World Changers shooter committed to mental hospital for shooting another man in 2001

Greg McDowell reportedly saw his killer approach before he was gunned down as he led Bible study at Creflo Dollar’s World Changers church in College Park on Wednesday. McDowell, 39, was pronounced dead at South Fulton hospital following the 10:30 a.m. shooting. The suspected shooter, Floyd Palmer, 59, was taken into custody hours later outside Macy’s at Lenox Square Mall in Buckhead, north of Atlanta.

Court records obtained by WSB-TV reveal the former World Changers employee was committed to a mental hospital in Baltimore, Maryland in 2001 after pleading not criminally responsible for shooting another man.

A witness told WSB-TV that Palmer followed the unidentified man outside and shot him for no apparent reason.

Court records show Palmer was released from the mental hospital a year later with unspecified 5 year conditions. The 2001 victim is paralyzed, according to a family member.

Palmer was divorced from the now deceased mother of his two grown daughters. He lived alone in a sparsely furnished College Park apartment. Police say they don’t know why Palmer shot McDowell and they are investigating whether the two men knew each other.

Hours after the shooting, a witness spotted Palmer’s black Subaru station wagon in the Lenox Mall parking lot. Another witness told WSB-TV that Palmer walked into the Starbucks next door to Macy’s and ordered a coffee drink. Palmer reportedly went to Lenox Mall to turn himself in to mall security, but they didn’t know who he was.

Creflo Dollar, who founded World Changers non-denominational church in 1986, was briefed on the shooting at his church Wednesday morning.

“While I was in my morning briefing I got a report that some shots took place over here in the chapel,” Dollar told his congregation during a service Wednesday night. Dollar described McDowell as “One of our very faithful, loving, kind servant, volunteer.

“That’s not God’s will for a husband to be taken away from his wife and family. That’s not God’s will,” Dollar said of the father of two young sons.

Dollar added: God is good, heaven is real and to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord.


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    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      Guns guns and more guns… :coffee:

    • Angiegirl

      Auntie how can u shoot someone and plea not criminally responsible? :thinking: #seriousquestion

      Morning Roses and Thorns :waves:

    • Bad Influence

      nerp.. :no:

    • Daisy

      When I saw the report on his previous history and record I was :mad: and :sad:

      May God comfort all parties involved :pray: I can’t even imagine what is wife and children are going through right now.

      Good Morning

    • San

      O so he been fcked up…ok

    • Daisy

      God is good, heaven is real and to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord.

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      AMEN

    • luVn_liFe…

      :happy: AngieGirl! whatitDO maam!!

    • Miss Bee

      Wonders if Palmers ex wife and Greg had something going on and lunatic didn’t like it. :shrugs:

    • Diva

      Sad Sad and more Sad!!!!!

    • INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST

      SO BASICALLY ALL OF US NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT OUR SAFETY CAUSE MOFOS ARE RANDOMLY SHOOTING FOLKS FOR THE HELL OF IT, NO ARGUMENT, YOU DIDN’T CUT EM OFF ON THE EXPRESSWAY, BASICALLY UNPROVOKED :shrugs: SHIAT IS CRAZY

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      This is sooooooo sad. So…he was released upon an unsuspecting society…only to do it again??!!
      I pray for his family. I hope that mega-minister helps the family out!

      :waves:
      Divurrr
      Milkayyy
      Bad

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      dude on right almost look like Ceelo Greene.

    • Milky

      :hi: Angie WTF!! he should have still been locked up from the first shooting! They really need to do more with the mental health system it’s either null and void in some states or not capable of helping the mentally ill in others….

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      “Palmer was divorced from the now deceased mother of his two grown daughters…”

      I wonder how SHE died? :eek:

    • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=72503781 yanibunny02

      I keep sayin..they need to do a background on folks in the church too..jus cuz they in the church dont mean their good people.. :no:

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      Angiegirl says:

      Auntie how can u shoot someone and plea not criminally responsible? #seriousquestion
      ————————-
      I it possible. If there was no motive leading up to it and he just Kirked out, rolled up to a place he felt wronged him and shot the first thing he saw… its possible.
      Where he shot him was the old chapel where they use to have service before the dome was built. I believe he went there because thats were he use to be important to the church a while back. When he lost it he went back there. He proll looked up and actually saw Pastor Dollar instead of Greg.

    • Diva

      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      SO BASICALLY ALL OF US NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT OUR SAFETY CAUSE MOFOS ARE RANDOMLY SHOOTING FOLKS FOR THE HELL OF IT, NO ARGUMENT, YOU DIDN’T CUT EM OFF ON THE EXPRESSWAY, BASICALLY UNPROVOKED SHIAT IS CRAZY

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      On the DAILY!!!!!!! People don’t give a fucc…many people are just suicidal and don’t care so they will take you out with them

    • Xena68

      Cycle repeats itself

    • Milky

      mzwhang get out of my head i was thinkin the same thing. becuz he is in his fifties she couldnt have been too old!

    • Angiegirl

      LuVn Dahhhhhhhhhhhhhling *Eartha Kit voice* :grill:

      Milky, wut it do guhl :yahoo:

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      just a plain ole nutjob :no:

    • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

      Angiegirl says:

      Auntie how can u shoot someone and plea not criminally responsible?
      ________________

      because he was mentally ill, and still is.

    • Diva

      yanibunny02 says:

      I keep sayin..they need to do a background on folks in the church too..jus cuz they in the church dont mean their good people..

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Exactly….starting with the pulpit! :coffee:

    • Angiegirl

      Jimmy Johns has $1 subs today!!! :danban:

    • NaijaGal

      Angiegirl says:

      Auntie how can u shoot someone and plea not criminally responsible?
      ===============
      insanity

    • Diva

      Angiegirl says:

      Jimmy Johns has $1 subs today!!!

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I’ll pass on that hard azz bread!!! :wave: Hey Angiegirl

    • Angiegirl

      Sandra Rose says:

      Angiegirl says:

      Auntie how can u shoot someone and plea not criminally responsible?
      ________________

      because he was mentally ill, and still is.

      _____________________

      Maybe I watch too many TV shows, but I thought even though u escape real jail for mental illness u spend the time u would have spent in jail in the mental institution…..is that not right? :shrugs:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      MzWhang’s dog decided to channel ms Onika Miraj today I see :tea:

    • Diva

      Bedazzled His Razzle says:

      MzWhang’s dog decided to channel ms Onika Miraj today I see

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :rofl: Whang Minaj

    • Daisy

      I have never eaten at Jimmy Johns

      Mentally Ill people are everywhere both in and outside the church. Alot of churches these days have counseling minstries w/licensed therapist. The Black church has come a LONG way as it relates to promoting mental health treatment.

    • Angiegirl

      @WUT and Naija, that just seem so wrong :no:

      @Diva….
      Bottoms up
      Bottoms up, UP
      hey whats in yuh cup
      :koolaid3:

    • Diva

      Daisy says:

      I have never eaten at Jimmy Johns

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      You ain’t missing much IMO!!!!

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      Now from my eye witness Greg was conducting corporate prayer. He wasn’t aware he was getting ready to be shot. He didn’t see Min. Palmer as a threat. His position before the first shot was his eyes were closed and he was praying with his hands stretched to God. Now if you saw a man walking up the isle with a gun, would you still be in the line of fire? I don’t think any of them saw the gun before it was too late.

    • ReadingIsFundamental

      I volunteer with the kids twice a week at my church and we all had to get government fingerprinted. The actual employees get FBI screened as well. If something comes back, they don’t kick you out of the church as a parishioner but, you can’t work or volunteer there for safety reasons.

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Morning everyone :waves: I have nothing for this story and for the post downstairs :tape: that is all :waves:

    • Diva

      Angiegirl says:

      @WUT and Naija, that just seem so wrong

      @Diva….
      Bottoms up
      Bottoms up, UP
      hey whats in yuh cup

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :shakebutt: (doing the butt)

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      :waves:
      Razzyyyyyyy :hahaha:

      @ Sandra…can we get a post on the crude remarks Sara Palin made about Prez Obama?

      With her sea hag lookin self.

      @ Milkayyy #19….They betta exhume the body like they do on the ID Channel. Dude even looks kinda “you goin to jail now!”

    • Diva

      ReadingIsFundamental says:

      I volunteer with the kids twice a week at my church and we all had to get government fingerprinted. The actual employees get FBI screened as well. If something comes back, they don’t kick you out of the church as a parishioner but, you can’t work or volunteer there for safety reasons.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :applause: Now your church is on top of things sounds like! :thumbsup:

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      GM errybodies! :waves:

    • Diva

      :wave: hey Jenie!

    • Diva

      Hey Fay Fay

    • NaijaGal

      Angiegirl says:

      Maybe I watch too many TV shows, but I thought even though u escape real jail for mental illness u spend the time u would have spent in jail in the mental institution…..is that not right?
      ========================
      you stay in the mental institution until you’re ‘cured’ and they feel you can function in society again…sad but true

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      & may this poor man RIP :(

    • gbellab

      I wonder if creflo and his 2 front teeth will monetarily take care of the man’s 2 children.

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      Hey Diva

    • Trendsetter

      Diva says:

      Daisy says:

      I have never eaten at Jimmy Johns

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      You ain’t missing much IMO!!!!

      ____________________

      me no likey jimmy johns

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      :buttshake: :buttshake:

      DIROOOO! we used to play that song out!

      “Hey sexah sexah!!”

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      NaijaGal says:

      you stay in the mental institution until you’re ‘cured’ and they feel you can function in society again…sad but true

      ____________________
      right Naij…
      And some folks are only “cured” as long as they take their psych meds as prescribed. But once they are no longer hospitialized (monitered)…they stop takin em and..well…all HELL breaks loose.
      Tragedy!

    • prynsexxx

      Sandra Rose says:

      Angiegirl says:
      Auntie how can u shoot someone and plea not criminally responsible?
      ________________
      because he was mentally ill, and still is
      ___________________

      AND HE WAS BRINGING THE WORD OF GOD TO FOLKS?????? :blink:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      :rofl: @Fay Fay’s gravie “dat hoe” :rofl:

    • Diva

      Bedazzled His Razzle says:

      DIROOOO! we used to play that song out!

      “Hey sexah sexah!!”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      That’s still the jammy JAM!

    • prynsexxx

      :offtopic: :warning:

      FROM THIS DAY FORWARD……THERE ARE EXACTLY TWO MONTHS UNTIL CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      :waves:
      FayFay (u are W.R.O.N.G. for that gravi!)
      JenEEE
      Pryn

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      mzwhang90210 says:

      NaijaGal says:

      you stay in the mental institution until you’re ‘cured’ and they feel you can function in society again…sad but true

      ____________________
      right Naij…
      And some folks are only “cured” as long as they take their psych meds as prescribed. But once they are no longer hospitialized (monitered)…they stop takin em and..well…all HELL breaks loose.
      Tragedy!
      —————
      Like with that bunk azz move The Number 23… :no:

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      @ diva It is but :shrug:

    • Diva

      Hey Prynn, Gotta get my Christmas list togetha!

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      Trendsetter says:

      Diva says:

      Daisy says:

      I have never eaten at Jimmy Johns

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      You ain’t missing much IMO!!!!

      ____________________

      me no likey jimmy johns

      ————————-
      I only like their tuna on their multigrain bread. I hate their rolls.. nayesty

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      Oh almost forgot! @Trend I tried putting up the picture of the doll with it’s boobies showing but the cropping portion cut it off as i tried to keep the words in :lol: It would have went well with the words :D

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      I only like their tuna on their multigrain bread. I hate their rolls.. nayesty

      ————–
      speaking of nayesty… :think: oh neh-mind :tape:

    • Diva

      @Wut…you got me scratching my head!! :rofl: @It is but

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      Razzle & MzWhang :lol: what da prollum ill? :coffee:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      @Fay you no likey Kimmy K?? :lol:

      Have y’all heard this song “Sweet As Whole” by Sara Bareilles

      this song goes so hard I’m gonna look the lyrics up and post them!

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      @FayFay…I was tawkin bout that gravi with those freeway lane spaces betwix the cornrows!! It’s changed now…but u wuz WRONG fo dat!!

    • Bootcampgirl

      Mental Institutions are nothing but wherehouses. They keep the clients/inmates so doped up on meds, easier to deal with..

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      Sometimes I can be perfectly sweet
      Got the sugary me all stuffed up in my sleeve
      And I’ll talk of ponies and rainbows and things
      And I’m just who you want me to be
      Like most creatures down here on the ground
      I’m composed of the elements moving around
      But I grow and change and I shift and I switch
      And it turns out I’m actually kind of a bytch
      But that only happens when I get provoked
      By some piece of shyt azzhole we all sadly know
      And I sit and I write while reminding you all
      That mean songs are still better than going postal

      That guy’s an azzhole
      And that girl’s a bytch
      Baby it’s natural
      No getting away from it
      So sing it out with me
      And then let it go
      Fck that guy he’s just an azzhole

      And so I surprised you with some of my words
      And I know that surprises, while fine, still can hurt
      Whatever. I hate to think I have ruined the day
      You’re the dack and the queen of the high horse parade
      But I’m sick and tired of your poisonous ways
      You’re a toxin wasting perfectly good space
      And I say what I think
      ‘Cause it’s more economic than drugs or a drink

      That guy’s an azzhole
      And that girl’s a bytch
      Baby it’s natural
      No getting away from it
      So sing it out with me
      And then let it go
      Fck that guy he’s just an azzhole

      And I won’t let him in
      Under my skin
      He’s a sad sack of shyt
      It’s pathetic
      Just a festering sore
      That will never be more than that
      If I don’t let him

      That guy’s an azzhole
      And that girl’s a bytch
      Baby it’s natural
      No getting away from it
      So sing it out with me
      And then let it go
      Fck that guy he’s just an azzhole

    • Bootcampgirl

      @Razzle, that song is EXACTLY

    • Bootcampgirl

      Dammit, as I was saying, that song is EXACTLY

    • Bootcampgirl

      Dammit, as I was saying, that song is EXACTLY

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Wang hi hunny >>>>>>> :waves: <<<– the dog's wig :D

    • Bootcampgirl

      :cuss: fck it!!!

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Diva :hug:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      :lol: @boot what were you tryin to say?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcWvL-LZO08 AWESOME

      Folks without criminal history commit crimes all the time. :shrug:

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      Jen-Nay! :waves:
      Razzle hail nawl! :no:
      MzWhang :nono: whoeva BRAIDED that chit was wrong fa dat! :yes:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      :hahaha: and how does @Man feel about this? :lol:

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      AWESOME says:

      Folks without criminal history commit crimes all the time.

      true! :coffee:

      sup bew?

    • Bootcampgirl

      @Razzle I was tryyyyinnng (to hard evidently) to say, that song is EXACTLY how I’m feeling right now, might have to check that out…

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      :hahaha: @fayfay and how does @Man feel about this :lol:

      I swear this site likes deleting fonts and chit.

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      Razzle :rofl: Man will deal :yes:

      i done changed it anyway :coffee:

    • Bootcampgirl

      (AP)- A Delaware woman who pleaded guilty but mentally ill in a 1999 murder case is asking the state Board of Pardons to commute her life sentence.

      Adrianne R. Young planned to represent herself without a lawyer at Thursday’s hearing.

      Young was charged in the murder of William J. McGinley. According to court records, she went to McGinley’s house armed with a gun, knowing he wanted to have sex with her and intending to rob him.

      After the jury in the case announced that it was hopelessly deadlocked, a judge preparing for a second trial concluded that Young was suffering from clinical depression and allowed her to plead guilty but mentally ill. In exchange, prosecutors withdrew a petition for the death penalty.
      _____________________
      This ^^^^^^ is what should have happened to dude up top the first time and than there probably wouldn’t have been a 2nd time…

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      so who else is side-eying their yt friends for their romney support? :coffee:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      @Boot only when provoked! lol

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcWvL-LZO08 AWESOME

      :hug: @Fay I think the whip may have met it’s match in that dude’s scalp.

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      @fay Yes I see! :rofl:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      so who else is side-eying their yt friends for their romney support?
      ————————
      :hahaha:

    • Bootcampgirl

      @Razzle, a chick was definetly provoked last night…and I had liquor in me too :no:

    • lovezoe

      Fayfay- my friend (alabaster) husband LOVES Romney and she love Obama. My FB friends (alabaster) that love Romney. The stuff they post give me the runs. As a woman, how can one support Romney?

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      ZOE :heart: that’s exactly what i’m saying sug. ESP my FB friends. i put a post up one time asking WHO exactly conservatives were referring to when they say “let’s take america back” i’m like when did it get kidnapped & who’s got it now? :shrug:

      2 responded. one is a good friend & is a repub BUT is supporting :obama:
      the other just gave some generic ass answer :rollseyes: & didnt get into the REAL questions i was asking…

      AWESOME :rofl: i said the SAME damn thing when i saw that pic yo!

    • Bootcampgirl

      Did anyone watch Half-ton killer last night on TLC???

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      Boot :no: what’s that about?

      i was catching up on “Are We There Yet” episodes :love: THAT show cracks me the hell UP!

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      all this evil ass halloween candy is fuggin wit my weigh-loss tho :mad: :cuss:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxBGzUhT-TM&feature=bf_prev&list=PL20B5C9C348CC3E79 @NikkeMinxx

      :offtopic: and random as hayul…

      Opening scene of The Wire, Season 4 with Snoop buying the nail gun never gets old….

      :yahoo: Goodmorning all folks!

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      :newpost: is up. Celebs out & about

    • http://www.philly.com/ J Said it!

      The demons are loose!.. Stay covered my people! The enemy comes in all diguises even through your family and friends!!!

    • http://www.philly.com/ J Said it!

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      AWESOME says:

      Folks without criminal history commit crimes all the time.

      true!

      sup bew?

      ~~~~
      RIGHTTTTTTT they just never got caught…. until the shiiiiiit hits the fan

    • tintin1979

      This story is really sad.

      @Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      Boot :no: what’s that about?

      i was catching up on “Are We There Yet” episodes :love: THAT show cracks me the hell UP!

      —————————————————

      Are we there yet is funny, i don’t know why people online say it’s not. it’s a really good show. I have over 30 episodes to get through.

    • MrsWallace2U

      LORD please help us all! :crying: