by other races of women. Damn. Sometimes all the self-love in the world cannot be enough to fight that everyday.

    Here this woman just wants to say an encouraging word and she is being run in the ground for doing it.
    Ok.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    @ Mamacita

    Got denied because of her color. We can be dirt wrong and scream someone did something because of our color or it’s the white man’s fault. Change starts with self, not pointing the finger at everyone else. #foodforthought

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Girl yes he did and I know Slim Thug feels like a slimy slug that MAN let it be known!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    The Originial MsG says:

    All the sista did was try to encourage black women. What did she do wrong? There is so much in the media (especially for us single sistas) to tell us we are diseased, not marriage material, not submissive enough, unloved and unwanted by other races, by our own men and by other races of women. Damn. Sometimes all the self-love in the world cannot be enough to fight that everyday.

    Here this woman just wants to say an encouraging word and she is being run in the ground for doing it.
    Ok.

    —————————-

    But it’s not white people talking about it, ITS US!!!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    I honestly don’t care what the media says about black women they don’t take care of my home and the media has become a less credible source more and more these days I mean honestly I don’t look to the media which is biased for my perspective…

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    And again I need to add I have not attacked Jada’s character I just wish she would open her advice to inspire and encourage all women we are all sistas regardless of how color

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Girl yes he did and I know Slim Thug feels like a slimy slug that MAN let it be known!
    ~~~~~~~~
    :yes: He sure did, girl. And I hope he does feel slimy or more like a fool. Someone said he committed “career suicide.” My thought was, “what career?”

  • Mamacita

    We can argue this issue til we’re blue in the face but the bottom line is that beauty has no color. Whether people choose to agree with this is not my concern. Goodday!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    When they put Whoopi Goldberg on the cover of all issues, I will rest my case and be humbled.

    :nite:

  • lakercrazy

    @mamacita :preach:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Yeah he has no career but Slim is bitter and it is an ugly trait to display…LeToya is prolly laughing so hard at him…the nerve

    @Mama
    Uh that’s the point Free and I have been trying to make amongst other things

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @FREE TO SPEAK
    “When they put Whoopi Goldberg on the cover of all issues, I will rest my case and be humbled.”
    __________________________________________________________________________________

    why wait for that? Rosie O’Donnel couldn’t make the cover of her own magazine so why Whoopi gotta be on a cover?

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    And again I need to add I have not attacked Jada’s character I just wish she would open her advice to inspire and encourage all women we are all sistas regardless of how color
    ——————————-
    @Choco – you know other races of girls get reaffirmed all the time. Did you see the latest doll test that was conducted. The first test was done back in, I think, 1942, and one was recently done again, and black children overwhelmingly picked the white doll as the most beautiful, etc. That’s very telling.

  • Val

    I CAN RUN FOR MISS BLACK AMERICA…..IM CUTE ENOUGH WITH A GODDESS BODY…

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I saw that doll test and was annoyed and bothered and wondered what the hell is going on in those homes but in all honestly when my mother started buying me dolls back in the 70’s most of my baby dolls were white and so were my barbie dolls but it didn’t change my view on beauty now there are many black doll babies so that study is a little odd…
    @Free
    Oprah is on her own magazine…

  • The Originial MsG

    It would be great to say that the media has no influence on your life and point of view, but it does. It has nothing to do with low self-esteem or being a sucka to it or any of that. It just does. That is why the media is to wealthy and powerful.

  • OutsidetheBox

    Val said the most interesting chit since up post…and I agree. :yes:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Original
    But then ppl grow and mature and begin to see life differently from the media’s perspective – the media does not influence me, my children a lot of my friends in fact the media makes my children stand on their own alot especially when it comes to having their own opinion and perspective so in that way it has helped becuz I discuss and point out the falsety in media

  • CorporateHoodB-tch

    Sounds like some border-line Uncle Rutkus talk to me. You darkies betta stop blaming the good white man for all problems and accept all the wonderful opportunities he has given you coons!

    By the way, white people love to meet a black person that thinks racism doesn’t exist and that blacks don’t need special forums that reach out and uplift blacks specifically.

    Save this talk for your next interview with YT. Oh my bad, since blacks have overcome so much…I’m sure your next interview will be with a black person.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    I guess some folks live in little rural towns my black sister co-owns a black successful restaurant in the DMV area “Carolina Kitchen” I have been interviewed by and worked for a black CEO, I know a lot of black successful ppl so it’s not that I don’t think racism exists I think that as soon as I start thinking like that I have already lost!

  • KrayZKat

    @Choco, it does start in home. You see, that’s why I know that no matter how Jada’s daughter, Willow, dresses, her mom has probably already told her that nothing can touch her. I’m sure her self-esteem is higher than most adults. I hope a lot of parents saw that study and ingrain in their children, especially daughters, that they are beautiful and have worth regarding of their skin coloring.

  • http://facebook.com/renz.renegadesince1985 renegadesince1985

    “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery….none but ourselves can free your minds”

    At the end of the day, it’s up to you to uplift yourself. In this world, somebody/something is always going to be holding you back. It’s up to you – not the media, not Jada, not Oprah – but you, to make yourself feel beautiful. If you don’t love yourself, then why should anyone else?

    I’m a mixed mutt and I’m beautiful!!!!!! :danban:

  • KrayZKat

    CorporateHoodB-tch says:

    Sounds like some border-line Uncle Rutkus talk to me. You darkies betta stop blaming the good white man for all problems and accept all the wonderful opportunities he has given you coons!

    By the way, white people love to meet a black person that thinks racism doesn’t exist and that blacks don’t need special forums that reach out and uplift blacks specifically.

    Save this talk for your next interview with YT. Oh my bad, since blacks have overcome so much…I’m sure your next interview will be with a black person.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    :rofl:

    You now when Obama became the president, all that went out the door.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I agree I def think Will and Jada are doing their children justice by allowing them to be themselves and encouraging that

  • KrayZKat

    excuse the typos.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Renegade
    So right it does start with you and GOD says first love is self love…
    “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery….none but ourselves can free your minds”
    ________________________
    Exactly I don’t know how else to let folks know you enslave yourself with your mentality

  • KrayZKat

    renegadesince1985 says:

    “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery….none but ourselves can free your minds”

    At the end of the day, it’s up to you to uplift yourself. In this world, somebody/something is always going to be holding you back. It’s up to you – not the media, not Jada, not Oprah – but you, to make yourself feel beautiful. If you don’t love yourself, then why should anyone else?

    I’m a mixed mutt and I’m beautiful!!!!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    :yes:

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    renegadesince1985 says:

    “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery….none but ourselves can free your minds”

    At the end of the day, it’s up to you to uplift yourself. In this world, somebody/something is always going to be holding you back. It’s up to you – not the media, not Jada, not Oprah – but you, to make yourself feel beautiful. If you don’t love yourself, then why should anyone else?

    I’m a mixed mutt and I’m beautiful!!!!!! :danban:
    _______________________________________________________

    :preach: :cosign: ..

  • KrayZKat

    @Choco – you know, Harriet Tubman had the same problem.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Wow babes you really had me go into the archives but yes she did damn that was deep : )

  • CorporateHoodB-tch

    @KrayZKat…We have a black president :cheer: …and many other blacks have achieved phenonemal success. I just despise some the house nicca attitude of “I made it, so why can’t you”. That response doesn’t cure the effects of racism that many blacks endure on daily basis some much more than others, because of poverty, inferior schools in our neighborhoods, dark skin, (wider noses) african-american features…etc.

  • Val

    JUST KEEPIN IT REAL FOR YA OTB :koolaid3:

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Wow babes you really had me go into the archives but yes she did damn that was deep : )
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOL! Girl, is that deep or what?!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Yeah becuz it’s like all her suffering and struggles to free us yet slavery still exist in some parts of the world-history repeating itself I hope her legacy accomplishes what she intended just like MLK, Jr.

  • KrayZKat

    @Corporate – I could not agree with you more!

    When Obama was elected into office, people were touting the, “Blacks have no more excuses” mantra, and a woman wrote a response to that. I had to save it. A woman by the name of Olivia wrote this. Her comment was very profound to me so I saved it. It’s long so I apologize in advance.

    Name: Olivia
    Comment: What the hell does it mean no more excuses? I don’t get it. First most black people are hardworking, law abiding citizens, so let’s first break that myth. Second poverty is not an excuse but a reality. There are real barriers to some everyday black people’s success and Obama’s instant election doesn’t change that. There are as many poor black people before Inauguration and it is after. The idea that black people don’t do better because we make “excuses” is asinine and simplistic. When more unqualified teachers teach in inner cities schools than in the suburbs that’s not an excuse, but a reality. Now when every black child has the same access to quality education that Obama had attending Punahou which is the largest private school in the country then there will be no more excuses. When the everyday white person who blacks have to deal with on day to day basis treats us fair and equal, then there will be no more excuses. In fact black people blame themselves more for their own problems and rarely sight racism when SOMETIMES it played a role. Now before black people running there mouths about “excuses” than remove all barriers and then make that claim. What kills me is that in the past few years, ( no the 60’s) we have seen the murder of Sean Bell and the cops walk free, a Black woman tortured in Virginia, Jena Six , the two black men who were just KILLED by the police. When whites can satisfactory not compartmentalize successful blacks as the “exception” to the rule I will see some people point. You know the ol’ line “ I would invite Oprah to my house, cause I don’t see her like the rest of them, she’s not black. Black. Are the black people who don’t do right of course, but I argue there are many more who do right and face REAL barriers to success and this isn’t the time to just chalk real barriers up to “excuses”. Black people have never been short on inspiration, but hella short on opportunities. Let’s no forget Obama had to drop Wright, denounce Farrakhan ( a man he doesn’t know) on his way to the White House. For Tyler Perry, no more excuse for bad sitcoms either.

  • Val

    missy :preach:

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Yeah becuz it’s like all her suffering and struggles to free us yet slavery still exist in some parts of the world-history repeating itself I hope her legacy accomplishes what she intended just like MLK, Jr.
    ————
    You are right, and she was also trying to unchain their minds. She wanted them to be free, but so many of them didn’t know they were still enslaved. We know better now, but somehow some of us just don’t get it.

    There’s a brother on youtube named JayLove trying to talk to black people about this, but he gave us. He said many of them were too apathetic to do anything about it.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Sorry about that. I have to stop messing with the files on a live blog. 😆

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Sandra
    Yes you do have to stop : )

    @Kray
    I hope more ppl like him and myself can really make an impact becuz it’s unfair imo to still think like that and not even realize how far we have come

  • KrayZKat

    Oh, I wondered what happened 🙂

    @Choco, I’m right along with you, sis. We’ve come a loooong way, haven’t we?

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    Anyone who thinks that darker blacks are fairly represented on television is delusional and clearly only watching DVDs of Spike Lee movies.

    Instead of telling Jada to shut up, black women should PROUDLY stand behind her. I mean, who else is shouting you out? Who else sings about you other than Anthony Hamilton? Blonde and blue eyed or exotic is the standard of beauty in 2010. It might not be the standard in YOUR household, but it’s the standard at your black daughter’s school and on any television channel she turns to.

    And black women want to quiet JADA? Where’s the self love? We are not nearly close to a color blind society and the few black women who want to pretend like all things are fair and equal aren’t doing themselves or anyone who looks like them a service. When we finally do become a color blind society it will be when the darker skin has become virtually extent. You want that?

  • CorporateHoodB-tch

    @KrazyKat—-Thank you so much for posting #315…that’s exactly what I’m talking about.

    @Choco—I happened to be a black CEO of my own business with a six-figure salary. But, not all blacks have the opportunities that I’ve had. Therefore, we need to embrace our race as whole until there is a balance, we must recognize the disparity. Rather than ignore or pretend the problems don’t exist. Maybe the message will encourage the welfare moms, and the under-educated or even the low self esteem.

    @Free—Sorry, I just refuse to accept “we all sistas approach” and that no message is needed specifically toward blacks.

  • CorporateHoodB-tch

    Smokie, GG, The Orginal Ms G, KrazyKat…and some others—- :preach:

  • KrayZKat

    @Smokie – I have to wonder why so many of us don’t like to face these realities. We will fight everyone else’s fight, yet deny our own. It’s almost as though we are afraid to acknowledge that we are in a battle. We stand up for others, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but forget about our own backyard. That puzzles me.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Choco says:

    @Sandra
    Yes you do have to stop : )

    ***********************************

    Blame it on WordPress coders. They give some of their files identical names and stick them in different folders. Then if I customize one file called functions.php and upload it to the themes folder by mistake, it overwrites the functions.php file that’s in that folder and the blog disappears. LOL. Why can’t they have unique names for every file? 😆

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Sandra
    At least you are technically inclined cuz I know I’m not…
    @Corporate
    I don’t brush anything under the rug and since you are a black CEO what you doing to help your community how many blacks work for you what have you done to fix the problem that we so-called are brushing under the rug
    @Kray
    Yes maaam and I will keep on keepin on!

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    I think becuz it would make some of us have to do some real hard work and keep at it – I’m not for bashing anyone I love my race but my race needs to understand we are not the only race who suffers once we get over that we can focus on what we need to do….

  • OutsidetheBox

    Black women have a tough time separating our race from our sex/class in our struggle for equality…or at least most of the ones I know do. As I get deeper into my career, Black women (all 40+ too..) are few and far between but the ones I meet most def. start off with some uplifting of my Blackness. I’ve always, always valued that and I come from a home that celebrated wide noses and kinky hair (my beauty..)..

    But anyway, point being that, the only people who care enough about us to work consistently for us is us ; and that will evolve from a healthy love of ourselves and then we can affect our communities…but telling one Black woman to shut up cause you don’t need the message.. #wheretheydothatat?

  • lakercrazy

    @sandra at first wen i couldnt post a message i was like oh noo did she band me what did i say lol

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Again I believe that racism exists towards blacks..especially darker skin..but I feel like I should not just help someone who looks like me but I should help everyone….

    But now a days people are not out right racist they will shake your hand and go home and bleach their hands like they touched someone with a contagious disease…..

    I am for being proud of who you are…You can’t change it no matter how much you bleach/get plastic surgery… but I am also my brothers keeper no matter their color…

    This is just me…

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    No one said shut up most of us all were like why can’t you say women period! Great she’s black and so am I but as a female a woman I would dispense uplifting advice to all women I beat the odds when I don’t act like they expect me to

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Missy
    That’s how I feel I mean damn we are all GODS CHILDREN are we not?

  • KrayZKat

    @Kray
    Yes maaam and I will keep on keepin on!
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    :yes: That’s what I’m talking about!

    Ya know, I agree. We aren’t the only race that suffers, but you know what Choco, we are the only race that doesn’t seem to have back up. I mean. we get attacked from without and within. What other race of man would go nationally and put down women that look like them? If you are Asian, you have Asia. If you are Mexican, you have Mexico. If you are Russian, you have Russia. Shoot, even the Native Americans have more support. They have a group of people who have their backs. Who do we have? Even foreign blacks have a homeland. I thinks that’s why so many other races have a lot of pride in themselves because their culture and common language and pride in their country was kept in tact. Ours was separated hundreds of years ago. My sister works at many Indian reservations all over the country, and she said they have it worst than blacks. They are horribly discriminated against, but they have a nation with their own schools, clinics, money, etc. Just a thought.

    But like you said before, we have come a LONG way, and we are making strides like none other. I surely don’t always want to focus on the negative.

  • lakercrazy

    AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE ALL BEUTIFUL WOMEN AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS NO MATTER THE COLOR WE ALL NEED UPLIFTING ADVICE SOMEONE TO TELL US WE ARE BEUTIFUL IM NOT A BLACK WOMAN BUT I TOOK JADA WORDS AS INSPIRING WISH SHE WOULD HAVE JUST SAID WOMEN IN GENERAL BUT THE MAGAZINE IS FOR MOST OF THE TIME BLACK WOMEN!!!! SO I FEEL SHE WAS TALKING TO HER AUDINCE

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @Kray
    Right and I wish as a black community we did stand for one another but I think for some blacks they live in fear and insecurity and it manifest itself I’m just gonna keep on loving everyone as much as I can…and hopefully that will become our norm! By babes I’m about to be out great talking with ya : )

  • OutsidetheBox

    Excuse me; that’s my bad…”shut up” was not meant literally…but that’s basically what was said, IMO..

    Have you ever researched the Feminists movement (here in America) and why WoC separated from the white feminists? It’s a great research area if you are interested…and I think it would give great insight on why women who think like Jada aim for the Black woman specifically… she is the most marginalized of all time. *Kanye voice* All Time! LOL

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

    @OTB thanks for that info…

  • CorporateHoodB-tch

    @Corporate
    I don’t brush anything under the rug and since you are a black CEO what you doing to help your community how many blacks work for you what have you done to fix the problem that we so-called are brushing under the rug
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    I sit on the board of a couple of non-profit organizations that help my community. Also, I volunteer with a reading program for children at a near by school. My resume is quite extensive. However, this is not about me…because when and if I sell my business…my next interview will probably be with YT.
    Choco…I’m glad you don’t need a crutch or Jada’s message but some blacks still do need some type of helping hand or an uplifting message.

  • http://twitter.com/Ms_Missy2791 missy

    Choco says:

    @Missy
    That’s how I feel I mean damn we are all GODS CHILDREN are we not?
    ____________________

    Last time I checked YUP …

    How about this any little girl you see who looks down no matter what race tell her “She’s beautiful” you might help someone find self worth ………

  • KrayZKat

    Choco says:

    @Kray
    Right and I wish as a black community we did stand for one another but I think for some blacks they live in fear and insecurity and it manifest itself I’m just gonna keep on loving everyone as much as I can…and hopefully that will become our norm! By babes I’m about to be out great talking with ya : )
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    @Choco, hey that’s all we can do, hon. It’s been nice, sweetie. It was great talking to you too. You have a wonderful day/evening, and God bless!

  • KrayZKat

    @Corporate – I’m sorry. I didn’t even see your post. You are welcome for comment #315. I read that and I had to save it because it was so on point!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Smokie says:

    Instead of telling Jada to shut up, black women should PROUDLY stand behind her. I mean, who else is shouting you out? Who else sings about you other than Anthony Hamilton? Blonde and blue eyed or exotic is the standard of beauty in 2010. It might not be the standard in YOUR household, but it’s the standard at your black daughter’s school and on any television channel she turns to.

    And black women want to quiet JADA? Where’s the self love? We are not nearly close to a color blind society and the few black women who want to pretend like all things are fair and equal aren’t doing themselves or anyone who looks like them a service. When we finally do become a color blind society it will be when the darker skin has become virtually extent. You want that?

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    :clap: :clap:

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    CorporateHoodB-tch says….and many other blacks have achieved phenonemal success. I just despise some the house nicca attitude of “I made it, so why can’t you”. That response doesn’t cure the effects of racism that many blacks endure on daily basis some much more than others, because of poverty, inferior schools in our neighborhoods, dark skin, (wider noses) african-american features…etc.
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    CHB!! I had to leave this post earlier because I felt myself getting passionante……you are so on point that if you were here I would be slapping your palm in HIGH FIVES of agreement!! I too despise those types of black people….I work for a law school here in GA..I work closely with DEANS..I see black alum…who come through and they don’t even make eye contact with the black “STAFF”…they keep it pushing…I had an admin have an experience where one alum told her…Such and such is not going to like the fact you didn’t make her aware that I was here” these same alum then turns around and their disposition is so obvisoly different with the Admin’s YT counter part…I straight up got a lump in my throat. IT hurt my feelings to the core.

    It pisses me off that so many of you on this post want to ask: WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ABOUT COLOR…”BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING”….etc etc etc….I call those statements BULLSHYT!!! and I would take a leap and say those posters expressing causual sentiment to an ongoing battle within our community are young and have not experiened enough to express themselves intelligently on this particular subject. You can’t speak on what you don’t know about. Sandra Rose broke down for a poster the idea of beauty and the fact that the example of our beauty is often represented by light skinned again ambiguoulsy racial looking women….I resented that she even had to explain that to this poster in this day and age…AGAIN!! to that poster I scream BULLSHYT that you are not aware of the truth.

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery….none but ourselves can free your minds”
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    Someone PLEASE explain the above statement to me as it relates to this post…

    BEcause if it means what I know it to mean…it is applicable to both sides of this argument…. to be free period!!! , one must have the determination to disallow others to dictate their self expression, their thoughts, and their beliefs…..

    It does not mean look the other way and pretend the systmatic.extra and intra racsism does not exisit….however I will point out to those of you who are using this statement: to rethink how you are intepreting it…because based on my knowledged and the above definition it is you that have the slave mentality. You are the ones not free…and you want to quite those of us who scream out about it.

  • OutsidetheBox

    I thought it (and the rest of us with some sense..) but you said it @gouch. :coffee:

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    This is a response from a black man to SLIM THUG posted on another blog site..sandra please don’t bann me but it’s relative.

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    Dear Slim Thug (And those that think like him):

    I’m not going to soften the blow of my letter by hurling witty insults at you or by presenting this letter in an indignant manner because I want the full weight of what I have to say to be felt; not just heard or read but felt. The Open Season that’s been going on against Black Women since the beginning of 2010 is over. No longer will she be the media’s doormat. It’s time that you and the people that think like you open your eyes to realize that the problem isn’t Black Women. I don’t want this to be about pointing fingers or placing blame; however the Black Woman is the last person that should be talked about when it comes to people getting their act together. For generations, Black Women have done nothing but get their act together. It’s time that the rest of us catch up.

    The media is quick to point out how single the Black Woman is. They are quick to tell you that 70% of Black Women have never been married or will never be married. She can’t find a man. Her standards are too high. She’s too strong willed, too aggressive. She needs to tone it down a notch. But all of that is wrong, maybe the Black Woman doesn’t need to tone it down a notch, maybe everyone else needs to raise it up a notch. Rather than telling her to descend, maybe we should concentrate on ascending and reaching higher levels. Higher levels of moral integrity, higher levels of education, higher levels of commitment, higher levels of testicular fortitude; maybe it’s time we rise to the level of the Black Woman rather than trying to lower her down to our level of mediocrity.

    In that letter, it was said that black women need to learn how to have their man’s back. But over the past 200 plus years in this country, whom more than the Black Woman has been a bigger supporter, nurturer and caretaker of Black Men than Black Women? When we have nothing, they are there. When we gain a few dollars to fold together, they’re there making sure the books are right. The Black Woman hasn’t turned her back on us, if anything; we’ve turned our back on them. An unfair representation was given of Black Women in that article because if we check the numbers, we’ll see that in higher numbers than Black Men, Black women are graduating from college, owning homes, owning small business, having better credit scores and climbing the corporate ladder. Now, if you don’t know any of these Black Women, maybe you should step outside of your comfort zone and look at the world a little differently. I will gladly introduce you to Black Women that are doing their thing, not waiting for a handout of some rapper or anyone else.

    The media is doing an excellent job of tearing down the Black Woman with the help of the Black Man; all while trying to earn her Black Dollars. It makes me wonder why we’ve never heard the other side of the argument, why we’ve never read an interview with a man that adores Black Women. That’s not to say that the Black Woman isn’t without fault because no one is perfect, however, while we’re all debating about what’s wrong with the Black Woman; she has her act together a little more than the rest of us right now.

    Signed,

    A Black Man/@DaWriter

  • http://oneperfectassistant.com ggouch

    Ok …slapping dust from my hands…now I’m done!!! going to see LAKERS kick off in some celtic ass!!!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    ggouch says:

    It does not mean look the other way and pretend the systmatic.extra and intra racsism does not exisit…

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    :clap: My mind is free enough to see that we as black women are rapidly vanishing from the television, movies and print media landscape. This weekend I was at Perimeter mall and I saw a huge ad for Tommy Hilfiger featuring a dark skin male model holding a biracial baby. No women anywhere in the ad.

  • Daisy

    @rene Everybodys situation is different. I have never had self esteem issues(thank the Lord) and I am brown skin in the fall/winter and dark in the summer 😆 However, everybody can’t say the same so I dont see what the problem is promoting self esteem for young black girls. I dont think it has anything to do with being free or not. I work with teens and we encourage/promote self esteem etc so these young girls will know they are indeed beautiful and smart.

    I can’t believe folks had something negative to say about Jadas POSITIVE comment SMH She doesnt have to speak for ALL women/latin or any other women gets something out of what she said then :clap: if not the world will keep right on going. I missed the memo that Jada and any other black women in the spotlight had to speak for all women vs black women. That doesnt make her or myself(cause I agree) a victim or what have you.

    I like M Basiden see COLOR and that is not a bad thing. Celebrate and acknowledge our differences NOT ignore them. We are all GODS children at the end of the day.

  • http://facebook.com/renz.renegadesince1985 renegadesince1985

    @GGouch

    That was a typo it’s “emancipate yourself from mental slavery; none but ourselves can free our minds” Bob Marley said that…..btw

    First of all…I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone on here…I don’t see anything wrong with what Jada said…soooo….

    If you would look further into the statement then you would realize how it applies here….My point is…YOU are the only person that decides how YOU feel about YOURSELF…no matter how much encouragement you get from outside sources, the power to be uplifted is ultimately within you. How that equates to looking the other way and pretending racism doesn’t exist…I don’t know…I know it’s here…I’ve experienced racism first hand.

    My statement had nothing to do with race really…I was just saying that women need to uplift themselves and don’t wait on somebody to make them feel better…. :shrugs:

    I’m glad I experienced the world as a child…I’ve had so many wonderful experiences with different cultures and races….I would hate to be so jaded in a black and white world.

  • Cinderella

    I’ve gone through most of the comments and I agree with Smokie and ggouch and others who saw nothing wrong with Jada’s comments. As a woman with brown skin and Natural hair, I like to see women who look like me represented in the media. Not for self-esteem, but because we are often times ignored by the mainstream and sometimes the Black community. I find nothing wrong in celebrating Black women and our unique beauty. Everywhere you turn, other races of women are being celebrated, why not us?

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    I’m late as usual but saw yall talking about this post all day on twitter and finally had the chance to sit down and try to read the comments but I just can’t tonight, maybe this weekend, but I just don’t have it in me to even try to get through 300+ comments especially when I’m getting annoyed, pissed off and sad at the state of some of our black women to even say some of what I’ve read so far. This is usually one of those comments I would reserve for other sites filled with young ignorant folks but some of you (not calling out names) need to take a step back, open your eyes and really look, maybe for the first time, at the world around you before you comment on certain topics. I’m with Man as far as the fact that I can’t stand Jada’s untalented know it all azz and I agree with Elove that being a male does not make you a man but that’s something for another day. The point of the matter is, that while the Black woman is one of the strongest, hard working, enduring, overcoming, intelligent, beautiful, loving persons walking the earth, we are also the most unappreciated, disrespected, disregarded, walked over, put down and constantly degraded. It starts in the schoolyard with the light skin/dark skin, good hair/nappy hair and continues as we age but expands to encompass weight, size, style of dress and a million and one other things that tell nothing about the person on the inside. We aren’t featured in SUCCESSFUL magazines, tv shows,or movies and when we are it’s in a way that feeds into the existing stereotypes or presents us as white with a little color and hair texture. Are there exceptions to every rule? Of course. Is that enough to let it go and not try to build up the black woman in media so that we can one day hopefully overcome the way we are seen by others? Hell no. Do I wish that I didn’t have to give my daughters an extra boost of self esteem each morning before they get out the car so that they know just how beautiful they truly are before they come in contact with the people who laugh at their hair, laugh at my 3rd graders breasts and booty(which she can’t control), and are several shades lighter then they are? You have no idea but I can’t. So kudos to yall who have never had to deal with being looked down at for being black and female. You should drop to your knees and thank God cause you are truly blessed.

    As far as the way we are portrayed in the media, I can’t control whether Vogue puts black women in their pages regularly, or if black women who don’t feed into stereotypes are featured on tv but I can control whether I support that garbage. Just like I can control whether I support artists who disrespect women or themselves in their lyrics. Until enough of us (black women and men) stand up and demand change the way black women are regarded in society will remain just as low and we will continue to need people like Jada (as much as I dislike her) to speak up in magazines, on tv and whereever else she sees fit to announce the beauty of the black woman. I know I’m not ugly, fat, ghetto, gold digging, a baby mama, ignorant or none of the other things that people assume black women are. I’m not a bi*ch or a h*e, I know this without anyone telling me that BUT so many women don’t. So how can anyone read what she said and turn it negative or say you’re sick of people trying to build us up in magazines or focusing on how beautiful we are? Hell somebody has to do it cause we have too many women thinking they aren’t worth shit continuously feeding into the bullshit this society and country feeds them and passing their low self esteem and issues onto their daughters continuing a cycle of women who will accept and do anything just for a lil attention and cash cause they don’t know their own self worth after years of being beaten down and told they aren’t worth shit. Just because the racism isn’t dead in your face doesn’t mean it’s gone. Open your eyes a little bit wider and you’ll see it hiding in plain view. Jada can keep talking when it’s about how beautiful and strong black women are and other black celebrities need to start speaking up as well. Black women who aren’t famous need to start mentoring those they know with self esteem issues (cause we all know at least one person), working in our communities and taking a united stand against the bullshit the industry feeds us which is further destroying our image and then maybe Jada and others wont have to speak up about our beauty because everyone else including ourselves will be able to see it. Sorry for the essay, I’m off to bed now, it’s been a long long long day

  • MandaPanda0408

    @ Ms.Everything :preach: You said exactly what was on my mind!!! and @FreetoSpeakMyMind, I think you are far too passive, I :pray: you wake up I’m not hating on you, I just think you may have never experienced direct racism and may be unwittingly looking over indirect racism, ignorance is not bliss and you seem very ignorant to the world around you. I agree we should always push ahead, but never forget from where we came, what we had to do to get here, and how much farther we must go.

  • cheeks8683

    I did not go thru all the comments from yesterday but I found a great response from Marc Lamont Hill regarding Slim Thugs foolishness. Here is an excerpt (he made some ood points):

    In your interview, you talk about how much better white women treat their partners than black women. If what you’re saying is true, why do Whites have the highest divorce rate of any group? Do white men get tired of being treated like kings? In reality, it seems that you are buying into (and selling) a stale but dangerous ideal that constructs White women as ultra-feminine, loving, queens, and Black women as angry, selfish, and untrustworthy hoes.

    Even more disturbing was your comment that “Black women gotta start being down for their man more.” Since slavery, Black women have had to withstand rape, torture, and humiliation (from both white and black men) in order to sustain their families. Now, in 2010, 1 in 3 Black men between 20 and 29 years old are incarcerated or otherwise under criminal supervision. Every day, Black women are raising children without men in the house, working multiple jobs (for less pay!), and supporting brothers as they finish their prison bids.

    With Black male unemployment as high as 50 percent in some cities, sisters are often holding down households without child support or other financial assistance. Black female incarceration rates are skyrocketing, partly because Black women are “riding” for their men, hiding guns and drugs, operating as mules, and refusing to snitch to authorities. In addition, Black women are the group most likely to be victims of domestic violence and the least likely to be married. Still, in spite of all this bad news, Black women are less likely to date outside their race than Black men.

    How much more “down” do you want Black women to be?

  • http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

    Thanks @ MandaPanda and Cheeks that’s a great excerpt. Where did you find it and did he have a response to that?