Bishop Eddie Long: ‘I Am Going to Vigorously Fight’ Sex Charges

Bishop Eddie Long, the embattled pastor of New Birth Missionary Church, addressed the growing church sex scandal that threatens to bring down his empire during a roisterous sermon this morning.

“The Bishop,” as he referred to himself, welcomed his church family and “all our other guests.”

“New Birth, we are not alone,” he told his congregation. “We must not forget our strength is not in man — it’s not in Eddie Long — but in the Lord!”

“For the sake of our visitors here today, we’re here every Sunday at 8 and 11,” he said to another round of applause.

Long then thanked his long suffering wife and their four grown children for their strength and support.

“I have never, ever portrayed myself as perfect, but I am not the person that they are portraying in the media! I’m not that. I’m not that,” he said.

“Out of advice of my lawyers… I am not gonna allow myself to be drawn into the court of public opinion. Because one day every knee got to bow, and every tongue got to confess, and everybody’s gotta give an account for themselves!,” he said. “I only, and my only hope is, is in the hands of the Lord, and my justice is to be given to me in a fair court of justice,” he stammered.

“As you know there have been accusations and attacks made against me, and I am going to vigorously fight all of ‘em!,” he told the parishioners as they stood and cheered. “I feel like Goliath — David, rather — facing Goliath. There’s a giant in front of me. But I am going to fight, and I’m gonna fight vigorously! And I got five rocks and I haven’t thrown one yet!,” said Long as he lay down his mic and strode off the podium to thunderous applause.

Not once did he deny the charges in lawsuits brought against him by 4 former Longfellow Academy students who accuse Long of coercion by plying them with cash, cars, gifts and exotic trips in return for sex..

Afterwards, Long held a press conference but he didn’t take any questions from the media.

The bishop’s long suffering wife, Vanessa Long, accompanied him to the pulpit.

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Bernice King, daughter of Martin Luther King Jr. spoke at the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church this morning.

A four lane road becomes a one-way street as thousands of church members leave New Birth Missionary Baptist Church after Sunday services this morning in Lithonia, a suburb east of Atlanta. The massive complex, which holds 25,000 and includes a fitness center, sits on 400 sprawling acres.

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157 Responses to “Bishop Eddie Long: ‘I Am Going to Vigorously Fight’ Sex Charges”

  1. 1

    Hmm that line up killin me softly! I’m done!

  2. 2
    dlamonte says:

    I can’t wait til this ALL unfold in the court! Everybody want the truth Nd nothin but the truth!

  3. 3
    mzloud says:

    Im speechless….. He never denied anything.. True enough. He doesnt owe MAN any explaination but sheesh….. This is becoming a bit too much.. Something just isnt right about the entire situation.. Not saying that he did it .. But something just aint right…Praying for the entire church family and the accusers…. SN: What is up with his hair?? :nono:

  4. 4
    Dr.GiGi says:

    I like his attire choice for this morning. I wonder if he was advised to burn all remaining muscle shirts? He is going to have to rebuild his image regardless of the outcome. Unfortunately people don’t wait for a court of law decision anymore…

  5. 5
    ryand91 says:

    I’m not going to trust a pastor reading his sermon off of an iPad. I’m sorry.

  6. 6
    tintin1979 says:

    reading off an ipad. corny….~~~~!!!
    at least he didn’t step down, that would be like an admission of guilt.
    what’s with the jeri curl

  7. 7
    bigtyme says:

    is that a wig or toupe’?!?

  8. 8
    ryand91 says:

    @bigtyme, a bad ass S-curl

  9. 9
    dlamonte says:

    And since :newbie: could someone please tell me the directions of gettin a gravatar!

  10. 10
    ryand91 says:

    @dlamonte go to this website wwww.gravatar.com it’s pretty self-explanatory from there use the e-mail address you used for your SR account.

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    dlamonte says:

    thx @ryand91 i think i did it right!

  12. 12
    TruGemini says:

    I’m sorry but I just can’t get past that hair…DAYUM Eddie, I know you can do betta than that… :blink:

  13. 13
    nia says:

    People are still going to following him. :no: It’s really a shame because they are worshiping MAN and not GOD.

  14. 14

    I’m sorry but he just looks like a fierce queen to me like , every morning he practices giving face on the mirror. And ugh at that process.

  15. 15
    dani818 says:

    There are so many that are quick to judge. I wasn’t there when he allegedly committed these acts and neither was anyone else besides the “victims” and God. So if he did he will have to answer to God.

  16. 16
    Redeemed777 says:

    Come to think about it, there is this dude that I work with, and he goes to eddie long’s cult-church: he asked me what I think about Ipads. NO WONDER.

    eddie been using the Ipad all this time, and I’m pretty sure the dude I work with questioned this in his heart.

  17. 17
    nursedawn03 says:

    @ Ryand, I was thinking the same thing. I know this is 2010, but an iPad really! Hope there’s no more pics up there.

  18. 18
    Redeemed777 says:

    eddie long chose to be a bishop, now let’s see what the Bible says about that:

    This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

    A bishop then MUST BE BLAMELESS, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

    Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy LUCRE; but patient, not a brawler, NOT COVETOUS;

    One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    NOT A NOVICE, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    MOREOVER HE MUST HAVE A GOOD REPORT OF THEM WHICH ARE WITHOUT; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

    Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not GREEDY OF FILTHY LUCRE;
    Holding the mystery of the faith in a PURE CONSCIENCE.

    And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, BEING FOUND BLAMELESS

    1 Timothy 3:1-10

  19. 19
    Redeemed777 says:

    @dani818

    …….you said there are so ( MANY ) that are quick to judge;

    the Bible says there are so ( MANY ) that will be deceived by these false prophets.

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    MissGauzzz says:

    Ya’ll talkin’ about that tragic lace front wig, look at the vacant look in his eyes in the pic where he’s huggin’ that dude! his eyes just look glossed over like he sedated or something! his body language gives of the vibe that he’s hiding something. :no:

    yes, people will continue to follow him. nothing is going to happen to his ministry. yeah there may be a few folks that roll out but it won’t be in droves. WE as a people are very forgiving so IF he did something not so right, he will be forgiven by the masses. i have been commenting on this all weekend. it’s a sad state of affairs it really is! but he has a cult like following, i saw that by the brief clips i saw of how he was received by his congregation this morning. this man could be a serial killer and they still would follow him! wow… that’s a lot of power to give to a flesh and blood human being! :no:

  21. 21
    ryand91 says:

    I’m so against all of those megachurches, they’ve all gotten away from the word of God. Why does it take a stadium to reach the masses?

  22. 22
    sugar.honey.iced.tea says:

    His hair is juicy. :/

  23. 23
    sugar.honey.iced.tea says:

    @ Msgauzzz

    I noticed that look in his eyes too…something isn’t right. I wanna know how those folks can still cheer this man on after seeing those picture texts with the bishop doing his ‘sexy poses’. No heterosexual man would send another man those pics in my opinion.

  24. 24

    He never said he didn’t do anything with the young men. He said he wasn’t perfect, he was hurt by the allegations and that he was going to fight the case….Interesting….

  25. 25

    When I saw Bishop speak I just wanted to sing “Just let yo soul glo, it’s all so silky smooth, just let it shine through, yeah, let your souuuul glo baby ohh” Let yo soul glo Eddie Long.. U is under attack with to much curl juice.. Eddie jumped sharp on you ho’s, got his curl freshly did up for the haters, dropped the mic as he exited saying.. Kiss the pinky ring nukka’s.. U don’t even suck dyck that good for all this drama… I’m on some new shyt.. don’t get mad… Told you I was leaving.. Deuces…

  26. 26
    SuthernBelle4 says:

    “A friend once said, which I found to be true, that everyday people-they lie to God too. So what’s make you think that they won’t lie to youuuu?” :whistle:
    I just pray that the members of the church have discernment, because in no way shape of form did he deny the allegations.

  27. 27
    dlamonte says:

    @20 yea your right in the first pic he look giv off that look of guilt like damn its going to be something when they find out all of this is the truth!

  28. 28

    Sandra how are you? As you know I am now in Canada 3 years now. I have only been to New Birth once. For Sunday and could never return there. Both Eddie Long and Dollar’s churches are social clubs to go network, meet celebs and take pics and that’s exactly what I saw there. The man is possibly gay on the down low and so are many of these worshippers. Listen Sandra, I hear ATL is a modern day Babylon now. What the HELL????????? Is going on there??? Sodom and Gommorah zip codes everywhere! Even Usher is GAY! They all look gay to me. Trey Songz etc.

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    dani818 says:

    @Redeemed777 You’re right about that. I don’t know him personally, never been to his church so I won’t act like I know him and say he did these things. We all have to answer to God and he will have to explain his actions to God.

  30. 30
    kwall says:

    where does one find a jheri curled piece?

    i already know ATL is the hair capital of the world tho. that place down by the waffle house at the underground is the bizomb! word.

    well **** tracy aka **** long…did not confess or step down. now what?

  31. 31
    kwall says:

    is that a wig or toupe
    ———————————
    bofffffffffffff

  32. 32
    Redeemed777 says:

    @dani818

    The Bible is always right on point!

  33. 33
    nia says:

    LMAO @ Ashland’s AlleGAYtions Swirl Bishop Eddie Long

    That’s HILARIOUS!

  34. 34
    So What says:

    Message to: EDDIE LONG
    Bump what your lawyers have advised. If you are innocent proclaim that to your followers. He is scared to be held to his words in court. He would have really been a man, if he spoke up and admitted his wrong doings and asked for help and forgiveness.

  35. 35
    Daisy says:

    I didnt have a problem with the IPAD :shrug: I see people on their Iphones and blackberrys when its time for scripture in church. I visit a church some Sun when I dont feel like driving to my church and I noticed the Pastor started using an Ipad as well as his bible a few wks back.

    I am still netural but believe something inappropriate happened I am just not sure to what extent.

    Yes, we all have to give an account for those who believe such but we also have rules/laws of the land to follow and answer to down here as well.

    Bishop said he was innocent in his own way when he said I am not that man BUT even if he said I am INNOCENT that doesnt mean that he is. Ted Haggard said he was innocent when he was hit with his homosexual scandel then later confessed #justsaying. I think people would have something to say regardless of what he stood up and said today.

    Still :pray: for all involved and that the TRUTH comes out although I doubt it ever will.

  36. 36
    whatdoesitmatter says:

    I know this is a serious situation but what the heck is going on with his head? Good grief!!!!!!

  37. 37
    Daisy says:

    Forgot to add that I am not a fan of mega churches per se but I dont knock them, they just arent my cup of tea. I know somebody that was a memeber of New Birth back when they only had 300-400 people she never thought the church would grow to the size it is today. Shady Pastors can Pastor anywhere not just megachurches. In my small hometown the Pastor of a church lives in a million dollar house in a country club (he already lived there before he was brought on as Pastor) anyway when it was time to go back to school a few mths ago he told his church that his sons needed new school clothes and took up a special offering for such :nono: I wish my Pastor would #chileplease

  38. 38
    nia says:

    THE CHURCH has become a BUSINESS, and people are not folowing the word instead they are following THE MAN.

    My sister says she doesn’t follow the minister she follows his message. I, on the other hand, am skeptical about the message coming from some who doesn’t seem honest and trustworthy. HOW many churches are there on one block? How many denominations have come forth? There are false prophets out there and people need to open their eyes and ears.

    I don’t see a need to dress up in an expensive suit-with matching alligator shoes to go with the outfit-FOR A PREACHER TO DELIVER THE WORD of GOD. There are broke people paying tithes to churches such as Mr. Long’s and the money is going right into pockets and lavish life styles.

    Eddie Long, from what I’ve seen because I don’t know him, has become AN IMAGE. He is well put together on Sundays, but is all that necessary to deliver a message…I mean an IPAD?????….come on!.

  39. 39
    lisa says:

    For me, the # 1 clue to a person’s guilt is when they don’t deny it. Because of his “celebrity” status he can hide behind the “my attorney’s advised” blah blah blah bull shizzzzzzz. When the allegations first surfaced anyone who is 100% innocent would have been screaming it from the roof tops over/through attorneys and all; particularly because of the type of allegations. Instead he’s been coming up with a game plan and or strategy and those are not the actions of an innocent man. Even with the 4 accusers and the photos Long will always have supporters who will rationalize it all away; human nature. Lastly, Bernstein is not an amateur and her releasing the photos was her way of saying “I am not blowing smoke.” I have a feeling that the text messages and emails will be more damning than the photos.

  40. 40
    Redeemed777 says:

    That church building needs to be destroyed. That building is dedicated to baphomet, hence the baphomet hidden logo that is supposed to be the church logo.

    And if any anyone of those boys just happen to have a freak accident like committing suicide, or overdosing on some drugs, I will definitely know that he had them killed.

  41. 41

    The look in his eyes is one of betrayal and defeat imo. He looks as if he never imagined people turning against him. But if innocent I can’t imagine his legal team saying don’t proclaim your innocence. You can do that without giving up any details. He should’ve have gave this speech (cause it was not a semon and I can only hope that an actual one was given today) and stepped down. It may have caused him to look guilty but he cannot guide, teach and tend to church business with this over his head. He should’ve announced that he will be allowing Minister XYZ to take over his leadership duties while he battles this in court and most would’ve thought nothing of his decision. To not do so is prideful and selfish to his members who don’t deserve to be subjected to a media circus each Sunday

    As far as the iPad many preachers and churches embrace technology. Sermons are written in advance so I see nothing wrong with that. He could’ve typed his sermon and uploaded it to his iPad before service. Its actually more convenient for editing than standard pen and paper plus there are a lot of biblical and religious apps. I have the bible on my phone and if I forget my bible at home I will whip my phone out in a second to read passages and take notes. :shrugs: that’s just a sign of the times and not a big deal imo… every preacher has notes at the pulpit, this is no different.

  42. 42
    Daisy says:

    @mseverything we are >>>>>>>>>>>>here<<<<<<<<< about the Ipad didnt bother me either and right most Preachers have handwritten notes as well. :waves:

  43. 43
    speechman0512 says:

    did anybody see the new pics of eddie long in his office @ atlantic station

  44. 44

    Lol Daisy exactly. I think people expect all pastors to be computer illiterate and anti technology. Pretty soon it’ll be common practice, if not with iPads than laptops. :shrugs:

  45. 45
    pointhimout says:

    where’s the sex tape cuz im tired of phuckin around wit bishop. and where yo bible at, the traditional one. if you gone keep up with joneses at least upgrade ur line of lacefronts. and go auburn/bronze/blonde, that deep negro colored hair at 65 is killing me.

    guilty.

  46. 46
    Redeemed777 says:

    ……Oh by the way, there are NEW pics of eddie at his Atlantic Station Penthouse. He is posed with some suspect looking boys. LoL!

  47. 47

    @Nia lol thanks for checking out my blog! lol

  48. 48
    Jerrica says:

    This is just sad. It’s also sad that ONE PASTOR can turn away people from God. Just because MAN let you down doesn’t mean GOD will let you down. Don’t put all pastors into one category. I know many pastors, my grandfather being one of them that doesn’t take money from the church. Most pastors get a salary my grandfather doesn’t because this is something he loves to do and he wants to get Gods word out. The ipad didn’t bother me either, I use my G1 for my bible and I know my uncle uses his iphone.

  49. 49
    jay Bee says:

    What he said today could have been said when the allegations first broke… Im a woman of God and we are not to Judge but ummmm come nah,, let us pray, my opinion is , he had inappropriate relations I work in this field and deal with perps all day everyday and his actions/responses/body language is SIMILIAR to perps that are indicated on inappropriate relations

  50. 50
    Jerrica says:

    Not all pastors use Ipad and Iphone though. My grandpa is old school he uses his bible and hand written notes. Lol. It is common for the “younger” pastors to use the new technology.

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    MissGauzzz says:

    @Redeemed777… :blink: new pictures… :blink: are you serious!

  52. 52
    Daisy says:

    Going to let google be my friend to find these new pics of BEL

    @Jerica I agree not all Pastors are shady and some dont have an offical salary they just have love offering enevlopes

  53. 53
    jay Bee says:

    hey ppl dont lose focus, When u are called to be a bishop u take on a lot… those that choose to follow this man after the truth is out and me believing the truth will be that LONG was inappropriate..LOng will be the one with the congregations blood on his hands, Long is the head of a MAS of people and thats a big responsibilty, Forgivness is good

    And also one more thang, watching CNN yesterday when the 3 members of the church were bein interviewed..WOW how gulliabe they appeared! we have to remember that things that are done in the dark the plan is to leave it in the dark… just because someone did good for the community and your friends doen’t mean they dont have shortcomins Kids are being abused everyday and do u think a perp want to get caught…NO

  54. 54
    attorneymom says:

    Character Corner Radio in partnership with Pink Cotton Entertainment presents: WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE Part II: REACTION TO BISHOP EDDIE LONG’S PUBLIC ADDRESS OF SEX SCANDAL

    Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010
    Time: 7:30 PM (EST)
    Place: Blogtalkradio
    Call-in Number: (347) 989-0587
    Click here to listen to the show and participate in the chatroom.

    We will discuss reactions to Bishop Eddie Long’s public address of sexual misconduct allegations against him brought by former members of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.

  55. 55
    lisa says:

    I just saw the atlantic station pics and under normal circumstances I wouldn’t give them a seconds thought but because of the dynamics and circumstances of all of this, it’s not a good look…….did Bernstein release those pics?

  56. 56
    MissGauzzz says:

    @lisa.. where did u see tem at?

  57. 57
    attorneymom says:

    @Sandra Thanks for the pictures and the video. I jacked them for my blog. :-)

  58. 58
    attorneymom says:

    Sidebar: Bernice King, daughter of Martin Luther King Jr. raised the offering. She is on staff at New Birth.

  59. 59
    lisa says:

    MissGauzzz…..freddyo dot com

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    speechman0512 says:

    @ miss you can look @ the pics @ hiphopblog.com

  61. 61
    lisa says:

    I just read that a man will be coming forward with a Long sextape but considering the source (****)……that remains to be seen.

  62. 62
    MissGauzzz says:

    @lisa and @speech! thanks ladies! :D

  63. 63
    MissGauzzz says:

    :blink: O My Freakin’ Goodness… :no: those pictures look real damm suspect!!! *sigh* i just can’t!

  64. 64
    speechman0512 says:

    SIDENOTE :D uring the second service, however, one young man in a blue shirt stood up and shouted: “We want to know the truth, man!” He was quickly escorted out and did not return.

  65. 65
    Jerrica says:

    Speechman0512
    SIDENOTE uring the second service, however, one young man in a blue shirt stood up and shouted: “We want to know the truth, man!” He was quickly escorted out and did not return.
    ***************************************************************

    Are you serious??? Wow, they ain’t playing huh?

  66. 66
    MissGauzzz says:

    @speech… :blink: every time i say i’m gonna quit commenting on this i read some new shyt! i bet they took that young man out and hog tied his azz! :no:

  67. 67
    intensemocha says:

    NOT SURE WHAT TO BELIEVE IN THIS SITUATION BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I’M TIRED OF NICCAS!!!!!!! FOR REAL-FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES, WHY JUST A CIVIL CASE?!?!?!

    NICCAS THRIVE OFF OF TEARING DOWN ANOTHER’S CHARACTER WITH THEIR SO CALLED TRUTHS, WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL THE TRUTH WHILE YOU HAD YOUR HAND OUT RECEIVING THIS SO CALLED PREDATORS GIFTS OR WHILE THERE WAS SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE TO SOLIDIFY YOUR CLAIMS/SEMEN, CONDOMS, ANYTHING???

    JUST MESSY ALL THE WAY AROUND-NO VICTIMS HERE JUST OPPORTUNISTS!!!!!

    AND NO I’M NOT DEFENDING THIS MAN,HELL I DON’T KNOW HIM OR WHAT HE’S CAPABLE OF-BUT HIS ACCUSERS ARE FAR FROM SAINTS IS ALL I’M SAYING

    TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE OF SCANDAL YOU HAD TO BE SCANDALOUS TO BEGIN WITH-JUST NAAAAAAZZZZZZZTY!!!!!

  68. 68
    Jerrica says:

    I just looked at the pictures, I don’t see anything wrong with them? Maybe I need to look again and study them.

  69. 69
    lisa says:

    speechman0512 says:
    SIDENOTE uring the second service, however, one young man in a blue shirt stood up and shouted: “We want to know the truth, man!” He was quickly escorted out and did not return.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    WOW!

  70. 70
    KrayZKat says:

    I’m sure somewhere in the various threads about this tragedy, someone has brought this up so forgive me for repeating. This whole incident makes me think that as parents, we have to be on our P’s and Q’s regarding our children. Didn’t any of these parents have red flags and bells and whistles going off all over the place when these boys were receiving expensive gifts and taking trips with a man alone in other countries. Something stinks about this whole situation. I’m not trying to blame the parents of the boys, but it seems we need to keep our eyes OPEN for suspicious activities. Better yet, it almost makes you not want to trust anyone even men/women of the cloth. SMH.

  71. 71
    KrayZKat says:

    *alone to other countries*

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    attorneymom says:

    KrayZKat says, “Didn’t any of these parents have red flags and bells and whistles going off all over the place when these boys were receiving expensive gifts and taking trips with a man alone in other countries.”

    ************************************

    You better preach!

  73. 73
    KrayZKat says:

    @Jerrica – I didn’t see anything suspicous either. :shrug:

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    pointhimout says:

    pinkradio, i dont know where yall going from here cuz he aint address anything. can someone get SR to post the pics of his atlantic station penthouse. the link i found shows those pesky red x’s.

  75. 75
    intensemocha says:

    HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS NEARING ADULTHOOD

    SO ONE IS TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE COERCED INTO GAY SEX, AND THEY WEREN’T ALREADY GAY, THEN FORCED INTO PROSTITUTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, EXCHANGING SEX AND SEXUAL FAVORS FOR MONEY/GIFTS???? ALL BY THE INFLUENCE OF THIS MAN????? ACTIVITY THEY WEREN’T ACCUSTOMED TO NOR EXPOSED TO BEFORE HIM?????

    GTFOH-WHERE I’M FROM YOUNG MEN ARE TRICKING AS A FORM OF SURVIVAL/EMPLOYMENT THEIR FUGGIN ANYTHING/ANYBODY WHOSE WILLING TO PAY

    IF THESE WERE CHILDREN WHO HE MOLESTED IN THE CLASSROOM/PLAYGROUND/IN TH CHURCH BASEMENT-YES BY ALL MEANS HE IS A PREDATOR

    BUT YOUNG MEN OVER THE AGE OF SIXTEEN WHO WILLINGLY ARE TRAVELING WITH HIM, STAYING IN THE SAME HOTEL ROOM, AND WHO ACCEPT GIFTS/MONEY ETC. INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE POLICE/THEIR PARENTS, ETC.

    I AIN’T BUYING IT-VICTIMS DON’T BEHAVE LIKE THAT

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    nursedawn03 says:

    As for my comment about the iPad, I too have seen pastos refer to the them at the pulpit, just not walk around with and/or preach from it. Diff’rent strokes for diffrent folks, I guess, it just put me off a little. The whole situation is messy as hell and I understand that he doesnt owe an explanation or does he? I thought that we were all accountable for our actions. I also believe that if it true,more ppl knew,a person in his position would have help to cover such a scandal…guess time will tell.

    oh yeah:newbie:

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    intensemocha says:

    MORE THAN LIKELY EVERYONE INVOLVED KNEW WHAT TIME IT WAS, INCLUDING THE PARENTS

    BUT IT WAS ALL GOOD AS LONG AS THE MONEY/GIFTS KEPT COMING

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    KrayZKat says:

    @AM – something just isn’t right!

    @Intense – the issue to me is he was in a position of power. These boys (children or young men, whichever you prefer. Personally, even though in GA 16 is the age of consent, they are still children to me and whether they gave their consent or not, a pastor – a married one at that – should not be engaging in these kinds of activities). They were under his teaching. Whether they agreed or not isn’t the issue per se. Like I mentioned several days ago – abuse between teachers/students – even if students are old enough to “know better,” or between parents/children – men who molest their children even though the child is “of age” and so and and so forth use their positions to manipulate their victims. Even grown people can be dupped.

    I mean, if their parents didn’t see something was wrong, why would they? They probably got caught up in the money, bright lights, etc. – you know those things that draw so many of us in.

    That’s how I see it, but I respect other people’s opinions.

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    MissGauzzz says:

    @Intense… you sound like my BFF. she said she isn’t buying it either. she doesn’t feel like they’re victims. she said they are opportunists who got jealous when the 1st young man found out he wasn’t the only one.

    those penthouse pics look suspect to me. :shrugs: the ones with the young man with the waves bother me. the pose is a tad bit intimate. maybe i’m reading too much into it because of the allegations. i would take exception to my son sitting that close to a grown man that’s not his father. it doesn’t look right.

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    Jerrica says:

    KrayZKat: Thank you. How are you doing my P-Town sista? Lol

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    Run says:

    I said on and sandrose earlier post, he will not step down, and they cant make him he owns newbirth and his name…. he got it like that… and the people are so stupid they dont even know that they cant…..

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    Jerrica says:

    MissGauzzz: To me it looked like he just got close for the picture, then the other one looked like he was talking to someone on the side of the bishop. IDK? I’m going to look at them again. Lol

  83. 83
    MissGauzzz says:

    @Jerrica.. :D okay, girl! i’m probably trippin’ because of all the talk that’s all! it’s a lot to take in!

  84. 84
    Jerrica says:

    MissGauzzz: Hell yeah it is. If he did it, it will come out and there’s nothing he will be able to do about it.

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    Daisy says:

    @Intense I hear where you are coming from and I am on the fence regarding that aspect of the case. On one hand Bishop started the relationship with these young men when they are 14-15 I believe he was building their trust or what have you and he knew the law and made sure he could NOT be charged with any criminal charges. I do feel that there is a difference between the young men in this age group vs the young boys the Priest have been accused of molesting. I believe in his position of power he may have used it for evil if you will and the young men claim they are not gay (I know I know I know). I dont think they are being messy because IF the accusations are TRUE then it could STOP other victims from being abused/used/caught up etc. As far as them traveling with him alot of churches take kids on missions trips or travel I know my church does but we are more worried about the teens having sex with each other vs one of the leaders messing with a child.

    There are so many unanswered questions surronding this case I can’t call it but I wont turn on the alleged victims just yet either.

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    Daisy says:

    Victims or not IF true I am glad they came forward regardless of the reason(s)

    I dont think the new set of pics show anything but suspect looking young men chilling with their Pastor (if they are New Birth members).

    @Run I believe the people of New Birth know they cant force Bishop Long to step down nor do they want him to anyway.

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    KrayZKat says:

    @Jerrica – Hey girl! Your P-town sista is doing good today in spite of the rain and all. How are you doing, sweetie?

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    I don’t want to see the new pictures but I just read on cnn that during the sermon he compared this to natural disasters including Katrina… in my eyes that’s going too far. Let’s say he was just too friendly with these boys, a man in his position should know better than to put himself out there like that. I’m not famous nor do I hold a position of power, but I don’t allow myself to share a room with young people unsupervised, nor do I send pictures of myself to youth or anything of that nature. The mothers were likely blinded by the fact that this man wanted to take on a fatherly role in their sons lives and accepted it without question. For the boys this was likely a once in a lifetime opportunity with the gifts, the trips and the tuition. Criminal charges can not be filed without a crime and since these boys were over the age of consent no crime has been committed (unless he was writing the gifts,payments,cars and trips off as charity which may be why BJ said she will be alerting the feds). My old pastor set up the church office with female relatives so that there is always a witness to his meetings and who comes and goes to avoid rumors and allegations about his behavior. When I met with my new pastor he made sure his wife was present, I can’t imagine that a man in Eddies position did not know to always cover himself for protection… that makes me raise eyebrows at him even if he is innocent, he allowed this to happen. Where was his wife while all this was going on? Most first ladys travel with their husbands and his kids are and were old enough to be without their parents for a few days. There’s just so many questions here and the information out now is too damaging for him to say basically nothing towards his defense. He is protecting himself from being called a liar in the end or from contradicting himself later

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    cheeks8683 says:

    :shrug: thats all I got for this….With his edge-scurl (edge-up s-curl)on his head…

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    KrayZKat says:

    Don’t you guys think BEL should step down? Personally, my opinion only, I think for the sake of the church and all those affected by this scandal, he SHOULD step down until his innocence is proven.

    In many churches, they have a board, and that board runs the show so to speak. I guess that’s not how NB works, huh. I just couldn’t sit under a pastor under these kinds of allegations unless I KNEW he wasn’t guilty, but that’s just me. I guess people have to follow their own heart.

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    KrayZKat says:

    @Ms. Everything – I agree. You know, even a OB/GYN when performing an exam has a nurse in the room (at least at my clinic) just in case some woman decides to accuse him of something foul.

    Most male counselors, in churches I’ve attended ALWAYS, have another person in the counseling room if they are counseling someone from the opposite sex for the very reason you mentioned.

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    Daisy says:

    @mseverything Bishop Long and his wife are always traveling all over the US and world serving/preaching etc so I am sure she was doing her thing and he was doing his. I believe the trips these young men went on with him were part of a boys mentoring program so I doubt she attended. He has helped so many people him doing for these young (so they have said) more than likely didnt raise an eyebrow for her. For all we know they could have a marriage in name and apperance only you never know :shrug:

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    Daisy says:

    @Krazy my FEMALE OB/GYN has a nurse in the room with her during the exam and I have a female pastor and she is never left alone male/female there is always somebody in every meeting with her as a witness.

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    KrayZKat says:

    @Daisy – see, that’s what I’m talking about. :yes:

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    ELove says:

    I LAUGHED So F-ing Hard watching this BUT they were kicking Real Shyt :yes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5jpqQOY9Z0&feature=player_embedded

    @Ms. Everything
    THIS is JUST MY OPINION but ANYBODY that reads from a script of ANY KIND when talking about something that is SUPPOSE to be from the heart CAN’T BE TRUSTED !!! Technology shouldn’t overtake Common Sense & Common Decency which IMO is never Out-Dated or Obsolete… REAL People don’t respect Speech-Written speaking individuals but they do RESPECT Truth-n-Honesty that comes from that individuals Heart & Mind :yes:

    AGAIN… This is JUST MY OPINION (Real…)

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    Jerrica says:

    KrayZKay: I”m good. This weather is stupid as hell. Yesterday was all beautiful and hot and now all this rain; but this is what I love about Portland.

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    Jerrica says:

    Ms. Everything: You’re so right. ALL pastors should have someone with them at all times. The ushers makes my grandpa’s tea for when he preaches and male or female he either has me in there or my grandma, that’s one thing he doesn’t play with and that’s people lying, so he protects his self at all times.

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    Redeemed777 says:

    Testing
    Testing

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    pointhimout says:

    “We’re not just a church, we’re an international corporation,”. Eddie Long quote.

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    missmiami says:

    Hey there REDEEMED 777. BTW, SANDRA are you starting to think he is indeed guilty of some misconduct?????????

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    missmiami says:

    BTW, @ DAISY I concur with what you said ealier :) my pastor never counsels women without his wife being there and vice versa as it pertains to his wife. U gotta have common sense.

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    @Elove in my experience they write them down in order to have a guideline, topic to follow and stay on track to as well as to make sure they have the correct verses written down to refer back too and to stay within time constraints. Most pastors i know have a tendency to deviate from the script but still have their noted to get them back on track so while it may be written in advance they are still speaking from the heart. Plus pastors often recycle sermons (holiday ones and ones that particularly speak to people) and if they aren’t written down they can’t refer to them later. Because they’re from the heart no two sermons will be exactly the same but the basic idea, scripture, titles and what not will be. Not to mention those churches that use visual aides like powerpoint or have the main scriptures used written down in the program need their notes written in advance so that they can have those things complete before service. A sermon is a speech and all speechwriters and givers will admit to writing those things in advance. I respect your opinion but growing up with a pastor grandmother and growing up in the church I’ve seen how they work. It doesn’t take away from the message in my eyes though. You also have to remember that some ministers publish their sermons or distribute them for further study, share them with fellow ministers and things of that nature so they must be written in advance. Junior ministers also must typically have their sermon approved by the senior pastor before giving a sermon for the first time. Church services are spirit led but still should be professional in nature and essence and being prepared in that matter allows for that.

    I just got so disturbed on another site reading how many people were saying they would never go to another church because of scandals like this, trying to tell believers that they were stupid and followers, sheep for believing in the bible and saying that all Christians aren’t to be trusted because of things like this and titheing. This entire situation affects so many outside of New Birth and its really a shame… the devil is at work turning people away from the body of Christ due to this and I’m really praying that people are able to see through the propaganda and realize that Eddie does not reflect the millione of Christians striving to live life according to Gods will. All of this could’ve been avoided had those who were deceived known the bible for themselves

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    lexdiamonz says:

    skeeeweeee@ lisa

    and
    ryand91 says:

    I’m not going to trust a pastor reading his sermon off of an iPad. I’m sorry.

    :cosign:

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    attorneymom says:

    KrayZKat says, “Don’t you guys think BEL should step down? Personally, my opinion only, I think for the sake of the church.”
    ************************

    I think stepping down would be construed as an admission of guilt. Besides, he better make as much money as he can in the event he, New Birth and Longfellow have to pay damages. I know the legal bills will be high.

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    attorneymom says:

    @#Elove I laughed so hard I cried. LOL #forgiveme

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    KaraZ says:

    Did anyone’s pastor make comments in church yesterday about this? Particularly those in Atlanta? If they did, was it speaking for him? I don’t hear his peers coming to his defense like I thought they would. Eddie Long is not being backed by many of his peers in this. That speaks VOLUMES to me.

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    Nika405 says:

    Morning! :shocked: at the Jeri curl wig Eddie Longstoke is rocking. In an interview that came out in 07 Eddie Long declared he was the head of his church. He bragged about that and said he wasn’t tied to a church board and makes all the decisions. IMO that’s too much power without having to answer to someone. If this scandal doesn’t bankrupt him or New Birth I bet it will change the dynamics of who is in charge and making decisions.

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    iyonah says:

    Good morning! I heard about this on the news, haven’t been able to read much on the blogs, but I am sure these comments are going to be entertaining. :coffee: — > really peppermint tea
    #nocomment on the situation as a whole other than its sad when such alleghations are made and proven to be true, time will tell it.

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    lacountrygirl says:

    Now “The Bishop” know he is wrong for that lacefront.

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    lacountrygirl says:

    pointhimout says:

    “We’re not just a church, we’re an international corporation,”. Eddie Long quote.
    ____________________________

    See, that’s when you start stepping away from God. People need to focus on getting the Word out instead of making money. Why some people so people to believe and support any of these “bishops” at mega churches? Didn’t God say the meek shall inherit earth.

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    MissGauzzz says:

    @Elove… :dead: at that youtube clip!!!! OMGoodness!! I keep watchin’ it over and over… and I’m still fallin’ out laughing! the Queen doing all the talkin’ is very dramatic… but they are kickin’ the truth though!!! hilarious!!! :D

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    Daisy says:

    @karaz my pastor did not comment and I know her and BEL are friends because we are in their old church.

    Morning :coffee: <really water

    A pastor can have a bible and still not be preachin Gods word or living right. I don't get the issue w/the IPAD can somebody explain what the prob is? Do u think they are fake/flashy? What is it that I am missing? Thanks

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    iyonah says:

    ALLEGATIONS******** :dead: and gone at 70% of this comments. The comments on his hair style, the muscle pics and all otehr QUEEN tendencies :nono: yall a mess.

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    iyonah says:

    other*

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    I’m just mad he dropped the mic like he killed somebody in a freestyle battle…. :rofl:

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    KaraZ says:

    intensemocha says:

    NOT SURE WHAT TO BELIEVE IN THIS SITUATION BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I’M TIRED OF NICCAS!!!!!!! FOR REAL-FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES, WHY JUST A CIVIL CASE?!?!?!
    NICCAS THRIVE OFF OF TEARING DOWN ANOTHER’S CHARACTER WITH THEIR SO CALLED TRUTHS, WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL THE TRUTH WHILE YOU HAD YOUR HAND OUT RECEIVING THIS SO CALLED PREDATORS GIFTS OR WHILE THERE WAS SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE TO SOLIDIFY YOUR CLAIMS/SEMEN, CONDOMS, ANYTHING???
    JUST MESSY ALL THE WAY AROUND-NO VICTIMS HERE JUST OPPORTUNISTS!!!!!
    AND NO I’M NOT DEFENDING THIS MAN,HELL I DON’T KNOW HIM OR WHAT HE’S CAPABLE OF-BUT HIS ACCUSERS ARE FAR FROM SAINTS IS ALL I’M SAYING
    TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE OF SCANDAL YOU HAD TO BE SCANDALOUS TO BEGIN WITH-JUST NAAAAAAZZZZZZZTY!!!!!
    ——————————–

    Wow! Comments like this is how I know Eddie Long will eventually get past this and be even more careful about his next set of victims.

    According to the allegations, Eddie Long was your textbook case pedophile.
    1. He picked victims who were in some way “damaged” and easily influenced.
    2. He built trust with them by giving them love they weren’t getting from their absentee fathers.
    3. He not only said he loved them, he showed them love by reaffirming words, extravagant gifts, did things for them.
    4. He then isolated them (took one to New Zealand and the other to Kenya) when he first attacked/initiated them.
    5. Afterwards he explained the “rightness” of his attack in his case a spiritual bonding to his spiritual son.
    6. Then he continued to buy their silence with the gifts and justify his actions.

    Sometimes it takes years for even abused adults to come to terms with the abuse they experienced. They don’t come forward because of the shame, they feel they were complicit in their abuse and knowing that people will disbelieve and demonize them.

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    iyonah says:

    @daisy I don’t get the issue w/the IPAD can somebody explain what the prob is? — I think its modern, and its not an issue for a church of this size. If it was a small struggling church that would be different.

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    Mother Jefferson says:

    :dead: at this whole post

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    KaraZ says:

    @Daisy, my pastor asked us to read between the lines and said after prayerfully considering, talking to and being advised by church leadership in the US & reevaluating certain situations he (as a board member for a Pentecostal Christian association here) has severed certain relationships in the United States. All member churches of the association took the same stance here in Nigeria.

    Good afternoon chica! :coffee: –> actually an irish coffee… with more whiskey than coffee

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    Nika405 says:

    @Daisy there is no issue with the IPAD from me. When all those megachurch pastors from the 80′s were doing their dirt there wasn’t a big azz IBM computer to be blamed. I know a lot of ppl who use a bible app on their Iphones now.

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    lexdiamonz says:

    renegadesince1985 says:

    I’m just mad he dropped the mic like he killed somebody in a freestyle battle….

    :dead:

    he probably “bust” a rhyme on this him and TI was “freestyling” with tiny on the hook and usher moonwalking in the background…. where is redeemed to finish breaking this down and whomever said that fool had on a jeri curl lacefront :kona:

    :rofl:

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    lexdiamonz says:

    umm aunt sandy dont ban me forgot about your 2 emoticon limit

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    shannon04 says:

    @Elove..MissGauzzz….I watched it and I was laughing too. That dramadupree had me fallin out.

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    Nika405 says:

    :co-sign: KaraZ comment #116. I think he took the time to build uo their trust and told them it was ok with God. I bet he’s been doing this for a long time too.

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    KaraZ says:

    My pastor uses an IPAD now, which is much better than the bulky laptop he used to balance on the pulpit. He doesn’t walk around with it though and uses a bible when he’s reading verses. I don’t see anything wrong with integrating new technology in the church. I quite like the multimedia visuals used to illustrate a particular point in the sermon. The way some people are reacting you’d think it was called a “devil’s pad” or “mark of the beast tablet”

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    flyqtnva says:

    Did that nigga really put the mic down at the end and walk off….that was some funny ish right there :rofl:

    now let me read the comments :popcorn:

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    MissGauzzz says:

    @shannon04… :rofl: i know!!! dramadupree got the right name! :D i’m weak from laughin’!

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    Daisy says:

    @fly :waves:

    Sidenote my new hood jam is waka wale and roscoe no hands :dance:

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    Karaz the pastor of the church I went to didn’t specifically mention it but he preached the importance of reading your bible for yourself and making sure you know the word so that you can see through darkness and falsehoods as well as mentioned how the bible tells us about the false prophets and churches.

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    yvonne79 says:

    Good Morning Sandra et all……

    Generally, I don’t like to speculate about cases until all the evidence is presented. In watching this sermon/press conference yesterday, I couldn’t help but feel something just isn’t right. Maybe he didn’t do something sexually with all of these four boys however some inappropriate behavior (which he in a sense admitted to by placing that disclaimer about him not being perfect) or conduct unbecoming of a bishop did in fact take place. Although the Bishop states “he is under attack” and he is not the man the media is trying to protray, there HAS to be some truth to these statements. I simply cannot see four heterosexual men claiming they participated in homosexual acts with a bishop for the sake of extortion and/or fame. Regardless of the outcome, if Bishop’s found guilty or not guilty, I will continue to pray for him and his family, the victims and their families as well as the others who are directly impacted by this scandal. I couldn’t wish this situation on my worst enemy.

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    Oh and :cosign: on your comments… I think the iPad issue is just looking for something to find fault in or from those who maybe see it as an extravagance. Well be seeing more iPads, laptops and things of that nature as more younger pastors lead churches. Or perhaps when the notes are handwritten they aren’t as obvious so people don’t realize the pastor has notes at the pulpit but this way is obvious :shrugs: I’m more concerned with the fact that from the portions of the speech I read and saw he didn’t quote not one bible verse even though he brought up David and Goliath. I’m wary of pastors who don’t reenforce there sermons,speeches,prayers or things like that with the actual Word cause that’s how they’re able to deceive folks

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    lexdiamonz says:

    . “I feel like Goliath — David, rather — facing Goliath

    Freudian slip perhaps i dont see the big deal about the Ipad hell the “chuch” probably donated it to him

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    Al-Ameera says:

    KaraZ says:

    Wow! Comments like this is how I know Eddie Long will eventually get past this and be even more careful about his next set of victims.

    According to the allegations, Eddie Long was your textbook case pedophile.
    1. He picked victims who were in some way “damaged” and easily influenced.
    2. He built trust with them by giving them love they weren’t getting from their absentee fathers.
    3. He not only said he loved them, he showed them love by reaffirming words, extravagant gifts, did things for them.
    4. He then isolated them (took one to New Zealand and the other to Kenya) when he first attacked/initiated them.
    5. Afterwards he explained the “rightness” of his attack in his case a spiritual bonding to his spiritual son.
    6. Then he continued to buy their silence with the gifts and justify his actions.

    Sometimes it takes years for even abused adults to come to terms with the abuse they experienced. They don’t come forward because of the shame, they feel they were complicit in their abuse and knowing that people will disbelieve and demonize them.
    —————————-
    Exactly! I don’t know why people keep acting like they don’t know that victims of abuse ALWAYS have problems coming out about it, no matter the age and especially when it is something that is considered shameful.

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    KaraZ says:

    Ms. Everything says:
    I’m more concerned with the fact that from the portions of the speech I read and saw he didn’t quote not one bible verse even though he brought up David and Goliath. I’m wary of pastors who don’t reenforce there sermons,speeches,prayers or things like that with the actual Word cause that’s how they’re able to deceive folks

    —————

    Girl!!!!! Many of these new age profits & pastors scare me with their feel good only messages with no back up from the word. You can’t tell me you’re teaching me how to get to heaven, when you never refer to the only map that gives directions on how to get there.

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    MissGauzzz says:

    @Ms. Everything.. *waving* how u doing, chica! enjoyed our lively exchange of views this weekend! yeah you make a good point about the portions of his speech most of us saw not referencing any of the Word. It’s just sooo many unanswered questions with him. I normally watch his ministry on Sunday nights at 8:30 on TBN and I turned to it to see if they would broadcast his sermons and they did. They showed his 23rd anniversary clips and showcased everything he and the New Birth family do for the community. My girlfriend said that due to contractual constraints TBN probably wouldn’t pull showing his ministry sermons unless the situation grows worse and/or he’s proven to be guilty of the charges. :shrugs:

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    attorneymom says:

    Yes, Bishop Long should go on my SYAD/BlankStare List just for that possum on his head.

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    KaraZ says:

    oh for the record I now hate dramadupree for making me laugh so damn hard, he ain’t isht :rofl: and elove you know you’re wrong for sharing

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    flyqtnva says:

    what up daisy…im to weak…i cant do this today

    lol @ the freestyle battle comment yes! he was like what what what….

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    flyqtnva says:

    that nigga said he had 5 rocks and anit thrown one…WELL I THINK HE SHOULD HIT THEM ROCKS…instead of throwin em…he gonna need it..in these next few days

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    Daisy says:

    I believe he quoted a scripture from Psalms during his mini sermon but I could be wrong.

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    kimip84 says:

    KaraZ says:
    Wow! Comments like this is how I know Eddie Long will eventually get past this and be even more careful about his next set of victims.

    According to the allegations, Eddie Long was your textbook case pedophile.
    1. He picked victims who were in some way “damaged” and easily influenced.
    2. He built trust with them by giving them love they weren’t getting from their absentee fathers.
    3. He not only said he loved them, he showed them love by reaffirming words, extravagant gifts, did things for them.
    4. He then isolated them (took one to New Zealand and the other to Kenya) when he first attacked/initiated them.
    5. Afterwards he explained the “rightness” of his attack in his case a spiritual bonding to his spiritual son.
    6. Then he continued to buy their silence with the gifts and justify his actions.

    Sometimes it takes years for even abused adults to come to terms with the abuse they experienced. They don’t come forward because of the shame, they feel they were complicit in their abuse and knowing that people will disbelieve and demonize them
    ——————————————————————

    that is so true

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    intensemocha says:

    HE MAY BE GUILTY OF ADULTERY AND OF BEING A HYPOCRITE

    BUT DON’T CONFUSE PROSTITUTION WITH BEING A VICTIM-TWO WAY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS

    MANY OF YOU ARE HYPOCRITES ALSO-WHEN THE VIDEO SURFACED OF R KELLY AND THE GIRL HE PISSED ON, MANY OF YOU CALLED THAT CHILD A PROSTITUTE AND SAID SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING AND FELT LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR HER

    I’M NOT SAYING HE’S NOT GUILTY OF SOMETHING BUT ALL I’M SAYING IS HIS VICTIMS WERE MORE THAN LIKELY WILLING

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    intensemocha says:

    ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PRICE WAS RIGHT

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    ELove says:

    @Ms. Everything
    I THINK you missed my point… I WAS talking about his speech regarding addressing the allegations against HIM (Not the sermon) I GREW up in the church also AND was involved at every imaginable angle because of my Relatives involvement (I HAVE Ministers/Pastors within my family Too)

    I REMEMBER when Real Pastors would bring their bible with their book-markers and whatever passage high-lighted that they we’re going to include as part of their sermon and THAT WAS IT !!!

    No Prepared SPEECH or SCRIPT… Just THEIR Bible along with THEIR Knowledge & Wisdom that they we’re prepared to share with the congregation (Real…) :yes:

    And to EVERYONE that did check out the YouTube link…
    YESSSSSSSS It was VERY Funny & Entertaining w/ Real Shyt Knowledge :thumbsup:

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    ELove says:

    @KaraZ
    I was on RWS and one post had a link to a site that had THIS Video within their site… I JUST clicked on it being curious and ended up DYING FROM LAUGHTER (Real…) But they were kicking Real knowledge within their comedic delivery WHICH made it that much more entertaining to me :lol:

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    Phrozen1der says:

    I’m not GOD nor do I claim to be so this is the last thing I’m saying on this topic. Any INNOCENT man whether there is a lwayer advising him or not, when a subject of his MANHOOD comes into play or his orientation he is going to speak! The fact that he did not say I have done no wrong, and the trial will prove that, left me feeling that he’s more guilty than innocent. He’s probably ONLY fighting the coercion aspect of it, because these cats went voluntarily and performed willingly! :shrugs:

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    Nika405 says:

    @ Intense R Kelly is just as wrong IMO. I know for a fact he has sex with teenagers so I never rode for him. But just like he was forgiven by the masses so will the Bishop.

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    Elove then I apologize. I was half sleep reading and responding to you. I’ll scroll up and read again though my grandmother keeps a notebook with her sermon notes along with her bible.

    Karaz exactly. I hate that and will walk out of a church if they do it

    Hey Ms. Gauzz! I enjoyed it as well. And I agree about tbn

    Daisy. GM! I’m gonna see if I can find a full clip of the actual sermon

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    ELove says:

    @Ms. Everything
    I SEE how you could’ve took it that way because of my REFERENCE to the iPad thing :lol: My BAD…

    And the WHOLE Mega-Church and really the VAST Majority of churches nowadays are about MONEY (Not Sharing & Spreading THE WORD…) People who LUST FOR MONEY shouldn’t be Ministers & Pastors IMO

    JUST LIKE Teachers who aren’t REALLY Interested in teaching shouldn’t be teachers… OUR school systems NEEDS Truly Dedicated Teachers & Instructors (Real…)

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    Jerrica says:

    ELove
    I REMEMBER when Real Pastors would bring their bible with their book-markers and whatever passage high-lighted that they we’re going to include as part of their sermon and THAT WAS IT !!!
    **************************************************************
    :preach:

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    Val says:

    SO HE’S GETTING HIS JAMES CLEVLAND / TERRY HORNBUCKLE ON HUH? SMDH

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    lisa says:

    In my opinion, the young men WERE/ARE VICTIMS!!!! They were teenagers when this all began and while they may have been misguided and confused about things, (and I wonder why) they were indeed VICTIMS! Eddie Long is a grown azzzzzz man and I don’t care if one of the young men said “I will do this or I will do that for you if you give me this or give me that.” Granted, the reasons for them coming forward now could very well be out of spite but again that is irrelevant. The stealing and what not is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the price of tea in China because Long is/was the adult; instead Long took advantage of their immaturity, confusion and their longing for a father figure; PERIOD! This is about HIS actions as not just an adult but as a pastor who is in a position of great authority; still susceptible to sin, but one who is looked up to and trusted by so many. Pastors are still sinners; no doubt and are imperfect; no doubt but when they choose that path they know it comes with a greater responsibility. Is it fair? I don’t know but it is what it is.

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    kdillon says:

    He did it!

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    Run says:

    Some people need to read the scripture themselve and then make it understanding to them as what the bible is talking about , preachers get up there and quote a scripture and then explain what thay want you to feel the scriptutre is suppose to be saying and in no way does it mean what the Hell they are saying.. and the sad part is some of the preachers know what it say but know that most people will believe anything they say it means, if they tell you this is a cat and you know it is a rat, you will say YES LAWwwwD I SEE THE CAT ( SMH) and folks just get to shouting and clapping, and have no idea what you screaming and clapping for, he said ye worship but ye know no what…. truthfully when have you ever know anybody in the KJV bible say they was a Baptist, or any other so call religion these folks got to day,

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    afancybbw4u says:

    THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE SUPPORTING THIS GREEDY SOB..UNBELIEVABLE

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    Taboo01 says:

    Bishop long knows that this situation is getting out of control.This is not the first time these allegations have been made against him. I myself have had men of the cloth come on to me and make sexual advances…thank God those men weren’t from my church but who’s to say they don’t exist there. I agree with Bishop Long when he says that man’s faith shouldnt be placed in him. In the Bible it says that if you place your ultimate faith in man you are bound to failed…God expects your faith to be completely in him and maybe thats the lesson he’s trying to teach the members of new birth. Anything that is not of God in the church is supposed to be removed by the pastor…that is written…man shoulnt become so puffed up that they for get the initial design of the church. But when the pastor does godless things then that can only lead his congregation to believe that wicked deeds are okay. In the end bishop long is a man and is not exempt from judgement. These allegations are signs for the times that we’re are living in.

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    missmel says:

    ok – here’s my (late) 2 cents. i recall tom joyner saying something to that “…i would’ve beat me to the studio this morning….” meaning if EL didn’t do what is being alleged, why not say so? i agree with sugar.honey.iced.tea – the eyes tell the whole story> EL looks sad, remorseful (only for being caught), tired, and fearful (of what may lie ahead) and i pity mrs. vanessa who had to smile and walk hand in hand with EL. I am sure we will get her tell all one day. i also wondered about their kids? where were they? and are they supporting dad?
    and speaking of long suffering wives of ghey men – has anyone noticed that the black rho-dc husband and mel b’s/it’s a scary world husband are one in the same? well, not really but they really favor one another in more ways than one, lol.

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