The world media was in an uproar after Pope Francis declared “hell does not exist”. Frantic Catholics took to Twitter.com in hopes of finding an explanation for the Pope’s statement. Many asked, “If hell doesn’t exist, why did Christ die on the cross for our sins?”
The furor started when Eugenio Scalfari, 93, an atheist journalist, claimed the Pope told him there was no hell.
“Souls are not punished,” Francis allegedly told Scalfari. “Those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and go among the ranks of those who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot be forgiven disappear. There is no hell — there is the disappearance of sinful souls.”
The news spread around the world like wildfire. Link aggregator website Drudgereport.com screamed “POPE DECLARES NO HELL?” in huge bold red font.
The New Yorker magazine thought it was “beyond ironic” that the Pope had any atheist friends at all.
Catholic philosopher Peter Kreeft, told the Boston Globe, “If there’s no hell, then heaven is no big deal.”
Journalist Tara Isabella Burton wrote, “If the Pope indeed said those words, the consequences would be catastrophic for the Catholic Church.”
And conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh accused the left-leaning Pope of “corrupting the Catholic Church”.
After a delay that some Catholics said was uncomfortably long, the Vatican finally issued a response — telling Catholics not to trust Scalfari’s report.
The Vatican reassured believers that Pope Francis does indeed believe in hell and that “no quotation of the article should be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”
The New York Times informed readers that Scalfari rarely makes notes or uses a tape recorder during interviews.
In a Catholic Herald article titled “Why on earth does Pope Francis still trust Eugenio Scalfari?”, journalist Christopher Altieri suggested the Pope should resign from office “and go talk with his friend all day over vino burino and biscola”.
The bottom line is the Pope is just a man who is not without fault.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church unequivocally affirms the existence of hell and the immortality of the human soul.
“Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where ‘men will weep and gnash their teeth’(1036).”
Well what if there is no hell would you live your life any different or would you be free to live your life the way you want too !!!!
He probably was sipping on communion wine at the time
Really and truly no one, that we know of, has gone to hell or heaven and came back and told us about it. We are all walking in faith. I think people should just go forth and spread love and positivety each and every day….just live a good life. Help your neighbors…just fawking spread love. Just live righteous and once you die, at that time, you will find out if there’s a heaven or hell.
Religion has ruined so many generations…I live a spiritual life…I’m not religious. I don’t go by what these Colonizers have been telling black people to worship for hundreds and hundreds of years.
For me, it’s no big deal. Hell can be right here on earth depending on how you live your life….
I live a spiritual life…I’m not religious. I don’t go by what these Colonizers have been telling black people to worship for hundreds and hundreds of years
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Agree one hundred percent!!!!!
yeah it do, it’s right here in Trumpland.
Seriously, though, I thought everyone knew that the fairytales of the bible were just fairytales. Heaven or Hell is all about the karma that hits you according to how you and your ancestors/elders live/lived.
spirit of confusion..
hell is 100% real..
Im not Catholic so he can feel like he feels on it. Much respect to the Pope though.
But he’s right tho!!!! Hell only exists in your mind. No such thing. The concept is fear based.
Prove to me that is ISNT and also prove to me that it IS……………BC I know folks who live in hell every day….sooooooo
How would he know if he never died. Religion is crazy!
Yasssss
*church finger up out this joint*
I’m slidin right on off this post….*deuces*
God warned us about false prophets and the POPE is one of them. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the devils advocate in disguise!!! Smfh!!! I guess there’s no such thing as demons the devil or evil rt???? ????that’s why I don’t believe in any religion! My religion is LOVE!!! I praise God and believe in the Lord Jesus!! My church is at home and with my family we all praise God!!!
I think people should just go forth and spread love and positivety each and every day….just live a good life. Help your neighbors…just fawking spread love
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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!
*holds the door open for you* didn’t want it to slam behind me. LOL
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who is he anyway? I don’t get it https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ef12b51db9d80cb3921f067fbdb87e1bb2bd9ebe3df2611bc6342b3869872a5.gif
Religion is a touchy subject…I come here to gossip and crack jokes so umm…y’all have at it ?
*sticks my head in for a sec*
I watched a movie starring Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding, which was ironically about Robin’s (character) wife committing suicide. What Dreams May Come (don’t hold me to that title) I think is the name. Anywho, there was a statement made in there that has forever stuck with me. It said something like “Hell, isn’t a place. Hell is about the decisions you made in life.” OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. It put something on my mind.
Just curious…are the entire Bible’s concepts fear based? Or just parts of it? (Just asking a legit question).
I believe Pope Francis is both a false prophet and a socialist. Why Catholics continue to follow him blindly is beyond me.
This pope has said a lot of crazy things that are considered blasphemy of the very God he claims to follow.?
“You will know them by their fruit.”
Book of revelation
Hell is on Earth.
Who’s getting down with the ancestors?
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Man they found Timothy!!!! In the Chattahoochee I suspect foul play…NONE of this sounds right!
It gets the peepa going on here.
Remind me who that is? That’s not the name of the cdc worker is it?
Yes. *sads*
That’s the first time I read that and thought about people’s fruit being their children.
Dang, for real. I really didnt expect him to be found alive smh. So sad
Unfortunately, yes! SMH
Thank Jesus.
Pray for the 3 missing black children to be found. I pray they jumped out of the car or fought their “moms” and ran away.
Sometimes I be soooo ready for the world to end already …. other times I hope to do a little more traveling … live in a house with a mega garden in the back .. maybe even get married and do nothing but spend his money and have orgasms…. before the world ends. Lol
Anyway, he’s only saying hell doesn’t exist because deep down inside he knows his dog ass is on the first train smoking to hell for all of the nasty, EVIL, vile sh*t he does behind closed doors.
+1
LIES.
Why so much fury?? Listen, the word tells you not to trust what man says only what the bible says so even if he or anyone says something not of God it doesn’t change anything. Hide the word in your heart so when foolish flutter occurs you can stand on something…next.
Fruits and seeds.
Nuts and berries.
EXACTLY
Lord have mercy we’ll something in the milk sure ain’t clean idc what they say !!! No I wonder if they have been investigating this the whole time as possible foul play I hope so. I know sometimes they will release misleading information to the public to throw off the suspect
The Vatican and the Pope, why does the Pope get secret service detail when he visits America?
This level of Importance because ?
With thousands of confirmed pedo priest? What kind of Organnization is this that we and the world support it
How did the Vatican become a Nation State, with Embassies and priest with diplomatic immunity
Consider the source before you give credence to this ancient group of cretinous undesirables.
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True but if there are higher powers behind this we will probably never know…
umm…. Carlton Pearson said this years ago…
(and was promptly ‘ex-communicated’) ROFL!!!!!!!
STOP! LMAOOO
Pope Francis is really progressive and I actually really like him even though I don’t ascribe to any denomination. I’m sure he didn’t say this though *fake news*
Please read his quote. He didn’t say there is no hell. He implied it. We inferred it.
Boy that pope is a wildcard! I like it!
So there is no hell people. Does that mean there are no repercussions for the terrible things done on this Earth. To think that Hitler and Manson just fizzled out. He talks more about politics and global warming than the church and religion. That CC is presently going through an internal war and he’s become personal non grata.
just saw it on msn, smh…. sounds like they’re trying to do damage control
Reported Priests raping will quadruple.
i love your vision, LOL!!!!!!!!!
as for Bro. Pope, those Vatican figures certainly do know all about evil and vile matters of this world…. that is definitely NOT a “holy” place…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d465041cfaadc9080119da3ebc9e8e678679d3b3b44dc4f5fce24974c1de281.gif
Where is the direct quote? Because what I read is that someone he spoke with said this is what he said, and the Vatican refuted this account. I work for a Catholic organization so have learned a lot about catholic (little “c”) teachings which should not be confused with Catholic religious beliefs and practices.
I know there is a hell and the devil is real. Seems we are already living in hell as I cannot imagine anything can be worse than now with Dump and all the violence and depravity in the world, smh.
gosh i laughed inappropriately at this… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5406a067d89d1924f4f9967857b7ca15a701e44524df7514659efb170810c224.gif
There Is no way that man just left work and went home to leave all his personal belongings just to go jump in a river to die….Id like to see how this play out.
girl, it’s a damn shame.
It’s older movie, but I saw Spotlight about a month ago. It’s was just horrible.
But guess what they not going to hell. SMDH
Hell is on Earth NOW! Because if you believe what Jesus says when he says “the Kingdom of heaven is near” you have to believe that Hell isn’t that far away or some abstract concept just pertaining to our souls.
I’m hoping they weren’t even in the car and maybe got away but who knows!! Lawd that story is so sad on so many levels along with Bella Edwards in NY!
I’m there with you. I am so ready that I spent a whole year thinking I was actually a year older than I was LOL! My daughter said everybody else is trying to be younger and you’re pushing your age up LOL. I was like “I’m ready to go home and be with the Lord LOL!”
No Hell?! Well what happened to all the people I told to go there????
I tried to catch my laugh. It happened so fast though.
The concept of hell in the afterlife just doesn’t make sense. Why would the creator of all life allow the souls he created to burn for eternity? For what? There is no purpose and no lesson to be learned from that, especially if there is no rehabilitation from hell. It would make more sense for those souls to cease to exist. Hell exists right here on Earth and you don’t have to wait for death to see it.
Of course they will deny what he said. It wasn’t recorded, no notes taken, so it cannot be true or real, but what you said, you keep repeating that to yourself.
Just like you believe what you believe – keep repeating that to yourself. Apparently no body else can back up this claim – and I don’t believe a word in the alt right Drudge Report. Funny no other mainstream media is reporting this accounting of alternative facts.
Have a great day!
Yes, it’s been reported all over the world but the US media won’t report it. Which is why you are ill informed, your media tells you only what they want you to know and they control the flow of information. Why do you think they want to shut Drudge down, lol. A certain former president said if he could do it, he would eliminate all alternative media and only have CNN to feed your feeble mind. Read about your Francis before you defend him so heartedly. Many Real Catholics are not pleased. Sorry the truth hurts.
Go away!!! ???
And if it was up to Trump, there would only be Fox News, so stop. I’m not ill informed because I don’t agree with you. I now recall you are a troll that resorts to personal attacks when you can’t defend your position from your narrow minded perspective.
And by the way, I’m not Catholic either. “Real Catholics” as you state seem to have a problem with Pope Francis because he doesn’t want to maintain the status quo. That’s my opinion though.
This has ZERO to do with Trump. You brought him into the discussion so you earned the critique. I know he lives in your head rent free but give it a rest for a minute and focus on what the article is about. This is about Francis and his historical double takes on issues and his fights against accepted Catholic dogma or other accepted religious values. He wants to change how the church’s views on marriage and homosexuality and being that he is a progressive of liberal persuasion you know (at least I hope you do) where he is going with that. People who believe in God and all that goes with that don’t go through him, thank God. I don’t come here to troll or follow the flow. You don’t like my opinion, move on. I think you are either misguided or haven’t read on this so we both agree to disagree.
Right ! I’m only 29, but I’m so damn disgusted with the world that I’m just like eff it …. when is Yahshuah gonna return and take those who belong with him out of this hell hole ? Lol
“A certain former president said if he could do it, he would eliminate all alternative media and only have CNN to feed your feeble mind.”
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And zero of anything has to do with “a certain former presIdent.”
And you commented on MY post.
How are you telling me to move on LOL!
Go. Away. Troll.
I brought up that reference ONLY because you brought up CNN and Trump first. Did you expect me to ignore your digression to topics not related to the discussion. It’s not my fault you refuse to follow the bouncing ball and present a solid analysis of your positing. You must be 12.
I said “mainstream media” – reading is fundamental. YOU ASSumed CNN. I’m not a cable news kind of gal. And using words like “posit” and “analysis” doesn’t make you any less of a narrow minded troll, but you are amusing me today, so there is that.
Not 12, which again is your juvenile way of trying to insult someone LOL! I have probably been out of undergrad longer than you’ve been on this earth.
so much for “don’t shoot the messenger” …i believe someone wanted to silence this man and his ‘message’ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d465041cfaadc9080119da3ebc9e8e678679d3b3b44dc4f5fce24974c1de281.gif
spotlight? is it on netflix?
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb4264f7d4d7227830d50436ebc02fe52f854ab6633bc6dbb91c04c30c8efcd0.gif
Re read your post. And leave me alone peasant.
“Funny no other mainstream media is reporting this accounting of alternative facts.”
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That’s my quote. So maybe you should re-read it. You’re free to stop responding on MY post at any time. Child.
Please I’m at work!!
God tell’s us this is all the hell we shall endure, however original sin deems us to figure out throughout life where we will go upon the after life. I do believe their is a final damnation for those of us that choose not to repent our sins and ignore God’s will. I also understand your point of view as well.
I wish I could up vote this ??100times!!!! We are in hell.
I agree. I feel like if Jesus/God never gives up on you in this life, why would they give up on you in the next one? So logically and within my understanding of God and Jesus, a soul damned to eternal hell doesn’t make sense. But I do totally believe in “hell on earth” and right now, it just seems we’re there.
LOL don’t be out here telling the truth now Francis. They ain’t ready for all’lat.
That emoji is hilarious!!!
According to my reading, there is punishment for the wicked. Now what that entails, I’m not sure. The church has done a good job of making The Most High out to be this passive grandfatherly type. Not so.
I can reason and try to get around what He has declared all day. He said what He said and He’s going to do what He’s going to do – no matter what I think or feel. Mankind doesn’t get it. HE’S GOD, NOT US. Until we can weigh the flames of fire or measure the wind – we need not question His ways.
Anyway, he’s only saying hell doesn’t exist because deep down inside he knows his dog ass is on the first train smoking to hell for all of the nasty, EVIL, vile sh*t he does behind closed doors.
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You let loose, didntcha????
I believe he said it and the Vatican is backtracking for him.
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“…..deep down inside he knows his dog a$$ is on the first train smoking to h?ll.”
Yup.???
it IS! my fav from the old garden ?
Dante was wrong about the 9 circles of hell?
I was hoping for a 10th for the kardashians.
Blasphemy
Oops. Hahahaha. Sorry
The Vatican is one of the evilest places on earth. The pope is a beast of revelation. The Vatican requires you to pray thru a saint to talk to God, you can pray to God directly. No need for idol worship, no thanks pope.. You can keep your blasphemous crap. Look up the ark of Gabriel they found in Mecca in 2015, thousands died, then all of a sudden Pope F, Kirill, Putin, and Obama all met up in Antartica. Straight evil, Hitler and his people fled to Antartica disguised as a catholic priests. Things that make you go hmmmm….
They are definitely an evil bunch, always have been.
Study a lie and they make new lies up, study the truth and you know when a lie comes! -Bizzle
I agree with your assessment but doesn’t that also mean that the Bible is either allegorical or fiction when it comes to the concept of hell? There’s so many different ways to interpret the Bible and it’s impossible in my opinion to know which way is right or wrong. Praying for guidance obviously doesn’t work because different people all pray for guidance but end up with conflicting understandings of the same verses of the Bible. I’ve basically come to the conclusion that all forms of religion (Biblical and non-Biblical) have varying levels of truth to them but no one really has all of the answers. We have no choice but to wait and see.
One of my favorite novels
Lol
Here’s my lingering question. If all sins are the same, all a sinner or murderer has to do is repent and receive grace, forgiveness and go to heaven – why can’t we all just run rampant in sin? Folks live their whole lives doing evil and get a break while do gooders live in sufferance at the hand of evildoers. IJA…
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because you dont understand the definition of repentance, my friend. it means to turn away from/forsake/stop sinning. when a believer/follower of Christ understands something is sinful and against GODs will, they are to repent and glorify GOD. Jesus said His family are those who hear the word of God, and do it. John 15 says all those who abide in Jesus’s love will be saved and all those who do not will be cut off and thrown into the fire. Jesus said of someone is to be His disciple, they must cut off whomever and whatever, including their own lives, and come after Him or they are not worthy of Him. you can google each of these scriptures as ive kind of got them down verbatim. there is no sin all you want and say sorry later. even with that choosing to worship Jesus later experience, plenty of people in hell would advise against gambling with time and opportunity to repent now, today, right now as their deaths were very untimely and they will never have another opportunity to do so. cant play with GOD. you only play yourself.
hes said similar heresies so i believe it.
its not that you dont understand it. its that you 1st reject The Creator. thats why you dont respect Him or feel subservient to Him and dont bow down and worship Him (Romans 1). 2nd, you have therefore chosen to also reject GODs decree that the wages of sin is DEATH. YOU have decided its a slap on the wrist, a butt whooping, a little suffering, some hurt feelings, maybe a time-out.
however, if somebody tells you if you dare touch it, youre going to die, youre simply one of the many people who have to test the threat to see if its true, if they are going to back that claim up. youre counting on something else of your own imaginings happening meanwhile that very thing you are going to touch is a ticking time bomb itself, motion activiated. you were warned and informed and you just choose not to listen.
thats whats going on with hell. the lake of fire is already created for satan and the rogue angels, just waiting and ready. meanwhile, all these humans, also created by GOD as free-thinking, free-willed beings, also choose to worship Him or rebel against Him. those who appreciate His goodness and honor Him will be with Him in His kingdom. those who dont appreciate His goodness will reap His severeness in the lake of fire that burns forever, where the fire is never quenched and their worm never dies says Jesus…
Thank you for this thoughtful eloquent response that was void of negativity, hate and shame. All of what you’re saying is true. However my underlying question remains.
SAY THAT!!!
LOL