My readers are never at a loss for words when browbeating me about some comment I made. Yesterday I got it from all sides. If readers weren't attacking me for my opinion on children who act too grown, they were reprimanding me for joking about the Williams sisters tithing to the Watchtower Society.

Loyal reader Crysta writes:

Ms. Rose, as a 4th generation Jehovah's Witness, I can firmly assure you that the Williams sisters are under no obligation to give the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society a large chunk of their money. No member is. Any money that is donated is done so in accordance with 2 Corinthians 9:7-- Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Of the Williams' sisters tithing a good chunk of their income to the church, she writes:

Any amounts donated by the Williams sisters is private, there are no tallies kept, nor special privileges offered to those who donate. They could very well put the money into a contribution box anonymously, without anyone ever knowing whom it came from.

That may be so. But the reality is that all organized religions depend upon their members for financial support, excuse me, tithing.

When I was younger, the church collection plate was passed around during Sunday services, and everyone - including children - were expected to put something in the platter. Nowadays, ATM machines sit by the church door, and in lieu of passing the plate, members are instead given "Tithe Application Forms" forms to fill out.

They then meet with anointed financial advisers who inform them exactly what percentage of their minimum wage earnings they are expected to tithe every Sunday. Those who fall short of their church offerings receive gentle reminders in the form of "financial counseling".

I think it's presumptuous of Crystal to assume the Watchtower Society isn't keeping tabs on how much the Williams sisters earn and what percentage they are tithing. But I could be wrong. I almost always am.

  • shunda

    Sandra.. you are right about the fact that some churches ask for income forms from their members. I believe that is mostly Mega Churches. My church asks for $10 a week. It is to ofset the cost of members kids in the school. I go to a catholic church. My brother goes to a mega church that asked him to supply his W2's

  • katgirl33

    I think it’s presumptuous of Crystal to assume the Watchtower Society isn’t keeping tabs on how much the Williams sisters earn and what percentage they are tithing. But I could be wrong. I almost always am.
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    ITA with you today Sandra....don't they have to, so that the sisters can keep consistent records w/the IRS?

  • NYCUTIE

    I don't think it is right for any church to ask for anything..

  • katgirl33

    Churches ask for W-2s?!?!?!!?!? WOW!

  • karaz

    on a different note, what's up with Venus, she's looking more feminine in both pics, style still isn't quite there but its much improved. And Serena is still Serena.

  • shunda

    @katgirl
    They sure did he still goes the church (idiot) and that is what they based his tithing and offering on. We do know that those are 2 seperate things. In my church growing up tithing was your 10percent and offering was what you wanted to give.

  • brwnsugga4you

    i heard creflo's church asks for w-2's...i'm not sure of it..? if anyone on here goes to world changes can you please clarify?

  • Anna

    My pastor does not drive a Benz, She does not have a ATM in our church and we give from the heart.

  • shunda

    Oh and Sandra you forgot the churches that let you pay through their websites with a credit card

  • MOCHAMOMMY

    Thank God I go to a small church and they happily take what u give. My pastor is not supported financially and everyone works, including him. Never have I been to a church, big or small, that offers financial counseling. We're told to give 10% of our gross because thats in the bible. If u dont give what God asks of u in his word, then u will be dealt with by Him, not ur church

  • shunda

    I am not at all trying to be funny but I am sure my church is still trying to contribute to the Catholic defense fund for all the wack jobs that decided to touch little kids.

  • bklynchick

    @brwnsugga
    I heard the same thing. I also heard that he has this machine that scks up all the money when they empty out the baskets? Not sure if that is tru so don't quote me on that.

    I feel like this about giving to the chruch or to anything in general. When I give the chruch I give because God has given me so much I can't pay him for what he does for me and my family. So I give for in God's name. Now what the chruch does with it is not my issue. That goes for if I give to an organization or to a homeless person they have to give in account to God for what they do with it. I don't get caught up in the hype with where the money goes in chruches I come to praise the lord and thank him for blessing me when I go to chruch.

  • MOCHAMOMMY

    Thats exactly how I feel, brklynchick!! Can we talk about this pic for a sec? They look like 2 burly men in drag...

  • katgirl33

    bklynchick Says:

    @brwnsugga
    I heard the same thing. I also heard that he has this machine that scks up all the money when they empty out the baskets? Not sure if that is tru so don’t quote me on that.
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    What?!?!!? A money vacuum??? Don't make me laugh at the church...y'all gon damn me to hell LOL LOL LOL

  • Anna

    shunda Says:

    I am not at all trying to be funny but I am sure my church is still trying to contribute to the Catholic defense fund for all the wack jobs that decided to touch little kids.
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    Is the Catholic Church all One. The Catholic Church has million and millions of dollars. I heard that all the church's pool their money together and disburse it accordingly.

  • katgirl33

    Yeah Venus is looking more girly....I thought it was the other one at first...I had to look again....Lost weight?

  • bklynchick

    I meant church sorry so many typos typing fast so the super won't catch me!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    My readers are never at a loss for words when browbeating me about some comment I made.
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    Girl, you ain't never lied. We be on it don't we? hehehe

    Anywho, I admit I have not studied the Bible like I should, but what I did read said you should give a tenth of your income so 2 Corinthians 9:7– Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart... is news to me. Good news at that. Now I don't have to feel guilty when I can't afford to give a tenth. Sandra please tell me you were joking when you said you see ATM's at churches. Please tell me that. PLEASE. Other than that how else is a church supposed to pay the bills if not for the contributions of the worshippers. Churches don't get free buildings, electric, water, etc. And I just happend to be a person who believes Pastor should not have to work a full time job and still be able to run the church effectively so someone has to give him a salary. That being said I do have a HUGE problem with many pastors obvious materialism and greed particularly when they and their churches are not lifting a finger to even bring in followers let along going out and helping their community. Church has turned into a very lucrative racket.

  • shunda

    @Anna
    I know at my church the money collected stays in the church and school. I wish they did distribute it accordingly then the school would look better. There are some churches in my area that collect $20,000 a Sunday. We have catholic charities collections that go to all the churches.

  • brwnsugga4you

    bklynchick Says:

    @brwnsugga
    I heard the same thing. I also heard that he has this machine that scks up all the money when they empty out the baskets? Not sure if that is tru so don’t quote me on that.

    ~~~if that's true...then that's sad. myabe that's why he won't turn over his financial staments....i wonder if my pastor is on that same road..i saw him on cascade with the new sl 500..i had to do a double take...w/the rims..might i add...lol!!~~~

  • Detroit48205

    I think it’s presumptuous of Crystal to assume the Watchtower Society isn’t keeping tabs on how much the Williams sisters earn and what percentage they are tithing. But I could be wrong. I almost always am.
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    ITA with you today Sandra….don’t they have to, so that the sisters can keep consistent records w/the IRS?

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    At the end of year, churches give each member a tally of how much money they've tithed, so it can be claimed on the individuals taxes for that year.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    My dad used to belong to one of those churches that makes you pledge your tithe at the beginning of the year so that they can bill you monthly. When he fell on hard times and stopped paying they pursued him agressively. Needless to say they didn't offer not even a word of advice or a prayer about his financial difficulties. It wasn't a black church though. But he deserved it because my dad is not really a Christian. He joined that church for networking purposes as all of the members were affluent.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    bklynchick Says:

    i wonder if my pastor is on that same road..i saw him on cascade with the new sl 500..i had to do a double take…w/the rims..might i add…lol!!~~~
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    Let's hope that fly rims were factory standard issue. There were spinning were they? lol

  • ThatCarmen

    let me go check on the stock market until the next post.

  • brwnsugga4you

    ^^^they weren't spinning....lol^^^

  • The Divine Ms. K

    MOCHAMOMMY Says:

    Thank God I go to a small church and they happily take what u give. My pastor is not supported financially and everyone works, including him. Never have I been to a church, big or small, that offers financial counseling. We’re told to give 10% of our gross because thats in the bible. If u dont give what God asks of u in his word, then u will be dealt with by Him, not ur church
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    I am very very happy at my small church too! None of us are paid and all of our ministry serving is done on a volunteer basis. Here in the Dallas area, we have tons of mega-churches it seems, so I know there are some w/ ATMs, though I'm not sure if they ask for W2s. It always sat wrong with me, but if they like it, they can continue to do it. But, those are the same churches that have "reserved" seating up front near the pastor/bishop where "regular" folks can't (aren't allowed???) to sit.

    When visitors come to our church, my pastor is quick to tell them, don't tithe here - tithe at your home church. If you don't have one, we'll take it. But, if you can't give it willingly - just don't give. Wait until the spirit moves you to do so and you are happy to do so.

    I don't think we'll ever have hundreds of members, because quite frankly, we are a church that teaches only what the Bible says - no prosperity preaching, no "black power" preaching - and that is not popular with people a lot.

  • Topnotch

    I AGREE SANDRA..THERES A PROMINENT CHURCH HERE IN HOUSTON THAT WANT TO SEE YOUR W2'S! A FRIEND OF MINE AND I JUST HAD A CONVO ON THIS SUBJECT. WHEN YOURE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET ITS KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE TO SEE YOUR PASTOR IN TAILORED SUITS DRIVING MORE THAN ONE EUROPEAN CAR AND DECKED OUT IN DIAMONDS... THATS WHY I STOP GOIN TO CHURCH...LIKE IM OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR THE SAVING OF MY SOUL..

  • PAGESINADIARY

    My mom is a Jehovahs Witness. They dont do the tithing thing period. No plates are passed around. It is put in a contribution box and no one knows who put it there. They dont send yearly statements for tax purposes either.

  • prynsexxx

    Why can't they just cover the expenses from the "building fund" and they "love offerings". When the plate is passed around the chu'uch more than once during church service, that is clear indication that the pastor is lining his own pockets for safe keeping.

    Building funds have been a "churchhold" name for centuries and they won't even put a decent doorknob in the place. I'm just sayin'.

  • Nix

    I'm so glad that my church doesn't ask to see how much you make, that sounds fishy to me. I don't think that I will go to a church that will do that.

    However I do believe in tithing. I have seen things in my life increase as a result. I also believe in giving offering because we need to give money to get the Gospel out, to fund church activities, salaries of the people who work for the ministry and to keep the lights on. Plus we will be blessed for giving.

  • solodove2008

    Are you all serious? ATMs? W2s? I guess that is why so many people shy away from organized religions. Wow!

    Bird, seems to me when your dad fell on hard times the church should have stepped in and helped him out.

  • prynsexxx

    #31 said:

    Bird, seems to me when your dad fell on hard times the church should have stepped in and helped him out.
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    Not speaking for Bird......but trust, they do. My family's church did, when my mother had to bury her son, daughter, aunt and mother. They stepped up. That I can say, but they should have being that she is there f'n Sunday to Sunday. My goodness! LOL

  • tiffanikitti

    Detroit48205 Says:

    I think it’s presumptuous of Crystal to assume the Watchtower Society isn’t keeping tabs on how much the Williams sisters earn and what percentage they are tithing. But I could be wrong. I almost always am.
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    ITA with you today Sandra….don’t they have to, so that the sisters can keep consistent records w/the IRS?

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    At the end of year, churches give each member a tally of how much money they’ve tithed, so it can be claimed on the individuals taxes for that year.
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    Wrong again Sandra...

    What financial contributions are expected of those attending meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses?

    Regarding money contributions, the apostle Paul said: "Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." (2 Corinthians 9:7) At the Kingdom Halls and convention auditoriums of Jehovah's Witnesses, no collections are ever taken. Boxes are placed so that it is convenient for any who wish to contribute to do so. No one knows what or if others give. Some are able to give more than others; some may not be able to give anything. Jesus showed the right view when he commented on the treasury box at the temple in Jerusalem and those contributing: It is one's capacity to give and the spirit of giving that count, not the amount of money.—Luke 21:1-4.

  • Nix

    I don't see anything wrong with churches having financial siminars though. I've attended a 10 week class and it was very resourceful. They taught how to lower mortgage, the best Retirement plans, mutual funds, stock market, wisdom on shopping. Some members in the fields of Real Estate, Insurance, Banking, and other resources spoke. They didn't ask for anything in return, they were just educating us. The world offer the same classes at Community Classes and we don't complain about that. The world even charge for those classes.

  • Nix

    I mean community colleges.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hune916 HunE916

    Bottom line is, unless you've attended EVERY CHURCH IN THE NATION, you don't know what they do; if they collect money, how much or where it goes. It's not a good thing to make broad assumptions about something so many people hold dear to them.

    Hell, and I ain't even remotely religious!

  • solodove2008

    Prynsexxx sorry that your mom had to bury so many family members. Wow!

  • http://www.crys-thecrystalmethod.blogspot.com/ Crys

    "All things come of Thee O Lord, and of thine own have we given thee."

    it says of THINE own - not MINE own

  • teecee

    wow ...
    what kind of churches are you all attending

    i have never in all of my day of attending many different churches ever had one ask how much i was making or demanded that i tithe or else.

    seems as tho you are being followers rather than using that free will god gave you to read and attend a church that seeks christ first.

    if the williams want to give money to a church then do so.

    i know the churches im affiliated with do wonderful work with kids and abused women. if i had the cash they have i give a chunk to the churches out here feeding the homeless, helping the kids, prisoners, giving jobs, and putting broken lives back together. people bring their own personalities in church, but if it isnt one of seeking christ or doing the things that he commanded us to then leave.

    people always pick out the bad churches as examples of all churches. the last time i checked the people made the church and the church survives on the peoples money. if they didnt give the money the soup line that wraps around the building today at 5, they wouldnt be able to feed these women children and men. i might not want to give, but if i dont who will.

  • Sindy

    ahhh poor Sandra Rose, is looking for pity.

  • sumpthinspecial

    This post is a little late but I feel necessary...

    I too was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and I can attest to the fact that contributions are given anonymously and from the heart. There is no announcement of the need for money for the “building fund”, no basket passed around for money, and certainly no need to submit check stubs so an accurate 10% can be calculated --much like what is found in churches. The contribution box is a brown box usually located by the door and one can contribute as he or she pleases --or not -- on the way out. It's true, the box is not monitored to see whom is giving and how much. As far as the needs of the Kingdom Hall, Jehovah's Witnesses come from all walks of life and have many talents. Some are carpenters, plumbers, etc., most of the work that is done on the Kingdom Hall and print work for publications is done from donations - some donations are time, some are money, and some are skill. That's how we get things done.

    Ignorance is bliss so of course you’re happy to be critical about subjects with which you have no knowledge. Subjects like Jehovah’s Witnesses. It’s okay though because Jehovah is a loving and forgiving God. HE is slow to anger and always forgives.

  • katgirl33

    Venus and Serena are worth millions of dollars. I find it very hard to believe that the Kingdom Hall they attend don't know how much them sisters are tithing....they know about them hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    I do not think that they are tithing like the other members normally do....If I was a member of their church, in charge of the collection box, and I get it and it's 10,000 in there, you think I ain't gon know who put it in there???? Come on now......We are talking about Venus and Serena Williams, not regular people w/regular money......

  • AlwaysSweet

    Jehovah's Witnesses don't tithe. As a matter of fact, they don't have to give anything if they don't want to. All contributions are voluntary. You can drop money in the contribution box that's located right by the door if you want to. If you don't want to give that's your choice and you can keep on walking right through the door. No one is standing by the door to see if you contributed or how much you contributed. There are no plates passed around either. How much you give is between you and Jehovah.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    As one of Jehovah's Witnesses who attend all five meetings every week we give freely from our hearts whatever amount we can afford we don’t give tithe 10% nor are we asked too there are no ATM at any of our congregations. Everyone circumstance are different. I can speak on other religions but I can speak about mine.
    Before I became one of Jehovah's Witnesses I did attend Pastor T. D Jakes church and there is an ATM in the Lobby as soon as you walk up the stairs....
    When it comes to filing taxes in regards to donation the IRS does not ask for receipts because they only give you a certain allowance anyway... Not again!!!!LOL
    Bottom line tithing is not a term mention at any of our meeting we call them donations and there is not a certain amount to give. Unless you have been to a kingdom hall and have seen the arrangement then you can really speak on something you don’t know. Please don’t assume ask if you don’t know we are more than happy to explain. I have typed some information below for those who are interested. Thanks

    Malichi3:10—Does the bringing in of “all the tenth parts,” or tithing, represent giving our all to Jehovah? The Mosaic Law was abolished on the basis of Jesus’ death, so monetary tithing is not a requirement. Yet, tithing has a symbolic meaning. (Ephesians 2:15) It does not represent the giving of our all. While the tenth part was brought year after year, we bring our all to Jehovah only once—when we dedicate ourselves to him and symbolize our dedication by undergoing water baptism. From that time on, everything we have belongs to Jehovah. Still, he allows us to choose a portion of what we have—a symbolic tithe—to use in his service. It is whatever our circumstances allow and our heart impels us to use. The offerings we bring to Jehovah include the time, energy, and resources used in the Kingdom-preaching and disciple-making work. Also included are attending Christian meetings, visiting sick and elderly fellow believers, and rendering financial support to true worship.

    • Why is tithing not required of Christians?
    Under the Law given to ancient Israel, tithing was a means of supporting the tribe of Levi and caring for needy ones. (Leviticus 27:30; Deuteronomy 14:28, 29) The sacrificial death of Jesus abolished the Law and its tithing requirement. (Ephesians 2:13-15) In the early congregation, the pattern was for each Christian to give according to his means and as he resolved in his heart. (2 Corinthians 9:5, 7)

    Q. Do Jehovah’s witnesses practice tithing?
    A. No. In Jehovah’s pre-Christian congregation tithing was God’s method of supporting his temple workers called Levites, who had no tribal land other than certain cities. Even then Jehovah’s worshipers were free to volunteer contributions for special projects such as the tabernacle furnishings and later the temple. (Ex. 35:29; 1 Chro. 29:17) Jehovah nailed the old Law covenant to Jesus’ torture stake. As Paul states: “Christ is the accomplished end of the Law.” (Rom. 10:4) Christian giving operates entirely by love, never by compulsion, as outlined at 2 Corinthians 9:7: “Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” This is the Scriptural method practiced by Jehovah’s witnesses.

    Is it Scriptural for Christendom’s religions to raise money by tithing, the passing of collection plates and the use of gambling devices?
    Tithing or the giving of one tenth of one’s income applied only to the Jews. It was one of the decrees in the Law of Moses. By his death Christ abolished that Law so that not even Jewish Christians are obliged to keep the decrees such as tithing. Says the Bible: “By means of his flesh he abolished the hatred, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees.”—Eph. 2:15, NW.
    Nor is the passing of a collection plate the Christian way. We remember how Jesus once observed a widow dropping two small coins into the treasury chest in the temple. But this chest was not passed around; it was fixed.
    The use of bingo, raffles and other gambling methods is contrary to the Bible rule for Christians: “We have renounced the underhanded things of which to be ashamed.” When the Israelites began sacrificing to some of the pagan deities of gambling, God told them: “Ye that forsake Jehovah, . . . that prepare a table for Fortune, and that fill up mingled wine unto Destiny; I will destine you to the sword.”—2 Cor. 4:2, NW; Isa. 65:11, 12, AS.
    By stressing money raising and neglecting spiritual food, the clergy have brought about a situation that is similar to the time in Israel when God’s prophet said: “The priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet they lean upon Jehovah, and say, Is not Jehovah in the midst of us?” Jesus’ words to those who used God’s temple for commercial purposes are apt today: “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it a cave of robbers.”—Mic. 3:11, AS; Matt. 21:13, NW.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    Nothing is given to us at the end of the year to tell us how much we contributed everything is put in contribution boxes at your on convenience. As another poster said you dont even have too give if you dont want too. And no one will ever know because its not set up that way... OMG

  • kalvonel

    Being that you, Sandra, are 'on the outside looking in' I can see why you may think that way. I also think it’s rather presumptuous to make such definitive comments on things you clearly know nothing about Sandra. It's one thing to voice your opinion, but to suggest that someone else is naive when you yourself are practically clueless on a given situation is beyond presumptous. Frankly, the closest Jehovah's Witnesses come to tracking any contributions is the legal tax forms given to those that want to make a contribution greater than $250.00 AND want to then claim it on their taxes. If the person doesn't want to claim it come tax season then they can remain completly anonymous. Jehovah's Witnesses do not tithe (in the traditional sense) in any way. I have been closely invovled, as a Witness, in the process of collecting contributions and truly I tell you, if the person didn't write a check - we have no idea who gave what.

  • kalvonel

    once again, SnootyPooty: Love ya sis!

  • brwnsugga4you

    YOU GO SNOOTY...you broke it all the way down!...another lesson learned for me today :>!

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    I love you too BROTHER!!!!!!

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @brwnsugga4you.... Girl I learn something new on this site everyday.... It can be very informative at times...

  • http://www.myspace.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

    my snooty said it all but on a side note im sure the williams sisters live in a affluent community and probably the members of the congregation they attend are pretty well off so if they making regular contributions it probably doesnt stand out because more than likely the other members of the congregation give just as much. unlike most churchs people attend you attend the kingdom hall in your area so the donations gonna be indicative of the community you are living in

  • alove

    I am a member of Pastor Creflo Dollar's Church. There is no collection of W-2's and no financial information collected by the church. There is not an ATM on the church grounds. I have been a member since 1989. You can give money using your Visa check card,bank acct etc. You can have automatic withdrawal of the funds from your accounts if you desire as well. It's amazing how the untruth about how the church operates continues to spread around the world.

  • ThatCarmen

    I know Im suppose to be watering plants and checking on the stock market...but, let me see if I put the right amount of money away for my prayer cloth..... or better yet, if I buy one of those books, I think I get one free.

    I know Im going to all kinds of hell this week according to some people... but, here it goes...

    Creflo does take notice of his critics “Some people get mad when I talk about money, They says” Whenever I see Dollar he’s talking about Money!’ That’s because you aint got none, I aint talking to you!” (TBN, Praise-A – Thon April 1, 2001)
    “People get mad and say ‘All they want is your money!’ Well, you aint got no money anyway” (Creflo Dollar, (TBN, Praise-A – Thon April 1, 2001)
    Creflo states “Money doesn't define my richness. Money doesn't define my wealth. The money is a result of what's on the inside of me. Money will come, but you've got to give it a reason to come. Whew!”… “All right, let's call this harvest in. Say it out loud with me. In the name of Jesus, as a child of God, as the redeemed of the Lord, I command the harvest that's crying out for me, come forth now! Angels go! Bring that harvest of wealth! Bring that harvest of anointing! Bring that harvest of restored things! Bring it to me now! In the name of Jesus, I receive my harvest…NOW! (Congregation shouting) (Changing Your World Sept.16,1998).
    Jesus said: God has made the poor of this world rich in faith! This did not make them rich. Prov.13:7: “There is one who makes himself rich, yet has nothing; and one who makes himself poor, yet has great riches.” That would be God’s spirit, forgiveness, peace and friends that he can trust.
    When Jesus sent the disciples out to do ministry he said “He commanded them to take nothing for the journey except a staff-- no bag, no bread, no copper in their money belts--but to wear sandals, and not to put on two tunics” (Mark 6:8-9). He sent them out looking like regular people learning to be God dependent. At His last night with them before his death-- Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one” (Luke 22:36).
    On the additions/subtractions and all that in between that has been done to create religions...
    Jeremiah 14:14
    14Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart
    Matthew 24:24
    24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    2 Timothy 4:2-4
    2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

    3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

  • Imalover

    Hi Friends. Another thing most visitors to the Kingdom Hall find surprisingly refreshing is that at the end of each month the treasurer provides a thorough accounting from the podium before the entire congregation. This accounting includes but is not limited to: how much has been received in donations, surplus or deficit amounts and amounts of bills paid for each month. Our elders receive absolutely no monetary compensation for the loving work they provide in shepherding the flock. They do it out of love and understand that it is indeed a privilege to serve. It’s really a loving bible based organization - having recently returned after leaving for a few years I realize and appreciate it now more than ever.

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @ThatCarmen.... One thing I can say we dont sell our literature it is given away free even Bibles. Jesus did not charge either...

  • ThatCarmen

    Snooty, I absolutely respect your passion and love for your faith. ...not that you need my respect but, I just thought I would say that. God judges hearts and he knows who is working to be closer to him and who is not. :) xoxo

  • Too Tight

    Once again Sandra does not know what she is talking about THERE IS NO TITHING I REPEAT THERE IS NO TITHING in the Jehovah Witness religion I grew up a Jehovah Witness and I have never been told what I had to DONATE. When it comes to gossip and none sense that means nothing I usually have nothing to say but please PLEASE do not speak on what you DON'T know and unless you have been to a kingdom hall, district convention or circuit or special day assembly you do not know what goes on in a hall and if anybody tells you that tithing goes on in the Jehovah Witness organization it is nothing more than GOSSIP

  • http://myspace.com/mullatos SnootyPooty1

    @ThatCarmen.... Thank you.. Everyone is passionate about something right well if they love it and its close to their heart....

  • Paris Hilton’s Valtrex

    I grew up in a Witness Family and I still visit the Halls on occasion and I can tell you Sandra, in no way, shape or fashion is there a requirement for members to donate any money. You simply give what you can. There is a box for donations. No one is pressured to donate and there are no tabs kept on who donates what. Everything is confidential with no pressure.

    Thats one of the things that separates Witnesses from other religions. They don't believe in "tithes". They don't believe in forcing one to give up their salary. So the Williams' are neither required nor expected to give up anything.