Ben Carson

Dr. Ben Carson, who is contemplating making a run for president in 2016, has taken sides in the controversy over the termination of Baltimore Ravens star running back Ray Rice.

In an interview with Newsmax TV’s “The Steve Malzberg Show”, Carson urged viewers not to “jump on the bandwagon of demonizing this guy.”

Rice was indefinitely suspended from the NFL after gossip tabloid TMZ released shocking new elevator video footage showing Rice knocking out his then-fiancee Janay Palmer and callously dragging her from an elevator at Revel Casino in Atlantic City, NJ on Feb. 15.

From Politico.com:

“Let’s not all jump on the bandwagon of demonizing this guy,” Carson said. “He obviously has some real problems. And his wife obviously knows that because she subsequently married him. So they both need some help.”

Carson’s remarks follow the release Monday of a TMZ video of the incident, in which Rice appears to strike his now-wife Janay Palmer twice in an elevator and knock her unconscious. The Ravens announced the team’s decision via its Twitter account.

Rice will likely keep about $25 million in salary and signing bonuses he's already been paid by the Ravens since 2012. But he won't get $9.5 million in salary that he would've received through 2016.

Judging by the way NFL players throw away their money on cars and women, Rice probably doesn't have much of that cash left. Which means he will be in the poor house before the NFL reinstates him once the controversy blows over.

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    • A.J.

      Look at her face tho :no:

    • Jessie

      One news report stated she spit in his face before he cold-cocked her. Well, if someone spits in my face, hitting them would be a natural response.

    • capricorn83

      “He obviously has some real problems. And his wife obviously knows that because she subsequently married him. So they both need some help.”

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      I agree with this...

    • luVn_liFe…

      Look at her face tho :no:
      ~~~~
      I know :(

    • A.J.

      One news report stated she spit in his face before he cold-****ed her. Well, if someone spits in my face, hitting them would be a natural response.
      ________
      Well then that explains why he spit on her. Lord knows I'm going to someone's jailhouse if I ever get spit on.

    • FuturedocDonte

      Look here, Ben Carson retired from Johns Hopkins... These Baltimoreans don't play about their Ravens :nono:

    • Kanyade

      "She knew what he was like before she married him." (not accurately quoted) I don't like the tone of that.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Dear Uncle Ben,

      No one is demonizing Ray Rice. He did an awesome job of handling that himself. Let this be a lesson to ALL that there are reactions for any and all actions.

      Someone who's not here for it,

      Butter

    • OutsidetheBox

      Measured response.. *scale hands* :facepalm:

    • The Pearl!

      :waves: Morning, A.J.!!!

    • San ah make ya dance

      OVER IT!! :tea:

    • A.J.

      Look at her face tho :no:
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      I know
      ___________
      Talk about demonizing; geez.

    • Who Dat

      This? Is the hottest topic at the moment. I do mean that. I done talked about Ray Rice/DV with yall, ladies at work, my homegirls, my mom, my dude...all within the past 20 hours. I still standby what I said. The incident is not new. Why in the hell did he get fired for a tape that showed a different damn camera angle of footage? The end result was the same. And they all knew said result BACK IN FEB. Janay Rice aint call police on Ray. I DO think he needs some help and she does too which makes this a PRIVATE matter for THESE folks.

    • OutsidetheBox

      Look at her face tho :no:
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      :no: Disapproving headshake. *bottom lip swanging in disapproval*

    • A.J.

      Morning, A.J.!!!
      _______
      Hey there love!!

    • luVn_liFe…

      I can say what the fukk I want. Don't touch me. Simple
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      this

    • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ Bird

      A.J. says:

      Look at her face tho
      *******************

      Yeah, look at it now because in a few years it's going to look like she had a long boxing career.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      Status of a FB friend - "That moment when you see a known woman beater comment on the Ray Rice video...lmao maaannnn ninjas is crazy *side-eye*

      But then his next post pretty much said what Dr. Ben said -So we're just gonna overlook the fact that she married that man. So then I had to :eyeroll:

    • FuturedocDonte

      I was watching GMA this morning and they say that he may have a legal case. Something like double jeopardy. Is it fair that he was punished twice for the same crime? :thinking:

    • OutsidetheBox

      Well then that explains why he spit on her. Lord knows I’m going to someone’s jailhouse if I ever get spit on.
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      Spit is nasty. Full stop. Its also assault. Why not let them go to jail instead of you? :think: I'm just asking. I have def whooped a bitch for much less.

    • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ Bird

      Jessie says:

      One news report stated she spit in his face before he cold-****ed her. Well, if someone spits in my face, hitting them would be a natural response.
      **********************

      Well the video showed that he spit on her before he even got in the elevator. He also has a history of spitting on folk.

    • TruGemini

      I agree Sandra...once this blows over he'll be back. NFL couldn't NOT do anything. All in the name of avoiding the "PR nightmare" just as with the Michael Sam situation. Cowards!

    • Wasting time

      I hate the rehashing of ish and then it being sensationalized.

      During this press conference he admitted to striking her in the face. Was it not bad when he said it? IS it DV once there was a image to go along with his telling of it? Was it not DV when he admitted it?. Like she said in her half azz IG statement; now the family has to relive it and they are taking steps to move from it. She already had the memory of being knocked out now it is there for everyone to see and Lame stream capitalizing off of it. What I haven't see is GoFundMe accounts for Shelter Our Sisters or these outlets pledging money for the DVRailRoad.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCr4EJSUcCU Zoe B.

      Look at her face tho 
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      I know 
      ____________

      The message she posted on Instagram :no:

    • Who Dat

      was watching GMA this morning and they say that he may have a legal case. Something like double jeopardy. Is it fair that he was punished twice for the same crime?
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Correct. I saw it too. He was already tried and convicted of this in the public back in Feb! When the ish came up again the other day I was confused like did he hit her again?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIs6REdG2Q datsmdubya2u

      You know his agents lawyers coaches and the team owner sat her down and basically said you gotta say something to help Ray out or you are gonna ruin his career. He gonna be broke and not able to take care of his child etc.. Rodger Goddell interviewed her with him sitting there. What else do ppl think she w as gonna do? She prob w as and is scared of him :no:

    • FuturedocDonte

      This? Is the hottest topic at the moment.
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      You best believe that the NFL is :nun: in the fact that the attention has moved away from Michael Sam :coffee:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      The incident is not new. Why in the hell did he get fired for a tape that showed a different damn camera angle of footage?
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      Because it just came to the attention of the public. Trust and believe that Goddell knew about this when it first happened, but because it would paint Goddell in a less-flattering light (some would say that isn't possible), he had to take action. I would not doubt that there was an agreement reached that if the tape were ever released more serious actions would have to be taken.

    • SOTHERNGRL

      jump on the bandwagon of demonizing this guy.”
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      UMmmmmmm lil buddy I'm gonna :stop: you right there because he made himself look like a demon when he hit that girl like her head was a pinata and he was trying to get some damn candy then picked her up like a damn croker sack of potatoes. No sir I think you need to sitcho azz down.

    • luVn_liFe…

      FuturedocDonte says: I was watching GMA this morning and they say that he may have a legal case. Something like double jeopardy. Is it fair that he was punished twice for the same crime?
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      Idont think so Donte, double Jeopardy is in criminal cases, of course it couldn't\wouldn't be done.

      the NFL is there own entity of communism :tea:

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      Rice will likely keep about $25 million
      __________________

      well cry me a river then. its people out here that will never make ONE million ever in life. get the fugg out with this pity party ass first world problems ass shyt. :cuss:

      mannnnn looka here.

    • lovezoe

      The NFL can do what they want. They are a private org. I believe while they may not have physically seen the vid, the knew the content. Also, did they think she passed out? That vid in Feb alone should have gotten up at least 6 games. But Ray Rice is one if the faces of the Ravens so it's all good. You want someone's head call for the resignation of Goddell. They spend millions on security, investigations but didn't get this video?! No, they wanted to be ignorant of it.

    • A.J.

      Why not let them go to jail instead of you? :think: I’m just asking. I have def whooped a bitch for much less.
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      Because I was spit on!! It's the worst you can do to me. I don't even play when folks speak and a little spit come out their mouth.

      I be like "Hole up, check that chit coming out ya mouf!!" :lol: You almost spit on me!!

    • Who Dat

      Correct @FutureDoc!! But when I say EVERYBODY is talking about this? There was some yt folk in the lunchroom talking about it yesterday afternoon. We keep one of the TV's on ESPN

    • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ Bird

      People don't get the full gist of the situation by the end result. That's why a lot of people acted like Rih deserved that beating. They saw the end result, but they don't know what it looks like to inflict that kind of injury on someone. Seeing it shocks the senses. But the NFL didn't care anyway. They wanted their guy. He only got fired because of the response to the video. Not because of the video itself.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      I was watching GMA this morning and they say that he may have a legal case. Something like double jeopardy. Is it fair that he was punished twice for the same crime? :thinking:
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      The NFL isn't a court of law, so 5th amendment doesn't apply to this case. The NFL could easily say something to the effect that given to recent developments he was released from his team.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      OK. I saw Mrs.Rice IG post.....it almost made me not feel bad for her. But the facrs in my head are as follows and will not change (to me):

      He cold clocked your ass. That makes it his fault, not the media. Place the blame where it belongs.

      The NFL been knew. The only reason he lost is job is because now we know. They did not really care.

      Ray Rice should of been locked the hell up.

      I hope they don't have kids, because is this what your teaching your daughter? That's its OK for a man to hit you!?

      I feel bad for this woman that she is so accepting of this foolishness.

    • https://m.soundcloud.com/bernadette-giacomazzo/momma-dee-i-deserve?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_cam <—MisTaken: My shoulders too big to box with God. GET.INTO.IT :eek:

      @OTB I totally agree with you about Thee Thee. She was right. At no point did they say anything that was worthy of being attacked nor jumped on. Especially since Stevie and Joseline stay going off about crackhead stuff. They looked crazy and deranged. Now as for Stevie being mad (if) Zino hit Joseline while she was attacking Thee Thee :shrugs: I mean I hate it for her. She came at her like a crazed animal. I said below and I will say it again… if someone every jumps on me and it is unprovoked (I didn’t hit them first) and my husband is there :no: TROOOUUBLE… He might try to get the chick away at first but if she does some dirty ish like sneak me from behind or hit me with a weapon.. I am going to tell you straight up and down that hoe getting Ray Riced. PERIOD.

    • lovezoe

      Michael Strahan wasike you notice the NFLPA have not made a statement. No one wants him around them or on their team he said. Dude ain't playing this season, but if Vick could come back for killing the beloved white mans pet, so can he.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      During this press conference he admitted to striking her in the face. Was it not bad when he said it?

      ______________

      I think we all know imagery can hold a whole different layer to a situation. I mentioned yesterday, Rhianna and Evelyn's situations took on a different tone once the pics of their faces were leaked.

      Hell seeing a video to a song can make me love or hate it more. I never saw the press conference, but "I struck her in the face" sounds WAY different than "I spit on her. And then proceeded to raise back my left fist, sock the chit out of her like a grown man. I socked her so hard she fell and hit her head on the rail. Not sure if she was knocked unconscious from the blow or hitting her head but While she was passed out on the floor, I also kicked her and walked over her several times, making sure my feet nudged her each time" :yes:

    • Who Dat

      Because it just came to the attention of the public.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^
      Ummm no it did NOT. From Feb 19 2014. From USAToday.

      Ray Rice struck his fiancee and knocked her unconscious during an altercation at hotel in Atlantic City, N.J., last weekend, according to a summons from Atlantic City police.Rice and his fiancee, Janay Palmer, were both arrested Saturday morning and charged with simple assault-domestic violence after an argument at the Revel Casino in Atlantic City. Rice is scheduled to appear in court Feb. 25 at 9 a.m.

      Video posted by TMZ shows Rice lifting Palmer by her arms out of an elevator and laying her on the ground. Rice's attorney, Michael Diamondstein, confirmed to the Baltimore Sun that the video is authentic but incomplete.

      Diamondstein could not be reached immediately by USA TODAY Sports.

      "The video that has been put up by TMZ shows the very end of what transpired between Ray and his fiancee," Diamdonstein told the Sun.

      In a press release Sunday, the Atlantic City Police Department stated that Rice and Palmer struck each other.

      The Baltimore Ravens told USA TODAY Sports on Sunday that Rice and Palmer "returned home together after being detained."

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      She already had the memory of being knocked
      ______________

      maybe. maybe not. :tea:

    • luVn_liFe…

      The NFL could easily say something to the effect that given to recent developments he was released from his team.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      RIGHT BUTTER and what they have said is , Ray's statement and details of the incident did NOT happen as he said.
      Essentially there stand is He Lied.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      double Jeopardy is in criminal cases

      ___________

      :yes: :lol:

    • OutsidetheBox

      mannnnn looka here.
      ___________

      :eyeroll: I think he needs a suspension. I'm sorry the Ravens/NFL didn't take it seriously but is there no statue of limitations when you control the rules and the NFL does.

      They have that new DV policy. Start him under that or something but I think with full sincerity that he got off lightly and I betcha he knew that too. Maybe he thanked God and prayed for forgiveness and showered Janay with love every waking moment..unfortunately we aint privy to it..looks like he continued on with life if you ask me. This is the punishment he should have had initially imo.

    • San ah make ya dance

      :tape: I will fight off words. Like you will be steady talking and then get punched in the mouth. Not a man tho :kona:

    • SOTHERNGRL

      Look at that girls face in that freeze frame. She looks defeated if that makes any sense.

    • Blanche Devereaux

      I wish the media understood that repeatedly playing a video of the incident while saying how sorry they feel for her is stupid and counterproductive. You are making her relive that moment everytime it comes across her tv screen :rollseyes:

    • OutsidetheBox

      I also kicked her and walked over her several times, making sure my feet nudged her each time” :yes:
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      Aptly named the "kick-push" :yes:

    • Wasting time

      So know one watched the press conference?
      I can see if he lied during that press conference and said she was passed out drunk and then we saw this video.
      He offered up the info to the media then, that we didn't have and was punished for that. The league, his team and the law :shrug:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Because it just came to the attention of the public.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^
      Ummm no it did NOT.
      ==============
      I meant the video. It's one thing to hear or read tell of something. It's a whole different story to see what happened.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Because it just came to the attention of the public.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^
      Ummm no it did NOT.
      ==============
      I meant the video. It's one thing to hear or read tell of something. It's a whole different story to see what happened.

    • Who Dat

      That video has been around since Feb. Did folks not see it 7 months ago? Folks had talked about it and moved on. The Rice family had moved on. Atlantic City Police Department had moved on. For the Ravens to say oh you suspended for XX amount of games, back in Feb and then now be like oh we changed our minds...now your azz is fired...7 months later is some SKRAIT BS.

    • lovezoe

      Sothern- that's what I says. Look just like a battered woman

    • SuthernBelle4

      When this came out I knew this wasn't the first time that ninja tagged her head. Looking at her face let's me know that this is a norm. What adds insult to injury is this ninja did a lot for anti-bullying campaign, oh really sir???

    • OutsidetheBox

      croker sack of potatoes
      ___________

      Hannnnnn :rofl: :hahaha: :heart: Boyyy you pulled that one from like the 18century. :phew: Thankyou..

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      I think he needs a suspension. I’m sorry the Ravens/NFL didn’t take it seriously but is there no statue of limitations when you control the rules and the NFL does.
      They have that new DV policy. Start him under that or something but I think with full sincerity that he got off lightly and I betcha he knew that too. Maybe he thanked God and prayed for forgiveness and showered Janay with love every waking moment..unfortunately we aint privy to it..looks like he continued on with life if you ask me. This is the punishment he should have had initially imo.
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      :cosign:

    • lovezoe

      I think seeing the video makes it real. I think he shoulda hot mire from the get anyways

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      @Dubb I love you but naw. I never saw the video. And from what was said and now watching, this should of been the punishment from jump. If the Rice family moved on too bad. That's a crime he committed. Why was he never charged!? He assaulted her.

    • https://m.soundcloud.com/bernadette-giacomazzo/momma-dee-i-deserve?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_cam <—MisTaken: My shoulders too big to box with God. GET.INTO.IT :eek:

      I be like “Hole up, check that chit coming out ya mouf!!” You almost spit on me!!
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      WHHHHYYYY :crying1:

    • OutsidetheBox

      The Rice family had moved on
      _____________

      IDK. But I just don't believe its that easy to stop an abuser. Maybe it is.. *trails off*

      Them getting married don't mean they moved on. Business as usual is not a good thing here.

    • Who Dat

      And her. Mrs. Rice. I want her to run. I want her to get the hell outta there cause he aint done beating her azz. Girl you in danger.

    • The Pearl!

      Who Dat says:

      This? Is the hottest topic at the moment. I do mean that. I done talked about Ray Rice/DV with yall, ladies at work, my homegirls, my mom, my dude…all within the past 20 hours. I still standby what I said. The incident is not new. Why in the hell did he get fired for a tape that showed a different damn camera angle of footage? The end result was the same. And they all knew said result BACK IN FEB. Janay Rice aint call police on Ray. I DO think he needs some help and she does too which makes this a PRIVATE matter for THESE folks.
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      Morning, Dubb. Look at another way for a second, please. By making an example of Ray Rice, his employer could very well save the life/lives of other DV victims. Doesn't matter if Janay WANTED charges brought. This did not happen in private, but before the public, with video. Therefore, it is no longer private and his employer should, in my humble opinion, make an example out their situation so that the others who are beating their wives or even thinking about it will STOP, think and go get help before someone dies. No?

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      then now be like oh we changed our minds…now your azz is fired…7 months later is some SKRAIT BS.
      _________________

      it is but karma is a bitch and you never know how or when she is coming to get your ass. all you know is that she IS coming and you will deal.

      .......but I cant give any fux for a nigga with 25 MILLION US DOLLARS. :nono:

    • Wasting time

      I wish the media understood that repeatedly playing a video of the incident while saying how sorry they feel for her is stupid and counterproductive. You are making her relive that moment everytime it comes across her tv screen :rollseyes:
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      Like why is this what is popping right now.
      How does this help any other person in a situation like hers.

    • https://m.soundcloud.com/bernadette-giacomazzo/momma-dee-i-deserve?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_cam <—MisTaken: My shoulders too big to box with God. GET.INTO.IT :eek:

      The video was out. I saw the fight before and when he walked out the elevator leaving her slumped on the ground like a sack of taters :no:
      it has been out. It's just now TMZ made it even more mainstream and them folks have caught wind of it. It's more that black twitter famous

    • Who Dat

      Why was he never charged!? He assaulted her.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      I am not sure why he wasnt. He still might be. Her charges were dropped. Her azz need some too if they know she spit on him. That is a form of assul. as someone else stated. This whole damn thing is a mess. Yes he shoulda have gotten a stiffer punishment from the jump. But he didnt.

    • luVn_liFe…

      OutsidetheBox says: :eyeroll: I think he needs a suspension. I’m sorry the Ravens/NFL didn’t take it seriously but is there no statue of limitations when you control the rules and the NFL does.

      They have that new DV policy.
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      My take on this is; He WAS SUSPENDED TWO GAMES.Ray didn't decide that GODDELL did.
      Why isn't anyone pisst off at Goddell, that's were my anger is geared at GODDELL.
      the new DV policy was put in place because of this.
      YEAH what RAY did Was and IS by all means brutal and vile, he more so should have been severely punished by the STATE! his ass needs more then DV/anger management classes his ass should have been locked up.

      Yeah he did lie or twist the truth a little, he said she spat on him then attacked him,so he had to "defend hisself"
      but still he should def appeal this indefinite suspension,the facts remain the same.
      He hit her,admitted to it, she said No harm no foul. Goddell handed down a two game suspension and moved on
      :shrug:

    • OutsidetheBox

      Why was he never charged!? He assaulted her.
      _______

      He was charged. If he completes his intervention the charges will be dropped.. the police and prosecutors saw THIS video. Not the drag her one...the actual punch along with the other one.

      I think ppl not realizing the grand jury CHOSE to drop her charge and upped the ante on his.. :containedface: but when Ray (who IS a frist time ON RECORD offender) agreed to counseling, they did what they normally do...the offered that. Im not mad at him for getting what ALMOST ALL WOMEN BEATERS get...the system been showed the DGAF about chu on that front. He have to damn near kill you for it to even be a felony in some states.. *trails off*

    • Wasting time

      They were both charged with Assault and I guess we just not ever gonna get the video of when this started or it'll be out Feb 2015 :shrug:

    • SOTHERNGRL

      @Lovezoe that girl looks so damn sad.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      @luvin Goddell needs to be fired. Period.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      it has been out. It’s just now TMZ made it even more mainstream and them folks have caught wind of it.

      _____________

      The video of him dragging her off the elevator was out. And all over the news at the time.

      This video of him :box: her and her hitting her head was just released yesterday.

    • FuturedocDonte

      I wish the media understood that repeatedly playing a video of the incident while saying how sorry they feel for her is stupid and counterproductive. You are making her relive that moment everytime it comes across her tv screen
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      The media don't care about her well being :nono: media only cares about what gets people :gossip: I wonder if Harvey bish azz sleeps well at night :thinking:

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      Who Dat says:

      This? Is the hottest topic at the moment. I do mean that. I done talked about Ray Rice/DV with yall, ladies at work, my homegirls, my mom, my dude…all within the past 20 hours. I still standby what I said. The incident is not new. Why in the hell did he get fired for a tape that showed a different damn camera angle of footage? The end result was the same. And they all knew said result BACK IN FEB. Janay Rice aint call police on Ray. I DO think he needs some help and she does too which makes this a PRIVATE matter for THESE folks.
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      :cosign:

    • Who Dat

      This did not happen in private

      Therefore, it is no longer private and his employer should, in my humble opinion, make an example out their situation so that the others who are beating their wives or even thinking about it will STOP, think and go get help before someone dies. No?
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Sure didnt. But everybody keep saying that was not the first time he knocked her azz out or prolly the last time either. Which I agree on. Look at her up there. She got her azz stomped when they got to the house most likely. Now he done lost his job. So make an example out of him while putting her further in danger? That is a good idea?

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      Like why is this what is popping right now.
      How does this help any other person in a situation like hers.
      __________________

      because sometimes you cant SEE :eek: how you look until you SEE :shocked: how you look.

      like I didnt realize how nutty my dam hair was until that day I took my work ID and was look who this wily head bish in this picture? oh thats me?? well back to the drawing boardt!

    • flsun99

      Who Dat says:

      This? Is the hottest topic at the moment. I do mean that. I done talked about Ray Rice/DV with yall, ladies at work, my homegirls, my mom, my dude…all within the past 20 hours. I still standby what I said. The incident is not new. Why in the hell did he get fired for a tape that showed a different damn camera angle of footage? The end result was the same. And they all knew said result BACK IN FEB. Janay Rice aint call police on Ray. I DO think he needs some help and she does too which makes this a PRIVATE matter for THESE folks
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      I totally agree! I think the media put pressure on the franchise after the "other" tape was released. He had already been punished regarding this incident when it happened earlier this year. Now he is being punished again for the same incident. I don't think it's right what he did to her at all. They both need to get some type of INTENSE counseling, but I don't think he should lose his job. JMO

    • luVn_liFe…

      Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake says: @Dubb I love you but naw. I never saw the video.
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      I Never seen the assault video In the elevator. I did see the video of him draggin her out, but NOT him Knocking her out :no:

      GODDELL Should do the right thing, Re-instate RICE and STEP DOWN

    • Wasting time

      The good thing about this and all the hoopla is that DV groups; causes and shelters should see 100% mark up in donations of time, money and talents.

    • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

      Any time a man is an example of what NOT to do for black boys who will follow his lead, and a future headache for little black girls who will become the girlfriends and wives of those little black boys who will follow his lead - as a community, we SHOULD demonize his a$$.

      We should suggest help and hope that he gets it and then extend to help him back up - but not until AFTER he's shown us that he's remorseful, learned a HARD lesson, and is READY to work his way back into the good graces of respectful black folk.

      What we should NOT be doing as a community is hugging this violent mf and patting him on the pack with a "poor RAY" thought process because the message it sends to impressionable black kids who already have a ROUGH a$$ future ahead of them is that beating up a black woman will make HER self-worth even lower because society has suggested that abuse is OK as long as it's OK with you.

      As one of the Ikette's told Anna Mae Bullock in "Love Ain't Got a Gat Damn Thing to Do Widdit!" - "It is NEVER OK to let some mother f*cker pound on your face!"

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      By making an example of Ray Rice, his employer could very well save the life/lives of other DV victims.

      _______________

      :cosign: Sometimes people are used to make examples out of. I'm not mad that they chose him :tea:

    • OutsidetheBox

      Why isn’t anyone pisst off at Goddell, that’s were my anger is geared at GODDELL.
      ___________

      I hate him LuVie. I think he should be in trouble too. You have no argument from me.

      :think: If one of the Beez say mom wrecked your car..it was an accident..pole just jumped out in front of me.. :eek:

      Me: Ok.. :huh: Glad you all right..but wtf... and we talk about it. But if I get video evidence of you later, cruising :headphones: :cell: texting and chit.. :blink: Why would my response be the same...?

      All that to say, I don't think The NFL is clean in this oh no :nono: You know I know the NFL don't give a chit about women and NOW they are tryna change that.

    • SOTHERNGRL

      @OTB girl and I typed it in my Great great Auntie voice. may she RIP.

    • lovezoe

      LUVN- I do believe Goddell shouldxgetvthe qx along with other folks. Olberman went in on this.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIs6REdG2Q datsmdubya2u

      One thing tho: we he hIt her and when he saw she hit her head he wasnt shocked horrified or like "help" he could've picked her up and cradled her in his arms instead of draggin her. he didn't try to look for help or nuthin. AND he left her laying there with her AZZ HANGING OUT... :mad:

    • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ Bird

      VDot says:

      While she was passed out on the floor, I also kicked her and walked over her several times, making sure my feet nudged her each time”
      ********************

      Right! I'm like damn, he can't callously step over her without his foot making contact everytime? If they stay together I think her death is imminent.

    • Who Dat

      Why isn’t anyone pisst off at Goddell, that’s were my anger is geared at GODDELL
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Please say this. :cosign: Thank you @Luvn. I am pist at The Ravens for not doing what they shoulda did in the first place

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIs6REdG2Q datsmdubya2u

      And the NFL is lying they saw both tapes

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      He have to damn near kill you for it to even be a felony in some states.. *trails off*
      _______________

      I think thats where the phrase "within an inch of your life" comes from. like as long as you had some inches left untarnished then it wouldnt count as abuse.

      ion feel like googling it. I think its from back in the days when beating your wife (and black and/or brown ppl) was acceptable.

    • OutsidetheBox

      The video of him dragging her off the elevator was out. And all over the news at the time.

      This video of him :box: her and her hitting her head was just released yesterday.
      ____________
      :shrug:

      Right.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      . So make an example out of him while putting her further in danger? That is a good idea?
      ----------------
      If she chooses to stay, then isn't she putting herself in danger!? If you know he is going to continue to knock you around, and you stay put for the beat down, your not helping yourself. He's not home on away games. Pack your shit and run miss. Sell some shit out of the house and run. Don't allow your self to be beaten. And then want to blame others. No. Its his fault. But at some point its yours too. *disclaimer * NO ONE deserves to be beaten. But I'm saying don't stay for it if you can get out.

    • OutsidetheBox

      respectful black folk
      _________________

      *pays my tithes* :biggrin:

    • luVn_liFe…

      datsmdubya2u says: One thing tho: we he hIt her and when he saw she hit her head he wasnt shocked horrified or like “help” he could’ve picked her up and cradled her in his arms instead of draggin her. he didn’t try to look for help or nuthin. AND he left her laying there with her AZZ HANGING OUT
      ~~~~~
      I think WE ARE All Agree on this. He is cold and distant and does NOT give a half of a FCUK about her or probably anything or anyone else for that matter.
      Janay needs to really go to some type of counseling retreat or hell to the MK ULtra lab . . . #JS

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      The media don’t care about her well being media only cares about what gets people I wonder if Harvey bish azz sleeps well at night
      ____________

      :yes: Very well. It's all about a paycheck to them.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      Hey Beau Carrington!:waves: :cosign:

      I think I'm more :shocked: at the response of women than I am men. I saw a chick on FB arguing up and down a status that he didn't hit Janay. Just pushed her really hard and she hit her head. That she shouldn't have come across that elevator. It really really made me sad and just reiterated for me that there are really women out here that think getting :box: by their men is a way of life.

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      AND he left her laying there with her AZZ HANGING OUT
      ____________

      didnt even get the sheet for her like they do in church. :no:

      shameful!

    • ArklaTex

      In February when the first video was released we knew it had to be bad if he knocked her out. He admitted it was...it is double jeopardy. On another note, around the 26 second market he slaps/punches her in the face which appears to be the reason she came at him....with that type of reaction from her..it could have been the first time he laid hands on her

    • lovezoe

      To a victim it's not as simple as just leaving. More women are murdered trying to leave. A woman is more likely to be killed by an intimate partner. She's made to feel worthless. For everyone it's just not that simple./

    • essenze

      Umm my issue is that Ray's head isn't the only one that should roll. I can only imagine the shyt that happens behind the scenes of the NFL that we don't hear about and that is swept under the rug.

    • Aprilbaby

      Morning All,

      After reading her post on IG it seems like this is normal for them. His reaction in the elevator after he knocked her out shows that as well. The whole situation is sad. I guess if she is ok with it, we should be too. I've learned a long time ago with domestic violence to stay out of it. Let them see it for themselves. Hopefully it won't be too late when she does.

    • SummerBaby

      He have to damn near kill you for it to even be a felony in some states.. *trails off*
      _______________
      This is so true! Many times the victims arent informed of their rights & often don't press charges or cooperate to get their abuser prosecuted.

    • OutsidetheBox

      I don't think DV is private. Murder aint private.. :no: I don't think its their business. :no: I think its everybody business.. like if you beat a child like that, that's my business. I'm making it mine..if I saw him hit her, instincts take over. :oops:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIs6REdG2Q datsmdubya2u

      @LuVn

      No Ray needs counciling

    • OutsidetheBox

      it could have been the first time he laid hands on her
      _________________

      And his actions afterward? You believe those are the actions of a mna who had never punched a woman before?

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      essenze says:

      Umm my issue is that Ray’s head isn’t the only one that should roll. I can only imagine the shyt that happens behind the scenes of the NFL that we don’t hear about and that is swept under the rug.

      _____________

      :cosign: Them muthafukkas knew the depth of this when the FIRST video came out in Feb. Ain't no way you can tell me these folks ain't know. The DA knew too. :coffee:

    • The Pearl!

      OutsidetheBox says:

      I also kicked her and walked over her several times, making sure my feet nudged her each time” :yes:
      ___________
      Aptly named the “kick-push” :yes:
      ___
      :ashamed: :yes: :hi: @OTB

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      More women are murdered trying to leave. A woman is more likely to be killed by an intimate partner. She’s made to feel worthless. For everyone it’s just not that simple./

      ______________________

      Please say this louder!! People honestly don't get it. More people need to volunteer at domestic abuse shelters or something. My friend was just telling me about a boss of hers who changed her name, moved across the country and took on a different identity to get away from an abusive relationship.

    • Who Dat

      He is cold and distant and does NOT give a half of a FCUK about her or probably anything or anyone else for that matter.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      That is the part that GOT me. Knocked her out and didnt panic not ONE BIT. Like I said originally. BOTH of them need HELP. Like somebody said intense counseling. I was so sad when news came out that she had married this sucka after that there ish. My heartbroke.

    • luVn_liFe…

      WHAT ABOUT THE 49ERS player,MCDONALD I believe. He was just arrested for DV last weekend, He's still on the field played SUNDAY.
      Why
      NO
      Outrage?!!!!????
      Again ROGER GODDELL Needs to STEP DOWN, the NFL Owners need to Oust him something.

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      OutsidetheBox says:

      I don’t think DV is private. Murder aint private.. I don’t think its their business. I think its everybody business.. like if you beat a child like that, that’s my business. I’m making it mine..if I saw him hit her, instincts take over
      __________________

      :clap:

    • lovezoe

      The Ravens announced they will be doing Ray Rice jersey trade ins

    • Aprilbaby

      essenze says:

      Umm my issue is that Ray’s head isn’t the only one that should roll. I can only imagine the shyt that happens behind the scenes of the NFL that we don’t hear about and that is swept under the rug.
      _______________
      They covered this up. I really think she married him so she wouldn't have to testify when his trial came around. You know by law she doesn't have to testify against him since they are married.

    • luVn_liFe…

      datsmdubya2u says:No Ray needs counciling
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      He sure does right from a jail cell.

      she does as well, from some place far far away from everything.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIs6REdG2Q datsmdubya2u

      Carrington is right. .. ray should be shunned... ifn this ninja got denied entrance to a club or restaurant because they dont wanna be associated with that sort of thing... now that would send a message

    • OutsidetheBox

      But at some point its yours too.
      __________

      The brain don't really work like that tho.. :no: Its much deeper than rap for certain ppl.

      :think: Certain genes have a propensity for drugs, codependence, genetic illnesses whatever..chit even anger! Some ppl are truly genetically inclined to be a certain way, the same as if they are inclined to be tall, short, fat, thin..

      Some woman will leave if you look at them wrong.. whether they were taught that or not. Some wont. You cannot blame someone else for someone else's actions at no point. You cant charge an abused person with accessory to their own abuse!

    • A.J.

      As one of the Ikette’s told Anna Mae Bullock in “Love Ain’t Got a Gat Damn Thing to Do Widdit!” – “It is NEVER OK to let some mother f*cker pound on your face!”
      ___________
      :rofl: all of this tho.

    • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

      Why are we bifurcating the responsibility for what ACTUALLY happened in every direction EXCEPT the one where the fault lies - with Ray Rice?

      Regardless of how the NFL initially REACTED, twas Ray Rice's initial ACTION that created his downfall - the NFL's limited initial response is of little consequence for me.

      Even if they initially made an attempt to give him the benefit of the doubt and cover for him with the hope that this tape would never get out - the fact that it did created an entirely different set of public relations issues for the team and the league and at that point, Ray Rice became more trouble than he was worth.

      The fact that the league is pretending to be shocked, disgusted and hurt in their PR release and subsequent "release" of Rice, is no more contrived and full of $hit than Ray Rice's gal sitting next to him as the dutiful wife in that press conference HE gave.

      The issue is that we are deflecting attention away from the REAL issues here: His inability to learn a lesson from his nearly lethal blow to a woman he loved - and her inability to know her worth as a woman... no, as a human being.

      Neither the Ravens, nor the NFL whooped her a$$ - HE did. And if she's willing to sacrifice self to save face for her man... let him whoop her until either she, or her brothers, cousins and father decide that he won't anymore - but let my disdain for her acceptance serve as motivation to get the fuk OUT for women currently in that situation!

      Call me what you wish - I can take it.

    • https://m.soundcloud.com/bernadette-giacomazzo/momma-dee-i-deserve?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_cam <—MisTaken: My shoulders too big to box with God. GET.INTO.IT :eek:

      The video of him dragging her off the elevator was out. And all over the news at the time.

      This video of him :box: her and her hitting her head was just released yesterday.
      ____________
      :yes: That’s what I was saying. We knew he beat her :shrugs: I guess seeing the actual punch got some folk ACTUALLY mad bro? The video of her unconscious with the elevator jamming on her legs trying to close on her Weekend At Bernie body wasn’t enough evidence? :tape: Whoever (User) said that her butt cheeks was out and he didn’t even care enough to cover her with a prayer cloth was wrong (read: hilarious and read my mind) for that. He walked over her like she was hot garbage and he didn’t want to get the smell on him :lol:

    • lovezoe

      LUVN- Keith. Olberman said the same thing. He said heads even need to roll in the Ravens org.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      Me: Ok.. :huh: Glad you all right..but wtf… and we talk about it. But if I get video evidence of you later, cruising :headphones: :cell: texting and chit.. :blink: Why would my response be the same…?

      __________________________

      :yes:

      I used to work in a bank years ago. If my drawer came up short and I said :shrug: I must have gave a customer too much back. Maybe I just get a warning. But if they later see video of me pocketing the money, oh I'm getting fired despite the earlier warning punishment. :yes: This ain't a court case so double jeopardy doesn't apply :lol: But even if we go down that line, OJ was acquitted in criminal court and couldn't be re-tried. But best believe he lost in civil court. :tea:

    • OutsidetheBox

      Hey Pearl :hi: :hug: I watched my son kick-push all the chit from his floor, under his bed :blink: .. :waiting: about five minutes and made him crawl right in there and get it out. :lol:

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      Its much deeper than rap
      ____________

      :think: dead prez? :swoon:

    • A.J.

      bifurcating
      ___________
      Come through today college degree!!

    • FuturedocDonte

      :yawn: this here post done wore me the hell out :phew: it ain't eem 11:00 yet

    • Who Dat

      So the public shaming of Janay Rice to have to re-live this should be public? She cant get the right to go home and make decisions on her marriage privately? Everybody knows her now husband (then fiance/BD) beat her ass, dragged her out of an elevator, and that should be public? And folks publically judging on why she stay or she should leave that is okay? SHE IS A VICTIM.

    • Blanche Devereaux

      See...let me tell yall a personal story since we are all here...

      When I was younger I witnessed this VERY SAME THING..my father knocked my mother clean the fvck out over NOTHING like she was passed out just like Ray's wife. And to this day if I even try to mention this to my mother she will either a) cuss me out or b)start crying. This is what kinda makes me mad about this story being EVERYWHERE...I understand they are public figures but I hurt for her because even if she wants to move on with her life she never can.

    • A.J.

      this here post done wore me the hell out :phew: it ain’t eem 11:00 yet
      ________
      Agreed but I do enjoy reading the different POVs on here.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      bifurcating

      _______________

      :blink: :heart: :cell: me

    • The Pearl!

      The media don’t care about her well being :nono: media only cares about what gets people :gossip: I wonder if Harvey bish azz sleeps well at night :thinking:
      ______
      @Doc, I sincerely HOPE Harvey's bitch azz don't sleep well any night!

    • A.J.

      bifurcating

      _______________

      :blink: :heart: :cell: me
      _________
      I'm here for it!!

    • OutsidetheBox

      bifurcating
      ____________

      :blink:

      bi·fur·cate

      verb

      gerund or present participle: bifurcating

      /?b?f?r?k?t/

      divide into two branches or forks.

      "just below Cairo the river bifurcates"

      :thankyou:

    • luVn_liFe…

      lovezoe says: LUVN- Keith. Olberman said the same thing. He said heads even need to roll in the Ravens org
      ~~~
      Yup. then Ravens organization with their coward asses has Harbaugh doing a press conference on the release of Ray yesterday.
      THE OWNER or the GM (ossie newsome) should have been. ossie said when all this happened, "we don't know Janay's part in this" :huh:
      THOSE mofos should have been addressing this NOT Harbaugh, If they were signing Lebron James to a CB position they asses would have been up at that podium speaking on that. Speak on this RAY RICE Situation!

    • OutsidetheBox

      Babeeee :rofl: :rofl: :love: We here. #logophiles

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      Why are we bifurcating the responsibility for what ACTUALLY happened in every direction EXCEPT the one where the fault lies – with Ray Rice?
      _______________________

      :shrugs: mofos is like blame it on the rain, blame it on the media, blame it on anybody except the nigga that punched her in the face.

      as Judge Judy would say "but for his actions none of this would have been possible"

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIs6REdG2Q datsmdubya2u

      @carrington her males relatves aint gonna do ish.... thry all prolly want tickets. .prolly sumwhere right now :mad: as hail they connection is gone

    • essenze

      Ray is definitely guilty and I believe his punishment was just. But I believe the NFL has a responsibility as well. They chose to give an initial punishment that was very lenient knowing that he hit that woman. Where does their accountability come into play? They are an organization that is infamous for allowing certain behavior in the name of a dollar. Their assez need to feel the burn as well

    • luVn_liFe…

      FuturedocDonte says:this here post done wore me the hell out :phew: it ain’t eem 11:00 yet
      ~~~~
      :phew: me THREE Im tired, shyte I usually don't give this much on comments :yawn:

    • luVn_liFe…

      BEN CARSON Shut Up!

    • The Pearl!

      Who Dat says:

      This did not happen in private
      Therefore, it is no longer private and his employer should, in my humble opinion, make an example out their situation so that the others who are beating their wives or even thinking about it will STOP, think and go get help before someone dies. No?
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Sure didnt. But everybody keep saying that was not the first time he knocked her azz out or prolly the last time either. Which I agree on. Look at her up there. She got her azz stomped when they got to the house most likely. Now he done lost his job. So make an example out of him while putting her further in danger? That is a good idea?
      _________________
      But, should they have done nothing -- whether suspension for XX games or fire him? When do these abusers get held accountable? And if Janay stays with him, where are HER people to pull her lil ass out of the fire? Isn't prevention worth something?

    • Blanche Devereaux

      essenze says:

      Ray is definitely guilty and I believe his punishment was just. But I believe the NFL has a responsibility as well. They chose to give an initial punishment that was very lenient knowing that he hit that woman. Where does their accountability come into play? They are an organization that is infamous for allowing certain behavior in the name of a dollar. Their assez need to feel the burn as well
      .............................
      :cosign: alllll of this

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      datsmdubya2u says:

      @carrington her males relatves aint gonna do ish…. thry all prolly want tickets. .prolly sumwhere right now as hail they connection is gone
      _____________________

      assuming that she even has a father active in her life.

      :lightbulb: I might have to make my son read Aint I a Woman by Sojourner Truth this weekend. :yes:

    • luVn_liFe…

      Isn’t prevention worth something?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~
      Yes an Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure! :kona:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      OutsidetheBox says:

      Babeeee :rofl: :rofl: :love: We here. #logophiles

      _____________________

      :rofl: Coming in here using words like that is like walking by me and I get the slightest whiff of YSL L'Homme. Come on over here and let me sniff ya neck. :yes:

    • hell_on_heels

      Though I'm not saying what he did was right (because it was NOT); however, Big Ben has been accused of raping women (2 I believe) & both cases were " settled". Where was his indefinite suspension?

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      Their assez need to feel the burn as well
      ________________________

      losing RR as a player and still having to pay him 25 million is a pretty significant loss. :shrugs:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      When I was younger I witnessed this VERY SAME THING..my father knocked my mother clean the fvck out over NOTHING like she was passed out just like Ray’s wife. And to this day if I even try to mention this to my mother she will either a) cuss me out or b)start crying. This is what kinda makes me mad about this story being EVERYWHERE…I understand they are public figures but I hurt for her because even if she wants to move on with her life she never can.
      ===============
      :cry:

    • OutsidetheBox

      And to this day if I even try to mention this to my mother she will either a) cuss me out or b)start crying.
      ____________

      Do you think your mother has moved on if this is her response to you simply mentioning that period?

      Everyone doesn't handle grief and trauma the same but I think one universal truth of getting over it and getting on with your life is being able to "face" your self/emotions/abuser. That stuff eats you inside out.

      If you did something wrong or hurtful or if something wrong was done unto you, you do have to accept that. We know we cannot change the past. But you can make amends for your wrongs and your feels towards yourself and those who wronged you.

    • The Pearl!

      —————
      I totally agree! I think the media put pressure on the franchise after the “other” tape was released. He had already been punished regarding this incident when it happened earlier this year. Now he is being punished again for the same incident. I don’t think it’s right what he did to her at all. They both need to get some type of INTENSE counseling, but I don’t think he should lose his job. JMO
      ______
      Losing his job = him beating that ass as we type

      Keeping his job = him beating that ass as we type

      It's a bigger deal than him! It was caught on tape and so therefore, he will be the poster child for anti-DV. Simple as that.

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      When I was younger I witnessed this VERY SAME THING..my father knocked my mother clean the fvck out over NOTHING like she was passed out just like Ray’s wife. And to this day if I even try to mention this to my mother she will either a) cuss me out or b)start crying. This is what kinda makes me mad about this story being EVERYWHERE…I understand they are public figures but I hurt for her because even if she wants to move on with her life she never can.

      _______________

      :hugs: Is your mom still with your dad? This is just a fukked up situation from all aspects, IMO. Even if they wanted to work on their marriage in private, they loose that right because he's a public figure? That's BS to me. We can all judge (cause that's what we are doing) and say she's dumb for staying but that is not for ANYONE other than her to say. Was Ray wrong for knocking her the fukk owt? ABSOLUTLY! They should still have the right as a couple to decide what they want to do with THEIR relationship in PRIVATE.

    • JerseyGirl68

      I faux with Dr. Ben Carson.

      Basically, if Mrs. Ray Rice wants to get her a$$ beat by her sick abusive husband, then why should we get mad at him. Last I heard, this is a free country and she can walk the hell out of the door at anytime she wants to, especially now that the world appears to be watching. I am sure he won't swing on her dumb *** now if he ever wants to play professional football again. Next!!

      :newpost:

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      Coming in here using words like that is like walking by me and I get the slightest whiff of YSL L’Homme. Come on over here and let me sniff ya neck
      ______________________

      :rofl: he had the whole blog do a double take. we so used to Man calling us hoes all dam day we forgot what it was like. :lol:

      somebody pull out the pannie bucket cuz everybody in here leaking wet. :phew:

    • OutsidetheBox

      I believe his punishment was just.
      ____________

      Two games? :no: I just. I cant. To whom much is given much is required.

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      VDot says:

      OutsidetheBox says:

      Babeeee We here. #logophiles

      _____________________

      Coming in here using words like that is like walking by me and I get the slightest whiff of YSL L’Homme. Come on over here and let me sniff ya neck.
      __________

      You so fass @Vdot. :lol: But you shole is right! :fistbump:

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      To whom much is given much is required.

      ______________

      I swear I read " To whom punch is given punch is required" :ashamed: :kona:

    • essenze

      @user

      Yeah but still I don't believe that's enough. History has proven that this organization is irresponsible, hides shyt, and nurtures an environment of this kind of behavior and of course they are not the only ones. The only thing they care about is whether their players can make them money. So what a player has a drug problem, so what the person abuses women and/or children, etc. They could care less. This shyt is also apparent in college sports. That Sandusky shyt was ridiculous. Those kids suffered but no one gave a damn as long as they had their precious foitball

    • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

      As a child of the 70's, I witnessed DV as well... but this was during a time when it was "OK" for a man to put his woman in check by any means necessary... growing up in the 80's the tone changed and women weren't accepting of it any longer... in the 90's... women had police on their side and many examples to look to in an effort to confirm their self worth... in the 2000's - you hit a woman and you're LUCKY to escape with your life and IF she lets you back in, you're going to be tired as hell for at LEAST a year because you won't get much sleep wondering when, or if it's coming.

      This is why it's so hard for me to understand women in 2014 still accepting this type of behavior. Either I'm so far removed from the real world or I've closed my eyes to it all.

      I thought this $hit went out of style in the late 70's.

    • Who Dat

      But, should they have done nothing — whether suspension for XX games or fire him? When do these abusers get held accountable? And if Janay stays with him, where are HER people to pull her lil ass out of the fire? Isn’t prevention worth something?
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Sadly, I dont think Janay wants to be saved. She didnt call police on him. If she wanted to be saved that night was her chance. Coulda been the first night of the rest of her DV-free life. Then she turned around and married him. Like @Nakeya J said some of this lies with her. If she wanted to be saved she coulda LONG been. But She is most likely programmed like most DV victims sadly are. Why I said she needs help. It is mental. She is a victim. His azz shoulda been gone. Dont wait 7 months to do it. Like I said they knew he beat her ass back in Feb. The end result of her getting knocked out didnt change cause one set of footage showed the punch and the other one didnt. She still ended up on the floor of a dirty azz AC casino elevator. All parties KNEW who made that happen. Ray. He a coward azz coward and like I said yesterday I am mad at the AC PD AS WELL for him not getting jail time.

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      They both need to get some type of INTENSE counseling, but I don’t think he should lose his job
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      :rolleyes: its not like he had just made it to fries at mcdonalds. duke is walking away with 25 million dollars, not pesos, not monopoly money, but 25 million good american dollars. dont cry for him argentina.

      I have been fired from jobs making 25 thousand and didnt shed a tear. :shrugs: shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

    • essenze

      @OTB

      His recent punishment was just. I'm not talking about the bullshyt the gave him on the beginning

    • Blanche Devereaux

      @OTB They are cordial now, its little tit for tat but they have been knowing each other 25 years its just one of those things. I think her response is more because of the fact that I witnessed that. I actually called the police and got my butt beat for it later on but all about my mama honey :karate:

      @Hearts Naw they called it quits about 13 years ago. But if they were that would be her business as long as the abuse stopped. I DO think ending abuse in a relationship is possible but it takes work and some REAL mental help and evaluation. I don't know if THEY have gotten help and the look on her face tells me hes probably still beating her down now but they need to be able to work through that. Its not ok to shame her for staying in that relationship.

    • OutsidetheBox

      I don't know if she is "dumb" or not for staying and I hope I haven't said that; what I do know is the punishment was too light in light of that video. :shrug: Yes it was clear she was unconscious. There was MUCH chatter that she was drunk (as if that absolved him of something :eyeroll: ).. imo that is why the pendulum has swung.

    • OutsidetheBox

      :hahaha:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      :rofl: he had the whole blog do a double take. we so used to Man calling us hoes all dam day we forgot what it was like. :lol:

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      :rofl: Just gotta wait for Lil Joey to finish growing up :tea: :hahaha:

    • Hearts~n~Kisses

      This is why it’s so hard for me to understand women in 2014 still accepting this type of behavior. Either I’m so far removed from the real world or I’ve closed my eyes to it all.

      I thought this $hit went out of style in the late 70?s.

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      Maybe it's part of a sick repetitive cycle they can't break from. They may have grown up seeing it in their own homes and think it's ok or a normal part of a relationship.

    • luVn_liFe…

      :newpost:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      :newpost: Same topic, just different responses.

    • The Pearl!

      datsmdubya2u says:

      One thing tho: we he hIt her and when he saw she hit her head he wasnt shocked horrified or like “help” he could’ve picked her up and cradled her in his arms instead of draggin her. he didn’t try to look for help or nuthin. AND he left her laying there with her AZZ HANGING OUT… :mad:
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      This ^^^ as well as what Carrington said!!!! We as a black community need to stop coddling these boys-to-men assed muhfuggas. We find ways to excuse their behavior because they had a rough start (a given for all black people in the U.S.), but WE must, at some point, be willing to set higher standards within our communities. Fukc the NFL! I AM ANGRIER THAN A HORNET that this black man did this to a (black) woman and he should not be allowed to walk away without consequences. Oh! Excuse me! With only a 2-game suspension. The black woman has, because she had no choice due to the ills left over from slavery, has had to bear up, shore up, pick up, life up, hold up the entire black family at times (I love black men!!!! -- no shade, just historical facts). So long has the black woman's role been warped that we don't even see it ourselves -- this is no way to treat a (black) woman and he should be fired so that the next man will think twice and the next DV victim might be spared.

    • OutsidetheBox

      :newpost: Same topics.

    • Blanche Devereaux

      @Carrington I would never let a man hit me but I also make sure I keep my hands to myself because you just never know. Violence is an immature reaction on any end. I really don't even like to argue.

    • Ms Peaches

      didnt even get the sheet for her like they do in church.

      shameful!

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      I can't breathe, know you wrong

    • https://www.facebook.com/#!/video.php?v=815979665099262 User Friendly

      I DO think ending abuse in a relationship is possible
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      I do too. my mother and her hubby used to tear shyt UP! but eventually they just got too dam old and tired and chilled the fugg out but back in their hay day :box: they used to turn up something awful.

      still together to this day and part of the reason why I will never own a knife set. :nono:

    • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

      The media put pressure on the NFL to re-react - and? What?

      Be it not for the media's pressure and public outrage, the DA in Florida would've allowed "Georgy" Zimmerman to walk free MUCH sooner than he did. Be it not for the media and pressure from the public, the officer who shot The Brown kid would be back on the beat without a fear, or care in the world instead of still wondering about his future and his freedom.

      Public outcry and the media can be a good thing when those powers are used for good - in this case, if it brings attention to domestic violence for the SECOND time - then so be it... but you can't really be selective about when you're willing to accept the fall back from the media's involvement - sometimes it works in your favor... sometimes it won't.

    • https://m.soundcloud.com/bernadette-giacomazzo/momma-dee-i-deserve?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_cam <—MisTaken: My shoulders too big to box with God. GET.INTO.IT :eek:

      Bifurcating :thinking: Let me say what WEBMD say this condition is :typing:

    • Blanche Devereaux

      @user honey lets not talk about knife sets :lol: I can laugh about it now because man these mfs were really crazy back in the day but its still like :facepalm:

    • The Pearl!

      OutsidetheBox says:

      I don’t think DV is private. Murder aint private.. :no: I don’t think its their business. :no: I think its everybody business.. like if you beat a child like that, that’s my business. I’m making it mine..if I saw him hit her, instincts take over. :oops:
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      SAY THAT!!!

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      Public outcry and the media can be a good thing when those powers are used for good – in this case, if it brings attention to domestic violence for the SECOND time – then so be it…

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      :cosign:

      I have NO problem with the NFL coming back and dishing out a harsher punishment. Rice thought he got off scott free. :nono:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRALyMDoCBw&sns=em Nancy Drew (fka IsThisThingOn) has entered into witness protection :cool:

      Even if they initially made an attempt to give him the benefit of the doubt and cover for him with the hope that this tape would never get out – the fact that it did created an entirely different set of public relations issues for the team and the league and at that point, Ray Rice became more trouble than he was worth.

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      :cosign:
      You cant convince me that Goddell didnt KNOW the full extent of Rice's on-tape actions. However, i do believe that he had not SEEN the full tape because league counsel made sure he hadn't SEEN it so that he could always SAY (even under oath) that he'd never SEEN it.

      I pray Janay finds the strength to do what's best for her, and maybe, just maybe, this is a real arse wake-up call for Ray, and he'll finally get some real help. What I'm real curious to know is what the league is gonna do when the next case presents itself 'cause like i said, HE AINT THE ONLY ONE in the league with this problem. :tea:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmOOG-eHMg VDot

      Nan - Come up stairs. Bring your comment with you :yes: