Viewers loved the premiere of Tyler Perry’s ‘The Haves and the Have Nots’ on Oprah’s OWN Network. The series premiere drew record ratings for Tyler and Oprah’s joint partnership. But the critics reviews of the show were brutal.
The show’s stars, Tika Sumpter, left, Renee Lawless and John Schneider helped to make “The Haves and the Have Nots” the network’s highest-rated premiere “ever,” according to a release from OWN.
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“The Haves and the Have Nots” is typical of Tyler Perry’s obsession with glorifying the greedy “haves” while pitying the needy “have-nots” in his films.
Los Angeles Times critic Mary McNamara called the show “so awful that the awfulness appears intentional.”
From LA Times:
The 9 p.m. airing delivered 1.77 million viewers (1.57 million of them women age 25-54). The second episode at 10 p.m. grew to 1.8 million viewers (1.67 million were women 25-54).
However, initial reviews for the series were not kind. OWN did not send the show out to critics prior to its premiere, mirroring Perry’s policy of not allowing his films to be pre-screened for reviewers.
Brian Lowry of Variety called the show “claustrophobically cheap, not to mention poorly written and indifferently acted.” He added that the show could potentially damage Winfrey’s legacy of uplift and self-empowerment.
Mary McNamara of the Los Angeles Times was even more scathing, calling the show “so awful that the awfulness appears intentional. Except that might make it interesting, and it just isn’t.”
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Who’s dyck is Tyler suckin to keep being able to put this chit on tv???
i cant even check it out until xfinity puts own on HD channels
Those critics tho!!!
I have it recorded…haven’t watched yet…I keep reading that it’s like a soap opera…then what’s the problem…young and the restless been kicking strong for decades
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
Who’s dyck is Tyler suckin to keep being able to put this chit on tv???
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Yeah, that jewelry box must have some mean suction!
I’m still going to give it another chance
He added that the show could potentially damage Winfrey’s legacy of uplift and self-empowerment.
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I wonder if folks know OWN is a network just like ABC, NBC etc…there’s a variety of programming that’s put on…stay mad that a BLACK WOMAN owns her network
I missed it. When will it air again? I want to see for myself.
Awww too bad for the critics. I’m afraid they have to watch till the ppl who don’t read reviews btw stop..watching. Vicious. Lololol.
I enjoyed it. Critics give scandal a mediocre 3.5. I give it a solid every thursday night like clockwork five.
idk what I’m gonna do now.. :headthump:
1.77 million viewers (1.57 million of them women age 25-54). The second episode at 10 p.m. grew to 1.8 million viewers (1.67 million were women 25-54).
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I thought Tyler would get a larger portion of the gay male audience…
so LisaRaye is gonna play a stripper in a movie called LAPDANCE
with Stacy Dash 
Tika Sumpter would make me pull everything out of my sexual trick bag. That hoe fine. I’m beatin it up, tossin salad… the works.
Couldn’t be my woman tho.
Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
@NAIJA
“so LisaRaye is gonna play a stripper in a movie called LAPDANCE with Stacy Dash
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They musta really pizzed off their agents!
Agent 1>>
<> 
<<Lisa Raye
@OTB
“Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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She too old.
Tika Sumpter would make me pull everything out of my sexual trick bag. That hoe fine. I’m beatin it up, tossin salad… the works.
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What else?
Sucking toes?
Two in the Pink, One in the Stink?
Recipient of tossin salad?
Nipple clamps? Both?
Tell me more
Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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last time he said she looked like a man…progress? Man on his Strohm Thurman steez
That hoe fine. I’m beatin it up, tossin salad… the works.
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Naija whas..wrong..w..
what’s the prob? Lnaooooo.
Btw I was like imma kill them..meaning yall. I watched kimberly Elise in that dance show? And she is the mom, a FORMER, cheer dance gal. Ihollered. Maybe Diamond is retired in this lapdance fiasco.
Two in the Pink, One in the Stink?
Recipient of tossin salad?
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@V DOT
“Tika Sumpter would make me pull everything out of my sexual trick bag. That hoe fine. I’m beatin it up, tossin salad… the works.
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What else?
Sucking toes?
Two in the Pink, One in the Stink?
Recipient of tossin salad?
Nipple clamps? Both?
Tell me more
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Yeah, I’d suck some toes!
I like to slide that finger up the poop chute while she riding me.
Give her that spanking she know she want.
Oh yeah… she would get it. I loved her since she was in that video with dark skinned Maxwell dude.
i havent watched but i’m gonna give it a shot
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my cuz aint SHAT. the ninja got a on/off again marriage, but has lately been staying at home with the wife & kids of which the have 5. well today was one of the babies graduation. why he brang the yt outside bitch to the graduation??
i am SO MAD at him for that. just showed up with the bitch. got the chirren all upset. now they don’t wanna come to the fam reunion next week. kinda fck ninja does that?? UGGGGGH
The set was cheap (as most of Tyler’s sets are). It was just a big ole soap opera and I don’t see what the issue is. It wasn’t as awful as the critics are trying to make it out to be. I’m not fond of the cameras that Tyler uses on most of his films or the angles, but on a scale from 1-10, I give the show a 6. I’ll watch it again.
Love They Neighbors….now, that young woman they have playing the old woman is something else….now that’s bad acting.
@NAIJA GIRL
“Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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last time he said she looked like a man…progress? Man on his Strohm Thurman steez
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I ain’t say that bout Tika tho…
Not that I recall. I don’t know what all she did other than that video from years ago. 
*sucks teeth* gtfoh!
two steps forward, several back ass nigga. @Man. Good day I say. *in Naijas voice*
Couldn’t be my woman tho.
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Y you gon’ do all that, but not make her yours?
I like to slide that finger up the poop chute while she riding me
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*giggles like a school girl*
that kinda shat REALLY makes me appreciate the kind of man i have. bc i might go to jail on some shat like that. anyway
gm to those that fux wit me!
kimberly Elise
won’t let her be great….she always looks like the dogs are chasing her
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them slave eyes
Aint that bout a b @Fay. I’m shamed for yall. So he leaving, HAS LEFT, the wife, yes?
And why pray tell would she go?
coulda got figured foured by them kids. 
@SAN
“Couldn’t be my woman tho.
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Y you gon’ do all that, but not make her yours?
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She too old to be “main bytch” status.
She could be “#1 jump off” tho!
I liked that lil show with kimberly elise in it. But the captain of the cheer squad can go somewhere and hop off a bridge though.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@OTB
“Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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She too old.
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How old are you Man?? Do you like’em young *Chris Hansen’s voice*
@VDOT
“I like to slide that finger up the poop chute while she riding me
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*giggles like a school girl*
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How old is Tika?? I mean she looks to be 29???
them slave eyes won’t let her be great….she always looks like the dogs are chasing her
Don’t she look just like her aunt
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OTB
the wife told him ass to come get his chit TODAY. & my sentiments were that yes, that was his way of announcing he aint want her no mo bc how the FCK u expect someone to put up with that. & the yt hoe up there smirking & smiling at the wife. this is not their 1st run in & she likes to taunt the wife. like ha bitch i got yo man!
i wanna bodily harm her FOR the wife.
Goat he must like them young cause I don’t think she’s in her mid thirties…even then she’s still not that old. he must like them fresh off the graduation podium at the local high school.
Fayla
Naija sheddup
What it dew VDot?!
How old is Tika?? I mean she looks to be 29???
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32 about to be 33
@GOAT
““Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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She too old.
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How old are you Man?? Do you like’em young *Chris Hansen’s voice*
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I’m 30. I like em young and fresh!
And legal! (mostly) LOL.
I’ve been besties with this girl for 15 plus years…she has been married for 10 years…I’ve been sleeping with her husband behind her back for almost 9 years…We have a son & daughter together…They’re 7 & 3…She knows nothing about this she thinks I got pregnant by one night stands…Her husband sees his kids regularly, pays child support, and pays my rent & utilities…She is my kids godmother and her kids come over to have play dates…Her husband got divorce papers and is waiting to file them, he wants to be here with me & the kids…My question is how should we tell her? Should I because I known her first? Should he because they’re married? Or should we’ll just it down and…
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^^^this was on tweeter yesterday (shoutout to YSO)…I typed all this chit out so yall give me your thoughts
Tika’s 32 soon to be 33.
Beta to the max! how goes it?
Don’t she look just like her aunt
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Cicely had to have given her up for adoption or something
Tika’s 32 soon to be 33.
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So is 17 old enough to fugg Man
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@GOAT
““Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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She too old.
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How old are you Man?? Do you like’em young *Chris Hansen’s voice*
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I’m 30. I like em young and fresh!
And legal! (mostly) LOL.
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Oh ok… I’ll let you slide then. I thought you was older than 30, maybe it’s because of those old man looking ass Gravi’s you be putting up..lol
NaijaGal says:
I’ve been besties with this girl for 15 plus years…she has been married for 10 years…I’ve been sleeping with her husband behind her back for almost 9 years…We have a son & daughter together…They’re 7 & 3…She knows nothing about this she thinks I got pregnant by one night stands…Her husband sees his kids regularly, pays child support, and pays my rent & utilities…She is my kids godmother and her kids come over to have play dates…Her husband got divorce papers and is waiting to file them, he wants to be here with me & the kids…My question is how should we tell her? Should I because I known her first? Should he because they’re married? Or should we’ll just it down and…
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^^^this was on tweeter yesterday (shoutout to YSO)…I typed all this chit out so yall give me your thoughts
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She ain’t no friend for one.. two, I think they should do it one at a time so the wife can take it all in and so it won’t seem like they’re “attacking” her. I’m sure she’s bound to snap, whether it be right then, or later, I think it should be one at a time. That way she can tag they ass one at a time too
I’ve been besties with this girl for 15 plus years…she has been married for 10 years…I’ve been sleeping with her husband behind her back for almost 9 years…We have a son & daughter together…They’re 7 & 3…She knows nothing about this she thinks I got pregnant by one night stands…Her husband sees his kids regularly, pays child support, and pays my rent & utilities…She is my kids godmother and her kids come over to have play dates…Her husband got divorce papers and is waiting to file them, he wants to be here with me & the kids…My question is how should we tell her? Should I because I known her first? Should he because they’re married? Or should we’ll just it down and…
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So is dude going to switch it up and marry the side chick?? Sounds like the perfect setting for a polyamorous r/ship to me. The wife may be ok with sharing and everyone is happy.
Chit, if he payin all them bills and the wife ain’t know she prolly got a boo of her own somewhere.
NaijaGal says:
I’ve been besties with this girl for 15 plus years…she has been married for 10 years…I’ve been sleeping with her husband behind her back for almost 9 years…We have a son & daughter together…They’re 7 & 3…She knows nothing about this she thinks I got pregnant by one night stands…Her husband sees his kids regularly, pays child support, and pays my rent & utilities…She is my kids godmother and her kids come over to have play dates…Her husband got divorce papers and is waiting to file them, he wants to be here with me & the kids…My question is how should we tell her? Should I because I known her first? Should he because they’re married? Or should we’ll just it down and…
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^^^this was on tweeter yesterday (shoutout to YSO)…I typed all this chit out so yall give me your thoughts
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Simple my ass would be in jail and that’s real talk
goat76 says:
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@GOAT
““Why not? @Man. She aint that..tall..
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She too old.
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How old are you Man?? Do you like’em young *Chris Hansen’s voice*
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I’m 30. I like em young and fresh!
see #39 
And legal! (mostly) LOL.
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Oh ok… I’ll let you slide then. I thought you was older than 30, maybe it’s because of those old man looking ass Gravi’s you be putting up..lol——–
^^^this was on tweeter yesterday (shoutout to YSO)…I typed all this chit out so yall give me your thoughts
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That’s some foul shat, on both of their parts. They should at least leave the state if not the Country.
Tika’s 32 soon to be 33.
wow. she looks great!
Jen-nayyyy!
gm love!
@BETA
“So is 17 old enough to fugg Man ”
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Nah. Not usually…
@GOAT
“Oh ok… I’ll let you slide then. I thought you was older than 30, maybe it’s because of those old man looking ass Gravi’s you be putting up..lol——–
Pictures never do me justice mayne!
CRISPY CHICKEN FRESH LETTUCE RANCH DRESSING THREE CHEESES WRAPPED UP IN A TASTEY FLOWUH TORTILLA!
NaijaGal says:
I’ve been besties with this girl for 15 plus years…she has been married for 10 years…I’ve been sleeping with her husband behind her back for almost 9 years…We have a son & daughter together…They’re 7 & 3…She knows nothing about this she thinks I got pregnant by one night stands…Her husband sees his kids regularly, pays child support, and pays my rent & utilities…She is my kids godmother and her kids come over to have play dates…Her husband got divorce papers and is waiting to file them, he wants to be here with me & the kids…My question is how should we tell her? Should I because I known her first? Should he because they’re married? Or should we’ll just it down and…
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^^^this was on tweeter yesterday (shoutout to YSO)…I typed all this chit out so yall give me your thoughts
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First off, do these kids not look alike?
Man & V.
SHe should’ve had her cousin/girls pay ole girl a visit two days ago 
You wanna smile hoe, here take this 
two to each eye! 
#yourcousingotmemad
#justtoomuch
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Naija, somebody is gonna die with all that nonsense
Pictures never do me justice mayne!
NaijaGal says:
I’ve been besties with this girl for 15 plus years…she has been married for 10 years…I’ve been sleeping with her husband behind her back for almost 9 years…We have a son & daughter together…They’re 7 & 3…She knows nothing about this she thinks I got pregnant by one night stands…Her husband sees his kids regularly, pays child support, and pays my rent & utilities…She is my kids godmother and her kids come over to have play dates…Her husband got divorce papers and is waiting to file them, he wants to be here with me & the kids…My question is how should we tell her? Should I because I known her first? Should he because they’re married? Or should we’ll just it down and…
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^^^this was on tweeter yesterday (shoutout to YSO)…I typed all this chit out so yall give me your thoughts
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Oh and Imma give TP’s show some time….the acting is a lot better than “For Better or Worse” or whatever that show’s name is….
@ Naija – Those kids may end up orphans
That’s some foul shat, on both of their parts. They should at least leave the state if not the Country.
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Right, if she ain’t willing to be a sister wife, then they best get gone
Sucks that kids are involved… How she ain’t see her husband genes in her “friend’s” kids though?
Oh well… guess it don’t matter no more now!
That’s some foul shat, on both of their parts. They should at least leave the state if not the Country.
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I think they both should bleed for sure but then she has kids and can’t go to jail…some real fcuked up chit for sure
Fay Fay and DTS
@DTS
It’s true. I wish they would improve camera technology a little bit more. I always come out looking a little off or not quite right. Even my friends and stuff say that I look a lot better in person than in pictures.
CRISPY CHICKEN FRESH LETTUCE RANCH DRESSING THREE CHEESES WRAPPED UP IN A TASTEY FLOWUH TORTILLA!
Is this from home? Im hungry as he.ll and need lunch ideas.
How she ain’t see her husband genes in her “friend’s” kids though?
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this was my thought too…like don’t you see your husband in those kids…but then ole girl is fcuking hoe so the kids might not be his at all
Jennyyyyyyyyyyy
I just ate like 3hrs ago… I’m hungry as hail nah
VDot- It’s from when Mary J. was coonin’ on the BK commercial.
FAY FAY
Jenie :hugs:
DTTS :hugs:
Goat :hugs:
DTTS!
i am too! & it’s gone cause me to give him SERIOUS side-eye bc u just dont DEW no shat like that! 
TF is WRONG with ppl??
How do she, the other fake friend, deal with knowing her baby daddy that wants to be with her.. but ISN’T. How she feel. That woman, his wife! sleeping with him still.
These good for nothing ass bishes make my stomach hurt!
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@DTS
It’s true. I wish they would improve camera technology a little bit more. I always come out looking a little off or not quite right. Even my friends and stuff say that I look a lot better in person than in pictures.
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If’n you mess with folks “livelihood” you best expect to get killed nowadays IMB
The wife may get away with murder
NaijaGal says:
How she ain’t see her husband genes in her “friend’s” kids though?
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this was my thought too…like don’t you see your husband in those kids…but then ole girl is fcuking hoe so the kids might not be his at all
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They can’t be his. A mans genes are strong. The minute my husband met my kids, he knew who their father was.
VDot- It’s from when Mary J. was coonin’ on the BK commercial.
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Well I guess BK for lunch then.
@ANNA
“The minute my husband met my kids, he knew who their father was.”
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This sentence sounds all kinds of wrong!
BOMB!!
how are the 3 lovelies today? :rubsbelly: :singsalullaby:
They can’t be his. A mans genes are strong. The minute my husband met my kids, he knew who their father was.
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:stop: Explain Michael Jackson’s kids
These good for nothing ass bishes make my stomach hurt!
Desperados, as I like to call them. AIn’t no good gonna come from this ish
Stupid tramps settle for real bullshatt, and now she’s talmbout “how should we tell her” bish please, that’s the least of your worries, you need to be worried about:
Where you gonna live?
but don’t get fat! Eat healthy and just enough to feed them babies, they DO NOT eat whole meals yet 
<–your write up that's waiting on you (should you keep it up) 
Whatchu gonna do each and every time I (or my representative) sees you in the street?
Where you gonna run to?
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Esq,
They can’t be his. A mans genes are strong
Explain how my bros looking like my mama bros
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NaijaGal says:
How she ain’t see her husband genes in her “friend’s” kids though?
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this was my thought too…like don’t you see your husband in those kids…but then ole girl is fcuking hoe so the kids might not be his at all
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you’re very right. Her thinking about her own pleasures got her in this fugged up situation. She very well may have been the type to get pregnant off of an actual one nighter.
Fay, that ish got me hurting for her, YOU’ON DO THAT! Just leave sucka! Miss the graduation, you don’t disrespect your family (you included) and mess up a memorable occasion!!!
<–him and that bish!
That’s some foul shat, on both of their parts. They should at least leave the state if not the Country.
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Right, if she ain’t willing to be a sister wife, then they best get gone
Sucks that kids are involved… How she ain’t see her husband genes in her “friend’s” kids though?
Oh well… guess it don’t matter no more now!
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LOL…. this shat so messy, I don’t even feel like thinking about the different scenarios. Too much Pure Fcukery going on here. Best advice I could give is get as far away as you can from these muthafcukas.
Esq, but don’t get fat! Eat healthy and just enough to feed them babies, they DO NOT eat whole meals yet <–your write up that's waiting on you (should you keep it up)
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They can’t be his. A mans genes are strong. The minute my husband met my kids, he knew who their father was.
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the minute mr razz laid eyes on lil razz and saw that thick ass long black hair he knew he was his (not that I gave him any reason to doubt
BUT explain why my dad’s oldest son looks NOTHING like him and does NOT have his heighth blessings?
Ok, Approved!
Esq
And not alot of salt!
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@DTS
It’s true. I wish they would improve camera technology a little bit more. I always come out looking a little off or not quite right. Even my friends and stuff say that I look a lot better in person than in pictures.
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Boris, you trying to get me wrote up/fired…..
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@ANNA
“The minute my husband met my kids, he knew who their father was.”
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This sentence sounds all kinds of wrong!
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@Man, after I hit submit, I was
Best advice I could give is get as far away as you can from these muthafcukas.
That’s the BEST SOLUTION. Hell, send her this post, let her see it here, I them mofos don’t need the satisfaction of “telling her” ish!!!!!!!!
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I’on eat junk food at all… furthest I go is a bag of Doritos every now and then… I’m eating Craisins rhat nah…
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My Achilles’ Heel was a family sized bag of Dill Pickle Chips or Salt n Vinegar Chips, spear dill pickles and mustard to dip, MCD’s Vanilla Ice Coffee, and Dr. Pepper.
Being pregnant was so much fun when you could eat whatever.. (I still exercised)
Boris
Razzle
They can’t be his. A mans genes are strong. The minute my husband met my kids, he knew who their father was.
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the minute mr razz laid eyes on lil razz and saw that thick ass long black hair he knew he was his (not that I gave him any reason to doubt )
BUT explain why my dad’s oldest son looks NOTHING like him and does NOT have his heighth blessings?
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The took the wrong baby home from the hospital????
<–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says:
Ok, Approved!
And not alot of salt! Esq
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mangos with salt
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blasphemy
NaijaGal says:
I have it recorded…haven’t watched yet…I keep reading that it’s like a soap opera…then what’s the problem…young and the restless been kicking strong for decades
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Me too Naija I will proabaly watch it this weekend. If its anything like Y&R I will be hooked
Afternoon Roses
I watched it, I will not watch again- if I want to watch The Help again I will rent it!
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
I thought Tyler would get a larger portion of the gay male audience…
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I doubt any group that is less than 4% of the entire population can affect a show’s television ratings.
FayMrsWhipfinityIfYewNassy
says:
OTB
the wife told him ass to come get his chit TODAY. & my sentiments were that yes, that was his way of announcing he aint want her no mo bc how the FCK u expect someone to put up with that. & the yt hoe up there smirking & smiling at the wife. this is not their 1st run in & she likes to taunt the wife. like ha bitch i got yo man!
i wanna bodily harm her FOR the wife.
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That mistress is stupid thinking she “won”. A man who marries his mistress has just opened up the role for a new woman. How she gets him is how she will loose him.
@SANDRA
“I thought Tyler would get a larger portion of the gay male audience…
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I doubt any group that is less than 4% of the entire population can affect a show’s television ratings.
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…then why they got so much clout and they own channel then?
I’m not a TP much less an OW fan, but I wish them well in their collaborative endeavors.
From Tyler Perry to his fans (yes I ama fan lol):
Hey guys,
I won’t make this too long ’cause I know you have things to do :-). On behalf of all these actors who are getting their first real break, on behalf of the entire crew at TPS, on behalf of OWN, Oprah and myself…
God bless you for what you have done for all of us. We had another record-breaking night last night with the premiere of Love Thy Neighbor.
This could have only happened with you all watching. Thank you.
See you on OWN next Tuesday and Wednesday. Same time, same place. The Haves And The Have Nots is going to blow you away next Tuesday. And of course, we will be laughing all night next Wednesday with Love Thy Neighbor.
And listen, for all those who you know that haven’t seen these shows… fill ’em in would you?
Gotta tell ’em what they’re missing.
Thank you all. My prayer for you is that many people sow into your dreams as you have sown into mine.
Be well and God bless,
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Ha! “Love Thy Neighbor” was a hot ass mess!! The mother/grandmother was this shrill/shreiking shrew, totally unlikeable. The daughter, grandson and the rest of the cast was totally unforgettable. I have not see “Haves/Have nots” but I am not holding my breath expecting greatness
The cast was ^^^ FORGETTABLE is what I meant! Show was dumb!!
I watched it with my “Tyler Perry filter” on. I enjoyed it.
Have n Have Nots, that is. I do not plan to watch that other mess.
Lodak says:
Have n Have Nots, that is. I do not plan to watch that other mess.
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Thanks for the clarification because that other one was a hot mess!! Too bad because we need some quality shows featuring “our” people. I went in with low expectations and this was even lower than that!!
them slave eyes won’t let her be great….she always looks like the dogs are chasing her
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I knew it. And folk on twitter kept saying it was so good and they’re hooked, all while @tylerperry/@oprahwinfrey. I’m sure neither of them responded…perhaps here/there.
Tyler has to know his writing is remedial. Ironically, his formula is the down and out mom who has religion to get her through it all and eventually a man who will rescue her. I’m no fan and it’s no secret amongst my friends. Do I give him credit for what he has accomplished? Absolutely. Will I pretend his movies and projects are interesting or well scripted? No effin way. Women love Tyler Perry, so they support him. I can’t knock that, but that’s what carries his projects to the top. His writing has nothing to do with it.