Oprah Winfrey is bracing for public backlash after she choose to side with 2 accusers at the center of a shameless Michael Jackson documentary titled Leaving Neverland. The documentary will analyze all of the gossip, rumors and innuendoes about Michael's predilection for young Caucasian boys.

Social media erupted when Celebrity Insider announced Oprah would give credibility to the documentary by conducting an interview with James Safechuck and Wade Robson, who claim Michael molested them when they were young.

Oprah's fans are scratching their heads wondering why she is involved in the media spectacle. Oprah's people say she isn't worried about the backlash to her interview with Wade and Safechuck, which was filmed in front of an audience of less than a hundred survivors of abuse.

"This movie transcends Michael Jackson. It allows us to see societal corruption," Oprah said.

Michael's family filed a lawsuit against HBO to block the documentary from airing.

Wade (Pictured) repeatedly denied being molested by Michael while the pop singer was still alive. But after Michael tragically passed away in 2009, Wade filed a lawsuit against Michael's estate, claiming sexual abuse. The lawsuit was thrown out of court for lack of evidence.

Michael's niece, Brandi Jackson (Jackie's daughter), tweeted that Wade cheated on her with other women when they dated.

"I found out Wade cheated on me with multiple woman who he hoped would advance his career. You might know one of them, because it was a huge pop music scandal. Wade is not a victim, he's an #Opportunist".

She added: "I pray he comes at me for these #truths cause I will happily put him in his place."

Michael, 3rd from left, with (L-R), Tito, dad Joe, Randy, Jackie, Jermaine, and Marlon made history as The Jackson 5, scoring four consecutive No. 1 singles on the Billboard chart in the early 1970s. Michael would go on to become a legendary phenomenon as a solo artist.

For much of his adult life Michael was plagued by rumors that he had inappropriate relationships with his young playmates at his Neverland Ranch. An investigation by federal and local authorities in California failed to turn up any evidence of sexual misconduct with young boys.

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In 2005, Michael was acquitted of molesting then 13-year-old Gavin Arvizo during a 14-week criminal trial in Santa Barbara, California.

Oprah Winfrey, who is in Paris to attend fashion week events, reportedly watched the Michael Jackson documentary with David Geffen, the openly homosexual Hollywood mogul who has been the subject of many rumors himself.


 

Photos by Best Image / BACKGRID, Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images, Jim Ruyman-Pool/Getty Images, Connie Aramaki/Getty Images

  • SpiceGirl

    Welp....EVERYONE is entitled to THIER opinion....just be prepared for when you tell it to the WHOLE world....SOMEBODY will have SOMETHING to say.......

  • iWasteTime

    What did tweet 2 and 3 say?

  • Topic Influencer

    You might know one of them, because it was a huge pop music scandal
    ^^^^
    Britney Spears. Girl you should have just said it. We know

  • Topic Influencer

    Not sure why Oprah DID this. I'm pretty mad about it.

  • KcoolMuziq
  • Yardgirl

    OT: I just read that Luke Perry died!! ??? RIP Dylan!!!

  • bella28498 .

    So when is Oprah gonna expose herself about that all girl school she opened up so those girls could be raped on? Oprah home boy is Harvey Weinstein. Let’s keep it real records Oprah opened up that school in Africa with the intent of child sex trafficking. She had to close it down once the chit hit the fan.

  • Mielle Downey

    Eff you Oprah. What about the south African girls that were molested on your watch? When are we getting the documentary fir that scandal? Clean out your own backyard. I cant waht til you meet your maker and karma hits you with the worst documentary ever you pos.

  • valarie deacon

    My God! So are we just going to take every black icon's legacy away? Can't we have something? Who's next Luther?

  • LYRICS

    I'm not talking to Oprah, she "one of them".

    Luke Perry died, I need to go home and mourn!

  • Tinytoon

    Me too. RIP Luke Perry.

  • tintin

    Boo Oprah. Boo to you

  • Fire & Ice

    I just read it too ?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The reaction from some black people supporting either Michael Jackson and or R Kelly confirms to me that we as a people are a failed race.

  • Harley

    Omg RIP LUKE PERRY ???

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    You're more concerned about a legacy than human beings?
    GFY with a rusty pitchfork.

  • BorisBlack1

    White men are FINANCING organizations and movements headed by BLACK MAN HATING BLACK FEMINIST AKA BLACK LESBIANS to go after black men to take the heat off of them! There are 100x more white male entertainers and executives for every one black entertainer and black executive. There should at least be 10x more white men being boycotted, blackballed, fired, charged and jailed. You'd have to be really naive to think that these white men in power, AREN'T DOING AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE, the exact same thing for which black men are being boycotted, blackballed, fired, charged and jailed. #FIRSTTHEM

  • Youcan’tbanmesucka

    Backlash for what? Shitttttt mf'er thought he was Peter Pan!

  • EMILY POST

    Rip Luke Perry 90210 was the ish
    Oprah needs some attention... she was alive and her show was well during the MJ trial and MJ lifetime now here she comes in 2019...
    Now MJ was creepy as hell so it was always believable to me . A rich black man adopting white kids ?? His whole setup has always been just Weird so I wouldn’t doubt it.

  • Chaseboogie The Prince

    I just want to know why she didn't speak up earlier. She had him on her show a few times. She ooood and ahhhed about him. Now that he's dead, she's ready to agree to the accusations. I wasn't there so I can't say, but for her to be in that industry and hear the things she hears, why have him on your show and take pictures, and.... I'll just leave it at that.

  • Phillybruh

    In this instance, I think these two guys are full of shat.

  • sunni_daze

    What? Luke Perry died?

  • Phillybruh

    I'm just waiting for her to interview victims of her pals.

  • iWasteTime

    Y'all president still out here feeding College Athletes McDonald's and there is no furlough to blame it on

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Maybe but you have to admit that someone who escapes jail once for sleeping with little boys and does it again at least has a couple of screws loose.

  • AmericanDream

    Oprah or the story of the woman who had no problem throwing the people who helped raised her under the bus in order to push a narrative that was going to endear her to white America . This is the woman who said she grew up so poor with no pets and had to put two cockroaches in a a jar to pet them, saying the only doll she ever had was a corn cob doll . Except , it wasn’t true , she was raised for the first 6 years of her life by a grandmother who owned her house on 3 acres of land and who worked as a maid for the richest white family in their tiny Mississippi town (The Leonards) . She was surrounded by loving and doting aunts who showered her with attention and gifts and therefore was much better off ban most people in that tiny town

    Oprah , the woman who said she never got a hug from her grandmother who only smiled with the white kids and that nobody ever smiled when they saw her.Except there was a picture of her grandmother behind her desk lovingly putting her arms around her granddaughter.

    Why would anyone be surprised that such a woman is essentially telling us that law enforcement didn’t do their job and that a man who was declared not guilty on all 14 counts did what the courts said the accusation failed to provide sufficient proof? The man who gave her the biggest rating of her career ??? I stopped expecting anything of substance along time ago from a woman who made her name and fortune by being the educated and articulate ‘Mami’ to white Americans.

  • Pitty Patty

    Comes in singing "You're not alone", I'm am here with you"

    I need people to keep the same energy they had about Kellz to keep it with MJ.....

    I aint canceling either one...

  • Yoni7

    Who he feeding it to now?

  • Pitty Patty

    She had content to produce and money to make, DUH....

  • bella28498 .

    Americans love McDonald’s. Trust me I see the extremely long lines driving pass them everyday.

  • Phillybruh

    I think one married a 15yr old and peed on a 14yr old and warrants no support and the other was found not guilty and these current allegations come from two men who testified on his behalf on several occasions one of them was 27 when he testified on his behalf.

  • Mielle Downey

    The white man has pimp farms and own all of the industry hoes along with Epstein and his lil kids pleasure island and this "eat the whole village bish" is focused on one black man. We dont even own the means of production? So how are we a threat. A lot of us have the weirdo who is stuck in a child's kind like Michael and a pervert uncle like RKelly. no excuse but check you family tree first.

  • Rayne

    I know he got the sugar now.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    RIP Luke Perry! I grew up watching 90210!

  • iWasteTime
  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I'm #teamoprah on this.
    And I'm glad she was the one who did this. She's a billionaire, and an icon who can do what she wants without having to worry about being boycotted, or who's going to write her her next check. Good for her. #fearless

  • 2gr8ful

    All day ???

  • Mielle Downey

    Oparah was trafficking girls in south Africa so she needs to hush.

  • Pitty Patty

    Cancel culture is an extension of white supremacy. We canceling each other, they dont have to do the dirty work.

    We fall for it everytime. Divide and conquer. Wash rinse repeat...

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    You can just imagine if Obama had done this. The Republicans would be all in an uproar, of course.

  • Bossy704

    Oprah's been a sell-out. She's been fraud. She lied about everything - her diets, her upbringing, her sexuality, her body on the cover of her magazines don't look nothing like her. Who is listening to anything she has to say? Power hungry and cooning at the highest level. Let MJ rest in peace.

  • Chaseboogie The Prince

    Conspiracy theory time: They wanted to do a 90210 reboot. He was the only one to not sign on. He refused. Whatcha think, did they kill him or nah?

  • MrsSpice1

    Oprah will do anything to be accepted by whites over her own people dont be mislead by her so called pro blackness! Black ppl know that!!! Thats why it is sooooooo very important to stick by each other!!! The media is working overtime to destroy the black race famous or not right from
    Within on out!!! Smh! Wait till its her time and she see that the media and such white ppl she glorified throughout her career watch how they turn on her next!! She think she safe from ridicule and destruction yea ok we thought that about bill cosby too!!! Idc what nobody say MJ is INNOCENT RIP MIKE!

  • Phillybruh

    But you have to admit these two guys have had years to rehearse this story and he can't defend himself so they can literally create it as they go along. When it comes to MJ yes he spent an uncomfortable amount time with children that he was not related but I simply don't know and can't say if he was a pedo or a victim of opportuntistic parents. He didn't escape jail the 2nd time the opportunistic parent was exposed for all too see and these two dudes testified on his behalf.

  • bella28498 .

    Now MF’s too good to eat the HUMAN meat. ? just like the women at the club, when they have to buy themselves a drink it’s a white Zinfandel but when the man buys its top shelf or a bottle of champagne. ? ok

  • Phillybruh

    That's not entirely true, WW is tanking and Once Tyler takes his shows to BET it might be a struggle for her over on OWN.

  • hi-liter

    HBO is blacked out to DISH customers. I get soooo tired of DISH and their disputes with broadcast networks. We couldn’t em watch the NBA playoffs on ABC last year because DISH had blackout the station because of a dispute.

  • Erin

    Maybe she (Oprah) believed him until she heard something new that convinced her otherwise? I don't understand the Us vs Them narrative when it comes to being a pervert ala R Kelly & MJ? So because MJ is black Oprah has to defend a child molester? So as the Black Congregation we defend Robert & Michael (child rape) but crucify Jussie (lying)? I don't understand am I missing something?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Victim of opportunistic parents? Wow just wow!!
    Yeah, what are you a defense lawyer?
    Are you practicing to be Trump's impeachment lawyer?
    Ha,ha,ha!!

  • SoulfulLove

    offtopic: Luke Perry done gone to the upper room. R.I.P

  • MrsSpice1

    Rt because she put white ppl before her own ppl! And you got the nerve to have a black icon like Frederick dougals as ur av...foh! Yes let society and the media fulfil what they after pitting blacks against blacks against till we successfully wipe our selves out for them!

  • 2gr8ful

    This was my show RIP Luke.... a lot of actors and comedians seem to die in their 50’s so sad.

  • Yardgirl

    Well he was already on the show Riverdale so I am not sure if they would have allowed him to do both shows????? I heard that he was a heavy smoker and that could have contributed to him having the stroke. Sad.

  • Meme

    I'm not sure who or what to believe, however Corey Feldman and McCauley caulkin said they're lying

  • SpillyNillie

    I never thought MJ was innocent. However, the man is dead and gone now. What's the point in all of this??

  • Phillybruh

    Nah, I'm not doing either, but stop acting like opportunist don't exsist.

  • Fire & Ice

    Oprah has NEVER like Michael Jackson, so non of this surprises me. I wouldn't be surprised if she helped to finance this documentary.

  • Pitty Patty

    Fredrick's second was a white woman...#Neverforget

  • And then there is that!

    I'm upset at the fact he isn't here to defend himself. This is a huge smear campaign. Let that man rest in peace or rot in hell. Either way this shouldn't have ever seen the light of day. So disappointed.

  • hi-liter

    Both of these men are appealing their cases against the Jackson Estate....this documentary just may help them win this time.

  • Kimocha

    Unlike R. Kelly, I never believed MJ was guilty of this BS... And these 2 dudes repeatedly testified that he never touched them and wanna wait damn near 10 yrs after his death to come out with these BS allegations... I'm gonna believe Brandi on this one and I ain't ever watching that damn documentary either!... And Oprah can go straight to hell!... RIP MJ!

  • LYRICS

    mmmhmmmm….

  • Cricket404

    LOL, I believe it too. Are we supposed to take blacks folks indignities to the grave, why? I didn't know MJ just listened to his music. He wasn't checking for the culture, he didn't bring black kids from Compton to Neverland, he brought little white boys from fame seeking families. The allure of idols is dangerous, Oprah knows that, she's seen a thing or two in her lifetime. Fame probably created a monster, and he had wolves working to throw wool over the sheep's eyes. I'm sure MJ's behavior is typical of pedophilia, the grooming, manipulating parents, expressions of everlasting love, the threat of taking love away, secrecy, MARRIAGE!!! MJ's "baby boys" have been running, drugging and taking money for over 25 years, this is where their lives got #*cked up AND it was the best times of their lives at the same damn time. Smh.

  • Lady_Elle

    Ph*ck Oprah!
    She will do ANYTHING for a headline!

  • Kimocha

    Right!... Just to stay relevant!

  • hi-liter

    One of them said MJ hair was like a Brillo Pad......someone is lying. Jerricurls are soft and wet, not hard and dry.

  • 2gr8ful

    He was one of my favorites on that show and is Brenda (Shannon D) still sick? She has had some health issues as well. Maybe he knew he was not healthy enough to sign on RIP.

  • Renee26

    Bet he didn't tip the employees either

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    That's hilarious because black folk were trashing Mike right and left after he died and left the bulk of his estate to his white 'children'.

    But I know most black people think with their emotions and not with logic.

  • Meme

    I don't think it's us vs them in that aspect, in so much as, more a case of woody Allen is still making movies the people who abused the Coreys are still walking free *cough* (Charlie sheen)

  • millz

    Crazy he dies after the announcement of the reboot for the show which he said he had no interest in returning...

  • bella28498 .

    MJ was investigated by the FBI for 10 years and nothing turned up. So he’s innocent.

  • Elevated Soul

    I can't stand Oprah but I most definitely believe that Michael Jackson was a damn pedophile.I bet he and R.Kelly compared notes especially since they were do "cool".

  • Meme

    Which hair he talking bout?

  • hi-liter

    ?.......

  • Renee26

    Reading what the former maid said was troubling....the people who cover up for celebs in instances of wrong doing are sick mf's too.

  • Ebony Starr

    I read that. RIP.

  • Lady_Elle

    So... Oprah is ready for the backlash?

    Those who subscribe to her magazine... cancel your subscription if you are outraged at her opportunistic behavior.

    Those who subscribe to her channel... cancel your subscription if you are outraged at her opportunistic behavior.

    Anything else she is pushing ESPECIALLY any future movies...

    Opportunistic B*tch!

  • Phillybruh

    Still doesn't mean he's pedophile. I can not agree with both of them.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    And don't pretend that MJ didn't have predatory tendencies.

  • Pitty Patty

    "Youre not aloooooone" I am here with you....

    They both knew what was up. MJ knew about Kellz marrying Aaliyah, but still chose to work with him....

  • Jazzy

    Not that hair my dear.

  • Phillybruh

    I don't know the man too say either, Its a draw. There is a case for both. He's dead they had their chance at a pound of flesh when he was alive.

  • hottlanta

    Any response from monique yet.

  • Kimocha

    "Opportunistic B*tch!"
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That part!

  • Jazzy

    Actually, she doesn't have to do anything for a headline. She's probably the most famous person in Hollywood.

  • Phillybruh

    That's going to be a good one.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Jussie is an out and proud black gay man.

  • hi-liter

    Oh.....I heard it on the radio this morning, I didn’t watch........but ain’t Most people “hair down there course?..

  • Pitty Patty

    Oprah aint worried about you ni&Gas....

    LMAO. You think WE are the ones who made her rich. If all black people boycotted her right now, she won't lose a wink of sleep. She stopped being on of US a long, long long time ago. She'll scrap all the "black" shows on OWN and replace them with white content...she's too big to cancel.

  • Elevated Soul

    Indeed..... He knew what was up and so did his family.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    And those close calls with almost going to jail didn't change his behavior.

  • NewNew

    Luke Perry died y'all. For some reason I'm shocked.

  • Kim’s Original Face

    Oprah needs to sit this one out!

    Has she addressed the sexual abuse that happened/happens at her schools in Africa?

  • Lady_Elle

    I agree with what you are saying...
    Time will tell about her being too big to cancel.
    White folk aren't subscribing to her channel for the black content.
    White folk have a way of dropping you w/o a minutes notice... they fickle like that!

  • Kanyade

    https://media.giphy.com/media/GdligItCkJq9i/giphy.gif

    90210 was a part of my youth...so much so, that it made it into my Senior Book.

    RIP Dylan McKay.

  • SpillyNillie

    If I remember correctly, MJ admitted to sleeping in bed with these boys. What grown man want's to sleep with little boys that are not his own? Say what you want, but that's not normal and shouldn't be made to seem normal because it was "MJ"

  • Phillybruh

    It didn't I seem to recall him leaving the country for about 6 years living in the middle east and the all over the U.K. Lets not act like this man was treated with kid gloves here in the states for his crazy behavior. I remember the nastiness that they treated that man with after the allegations, both times. He wasn't his usual crazy after the first allegations and was full gone crazy by the 2nd ones.

  • Faithz

    Oh my goodness here we go again Yall.

  • AndSo

    The man was widely suspected to be gay. He surrounded himself with prepubescent little white boys and had inappropriate sleepovers with them on the regular. FOR YEARS. It's not a stretch to come to the conclusion that his sexual preference was actually for little boys and that he was a pedophile. Anyone who refuses to admit that that is a very real possibility is being willfully ignorant. We just didn't want to see him in that light, but making excuses ain't going to change the fact that the man fit the profile.

  • Yardgirl

    Shannon was diagnosed with breast cancer but last I heard she was in remission.

  • hi-liter

    Weren’t both of these men Adults when they testified that MJ didn’t molest them? If he violated them, they could have not testified, could have said no to testifying on his behalf.

  • Kanyade

    "that all girl school she opened up so those girls could be raped"
    ---------
    I mean I recall her opening a school and I recall there being some shadiness going down with administration and the handling of things, but I didn't know she opened the school for the purpose of raping chirrens and trafficking them.

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/IHi6hasSwv2fe/giphy.gif

  • NewNew

    I never did believe it either & I won't be watching that mockumentary either. . I believed it about R Kelly (i was a fan of his music) and I believed it about Bill Cosby (still a fan of the Cosby Show) but never about Michael. My gut just said "No".
    Lord help me & the "victims" if I'm wrong.

  • Nina Ross

    What does David geffen have on her?? And what is she really doing with that all-girl school in South Africa???

  • Phillybruh

    But I also recall that the beds were the size of bedroom and he would sleep on the floor. These two boys testified to that when they were grown men.

  • Nina Ross

    Me too

  • Phillybruh

    One even performed with Janet during the scream performance at the MTV awards right after his death.

  • Yardgirl

    It was a part of mine too!! ?

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    I always believed he COULD HAVE been a pe/do. Look at his abusive upbringing. Living in the LA, you only need to know one good connected person to get the solid 411. I can not repeat it but Joe Jackson was the scum of the earth & Kathy failed to protect her children.

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    I told y’all there is a power struggle taking place between some powerful men and women in this country. There are some very POWERFUL women seeking to gain control of this country. Can you guess who these powerful black and white women are? The really sad part about this whole thing is that many of these powerful women are no better than their male counterparts.

  • Nina Ross

    MJ owned the beetles catalog, James Bond music... beat all Elvis records... wypipo are big mad:/

  • AndSo

    So young.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond
  • hottlanta

    Where were the parents. If he did it they should go 2 jail n the boys need 2 sue them for putting them in that position 2 b with him.

  • KcoolMuziq
  • AndSo

    I agree with you there. The parents were irresponsible. But it doesn't change the fact the MJ engaged in some very creepy behaviors at best.

  • Ryan

    Stingy fool. They can get Mickey D's anytime. I remember when my parents would come down and take me and my roommate to Waffle House and that fool would always get the steak lol. These kids are broke and want something other than broke food whenever they can get it!!

  • Nina Ross

    But obviously NOT the most powerful... MJ thing is just a diversion for Weinstein

  • Pitty Patty

    Whew chilay.......Tisk, tisk.....

  • Stationarity

    You know people love to stretch and change stuff and prove to the internet how “enlightened” and smart they are with their conspiracies.

    My recollection is the same as yours.

  • hi-liter

    Seem like it’s all about Opportunity with both of them.

  • Tlowe89

    No the boy wasn’t talking about Micahels pubic hair. He was talking about his hair on his head. Sorry to be graphic, but he said when Michael would go down on him he would make the boy put his hand on his head and he said michaels hair felt rough, like a brilo pad

  • Pitty Patty

    Michael was probably turned out by Qunicy Jones.....cause we all know Quicy goes both ways...

  • Kanyade

    He's cheap. LOL or he really loves burgers. Or both.

  • hottlanta

    Betta say it. I remember paul mccarthy on tv crying like a bytch saying he doesnt answer my calls. That is one thing Michael learned from father joe is how 2 b a ruthless businessman n beat them at their own game. They would love 2 own Michael music catalog. Even in death he got that shyt on lock.

  • SpillyNillie

    MJ admitted that he slept in the bed with them. Now the size of the bed, I don't know. He also said it was to show his love for them. All of it is inappropriate.

  • hi-liter

    Okay....that’s what I thought. MJ hair was processed as hell at that time. That’s why I say it’s some lies being told.

  • Erin

    No I get that but that's like saying don't convict a murderer until all murderers are convicted! Wrong is wrong. Some get caught some don't but that doesn't make is ok IMO.

  • Coy little wink

    Oprah was molested as a child so I'm not surprised at her taking the accusers sides...

    I don't buy music anymore and can't see MJ in concert so....

    Lady in my life and human nature still my jams

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Stingy?
    Trump isn't a billionaire. I doubt his net worth is over $100 million.

  • Nina Ross

    Wypipo are extremely insecure especially with anybody that defies their lies on ‘white supremacy’... they ain’t going back to the caves by any means necessary

  • Phillybruh

    He said he shared his bed. Nothing about being in the bed with them. I dunno, He's dead and he can't defend himself.

  • dru and neil

    I wonder why Oprah even cares to rehash this again. Wade Robson has been at it with the allegations and lawsuits before and she wasn’t involved or speaking for him, so what’s so different this time around.

  • Nina Ross

    Diversion for Weinstein & Bryan Singer... orchestrated by supreme pedo David geffen

  • Tlowe89

    Yea and in the documentary they have recordings where he was always calling the one family and talking to their son and the conversation was just weird and the fact that you are a grown man staying the night over a little boys house and calling him all the time to have looooong conversation. Nothing about that sits right. More importantly that should’ve been the main clue to gth away from him is when he got Neverland. What grown man has a home intentionally designed for a child. He needed Iyanla way before her time and before he started messing with kids.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    LOL

  • Coy little wink

    What she say?

  • Soda

    MJ was weirdo who acted like he was Peter Pan, always dressing as a toy soldier. Even Prince sometimes put on regular clothes and rode his bike around town. Elton John took off his costumes. Some of y'all act like because he could moon walk he could also walk on water. ? He was a mere mortal. And the only black thing he seemed to like was soul music.

  • Pitty Patty

    Wypipo are extremely insecure especially with anybody that defies their lies on ‘white supremacy’... they ain’t going back to the caves by any means necessary
    ________________________________________
    This took me OWT....

  • Nina Ross

    Pedowood

  • bella28498 .

    That gif ?..... by the time the public found out Oprah had ready had her Shady dealings neatly swept under the rug. Oprah is a dirty evil bish.

  • Lovely517

    I wish people would just leave MJ alone and let that man rest in some sort of peace. Honestly, I never felt like he molested those kids. I believed MJ had to grow up very quickly and did not have a real childhood. He was trapped in the mind of a teenager. Therefore, I believe he just always felt more comfortable around children. He felt that bond and wanted some companionship :(

  • Tlowe89

    But still a child has no business sleeping in the room with a grown man if there are other rooms and if he’s no relation to you and still at times that’s a bit off to

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I said what I said, and I stand by it. Have a nice day.
    #sorrynotsorry #blocked

  • Pitty Patty

    White folks say if we going down we taking EVERYBODY down. Its happening right before our eyes....

  • SpillyNillie

    They slept in the same bed. Obviously, "shared" is based on perspective.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    What does any of those things have to do with MJ continuing to sleep with little boys?

  • Phillybruh

    I'm not disagreeing with you, it wouldn't be my child. But many have testified these two men included that the sleeping arrangements were not what they sound like.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    #billionaireproblems.

    That may be so, but you get my point. . Oprah's at mogul status. She's not worrying about who gets mad. Good for her.

  • Phillybruh

    After the first allegations what little boys where their? These two boys predate the first allegation?

  • Elevated Soul

    Many Black people can't accept the truth or even the possibility of truth especially when it concern a celebrity. They make EVERYTHING about a conspiracy.

    Michael Jackson didn't give a damn about Black people and neither does that family. From what I hear he pretty much only dealt with Black people when he was in trouble because he knew he could use Black people while pretending to be the victim of the "White man" that he always coveted when not in trouble.

  • Soda

    They marked down the sale price of his home 70%, from a ridiculous $100M to 30M last week. https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/04/michael-jacksons-former-neverland-ranch-gets-super-size-price-chop-10/

  • Phillybruh

    No I get she is a billionare, but if white folks ever turn she will almost always try and come back home like they all do.

  • Vonn

    Unless this took place after his hair caught fire. After that, he probably used a fire retardant coating on his JC. He wasn't taking any chances after that.

  • Coy little wink

    Didn't Wade date Britney Spears? what Britney got to say about his pillow talk?

  • Phillybruh

    Neverland ranch isn't owned by the estate

  • hi-liter

    It’s sad that they Both waited until MJ was six feet under to claim sexual abuse. Why didnt they do it when he was living and breathing? Wait until he can’t defend himself and just put this out here and let public opinion do the work. Some real Slick shit.

  • Seldomseen

    What!

  • Tlowe89

    Ahhhh see I didn’t know that. I do find michaels interactions highly suspect and inappropriate.. but I also noticed differences between this documentary and R.Kellys
    1) why is it only the boys and their families interviewing, why aren’t their any friends, managers, handlers, dancers, staff, etc being interviewed. I understand his family being smarter than R.Kellys family to not interview but their literally nobody else.
    2) So I have yet to see anybody shed a tear. I saw the one guy present to get choked up and it was horrible acting. On R.Kellys docu they were boohooing all over the place.

    I’m gone sit back and wait and see what all falls out of the wood works before I jump to either side, but I will say some of the phone recordings and details on the documentary were disturbing to me

  • Phillybruh

    Because one was still working with him and using his name as a reference in the industry.

  • Pitty Patty

    Keep that same energy with RKelly tooo. He too had a mind of a teenager and was sexually abused by his sister for 8 years...Kellz feels comfortable around young girls, like Mike felt comfortable around young boys.....

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The boys who accused MJ during the second trial.

  • Soda

    Did I say it was? Maybe I should have said his former home.

  • bella28498 .

    I’m not here to sell u on anything. U either believe it or u don’t. I know the truth and u never know who your talking to on the internet. People that are in the know are everywhere including this site. We are in here alllllll the time.

  • Phillybruh

    You implied with his home

  • Phillybruh

    Well they were exposed a liars weren't they. The jury is on record as saying they didn't believe them.

  • Elevated Soul

    I have never heard a Black woman call herself a feminist.?

    Stop making everything about the White man. One of the reasons why these issues persist in the Black Community because people like you want to cover them up.

    Michael Jackson made everything about White people so why are so insistent in defending him? He cut his own family out of his will it he made sure those White children he claimed got paid. He gave his legacy to White people.

  • Soda

    Whatever. Elvis is dead but people still call Graceland his home.

  • CyberSuccubus

    People forget that Oprah is a journalist, unlike the latest crop of TV personalities to spring up over the years. I doubt she cares about sides, she is asking the questions we want asked and allowing the public to come to their own conclusions. Journalism.

  • Tlowe89

    She said she saw boys underwear in his room and his underwear and boys underwear near the jacuzzi. Also she said she saw him “fondling” them but went on to say by fondling she meant ruffling their hair and hugs

  • Coy little wink
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    i won't try to figure out Oprah, but one 'logical' reason for her believing the alleged victims may be the fact that she is also a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. I haven't seen the broadcast, and i'm not familiar with these 'victims' so i can't really comment on what's believable or not.

  • Kimocha

    Lord help us both if we wrong cuz I have always felt in my gut that he didn't do this BS either...

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree. I don't know why people are swearing up and down that it's not possible for him to be a pedo. How many of us would be OK with a next door neighbor who's grown and all his "best friends" are young boys? How many of us would be willing to send their 8 year old son to sleep over at his house... and in his bed? We all know that's not normal behavior.
    .

  • Well$$Well$$?

    I'm not watching the doc not because this subject isnt interesting but because I don't have HBO.
    MJ was super talented but I've learned in life to never put anything past anyone. I don't care how docile or nice they seem..

  • Judi Jupiter

    That dude looks like a lying fame whore.. that is all. And didnt Oprah go to his house herself and not find anything suspicious when she interviewed him??.. I still dont believe it.

  • IAmLegend

    I would hope that people in the know would know the difference between your and you're.

  • Phillybruh

    I think its entirely possible that he was a pedophile. But not these two dudes though I just don't believe them.

  • Topic Influencer

    I'm familiar.

    Who asked her to ask these questions NOW? Why now? Why period?

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Michael was known to wear jerricurl wigs at the time. It's unlikely he kept it on 24/7.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    yeah, i thought it was reported that there were 1 or 2 staff members responsible and that O dealt with the situation pretty swiftly https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c5524b933f3a29872256af8b9d30b4c9ec5914b980fdc0a0817cbbe688aa153.gif

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!
  • Stationarity

    I would hope that you too don’t just believe unsubstantiated statements from nameless/faceless people on the internet. But that’s just me. I just have a higher standard.

    You are right. I don’t know who I am talking to and I suppose you could be one of Oprah’s inner circle or the head of a sex trafficking ring in South Africa or whoever...but idk

    I will guess that you are unwilling to give any evidence because you are someone special and you know the truth and it’s not your job so I won’t even ask.

    Have a good day.

  • bella28498 .

    Actually we do.... I’m just typing sometime auto correct put in what it want to. You’re = you are and your is belonging to akeelah and the bee. I don’t know what it is about the truth that aggravate the hell out of people.

  • Yardgirl

    Yes he died???

  • CyberSuccubus

    I wonder if she feels some sort of obligation to. She interviewed him 26 years ago & addressed the allegations. Then she interviewed him and Lisa Marie to find out if they were serious about the 'marriage', etc. Perhaps now that the doc is out she feels she's the right person to address these boys. She may be the only journalist who even got close to the man.

  • hottlanta

    Meanwhile the guy from 7th heaven is still walking around here free as a bird n nobody bothers him.

  • NewNew

    I usually err on the side of believing the victim so this stance is unusual for me. Gonna trust my gut on this one for now.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    I don’t believe these two.

  • bemetoo

    They were there in the guest house sleeping in presidential suites

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs
  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Which one? Never watched that show.. Out his a$$ too???

  • WhoKnew

    You forgot to add David Geffen, her friend....

  • bella28498 .

    LIKE I SAID U DON’T KNOW WHO U ARE TALKING TO ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!! People like u arr the reason why no one come forward with information because even with a whole video tape of nefarious dealings u still will not believe it! That’s not my problem. I’m not trying to sell u the game.

  • Connie

    Lady in my life and human nature still my jams
    ~~~~
    ^^^^This! So much teenage memories man!

  • Ni Ni

    Good point, she is a victim.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Oprah is not a fan of the Jackson family period. I remember seeing a clip on youtube when she and Gail arrived to the family compound for an interview. They had the nastiest looks on their faces. It was really interesting to see that's how she really feels about them.

    Oprah doing this interview makes their story plausible in the eyes of certain people because of who she is. Is there any reason she has yet to do a story on Harvey Weinstein or even Roman Polanski?

  • Dun Dilly

    Y'all know MJ was a bit "PEDI"...stop playing.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    the daddy. And the show's still in syndication.

  • Ni Ni

    Omg, that was fast.

  • ALLMINE?

    She gotta make sure she ain't next.. that's why she did it..

  • Topic Influencer

    No she is not. He was close to Martin Bashir who is a journalist as well. And after the way he did him, he was done with journalists and made it KNOWN. THAT is the wish she should respect. As a journalist.

  • Stationarity

    How did you come to that conclusion? You are reaching some more. Have you ever seen or read me deny something that happened from a tape. You don’t have a video tape. You don’t have statements. You don’t have anything. You don’t have anything but your word...whoever you are.

    People like me don’t believe nameless fonts on the internet unless they have some other corroborating evidence besides “you don’t know who you are talking to” That’s all. No need to make other stuff up.

    I am very supportive of people who come forward.

  • the guest

    First thing I thought of. Personally and ethically as a victim she can’t rebuke the accusers even if she doesn’t believe them.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    *sigh* but by sleeping with them MJ gave them ammunition.
    MJ's behavior was at best self-destructive.

  • Li-Wright

    the men are believable and I always believed MJ "touched" the little boys, but didn't think he went further than that. But IT'S TOO LATE!!!! How much did they get paid to testify FOR MJ?

  • the guest

    Yes he did.

  • Li-Wright

    I always believed he was a "toucher". He admitted to sleeping with them. But....IT'S TOO LATE!

  • samuel severino

    No, he wasn’t. There was a private FBI investigation for over 10 years on Michael and they couldn’t find a thing. AND THEY WANTED TO FIND SOMETHING and they still couldn’t. The industry put out those rumors to smear and control Michael and ultimately gain control of his catalog. Michael was repeatedly raped and molested by B*%# G*#*, J*^ +%# and Tatum O’N*%# and S**%#. He hated pedophilia.

  • the guest

    EXACTLY.

  • Phillybruh

    I absolutely agree with that.

  • Connie

    Big lip Steve Harvey said it best "I aint got no 8 year old buddies!"

  • Topic Influencer

    This is NOT good journalism. This is a witch hunt. For a DEAD MAN. I've never seen anything quite like it and AS a journalist, Oprah should be fukkin ashamed of herself. Nobody was like, "say O, how about digging up MORE DIRT on MIKE?"

    Hell if we spinning it like well this is what journalists do, she is a REAL journalist, then in that case so is Wendy Joan Williams. THAT is the level I view this bullshit Oprah done pulled.

  • Cricket404

    Because they loved him. Now he is dead.

  • ALLMINE?

    He's white. Since when did black folks start believing that we'll be treated like them? We don't even own a damn thing.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Wade even danced with Janet for MJ's MTV tribute in 2009.

  • the guest

    Tell it!

  • Phillybruh

    Let's be honest Steve Harvey gets on grown peoples nerves what 8 yr old would want too...lol

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    d@mn! your statement just gave me the CREEPS. *shudders*

    protect your children at all times (fugg folks and their feelings)

  • Phillybruh

    Years of rehearsal can do that too a story.

  • the guest

    David Geffen controls EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING in Hollywood directly and indirectly. He has something on and over EVERYONE.

  • Cricket404

    What you just said is what the media told you how to think about it. His spinsters were the best that money could pay for.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!
  • samuel severino

    You shouldn’t believe them. Wade Robson was just doing Michael Jackson tribute shows 2 years ago. He also tried to become the choreographer and creative director for the Cirque Du Soleil MJ snow in Las Vegas but they turned him down. I have known Wade for years. He is an effin snake and was running out of money.
    HOW WERE YOU JUST DOING TRIBUTE SHOWS if you were so torn and hurt and conflicted all these years?? FOH.

  • justlooking

    I'm DONE! I'm going to be in a corner humming in silence.

  • the guest

    What this whole things tells us is that white people’s lies still trump black merit and credibility in a racist society.

  • samuel severino

    They are not believable. Period. How much you wanna bet that on his deathbed Wade fesses up?

  • Phillybruh

    Or is what your saying is what the media wants you too say?

  • Banka

    He was sooooooo pedi, that only two guys came forward ! Things that make ya say hmmmmmm...

  • samuel severino

    He has been outed. Years ago.

  • bella28498 .

    I laugh at people like you. I said what I said and i stand by my statements. Unless you have had a seat at the table u don’t know chit and it’s obvious.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    *gags*

  • Anyway

    Oprah is nothing more than a puppet for Hollywood Zionist Jews. This tap dancing mami day is coming. Oprah's karma will be epic.

  • Logan Roberts

    We'll never know the truth. And I always thought Oprah was fake as hell.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!
  • hi-liter

    I Don’t buy that.

  • Connie

    True...but you get the point

  • samuel severino

    Oprah has been holding on to a personal gripe to MJ for years. This is why she was so ready to jump on a co-sign this bs that she knows isn’t true. She will not be able to handle the backlash though because Oprah believes that she is revered and that people will find no fault with her. But she has her own frazzle dripping mess to keep buried which is why she will never run for office.

  • Carrington

    First off, when you're a grown assed MARRIED man with a child and you testify at your molester's molestation trial that he's NEVER touched you... you don't get a do over. Ever. There was NO reason Wade had to testify on behalf of Michael during that trial. He was a grown assed man and had a wife and child of his own.
    He has NO credibility to me.

  • Applebum

    This satanist hag. She’s done a lot of filthy sick things to be in her position. When I was a kid I did believe the lies. It wasn’t until he died I did my research and I was floored. Michael was a great man and was so powerful. They wanted him dead for many many years. He spoke against the powerful elites. He exposed a lot of people. They thought he was an idiot that only knew music. He blindsided them turned the table on them when he owned the rights to big powerful artist like the Beatles, Gags, etc.

    When you go against the establishment they will never let you Rest In Peace. They will continue to destroy you in death. I can’t wait for Hollywood to burn and crumbles. Sick twisted demons.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Oprah takin a bold stance. I Wonda does she know som’n we don’t know. Wade Robson tawkin bout he was brain washed by MJ...but no sooner than MJ died,alla those surpressed feelings came to surface. Wade was about money,I’m glad the judge saw through his lies. Iono if MJ was a pedo or not,but it ain’t to far fetched

  • Reina1718

    Wade is disgusting!

  • Applebum

    Exactly. She has a lot of skeletons in her bag.

  • Reina1718

    Ofcourse, she the 1st black woman 2 lie to black ppl about white folk! She is her to brain wash us

  • Reina1718

    Thank u!

  • Bashi22

    I will never place Oprah in any high authority of how she embarrassed “Luda on her show”

  • Reina1718

    They lied too many times & switched too many stories

  • Reina1718

    I doubt he will fess up now

  • Reina1718

    There it is

  • Applebum

    White people will never call out their own no matter how twisted they really are. But you’ll always find a black person to do so. Black people are controlled by money. No matter how rich they are they really don’t have any power still.

  • Reina1718

    Thank u! They wanted to find something so bad!

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Yes! That’s what I’m thinking.

  • Reina1718

    & will most likely start acting again.

  • Applebum

    Exactly. Let them believe the media. Some people like to be spoon fed. Oh well.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Woody Allen as well.

  • KneeSee

    Well, I don't see the point in these documentaries. MJ is dead and has already been judged by The Most High. There should be some peace in knowing he has had to answer to any and everything he did wrong.

  • Musiclover

    What did she say to Luda that was embarrassing ?

    Update I found the article on it . If true that was messed up I don’t like him using those words either but he should’ve not even went on her show , even I know she was going to ask those questions.

  • Joy King

    In Oprah’s defense, she is a victim of childhood molestation, so I think she’s always drawn to giving other victims a platform for their voice to be heard. The problem is everyone isn’t a victim. Some folks are just liars looking for money, sympathy and attention.

    To drag a man’s name, who is no longer alive to defend himself is just wrong. Michael Jackson was acquitted of charges and these same two men stated under oath, they were never molested by MJ. Out of all the so called victims in this world, why would she or anybody else give them a platform to spread unsubstantiated lies. It’s a disgrace. Folks no longer need genuine receipts to destroy a person’s reputation. Because I said so, is the new standard. With the bar set so low, no one is safe, including you Oprah.

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com Ms.Devereaux

    I don’t know if he did it or not but MJ was a weird character as a result of how he was raised and possible things that happened to him. I feel like if it was any other grown man hanging around children ppl would suspect something. I’m not sure if he molested little boys or not but he is someone I wouldn’t have allowed my son to hang it with. Now as far as these two men the little few mins I caught that one guy didn’t come across as being truthful it seems like bad acting. Maybe he did molest some boys just not these boys. IDK ????? Someone needs to start a victim protection program where ppl of all races and colors and genders can come immediately and report rape and molestation and an open dialogue on how important it is to come forward IMMEDIATELY the sooner the better the chance you have of getting justice ?????

  • SpillyNillie

    I agree. Said below that I don't understand why it's being brought up. The man is dead and gone. He did however engage in some questionable/inappropriate activities is all I'm saying.

  • Cricket404

    Nah, what makes you say he didn't have a childhood, he did. That his mind is teenager like, he was an adult man. Why did he not feel comfortable around adults? If he was so damaged one way, why can't he be damaged another way, because he's black? Has money? Is talented?

  • TheOwley

    MJ rebelled against the luciferians, so yeah, she's mad. Look at the people she is with. MJ knew.

  • Musiclover

    Dang it’s like people want if they could bring back MJ from the died just to prosecute him all over again. His been gone now almost 10 years let him ,his estate, his money,and family be at peace.

  • Navybeans95

    The man is dead...smh..let's go after the living predators....

  • MsSapphire9800

    Why is Oprah outrage now and not when he was charged....why she didn't interview these same 2 guys when MJ was living. It is like we are going to destroy black men but keep white images and dirt on hold.

  • Stationarity

    It’s obvious cause I have NEVER claimed to have a seat at “the table”.

  • Meme

    I appreciate your point

  • Meme

    To be honest i havent been following the whole hoohar however i actually meant hair on head or....

  • Cie Be

    Sorry to say but Oprah has totally sold out to hollyweird, and satan....Needless to say, speaking ill of the deceased is not good on any level.....She may truly pay for the greed & popularity she have already accomplished when it' all said and done......really sad!

  • Tiffany Miller

    Did Monique not tell us the type of person Oprah was? But we give so much credit to the few successful African Americans we have. Nobody is perfect... and to be honest... She may have been blackmailed into supporting this simply because she doesn't want to end up like Cosby. We don't know what skeletons she has. People such as herself and Steve Harvey will take money over integrity.

  • bella28498 .

    Ok then so we had this discussion for no reason.

  • Renee26

    Said he would rotate boys and keep them in his room for days on end having playtime...she had to sign an NDA while working there and it took a while for her to get his approval to clean his room. When she did clean it she found boys underwear as well as his laying around the bed and in bathrooms. She said she found old crusty dried up boy draws hidden in his room (souvenirs). Said MJ and his people kept the staff in line with death threats.

  • Tiffany Miller

    Unfortunately, the facts surrounding this allegation are alarming. It was very inappropriate for him to have such a close personal relationship with children. Sending faxed love notes and calling everyday is not normal.... Even IF it was truly innocent... it just doesn't look right and opens the door for a well manufactured lie.

  • BorisBlack1

    It use to be plenty of them calling themselves feminist headed by Bell Hooks, Alice Walker and Audre Lorde. If look at early pictures of them, they all had white girlfriends and or white husbands before turning lesbian. In current times, they've had to admit that white feminism really didn't include black women so, I guess, they changed their name to womanist. Shrugs, same shit (ie heterosexual black men haters) under a different name.

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    White man and black women have teamed up to destroy the black man

  • Coy little wink
  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Exactly!

  • samuel severino

    Ding ding ding. We have a winner!

  • samuel severino

    1) she is personal friends with them
    2) reason #2 people are not ready for the real truth on Mother Oprah and why she is so comfortable with them

  • Dowoop

    Yes she can.

  • Nina Ross

    He probably had to ‘act weird’ to stay alive while buying up all that white music... we all see what happened once they caught on

  • Topic Influencer

    Or hell the man she watched this with last night. David Geffen. Im beyond pissed at her. If she wants to help abuse victims so fukkin MUCH she could have started with Mo'nique. And I dont even LIKE Mo. But hell you brung HER family including her molestor up there ON the show. Yet these folks get a "chance to tell their story". Im a fan of Oprah but she has quickly gotten on my damn nerves as of late.

  • AndSo

    Exactly. The man fit the profile of a you know what to a tee.

  • Nina Ross

    So true... same reason Dave Chappell ran off to Africa

  • Yui

    I suppose old Oprah’s butt didn’t do her research either. Oh well, people will hang on to hearsay and fibs instead of fact checking. Whatevs

  • what?why

    Oprah is a little late on the uptake here - um-m-m-m interesting that she was silent through MJ's trial. Why? She and Gayle are all over the news lately - um-m-m-m that's also interesting.

  • Nina Ross

    Don’t forget Bryan Singer

  • Ni Ni

    True. I've noticed members of the blog who were victims do this as well.

  • Renee26

    IKR... The boys said he treated them special and told them they were his "firsts"... I can see it. Spending days on end brainwashing and prepping them for his special loving moments

    Something like a couple locking themselves away in a house to fugg, eat and sleep for days on end.

  • Yui

    Coz she has to show that she supports the latest fad, #metoo. And to her and the sheeple, Mike’s an easy target. Damn the fact the FBI couldn’t find a thing on him after a decade long investigation. It’s easier to accept, as I quote MJ, “junk food.”

  • Dowoop

    Oh my!

  • Coy little wink

    He did that shyt!

  • Dowoop

    So it all circles back to money.

  • Prettybrowneound35

    Yet she remains silent about R. Kelly. Yeah, ok Oprah.

  • Renee26

    I think so too

  • MsSapphire9800

    Maybe it's me...I do not understand the reason for the so-called documentary...when he has been decease 10 yrs and can not defend himself....social media is the new lynch mob....no one is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

  • Chicagowise

    Oprah wants another talk show, but her pride is in the way. She promised she was done with that side of the business, but she misses having a platform to address the daily headlines.

  • Chicagowise

    Michael is dead and R is still here to defend himself.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    It takes Donald Trump to tell you all just how Insecure Oprah really is!!! Monique wins again. Firdt, Lee Daniels, now Oprah. Yall gone learn todsy!!!

  • hottlanta

    I was done with oprah when she retired n put trashy azz loud azz no class rosie o donnell in her spot.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Damn they trying to kill Michael in the grave. Fools, he is already dead!!! Get a life, Including Oprah.

  • Elevated Soul

    No one on this earth can throw stones but I will assume that most people have also not committed criminal acts either.

    Pedophiles damage the spirits of their victims and they need to be held accountable. Michael's family always made excuses for him and so does his fans.

  • Katherine

    How can these claims be fact checked? It's always going to be their words against Michael Jackson's. No one knows for sure except those 3 individuals, the 2 accusers and Michael.

  • Yui

    Like I tell folks, do some research. It’s public record.

  • Yui

    Yeah, it’s ashame. That’s why I don’t mess around with it, lol, Disqus is the closest thing I use on the regular.

    But in terms of the documentary, Safecheck and Wade were quiet until the estate didn’t want to give them payouts. Sign one, that it’s all BS.

  • Nathan Hastings

    Oprah doesn't care about the backlash from you niggas. She's getting white money...???

  • facingrealit1

    Oprah is just like all the other "elite" Negroes who don't care anything about her own people. Hell she already told us that when she explained why she opened a school in Africa.

    Oprah will need to do more and more of these type of sensational interviews again as Tyler Perry is flying the coup with all of his programming to create his own Network. Tyler was set to do his "OWN" network when Oprah contacted him about helping her save OWN. I think his contract is up in the next year so ole Oprah is going to need some more creative programming as most ALL of her current shows are created, produced and OWNED by Tyler Perry.

  • R Smith

    I heard she's doing the interview, but only that! She's not siding with those folks, just there to ask the tough questions??? We'll see!

  • facingrealit1

    And she is quiet about Harvey Weinstein! So are the Obamas as Harvey visited the White House over 13 times while they were in it and they let Malia intern for his #me2azz before she went off to college!

  • facingrealit1

    Oprah is a narcissist and she misses the attention and people fawning over her every word!

  • MsSapphire9800

    I will never give her rating on this topic...she had many years to ask these 2 men questions..

  • U gon learn today

    So tired of you idiots running around distorting the term “feminist” as an aggression or hate towards men because you resent the fact that you can’t control women. Feminism is not about your relationship frustrations. Feminism is a HUMAN RIGHTS issue and the movement was in response to a denial of those rights. If not for men committing such high rates of sexual/domestic abuse, denying women the right to vote, denying women the right to equal pay, trying to control a woman’s reproductive rights and trying to keep women in an oppressive position to serve men, there wouldnt be a need feminism. Also many of these so-called black Civil Rights leaders were not for moving black women ahead with the civil rights movement so don’t ever mention Bell Hooks, Alice Walker it any other black feminists who you perceive as “man-haters” without understanding who they were opposing-in other words these “Harpo” and “Mister” types of black men who sought to keep black women oppressed. Like Leroy Eldridge Cleaver for example, the Black Panther activist who serial raped black woman as his sick way of controlling them.

  • facingrealit1

    Why you think she wouldn't run for president after Trump said he'd love to run against her because he knows all her secrets!

  • facingrealit1

    You are correct - Harvey Weinstein is still alive and she hasn't said ONE WORD against him!

  • Vonn

    Lol. Heeeey Nancy!!

  • Reenaface

    Oprah's fans are scratching their heads wondering why she is involved in the media spectacle

    Because when the elites say jump, Oprah says how high. If she wants to keep eating she better summon herself before the brotherhood She is a high priestess in Hollyweird so her presence is to cause confusion she is the God of mischief.

  • facingrealit1

    Tyler Perry is leaving her network and taking his programming as his contract with her is almost up. She is desperate to keep her network afloat as most of the shows on OWN belong to Tyler.

  • facingrealit1

    Elite Black people are out to help destroy the black man! ELITE!

  • facingrealit1

    And EMBRACED JayZ!

  • BorisBlack1

    Oh really? Why did black feminist leaders decide to try to form their own group, called womanist, separate from white feminist women? ???? Why are a lot of black women who thought they were part of the feminist movement complaing about white feminist?

  • dontgetblocked

    I never believed the pedophile claims until I learned he slept with every night. It was very troubling.

  • Peace

    They want that Estate Fortune which continues to draw millions. They are putting in place the scheme and players to destroy his legacy and Sue the Estate.

    Note; none of MJ’s victims or Parents of never saw a doctor for sexual abuse or rape while he was alive, which would be compelling evidence of a crime thereby putting him in prison for decades if not life.

    These accusations had him flee the country and he was afraid for his life after being found not guilty of any wrongdoing. When he returned he met him demise. And now the end of his legacy.

    R.I.P. MIchael Jackson.

  • U gon learn today

    I don’t teally understand how y’all try to dictate who, when, where or how someone should involve themselves in any topic. As a survivor herself, Oprah Winfrey has ran the topic of child molestation and sexual abuse into the ground over her 40 year career in television. Obviously the MJ case is more compelling because of who MJ was and I am actually looking forward to Oprah’s interview because I know she will address questions that we have all been asking. As she pointed out herself, this issue is bigger than MJ and the black community needs to stop acting like we are obligated to sweep it under the rug of denial to protect the black man. Yall have no business dishing out backlash over this.

  • Peace

    Oprah is a mole for Hollywood Elite. She does what she is told. She sold her Soul a long time ago.

  • Peace

    Yup. She completely scoffed at the rules of journalism with this hit piece.

  • gail jones

    Oprah upset because she lost that 58 million with Weight Watchers.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    ?

  • gail jones

    Thank you!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And crazy Oprah right there with them. What White, Famous, Rich female Ever was there to bring there star down. Only black on black. Yet, Oprah was All hugged up and kissing Weinstein's ass. She was holding dearly on Donald Trump's before he was president, with him looking else where. Trump already said how insecure she is. Her ass Didn't respond to that!!! I can't wait till they Bill Cosby her ass!!! It's coming because they are weak and are going to use her, Because They Know she is weak. They Don't give a dam about her or Michael and they are going to show her. Isolate her from the black race and leave her out there for the kill.

  • Reenaface

    Don't forget to add Quincy Jones to your list too. Michael was passed around the industry like a blunt.... Sad, buy true...

  • U gon learn today

    Hey fool, I am not even sure why you put emphasis on the use of the term “womanist” vs. “feminist” like that has any relevance. No matter what you coin the term as, it all comes back to the basically the same ideals. Just like we used to refer to ourselves as Negroes in the 60s but now we we either use black, African American, or ADOS (American descendants of slaves) but none of those descriptives actually change our race right? You missed the entire point of my response to talk about some foolishness, precisely why males like you will continue driving a divide of resentment among black men and women. All because you take offense of women being for themselves. You don’t even want to try and understand.

  • Reenaface

    And still enjoying the residuals off of that show because the lady who played the mother raised a stink about not being able to feed her kids because their residuals were snatched when he was first reported on about his predilections for young girls. The elites promptly reinstated those residuals back. When white people protest, the mountains part for them. Meanwhile shows like the Cosby show never rebound after scandal.

  • Reenaface

    The illusion of inclusion...

  • Bashi22

    Jayz sell coke/crack to get ahead while destroying black peoples lives.

  • Bashi22

    Still she could have handle it differently. She and Jazy are friends and Bebe gospel singer that beat up his wife.

  • BorisBlack1

    I didn't make up the term womanist black feminist said they were leaving the feminist movement to form their own group. Don't hate the messenger. Black women had a higher rate of marriage than white women before they started listening to white feminist and white liberalism. The results have been a horrible for black women and black kids. While white women go home to their husbands every night.

    There's a reason the majority of white women voted against Hillary and the majority of poor, single black women voted for hillary.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    lol. personal friends. I needed that laugh.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Sad and unfortunately very true.

  • Chapter29Chick

    This is kind of funny, but not really bec the things a male child can be subjected to cultrate them can drive them absolutely crazy and with all of those kids in that house I know it was pure hell at times if not all the time. My heart goes out to kids in these situations.

  • MNjumpoffacliff

    He's never gonna be muted in my house because these people saw a moneygrab opportunity and went with it. Nothing and no one will ever change my stance on that. Let Michael rest in peace.

  • MNjumpoffacliff

    Thank you

  • samuel severino

    That is so true. He is hoping she is foolish enough to run. He will bring out her secrets faster than what he said about Ted Cruz’s father.

    Or how he roasted the F out of Hillary to her face at the dinner right before the election. He didn’t even care if people laughed or not. Hillary sitting right pretending to laugh while she is taking his body blows is priceless.

  • Anji

    Anyone with issues should've come forth while Michael was alive. I adored him in 1969. Revered him in 1982 but by 1992 I just pitied him as a confused human. DCFS in LA had undeniable evidence and a social worker on the case took an early retirement and refuses to discuss the protection money and what privileged rockstars can evade in this society. I struggle with this one as no other. Mike was damaged and RK too...as was.I but I had no perverted inclinations. Tragic human dramas play out all the time. Genius state is often lonely leading to psychic disturbance. Mike is good now.

  • Anji

    For now. She has to gain someway.

  • Savoy7

    Not interested. When Oprah interviews the accusers of her buddies Harvey Weinstein, Charlie Rose, David Geffen, Brian Singer, Matt Lauder & Woody Allen, then I will be interested.

  • Faux Gibbler

    Why the f—- else would this grown azz man have sleepovers with children and no parents?
    Yes MJ was a great entertainer but he also was a pedophile.

  • Faux Gibbler

    I think Oprah has a history with the Jacksons. She interviewed Katherine right after he died.
    Regardless, something was very wrong; a grown man having kids sleep over all the time and no parent.

  • Savoy7

    Having a history interviewing the Jackson doesn’t mean she cared about them. She’s a journalist. It’s all about the ratings.

  • Savoy7

    Michael Jackson’s makeup artist Karen Faye said ‘Everybody’ would fall asleep on MJ’s bed including herself & he didn’t care about that. Apparently he had a 2 story bedroom. She said in her 20 plus years working with him she never saw anything inappropriate.

  • Faux Gibbler

    Did you see the interview? She promised Katherine she would come by and visit with no cameras. It was on when she was doing her show behind the scenes.

  • hottlanta

    Please he was also a friend of dump. Dont just stop his friendship with black people. A lot of other girls interned as well after the accusations. R u questioning their parents.

  • ALLMINE?

    Like wtf. I know we've been in this country for hundreds of years and we deserve equality but its not gonna happen.

  • Savoy7

    Randy Jackson was upset when Oprah interviewed Mrs Jackson & her grandchildren at the Havenhurst Estate after MJ’s death. Randy said ‘Oprah’ would be the last person Michael would have wanted to to interview his kids.

  • Elevated Soul

    So basically you are saying that all White pedophiles must be tried before Black pedophiles should? A pedophile is a disgrace to the human race no matter one's ethnic group.

  • ImReallyCaitlynNotMelania

    Then you might as well say something is very wrong if the PARENTS to let the kids sleep over a grown man's home...

  • ImReallyCaitlynNotMelania

    Why the f____ would PARENTS let their kids sleep over a grown man's house??????????????

  • BorisBlack1

    Get back to me when Oprah ask those same questions and has that same energy for her rich, hollyweird, pedophile white friends.

  • Jack Blakk

    Michael Jackson was raised in one of the most vicious, cutthroat, pilfering underworld industries know to mankind ( Besides Politics and The Stock Market) and they play by different rules. Not given any excuses but he surrounded himself around Romans and he did like the Romans do!
    P.S. You'd be surprise how many of your favorite stars play with dolls!

  • JazzyBossyJen

    I’m like Katherine..*Go to BED Oprah!

  • facingrealit1

    Yes, I'm questioning their parenting! They ALL KNEW who Harvey was but for their LOVE of money they have all done all kinds of evil! My people perish for a lack of knowledge for they REJECT IT! - Hosea 4:6 - There were women who spoke on Oprah knowing yet hand-delivering them to Harvey!

  • hottlanta

    I guess everybody who voted for dump is guilty n should be held responsible for his puzzy grabbing actions. We all heard the tape n they still voted n continue 2 take up for him still 2 this day including the preachers. I dont need 2 throw in a bible verse l throw in the truth. How u gonna say obama n Oprah r responsible for weinstein n skip past the woman who gave birth 2 him n the man who planted the seed.

  • SmellyMel

    Oprah needs to interview the parents who allowed their kids to go over to his house.

  • SmellyMel

    No I think she named others who were accused and are friends of Oprah and she never interviewed them. I don’t think this is about race.

  • SmellyMel

    Maybe they have some bad history and this is her way of getting back at him.

  • SmellyMel

    Omg your pic ?

  • ImReallyCaitlynNotMelania

    Ummmm.....Just wondering why the the two people who hung around Michael the most, Macaulay Culkin and Emmauel Lewis, have never came out and accused Michael of anything!

  • rockstar2142

    Michael May have been a lot of things but a pedophile he was not.

  • rockstar2142

    Yep! Same.

  • Raquelle Dellaghetto

    Blame the parents. They're the ones that aided him in his nasty endeavours. I have a friend who growing up, was molested by her moms bf from age 10-12. She finally told her mom at age 12, and her mom didn't even break up with him/kick his as s out. He was still living with them a whole YEAR after the mom was told. So imagine the kind of ish a parent, WHO'S GETTING PAID by a famous singer, would put their kid through!

  • rockstar2142

    since we cancelling everybody can we cancel this shady witch ??.

  • rockstar2142

    Lies you tell!! There was never any evidence of anything just a bunch of money hungry people out to take advantage of a kind innocent soul.

  • rockstar2142

    Not in mind neither. Sorry not sorry!!

  • Mielle Downey

    Girl Scouts Partner with Abortion Industry, ‘Anal Sex Tutorial’ Promoter Teen Vogue-OMG!!

  • ClaireHuxtable
  • JENNYJONES1

    RATINGS CHILE. TYLER PERRY IS LEAVING HER NETWORK SO SHE NEEDS VIEWERS AND RATINGS TO KEEP THE COINS COMING ESP SINCE SHE JUST LOSE $58 MILL WITH WEIGHT WATCHERS..........JENNY JONES!!!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Judgement Day hasn't come yet. It's going to be spectacular!

  • Topic Influencer

    If she wanted to help a victim, who looked more like her, she could have helped Mo'nique. But instead she shed light on Mo's family, and their incestuous pain, on her show, and then turned her back. Continues to turn it too. And THAT was WAY before the whole recent smash up with those TWO. I don't even like Mo. But I WILL say she told us this already.

    So you are exactly right. We shouldn't have backlash over this. THAT is where it should have started. With how she did Mo. She sheisty. I'm pissed bc I was blind to it all this time. Fukk her.

  • dontgetblocked

    As I stated earlier, when I saw the male toy doll that they found in his messy bedroom when he died...I was shocked. That and the fact that he peed in his bed. He acted like a man-child. God rest his soul but something wasn't right. He lived a horrible life behind the scenes that was drug infused and might ...more than likely led to him abusing young boys. Sad! I blame Joe...nevermind. I forgot he died.

  • JENNYJONES1

    THAT'S MY ISSUE, HE'S DEAD AND NOT HERE TO DEFEND HIMSELF FROM THESE ACCUSERS, RATINGS HUNGRY OPRAH OR THIRSTY ASS QUINCY JONES.........JENNY JONES!!!

  • PrettyMeka08

    How can we believe her Weight Watchers when she’s struggled for 40 years? That’s like trusting a dentist with rotting teeth or hairdresser with no edges.

  • Shamwow

    If they claimed that he was just a fun loving guy who wanted to have fun, it’s just weird. I would be there and very difficult to get rid of shyt, if it was my child I would be like hell no. But if my child was famous and a colleague of Michaels like MCCauley Culkin and he absolutely had to have this famous friend, then I would be spending the night and awoke all night.??watching everything.

  • Judi Jupiter

    I just watched this bull... I just find this hard to swallow. The first dude's mom was star struck and loved the lifestyle. Now, Mike was a weirdo, but.....

  • interestingconcept1

    I don’t know no grown person that wants to play with children that’s not their family or children or sleep with them. Chile, now way in hell Michael would have spent time with my child like that. And all of my friends who were sexually abuse, say the same things these victims are saying.

  • interestingconcept1

    On another note who put that weave in Oprah’s head??

  • Rhyme and Reason

    Oprah is tryin to stay relevant and popular! Many of her white fans didn’t travel with her to her network, why she has so much black programming!

    Weight Watchers, her line of soups is not just for profit margins, but to keep her known, as years past, and people vaguely remember her daytime talk show or new generations are clueless to her prominence!

    There’s no way, she would have gotten behind these guys, if they were black, and Googled all their antics! Oprah loves white people, her majority white staff was cringe-worthy, and her book club selections spoke volumes about Madame!

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Exactly lot of white men giving money to man hating black lesbians to control groups that lead to the destruction of black men

  • U gon learn today

    OMG please
    Shut.thee.hell.up regurgitating this crap!

    It’s like you bustas are all reading from the same “Black Chauvinists Guide to Blaming Feminism for Everything” but stop repeating these delusions about how great life was for black women back when they were uneducated, barefoot and pregnant, and a man could rule them with an iron fist. That is your chauvinist point of view! And since you want to talk about LIBERAL, FEMINIST WHITE WOMEN WHO REFER TO THEMSELVES AS CONSERVATIVES BY WAY OF THE OLD JIM CROW TRADITIONS OF THEIR HUSBANDS; they have always had the luxury of going to home to husbands that could provide a home, attain a mortgage, keep food on the table and even build a vacation/college fund. While Black women en masse; have NEVER had that stability with black men and marriage didn’t change that. Your marry a poor black man in the south (sometimes forcibly) live in a shanty shack and eat off the land but you can’t survive that way when you move out to Detroit or Chicago and it’s an uphill battle for your husband to maintain steady good paying work. Now don’t sit here trying to preach about how liberalism doesn’t work for black women when it’s broke black maleism that hasnt worked for black women. The truth is that you trolls target and harass women online trying to force your antiquated patriarchal bs because you are sexually frustrated and have nothing better to do.

  • U gon learn today

    Bye chile cause you are still blind. Oprah isn’t the problem and Monique isn’t the solution...it’s the mob mentality of narrow minded ignoids online who possess no critical thinking skills whatsoever. I would give you more benefit of the doubt if you at least reserved your criticism until AFTER you watched the special but you are obviously spouting off at the mouth without a clue. I get it, you are emotionally attached to MJ as we all are, but not everybody is obligated to ignore the fact that molested young boys, and yeah I can say that with conviction now, there is no doubt he was a pedophile. Yet you are unjustifiably angry at Oprah for being compelled by the victims story, which is not what people think it is cause you want somebody to give a fukk about Monique...ugh what a waste of my keystrokes even typing back to this nonsense.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    Why is the hair raised 17 inches in the front from the actual head itself? I want answers..........

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    I just want to understand your hair Oprah. Talk to me.

  • Solstice
  • samuel severino

    Read my comments below.

  • samuel severino

    Oprah had a beef with Michael ever since MJ gave Martin Bashir his next interview instead of her back in the day.

  • samuel severino

    Ding

  • samuel severino

    There are plenty of pictures of Oprah hanging out and partying with them/

  • Shazzie Lindsey

    how you find out Tyler leaving?

    she still got Iyanla...

  • JNation

    Everyone was quick to throw the book at R Kelly for underage molestation yet are willing to give Michael Jackson a pass.

    The hypocrisy.

  • Overpower Radio

    It's not a pass. People believe R Kelly is guilty of what he is accused of, and don't believe MJ is guilty of what he is accused of. It's as simple as that.

  • Overpower Radio

    I'm not mad that she's doing this. I'm sad that she's doing this, because if she could watch the documentary and believe the victims, then whatever it was that made them look believable to her, it could make them look believable to me, and I don't want to believe that about Michael Jackson.

  • Chicagowise

    Dead people can't sue you.

  • Phillybruh

    We saw with our own eyes him marry a 15yr old and some people saw the tape. All we say with this is questionable behavior.

  • Chapter29Chick

    Yeah bizarre behavior. I don't even remember him having his kids play with the boys, he wanted them all to himself like a sick maniac ?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    LOL.
    She was worth billions before Weight Watchers and that WW money is pocket change.

  • Peace

    Yup. O know a lot. Which means she owe the powers that be a lot.

  • rockstar2142

    If she did her research she would know these men are liars & wouldn’t give them the time of day. Why give them a platform to spew there lies & destroy an innocent mans legacy.

  • gail jones

    It's an EGO thing! Not financial.

  • rockstar2142

    No the hell it does not. Lies you tell!!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    So you know Oprah personally?

  • gail jones

    Not doing this with u today. Have a good one?.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Of course you're just spouting BS.

  • BorisBlack1

    The REAL truth is married poor black women and her kids had much better life than these poor black baby Mama's living with a bunch of kids by different men. The black communities were also better, more stable and productive when the overwhelming majority of black mothers were married.

    You're using black feminist cheap taking points. Blame black men for the abject poverty caused by racism, segregation and Jim Crow laws. Then say the life of those MARRIED black women and her black kids with her husband and father of her kids in the home was worst to than a NON-EXISTENT UTOPIAN FAIRY TALE LIE LIFE of the overwhelming majority of today's poor black baby Mama's. While at the same time, again blaming all the very real problems of all these single poor black baby Mama's on black men and none of the failures on liberalism and feminism! "I don't need a man" and "wait, have fun before looking for a husband had been a complete failure." All of these poor black baby Mama's and Child Protective Services overrun with abandoned, abused and neglected black kids proves it.

    Why Boyce Watkins is WRONG about Black women

    https://youtu.be/C7Lz3ZJLBfM?t=1

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    TV ratings. Oprah should go ahead and retire and enjoy her money.

  • Coy little wink

    Her opinion...my opinion. MJ had his demons...

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  • Anji

    Has nothing to do with people. I love MJ but my blinders came off with DCFS files. # children1st

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  • Indies beauty

    I dont care. I dont believe them. Plus he's not even here to give his side. Thats just how I feel.

  • SunRiseBlossom

    SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • SunRiseBlossom

    Perfect GIF... LMBO!!!!

  • Miss Thang

    Lol

  • Miss Thang

    Lmao

  • Miss Thang

    Whoever they are, they wrong as hell.

  • Miss Thang

    I love playing with children. I volunteer at Kids in Crisis and before that, I was a Guardian ad Litem. I love kids. I plan on adopting someday.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    I am not outraged.

  • rockstar2142

    Like I said they never found nothing on Mj. Nothing at all. #MJFirst

  • rockstar2142

    Truth ?

  • Tlowe89

    Yea she uprooted her child from Australia to live in LA to be apart of the MJ lifestyle and got there and found out he don’t wont them no mo....

  • Trace da Ace

    Why try this shit when the man has been dead 10 years????? Why not come out and do all of this when he was alive???? I dont believe them....just dont....I mean you are trying to bash a man whom cannot defend himself....BECAUSE HE IS DEAD.....FOH.....moving on-->

  • rockstar2142

    We’re angry at her that she would give these two a platform to spew there lies. I know Michael had his flaws but a pedo he wasn’t. It’s sad that gullible folks like you fell for it.

  • rockstar2142

    Preach??

  • Judi Jupiter

    Yep... her exact words were we've been dumped...smh

  • ImReallyCaitlynNotMelania

    Nope! I don't care how fun loving the guy might be, as a parent, my child is not spending the night over no grown man's house, especially if that person doesn't have kids of his own living there. Doesn't matter the status of the person. And speaking of Macaulay, I find it very strange, the person who has spent the most time with Michael as not accused him of anything, especially with his opportunist parents.

  • Elevated Soul

    You named 3 Black women from the last century as if those women represent all Black women.You went on to talk about your claim as it pertain to their personal lives as if that is even relevant to anyone except Black males with your mindset. Again I have never KNOWN any Black woman who calls herself a feminist.

    For me this isn't about the White man. This is about a wierd dude who moved like a pedophile being called out for his crimes against the spirit of his victims.I refuse to allow anyone to cause me to be distracted by things that don't have a thing to do with this case.

  • Solstice

    ???

  • facingrealit1

    English please...I'm an American!

  • hottlanta

    Please u trying 2 cop out. U got a verse for that as well. U know exactly what l mean.

  • parisjok

    yes

  • Overpower Radio

    Nah, watch the documentary. It was deep enough for her to do what she's doing without being motivated by fame or money. I wasn't even going to watch it until she got involved. Because she did, I know it was unfair of me to judge these guys and discredit their story before even hearing it. I watched both parts earlier today. It brought tears to my eyes.

  • Patricia

    we saw with our own eyes michael having little boys over for sleepovers even after he had his own damned kids, too! thats how i know he was guilty.

  • Patricia

    exactly. guilty! what does he need other folks kids over for when he had his own? he didnt want no kids, he wanted boy booty

  • thighcandy

    Oprah should have stayed out of this.

  • Patricia

    he, too, adopted some himself and STILL had little stranger boys over for private slumber parties, even after he got in major trouble the 1st time with what he said were people taking advantage of him for $$$.

    this is NOT the same thing as enjoying children. things were not right. im sure they were no more right than the producer men his daddy joe sent him off with for dinners and weekends pitching music deals...

  • Patricia

    i believe mike was a victim himself. most childhood stars are taken advantage of. i can see joe sending him off on business mettings to impress and strike up deals with those pedophile vultures in the indu$try.

  • Patricia

    i heard a story of emmanuel lewis' mama retrieving him from some hotel with michael jackson.

  • Patricia

    SOMEBODY got to him at some point. they stay raping all the child stars. i wish HE had spoken out about his own sexual abuse and saught psychological help and therapy.

  • Phillybruh

    Is there video of these sleepovers? Did he marry one of these boys?

  • Phillybruh

    That's odd his son and his nephews have said several times they were included.

  • Miss Thang

    Michael has his nieces, nephews, little cousins, and all their friends over there. People act like it was just these actors like Macaulay Culkin. There were many kids from his family there all the time. Neverland is huge. He always had many guests there, family and friends, adults and children.

  • Patricia

    go look at the documentaries again. im talking about the ones from the 90s. he had boys in his bed, ALONE in his bed. private slumber parties. this was not a family affair.

  • Patricia

    go see his previous interviews. he sat right there and admitted to sleeping with these boys alone in his bed both before the 1st scandal and following that one after he even had adopted his kids.
    he says the kindest thing you can do is share your bed with somebody and give them warm milk and cookies lol

  • Shamwow
  • Shamwow
  • http://dateme-meetup.site/v0PNh6iXfyCds Adam Fenix

    I think about you when I lay down to bed

  • EMILY POST

    Oprah is now fighting a Dead Person???? ???????
    Is that what Democratic Winning Looks like... Seems like Hollywood is trying to distract us by attacking R Kelly and Bringing up Wacko Jacko white kid fetish we all seen in plain site.

  • Latisaj

    Oprah interviews the Michael Jackson "victims". Gayle interviews R Kelly. Something ain't right here!!

  • interestingconcept1

    I am a foster mother, I love kids, and spend time with them with volunteering also, but none are sleeping with me nor am I trying to get close to kids nor trying to spend time with the at night for sleep overs and away from their parents. You know exactly what I meant.

  • interestingconcept1

    Exactly.

  • Miss Thang

    I’m a lifelong fan. I’ve seen almost anything pertaining to Michael. Absolutely they were family affairs. Whole families were there, including his. Not just kids.

  • Mikayla

    Nah, I’m not buying it. You’re not “First Them” you’re “Only Them.” Truth is it should be “equally them.” Find the money somewhere and do your own expose on whites to try to get karma off these longtime black predators. Good luck

  • Mikayla

    Same reason a lot of black women thought they were a part of the black movement are no divesting. You don’t know what you’re talking about either, because the big-name black women you named started black feminism decades and decades ago. They always knew they were not on equal footing with white women in that movement. And it’s called “black feminism” — Has been for decades.

  • Mikayla

    We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

  • Mikayla

    Why do people always use him? Nobody gives a damn about him. You don’t even know his name. Neither do I. FYI, his victims decided to “forgive” and not press charges

  • Mikayla

    The days of black women covering for bad black men, marching for no good black men, letting black girls get no justice for being victims of black men....

    Is OVER. It will continue to be a harsh adjustment period for you

  • Navybeans95

    It's not about being able to multitask....he's paid the ultimate price which is death....he can't be punished anymore...only the people around him can...however ...there are many LIVING predators walking around right now currently assaulting people ...

  • hottlanta

    His actions r more important than his name. Victims can forgive all day but the courts still should do their job n charge him. Where is your outrage about that instead of your outrage against me for calling him out. Wow no outrage for a child molestor l have seen it all.

  • Mikayla

    The statute of limitations is passed and no, it isn’t the courts’ job. In fact they can’t charge him. Cosby’s victims some pressed charges, some didn’t.

    You are disgusting. Wanting moIesters to walk free just because they’re black.

  • Mikayla

    His death isn’t payment for crimes against children. He died. We’re all going to die. Talking about his obsession with lil white boys is not about punishment, it’s about getting to the truth. You don’t want it to come out but others do.

  • Navybeans95

    OK. ..true...Looking at it from that perspective...just seems opportunistic to me...if the stories are true the parents of these little boys need to be held accountable ...but MJ is dead...he can't defend himself or admit to it...

  • BorisBlack1

    This is not about R Kelly. Very dangerous time for the entire black community
    22 min video
    https://youtu.be/up1yM6RQbaM?t=42s

  • BorisBlack1

    I was going to list all the black men accused of sexual misconduct to give some clarity for this bait and switch demonization and modern day lynching but I don't have time.

    This is not about R Kelly. Very dangerous time for the entire black community
    22 min video
    https://youtu.be/up1yM6RQbaM?t=42s

  • BorisBlack1

    This is not about R Kelly..... Very dangerous time for not just black men but also for black women and the entire black community.
    22 min video
    https://youtu.be/up1yM6RQbaM?t=42s

  • Mikayla

    There is no black community. You mean black men. I as a black woman am glad that black male predators are being exposed/muted/shut down. It’s about time society values black women and girls. I’m not holding my breath for “the black community” to do so. It’s a celebration time for the black female community.

  • BorisBlack1

    I'm curious. If you don't mind me asking.
    Why exactly do you hate heterosexual black men?
    Did you grow up in a 2 parent home?
    Are you a lesbian?

  • Mikayla

    I “hate” RAPIST men. I can’t stand loser, irresponsible, no-accountability men, as well as the coddling of “Baby Boys,” BECAUSE I grew up in a two-parent home and was raised to properly identify real men. Hint: not you. Neither heterosexual black men in particular or lesbianism is relevant. Jussie Smollet is a gay, no accountability half black man getting the same coddling.

    Your turn. Did YOU grow up in A two parent home? Or did your mother let you have your own way, no responsibility, to try to make up for your missing daddy? She couldn’t teach you to stand up and use your backbone, could she?

  • Mikayla

    You just proved my point about the black “community’s” agenda and showed how sick pro-black (male) fools like you are. I just reread our conversation. To you, caring about black girls and wanting black rapists caught = lesbianism.

    And now that I’m reminded the topic of this thread, what the hell does Michael Jackson have to do with heterosexual black men and traditional families????

  • BorisBlack1

    Yes, I grew up in a 2 parent home. Do you love your father? Was he a responsible black man. Are you married? Do you have kids?

  • BorisBlack1

    No need for us to be disrespectful, sister. I apologize if I offended you. Just curious of how you can hate all black men. The video is about ALL BLACK MEN BEING DEMONIZED and how that is going to affect black women and the black community. Please take a moment to view

  • Mikayla

    I didn’t view your video, I am not viewing it, and I am not talking about all black men. I am talking about black rapists. And child molesters. They don’t deserve any protection, and I’m glad they are not getting any.

  • Mikayla

    Do you love your mother? Do you have sisters or daughters? Would you want a BLACK man who did what R. Kelly did to those young women and girls to get away with thatif he raped or pissed on your mother or your sister or your daughter?

    If my father or brother or son raped girls or boys, I’d be DONE WITH THEM and would help put them away for as long as possible.

  • Patricia

    no. HE admitted with his own mouth they are alone in his bed and theres nothing wrong or sexual about it is what he said. the european interviewer asked after all hes gone through, is that a smart move. he raised his voice over the interviewer. he kept saying theres nothing wrong with having boys over for a sleepover in his bed, tucking them in with the fireplace going, having hot milk and cookies.
    this was AFTER the 1st scandal, AFTER he had adopted his own kids.
    now you want to sit here and deny this bc you know it implicates him as a pedophile.

  • BorisBlack1

    Ok, fair enough of you don't want to view, however, a very large part is about THE TREATMENT OF BLACK WOMEN.

    This isn't about your average black or white Joe. Most of them are punished if charged. ThIs is about high profile black and white celebrities. I want ALL high profile rapist and Child molesters jailed. Not just the black celebrities. Are you ok with the overwhelming majority of white executives and celebrity rapist and Child molesters not being punished? A large amount of them are also raping black women and black kids.

  • BorisBlack1

    Yes, I loved my deceased Mother. I want ALL sexual predators punished.

    The issue is about high profile black and white celebrities. I want ALL high profile rapist and Child molesters jailed. Not just the black celebrities. Are you ok with the overwhelming majority of white executives and celebrity rapist and Child molesters not being punished? A large amount of them are also raping black women and black kids. See Vincent Cirrincione

  • Mikayla

    I wrote in my first reply to you “it should be ‘equally them.’”

    You did well to see ahead to my next point, that I care much more about the black victims of these black predators. But then you lied to yourself. I’ve never heard of Vincent and am not looking him up. Predators usually target within their own race. This next part is really embarrassing: black rapists include targets outside the race most often. That’s based on statistics, not emotions.

  • Mikayla

    No buddy, you even tried to make a hashtag. “FIRST them.” I suspected and still do that you, like many in the black “community,” don’t like a Spotlight on da black man. Even when he’s a damn criminal, he’s supposed to be protected, like a delicate lil flower, from da racisms. And if anybody reminds you that black women or girls exist, and matter,and also issues we need to pay attention to, it’s “lesbian!!!!” Maybe they are lesbian, so what? Maybe since they aren’t looking to “get chose” by you losers, they feel free to SPEAK.

  • BorisBlack1

    I combined my response to both of your replies

    #FirstThem or #EquallyThem. I'm ok with either. I didn't make up the hashtag. "shrugs" Black men ARE NOT raping white women. That white supremist lie was proven incorrect years ago. I would post links but since you refuse to view, why bother. Also, I'm not a "loser". I own a business with employees.

    I want ALL high profile rapist and Child molesters jailed. Not just the black celebrities. Again, I will ask one more time. Are you ok with the overwhelming majority of white executives and celebrity rapist and Child molesters not being punished? A large amount of them are also raping black women and black kids.

    No charges. No punishment.....
    Vincent Cirrincione
    Nine women told The Washington Post in a story published Friday that the veteran manager had propositioned them for sex in exchange for representing them. Cirrincione allegedly often boasted of his success in building the careers of ACTRESSES OF COLOR, such as Halle Berry and Taraji P. Henson, in attempting to coerce the women to perform sexual favors on him. Tamika Lamison, one of three women who spoke on the record, said that Cirrincione forcibly kissed her and said he would sign her if he could have sex with her whenever he wanted. A fourth, according to the Post, said Cirrincione offered to advance her career for monthly sex. Another said he masturbated in front of her during meetings in his office, and a third said that he exposed her breasts as well as his own penis, and forced her head into his lap.......

    Saisha Beecham, a professional makeup artist, she namedrops Vincent Cirrincione in an interesting way, particularly in light of recent events. She stated that a passerby mentioned that she and her female friends looked like they “must be going to see Vincent Cirrincione” because “all the beautiful women go to see him”. ....

    White men are FINANCING organizations and movements headed by HETEROSEXUAL BLACK MAN (AND TRADITION BLACK FAMILY) HATING BLACK FEMINIST AKA BLACK LESBIANS to go after black men to take the heat off of them! There are 100x more white male entertainers and executives for every one black entertainer and black executive. There should at least be 10x more white men being boycotted, blackballed, fired, charged and jailed. You'd have to be really naive to think that these white men in power, AREN'T DOING AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE, the exact same thing for which black men are being boycotted, blackballed, fired, charged and jailed.

  • Mikayla

    You’re reaching. Vincent crimes can’t hold a candle to Cosby. And sorry, black men are the main rapists that go outside the race to rape.

  • BorisBlack1

    The use of black rape statistics is a common white racist argument. It seeks to prove that black men have a dark and savage nature by showing that they rape women at vastly higher rates than white men. The beauty of the argument is that few whites question it because it plays on two stereotypes they have about black men: they are violent and they have stronger sex drives that they cannot control.

    First, as black crime goes rape is rare. Here are the top ten crimes committed by blacks in America according to FBI numbers on arrests made in 2007:

    485,054 Drug abuse violations
    261,730 Larceny, theft
    316,217 Assault (non-aggravated)
    183,810 Disorderly conduct
    109,985 Aggravated assault
    97,472 Driving under the influence
    68,052 Burglary
    62,278 Drunkenness
    57,745 Weapons; carrying, possessing, etc.
    54,774 Robbery
    Forcible rape was not even close to making this list: there were only 5,708 arrests.

    Second, white men are a far bigger threat. Despite the racism of the police and the stereotypes about black rapists, the police still arrest twice as many white men for rape.

    Going by the stereotypes, you would expect whiter countries to be safer. Wrong. Despite the millions of black men in America, women are way safer there than in Canada and Australia, where rape is more than twice as common.

    So where are the statistics that show black men are such dangerous rapists? It comes from comparing not all rapes but just interracial rapes. Comments like this often appear on this blog:

    Fact – blacks rape white women 2000 (yes 2000) times more than whites rape black women. In New York City, about 300 white women are raped by blacks every year BUT there has not been a black woman raped by a white male in anybody’s memory (going back over 20 yrs.) Consider: Al Sharpton had to go upstate New York to find a hoax and that was almost 20 years ago. (Source NYT 4/22/05)

    That looks solid: the New York Times said so! Except that it did not: there is no such article.

    The FBI does not break out numbers for interracial rape but the Justice Department does for “rape and sexual assault” – based on a crime victim survey it does every year. But interracial rape is so rare that there are fewer than ten cases in its sample. So you cannot draw any firm statistical conclusions.

    On television rape is a dark-alley crime, but in fact strangers commit only 2% of rapes. Half are done by current or former boyfriends, dates and husbands. Interracial rape is rare for the same reasons that interracial marriage is rare. So rare that there are not even solid government figures on it.

    But better numbers would not help: after all, if you applied the same reasoning to numbers on marriage it would “prove” that black men are by nature also more likely to marry.

    The argument is built not on sound reasoning and solid facts but on white fears that go back at least to Jim Crow times.

  • BorisBlack1

    'Mum, I'm pregnant'
    Instead, when I called her one morning in the spring of 2004, while I was at one of her homes house sitting, and told her my news and that I'd never been happier, she went very quiet. All she could say was that she was shocked. Then she asked if I could check on her garden. I put the phone down and sobbed - she had deliberately withheld her approval with the intention of hurting me. What loving mother would do that? Worse was to follow. My mother took umbrage at an interview in which I'd mentioned that my parents didn't protect or look out for me. She sent me an e-mail, threatening to undermine my reputation as a writer. I couldn't believe she could be so hurtful - particularly when I was pregnant. Devastated, I asked her to apologise and acknowledge how much she'd hurt me over the years with neglect, withholding affection and resenting me for things I had no control over - the fact that I am mixed-race, that I have a wealthy, white, professional father and that I was born at all. But she wouldn't back down. Instead, she wrote me a letter saying that our relationship had been inconsequential for years and that she was no longer interested in being my mother. She even signed the letter with her first name, rather than 'Mom'. That was a month before Tenzin's birth in December 2004, and I have had no contact with my mother since. She didn't even get in touch when he was rushed into the special care baby unit after he was born suffering breathing difficulties. And I have since heard that my mother has cut me out of her will in favour of one of my cousins. I feel terribly sad - my mother is missing such a great opportunity to be close to her family. But I'm also relieved. Unlike most mothers, mine has never taken any pride in my achievements. She has always had a strange competitiveness that led her to undermine me at almost every turn. When I got into Yale - a huge achievement - she asked why on earth I wanted to be educated at such a male bastion. Whenever I published anything, she wanted to write her version - trying to eclipse mine. When I wrote my memoir, Black, White And Jewish, my mother insisted on publishing her version. She finds it impossible to step out of the limelight, which is extremely ironic in light of her view that all women are sisters and should support one another. It's been almost four years since I have had any contact with my mother, but it's for the best - not only for my self-protection but for my son's well-being. I've done all I can to be a loyal, loving daughter, but I can no longer have this poisonous relationship destroy my life. I know many women are shocked by my views. They expect the daughter of Alice Walker to deliver a very different message. Yes, feminism has undoubtedly given women opportunities. It's helped open the doors for us at schools, universities and in the workplace. But what about the problems it's caused for my contemporaries?

    What about the children?
    The ease with which people can get divorced these days doesn't take into account the toll on children. That's all part of the unfinished business of feminism. Then there is the issue of not having children. Even now, I meet women in their 30s who are ambivalent about having a family. They say things like: 'I'd like a child. If it happens, it happens.' I tell them: 'Go home and get on with it because your window of opportunity is very small.' As I know only too well. Then I meet women in their 40s who are devastated because they spent two decades working on a PhD or becoming a partner in a law firm, and they missed out on having a family. Thanks to the feminist movement, they discounted their biological clocks. They've missed the opportunity and they're bereft. Feminism has betrayed an entire generation of women into childlessness. It is devastating. But far from taking responsibility for any of this, the leaders of the women's movement close ranks against anyone who dares to question them - as I have learned to my cost.

    I don't want to hurt my mother, but I cannot stay silent. I believe feminism is an experiment, and all experiments need to be assessed on their results. Then, when you see huge mistakes have been paid, you need to make alterations. I hope that my mother and I will be reconciled one day. Tenzin deserves to have a grandmother. But I am just so relieved that my viewpoint is no longer so utterly coloured by my mother's. I am my own woman and I have discovered what really matters - a happy family.

  • BorisBlack1

    Part1
    Black Feminist fairytales are for the most part half truths, over exaggerations and outright lies. They take credit for any little progress of black women and blame black men for all of black feminist ideologies many failures. The early Black Feminist Leaders had a few things in common. Most were self absorb, selfish hated black men and the black family.

    The famous black feminist, Alice Walker, failed relationship with her white ex husband and multiple other white men and then white women really screwed her up emotionally, psychologically and socially. Culminating in Alice in her late 50's and early 60's having a relationship and sex with, the same woman, her daughter, Rebecca had also dated. Most of Alice professional life she degraded and disparaged her black father. A man who never abandoned his family in spite of the hardship caused by racism and living in the deep south in the 1940's & 50's. Alice said her father was brilliant but limited because of racism in his choice of professions and ended up running a family farm. He didn't make much because of unfair treatment by the whites that he had to do business with. Only later in life, has Alice finally admitted that her father was a good man and did the best he could considering circumstances he was trapped in.

    She's revered as a trail-blazing feminist and author Alice Walker touched the lives of a generation of women. A champion of women's rights, she has always argued that motherhood is a form of servitude. But one woman didn't buy in to Alice's beliefs - her daughter, Rebecca, 38. The writer describes what it was like to grow up as the daughter of a cultural icon, and why she feels so blessed to be the sort of woman 64-year-old Alice despises - a mother. She says the truth is that I very nearly missed out on becoming a mother - thanks to being brought up by a rabid feminist who thought motherhood was about the worst thing that could happen to a woman. You see, my mum taught me that children enslave women. I grew up believing that children are millstones around your neck, and the idea that motherhood can make you blissfully happy is a complete fairytale. I was raised to believe that women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. But I strongly feel children need two parents and the thought of raising Tenzin without my partner, Glen, 52, would be terrifying.

    As the child of divorced parents, I know only too well the painful consequences of being brought up in those circumstances. Feminism has much to answer for denigrating men and encouraging women to seek independence whatever the cost to their families. My mother's feminist principles coloured every aspect of my life. As a little girl, I wasn't even allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they brought out a maternal instinct. It was drummed into me that being a mother, raising children and running a home were a form of slavery. Having a career, travelling the world and being independent were what really mattered according to her. I love my mother very much, but I haven't seen her or spoken to her since I became pregnant. She has never seen my son - her only grandchild. My crime? Daring to question her ideology. Well, so be it. My mother may be revered by women around the world - goodness knows, many even have shrines to her. But I honestly believe it's time to puncture the myth and to reveal what life was really like to grow up as a child of the feminist revolution.

    My parents met and fell in love in Mississippi during the civil rights movement. Dad [Mel Leventhal], was the brilliant lawyer son of a Jewish family who had fled the Holocaust. Mum was the impoverished eighth child of sharecroppers from Georgia. When they married in 1967, inter-racial weddings were still illegal in some states. My early childhood was very happy although my parents were terribly busy, encouraging me to grow up fast. I was only one when I was sent off to nursery school. I'm told they even made me walk down the street to the school.

    Alice Walker believed so strongly that children enslaved their mothers she disowned her own daughter
    When I was eight, my parents divorced. From then on I was shuttled between two worlds - my father's very conservative, traditional, wealthy, white suburban community in New York, and my mother's avant garde multi-racial community in California. I spent two years with each parent - a bizarre way of doing things. Ironically, my mother regards herself as a hugely maternal woman. Believing that women are suppressed, she has campaigned for their rights around the world and set up organisations to aid women abandoned in Africa - offering herself up as a mother figure. But, while she has taken care of daughters all over the world and is hugely revered for her public work and service, my childhood tells a very different story. I came very low down in her priorities - after work, political integrity, self-fulfilment, friendships, spiritual life, fame and travel. My mother would always do what she wanted - for example taking off to Greece for two months in the summer, leaving me with relatives when I was a teenager. Is that independent, or just plain selfish? I was 16 when I found a now-famous poem she wrote comparing me to various calamities that struck and impeded the lives of other women writers. Virginia Woolf was mentally ill and the Brontes died prematurely. My mother had me - a 'delightful distraction', but a calamity nevertheless. I found that a huge shock and very upsetting. According to the strident feminist ideology of the Seventies, women were sisters first, and my mother chose to see me as a sister rather than a daughter. From the age of 13, I spent days at a time alone while my mother retreated to her writing studio - some 100 miles away. I was left with money to buy my own meals and lived on a diet of fast food.

    Sisters together
    A neighbour, not much older than me, was deputised to look after me. I never complained. I saw it as my job to protect my mother and never distract her from her writing. It never crossed my mind to say that I needed some time and attention from her. When I was beaten up at school - accused of being a snob because I had lighter skin than my black classmates - I always told my mother that everything was fine, that I had won the fight. I didn't want to worry her. But the truth was I was very lonely and, with my mother's knowledge, started having sex at 13. I guess it was a relief for my mother as it meant I was less demanding. And she felt that being sexually active was empowering for me because it meant I was in control of my body. Now I simply cannot understand how she could have been so permissive. I barely want my son to leave the house on a play-date, let alone start sleeping around while barely out of junior school. A good mother is attentive, sets boundaries and makes the world safe for her child. But my mother did none of those things. Although I was on the Pill - something I had arranged at 13, visiting the doctor with my best friend - I fell pregnant at 14. I organised an abortion myself. Now I shudder at the memory. I was only a little girl. I don't remember my mother being shocked or upset. She tried to be supportive, accompanying me with her boyfriend. Although I believe that an abortion was the right decision for me then, the aftermath haunted me for decades. It ate away at my self-confidence and, until I had Tenzin, I was terrified that I'd never be able to have a baby because of what I had done to the child I had destroyed. For feminists to say that abortion carries no consequences is simply wrong.

    As a child, I was terribly confused, because while I was being fed a strong feminist message, I actually yearned for a traditional mother. My father's second wife, Judy, was a loving, maternal homemaker with five children she doted on. There was always food in the fridge and she did all the things my mother didn't, such as attending their school events, taking endless photos and telling her children at every opportunity how wonderful they were. My mother was the polar opposite. She never came to a single school event, she didn't buy me any clothes, she didn't even help me buy my first bra - a friend was paid to go shopping with me. If I needed help with homework I asked my boyfriend's mother. Moving between the two homes was terrible. At my father's home I felt much more taken care of. But, if I told my mother that I'd had a good time with Judy, she'd look bereft - making me feel I was choosing this white, privileged woman above her. I was made to feel that I had to choose one set of ideals above the other.

    When I hit my 20s and first felt a longing to be a mother, I was totally confused. I could feel my biological clock ticking, but I felt if I listened to it, I would be betraying my mother and all she had taught me. I tried to push it to the back of my mind, but over the next ten years the longing became more intense, and when I met Glen, a teacher, at a seminar five years ago, I knew I had found the man I wanted to have a baby with. Gentle, kind and hugely supportive, he is, as I knew he would be, the most wonderful father. Although I knew what my mother felt about babies, I still hoped that when I told her I was pregnant, she would be excited for me.

  • BorisBlack1

    Part2
    Sisters together
    A neighbour, not much older than me, was deputised to look after me. I never complained. I saw it as my job to protect my mother and never distract her from her writing. It never crossed my mind to say that I needed some time and attention from her. When I was beaten up at school - accused of being a snob because I had lighter skin than my black classmates - I always told my mother that everything was fine, that I had won the fight. I didn't want to worry her. But the truth was I was very lonely and, with my mother's knowledge, started having sex at 13. I guess it was a relief for my mother as it meant I was less demanding. And she felt that being sexually active was empowering for me because it meant I was in control of my body. Now I simply cannot understand how she could have been so permissive. I barely want my son to leave the house on a play-date, let alone start sleeping around while barely out of junior school. A good mother is attentive, sets boundaries and makes the world safe for her child. But my mother did none of those things. Although I was on the Pill - something I had arranged at 13, visiting the doctor with my best friend - I fell pregnant at 14. I organised an abortion myself. Now I shudder at the memory. I was only a little girl. I don't remember my mother being shocked or upset. She tried to be supportive, accompanying me with her boyfriend. Although I believe that an abortion was the right decision for me then, the aftermath haunted me for decades. It ate away at my self-confidence and, until I had Tenzin, I was terrified that I'd never be able to have a baby because of what I had done to the child I had destroyed. For feminists to say that abortion carries no consequences is simply wrong.

    As a child, I was terribly confused, because while I was being fed a strong feminist message, I actually yearned for a traditional mother. My father's second wife, Judy, was a loving, maternal homemaker with five children she doted on. There was always food in the fridge and she did all the things my mother didn't, such as attending their school events, taking endless photos and telling her children at every opportunity how wonderful they were. My mother was the polar opposite. She never came to a single school event, she didn't buy me any clothes, she didn't even help me buy my first bra - a friend was paid to go shopping with me. If I needed help with homework I asked my boyfriend's mother. Moving between the two homes was terrible. At my father's home I felt much more taken care of. But, if I told my mother that I'd had a good time with Judy, she'd look bereft - making me feel I was choosing this white, privileged woman above her. I was made to feel that I had to choose one set of ideals above the other.

    When I hit my 20s and first felt a longing to be a mother, I was totally confused. I could feel my biological clock ticking, but I felt if I listened to it, I would be betraying my mother and all she had taught me. I tried to push it to the back of my mind, but over the next ten years the longing became more intense, and when I met Glen, a teacher, at a seminar five years ago, I knew I had found the man I wanted to have a baby with. Gentle, kind and hugely supportive, he is, as I knew he would be, the most wonderful father. Although I knew what my mother felt about babies, I still hoped that when I told her I was pregnant, she would be excited for me.

  • BorisBlack1

    Part1
    Black Feminist fairytales are for the most part half truths, over exaggerations and outright lies. They take credit for any little progress of black women and blame black men for all of black feminist ideologies many failures. The early Black Feminist Leaders had a few things in common. Most were self absorb, selfish hated black men and the black family.

    The famous black feminist, Alice Walker, failed relationship with her white ex husband and multiple other white men and then white women really screwed her up emotionally, psychologically and socially. Culminating in Alice in her late 50's and early 60's having a relationship and sex with, the same woman, her daughter, Rebecca had also dated. Most of Alice professional life she degraded and disparaged her black father. A man who never abandoned his family in spite of the hardship caused by racism and living in the deep south in the 1940's & 50's. Alice said her father was brilliant but limited because of racism in his choice of professions and ended up running a family farm. He didn't make much because of unfair treatment by the whites that he had to do business with. Only later in life, has Alice finally admitted that her father was a good man and did the best he could considering circumstances he was trapped in.

    She's revered as a trail-blazing feminist and author Alice Walker touched the lives of a generation of women. A champion of women's rights, she has always argued that motherhood is a form of servitude. But one woman didn't buy in to Alice's beliefs - her daughter, Rebecca, 38. The writer describes what it was like to grow up as the daughter of a cultural icon, and why she feels so blessed to be the sort of woman 64-year-old Alice despises - a mother. She says the truth is that I very nearly missed out on becoming a mother - thanks to being brought up by a rabid feminist who thought motherhood was about the worst thing that could happen to a woman. You see, my mum taught me that children enslave women. I grew up believing that children are millstones around your neck, and the idea that motherhood can make you blissfully happy is a complete fairytale. I was raised to believe that women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. But I strongly feel children need two parents and the thought of raising Tenzin without my partner, Glen, 52, would be terrifying.

    As the child of divorced parents, I know only too well the painful consequences of being brought up in those circumstances. Feminism has much to answer for denigrating men and encouraging women to seek independence whatever the cost to their families. My mother's feminist principles coloured every aspect of my life. As a little girl, I wasn't even allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they brought out a maternal instinct. It was drummed into me that being a mother, raising children and running a home were a form of slavery. Having a career, travelling the world and being independent were what really mattered according to her. I love my mother very much, but I haven't seen her or spoken to her since I became pregnant. She has never seen my son - her only grandchild. My crime? Daring to question her ideology. Well, so be it. My mother may be revered by women around the world - goodness knows, many even have shrines to her. But I honestly believe it's time to puncture the myth and to reveal what life was really like to grow up as a child of the feminist revolution.

    My parents met and fell in love in Mississippi during the civil rights movement. Dad [Mel Leventhal], was the brilliant lawyer son of a Jewish family who had fled the Holocaust. Mum was the impoverished eighth child of sharecroppers from Georgia. When they married in 1967, inter-racial weddings were still illegal in some states. My early childhood was very happy although my parents were terribly busy, encouraging me to grow up fast. I was only one when I was sent off to nursery school. I'm told they even made me walk down the street to the school.

    Alice Walker believed so strongly that children enslaved their mothers she disowned her own daughter
    When I was eight, my parents divorced. From then on I was shuttled between two worlds - my father's very conservative, traditional, wealthy, white suburban community in New York, and my mother's avant garde multi-racial community in California. I spent two years with each parent - a bizarre way of doing things. Ironically, my mother regards herself as a hugely maternal woman. Believing that women are suppressed, she has campaigned for their rights around the world and set up organisations to aid women abandoned in Africa - offering herself up as a mother figure. But, while she has taken care of daughters all over the world and is hugely revered for her public work and service, my childhood tells a very different story. I came very low down in her priorities - after work, political integrity, self-fulfilment, friendships, spiritual life, fame and travel. My mother would always do what she wanted - for example taking off to Greece for two months in the summer, leaving me with relatives when I was a teenager. Is that independent, or just plain selfish? I was 16 when I found a now-famous poem she wrote comparing me to various calamities that struck and impeded the lives of other women writers. Virginia Woolf was mentally ill and the Brontes died prematurely. My mother had me - a 'delightful distraction', but a calamity nevertheless. I found that a huge shock and very upsetting. According to the strident feminist ideology of the Seventies, women were sisters first, and my mother chose to see me as a sister rather than a daughter. From the age of 13, I spent days at a time alone while my mother retreated to her writing studio - some 100 miles away. I was left with money to buy my own meals and lived on a diet of fast food.

  • BorisBlack1

    Part2
    Second, white men are a far bigger threat. Despite the racism of the police and the stereotypes about black rapists, the police still arrest twice as many white men for rape.

    Going by the stereotypes, you would expect whiter countries to be safer. Wrong. Despite the millions of black men in America, women are way safer there than in Canada and Australia, where rape is more than twice as common.

    So where are the statistics that show black men are such dangerous rapists? It comes from comparing not all rapes but just interracial rapes. Comments like this often appear on this blog:

    Fact – blacks rape white women 2000 (yes 2000) times more than whites rape black women. In New York City, about 300 white women are raped by blacks every year BUT there has not been a black woman raped by a white male in anybody’s memory (going back over 20 yrs.) Consider: Al Sharpton had to go upstate New York to find a hoax and that was almost 20 years ago. (Source NYT 4/22/05)

    That looks solid: the New York Times said so! Except that it did not: there is no such article.

    The FBI does not break out numbers for interracial rape but the Justice Department does for “rape and sexual assault” – based on a crime victim survey it does every year. But interracial rape is so rare that there are fewer than ten cases in its sample. So you cannot draw any firm statistical conclusions.

    On television rape is a dark-alley crime, but in fact strangers commit only 2% of rapes. Half are done by current or former boyfriends, dates and husbands. Interracial rape is rare for the same reasons that interracial marriage is rare. So rare that there are not even solid government figures on it.

    But better numbers would not help: after all, if you applied the same reasoning to numbers on marriage it would “prove” that black men are by nature also more likely to marry.

    The argument is built not on sound reasoning and solid facts but on white fears that go back at least to Jim Crow times.

  • BorisBlack1

    Part1
    The use of black rape statistics is a common white racist argument. It seeks to prove that black men have a dark and savage nature by showing that they rape women at vastly higher rates than white men. The beauty of the argument is that few whites question it because it plays on two stereotypes they have about black men: they are violent and they have stronger sex drives that they cannot control.

    First, as black crime goes rape is rare. Here are the top ten crimes committed by blacks in America according to FBI numbers on arrests made in 2007:

    485,054 Drug abuse violations
    261,730 Larceny, theft
    316,217 Assault (non-aggravated)
    183,810 Disorderly conduct
    109,985 Aggravated assault
    97,472 Driving under the influence
    68,052 Burglary
    62,278 Drunkenness
    57,745 Weapons; carrying, possessing, etc.
    54,774 Robbery
    Forcible rape was not even close to making this list: there were only 5,708 arrests.

  • Mikayla

    I know that black women underreport so that your statistics look lower and it looks like we’re better than white people in that way. You’re not. Men of all races rape women and girls. But black women will choose to watch their daughters suffer rather than put another one of you in jail. It’s sick stuff. And it’s what many of you are trying to do with Cosby, R., and MJ.

    Since you have such a problem with the oversexed stereotype, I hope you’re not one who pushes the big black dack fallacy.

  • Mikayla

    Can’t arrest a man on rape charges if the rape isn’t reported, can you? I hope the awakening going on now, among black women, leads to a reversal of roles in the black “community” — reversal to what is right and what was reversed in slavery. WOMEN AND GIRLS being protected, rather than thrown under the bus so the poe black man don’t get sent up the river (he deserves to be under) by “whitey.”

    Those rape arrest statistics will became closer to accurate.

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