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The damages phase has begun one day after a Los Angeles jury found pop singer Katy Perry and her collaborators guilty of lifting a musical passage from Christian rap song "Joyful Noise."

The jury found Perry's 2013 hit "Dark Horse" sounded very similar to "Joyful Noise," by rapper Marcus Gray, who is known by his stage name Flame.

The jury is now deciding the damages Perry, 34, and her collaborators should pay Gray, 37.

The jury also found Perry's collaborators - including singer/songwriter Sarah Hudson and music producers Lukasz "Dr. Luke" Gottwald, Max Martin and Cirkut - had the opportunity to listen to "Joyful Noise" after Gray submitted a demo of his song to them.

"This was a case about taking," Gray's attorney, Michael Kahn, said in his closing argument Thursday. "The defendants copied an important part of (Gray's) song."

But Perry's lawyer, Christine Lepera, said the electronic beat is so "commonplace" that it cannot be copyrighted.

"It is commonplace expression," she said, adding that the "unremarkable" beat in Gray's song is the only element the two tracks have in common.

"There is no reasonable basis to assume" Perry and her collaborators ever heard "Joyful Noise," Lepera said. But the judge disagreed.

U.S. District Judge Christina Snyder wrote that the plaintiff proved his case and he was entitled to a trial because the Grammy-Nominated "Joyful Noise" achieved critical success and was readily available and viewed millions of times on YouTube and MySpace."

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  • WhoKnew

    Kudos to the jury! I get so tired of hearing about people who steal other people's music and film script ideas and have gotten away with it. This trick lied and said she'd never heard the song before and that she wrote it in 4 hours after drinking some wine. GTFOH.

  • SpiceGirl

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    You know you done messed up..right? #CantMakeItGoAway

  • stav

    Well there is a whole lot of white music and producers that needs to be brought to justice for stealing from blacks since the institution ,that is of recording music began!

  • Karen Brady

    Did she say what kind of wine?

  • MrsSpice1

    Thats some demonic bs!!! How you copy a holy song in turn it into some mockery of some dark foolery??? Ugh...thats what she get... agein like a prume, 34?....plz?!! Her music is trash anyway.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Stealing folks creativity ...smfh!

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    Good for him.

  • Mark mcharm

    The christians rapper got a pay day and free publicity christmas came early for him.

  • Russiancreme

    Heard this on the news this morning. Soon as they played the original I'm like yep you need to pay up. Her excuse was she never heard the song before. Obviously, the producer did.

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  • Bree

    Just pay the man and move on. I wonder why didn't they pay him to begin with. Her song was created in 2013, this is six years later. I don't understand stealing someone else's hard work.

  • MsPam

    In other news, did y’all hear about the 10 year old getting charged with assault after hitting a yt boy in dodgeball?! Get out of here!!!!

  • grenadiadrian

    Franzia

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Welp, pay up!

  • Kimocha

    Yes I did... And it's obviously some racist BS as usual!... Smdh!!!

  • CardiB’sAbs

    That pissed me clean off! If your child is that frail, why was the school not alerted and why was he participating! The criminalization of young black boys continues-school to prison pipeline by any means necessary.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Carlos Rossi

  • Karen Brady

    Teeee heeee.... I just chuckled my azz off. Drank the whole box and then stole a song. SMH.

  • Karen Brady

    I swear! Ya'll have me howling!!!!!!!!!

  • AmericanDream

    This could be more of the producers fault. Like Robin thicke's 'blurred line' produced by Pharrell. He had to have known considering how sampling use is so extensive in hip hop but thought he was too smart or cool to get a clearance . Oh well

  • Russiancreme

    Another case of them taking care of each other. The incident happened in April, the boy got suspended from school for a day, and now they want him to have a criminal record. Over dodge ball. You was supposed to dodge it Billy!!!! Not stand there n get a black eye.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I played dodgeball with evil kids when I was in middle school. Some kids aim for your head and try to kill you with that ball. ?

  • Dowoop

    Lies!

  • Sam

    Proving God really doesn't like ugly. I like your avi, btw.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The rules in dodge ball are don't throw the ball above the waist. If the kid got a black eye it means the ball was aimed at his face.

  • ShWa

    That's what her and her staff get now pay the man u biters always stealing!

  • WhoKnew

    It was Boone's Farm or Manischewitz.

  • WhoKnew

    Right...talm bout blurred lines. That's a hoot!

  • iWasteTime

    That beat slaps

  • Mama Dee’s Wig Maker

    Good for this young man.

  • Russiancreme

    No it doesn't. Years ago I hit another kid square in his face playing dodge ball. I wasn't even aiming at him, he literally ran across and into the ball. Of course I got in trouble when he SCREAMED bloody murder. At the young age of 11, I was able to point out to the camp director that his workers were over in the corner fraternizing and left a bunch of kids in an open gym to throw hard bouncy balls at each other. Thankfully, he wasn't vindictive and the police weren't called.

  • Marlika

    Ugh she really needs to go back to dark hair with her thieving ass!??????

  • CardiB’sAbs

    That’s not how it’s played in the states.

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com Ms.Devereaux

    Quit STEEEEEEALING!! Or borrowing or getting inspired by someone else’s talent and hard work you signed up to be a performer and artist so come up with your own stuff and you wouldn’t have to worry about if the beats and songs you buying from others has been stolen from another! Dang ?

  • tintin

    wouldn't it have been cheaper to get the clearance. considering Katy's song was big and made a lot of money, won't she end up paying out more now?

  • tintin

    yep cause i was on spotify this morning to hear the similarities. The christian song bops

  • tintin

    what's crazy is i read that the producers claim to have never heard Flame's song yet here it says he submitted his demo to them. Damn YT ppl so lie.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Katy should have hired the same people Bey used for that Formation lawsuit...

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  • Nophace

    This has been happening since the beginning so I'm not surprised, it's in their nature!!!

  • JustLookn

    Congratulations so happy for you brother!

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  • Renee26

    That keyboard sound could be found in any song... Didn't sound similar enough to me but I suppose since the guy gave his demo to them he had a case.

  • Renee26

    Yeah but it's not a criminal act... Get ya block game or running game up

  • Dowoop

    The ball doesn't always go where it's meant to.

  • Bossy704

    Get your coins Marcus!!! I don't blame Katy it was the lying a** producers.

  • stav

    I agree with everything, but men! They go willingly, once money comes into the picture.

  • Dowoop

    OT: That big dummy Tristan Thompson got back together with his first baby mother. This one is no better. This man publicly humiliated you and you get back with him.

  • JustLookn

    I threw it in for controversy. Those that go that way we don't wsnt em.
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  • Renee26

    ?

  • PrettyMeka08

    Reminds me of “Moments in Love” by Art of Noise.

  • Renee26

    The whole gallon huh

  • PrettyMeka08

    “Moments in Love” by Art of Noise.

  • DREAM KARDASHIANS STROLLER

    Lmaoooooo kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!??????

  • stav

    She wasn't humiliated , she was in on the plan. Tristan used Khlorre to boost his profile( and she did), no one ever spoke of him in the media. So he got a higher profile, Khloe got a black child, and the first child's mother already stated he paid her not to mess around with anyone else while he was using Khloe, and she was ok with it.

  • Renee26

    Wait... Where did she say he was paying her not to date other men?? Last I heard she was complaining cause he's only seen his son a handful of times since he was born.

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  • Mo Laughz

    I'm sure he would have wanted some type of royalties which means he would have made money off the song for the rest of his life. Is lawsuit as a one-time payment for damages..

  • Carrington

    Well, depending upon what they award him, this may be his come up... sometimes there's a silver lining.

  • Coy little wink

    I wonder will Queen Naija have to pay up her song sounds exactly like that gospel tune by John p. kee...

  • Coy little wink

    I read it on RWS

  • Kimocha

    This ain't nothing new... Wyt ppl been stealing from blk folk for decades... ESPECIALLY they music!... I hope Flame get's a BIG payout.

  • currvalicious

    Congratulations Mr. Gray; you're about to be com a a millionaire. Katy & team hurry up and cut the damn check. And no appeals!

  • TheOwley

    She's a satanist. He better get himself a talisman.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Lolol

  • hottlanta

    All right new kids on the block u guys copied new edition style. Pay up.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Drag her. Robyn stopped fukkin with her and now I do too. Not sure why they fell out but fukk her

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  • Not Today

    And "hair bonnet's"

  • http://welfareinfo.org angrysolo

    didn’t sound similar enough to me either. truth be told, that whole Robin Thicke/Marvin Gaye estate debacle wasn’t like they straight up stole either.

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  • Renee26

    Whew Chile this is messy messy

    The nerve

  • stav

    Grrrrrl....don't even get me started!

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  • hottlanta

    Still laughing at the white lady who said she invented the satin bonnet. She put a 2 foot ugly azz bow on top n called it her invention. Toooo funny. Black twitter wasnt having it

  • Logan Roberts

    Justice prevails. Amen ?.

  • Solo

    In the might jungle the lions sleep tonight... but they don't hear you though.

  • Raquelle Dellaghetto

    And she charged like 90bucks for it???

  • Raquelle Dellaghetto

    She needs to hire Beyonce's ppl because this wouldn't even come to light if she had Bey's ppl on payroll!!

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    It amazes me that people continue to steal intellectual property when you can call the person, include them in the project and we all make money. Hopefully. Isn't it ironic how no one EVER stole? It's just coincidence?

  • Chapter29Chick

    He looks 10 years younger than her, but he is older # BDC

  • Ms. Jackson

    I like him
    Good for him. Too bad for her and her crew tho. Cause I believe he may get quite a good meal ticket off this. I wish there was a piece of the sample here, I'm too lazy to search ??

  • Allihave2say

    she killed a nun who called her a witch.

  • Allihave2say

    Jordy Craig filed a lawsuit against TT stating her son isn't living the same as True and it's unfair. In the court documents there was a deposition in which TT argued he gave her $100k in child support lump sum, and JC stated he paid her to not date other men and to be available for him.

  • Allihave2say

    She wasn't in on a plan with TT. She kept his secrets and his confidence in the media. TT is self serving just like Lamar Odom and saw Khloe as a ticket to stardom and he was right. However, it backfired on both negroes.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    This also happens because it can take 10 people to write one song.

    I heard the sample, and they were similar, but the way the jury heard it, slowed down, on top of the other made it clear for them! Songwriters steal now and pay later (if caught).

    Katie will be OK, just give up some of those IDOL paychecks! It was probably that Dr. Luke, ijs!

  • stav

    She was paid not to date anyone else, while he galavanted with Khloe...so yes she was in on it. Also I don't see how TT was negatively affected, his profile was raised, which he set out to do, he may or may not be back with the child's mom he preferred, and he's still rich, where is the loss for him?

  • Rodmilla De Ghent

    like the country and rock n roll genres

  • stav

    Exactly!

  • Kimberly King

    They steal from blacks all the time. With their unoriginal, lame asses.

  • Allihave2say

    I'm not debating with you. I believe Jordy. I believe TT saw greed and attention which he got, but he also suffered some professional and social consequences from his peers for his actions.

  • stav

    I'm certain he could care less regarding those consequences, which there (imo)still wasn't any. That man could care less that the world knows he's a cheater. It did not affect his work(money), or his profile..cheating is pretty much expected in the sports world.

  • Allihave2say

    Well, it was after exposure that the other teammates wouldn't shake his hand. Then he started posting pics of himself with his kids. Tristan has a guaranteed $80M contract.